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Indrakshi

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Dec 8, 2000, 3:56:27 PM12/8/00
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I am having a problem wearing liquid make-up. My skin gets so dry
around my nose and chin area that my liquid make-up ends up looking flaky as
soon as I apply it.
I have tried drinking more water to hydrate my skin to no avail. Some
days I need to apply moisturizer up to 4 times. SInce I live in
Pennsylvania, and it is cold, the problem has become worse.
Has anyone had this problem and found a solution? Can anyone recommend
a moisturizer, liquid make-up, or any other product that may help?

-Indrakshi
(who just wants to be able to wear liquid make-up!)


diana cascioli

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Dec 8, 2000, 4:12:49 PM12/8/00
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Indrakshi wrote:
>
> I am having a problem wearing liquid make-up. My skin gets so dry
> around my nose and chin area that my liquid make-up ends up looking flaky as
> soon as I apply it.
> I have tried drinking more water to hydrate my skin to no avail. Some
> days I need to apply moisturizer up to 4 times. SInce I live in
> Pennsylvania, and it is cold, the problem has become worse.
> Has anyone had this problem and found a solution? Can anyone recommend
> a moisturizer, liquid make-up, or any other product that may help?

what brands of makeup & moisturizer are you using?

what are you doing around the house to humidify?

I would first try running a humidifier. They're not expensive & they
make a HUGE difference in how you feel. I can't sleep without one in the
winter or I wake up all coughy & dehydrated.

Drinking water does help. How much are you drinking? You should be
drinking your daily requirement (that is 8 glasses @ 8 oz a day), plus
more if you can. Of course, if you're not drinking as much as you
should, don't rush out and start drinking 2 gallons a day. You'll never
leave the bathroom. ;)

As for moisturizers... I find the slightly more expensive ones do tend
to work better. I have been using Total Effects by Olay. I <3 this
stuff. It moisturizes really well & makes my skin look fantastic. Yay! I
had been using a L'oreal moisturizer, but it doesn't do nearly as good a
job as the Olay stuff. Get some testers from makeup counters & give some
different brands a try. :)

Makeup? Hmm. I dunno. I never have a problem looking cakey since I tend
to use a good moisturizer & get oily patches after a long day.

HTH.

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Mr.Hypocondria

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Dec 8, 2000, 4:45:00 PM12/8/00
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>Can anyone recommend
>a moisturizer, liquid make-up, or any other product that may help?

I've always liked Clinique's Dramatically Different moisterizer. I used to use
it to cure chapped lips, even.

Have you tried using an overnight cream-type moisterizer? My mother put a
little layer of Vaseline all over her face every night for years to keep her
skin soft. (I have oily skin, I couldn't possibly imagine doing this but she
swore by it, says it gets rid of wrinkles too.)

--Mike

malediction

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Dec 8, 2000, 5:52:06 PM12/8/00
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> I am having a problem wearing liquid make-up. My skin gets so dry
> around my nose and chin area that my liquid make-up ends up looking flaky
as
> soon as I apply it.


This happens to me every year. I no longer wear liquid
foundation (only powder now), but it is still icky and noticeable
if I don't work on it.
First, I agree with what diana said in her post, drink lots o' water
(which you said you do, FYI I drink almost 3 liters a day and
I still have dry flakey skin on my face in the winter) and try
a humidifier.

The key for me is exfoliating. You must gently exfoliate before
putting the make-up on to get a smooth surface. I used to use
St. Ives Apricot scrub religiously, but since reading some
of Paula Begoun's books, I switched to baking soda which
is more gentle. Also, avoid harsh cleansers. I use the Cetaphil
gentle cleanser (well, actually I use the generic store brand,
much cheaper and same ingredients!) and mix a little baking
soda in when I want to put make-up on.
Do a pre foundation scrub and then slather on the moisturizer
and let it soak in a bit and if you find you still have a few flakey
bits after the initial moisturizer soaks in, add more where needed.
This works really well for me!

-mal
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D.E.

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Dec 8, 2000, 7:16:01 PM12/8/00
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God i am having the same problem, except i am allergic to EVERYTHING!!! So i
cant use moisterisers.....grrrr

Eternal


cen0...@earthlink.net

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Dec 8, 2000, 6:42:18 PM12/8/00
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On Fri, 8 Dec 2000 15:56:27 -0500, "Indrakshi"
<queend...@mindspring.com> wrote:

> I am having a problem wearing liquid make-up. My skin gets so dry
>around my nose and chin area that my liquid make-up ends up looking flaky as
>soon as I apply it.
> I have tried drinking more water to hydrate my skin to no avail. Some
>days I need to apply moisturizer up to 4 times. SInce I live in
>Pennsylvania, and it is cold, the problem has become worse.
> Has anyone had this problem and found a solution? Can anyone recommend
>a moisturizer, liquid make-up, or any other product that may help?
>


When I was younger I had the worst oily skin but that has calmed
down and now it's the opposite in a way. Not really dry but if i
don't take care of it in the winter I have the same problem.

The first thing is to be consistent with your cleansing routine.
Use a mild cleanser. I also use a mild toner which sloughs off
the dead skin and actually helps keep the dry skin away. Scrubs
have become too harsh for me. Then I use Biore moisturizer which
is oil free and has some sunblock. I find that if I do this 2x a
day everyday I don't have any problems but say I skip the
toner/moisturizer one night, I have a problem the next day or
two. Also to reiterate what everyone else said, drink lots of
water. I've never tried a humidifier since my skin isn't really
dry, just chapped/flaky from the cold air.

cenotaph

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Gleipnir

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Dec 9, 2000, 2:45:07 AM12/9/00
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On Fri, 8 Dec 2000 15:56:27 -0500, "Indrakshi"
<queend...@mindspring.com> wrote:

> Has anyone had this problem and found a solution? Can anyone recommend
>a moisturizer, liquid make-up, or any other product that may help?

I as well am very dry. Last year I had similar problems as you did
and asked for suggestions on a.g.f. I got lots of suggestions but
here's what ended up working the best. It's expensive, but my skin
has never looked better, I even get compliments from strangers on it!

Let me preface by saying that if I don't moisturize twice a day my
skin gets flaky and ashy looking, so I am what we would qualify as
"very dry"

Daily I wash my face with lancome clarifiance gel cleanser for
combination skin (only at night) and follow up with lancome tonique
douceur toner, again only at night. A lotion cleanser is better for
dry skin but I hate how lotion cleansers feel. Be sure to use an
alcohol free toner after whatever mild cleanser you choose. VERY
IMPORTANT. Will help your skin retain moisture. It's also
recommended to only wash once a day if you're dry.

After the toner I use fruition by estee lauder. Not really a
necessary step, but definitely changed the texture of my skin and made
it much smoother. I can tell day to day if I don't use it.

Moisturizer: 100% Time release creme, again by estee lauder. I HIGHLY
RECOMMEND THIS!!!!! It moisturizes with biomineral water so it's good
for sensitive skin, and the time release formula keeps you hydrated
for up to twelve hours without feeling greasy since there's no oil in
it. When I started using this product I was flaky all over my
forehead and within a week of moisturizing twice a day I had
absolutely no problems.

I also use a moisture mask once a week or so as a "treat" for my face
after I shower. I use so moist by estee lauder because I have it, any
moisture treatment will do.

As far as liquid makeup is concerned, I recommend a hydrating
foundation, the two that I have used are futurist by estee lauder and
maquivelours by lancome. Both are heavy coverage, lancome's is
heavier and has a tendency to settle after long wear, but they're both
really good at not showing flakiness and even helping to moisturize!
Also when you powder you may want to try just a dusting of loose
powder or a powder with oil in it. I adore Lancome dual finish.

*whew* Again, all this isn't necessary per se, this is just what I've
found works *best* for me.

Hope this helps,
Rachel
"Maybe I aint used to Maybes smashing in a cold room"
-Tori Amos
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Pocketwop

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Dec 9, 2000, 4:45:56 AM12/9/00
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In article <90rhre$qh6$1...@slb0.atl.mindspring.net>,

"Indrakshi" <queend...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I am having a problem wearing liquid make-up. My skin gets so dry
> around my nose and chin area that my liquid make-up ends up looking
flaky as
> soon as I apply it.
> I have tried drinking more water to hydrate my skin to no avail.
Some
> days I need to apply moisturizer up to 4 times. SInce I live in
> Pennsylvania, and it is cold, the problem has become worse.
> Has anyone had this problem and found a solution? Can anyone
recommend
> a moisturizer, liquid make-up, or any other product that may help?

Yup. That's icky stuff. I've always lived in cold to colder places,
and have gotten progressively dryer skin since I turned 18, and I
didn't like seeing that when I had it.

Here's the list of stuff I use, which keeps my skin clear and keeps it
moisturized (I have dry skin that is nonetheless prone to random zits,
blackheads, etc.):

oatmeal soap with no preservatives and a complexion brush (all times,
though as soon as this runs out, I have some Kiss My Face Olive Oil
soap I expect to work very well)

Alcohol-free toner from Neutrogena (every time I wash my face)

St. Ives Retinol cream (night only)

St. Ives Alpha-Hydroxy moisturizing cream (night only)

St. Ives cucumber anti-stress eye gel (night only)

St. Ives Gentle Moisturizer thing with SPF 15 (day only)

Sample tube of Lancome Primordiale eye cream, (day only) [will want a
whole little tub of it when I run out, though it's really expensive -
fabulous eye cream]

Freeman Meadowsweet/Bilberry Alpha/Beta Hydroxy facial scrub (two or
three times a week in the morning, which also helps me wake up)

Occasionally, I dig into the remains of some Estee Lauder heavy duty
stuff at night, and I always use lots of lip goo (I have this German
stuff I picked up that's really gummy and sticky, but very effective)

Extremely occasionally: some kind of mask, either mud or peel-off,
depending on what I've put myself through

For some reason, the continous skin sloughing from the retinol,
alpha/beta hydrox, complexion brush, and occasional scrubs seems to
keep my skin in far better shape - clear and well moisturized.
Somehow, getting rid of the really, really dead stuff on top helps the
moisturizers work better. Chicago winds are rough, and in response, I
just use a bit extra moisturizer in the morning, and that seems to do
it. All are touted as anti-aging, too, which is a nice benefit. Given
that I'm a really awful chain smoker, drink mostly caffeine, live in
The Windy City, and have hypersensitive, allergic skin, this seems to
work out quite well to avoid dry patches and ashiness both and keep it
nice and calm and predictable.

Word of caution: DON'T start using both alpha-hydroxy stuff and over-
the-counter retinol goo at the same time. Both are mild irritants, and
you might end up with a totally red and sore face. Work up to it
slowly.

The thin layer of Vaseline trick is a really, really old trick that
does work like magic when your face is wind-burned or sunburned. It
has to be a really thin layer, though. (Pure cocoa butter in stick
form also helps for that, and smells good.) I could see it as an
everyday thing for people who NEVER break out, but I'm not,
unfortunately, one of them; YMMV. Vaseline is just a good thing to
have around in general for all kinds of issues (try nuking some until
it's a little runny, and then rubbing it on your feet after soaking
them, then going to bed with cotton socks on - it's a good way to
recover horribly abused and sore feet, and it doesn't get much cheaper
than that).
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Dec 9, 2000, 4:55:00 AM12/9/00
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In article <3a31e0b4...@news.doit.wisc.edu>,

rjr...@nospam.students.wisc.edu wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Dec 2000 15:56:27 -0500, "Indrakshi"
> <queend...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I as well am very dry. Last year I had similar problems as you did
> and asked for suggestions on a.g.f. I got lots of suggestions but
> here's what ended up working the best. It's expensive, but my skin
> has never looked better, I even get compliments from strangers on it!

[snippery]
I've tried most of these things in sample form, and I have to concur
that they are incredibly fabulous (Estee Lauder and Lancome invariably
make some of the best face goo out there, period - all of it works, in
my experience). If you can find a way to afford it, do it. I've found
St. Ives and Freeman stuff to be the best low price options in general,
and they seem to be good ways to work up to the pricey, luxuriant
stuff, as they seem to work just fine with the nice stuff when you
can't afford a whole line.

Wannabe Lauder/Lancome Whore, drooling with jealousy, desperately happy
that her color of Dual Finish Lancome came in yesterday, finally

KAR5058

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Dec 9, 2000, 7:22:08 PM12/9/00
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> I am having a problem wearing liquid make-up. My skin gets so dry
> around my nose and chin area that my liquid make-up ends up looking
flaky as
> soon as I apply it.

Okay, I have this problem too-
here are three products I recommend to control it:

--Peter Thomas Roth "Botanical Buffing Beads".
To exfoliate dead skin and open pores. Use before cleansing.
It is really gentle stuff, and won't turn your face red.

--Eucerin cream. Read about this last year in this newsgroup,
it's wonderful under your makeup! I apply it after washing my face,
before bedtime, and anytime I feel dry.

--Ponds cold cream. My mom always swore by it for removing
makeup, but also as a moisturizer. Sometimes I smear it on
like a masque for a deep conditioning experience.

Kar
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Miss Margaret

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Dec 10, 2000, 5:43:38 PM12/10/00
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On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, Indrakshi wrote:

> Has anyone had this problem and found a solution? Can anyone recommend
> a moisturizer, liquid make-up, or any other product that may help?

I also tend to get flaky skin in the winter - I have to change my skin
care around a bit once October hits.

Face wash: Nutri-biotic moisturizing face wash - this is good for
pretty much any skin type, and is vegan-friendly to boot. 1x every day,
at night - I just rinse my face in the AM.

Exfoliating: St Ives Gentle Apricot scrub - this is new, and uses
jojoba beads to exfoliate instead of the apricot seeds. 2-3x per week.

Moisturizer: Alternating between Avon Anew cream in the morning and Estee
Lauder 100% Time-release cream at night. The Anew has alpha-hydroxy for
exfoliating, and the Estee Lauder is a nice general moisturizer.

Mask: Avon Intensive Moisturizing Treatment - this is serious treatment,
with almond oil and other good things - it's cheap, too!

Exfoliating and moisturizing are really the key to keeping flakiness down.

Miss Margaret

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