And you say MTV suck now...
Greylock
I thought some people here might get a kick, and it would remind us how crap
the 80s were.
. -> THE MTV TOP 100 VIDEOS FOR THE YEAR OF 1985 <-
.
They are set up in this format :
#xxx-> Name of Group / "title of song" / name of album it's on
#100-> Godley & Creme / "Cry" / The History Mix, Volume I
# 99-> Katrina And The Waves / "Walking On Sunshine" / Katrina And The Waves
# 98-> Eddie Murphy / "Party All The Time" / How Could It Be
# 97-> INXS / "This Time" / Listen Like Theives
# 96-> The Motels / "Shame" / Shock
# 95-> John Fogerty / "Rock And Roll Girls" / Centerfield
# 94-> David Bowie/Pat Methany / "This Is Not America" / FALCON & THE SNOWMAN
# 93-> Arcadia / "Election Day" / So Red The Rose
# 92-> Mike & the Mechanics / "Silent Running" / Mike & The Mechanics
# 91-> Madonna / "Like A Virgin" / Like A Virgin
# 90-> Lionel Richie / "Say You Say Me" / Soundtrack: WHITE NIGHTS
# 89-> Wham! / "Freedom" / Make It Big
# 88-> Daryl Hall & John Oates / "The Method Of Modern Love" / Big Bam Boom
# 87-> Animotion / "Obsession" / Animotion
# 86-> Survivor / "The Search Is Over" / Vital Signs
# 85-> Stevie Wonder / "Part-Time Lover" / In Square Circle
# 84-> Madonna / "Dress You Up" / Like A Virgin
# 83-> Mick Jagger / "Lucky In Love" / She's The Boss
# 82-> Michael McDonald / "No Lookin' Back" / No Lookin' Back
# 81-> The Power Station / "Some Like It Hot" / The Power Station
# 80-> Jeff Beck/Rod Stewart / "People Get Ready" / Flash
# 79-> Teena Marie / "Lovergirl" / Starchild
# 78-> The Pointer Sisters / "Neutron Dance" / Soundtrack: BEVERLY HILLS COP
# 77-> Sade / "Smooth Operator" / Diamond Life
# 76-> Chicago / "You're The Inspiration" / Chicago 17
# 75-> Chicago / "Along Comes A Woman" / Chicago 17
# 74-> Foreigner / "That Was Yesterday" / Agent Provocateur
# 73-> Harold Faltermeyer / "Axel F" / Soundtrack: BEVERLY HILLS COP
# 72-> 'til tuesday / "Voices Carry" / Voices Carry
# 71-> Aretha Franklin / "Freeway Of Love" / Who's Zoomin' Who?
# 70-> The Hooters / "And We Danced" / Nervous Night
# 69-> Heart / "What About Love" / Heart
# 68-> Murray Head / "One Night In Bangkok" / Chess
# 67-> Ready For The World / "Oh Sheila" / Ready For The World
# 66-> The Cars / "Tonight She Comes" / The Cars Greatest Hits
# 65-> Don Henley / "The Boys Of Summer" / Building The Perfect Beast
# 64-> DeBarge / "Rhythm Of The Night" / Rhythm Of The Night
# 63-> Billy Ocean / "Loverboy" / Suddenly
# 62-> Roger Daltry / "After The Fire" / Under A Raging Moon
# 61-> Rush / "Big Money" / Power Windows
# 60-> Pete Townshend / "Face to Face" / White City
# 59-> Howard Jones / "Things Can Only Get Better" / Dream Into Action
# 58-> Tina Turner / "We Don't Need Another Hero" / Soundtrack: MAD MAX III
# 57-> Pat Benatar / "Invincible" / Theme Song For THE LEGEND OF BILLIE JEAN
# 56-> Prince & The Revolution / "Raspbery Beret" / Around The World In A Day
# 55-> Supertramp / "Cannonball" / Brother Where You Bound
# 54-> Madonna / "Material Girl" / Like A Virgin
# 53-> John Cafferty & Beaver Brown Band / "Tough All Over" / Tough All Over
# 52-> Phillip Bailey & Phil Collins / "Easy Lover" / Chinese Wall
# 51-> Bryan Adams / "Heaven" / Reckless
# 50-> Julian Lennon / "Too Late For Goodbyes" / Valotte
# 49-> Bruce Springsteen / "I'm On Fire" / Born In The U.S.A.
# 48-> Duran Duran / "A View To A Kill" / Soundtrack: A VIEW TO A KILL
# 47-> Loverboy / "Lovin' Every Minute Of It" / "Lovin' Every Minute Of It"
# 46-> David Bowie/Mick Jagger / "Dancing In The Street" / -NOT RELEASED-
# 45-> Thompson Twins / "Lay Your Hands On Me" / Here's To Future Days
# 44-> Phil Collins/Marylin Martin / "Separate Lives" / Soundtrack: WHITE NIGH
# 43-> Bruce Springsteen / "Glory Days" / Born In The U.S.A.
# 42-> Paul Young / "Everytime You Go Away" / The Secret Of Association
# 41-> Wham! / "Everything She Wants" / Make It Big
# 40-> a-ha / "Take On Me" / Hunting High And Low
# 39-> Bryan Adams / "Somebody" / Reckless
# 38-> Bryan Adams / "Summer Of '69" / Reckless
# 37-> U.S.A. For Africa / "We Are The World" / U.S.A. For Africa
# 36-> Phil Collins / "Don't Lose My Number" / No Jacket Required
# 35-> Corey Hart / "Never Surrender" / Boy In The Box
# 34-> Tears For Fears / "Head Over Heels" / Songs From The Big Chair
# 33-> John Fogerty / "The Old Man Down The Road" / Centerfield
# 32-> The Firm / "Radioactive" / The Firm
# 31-> Foreigner / "I Want To Know What Love Is" / Agent Provocateur
# 30-> Eric Clapton / "Forever Man" / Behind The Sun
# 29-> Wham! / "Careless Whisper" / Make It Big
# 28-> Robert Plant / "Little By Little" / Shaken 'N Stirred
# 27-> Madonna / "Crazy For You" / Soundtrack: VISION QUEST
# 26-> ZZ Top / "Sleeping Bag" / Afterburner
# 25-> Glenn Frey / "The Heat Is On" / Soundtrack: BEVERLY HILLS COP
# 24-> Night Ranger / "Sentimental Street" / 7 Wishes
# 23-> Don Henley / "All She Wants To Do Is Dance" / Building The Perfect
Beast
# 22-> David Lee Roth / "California Girls" / Crazy From The Heat
# 21-> John Cougar Mellencamp / "Small Town" / Scarecrow
# 20-> Huey Lewis & The News / "Power Of Love" / Soundtrack: BACK TO THE
FUTURE
# 19-> Tom Petty/Heart Breakers / "Don't Come Around Here" / Southern Accents
# 18-> Heart / "Never" / Heart
# 17-> Glenn Frey / "You belong To The City" / Soundtrack: MIAMI VICE
# 16-> Simple Minds / "Alive And Kicking" / Once Upon A Time
# 15-> Phil Collins / "Sussudio" / No Jacket Required
# 14-> Phil Collins / "One More Night" / No Jacket Required
# 13-> Eurythmics / "Would I Lie To You?" / Be Yourself Tonight
# 12-> Mick Jagger / "Just Another Night" / She's The Boss
# 11-> Tears For Fears / "Shout" / Songs From The Big Chair
# 10-> REO Speedwagon / "I Can't Fight This Feeling" / Wheels Are Turning
# 9-> Sting / "Fortress Around Your Heart" / Dream Of The Blue Turtles
# 8-> Sting / "If You Love Someone Set Them Free" / Dream Of The Blue Turtles
# 7-> Tears For Fears / "Everybody Wants.The World" / Songs From The Big
Chair
# 6-> John Parr / "St. Elmo's Fire" / Soundtrack: St. Elmo's Fire
# 5-> Simple Minds / "Don't You (Forget About Me)" / Soundtrack:Breakfast
Club
# 4-> John Cougar Mellencamp / "Lonely Ol' Night" / Scarecrow
# 3-> Mr. Mister / "Broken Wings" / Welcome To The Real World
# 2-> Starship / "We Built This City" / Knee Deep In The Hoopla
# 1-> Dire Straits / "Money For Nothing" / Brothers In Arms
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XloreleiX
>I thought some people here might get a kick, and it would remind us how crap
>the 80s were.
Actually, I liked about 2/3 of those songs at the time, but to be fair, I was
in 6th grade ("The Durannie Years")...and I hadn't developed good taste yet...
(snip)
>#100-> Godley & Creme / "Cry" / The History Mix, Volume I
Who the hell is this? I knew everything else on that list, but this one's a
mystery...
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Deviancy
>H*ydn wrote:
>
>I thought some people here might get a
kick, and it would remind us how crap
>the 80s were.
>
Heh the 80's was when the music scene
was at it's best, at least for the
mainstream. Three local LA radio
stations are now doing 80's lunch
specials every day of the week. Kroq,
Y107 and Starr both start around 12 and
they all play stuff from Duran Duran to
Cyndi Lauper. What I'm trying to say is
that's the music that people liked alot
otherwise these stations wouldn't be
throwing it out. Mtv was actually about
music back then, it's a shame they lost
it and became the total crap channel
that they are now.
Diony...@hotmail.com
> >#100-> Godley & Creme / "Cry" / The History Mix, Volume I
>
> Who the hell is this? I knew everything else on that list, but this one's a
> mystery...
one hit wonder... kevin godley and lol creme from 10cc. the video for "cry"
used early morphing of faces... kevin and lol went on to direct many videos,
including Go West's _We Close Our Eyes_ and most recently _The Sweetest
Thing_ by U2 (iirc it was just kevin that directed _TST_)... great song
imnsho :)
You don't know how to ease my pain
You don't know
You don't know how to ease my pain
You don't know what the sound is darlin'
It's the sound of my tears falling
Or is it the rain?
You don't know
You don't know how to play the game
And you cheat and you lie
You make me want to cry....
You don't know how to ease my pain
You don't know
You don't know how to ease my pain
Don't you hear any voices crying?
That's the sound of my love dying
Here comes the rain
You don't know how to play the game
And you cheat and you lie
You don't even know how to say goodbye
[etc.]
di
happiest girl i ever knew
why do you smile the smile you do?
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klaatu
>
> I found this at www.textfiles.com, which is quite the interesting site.
>
> I thought some people here might get a kick, and it would remind us how crap
> the 80s were.
AiEEE! I'm actually going to leave in the ones that were not too bad or
tolerable at least, and remark as required.
>
> . -> THE MTV TOP 100 VIDEOS FOR THE YEAR OF 1985 <-
> .
>
> They are set up in this format :
> #xxx-> Name of Group / "title of song" / name of album it's on
>
> # 97-> INXS / "This Time" / Listen Like Theives
> # 96-> The Motels / "Shame" / Shock
These could be dealt with.
> # 94-> David Bowie/Pat Methany / "This Is Not America" / FALCON & THE SNOWMAN
> # 93-> Arcadia / "Election Day" / So Red The Rose
> # 92-> Mike & the Mechanics / "Silent Running" / Mike & The Mechanics
> # 91-> Madonna / "Like A Virgin" / Like A Virgin
So sue me, Madonna was tolerable, Arcadia had a GAF video IIRC, "Silent
Running" I occasionally hear and actually remember and like the words (see
sig) - and I still have the impression from the video that this was supposed
to be a soundtrack from a never-released film version of L'Engle's _A Wrinkle
In Time_ - and what's _not_ to like about a Metheny/Bowie collaboration?
> # 87-> Animotion / "Obsession" / Animotion
Definitely "so sue me" on this one - the full-length version was not bad at
all the first few times you heard it.
> # 84-> Madonna / "Dress You Up" / Like A Virgin
Bite me if you must - but I actually happened to really like Madonna in this
period, despite my best efforts to not like her.
> # 81-> The Power Station / "Some Like It Hot" / The Power Station
I never did figure out what exactly was _up_ with Power Station. But this song
wasn't too bad, compared to whatever else was playing.
> # 71-> Aretha Franklin / "Freeway Of Love" / Who's Zoomin' Who?
Who can possibly diss Aretha Franklin?
> # 70-> The Hooters / "And We Danced" / Nervous Night
The Hooters were not bad at all IMHO. Did "all you zombies" which I thought
rocked.
> # 57-> Pat Benatar / "Invincible" / Theme Song For THE LEGEND OF BILLIE JEAN
> # 56-> Prince & The Revolution / "Raspbery Beret" / Around The World In A Day
Sorry. I have _always_ loved Pat Benatar, she might not be exactly GAF but I
don't really care. And I also happen to think that Prince & the Revolution
definitely pushed the envelope just all out of shape.
> # 54-> Madonna / "Material Girl" / Like A Virgin
Once again, sorry, best sarcasm on the radio in that particular year...
> # 48-> Duran Duran / "A View To A Kill" / Soundtrack: A VIEW TO A KILL
> # 47-> Loverboy / "Lovin' Every Minute Of It" / "Lovin' Every Minute Of It"
> # 46-> David Bowie/Mick Jagger / "Dancing In The Street" / -NOT RELEASED-
I'm showing my age for sure here. Duran Duran was annoying the crap out of me
in those days, I wanted more stuff like "Careless Memory" and what I got was
cheerful poppy stuff. Also, how can anyone not like Bowie and Jagger prancing
around with each other as fashion plates in the video? And I have an
excessively-pathetic weakness for old Loverboy.
> # 45-> Thompson Twins / "Lay Your Hands On Me" / Here's To Future Days
> # 40-> a-ha / "Take On Me" / Hunting High And Low
Nothing need be said.
> # 31-> Foreigner / "I Want To Know What Love Is" / Agent Provocateur
Foreigner, which had thrown down the hard-rock gauntlet in maybe 1977 and had
done a fine job of it, somehow drifted into tearful ballads. It was so
astounding that I actually liked them better that way.
> # 19-> Tom Petty/Heart Breakers / "Don't Come Around Here" / Southern Accents
Even more of the mopey master of southern rock.
> # 16-> Simple Minds / "Alive And Kicking" / Once Upon A Time
> # 13-> Eurythmics / "Would I Lie To You?" / Be Yourself Tonight
Need I say more?
> # 11-> Tears For Fears / "Shout" / Songs From The Big Chair
> # 9-> Sting / "Fortress Around Your Heart" / Dream Of The Blue Turtles
> # 8-> Sting / "If You Love Someone Set Them Free" / Dream Of The Blue Turtles
> # 7-> Tears For Fears / "Everybody Wants.The World" / Songs From The Big
> # 3-> Mr. Mister / "Broken Wings" / Welcome To The Real World
Considering what was being broadcast at the time, I don't think anyone can
really fault me for my tastes... though doubtless someone will.
>
> ------
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Pollex Xi
Damocles44@hotm*il.gov wrote:
> I found this at www.textfiles.com, which is quite the interesting site.
>
> I thought some people here might get a kick, and it would remind us how crap
> the 80s were.
>
> . -> THE MTV TOP 100 VIDEOS FOR THE YEAR OF 1985 <-
8<SNIP>8
Sad thing is... I actually like about one out of four songs on that list...
I've got at least five on tape or cd.
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Kali Nichta
>
> H*ydn wrote:
> Actually, I liked about 2/3 of those songs at the time, but to be fair, I was
> in 6th grade ("The Durannie Years")...and I hadn't developed good taste yet...
>
> (snip)
> >#100-> Godley & Creme / "Cry" / The History Mix, Volume I
>
> Who the hell is this? I knew everything else on that list, but this one's a
> mystery...
And you claim the title of Durannie!? Bah, I say! Godley and Creme
were the duo who directed the "A View To A Kill" video.
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Marjorie Peck
Pollex Xi wrote:
> In article <36e3893e...@news.albany.agn.net.au>,
> Damocles44@hotm*il.gov wrote:
> > I found this at www.textfiles.com, which is quite the interesting site.
> >
> > I thought some people here might get a kick, and it would remind us how crap
> > the 80s were.
> >
> > . -> THE MTV TOP 100 VIDEOS FOR THE YEAR OF 1985 <-
I like a lot of these songs. The radio station I listen to plays some of them. And
since seeing Chess some years ago I've been vaguely wondering who sang One Night
in Bankok. So, Thanks. :-)
-Marjorie, 80's cheese music buff
Morgaborg
clubs. The underground scence was very cool back then.
----------
In article <19990223063136...@ng-fr1.aol.com>,
xlor...@aol.combatrock (XloreleiX) wrote:
>
>>I thought some people here might get a kick, and it would remind us how crap
>>the 80s were.
>
klaatu
>
> You poor things just thought it sucked because you were too young to go to
> clubs. The underground scence was very cool back then.
>
Damn right it was. Sucks today if you ask me. Of course I was feeling the same
way about the rock'n'roll scene right before disco and [finally thank goth]
punk arrived. But from about 1980-1985, shit was happening. I suggest that
modern music is presently in the exact same sort of creative doldrums. What we
really need is to have some serious "name acts" write up their magnum opus and
then have the decency to go expire to give some new blood a chance.
oddlystrange
> I found this at www.textfiles.com, which is quite the interesting site.
>
> I thought some people here might get a kick, and it would remind us how crap
> the 80s were.
I hate to admit this, but I own a lot of that stuff. I am hunting for most
of the rest of it.
I am not looking for ElDebarge though.
oddlystrange
(who's been a on a huge most own every song I liked in the 80s kick. I
bought Def Lappards greatest hits today, and about 10 minutes into it was
reminded why I sold my Pyromania LP many moons ago)
OH my god Axel Foley is on Vh-1!!!
Titles: godmother of perkygoff, queen of alt.gothic,
_Requisite Homepage URL: <http://www.obscure.org/~perky>_
QUOTE: "10. Apr 95 8:11 well, I'm impressed. oddlystrange
<mac...@cabell.vcu.edu> using Mozilla/0.96 beta (Macintosh)"
oddlystrange
<mor...@darkers.com> wrote:
> You poor things
learn to follow up properly.
And just so you know I'm the bastion of conceited age-ism here.
oddlystrange
(who tells you to back down before out lash you with wet conceitness)
oddlystrange
<luna...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Mtv was actually about
> music back then, it's a shame they lost
> it and became the total crap channel
> that they are now.
I want my Much Music.
oddlystrange
(who credits Much for having an entire "gothic" block in their 80s weekend
-- and the gothic block *was* gothic -- like Sisters of Mercy and Bauhaus
and stuff)
Jay
>
>I want my Much Music.
>
>oddlystrange
>
>(who credits Much for having an entire "gothic" block in their 80s weekend
>-- and the gothic block *was* gothic -- like Sisters of Mercy and Bauhaus
>and stuff)
Yeah I miss thier city limits on sundays they used to play some really good
stuff SOM etc.
Albatross
klaatu wrote:
> Damn right it was. Sucks today if you ask me.
Yup.
And more than anything, that list showed the pathetic situation of
popular music right now.
> Of course I was feeling the same
> way about the rock'n'roll scene right before disco and [finally thank goth]
> punk arrived. But from about 1980-1985, shit was happening.
It didn't hurt that I was young.
> I suggest that
> modern music is presently in the exact same sort of creative doldrums. What we
> really need is to have some serious "name acts" write up their magnum opus and
> then have the decency to go expire to give some new blood a chance.
What can be new?
I think part of the problem is that we are so self-conscious, that the
only way we allow ourselves to appreciate anything is as some sort of
cultural experience. We have been made so aware of the cultural
connotations of everything we do. In this atmosphere, what the artist
really needs more than anything, namely his/her individual honesty, is
preempted by the assumption that we cannot speak for ourselves but only
for our race/economic situation/sexuality/time etc. The artist, having
been deprived of his/her voice, is left to pirate other peoples voices;
and we get pale politicking and sundry retros.
A
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Sleepycat
>
> > >#100-> Godley & Creme / "Cry" / The History Mix, Volume I
> >
> > mystery...
They actually had quite a long and silly career, at least half a dozen
albums, although they are probably not still going now (last release
"Goodbye Blue Sky", circa 1990?).
Eclectic, elliptical, zany, funny and above all, nerdy.
Genre-wise, 70s pop-rock with prog-rocky silly noises and vocoders.
Selected lyrical highlights:
"Snack Attack": A several-minutes-long rap song (in 1981!) about a guy who
has his jaws wired together and is lying on his back in a hospital bed
dreaming of food.
"The Party": "You're a cocksucker, Michael" <different voice> "You are
what you eat, daaaaaaeeeeee-vvvviiiiiddddd".
"Freeze Frame": "Going up like a surgeon chasing a gash, going down like
United in the Munich air crash ..."
"I Pity Inanimate Objects": "Is the gold in Fort Knox happy gold? I worry
about these things."
"An Englishman in New York": "Disturbing facts about Nazi splinter groups
seen on the news / They're picketing synagogues and claiming that Hitler
was King of the Jews."
They also did some very drippy MOR stuff, so sample with extreme care.
Best albums are "Freeze Frame" and "Ismism" both of which you should
consider yourself ripped off to pay more than $2 for.
Don't ask me how I know about this shit.
I once had a very strange friend ...
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Gothae Obscurum
>
> oddlystrange
>
> (who's been a on a huge most own every song I liked in the 80s kick. I
> bought Def Lappards greatest hits today, and about 10 minutes into it was
> reminded why I sold my Pyromania LP many moons ago)
LOL!
I bought a CD at the weekend called Relax! The Ultimate 80's Mix: Volume
Two.
Sounds cheesy, I know, but if I were to put together a compilation of
eighties tunes, it would have come out like this.
Examples:
Duran Duran: Planet Earth
Re-Flex: The Politics Of Dancing
Split Enz: I Got You
Associates: Club Country
Soft Cell: Bedsitter *and* Torch (my two fave Soft Cell songs)
Echo & The Bunnymen: The Back of Love (from which The Mission stole the
bass line for Wasteland)
The Teardrop Explodes: Reward
Visage: Fade To Grey
Blancmange: Blind Vision
+ many more ;)
Cheers
Paul.
(very pleased)
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justin gregory case
Damoc...@hotmail.gov wrote:
> I found this at www.textfiles.com, which is quite the interesting site.
>
> I thought some people here might get a kick, and it would remind us how crap
> the 80s were.
I woke up feeling kind of elderly, today. This didn't help.[1]
Bad thing about this is that--at one point or another--I've owned just
about every song--in one form or another (may the Powers That Be bless
dual-deck detachable-speaker jambox mix tapes)--on this list. I am
slowly rebuilding the collection. Say what you will about Wal-Mart, you
can find some absolute treasures in the CD compilation bins there.
--justin g.
[1] Actually, this is a lie. I grinned. I twirled a finger and hummed
a few bars. Now, though, I've an ENTIRE DAMNED DECADE stuck in my head.
*Again.*
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David Gerard
:H*ydn wrote:
:>#100-> Godley & Creme / "Cry" / The History Mix, Volume I
:Who the hell is this? I knew everything else on that list, but this one's a
:mystery...
Kevin Godley and Lol Creme, who started with 10cc and then did rekerds as
Godley & Creme and then did rekerds as Wax. Same guys, same music, different
band names.
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XloreleiX
>And you claim the title of Durannie!? Bah, I say! Godley and Creme
>were the duo who directed the "A View To A Kill" video.
Well, I admit I wasn't a very good Durannie. Mostly I listened to them because
my friends all did (we had a club for awhile in 5th or 6th grade--don't
laugh!!--the "We Love Simon And John" club). They were pretty enough, but once
I found Depeche Mode, that was it for D2.
"A View To A Kill" was a wonderful video, though. I'll have to investigate this
Godley and Creme further; can't bear to have gaps in my music knowledge...
~Lorelei~
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klaatu
>
> klaatu wrote:
>
> > Damn right it was. Sucks today if you ask me.
>
> Yup.
> And more than anything, that list showed the pathetic situation of
> popular music right now.
>
> > Of course I was feeling the same
> > way about the rock'n'roll scene right before disco and [finally thank goth]
> > punk arrived. But from about 1980-1985, shit was happening.
>
> It didn't hurt that I was young.
>
>
> > I suggest that
> > modern music is presently in the exact same sort of creative doldrums. What we
> > really need is to have some serious "name acts" write up their magnum opus and
> > then have the decency to go expire to give some new blood a chance.
>
> What can be new?
> I think part of the problem is that we are so self-conscious, that the
> only way we allow ourselves to appreciate anything is as some sort of
> cultural experience. We have been made so aware of the cultural
> connotations of everything we do. In this atmosphere, what the artist
> really needs more than anything, namely his/her individual honesty, is
> preempted by the assumption that we cannot speak for ourselves but only
> for our race/economic situation/sexuality/time etc. The artist, having
> been deprived of his/her voice, is left to pirate other peoples voices;
> and we get pale politicking and sundry retros.
Actually, you touched on something tangentially here which is probably at the
heart of the matter.
What's needed isn't more sophistry or goth-forbid baroque complexity, what's
needed is, however talentlessly done, honesty. I'd rather hear some
three-chord outrage over people starving in Somalia than the most contrived
and complex reinterpretations of "baby I love you but you're bad for me".
>
> A
klaatu
>
> On 23 Feb 1999 11:31:36 GMT, XloreleiX <xlor...@aol.combatrock> wrote:
> :H*ydn wrote:
>
> :>#100-> Godley & Creme / "Cry" / The History Mix, Volume I
>
> :Who the hell is this? I knew everything else on that list, but this one's a
> :mystery...
>
> Kevin Godley and Lol Creme, who started with 10cc and then did rekerds as
> Godley & Creme and then did rekerds as Wax. Same guys, same music, different
> band names.
Cripes. I wondered whatever happened to 10cc. Actually, they had some stuff
that was definitely ahead of their time, "I'm not in love" was definitely
pretty strange for 1980 or whenever it was.
>
> --
> http://thingy.apana.org.au/~fun/ http://xenu.netizen.com.au/
> "It's a sad, sad day when the only place you're likely to find anyone doing
> something out of principle anymore is among the criminally insane." (TSM)
--
chijin <chijin5
>
>I found this at www.textfiles.com, which is quite the interesting site.
>
>I thought some people here might get a kick, and it would remind us how crap
>the 80s were.
># 68-> Murray Head / "One Night In Bangkok" / Chess
Hey! I *lurved* that song.
Hmmm, but then, I *lurved* the 80's.
At least alternative(the pop type) had some liveliness to it, not like the
"modern rock" pablum we are being fed now.
I can't frigging wait for satellite radio. The local alternative radio
frequently has dj's that proclaim that Kurt Cobain "invented" alternative, and
their format reflects this, but then, this is Texas. If I hear a song which is
older than five years, I feel faint.
Just because something's old, doesn't mean it isn't still cutting edge.
*MTV* during the 80's however, sucked just like it has every decade.
Record-company-promo-front that they are.
Chijin<8P
**who notes that most of the songs on his Bauhaus compilation were released
during the 80's**
spini...@yahoo.co.nz
> What's needed isn't more sophistry or goth-forbid baroque complexity, what's
> needed is, however talentlessly done, honesty. I'd rather hear some
> three-chord outrage over people starving in Somalia than the most contrived
> and complex reinterpretations of "baby I love you but you're bad for me".
Let me take this opportinuty to remind people that the new Midnight Oil
Cd, 'Redneck Wonderland', is on sale now everywhere.
I think it has what you're looking for re: honesty.
Plus, those three chords.
C-ko
.......................................................................
C-ko Linde ^..^ spini...@yahoo.co.nz
"ambition makes you look very ugly kicking squealing gucci little piggy
why don't you remember my name you runt?" paranoid android -- radiohead
spini...@yahoo.co.nz
> Hey! I *lurved* that song.
> Hmmm, but then, I *lurved* the 80's.
I want to do the '80's over again, but this time, in a large city with a
radio station that played all the dark creepy new wave by Duran Duran,
Planet P, and Talk Talk.
The stuff that no station in Madison, Wisconsin would touch. I recently
went to an '80's' night at a local club, and became mildly upset at the
amount of stuff I didn't recognise, and how I wished I heard it when I was
12 instead of now.
CVB
XloreleiX <xlor...@aol.combatrock> wrote in article
<19990223063136...@ng-fr1.aol.com>...
> (snip)
> >#100-> Godley & Creme / "Cry" / The History Mix, Volume I
>
> Who the hell is this? I knew everything else on that list, but this one's
a
> mystery...
> ~Lorelei~
> * * * * * * *
That song was used on an old episode of Miami Vice that featured (scary
music here)....Ted Nugent! Dear God! I know about this because my mom taped
that episode the other day on one of my tapes, without asking. But the song
isn't that bad.
--
CVB
"Out of the blue, into the black..."-Neil Young
cvb's page-
http://www.angelfire.com/wi/casears/
Death to Gother Than Thou's Webring-
http://www.angelfire.com/wi/casears/gtt.html
the Gruamach
mumbled:
>I want my Much Music.
>oddlystrange
>(who credits Much for having an entire "gothic" block in their 80s weekend
>-- and the gothic block *was* gothic -- like Sisters of Mercy and Bauhaus
>and stuff)
How do you think some of us discovered goth?
*sigh*
Charles/the Gruamach, http://home.stlnet.com/~gothcop
Alt.Gothic's own Garibaldi and expecting DaddyGoth
aka "Baron D'Gru, Sheriff of Gothingham, Holy Keeper of
Gothic Donuts, High Protector of Sarkygoff and King of AGP"
chijin <chijin5
>
>chijin <chijin5 <NOSPAM>> scrawled:
>
>> Hey! I *lurved* that song.
>> Hmmm, but then, I *lurved* the 80's.
>
>I want to do the '80's over again, but this time, in a large city with a
>radio station that played all the dark creepy new wave by Duran Duran,
>Planet P, and Talk Talk.
>
>The stuff that no station in Madison, Wisconsin would touch. I recently
>went to an '80's' night at a local club, and became mildly upset at the
>amount of stuff I didn't recognise, and how I wished I heard it when I was
>12 instead of now.
I heard it then(mainly off of KROQ in LA, which was a fairly good alt station),
but I find I enjoy it a little more now.
Back then I was a little distracted.
Raging hormones, don't you know.:)
Chijin<8P
**"There were ghosts in the eyes, of all the boys you sent away.**
**They haunt this dusty beach road in the skeleton frames**
**of burned out old chevrolets."(Thunder Road, B.Springsteen)**
Greylock
>
>How do you think some of us discovered goth?
>*sigh*
Underneath the cabbage patch?
You're of course forgetting there is no such thing as...
oh,
never mind.
------
H*ydn www.goth.org.au I'msopsuedosopsuedoI'm www.darkwave.org.uk/faq/ag
"Have I ever told you that you are very cute, for a minbari.
In an annoying sort way everybody's cute. Everybody's cute. Even me.
But, in purple, I am stunning." - Londo, Babylon 5
+++ If you don't dance at all then you are definitely mopey...+++
Greylock
>> needed is, however talentlessly done, honesty. I'd rather hear some
>> three-chord outrage over people starving in Somalia than the most contrived
>> and complex reinterpretations of "baby I love you but you're bad for me".
>
>Let me take this opportinuty to remind people that the new Midnight Oil
>Cd, 'Redneck Wonderland', is on sale now everywhere.
>I think it has what you're looking for re: honesty.
>Plus, those three chords.
C-Ko, I hate to mention this, but said CD has been available since waaaaay
before Christmas.
I'll never be one to doubt the honesty of Midnight Oil, since they've stuck
with the whole social-concionce thing after it ended its days as a fashionable
item (and may have had it long before, IIRC),
And I'll never doubt that Midnight Oil (though I may personally not "dig their
groove" can write a catchy song,
but that album is quite old.
And, if you're wandering about the title at all search www.yahoo.com.au -
australia only - for Pauline AND Hanson AND One AND Nation.
And be pleased *her* empire is crumbling faster than a crumb cake.
Greylock
So there.
Nyaa-nyaa!
On Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:23:02 -0500, pe...@obscure.org (oddlystrange) did sigh:
>Damocles44@hotm*il.gov wrote:
>> I thought some people here might get a kick, and it would remind us how crap
>> the 80s were.
>
>I hate to admit this, but I own a lot of that stuff. I am hunting for most
>of the rest of it.
We are the same age.
Almost exactly,
and I found the majority of those songs to be both bland and forgettable.
And I live *in* the 80s seven times in ten. My vinyl collection (shut-up erik)
is testament to that.
And I will elaborate: I find most of the songs listed bland and uninspired.
Some I find cheesy, some I find quaintly retro, but most bland.
The 80s *best* music was that which was inspired, partly or wholly, by punk or
the punk ethic.
Greylock
>Back then I was a little distracted.
>Raging hormones, don't you know.:)
Please,
Do I know?
If there was some way I could survive my teens without the raging hormones, I
would.
I think.
All my hormones channeled into angst.
And christ, has that screwed me over.
Look at where I ended up - with an electronic social life.
Cool people,
but my friends are electric.
spini...@yahoo.co.nz
> C-Ko, I hate to mention this, but said CD has been available since waaaaay
> before Christmas.
Yeah, I know - but it only came out here in the US a couple of months
ago.
Plus, it's still a good CD, regardless of age.
Thanks for the Hanson tip - I'll look it up.
C-ko, going to listen to some 20+ year old Joy Division now....
spini...@yahoo.co.nz
> I heard it then(mainly off of KROQ in LA, which was a fairly good alt station),
> but I find I enjoy it a little more now.
> Back then I was a little distracted.
> Raging hormones, don't you know.:)
I understand completely.
But I still thing it would have been infinitely more pleasureable to have
been making out to Depeche Mode then Creedence Clearwater Revival or
Michael Jackson.
C-ko
+ren+
> # 1-> Dire Straits / "Money For Nothing" / Brothers In Arms
"I want my MTV! Get my money for nothin' and my chicks for free."
;)
+ren+
the entire music industry is now geared towards 13 year old girls.
They won't even play the two videos I like. That new Garbage one and that Orgy "Blue
Monday" one. Wat up wit dat G?
oddlystrange
Damocles44@hotm*il.gov wrote:
> And I will elaborate: I find most of the songs listed bland and uninspired.
> Some I find cheesy, some I find quaintly retro, but most bland.
You see I like them. Not becase theyre good, even because their quality
retro, but because they're
modern kitsch. Some people have the one mohair rug or something, I have a
collection
of really *bad* music from the 80s. Its only complimented by the fact I
also have a decent collection
of *good* music from tha 80s.
Most of the bad music makes it as the one occassional "wht the *fuck*"
track on a mix tape.
oddlystrange
(who has nothing kitchy decorating her house, at least I think so)
Panurge
In article <36D4102B...@clark.net>, kla...@clark.net wrote:
> Albatross wrote:
> > I think part of the problem is that we are so self-conscious, that the
> > only way we allow ourselves to appreciate anything is as some sort of
> > cultural experience....
I use the term "Complete Cultural Package." Is this what you're talking about?
> > In this atmosphere, what the artist
> > really needs more than anything, namely his/her individual honesty, is
> > preempted by the assumption that we cannot speak for ourselves but only
> > for our race/economic situation/sexuality/time etc.
The point that that voice is inevitably affected by those things is
legitimate. (What if Beethoven had been born in Asia? What if Howlin'
Wolf had come from Spain?) But _way_ too much has been made of it, and
it's been taken too far.
> What's needed isn't more sophistry or goth-forbid baroque complexity,
Though a scene without a place for "baroque complexity" is automatically
suspect IMNSHO.
> what's needed is, however talentlessly done, honesty.
Honesty is essential, yes. But it's no more a substitute for talent than
vice versa. If you ask me, what we need is people who _care_ about
_music_ enough to _learn_ about it, to find out what it can do--and then
to put that knowledge to work developing and nourishing their _muse_.
Following your muse--making the visions (auditions?) that blindside you at
the most unexpected moments into concrete realities--is the most honest
thing an artist can do.
Honesty is essential. Sensitivity is essential. The love of learning and
the willingness to expand one's resources as much as needed in order to
fashion a powerful, versatile, personal musical language that can express
your deepest creative impulses--these are essential, too. Otherwise,
you're selling yourself _and_your_audience_ short--and I've heard enough
of _that_ for one lifetime, thank you.
> I'd rather hear some
> three-chord outrage over people starving in Somalia than the most contrived
> and complex reinterpretations of "baby I love you but you're bad for me".
But these are _literary_, not _musical_, matters. Just because the
lyrical material addresses an honorable subject, that's not gonna make it
a tune I'm gonna want to hear. _Prima_la_musica,_poi_le_parole_.
--
"...[W]henever a musician's interested in self-expression you know it's
gonna suck." --Robert Fripp
(Translation: Be interested in _music_, and self-expression will come.)
Tetsab
> Soft Cell: Bedsitter *and* Torch (my two fave Soft Cell songs)
What do you know. Someone shares my favourite Soft Cell song, that being
Bedsitter. You're the first I've encountered.
And to go into some OBsubject: This list showed me that just because the
majority of the music I listen to came out of the eighties does not
mean it was popular then. (this seems to sound a bit more snotty that
it's meant to be :).
But I'm always amused to pick up one of the "hot hits" albums from the
80's (on vinyl) and find Lagartija nick right in the middle of stuff
like Shaken' Stevens and ABBA.
To commit a usenet sin are respond to something else now:
oddlystrange wrote:
> (who credits Much for having an entire "gothic" block in their 80s weekend
> -- and the gothic block *was* gothic -- like Sisters of Mercy and Bauhaus
> and stuff)
Yes. I certainly like Much more that what little I've seen of MTV (given
I live in Canada) but their gothic block may be due at least in a little
bit to the fact that one of their "VJ's" was alledgedly a goth in
highschool.
Bill Welychka whose favourite band is The Cure and was over the moon to
interview Bauhaus when they did their little revival being the VJ in
question.
Tetsab.
>^..^<
--
"Pink Floyd?! I died in five
punk wars against this stuff & http://members.xoom.com/Tetsab/
here are you kids embracing it!"
--David Gerard on the musical taste of young goths.
chijin <chijin5
says...:
<snips>
>Look at where I ended up - with an electronic social life.
>Cool people,
>but my friends are electric.
Which would answer the Gary Numan question!<g>
Chijin<8P
**who hears that song and thinks, "yes, about 15,000+ of them are."**
chijin <chijin5
>
>chijin <chijin5 <NOSPAM>> scrawled:
>
>>I heard it then(mainly off of KROQ in LA, which was a fairly good alt station),
>> but I find I enjoy it a little more now.
>> Back then I was a little distracted.
>> Raging hormones, don't you know.:)
>
>I understand completely.
>
>But I still thing it would have been infinitely more pleasureable to have
>been making out to Depeche Mode then Creedence Clearwater Revival
Who *could* make out to songs like "Born on the bayou"?
>or
>Michael Jackson.
I think I would listen to country*shudder* before I would listen to anything
sung by Elizabeth Taylor and the Vienna(Neverland adjunct) boys choir.
You have a point.
Chijin<8P
**who actually listens to CCR every oncet in awhile**
chijin <chijin5
>
>MTV is for 13 year old girls. After watching the Crappy's last night I believe
>that
>the entire music industry is now geared towards 13 year old girls.
Like anything's changed? Ever heard of "Tiger Beat"?
>They won't even play the two videos I like. That new Garbage one and that Orgy
>"Blue
>Monday" one. Wat up wit dat G?
Hey Boooiiiiyaaaa, don't be dissin' my Emma-Tee-Vee, or we'll bust you into a
chair and make you watch "Yo-yo-yo, MTV Raps!"(do they *actually* still play
that show?) with your eyeballs taped open and listening to that dead deaf
dude!;)
>
Chijin<8P
**who wonders where they *get* those gold chains**
Panurge
> Damocles44@hotm*il.gov wrote:
>
> > And I will elaborate: I find most of the songs listed bland and uninspired.
>
> You see I like them. Not becase theyre good, even because their quality
> retro, but because they're
> modern kitsch.
But considering the "new wave" heritage that most of the songs came from,
that's to be expected. When I _first_encountered_ that music, I had this
idea that I was supposed to take it as a sort of ironic kitsch from the
beginning, as if it were The Knack or Devo. No way could I take most of
it at face value. But that's probably due largely to the deleterious
influence of David Bowie (despite his modern status as He Who Must Not Be
Gainsaid).
Unknown
wrote:
>In article <36D5B649...@primenet.com>, +ren+ says...
>>
>>MTV is for 13 year old girls. After watching the Crappy's last night I believe
>>that
>>the entire music industry is now geared towards 13 year old girls.
You should have watched the Brits [1] instead.
David Bowie played 20th Century Boy (and looked & sounded amazing).
The Eurythmics closed the show.
All round a much better awards show.
>Like anything's changed? Ever heard of "Tiger Beat"?
It used to be 18 year old girls (back in the '50's).
The target age has just dropped a bit.
Looking at the Spice Girls audience, it seems to have dropped down to
about 6.
[1] Broadcast on Much Music at the same time as the Grammys.
--
Axel
Everything is true, even false things
- Malaclypse the Younger
<axel AT aracnet >dot< net>
Tetsab
> You should have watched the Brits [1] instead.
Yes. This was my background noise of choice for the two points below
actually:
> David Bowie played 20th Century Boy (and looked & sounded amazing).
> The Eurythmics closed the show.
And to the Eurythmics I say: Where the hell were the synths? I didn't
like what they did with the performance musically. I put on their 'best
of' afterwards to make up for it. (Yes. I'm rather sad like that).
> All round a much better awards show.
Except for Massive Attack not getting anything. Particularily when
compared to Robbie Williams.
> [1] Broadcast on Much Music at the same time as the Grammys.
But only for the Cantaydians. There was a note earlier when they were
advertising it that it would only be aired here.
Narnia
wrote:
>Look at where I ended up - with an electronic social life.
>Cool people,
>but my friends are electric.
And there's something wrong with this how? ;>
(Though I still insist *someday* we will all run our own country on
some dark island somewhere, complete with multiple T3's wired to every
building.)
=Narnia=
http://www.velvet.net
Metamorph
> In article <36D5B649...@primenet.com>, +ren+ says...
> >MTV is for 13 year old girls. After watching the Crappy's last night I believe
> >that the entire music industry is now geared towards 13 year old girls.
> Like anything's changed? Ever heard of "Tiger Beat"?
<snickers> Yes I have. *grins* Do you know how long it has been out
there? You could guess my age within 5 if I told you whose pictures
decorated my walls way back then.
> Chijin<8P
> **who wonders where they *get* those gold chains**
From Mr. T when the A-Team got cancelled?
Metamorph
ka...@ecn.ab.ca
: On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 14:59:10 GMT, Damoc...@hotmail.gov (Greylock)
: wrote:
: >Look at where I ended up - with an electronic social life.
: >Cool people,
: >but my friends are electric.
: And there's something wrong with this how? ;>
Cybersex is unsatisfying.
--
Glenn. (With the line "I want to feel electic" by Noise Therapy running
through his head.)
------
My illusions are shattered,
That I might build a new one from their pieces.
In chaos, all is possible.
justin gregory case
<chijin5<NOSPAM>@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Who *could* make out to songs like "Born on the bayou"?
"I can still hear my ol' houn' dog baw-kin', chasin' down a hoo-doo,
they-uh."
'Course, that's the only line I can remember off the top of my head.
> Chijin<8P
> **who actually listens to CCR every oncet in awhile**
Swamp rock *is* rawk, man. And I bet I could even draw a shaky line to
connect it to gawth, too. ;)
--justin g.
(yup. still no accountin' fer taste)
**********************************************************************
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shotgun blast. || The universe doesn't care.
--MH, "Davidian" || That part of the job is yours.
|| --Dave Gerrold
duchess rufus
<nar...@velvet.net> did whisper over hir favorite hot beverage
>On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 14:59:10 GMT, Damoc...@hotmail.gov (Greylock)
>wrote:
>
>>Look at where I ended up - with an electronic social life.
>>Cool people,
>>but my friends are electric.
>
>And there's something wrong with this how? ;>
Electric friends can't always be there when what you need to hear is
reassuring voices, and see familiar faces, and feel familiar hands.
In short, the computer can't give you a hug, or say, right, that does
it, coat on, we're going down the pub!
>
>(Though I still insist *someday* we will all run our own country on
>some dark island somewhere, complete with multiple T3's wired to every
>building.)
dark *planet*, I tell you.
Outer space is *ours*.
--
duchess rufus
spini...@yahoo.co.nz
> <spini...@yahoo.co.nz> wrote:
> And of course, since it was on MTV, it was obviously too mainstream for
> WORT.. (:
Some if it probably was on WORT <1>, but I just didn't know about it,
since I was 12 at the time, and WORT was the 'scary station my parents
listened to to hear the Oldies show' on. And, in the very early days of
MTV (like the first year or so), there was some innovative stuff on - I
just had no idea what it was. People like Captain Beefheart, people and
bands that I had no clue about. So, naturally, by the time I started to
get into the weird stuff, they yank it all away and replace it with
Michael Jackson and Bon Jovi.
<1> WORT is the 'community access' station in Madison, that plays
everything from reggae to industrial to Hmong folk singing. (which is
really neat, actually.)
Unknown
<Antisocia...@see-reply.com> wrote:
>Axel wrote:
>> All round a much better awards show.
>
>Except for Massive Attack not getting anything. Particularily when
>compared to Robbie Williams.
Award Shows rarely (if ever) award the best.
they are either based on popular choice (which means take That & their
kin) or the industries choice (which means Celine Dion and her kin).
All you can ask for is a couple of good performances.
And the Manic Street Preachers won stuff, so it wasn't completely
crap.
>> [1] Broadcast on Much Music at the same time as the Grammys.
>
>But only for the Cantaydians. There was a note earlier when they were
>advertising it that it would only be aired here.
Another advantage to living north of the border.
Narnia
>Cybersex is unsatisfying.
That may be true, but the sex when you meet in real life is
(hopefully) quite satisfying. ;>
=Narnia=
http://www.velvet.net