absie
> I need to find out where to get JTHM T-shirt transfers.
> AJ seriously throws a huge fit whenever his daddy wears a JTHM shirt
> because he wants one too.
> I could just make my own transfer, but I thought Jhonen was readlly
> uptighty about the copyright thing, and I wouldn't want to piss him
> off...
you're not selling it, so do it.
find a graphic online (or photocopy/scan al-muffin's shirt), buy a transfer
kit from staples, and find whatever printer the kit requires (deskjet, i
think). buy him a tshirt. i hate to tell you, but transfers don't seem to do
too well on dark colors. maybe someone else can offer advice on that
problem.
ygg
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> absinthea laments:
>
> > I need to find out where to get JTHM T-shirt transfers.
> > AJ seriously throws a huge fit whenever his daddy wears a JTHM shirt
> > because he wants one too.
>
> > I could just make my own transfer, but I thought Jhonen was readlly
> > uptighty about the copyright thing, and I wouldn't want to piss him
> > off...
>
> you're not selling it, so do it.
>
> find a graphic online (or photocopy/scan al-muffin's shirt), buy a transfer
> kit from staples, and find whatever printer the kit requires (deskjet, i
> think). buy him a tshirt. i hate to tell you, but transfers don't seem to do
> too well on dark colors. maybe someone else can offer advice on that
> problem.
nahh. all the ones on the market i've found, and i just checked recently
are for white shirts :(
you migh have different luck tho.,
m.
In article <756n3j$11r$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, kra...@ibm.net wrote
(Absinthea inquired about making tee shirt transfers from Jhonen art):
> you're not selling it, so do it.
Well, yeah, but that doesn't mean it's not going to offend the original
artist (okay, we know he'll probably never see it, but)... Personally, I
wouldn't want people running around making tee shirts out of my artwork
that they found on the web or in a magazine, even if they *weren't*
selling them...doubly so if I had licensed tee shirts for sale somewhere.
Sure, no one's going to come to her door, arrest her and confiscate the
homemade shirt, of course, but I can understand why she'd feel a smidge
uncomfortable about making one.
> find a graphic online (or photocopy/scan al-muffin's shirt), buy a transfer
> kit from staples, and find whatever printer the kit requires (deskjet, i
> think). buy him a tshirt. i hate to tell you, but transfers don't seem to do
> too well on dark colors. maybe someone else can offer advice on that
> problem.
Your're right -- no commercial inkjet or laser transfers are currently
available that work on anything but white or light colored shirts. (The
darkest shirt I've used them on -- and I've used just about every brand
for ink jet and laser -- was a salmon pink color). There is a
professional product available to tee shirt printers which allows you to
bond a blank white transfer to a black or dark-colored shirt, and then
apply your regular colored transfer on top of the blank one -- however,
this a) is hard to find, expensive, and requires a heat press and b) makes
for a big, stiff chunk of goo on your shirt. If the person mentioned
above wanted to do something on black, they could make the artwork into a
screen and screenprint it in white onto the black shirt. This involves a
good bit of effort and expense (something they might not want to get into
for just one shirt), and requires knowledge of how to convert the original
art into something that will screen well. If it's a 72-dpi jpeg off of
the Web it may not translate to a screen at all. There are home
screenprinting kits available at larger craft stores. Basically it
involves printing a negative of the art onto a transparency from your
laser printer, exposing the neg onto a screen (which is just a bit of
tight-weave screen fabric in a frame) and squeegeein' the ink through the
screen onto the shirt. Easily done at home with the right equipment and
know-how, but messy, stinky and laborious. It's hard to do more than one
color on a shirt this way, as you need to line 'em up perfectly, and hope
the ink doesn't drip.
White shirts can be goth, can't they? :)
Sparky
been there, done that, made the tee shirts
You could always just buy a JTHM shirt and cut out the picture and sew it onto
a shirt of your chouce. Use some neato shiny purple thread and you would have
a nifty looking shirt.
Akiros Ze Blue Skittle
Do it. I think it's a pretty peachy idea, and since you're only going to
make one...
I know of a place here in my town (it's a hick town... I'm sure everyone has
one) that does silk screening. My friend has a bunch of designs he wants to
put on black t-shirts (If you've ever heard of Vampire: The Masquerade,
you'd understand... things like "I'm not a Samedi, but that's my big toe"..
*L* things like that). They'll do it for about 10-12 dollars per shirt..
My boi just came home (poor guy... 12 hours at work), and I asked him... he
said that you can just go to a silk screener, with your pictures, and just
ask them for the silk screen, and the paint. my boi had to do this for
brownsea (boyscout camp). He had to silk screen on a bunch of boyscout
symbols onto the hankerchifs (sp?) for the boyscouts. The silk screen is
easy: It's a wooden frame, with double woven silk where the paint shouldn't
get through, and single woven silk where the paint should get through... you
dump a small amount of paint onto the frame, and squeegie it accross... then
let dry.You'll be able to use it multpile times *S*. this is rather cheap...
although they might question you using a copyrighted character, if they can
tell...
Lilly
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> My boi just came home (poor guy... 12 hours at work), and I asked him... he
> said that you can just go to a silk screener, with your pictures, and just
> ask them for the silk screen, and the paint.
<snip> The key word here is "your" pictures -- as in *you* drew them or
you have permission from the original artist/copyright holder for them. If
not, the screenprinter should not be making you a screen, much less a
shirt.
> let dry.You'll be able to use it multpile times *S*. this is rather cheap...
> although they might question you using a copyrighted character, if they can
> tell...
Once again...if you make the screen *yourself* at home or use an inkjet
transfer, and make ONE shirt, most likely nobody's gonna come after you
(however, it's still not legal). But commercial tee shirt places *can't*
use copyrighted material to make you a screen or a shirt without
permission from the copyright holder. It's illegal. Many tee
shirt/embroidery/sign companies have been sued over this, some have nearly
lost their businesses as a result.
Oddly enough (and there's a sob story letter to the editor in the last ish
of Printwear magazine about this...the person who brought in the artwork
lied and said it was their design, the tee shirt co. printed up a bunch of
shirts for them, and somehow the original owner of the art found out.
Boom-- lawsuit, which the shirt co. lost), the copyright holder is
perfectly able to hold the tee shirt place responsible for the
infringement as well, even if they never asked the customer if it was
copyrighted material, and even if they DID ask and the customer lied and
told them it was your own artwork.
If you're dead set on copying other people's artwork to make a tee
shirt/hat/mug/boxershorts/toothbrush holder/chihuahua sweater, please, at
least do it yourself -- don't get someone else's company involved and make
them potentially liable.
Sparky
>If you're dead set on copying other people's artwork to make a tee
>shirt/hat/mug/boxershorts/toothbrush holder/chihuahua sweater, please, at
>least do it yourself -- don't get someone else's company involved and make
>them potentially liable.
Yes, good point. I understand what you're saying.
Something else I gotta toss out for an Idea, though...
A program called "Hanes T-shirt Maker" should do the trick. Yeah, it may be
costy (like, 50-60 dollars, I think), but it'll work nicely. You use your
standard ink jet printer, and special paper that comes with the kit. You
make your design, and print it out on the paper, then iron on. This works on
all colors of fabric (yes, including black). I watched there infomercial
when I had access to cable (oh, those were the days), and i saw it on there
*L*... I've seen it in my local Hastings, though. It also has a guarentee:
If you screw up on any Hanes T-shirt, they'll replace it for free.
The kit also includes 1 or 2 white t-shirts.
Lilly
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> > you're not selling it, so do it.
sparky comments:
> Well, yeah, but that doesn't mean it's not going to offend the original
> artist
sparky again comments:
<<Once again...if you make the screen *yourself* at home or use
an inkjet transfer, and make ONE shirt, most likely nobody's
gonna come after you (however, it's still not legal).>>
okay. we're talking about *one* shirt for a *toddler*
akiros helpfully suggests:
<<You could always just buy a JTHM shirt and cut out the picture
and sew it onto a shirt of your chouce. Use some neato shiny
purple thread and you would have a nifty looking shirt.>>
this is a great idea, but we must remember that AJ is close to three years
old and is rather small for a human being (but perfect for a toddler).
designs on adult shirts or even licensed transfers sold for adult use are
probably way too big for his tiny shirts. dad's JTHM design probably
wouldn't fit on a 4T t-shirt. i *really* like the idea, though.
nightime offers:
<<A program called "Hanes T-shirt Maker" should do the trick.
Yeah, it may be costy (like, 50-60 dollars, I think), but
it'll work nicely.>>
this is just like the other transfer programs. the paper can cost from 9 to
20 dollars for 10 sheets. it produces a stiff design and doesn't transfer
onto dark colors. i tried to transfer a scarlet image of a stylized celtic
dog (demonic poodle skirt image) to some black linen, hoping i could
embroider over it. it leaves stiff goo on the fabric and nothing (no image
or colors) shows but the goo. if AJ doesn't mind a white tshirt, mom could
probably make the transfer.
hell, absie. if it bothers you, send me the graphic you want and *i* will
make the shirt for AJ for christmas. it'll have to be on a light-colored
shirt, though.
kra...@ibm.net wrote:
>
> you're not selling it, so do it.
An artist friend of mine who has met and chatted with Jhonen on several
occasions says he is REALLY tight about his artwork, since some skater
kids were using his art on the bottom of their boards.
Also, AJ wouldn't care if his T were light coloured. Hes not that vain
yet ;)
later,
absie