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AngelDye

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Oct 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/31/98
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Luluwhite wrote:
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> I can't be the only one- thought I'd start the sobbing first!

i hear you sister!! i'm sitting here handing out candy... i've seen
some cute kids though... this one ADORABLE bumble bee..

but i'm fucking bored.. SOoo i'm going to the movies.. BY MY SELF!
goddamn it.. that and i'm dressed in black .. ::::as usual::: and Pops
goes.. "wow.. your dressed up for handing out candy.. PERFECT!!?!?::::


> This pathetic lack of life rant brought to you by the social pariah,

we sould start a social pariah's club.

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Lady Lamia

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Luluwhite wrote:

> I can't be the only one- thought I'd start the sobbing first!

You're not!! I should be at a really cool wedding/costume party right
now! I want to go out *so* bad, but I had an accident at work last
week. I fell 10 feet and landed on my back - on concrete. I guess I
should thank my lucky stars that I can walk and am just dealing with
some major back pain. So, in other words ... this little girl has been
spending lots and *lots* of time in bed. I'm treating myself to the
computer tonight, darn it!

Erin
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moon

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Oct 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/31/98
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> but i'm fucking bored.. SOoo i'm going to the movies.. BY MY SELF!

Your not alone. I did the same but I rather enjoyed it. Saw Ever After
with drooly costumes. I went In my costume too.

-moon

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Anja

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Oct 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/31/98
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All of these stories are great, but I have the best of all. Here it is:
I went out of town to go to a club alone because the boi left me after 4+
years for another girl (who happens to look just like me). He told me I
wasn't pretty enough and that I was too emotional for him. Then after
getting there and finding a friend of mine that I hadn't seen for quite some
time, I started freaking out because I wasn't with the boi. I know that I
don't want to be someone who isn't going to treat me well, but I still
really miss him. Therefore, I went home to cry to my mom about feeling
worthless and depressed. I am starting to feel better now, but I'm still
lonely.

Feeling pathetic,
Anja

P.S. I know this isn't the place but if any of you know a nice guy that
lives in Kansas and would like to date a slightly voluptuous goth send him
my way!!
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Holly Jones

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Oct 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/31/98
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> I can't be the only one- thought I'd start the sobbing first!

Oh for joy, a reason for me to babble and sob!

> The man is sick and watching PBS-

Hey, "Are You Being Served" was on here.

> I still feel ill and am doing THIS!

Yeah, Halloween is definitely not a fun day to sit home alone. My guy had to go to
South Carolina this weekend, so as a form of mourning for not having a partner to
chain to me I stayed in and searched the T.V. for stuff to watch. The assortment
is ok, but it's hard to choose which to stay with. I decided on Rosemary's Baby.

> I should be stuffing bears or something....lets see- this morning I went to the
> p.o- a man was all irate because a book of stamps cost 6.40- he told the postal
> employee he ripped him off- this guy must have not bought stamps in 10 + years!

Oh wow, no way? That's...interesting.

> I got a Veggiegoth card

sounds so cool!

> then I went to the bank where I put $$ in the ATM and the man went inside and I
> watched the clerk ask a guy if he wanted big bills and the guy went...ooh,
> yeah! like you just know this guy is one of those idiots that walk around with
> their entire life savings shoved into a pocket so when they buy a pack of gum
> they can whip out a big wad of 20s and flip through it- oh yeah..I'm
> impressed.....

HA HA HA...thanks, I needed that laugh. You know, for being ill you are still
funny.

> then we went to the donut shop where an old lady demanded they take donuts out
> back so she could have powdered crullers- they had plain ones - they did it!
> Then the woman has some change in her hand and tips them 8 cents! she made SURE
> NOT to put the quarter she had in her hand in the basket! garg!

Wow, you have had an eventful day! Much better than mine, I only went and got
shrimp with lobster sauce and wrote my med civ paper.

> Then I watched a mother order a five year old a coffee....um....hello?

I wish my mom...no, nevermind, I drink too much coffee anyway.

> Then we got so sick of humanity we went home- ta- da- thats my halloween-

Sounds better than mine, not to cause a "My halloween was worse than yours" war.
We should have all gotten together and raided chat rooms or something.

> I do have a bag of hershey bars to chaw on-

Mmmm...

> but my stomach hurts- and my head....I live in an apt with locked outside doors-
> no trick or treaters....

I live in a dorm, and the sorority girls brought in all the little ones the other
night. I would have liked it, but you know what...THEY DIDN"T EVEN DRESS UP!!!
They just came around to mooch candy! Arggh!

> but, on a happier note- tomorrow is the best shopping day of the year!

I smell makeup, candy, and halloween toy whoring!!!

> spooky bargains here I come!!! and candy at 60% off! I am going to get some
> skeleton lights! woohoo!

Yeah, who needs the day after Thanksgiving!

>

This sequel to the pathetic rant brought to you by the person who is so bored that
she thought she would explore the culture of the world by listening to other
cities' radio stations on the new realplayer

Holly


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Luluwhite

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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I can't be the only one- thought I'd start the sobbing first!

The man is sick and watching PBS- I still feel ill and am doing THIS! I should


be stuffing bears or something....lets see- this morning I went to the p.o- a
man was all irate because a book of stamps cost 6.40- he told the postal
employee he ripped him off- this guy must have not bought stamps in 10 + years!

I got a Veggiegoth card from Sparky with a vampire with carrot fangs saying I
vant to suck your Tofu! Which was unbelievably neat! In case you didnt know-
Sparky is doing the Veggiegoth collective graphix- which is up and ready for
contributions, btw- veggiegoth recipes and hints and
stuff...(http://members.aol.com/futilegoth/veggiegoth.htm)

then I went to the bank where I put $$ in the ATM and the man went inside and I
watched the clerk ask a guy if he wanted big bills and the guy went...ooh,
yeah! like you just know this guy is one of those idiots that walk around with
their entire life savings shoved into a pocket so when they buy a pack of gum
they can whip out a big wad of 20s and flip through it- oh yeah..I'm
impressed.....

then we went to the donut shop where an old lady demanded they take donuts out


back so she could have powdered crullers- they had plain ones - they did it!
Then the woman has some change in her hand and tips them 8 cents! she made SURE
NOT to put the quarter she had in her hand in the basket! garg!

Then I watched a mother order a five year old a coffee....um....hello?

Then we got so sick of humanity we went home- ta- da- thats my halloween- I do
have a bag of hershey bars to chaw on- but my stomach hurts- and my head....I
live in an apt with locked outside doors- no trick or treaters....but, on a
happier note- tomorrow is the best shopping day of the year! spooky bargains


here I come!!!
and candy at 60% off! I am going to get some skeleton lights! woohoo!


This pathetic lack of life rant brought to you by the social pariah,

Mare

PoisonTear

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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Okay, everyone else is compaining, I will too.
First I woke up to that horrible annoying monthly
visitor women get. Yay! Cramps and nausea!
Second, my dad got me a cute widdle kitten. aww!
It was the sweetest thing! BUT! I have a dog,
Now my dog didn't care about the cat, but the cat
tried to claw my doggies eyes out. My dad came by
and picked the cat up.
THEN! My grandma calls to inform me that my
cousin is in the hospital with cancer! Oh yes, I was
very excited about this. *cry* My uncle died two years
ago from cancer, and now my cousin, just out of
highschool, is in the hospital.
I was going to go clubbing and going to wrap myself in duct
tape. Well, I got my legs nice and taped up. *sweat*
uh uh. no way I can handle 10 full minutes of that.
Anyway, the only person who showed up here was my
friend Joey, and he's gone off with my brother
somewhere, so this leaves me home, alone, with
really bad horror movies.
Happy Halloween to you too.

.:glitter.:.and.:.glamour:.
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KRiSDoG

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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*sigh* my halloween sucked as well. i was all ready to stay at home and watch
some movies, cause.. yknow.. me and my lack of a life.

but no.. someone had to go ruin my self induced boredom and call me. at 6 o
clock. BEGGING for me to go out with them. so we discussed and fought and
fought and got violent some more, so we came up with going trick or treating at
her place. i have half an hour to get ready. [1]

easy enough, right? NO.

my other friend calls. she lives in wilmington (about a half hour away) and
begs to come. so thankfully she catches a ride here. we get there , walk around
her neighborhood and get no candy, cos everyones turned off their lights by
now. blah.

cept we did get a singular lolly from a guy who chased us with a chainsaw (w/o
a blade.. damn..)

the rest of the night was pretty uneventful.. went to an empty playground and
did (pretended, thankfully.. that metal was COLD.) obscene things to the
swingset and those little horsey lookin things thats on a spring, and all those
other playground toys. hehehe that was fun. all this while singing nursery
rhymes at the top of our lungs.

and then we get back to her house.. and my ride comes and *surpise* my
wilmington dwelling friend needs a ride! cept now it'll take about an hour to
get her home! eeeek!

*sigh* all that and no candy. hehe. i shoulda stayed home.

-ixion, now very tired wif yucky looking makeup..

[1] my last minute costume was the model student- my school skirt rolled up til
it was almost obscene, fishnets, a camo shirt under a white buttondown, lots of
chains, black, thick eyeliner and badly applied red lippie, and my boots with
4 inch platforms (you can't run in those too easily..)


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KRiSDoG

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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>I had an accident at work last
>week. I fell 10 feet and landed on my back - on concrete.

eep! i know how that feels! i did that once.. i fell off a ladder and landed on
my post and rail fence, then rolled off onto my driveway. well, i just hope you
feel better!

best wishes,
ixion

DrgnflyDsn

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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<<but, on a
happier note- tomorrow is the best shopping day of the year! spooky bargains
here I come!!!
and candy at 60% off! I am going to get some skeleton lights! woohoo! >>

Yes, I have already plotted out my route to the Halloween clearance events
tomorrow!
Kind of rough one for me this year as well. This is the first Halloween my
spouse and I couldn't be together. Very disappointing. I was about to wallow
in self pity when my mother brought my five year old nephew over to help me had
out candy. It was mighty cute. We were both dressed in black. He was ninja
and I was dressed a silent movie star from the 20's. It's sort of Arabian
nights looking. I hand painted the velvet coat with 60 moons and stars as a
border.
The worst was finding out someone we knew was ran over by a truck tonight and
killed.


Ronda
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Psiberpath

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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Pathetic Haloween:

Lady Arakne stuck at home (after working 8 hours at her mundane job) with that
damned
cold..... a warm milk toddy full of Bailey's Irish Creme and Khalua, no Gost
(the bloke she's
become rather attatched to via eMail/IMs,
snail-mail/landline) having read any of her emails since the 19th!!!

(Guess his modem's busted again...)

Dressed depressingly Corp Goth today, in protest of the silliness of everyone
else, and
still managed to turn heads at work (which is not
my goal), only to find out my best friend from work (this gorgous Irish bloke
with green eyes and long black hair) was having too much FUN going as "Jesus"
in chains and stuff!
(Lucky Snot!)

So, I'm sitting here sharing stories with all of you.... nursing my cold and my
hot toddy, and
wonderign what to wear tomorrow......and wishing that Gost were not in Twin
Cities (or that I could find a local chap with all the prerequisites...) and
were here to keep my feet warm....

Lady Arakne

(hhhhhhaaaaaaaCCCCChhhhhhhOOOOOO!)


Psiberpath. Cybergoth. Sewingoth.

TwstedRose

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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Warning: Very long.....


Ok, I might as well join in the ranting. Misery loves company, eh? I'm
bored. I'm stuck at my parent's house tonight, house-sitting while they are in
Florida. Well, not stuck exactly, I could go out, but I have no one to go out
with and nothing I can think of that I want to do alone. My current situation
right now is that I only have two friends (pathetic, no?) One of them is prolly
out with her nasty, crusty, maimed stump of a boyfriend since it's his
birthday. My other friend has been MIA ever since she started going out with
her current squeeze. My boi is thousands of miles away right now, prolly
getting shitfaced and hit on at some stupid party.

Ideally, I would have a simple little Samhain ritual, take a little trip to my
favorite cemetery and clean it up a bit, and maybe have a small gathering of
friends at my house. I could have done the first two alone, but I've been so
depressed lately, I didn't even bother. I'll probably do them next weekend.

School is horrible right now. I have four huge exams this week and I simply
can not make myself study. I just don't want to do anything. I feel so
apathetic and useless. I'm afraid I'm not smart enough to get into medical
school. Sigh.

Oh........and to give this post some semblance of importance.....here's a
quickie review. While wallowing in my self-pity, I went to Walgreens and ended
up buying one of Revlon's gift sets..."Simply Red" color collection. "A $28
value for $10" Woo-hoo. It comes with two nailies, two lippies, and an
eyeshadow. I liked the one nail polish, which looked like red & black glitter,
and one of the lipsticks was labled "red glitter". I figured what the hell.
Well, I ended up being dissapointed. The "red glitter" lipstick is the exact
same color as the other one (marooned) only with some very, very, faint micro
glitter in it. Totally unnoticable. (The bonne bell glittery lip smackers do
a better job) And marooned looks too bright and orange on me. The glittery
polish looked quite pink even with two coats (note: i tried this out on paper
though, maybe it would look better on) The marooned nail polish isn't as bad,
more opaque than the other nailie and more of a brownish-red. The eyeshadow
is a silver gray, and ended up being the most decent thing in the pack. At
least now I have two more lippies to melt and make new creations with.

Well, Halloween will be over in a few minutes....at least in this time zone.
Sorry for my incoherent ramblings. I just needed to vent.

lynn

Serendipitous Spice

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Luluwhite wrote in message <19981031191805...@ng77.aol.com>...

>I can't be the only one- thought I'd start the sobbing first!


yea... my halloween kinda sucked as well. i kinda had fun, but i didn't
really do anything. and then my idiot friends (who i am gradually beomcing
less and less friendly with) were getting drunk and *argh* i already
detailed that in "Re: stupid costume rant" if you're really interested; i'm
not gonna get into it again. i ate a lot of Sweetarts though... that was
good... oooh, and my friend made a drool-worthy dress to be Scarlett
O'Hara. but she couldn't fit through doors cuz of the hoop skirt. :)

love and light,
~*~Carly

XloreleiX

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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Ooh, I can play this game...

My Halloween was pretty much crap too, if it makes anyone feel any better. A
friend invited me to go to Illinois with him to see Christian goth bands
(?)--didn't sound worth the trouble, and I have a month of French homework I
need to catch up on, which I *still* haven't done...so I declined.

All I did today was go to Borders & Kmart. I bought books, an Underworld cd, a
latte, and some of that Facelighting stuff (haven't tried it yet, but there's
yer ObAGF). Came home, read my new book (Crackpot: The Obsessions Of John
Waters--it's fabulous!), am now eating chocolate frosting out of the can
(without a spoon--gawd, I'm such a slob!) and plotting what clearance sales I
want to hit tomorrow...


X Lorelei X
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PoisonTear

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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Is is me or do we get ourselves all worked up
over Halloween, and then we all wind up
cancelling our plans and moping in front of
our monitors? Does this happen ever year on agf?
;Åž
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Teleute0

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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"Anja" <an...@carrollsweb.com> scribbled:

>All of these stories are great, but I have the best of all. Here it is:
>I went out of town to go to a club alone because the boi left me after 4+
>years for another girl (who happens to look just like me). He told me I
>wasn't pretty enough and that I was too emotional for him. Then after
>getting there and finding a friend of mine that I hadn't seen for quite >some
>time, I started freaking out because I wasn't with the boi. I know that I
>don't want to be someone who isn't going to treat me well, but I still
>really miss him. Therefore, I went home to cry to my mom about feeling
>worthless and depressed. I am starting to feel better now, but I'm still
>lonely.

::huggleshuggleshuggles:: i know how you feel.. exactly. it does
get better, soon. and you *do* deserve someone to treat you as
beautifull as you truly are.

if you want to talk, i'm always here.

--teleute.


~*~
so it's all come back 'round to breaking apart again
breaking apart like i'm made up of glass again . . .
now that i know that i'm breaking to pieces,
i'll pull out my heart and i'll feed it to anyone.
-- the cure.

Cassidy

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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One day, it so happened that PoisonTear wrote:

>this leaves me home, alone, with really bad horror movies.

Well, I watched Fantasy Island - but otherwise the same.

>Happy Halloween to you too.

Yeah. Hopefully somebody out there enjoyed it. *sigh*
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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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my halloween was as fun as ever... i did tons of scchoolwork, then the
three of us watched an x-files episode (to get into character, heh),
then we went out to dinner (where the waitstaff were eyeing my fake
scully fbi badge suspiciously, *teehee*), and then we went in search
of a london drugs that would sell us a transit fare card... it was fun
watching everybody walking around in their costumes. *and* i was so
excited 'cause these two guys at the drugstore said, 'hey scully!'
when i went by, *whee!*

my costume was kind of simplegoff:

*black ribbed t
*black pants
*dark purple changes-colour-in-different-lighting blouse, fitted
*my wonderful long black wool (someday i'll get a vegan coat,
dammit!)
*boots with maybe 2-inch heels (i'd forgotten how hard it can be to
walk in heels--my feet are still recovering!--i'm more of a
big-clunky-shoes person)
*fake fbi badge safety-pinned to my coat
*my own silver glasses that just happen to look similar to scully's
reading glasses *grin*

hurrah! not that we did anythng that wasn't lame, but.

oh, and i had to reply to this:

On 1 Nov 1998 05:06:15 GMT, twste...@aol.com.sucks (TwstedRose)
wrote:


>School is horrible right now. I have four huge exams this week and I simply
>can not make myself study. I just don't want to do anything. I feel so
>apathetic and useless. I'm afraid I'm not smart enough to get into medical
>school. Sigh.

*hug* i knwo how you feel! though my case is a bit different--i keep
getting scared that i'm not smart enough, or else i don't have the
right kind of mind, to *be* in grad school. the feeling usually
passes, and it only rully comes on when i start panicking about
getting assignments done, but... it's no fun. all i can say is, just
remember not to panic. and good luck with your exams! (i have a paper
due monday and a presentation to give in class on wednesday, and
another presentation on friday... and i'm only taking three classes!)

>I liked the one nail polish, which looked like red & black glitter,
>and one of the lipsticks was labled "red glitter". I figured what the hell.
>Well, I ended up being dissapointed. The "red glitter" lipstick is the exact
>same color as the other one (marooned) only with some very, very, faint micro
>glitter in it. Totally unnoticable. (The bonne bell glittery lip smackers do
>a better job)

(and they *do* do a good job! my friends keep commenting how 'you've
got glitter on your lips, it looks funny'! 'course, they also say that
the slight blue sheen on my lips makes me look like i'm ffreezing to
death, heh.)

anyway. *hugs!* and *glitter!* to everyone who had a lame halloween!

--moira


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StormWillow

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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XloreleiX <xlor...@aol.com.sod.off> wrote...

> Ooh, I can play this game...
>
> My Halloween was pretty much crap too, if it makes anyone feel any
better. A
> friend invited me to go to Illinois with him to see Christian goth bands
> (?)--didn't sound worth the trouble,

a friend of mine went to a christian rock band show once. he decided to go
there and "freak people out", so he wore makeup, a manson shirt, a
pentagram, and a skirt. it turned out that half the people did that. it
also turned out that the christian rock band was a satanic rock band trying
to infiltrate christian clubs and such. they came up to him and asked if
he'd like to join their order (or something like that).

---Willow

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AngelDye

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moon wrote:

> Your not alone. I did the same but I rather enjoyed it. Saw Ever After
> with drooly costumes. I went In my costume too.
>

hehee at least you saw a good movie.. :) had the horrible chance of
picking a crappy one. Kinda set the tone for the whole evening. just
what ever you guys do.. Only go see John Carpenters VAMPIRES for the
costumes. Do not expect acting, cus you won't find it in this movie.


Becca
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Filigree00

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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>THEN! My grandma calls to inform me that my
>cousin is in the hospital with cancer! Oh yes, I was
>very excited about this. *cry* My uncle died two years
>ago from cancer, and now my cousin, just out of
>highschool, is in the hospital.

I'm so sorry...it makes no sense when someone so young gets it.

My coz is still young, the most active and healthy person in the extended
family probably, and has been fighting cancer for several years. At least her
and her wonderful fiance are getting married in November so I get to see her
and meet her hubby finally.

filigree

recovering from her first halloween of doing something *other* than sit around
in *years*.
(Last year I lay on the couch with a big gaping hole in my mouth where my tooth
was pulled from that day, while my then-new cat who had shown up at my door the
day before lay on me purring!)

Filigree00

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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> i'm sitting here handing out candy... i've seen
>some cute kids though... this one ADORABLE bumble bee..

For some reason, I found the kids who came to the door alone so
sad...especially this one who made his own Brooklyn Dodger's uniform where he
drew on a t-shirt to look like the jersey. It's like, they take all the time
to dress up and go out, and they have to trick-or-treat alone, not even their
parents will go with them (course, they prolly didn't want them there anyways).
I gave them extra candy!

filigree

Feeling the cycle from childhood to adult-hood is complete now that she finally
got to hand out candy

PoisonTear

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> I gave them extra candy!

*sigh* I had 3 kids show up at my house.
Only three. I could not believe it. Last year
there were loads of kids. Where did they all go?
Anyway, the three kids that showed up got
HANDFULS of candy. They made their own
papermache masks. Very cute.

Abracadaver

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Holly Jones wrote:
>I live in a dorm, and the sorority girls brought in all the little ones
the other night. I would have liked it, but you know what...THEY DIDN"T
EVEN DRESS UP!!! They just came around to mooch candy! Arggh!
~~~~~~~~

What is *with* these kids? This is the first year I've gotten
costumeless trick-or-treaters, and it was really pissing me off. I was
"the mean lady" because I refused to give up any of my precious
chocolate to brats who couldn't be bothered to put the most token effort
into a costume. I mean, I'm not even asking for a "good" costume,
here... how hard is it to wrap yourself in a sheet, smear on some of
your mom's make-up, or make a mask out of a paper bag? Sorry, kids,
it's *Hallowe'en*, not "Get Candy For Nothing Day".

^v^ Abracadaver ^v^
(whose apartment, strangely enough, *didn't* get egged last night...)

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>or make a mask out of a paper bag?

*giggle* My friend went around with some
of his friends with paper bags on their heads.
They wrote what they were suppose to be
above the cut out eye parts. I thought it was

Serendipitous Spice

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PoisonTear wrote in message <19981101162934...@ng78.aol.com>...

>>or make a mask out of a paper bag?
>
>*giggle* My friend went around with some
>of his friends with paper bags on their heads.
>They wrote what they were suppose to be
>above the cut out eye parts. I thought it was
>cute.


lol... one of my friends just wore black pants and a black shirt, then had
cat ears, a witch hat, and a sign with her. the sign said, on one side:
"Witch/Cat." on the other side it said "Michelle." for the first part of
the night she wore the ears or the hat, then when she got sick of them she
took them off and flipped the sign around. then she was Michelle, our
friend who wears black every day. (she doesn't own so much as one item of
clothing that isn't black :)

love and light,
~*~Carly

StormWillow

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PoisonTear <poiso...@aol.com.borg> wrote in article

<19981101162934...@ng78.aol.com>...
> >or make a mask out of a paper bag?
>
> *giggle* My friend went around with some
> of his friends with paper bags on their heads.
> They wrote what they were suppose to be
> above the cut out eye parts. I thought it was
> cute.

nothing can top this... my friend didn't have a costume, so we looked
around our house, and came up with a black hefty bag. my mom cut a hole
for his head and arms, and he put that on, using the yellow
bag-ties/bag-closers to tie the thing under his crotch so it would stay
down. then he took a plastic supermarket bag and put it on his head, tying
it under his head. it was windy that night, so the bag on his head stood
straight up from the wind.

he said he was either a windsock, a human trashbag, or a human condom.

PoisonTear

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>he said he was either a windsock, a human trashbag, or a human condom.

*lol* my mum did this one year.. she went
as white trash =Åž

Luluwhite

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cadaverdog wrote


>
>What is *with* these kids? This is the first year I've gotten
>costumeless trick-or-treaters, and it was really pissing me off. I was
>"the mean lady" because I refused to give up any of my precious
>chocolate to brats who couldn't be

snipp- I'm sorry but I find this terribly amusing- aspecially since I'd wager,
ALL of us could go trick or treeting withOUT costumes and be totally accepted
as having put much thought into our outfits! I remember a kid who went trick or
treeting with a paper plate- at least its something!


Mare


Luluwhite

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filigree wrote


>For some reason, I found the kids who came to the door alone so
>sad

Steps on soapbox.

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH GOING ALONE!

Steps off soapbox.

But seriously- on Pepper Ann (yes, I AM that pathetic!) everybody went alone
because they didnt want anybody else knowing they were Gasp- going trick or
treeting!

Anyway- maybe these kids are just real sneaky and they go out ALL night and run
home and change and then go out again and then maybe they sell all that candy
to the local convenience store- or maybe they OWN the local convenience
store....


Mare

Filigree00

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>
>Steps on soapbox.
>
>THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH GOING ALONE!
>
>Steps off soapbox.

Oops, <sheepish grin> forgot about recent discussions on said topic!

>But seriously- on Pepper Ann (yes, I AM that pathetic!)

Ok, I'm feeling clueless, what is that?

>Anyway- maybe these kids are just real sneaky and they go out ALL night and
>run
>home and change and then go out again and then maybe they sell all that candy
>to the local convenience store- or maybe they OWN the local convenience
>store....

certainly could be, but my bleeding heart just isn't fulfilled with thoughts
like that :P

filigree
who was *never* sneaky as a kid (yeah, right)

XloreleiX

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filigree wrote:

>>But seriously- on Pepper Ann (yes, I AM that pathetic!)
>
>Ok, I'm feeling clueless, what is that?

it's an ABC Saturday morning cartoon. She reminds me of a female "Doug," sorta.
Umm...not that *I* ever watch it, of course!

Lorelei (also pathetic... )

Ice Princess

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StormWillow wrote:
> nothing can top this... my friend didn't have a costume, so we looked
> around our house, and came up with a black hefty bag.

This wasn't for Halloween, but a few years ago a girl in my
Brit-media-fan crowd came to our annual convention in a Dalek costume
made out of a trash bag. It was an absolutely awful, pathetic costume,
but she was so enthusiastic about it that she ended up getting an award
for effort at the masked ball.

Ice Princess

Kaleah

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A short bit ago, Holly Jones wrote scribbled in lipstick upon the mirror:

>I live in a dorm, and the sorority girls brought in all the little ones
> the other night. I would have liked it, but you know what...THEY DIDN"T
> EVEN DRESS UP!!! They just came around to mooch candy! Arggh!

Then Abracadaver followed up in eyeliner:

> What is *with* these kids? This is the first year I've gotten
> costumeless trick-or-treaters, and it was really pissing me off. I was
> "the mean lady" because I refused to give up any of my precious

> chocolate to brats who couldn't be bothered to put the most token effort
> into a costume. I mean, I'm not even asking for a "good" costume,
> here... how hard is it to wrap yourself in a sheet, smear on some of
> your mom's make-up, or make a mask out of a paper bag? Sorry, kids,
> it's *Hallowe'en*, not "Get Candy For Nothing Day".

Heh, then there are people like my family.. We live in The Middle
of Nowhere. Last year, at least we got *two* people to our house
for trick-or-treating.. This year, *none*. I had five friends
over, and we took my two cousins (ages 4 and 8) [1] around the block
(er.. rather down the road :P no real "block"). And we were the
only ones they saw that night.

I must say I didn't mind one bit.. My friends and I just hung
around all night, eating stew, sitting by the "campfire" (as
"bonfires" are now against the law in the state!), playing a bit
of D&D while my older cousin played video games :), and just
acting plain silly - nothing much out of the ordinary.

Both Friday (during and after school for the Homecoming parade)
and Saturday evening I got dressed up in my quite simple costume -
as Sephiroth ! :D I really held back on the details this year -
it consisted only of a black shirt and leggins, boots, a modified
trench coat with foam shoulder pads on top, white hair wig with
some hair cut for the "anime bangs" (which I personally do have
and love *yumm*), and a wooden bokken for a sword for the parade
but my big ol' live 55" at home *bigevilgrin*. [2]

Well, I *was* going to say something else.. but as I got a cold from
a friend who got it from a friend.. I really don't know where my
train of thought is headed at this time, so I'll end here. :)

Kaleah


[1] For those who were interested, their costumes were as follows:
Older cousin: large green shirt laced up at the top, belted, over
brown pants and boots, and one of my shorter black cloaks (reached
to his ankles) - looked gorgeous! His was based on Medieval-style
garb, and he got the idea from one of his many favorite books.
Younger cousin: sequin hood for a chainmail cowl, shirt with a
cross on it, belted at the waist, over some pants and low cut boots,
card board shield with cross and cardboard sword... He was the
cutest knight! :D

[2] Pictures will be scanned as soon as humanly possible, of both
me and my cousins. :)


--
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logical universe that makes sense. But the real universe is
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ZimZum

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ugh i know how you feel. i went "Trick-or-Treating" with like a mob of
10 ppl and only like 5 dressed up. i was shocked that ppl gave out
candy to the people not dressed. I'm not that young either.. 14.. hehe
it seems stupid Trick-or-Treating but it's funn .. i got to wear a
cute black dress...
which i don't normaly dare to wear at school since i'd get the shit
kicked out of me =(

Holly Jones

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> A short bit ago, Holly Jones wrote scribbled in lipstick upon the mirror:
>
> >I live in a dorm, and the sorority girls brought in all the little ones
> > the other night. I would have liked it, but you know what...THEY DIDN"T
> > EVEN DRESS UP!!! They just came around to mooch candy! Arggh!
>
> Then Abracadaver followed up in eyeliner:
>
> > What is *with* these kids? This is the first year I've gotten
> > costumeless trick-or-treaters, and it was really pissing me off. I was
> > "the mean lady" because I refused to give up any of my precious
> > chocolate to brats who couldn't be bothered to put the most token effort
> > into a costume. I mean, I'm not even asking for a "good" costume,
> > here... how hard is it to wrap yourself in a sheet, smear on some of
> > your mom's make-up, or make a mask out of a paper bag? Sorry, kids,
> > it's *Hallowe'en*, not "Get Candy For Nothing Day".
>

HEAR HEAR!! You know, there was this one little kid, it was cute...he at
least..*tried*. He drew on a fake mustache and said he was a man. Gave him a
candy bar when the others weren't around! :o) I'm a sucker for homemade
costumes! LOL I always had the best costumes, though. My mom always made
sure that I was outfitted with a wonderful Simplicity costume with all the
frills and glitter. I was a fairy, a witch, a skeleton, the pink panther...I
mean, come on people...the fun is the costume. We want to see all the little
Spice Girls so we can giggle to ourselves after we shut the door!

Holly, who now only has to open her closet and pick out various pieces of the
ol' wardrobe for a costume...


--

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DrgnflyDsn

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<<What is *with* these kids? This is the first year I've gotten
costumeless trick-or-treaters, and it was really pissing me off. I was
"the mean lady" because I refused to give up any of my precious
chocolate to brats who couldn't be bothered to put the most token effort
into a costume. I mean, I'm not even asking for a "good" costume,
here... how hard is it to wrap yourself in a sheet, smear on some of
your mom's make-up, or make a mask out of a paper bag? Sorry, kids,
it's *Hallowe'en*, not "Get Candy For Nothing Day".

^v^ Abracadaver ^v^>>

I want to make sure the un-costumed crowd that didn't even make the effort of
any kind of costume don't come back to my house. I Keep Three buckets at the
door. The first is filled with cool toys, prizes and candy. If a costume is
exceptional I hand out from this bucket. Bucket number two is for the average
dressed crowd. They get candy and maybe some cool stickers. Bucket number
three is reserved for the annoying and the un-costumed. It contains boxes of
raisins. I am going to add little boxes of dried prunes to this bucket next
year!
I had to be a bit more generous this year. It was pouring rain and very cold.

Ronda
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Anomalee7

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poiso...@aol.com.borg (PoisonTear) wrote:

>*sigh* I had 3 kids show up at my house.
>Only three. I could not believe it.


I know the feeling. I was at my friend's aunt's house in Huntington (sp?)
Beach, CA. They had ^maybe^ 5 T-or-T'ers. I thought that was ^so^ weird, here
we usually get tons of kids. I had wanted to go Trick or Treating myself, but
we figured my friend and I are prolly too old and people would just give us
dirty looks if we did go, so I dressed up to hand out candy, and no one saw my
costume <sob!>.
However, I saw an ^adorable^ little boy at Disneyland the day before Halloween,
he was about 2yrs old and he was a little Dracula, it was the cutest thing I've
ever seen, he looked so pleased w/ himself to be in costume, it was prolly his
first one. I wanted to take picture to show the fang gang at school, "see?!
^This^ is the only way to pull of the vampire look, be 2yrs old"

~Anomalee
went on the Haunted Mansion ride at least 30 times...know the script, song
included, by heart...
^"^ ^"^ ^"^ ^"^ ^"^ ^"^ ^"^ ^"^ ^"^ ^"^ ^"^ ^"^ ^"^ ^"^ ^''^
Ľxł of goth
"here they come with their makeup on
as lovely as the clouds, come and see them"~The London Suede


Serendipitous Spice

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poiso...@aol.com.borg (PoisonTear) wrote:
>*sigh* I had 3 kids show up at my house.
>Only three. I could not believe it.

i wasn't home for most of the evening, but apparently we only had 2 groups
of kids show up at our house. i left at about 7.45 and one kid had shown up
by that time... the worst part is, i was home alone and didn't think we had
any candy (my mom had bought some but i didn't know where it was) plus i was
half-naked trying to get ready to go out so i couldn't answer the door. i
felt pretty bad. my mom says a group of 3 kids showed up at about 8pm, and
that was it. pathetic! (granted, we live on a street with no kids, but
usually we get at least 10 or so groups!)

love and light,
~*~Carly


surly gurly

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On Sun, 01 Nov 1998 09:12:34 -0800, AngelDye <ange...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

snipped-

just
>what ever you guys do.. Only go see John Carpenters VAMPIRES for the
>costumes. Do not expect acting, cus you won't find it in this movie.

-Oh, I think James Wood's never changing smirk was certainly of
Oscar caliber, yeesh. But as far as costumes go, did you notice the
priest was wearing both suspenders & a belt? Were his pants except-
ionally heavy?

At least I only paid the matinee price. Yet another vampire movie
that truly Sucks...
Melisa


mor...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <19981101075445...@ng18.aol.com>,
poiso...@aol.com.borg (PoisonTear) wrote:

<snip>
... do we get ourselves all worked up
> over Halloween, and then we all wind up
> cancelling our plans and moping in front of
> our monitors? Does this happen every year on agf?
> ;Åž


I haven't been on agf for long, but as for the rest of the
Halloween lovers I've known: FUCK YES! You know I'm
very sorry for some people who really had no choice
(and it sucks, since it sounds like a good many had
kitties put down, my goodness. I know the bummer, two
of ours went this past year and another had an absess.)
but come on! I've known so many people who
(excuse me) fucking flaked on me throughout the years
until I finally just said "Screw this shit. I'm just
going with my cousin(s) from now on." And even THEN
I'd hear bellyaching from people who didn't fucking
plan ahead. If Halloween is that important to someone
they don't just hope for the best instead of planning
in advance for Goth's sake!

And the thing that really pisses me off is in fact the
complaining and the moping when one could smell Samhain
coming back in September and didn't do a damn thing
about it from then on. As it turns out people not only
flake on their friends they flake on themselves and they
expect a fucking shoulder to cry on afterwards? Well, cry
me a river, indeed. Some kiddies don't even have the priviledge
to carve a damn pumpkin let alone weep on a keyboard.

Anyway, now Halloween is over and I'm glad to say I didn't
get a bagful of rocks. So for all of the needless sob stories
I've heard tonight, guess what, you have ONE WHOLE YEAR to think
about your "pathetic halloween" and try and improve or conjure
up something better to do before the next one comes around. If
that isn't enough time you just might want to tune your violins
a bit to sound more convincing. Frankly, I'm not impressed with
more than a few of these performances.

Morella
*who refuses to rant unless she REALLY feels the
need*

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I just want to say:
YOU FUCKING GO! Keep on doing it! It pisses the hell out of me, too.
DON'T give candy to ANYONE who doesn't dress up in at least some
freeking nose-glasses. Jeez! How the hell hard is that? And you know
what? You're not the only one. This is why I've discovered at my
great age (which we will not go into detail) I can get away with
trick or treating because people like the costumes and they damn
well deserve SOMETHING for the ten to thirty bucks they shell out
(as well as serving out the candy). But I know a lot of people
get intimidated that if they don't give out the candy anyway they'll
get tricked, so follow your gut. (just a sidenote)

Morella
*who didn't have an INKLING of self-consciousness this year
after two guys in costumes towered over her along the way*


In article <2956-363...@newsd-104.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
cadav...@webtv.net (Abracadaver) wrote:


> Holly Jones wrote:
> >I live in a dorm, and the sorority girls brought in all the little ones
> the other night. I would have liked it, but you know what...THEY DIDN"T
> EVEN DRESS UP!!! They just came around to mooch candy! Arggh!

> ~~~~~~~~


>
> What is *with* these kids? This is the first year I've gotten
> costumeless trick-or-treaters, and it was really pissing me off. I was
> "the mean lady" because I refused to give up any of my precious
> chocolate to brats who couldn't be bothered to put the most token effort
> into a costume. I mean, I'm not even asking for a "good" costume,
> here... how hard is it to wrap yourself in a sheet, smear on some of
> your mom's make-up, or make a mask out of a paper bag? Sorry, kids,
> it's *Hallowe'en*, not "Get Candy For Nothing Day".
>
> ^v^ Abracadaver ^v^

> (whose apartment, strangely enough, *didn't* get egged last night...)
>
> Napalm Tree http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/napalm_tree
> GlitterGoth 101 http://members.tripod.com/~Abracadaver
>
>

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Just thought of a good idea. Get some candy that you'll enjoy.
(Pixie sticks would be the easiest.) Empty the candy carefully
out of the wrapper and either put in a note or a tissue or nothing,
just as long as it goes in their bag without notice and without a
real treat. You can put these "tricks" aside especially for the
trick-or-treaters who don't wear anything. (Just don't get any
ideas about poison or whatever. That would ruin it. The absense
of candy will make the statement, or the note that says "Yeah,
right." in the wrapper will.) Or you can just toss them a penny.
(Or your two cents?)

Morella


In article <19981101181351...@ng83.aol.com>,
lulu...@aol.com (Luluwhite) wrote:
> cadaverdog wrote


>
> >
> >What is *with* these kids? This is the first year I've gotten
> >costumeless trick-or-treaters, and it was really pissing me off. I was
> >"the mean lady" because I refused to give up any of my precious
> >chocolate to brats who couldn't be
>

> snipp- I'm sorry but I find this terribly amusing- aspecially since I'd wager,
> ALL of us could go trick or treeting withOUT costumes and be totally accepted
> as having put much thought into our outfits! I remember a kid who went trick
or
> treeting with a paper plate- at least its something!
>
> Mare
>
>

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rkm...@sprog.auc.dk

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Luluwhite wrote:
>
> I can't be the only one- thought I'd start the sobbing first!
>
> This pathetic lack of life rant brought to you by the social pariah,
>

Oh, you too. I was invited to a party at my RPG society, but had to go home
to my parents to pick up my stuff, since I moved house this weekend. None of
my old freinds live there anymore, so I ended up watching 'meet the Feebles',
and went to bed at 2.30, and had to get up 6.45 to move ... I have no life.

Rune
A Goth Racoon

Marjorie Peck

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Anomalee7 wrote:

> poiso...@aol.com.borg (PoisonTear) wrote:
>
> >*sigh* I had 3 kids show up at my house.
> >Only three. I could not believe it.
>

> I know the feeling. I was at my friend's aunt's house in Huntington (sp?)
> Beach, CA. They had ^maybe^ 5 T-or-T'ers. I thought that was ^so^ weird, here
> we usually get tons of kids. I had wanted to go Trick or Treating myself, but
> we figured my friend and I are prolly too old and people would just give us
> dirty looks if we did go, so I dressed up to hand out candy, and no one saw my
> costume <sob!>.
> However, I saw an ^adorable^ little boy at Disneyland the day before Halloween,
> he was about 2yrs old and he was a little Dracula, it was the cutest thing I've
> ever seen, he looked so pleased w/ himself to be in costume, it was prolly his
> first one. I wanted to take picture to show the fang gang at school, "see?!
> ^This^ is the only way to pull of the vampire look, be 2yrs old"

I think the best costumes I saw were a 9 year old girl dressed as Dorothy (WoO) and
she really looked like her, and a kid in a Scream costume, which in itself is not
that impressive, but as the said kid was about a foot and a half tall, it was
pretty funny.

-Marjorie


AngelDye

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re: pepper ann..

HEY!!! i love Pepper Ann!!! she just kicks ass!!! I also like that one
called RECESS with the lil' "i'm tough as nails" gothy girl..

cartoons rock!
Becca
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Ellen Milne

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In article <363EA3...@chickmail.com> , Heather Holder
<act...@chickmail.com> wrote:

>Merciful wrote:
>>
>> Thus spake lulu...@aol.com (Luluwhite):
>>
>> >woohoo! Whick turns this into the ...worst trick or treet ya ever got- poll!!!
>>
>> Apples.
>> Blah.
>
>A pencil. Pretty cool, huh? :P
>
Bible verses and a toothbrush!


Luluwhite

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filigree wrote


>>But seriously- on Pepper Ann (yes, I AM that pathetic!)
>
>Ok, I'm feeling clueless, what is that?

Pepper Ann Pepper ann- much too cool for 7th grade- pepper ann shes like one in
a MILLION! (mure fun if ya sing Carol ann carol ann-)

um...its um...on "one saturday morning on um, abc- its um- a saturday morning
cartoon. *blink blink*


Mare

President of the Lifeless Goths club

Luluwhite

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ronda wrote


>Bucket number
>three is reserved for the annoying and the un-costumed. It contains boxes of
>raisins

woohoo! Whick turns this into the ...worst trick or treet ya ever got- poll!!!

The Cornerstone.
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the Gruamach

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Meanwhile, back at the ranch, our intrepid hero yo...@cjnetworks.com
(Yosa) scribbled


>OK, here goes. Any of you have people do this to you?
>
>Well, I knew you had costumes, and wouldn't be wearing them all, so
>you should spend tons of time letting me come to your house and get
>ready and try on everything you own- and why isn't it my size? Oh, and
>these are my friends, i have told them how nice you are, and they have
>been dying to see all of your costumes, too. So, they could get
>costumes, too right?

Well, the only one who did that was my best friend.
See, I still had his kilt, and he wanted it back.
He's not a goth, but had been saying that "someday I'm just gonna let
you goth me all up and see how it looks."
So I hand him the kilt, he asks if I've got anything to do, I say no.
"Ok, then... do me."
After half hour of bad jokes, I started dressing him up. I actually
had fun, but I suppose it's a totally different thing when it's your
best friend.

But yes, in the past (like at sci/fi, fantasy cons) I get that all the
time.

Charles/the Gruamach, http://home.stlnet.com/~gothcop
The St. Louis Perkygoff, dammit!
Alt.Gothic's own Garibaldi and expecting DaddyGoth

ALPHAnyx

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<snip wack and RUDE "friends">

Only my dearest and most intiment of freinds would ask this of me... because
they know I love them so much and I wouldn't mind it ( because I love them so
much). You can be polite and do what Miss Manners advises and say " I'm sorry,
but I just can't". If they keep on pestering you, reply to each question:" I'm
afrid that's impossible". You don't have to give ANY reason or excuse, because
Miss Manners said so. I do this with people all the time and it works like a
charm. However, if some one is a real turkey, I snarl out :" you're really
impose-ing on me".... that works even better..

forgive my spelling errors!,
Alpha
"blessed are those who laugh at themselves -for they shall never cease to be
amused"

Merciful

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Thus spake lulu...@aol.com (Luluwhite):

>woohoo! Whick turns this into the ...worst trick or treet ya ever got- poll!!!

Apples.
Blah.

Sarah

* . @ . + . . + . . + . . *
And I, holding my head in horror, cried: "Sweet Spirit, + . .
what souls are these who run through this black haze?" --Dante, The Inferno + . *
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/1069/home.html . * . + . *
* + . . * @ . . +

Heather Holder

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Merciful wrote:
>
> Thus spake lulu...@aol.com (Luluwhite):
>
> >woohoo! Whick turns this into the ...worst trick or treet ya ever got- poll!!!
>
> Apples.
> Blah.

A pencil. Pretty cool, huh? :P

Heather
--
************
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act...@chickmail.com
http://members.xoom.com/heather77

"In the opera which we call love, the libretto is almost nothing."
-- Victor Hugo

Trystan L. Bass

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cadav...@webtv.net (Abracadaver) wrote:
> What is *with* these kids? This is the first year I've gotten
> costumeless trick-or-treaters, and it was really pissing me off. I was
> "the mean lady" because I refused to give up any of my precious
> chocolate to brats who couldn't be bothered to put the most token effort
> into a costume.


Are you really talking about *kids*? Cause for the past few years, we've
been getting teenagers in no costumes, showing up at the door on Halloween
saying "trick or treat". Sorry, buckos, I'm saving the candy for the
little ones. I've never seen a kid under 13 uncostumed & trying to
trick-or-treat.

Sheesh, at least when I was in high school & attempted to trick-or-treat,
I'd wear a full costume, just so I'd blend in with the little kids! We
*knew* we were too old, but as long as we were in the spirit of the
holiday, no-one complained or gave us dirty looks. These days, it seems
like the teenagers want a handout and have no shame about it! Makes me
feel all old & crotchedy just thinkin' about it!!

--T.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Trystan L. Bass @-->--- www.toreadors.com
a.g.f.faq.chick sf bay area costumer's guild
gothic martha stewart 90210 of goth

Trystan L. Bass

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mor...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> Anyway, now Halloween is over and I'm glad to say I didn't
> get a bagful of rocks. So for all of the needless sob stories
> I've heard tonight, guess what, you have ONE WHOLE YEAR to think
> about your "pathetic halloween" and try and improve or conjure
> up something better to do before the next one comes around.


Well, not meaning to jump on the rant bandwagon, but I have a related one
of my own....

Why doesn't anyone just throw a party?

It's the sure-fire cure if you don't want to spend a holiday (Halloween,
xmas, valentines, anything) alone at home. Throwing a party is some work,
but it can be very, very rewarding. Plus, you guarentee that you'll have
people around you & a festive time too!

Good lord, my boi & I put several months worth of work in to each of our
Halloween parties. We've collected years worth of props and decorations for
them. We spend up to $200 on perishables every time. But it's so damn
much fun!!! All of our friends look forward to it, and we really get a
lot out if it personally. And we *always* make new friends because of it,
either thru friend-of-a-friend or thru advertising for the party (I've met
several really cool net.goth types IRL because of these parties). The
rewards really are worth the effort!

Now, you don't have to go to our extremes to throw a party. All it really
takes is some food, drink, music, and about 10 people. Invite them at
least week in advance. Make it potluck if you're really on a budget, but
do remember that parties can be done well (i.e., you provide food & drink)
and still be inexpensive at the same time. Have a couple of movies to
watch or games to play (even silly kids games like CandyLand are fun w/a
drink in your hand ;-). Play music that most people there will like (mix
a tape in advance even). Dim the lights for atmosphere. Ta-da -- you're
having a party!

You'll never be lonely on a holiday again, unless you really want to be.

--T.
(who, sometime, somewhere, would like to *go* to a
party instead of always having to put them on herself ;-)

Abracadaver

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Trystan wrote (re: my bitching about costumeless TOTers):

>Are you really talking about *kids*?

Yup. Like, in the 7-13 range.

>Sheesh, at least when I was in high school & attempted to
trick-or-treat, I'd wear a full costume, just so I'd blend in with the
little kids! We *knew* we were too old, but as long as we were in the
spirit of the holiday, no-one complained or gave us dirty looks.

~~~~~~~~

Well, as far as I'm concerned, TOTing is for anybody who wants to dress
up and tromp all over creation. I don't care if the person is 75-- if
they've got a costume, I'll be happy to give them candy. No costume,
though, and they're not getting a damn thing-- I don't care *how* young
they are.

^v^ Abracadaver ^v^
(nigh-unto 25, and still TOTing...)

Xiolablue6

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lulu...@aol.com (Luluwhite) wrote:
>woohoo! Whick turns this into the ...worst trick or treet ya ever got-
>poll!!!
>

definitley raisins..i *hate* raisins!
oh and when i was like 8, dressed up as princess leia and some old guy with a
fake knife came out screaming at me :(
~xiolablue
co-darkmistress of the sinister popgoth bouncy strangething organization
*<http://members.aol.com/Xiolablue6/>* "she no jellybean, she a jemima ho-ho.
wish away wish away... " ~blur

PoisonTear

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>Whick turns this into the ...worst trick or treet ya ever got-
>poll!!!

Beats and carrots. Beats and carrots that my friends
threw out of their bags and into my room, where I
found them 4 months later. ick.

.:glitter.:.and.:.glamour:.
.:Ashly. :.72.:.of.:.Goth:.
.:http://come.to/chinafeet:.


AngelDye

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hehe.. not really lame.. but- tooth brushes!!

Becca
now i wanna find someone to hand out condoms...

Becca
--
-:*:*:pi of goth:*:*:-
-:*Tomato Of VeggieGoth*:-
--did you just grab my ass?--

Merciful wrote:
>
> Thus spake lulu...@aol.com (Luluwhite):
>
> >woohoo! Whick turns this into the ...worst trick or treet ya ever got- poll!!!
>
> Apples.
> Blah.

Christiane Knight

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Yosa wrote:

> OK, here goes. Any of you have people do this to you?
<snip clothes borrowing - I don't lend mine anymore since a "friend"
borrowed my fave veil in April and STILL hasn't given it back>

>
> Can you do my make-up too? I want to put my hair up- you are so good
> with hair. I know you have hairpins and hairspray and combs I can wear
> in it. Can I have a victorian do with fancy combs and then wear one
> of your gowns, and a corset and do you have shoes in my size? Oh, and
> I need hose, too. Can you alter this for me really quick? Why not? You
> can sew, and it doesn't fit me right!

Picture this: Here I am, Halloween night, trying to arrange this huge
party, get alcohol, put together a costume, do my hair, spiff up the
practice space. The requests I get?
Can you tease my hair up like yours? (mine took 2 hours).
Will you do my make up? Yours always looks so good... can you do mine
just like that? (from no less than 12 different people, including my
Boi.)
Can you make me an electrical tape bodice/gauntlets/spats?
Will you wrap me in chains? (heehee)
Then it's ... "oh, I have to go and pick people up, sorry I can't help
you get ready for the party... see you in a bit!"
Sigh. I sympathize.
At least the party was a success...

Christiane
still cleaning up from the festivities
Oh, yeah, and I now have the title of "Gothic DenMother" in our scene.
--
"and though I put my elf-locks back, I am veiled from the waking world
I am lost in my own landscapes... I am dreaming"
- from "and now I am thirty" The House of Three Ravens:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/workshop/2328/index.html

vit...@hotmail.com

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And Trystan spake the words so true:

> Why doesn't anyone just throw a party?
>
> It's the sure-fire cure if you don't want to spend a holiday (Halloween,
> xmas, valentines, anything) alone at home.

I second this entirely- and a great theme party
can be cheap!

In the past year my roomates and I have had:

* "Valentine Making Party" This was easy- all
you need are old magazines to cut up, space to
work in, snacks and music. Everyone brings
supplies to share. A caveat- alchohol and x-actos
don't mix.

* "A Flag Day Pageant" We forced everyone to
compete in pipe cleaner tiaras and thrift store
gowns - we asked them demeaning pageant
questions and judged their "talents". We also
screened an anti-pageant documentary. Served
booze, but food was all celery and carrots
(contestants had to keep their weight down!). At
the end of the evening we crowned a queen and gave
him a huge bouquet of dollar store flowers and a
bag of Twizzlers

* "Back to School" This was also a cheap party to
throw. We served a 'school lunch' consisting of
sheet pizza, tater tots and fruit cocktail. Served
fruit punch and soda (but hid beer in the
bathroom and on the porch) and had tons of Little
Debbies for dessert. We made 'lockers' and lined
the stairwell with them. Guests could decorate the
lockers with some Seventeens and Tiger Beats we
cut apart (I used an old Star Hits). Lined the
bathroom with butcher paper and left some
markers in there for grafitti. The best part was
that people came in character- we had all the high
school archtypes: the jock, the cheerleader, the
stoner, the Catholic schoolgirl (me), the
depressed poet, and of course a nerd complete with
physics textbook and D&D manual.
I should post the 'yearbook photos' we took.

* "Party Like It's 999"- we were thinking about
a Viking New Years party, but maybe this is too
strange. We'll see.

so anyways, I guess what I'm trying to say is-
think up a bizarre idea and implement it as
cheaply as possible. If you are enthusiastic
enough about the idea, others cannot help but be
swept along in your tide of insanity!

Vitarre
apologies for the grammer & spelling

L. A. Cassidy

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Xiolablue6 <xiola...@aol.comwishaway>
> definitley raisins..i *hate* raisins!

Everyone dressed as a spice girl who came to our door got raisins and
apples. I remember how much I hate them, and my mom bought them (damn her
good intentions :P) so i had fun with them. Like 3 little packets each.
*cackle*

Lisa
ad...@iol.ie

"When you get up in the morning, how do you decide which shade of black to
wear?" (shallow grave)


ChemGrrrl

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Abracadaver <cadav...@webtv.net> wrote:

: into a costume. I mean, I'm not even asking for a "good" costume,


: here... how hard is it to wrap yourself in a sheet, smear on some of
: your mom's make-up, or make a mask out of a paper bag? Sorry, kids,
: it's *Hallowe'en*, not "Get Candy For Nothing Day".

Ahh. My answer to that is to buy one bag O'crap candy. Something
non-chocolate that most folks don't really care for, like cheap sticks of
gum, or those awful carmel on a stick things. I give kids that are
dressed up the good candy and the kids that aren't the crap candy and if
they make a comment I tell them why they can't have 2 snickers bars like
their friends.
*nod*
I stayed home for holloween too. I got all dressed up, and went
though 20 lbs of dry ice making fog that whisped out as I open the door
to hand out candy. It was fun.

shechemist

Serendipitous Spice

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Merciful wrote in message <363e8f7d...@news.doit.wisc.edu>...

>Thus spake lulu...@aol.com (Luluwhite):
>
>>woohoo! Whick turns this into the ...worst trick or treet ya ever got-
poll!!!
>
>Apples.
>Blah.


i don't understand people who insist on giving out things like fruit or
baked goods. even if the kid did want to eat the apple, no parent in their
right mind would ever allow their kid to do so. hello, aren't razor blades
in apples like *the* most cliché trick in the book??

love and light,
~*~Carly

- Missy Twigglet -

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Nov 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/3/98
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Ellen Milne wrote:
>
> In article <363EA3...@chickmail.com> , Heather Holder
> <act...@chickmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Merciful wrote:
> >>
> >> Thus spake lulu...@aol.com (Luluwhite):
> >>
> >> >woohoo! Whick turns this into the ...worst trick or treet ya ever got- poll!!!
> >>
> >> Apples.
> >> Blah.
> >
> >A pencil. Pretty cool, huh? :P
> >
> Bible verses and a toothbrush!

I got a handful of bird seed when I was younger :*(
And this year I went to *one* house, and the guy gave us caramel corn
that tasted like paint thinner, gin and nuclear sludge-waste.

--
Missy Twigglet
***
http://members.tripod.com/~MissyTwigglet

The quote I live by:

"I'm not even supposed to be here today"

- Dante, Clerks

- Missy Twigglet -

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StormWillow wrote:
>
> PoisonTear <poiso...@aol.com.borg> wrote in article
> <19981101162934...@ng78.aol.com>...

> > >or make a mask out of a paper bag?
> >
> > *giggle* My friend went around with some
> > of his friends with paper bags on their heads.
> > They wrote what they were suppose to be
> > above the cut out eye parts. I thought it was
> > cute.
>
> nothing can top this... my friend didn't have a costume, so we looked
> around our house, and came up with a black hefty bag. my mom cut a hole
> for his head and arms, and he put that on, using the yellow
> bag-ties/bag-closers to tie the thing under his crotch so it would stay
> down. then he took a plastic supermarket bag and put it on his head, tying
> it under his head. it was windy that night, so the bag on his head stood
> straight up from the wind.
>
> he said he was either a windsock, a human trashbag, or a human condom.

*on the ground going into convulsions from a massive fit of laughter*
That's what I'm gonna be next year, a windsock! *lol*!

SaraiCat

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Nov 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/3/98
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Luluwhite wrote:

> woohoo! Whick turns this into the ...worst trick or treet ya ever got- poll!!!

A little xian booklet on the Evils of Halloween.

:(

-Sarai

--
"We are all sealed in our own little melancholy atmospheres,
like planets, and revolving around the sun, our common but
distant desire." ~Kerouac

Basingstoke

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vit...@hotmail.com wrote:

> * "Party Like It's 999"- we were thinking about
> a Viking New Years party, but maybe this is too
> strange. We'll see.

Ohmigod.
I think you just gave us a theme for the house New Years party.

Ale quaffing contests (throw it at yer face, see how much lands in yer
mouth!), fake fur hats, Valkyries (memememe!), smiting!

Oh, that is too good! Thank you!

Basinke, captivated by gold breastplates and long blond wigs....and
piercing soprano voices of course!

Trystan L. Bass

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icp...@blarg.net wrote:
> What fabulous ideas! I've always been a dud at throwing parties...can't come
> up with ideas and worry too much (you can't imagine how much I fretted about
> inviting six people over to watch a WWF pay-per-view last spring!), and I
> refuse to hold the typical (for most of the people I know, anyway) "have a
> bunch of booze and just let everybody get blasted" shindig. Sharing concepts
> like this is really helpful in getting my ideas going...
>
> (Y'all see what's comin', don'tcha?)
>
> Perhaps a web site of ideas from our hostesses (and hosts) with the mostesses
> would be useful?


Well, *someday* I'll add an "entertaining" section to Gothic Martha
Stewart.... heck, I'd love to write a book about party planning. I've been
doing it for myself & others (nonprofessionally, of course) since I was 13
years old....

Yet another project festering in my head..... But I digress.

I have one disagreement w/Ms. Martha about parties -- fancy food is *not* a
requirement. All I've ever done is one or maybe two prepared dishes, and
the rest is veggies, dips, cheese, & the like (all stuff you can get from
the deli section & put on pretty platters).

A minimum of entertainment *is* necessary IMO, whether it's well-chosen
music/movies or a game or cookie-baking or readings or something. It
distracts people into having a good time, and shy folks (like me!) don't
feel pressured to be chatty and overly social. It's also really good if
you have a mixed crowd of people who don't know each other.

Holidays are good party-throwing practice, because activities can be themed
to fit the holiday. Easter-egg decorating (which works equally well for
Christians & Pagans ;-), Valentine-card making, xmas tree trimming,
Halloween cookie decorating or pumpkin-carving, anything. Gets people
together easily.

--T.

greensea

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Kathryn Quinn wrote:

> I had a *great* day yesterday - spent all day waiting for
> the vet to phone, and then had to take Fenton to be put down,
> as he turned out to be FeLV positive. By that time, he had
> become so anaemic that his tongue was -white-, and he could
> no longer eat or stand up. For a cat that was so full of
> beans, it was heartbreaking to see.

I'm so sorry. I went through the same thing w/ my dog about
2 years ago. It was the hardest thing in the world to watch
my golden retriever too weak to smile, but he tried... :\

*HUGE snifflehugs and condolences*

Where's Christabel with her pet eulogy knowledge? :(

> So after having a good cry, I discovered that Urban Decay
> makeup isn't very waterproof.

Try Marcella Borghese eyeliner. Very waterproof.

--
gree...@my-dejanews.com
"totally void of hate, but killing me just the same"

Yosa

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Nov 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/4/98
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On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 10:06:52 -0400, Christiane Knight
<thr33...@yahoo.com> mentioned:

>Picture this: Here I am, Halloween night, trying to arrange this huge
>party, get alcohol, put together a costume, do my hair, spiff up the
>practice space. The requests I get?
>Can you tease my hair up like yours? (mine took 2 hours).
>Will you do my make up? Yours always looks so good... can you do mine
>just like that? (from no less than 12 different people, including my
>Boi.)
>Can you make me an electrical tape bodice/gauntlets/spats?
>Will you wrap me in chains? (heehee)
>Then it's ... "oh, I have to go and pick people up, sorry I can't help
>you get ready for the party... see you in a bit!"
>Sigh. I sympathize.
>At least the party was a success...
>
>Christiane

Yes! That is exactly it!
Oh, and the people who say " Well, I know it is Halloween and all, so
you probably don't have time to make me a costume, but you have
something I can borrow, right?"

Grrr...
I am glad I stayed home this Halloween. I feel much better now after a
few days rest. I haven't been answering the phone at home for the last
few months, and I think it might actually be time to put it back on
the hook.

Yosa, glad to hear other people have the same problem.
__________________________________________________________________
"Memory is the seamstress, and a capricious one at that." V. Woolf
Web page and catalog: http://www.cjnetworks.com/~yosa/catalog.html

icp...@blarg.net

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Nov 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/4/98
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<snip tons of great party ideas>

What fabulous ideas! I've always been a dud at throwing parties...can't come
up with ideas and worry too much (you can't imagine how much I fretted about
inviting six people over to watch a WWF pay-per-view last spring!), and I
refuse to hold the typical (for most of the people I know, anyway) "have a
bunch of booze and just let everybody get blasted" shindig. Sharing concepts
like this is really helpful in getting my ideas going...

(Y'all see what's comin', don'tcha?)

Perhaps a web site of ideas from our hostesses (and hosts) with the mostesses
would be useful?

Ice Princess

======================================================================
Ice Princess icp...@blarg.net http://www.blarg.net/~icprncs/
Durian of VeggieGoth "Go-to" gal for Atomic Hyrax Games
"Measure twice, kill once." --my boyfriend on suicide

Tamera J. Ferro

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SaraiCat (sem...@is9.nyu.edu) wrote:

: Luluwhite wrote:
:
: > woohoo! Whick turns this into the ...worst trick or treet ya ever got- poll!!!

: A little xian booklet on the Evils of Halloween.

: :(

oHMGOD! i've GOTTEN that one! we made a xian hate tree out of it in my old
apt though--branches in the corner, and we tied all the hate pamphlets to
it. it was pretty.

-ratty-
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ante\pathy

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On 1 Nov 1998, XloreleiX wrote:
>
> it's an ABC Saturday morning cartoon. She reminds me of a female "Doug," sorta.
> Umm...not that *I* ever watch it, of course!
>
shameful admission time: i'm the queen of saturday mornings....
my picks for this season, which is hte slimmest yet, are Men In Black
(very cute!!) and Mad Jack......

ante||pathy

"sometimes life imitates art. sometimes, however, it imitates
professional wrestling."


Marjorie Peck

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<snip party stuff>
I just wanted to throw out that the best party I think I've ever been to was a
Coloring Party. The hostess printed up a whole bunch of pretty pictures, sans color
and invited a huge amount of people over to her house for coloring. She had
crayons, and people brought color pencil, markers, and water colors. She had chips,
and other people brought sodas and stuff. It was really fun to sit around with a
bunch of adults, chatting and coloring. I think we had The Young Ones on in the
background.

-Marjorie, thinking about throwing one of these someday


Gwen Garrison

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icp...@blarg.net wrote:

:What fabulous ideas! I've always been a dud at throwing parties...can't come


: up with ideas and worry too much (you can't imagine how much I fretted about
: inviting six people over to watch a WWF pay-per-view last spring!), and I
: refuse to hold the typical (for most of the people I know, anyway) "have a
:bunch of booze and just let everybody get blasted" shindig. Sharing concepts
: like this is really helpful in getting my ideas going...

Yeah, a good theme party is wonderful, but no matter how great the theme &
the execution, eventually you need a buncha people who like each other and
like hanging out with each other. (Alcohol helps this bunch from sitting
around staring at each other, IME.)

However...

For Halloween a few years ago, back in Pittsburgh, my housemates & I put
on a "Victorian brothel"-type party. The plan was (though we ended up way
off schedule) :

--Full Victorian dinner - 7 courses, lots of aspic, for about 14 of us,
all in full costumes. 5-7 pm

--"Gallery Walk" - open the doors to about 20 more people, do drinks &
wander about the house, where my housemate's art-major friends were
displaying their work. 7-9 pm

--Open the doors to everyone with any urge to attend, and let the evening
degenerate.

Very little went as planned (I got incredibly cranky when, 5 minutes
before dinner was supposed to start, after I'd put the sewing machine
away, after being reassured multiple times that my costume was done so I
could run other errands, I picked up my bodice to find that it was still
only pinned together...), but it ended up being an amazing party.

Joel, as Madam of the place (yards & yards of obnoxious fuschia,
turquoise, and black plaid silk taffeta) was an amazing hostess, and the
rest of us "flowers of the garden" had a lovely time making friends... :-)

I miss having a whole house to play in...

--Gwench

...just call me Iris...

just julia

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Trystan L. Bass <trys...@NOTtoreadors.com> wrote:

: mor...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
:> Anyway, now Halloween is over and I'm glad to say I didn't
:> get a bagful of rocks. So for all of the needless sob stories
:> I've heard tonight, guess what, you have ONE WHOLE YEAR to think
:> about your "pathetic halloween" and try and improve or conjure
:> up something better to do before the next one comes around.


: Well, not meaning to jump on the rant bandwagon, but I have a related one
: of my own....

: Why doesn't anyone just throw a party?

Yeah!

I've thrown halloween parties three years running. This year my room mate
(who is similarly halloween obsessed) took over the apt of a bunch of
friends of ours to co-host our shindig. We spent $40 on booze (beer and
hard cider) and about $30 on snacky products (chips, dips, whips^H^H^H^H,
veggies, candy!). Split 8 ways, that's nothing. We invited a whole lotta
people, pooled makeup resources (OK, I hauled over a bag full of my makeup
because I'm a ho), and went to town. The first hour was awkward, as
usual, especially since costumes were still being finished. However, it
was faboo in the end, and went till after 2am.

Basically, get food, booze, and a boombox type thing with some decent (but
not too loud) music. Move furniture if necessary, and sweep the floor.
Invite over a whole bunch of friends (if you're tense about attendence,
force at least a half dozen people to show with death threats). Wait,
twitching nervously, and a party will happen.

: lot out if it personally. And we *always* make new friends because of it,

Yeah. This year, a friend of mine invited her women's studies section,
which lead to a slew of hot queer babes parading through our house, which
I think is always very nice.

: (who, sometime, somewhere, would like to *go* to a

: party instead of always having to put them on herself ;-)

Yeah, sometimes I'm too twitchy to actually enjoy my parties. Oh well.

j
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evidence of a poetic nature, do not forget that actions speak louder than
words." --Fran Lebowitz

Lisa Van Every

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Gwen Garrison wrote:

> Yeah, a good theme party is wonderful, but no matter how great the theme &
> the execution, eventually you need a buncha people who like each other and
> like hanging out with each other. (Alcohol helps this bunch from sitting
> around staring at each other, IME.)

I don't object to alcohol at parties. I do object to parties that are
about *nothing* more than alcohol (and you and I both know of parties in
our crowd that are like that... :) ). Those tend to degenerate into
one group being loud, silly and drunk, and another group hiding from the
loudness. Alcohol does make a useful social lubricant, but if nothing
else is going on I find the party becomes unpleasant for me (and IME,
often for at least some other people) after about an hour and a half.
That's why I appreciate the ideas for other things to revolve a party
around, particularly since I, as a virtual non-drinker, am utterly
clueless about how to handle having alcohol at a party, and will
generally fall back on not having it or having people bring their own so
that I don't make a mess of it.

And speaking as someone who has a party with a group of friends two or
three times a month, without alcohol, I know both how important it is to
have a group that likes hanging out, and also how non-vital alcohol is
to the enjoyment equation in the end. I'm not comfortable with people
who *need* to have alcohol to enjoy themselves, and if somebody chooses
not to come to a party I throw because I'm not serving it, then maybe
they're not the right fit for that party anyway. My hope is to throw
parties that don't *need* alcohol to work.

Ice Princess

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Ice Princess icp...@blarg.net http://www.blarg.net/~icprncs/
Durian of VeggieGoth "Go-to" gal for Atomic Hyrax Games

"...enabling the wearer to languish and despair to best advantage."
--unofficial motto of goth fashion

SaraiCat

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Tamera J. Ferro wrote:
>
> SaraiCat (sem...@is9.nyu.edu) wrote:
> : Luluwhite wrote:
> :
> : > woohoo! Whick turns this into the ...worst trick or treet ya ever got- poll!!!
>
> : A little xian booklet on the Evils of Halloween.
>
> : :(
>
> oHMGOD! i've GOTTEN that one! we made a xian hate tree out of it in my old
> apt though--branches in the corner, and we tied all the hate pamphlets to
> it. it was pretty.

LOL!

Actually, I got that particular pamphlet from this scary lady who was
very upset that my little cousin Meggy (nine years old at the time) was
dressed as Satan.

"Why are you dressed as the Devil?! Don't you know Jesus loves you?!"
Etc.

Heh heh.

-Sarai

greensea

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surly gurly wrote:

(okay, so this part was AngelDye--)
> >what ever you guys do.. Only go see John Carpenters
> >VAMPIRES for the costumes. Do not expect acting, cus you
> >won't find it in this movie.

Oh please. Did think you were actually going to get a
quality film out of this? :) My ex, his best friend, and I
had a superb time MST3King it all the way through.

"You pole-climbing, blood-sucking fashion victim!"
(forgive my inability to recall lines verbatim.)

When the camera angle and lighting actually allowed you
to see any detail, the costumes were great, yes. Especially
Valek's coat (Dark City meets International Male). Mmmmmmmm.

And when the vampies combusted in the sunlight, all 3 of us
simultaneously cringed and sobbed, "Nooooo!! Save the coat!
Save the dress!" Heh.

> -Oh, I think James Wood's never changing smirk was
> certainly of Oscar caliber, yeesh.

Definitely! ;>

And what about Sheryl Lee? "One actress needed. Must writhe
nakedly. Must twitch. Acting skills negotiable."

> But as far as costumes go, did you notice the priest was
> wearing both suspenders & a belt? Were his pants
> exceptionally heavy?

LOL! yes indeed. Talk about fashion sins! :)

> At least I only paid the matinee price. Yet another vampire
> movie that truly Sucks...

Eh. I paid $6.75 for it, and I'm not sorry. I was legitimately
entertained. Laughed my ass off the whole time.

--
gree...@my-dejanews.com
"while I wait for glue and tape, the pain! the pain! the pain!"

Grimbold

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greensea <gree...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:

>> But as far as costumes go, did you notice the priest was
>> wearing both suspenders & a belt? Were his pants
>> exceptionally heavy?
>
>LOL! yes indeed. Talk about fashion sins! :)

...um.... I sometimes do that and with even more than one belt, but
most of the time the suspenders are hanging down.

Damn it! You just need that extra support sometimes *sob* ;)

Mostly people just snap them back onto my but, I rather like it
though, I think it's a latent S&M part of me.

~Grimbold
SNAP SNAP !!!! :)

mor...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <trystNOT-ya0240800...@news.supernews.com>,
trys...@NOTtoreadors.com (Trystan L. Bass) wrote:

> Are you really talking about *kids*? Cause for the past few years, we've
> been getting teenagers in no costumes, showing up at the door on Halloween
> saying "trick or treat". Sorry, buckos, I'm saving the candy for the
> little ones. I've never seen a kid under 13 uncostumed & trying to
> trick-or-treat.
>
> Sheesh, at least when I was in high school & attempted to trick-or-treat,
> I'd wear a full costume, just so I'd blend in with the little kids! We
> *knew* we were too old, but as long as we were in the spirit of the
> holiday, no-one complained or gave us dirty looks. These days, it seems
> like the teenagers want a handout and have no shame about it! Makes me
> feel all old & crotchedy just thinkin' about it!!

Here, here! And as I've said before if ANY of you wish to trick-or-treat
just go right ahead! As long as you have a costume (preferably gownish
and not showing off a figure) THAT'S what's the candy-givers want to see!
Don't feel bad about it. This year someone made a comment about how I
was the height limit and then we eventually turned a corner where there
were two guys AT LEAST a head taller than I was.

Aaron Cometbus is either in or around his thirties and he still goes!

If you're really self-conscious babysit some tykes for the pleasure
and/or look into what neighborhoods are the best. My guess is you'll
only be turned away by %4-%10 of the people anyway, and that's always
a story to tell.

Many people were happy to see the classic sheet ghost this year, and
that was me!

Morella

mor...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <5263-363...@newsd-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
cadav...@webtv.net (Abracadaver) wrote:
> Trystan wrote (re: my bitching about costumeless TOTers):

>
> >Are you really talking about *kids*?
>
> Yup. Like, in the 7-13 range.

>
> >Sheesh, at least when I was in high school & attempted to
> trick-or-treat, I'd wear a full costume, just so I'd blend in with the
> little kids! We *knew* we were too old, but as long as we were in the
> spirit of the holiday, no-one complained or gave us dirty looks.
> ~~~~~~~~
>
> Well, as far as I'm concerned, TOTing is for anybody who wants to dress
> up and tromp all over creation. I don't care if the person is 75-- if
> they've got a costume, I'll be happy to give them candy. No costume,
> though, and they're not getting a damn thing-- I don't care *how* young
> they are.


DAMN STRAIT! That reminds me of a number of years back when we went to
the 7-11 for free slurpees (do they still give those out?) and I was
with a group of teens and we asked rather self-consciously if we could
get one. The man was very jolly and said "I don't care if you're 70!
As long as you've got a costume you can have one!" or something like
that. Ah, those were the days. The 7-11 slurpee was the pit stop
in the middle of trick-or-treating. Once there was some random youth
getting a case of beer and handed me one. I can't remember if I drank
the thing or not. Either that or I left it in my friends fridge.
>
> ^v^ Abracadaver ^v^
> (nigh-unto 25, and still TOTing...)--- right on!

greensea

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Grimbold wrote:

> greensea <gree...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
> > LOL! yes indeed. Talk about fashion sins! :)
>
> ...um.... I sometimes do that and with even more than one
> belt, but most of the time the suspenders are hanging down.
>
> Damn it! You just need that extra support sometimes *sob* ;)

Oh, no no no! *smoothes feathers* It's all about me saying
the wrong thing at the wrong time - my special knack as a
Sagittarian.

What I meant is that the Padre looked especially dorky in
the movie. I mean, I hardly know what's de rigueur for
priests this season, but somehow the suspenders didn't work
out with his priest getup...

greensea
(who thinks that suspenders, when done properly, can be
quite the attractive look)

AngelDye

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greensea wrote:

> Eh. I paid $6.75 for it, and I'm not sorry. I was legitimately
> entertained. Laughed my ass off the whole time.
>

hehe i paid 4.75.. and was only slightly entertained.. it prolly would
have been more fun if i had friends with, sure.. we do the MST thang
constantly. The guys at MST need to git thier hands on this one as soon
as possible.

Becca
who kept screaming.. "It's FATTY BALDWIN!!"
--
-:*:*:pi of goth:*:*:-
-:*Tomato Of VeggieGoth*:-
--did you just grab my ass?--


mor...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <71nraf$3...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>,

"Serendipitous Spice" <SilverH...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> Merciful wrote in message <363e8f7d...@news.doit.wisc.edu>...
> >Thus spake lulu...@aol.com (Luluwhite):
> >
> >>woohoo! Whick turns this into the ...worst trick or treet ya ever got-
> poll!!!
> >
> >Apples.
> >Blah.
>
> i don't understand people who insist on giving out things like fruit or
> baked goods. even if the kid did want to eat the apple, no parent in their
> right mind would ever allow their kid to do so. hello, aren't razor blades
> in apples like *the* most cliché trick in the book??

No, just the most cliche' urban legend. Like when all those people
admitted to finding a hypodermic needle in their can of Pepsi. Everyone
who said it was lying (except possibly the first person which I highly
doubt). Just scare tactics made up by people who either dislike Halloween
or already are confirmed busybodies.

BUT! Because the beans have already been spilled this is a good thing
to give to people who don't have costumes. They probably won't eat it
or won't be allowed to eat it, so it's just like giving them useless
junk.

Anyway I can't really remember what the worst treat was, probably
popcorn because I can't stand popcorn to begin with, but I have a
long list of the best treats.

RaZoRsLaVe

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hehe...i cried out "save the coat" when he burst into flames too...
and i noticed this, too...
all the "master" vampires were the goth ones....hehehe
at least i didnt pay to go see it....back doors make good free enterances..
candy kisses,
erika

Crimson SoulFire

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On Wed, 04 Nov 1998 21:47:03 GMT, jw...@interlog.com (Grimbold) wrote:

>Mostly people just snap them back onto my but, I rather like it
>though, I think it's a latent S&M part of me.
>
>~Grimbold
>SNAP SNAP !!!! :)

********
Grimbold! you naughty-naughty! *tsk tsk-ing and reaching stealthily
for your hanging-down suspenders*

~CSF

Ismene

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On 5 Nov 1998 00:12:47 GMT, razor...@aol.com (RaZoRsLaVe) scrawled:

>hehe...i cried out "save the coat" when he burst into flames too...
>and i noticed this, too...
>all the "master" vampires were the goth ones....hehehe

My comment upon that was "You can tell who the superior people
are; they're wearing black."
At the point when all the Masters rose out of the ground and
were silhouetted against the sun as they began walking, the friend
next to me said "That's what we look like walking through the mall."
(The theater was in a mall.)
The movie wasn't great, but it was fun. Having people there to
MST3k it makes all the difference.

Ismene

"Hey, nice boots."
*sweet smile.*
"No, thanks."


just julia

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Serendipitous Spice <SilverH...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

: i don't understand people who insist on giving out things like fruit or


: baked goods. even if the kid did want to eat the apple, no parent in their
: right mind would ever allow their kid to do so. hello, aren't razor blades

: in apples like *the* most cliche trick in the book??

Er..actually, no. The cases of 'poisoned' halloween candy which started
the fear were in two cases murder attempts by close relatives of the child
in question, and in one case an accidental drug overdose (small child
though heroin was pixie stick dust). No one has been found that has tried
to cause wide spread harm to children by poisoning candy or slipping
blades into apples or cookies. There have been a few cases of things
accidentally getting into home made stuffs (safety pins from child's
costume get tossed in with pile of post-halloween deitrus, and when found
are thought to be placed there maliciously, tinfoil that got stuck into
fudge, etc.), but yeah.

Grimbold

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<gree...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:

>Grimbold wrote:
>> greensea <gree...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>> > LOL! yes indeed. Talk about fashion sins! :)
>>
>> ...um.... I sometimes do that and with even more than one
>> belt, but most of the time the suspenders are hanging down.
>>
>> Damn it! You just need that extra support sometimes *sob* ;)

>Oh, no no no! *smoothes feathers* It's all about me saying
>the wrong thing at the wrong time - my special knack as a
>Sagittarian.

Well I'm a forgiving Virgo, so no harm done.

>What I meant is that the Padre looked especially dorky in
>the movie. I mean, I hardly know what's de rigueur for
>priests this season, but somehow the suspenders didn't work
>out with his priest getup...

I have to agree there, he did look a little dorky and the priestly
fall fashion section of my newspaper has gone missing so I can't make
any true comments about his style.

~Grimbold
(Who wishes that his white sock incident would be forgotten. Now thats
a fashion sin !!! )

Grimbold

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ladyc...@hotmail.com (Crimson SoulFire) wrote:

>(Grimbold) wrote:
>
>>Mostly people just snap them back onto my but, I rather like it
>>though, I think it's a latent S&M part of me.
>>
>>~Grimbold
>>SNAP SNAP !!!! :)
>********
>Grimbold! you naughty-naughty! *tsk tsk-ing and reaching stealthily
>for your hanging-down suspenders*

SNAAAAAPP!! "Ouch", *rubbing sore spot and walking away with a
swagger, allowing the suspenders to sway back and forth alluringly*

~Grimbold


GothFaeri

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Nov 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/6/98
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ratty roo said:
>
>oHMGOD! i've GOTTEN that one! we made a xian hate tree out of it in my old
>apt though--branches in the corner, and we tied all the hate pamphlets to
>it. it was pretty.

and THIS is why i adore you tam-lin. because you made lemons into Snakebite and
Black. :} "it was pretty" . see people? be like ratty here and make pretty out
of evil!!!! raar!

worst thing i recieved that i can remember, was prolly a toothbrush. but i
rather liked it. it had bats and witches. ;}

...}|{ who did her laundry! oh sweet baby jesus! :O


*.Poppy.* #14577324 !*! 169/210ths of Goth
"We are the stowaways of possibility... the rhythm of the waves rocks us
chillingly."
"Just the fro. Not you. You can go get some coffee or something."
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Crimson SoulFire

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On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 22:20:28 GMT, jw...@interlog.com (Grimbold) wrote:

>SNAAAAAPP!! "Ouch", *rubbing sore spot and walking away with a
>swagger, allowing the suspenders to sway back and forth alluringly*

> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>~Grimbold

**********
~slips on her round yin/yang shades so she can watch without getting
caught~ numnums.

~CSF, in much need of a boi-watching night out

gree...@my-dejanews.com

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Nov 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/6/98
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jw...@interlog.com (Grimbold) wrote:

> >Oh, no no no! *smoothes feathers* It's all about me saying
> >the wrong thing at the wrong time - my special knack as a
> >Sagittarian.
>
> Well I'm a forgiving Virgo, so no harm done.

!! That's a first for me. :)

> I have to agree there, he did look a little dorky and the priestly
> fall fashion section of my newspaper has gone missing so I can't make
> any true comments about his style.

Check out back issues of CQ (Clergy Quarterly)... They're doing
some faboo things with vinyl hassocks, not to mention the new
lace wimples.. :>

> ~Grimbold
> (Who wishes that his white sock incident would be forgotten. Now thats
> a fashion sin !!! )

I know! Jeez! How could you have done that?!
(um... you realize you have to share the details now, ja?)

--
gree...@my-dejanews.com
"hold a little tighter, I might just slip away."

countes...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <19981102221606...@ng82.aol.com>,
lulu...@aol.com (Luluwhite) wrote:
> ronda wrote
>
> >Bucket number
> >three is reserved for the annoying and the un-costumed. It contains boxes of
> >raisins

>
> woohoo! Whick turns this into the ...worst trick or treet ya ever got- poll!!!
>
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>
>

I just moved into a different neighborhood over the summer, so I didn't know
what kinda kids would be coming. I purposely went to the store and bought
those nasty peanut butter kisses!! I bought 2 big bags of em.......we also
had some blow pops in the house, but those got saved for the kids who
actually came in costume.....we had too many 15 year old kids walking up to
our house and saying "You guys got any candy?"

I think we gave out about 3 blow pops.......

Countess Ariana

~*If God meant for us to be vegetarians, he would have given us a different
set of teeth...*~

Grimbold

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On Fri, 06 Nov 1998 06:35:23 GMT, gree...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

>> Well I'm a forgiving Virgo, so no harm done.
>
>!! That's a first for me. :)

I thought most Virgos were, my only fault is that I tend to over
analyze things.

>Check out back issues of CQ (Clergy Quarterly)... They're doing
>some faboo things with vinyl hassocks, not to mention the new
>lace wimples.. :>

Ha ha *snort !*

>> ~Grimbold
>> (Who wishes that his white sock incident would be forgotten. Now thats
>> a fashion sin !!! )
>
>I know! Jeez! How could you have done that?!
>(um... you realize you have to share the details now, ja?)


It was nothing big but everyone around my office made fun of me.
They're all raves, not that there is anything wrong with that, but
c'mon look at the size of those pants - DAMN!!!

Any how, I had just gotten my new pants (pin-stripes) back from the
cleaners and all hemmed up. I put them on with the usual extra belts,
chains, suspenders, shirt, tie hanging half undone... BUT my socks!!
I could not find any in my drawer.

Time was not on my side.

I ran into my brother's room and all he had was a pair of white ones
left, so I put them on and ran to find my 14 holes, alas they were
nowhere to be found. I grabbed my old 8 holes and not paying much
attention to anything else I ran out the door.

When I got to work, 15 min late, I quickly got to my desk and
collapsed into my chair. Little did I know that the pants were hemmed
too short (I has measured them wrong) and when I sat down the legs of
the pants hiked up exposing the white socks for all to see.

So as everyone passed my desk I was lectured on proper fashion sense
and how and all black outfit with white socks is a big no no.

It was a small traumatic experience, I recovered.

~Grimbold

Misery

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> I want to make sure the un-costumed crowd that didn't even make the effort of
> any kind of costume don't come back to my house. I Keep Three buckets at the
> door. The first is filled with cool toys, prizes and candy. If a costume is
> exceptional I hand out from this bucket. Bucket number two is for the average
> dressed crowd. They get candy and maybe some cool stickers. Bucket number

> three is reserved for the annoying and the un-costumed. It contains boxes of
> raisins. I am going to add little boxes of dried prunes to this bucket next
> year!
> I had to be a bit more generous this year. It was pouring rain and very cold.
>
> Ronda

Hmmm....but what if those annoying uncostumed critters happen to have a
thing for prunes like me? I like 'em....*ponders* eep...lalala....I went
as something between a psycho sprite and me for this
halloween...hehe....the most I said the whole night was "pika pi" "pika"
"pikachu" "CAW!" and "trick!" hmm..yes. we managed to get our party of 6
or 7 to say just "trick" heheehe...oh...um..and the "CAW!" isn't
said...it's my best imitation of a crow...eh. you go slightly hoarse
after a while and have to pause a bit before continuing...otherwise,
it's fun!!! Hmm..but we didn't wander to the right direction so we could
go play at the elementary school's playground...yes, our group of upper
classmen have a thing for playgrounds...*Shrugs* I dunno. Lava Monster
style tag is fun...hehe...ok. I'm rambling...I shut up now...

Misery.
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SaraiCat wrote:

>
> Luluwhite wrote:
>
> > woohoo! Whick turns this into the ...worst trick or treet ya ever got- poll!!!
>
> A little xian booklet on the Evils of Halloween.
>
> :(
>
> -Sarai
>

hmm...there's actually a site on that....
http://www.fni.com/heritage/nov95/Kerby.html
the guy knows what he's ranting too...oiy....but I still say he's a
hypocrite! peh...someone should make note to him on the pagan references
in 'deck the halls with boughs of holly' hehehe.....guess for him, even
x-mas is "tainted" *shrugs* lalalala....I just have fun with holidays
regardless of its true purpose...unless I really want to bother with
it....eep...

Misery.

~pikachu!

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