question re: making parasols (includes faq link)
filigree
in the faq re: making your own parasol! Here's the info:
http://www.toreadors.com/gothfash/faq.html
(go to section 3.3b)
Now for my question to whomever may know about this (as
I realize Trystan has more important things going on ATM
and may not be able to answer ;).
Is it possible to use a modern retractable umbrella?
I'm assuming when Victoria and Trystan suggested old
umbrellas, they meant the old-fashioned, non-retractable
types, but I'd like a parasol that's fairly lightweight,
and more importantly, fits in my monster-size handbag.
Also, Trystan suggested opaque, durable fabric for
sun blockage. Would the regular umbrella fabric be
good enough (meaning I wouldn't even have to redo it),
or should I replace it with some other type of fabric,
or maybe paint something on the fabric to assist in
sun blockage?
Much thanks in advance
filigree
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miss alexandra
>
<snip>
> Is it possible to use a modern retractable umbrella?
> I'm assuming when Victoria and Trystan suggested old
> umbrellas, they meant the old-fashioned, non-retractable
> types, but I'd like a parasol that's fairly lightweight,
> and more importantly, fits in my monster-size handbag.
>
> Also, Trystan suggested opaque, durable fabric for
> sun blockage. Would the regular umbrella fabric be
> good enough (meaning I wouldn't even have to redo it),
> or should I replace it with some other type of fabric,
> or maybe paint something on the fabric to assist in
> sun blockage?
although this wasn't directed to me, i thought i'd pipe up with my
obligatory 2 cents here :) My sister has asked me pretty much the exact
same question about retractable parasols and keeping the fabric thats on
there already, and heres what i came up with...
Firstly, the big problem we saw was 'is it just going to look like a
normal umbrella?' so what we are doing is putting a layer of lace *over*
the waterproof fabric thats already there on the brolly and stitch it
down both at the top and along the circumference (obviously, this needs
to be done with the brolly open - not good for the superstitious unless
its a sunny day in your back garden :) ). we had a few variation of
ideas - originally we were going to have black lace over a black brolly,
but you could also put a colored lace over a black brolly or
alternatively, black lace over a colored brolly. To cover up the
stitching along the circumference (and to make it look more like a
parasol) stitch along some lace trim or (the one we are going with) some
marabou feather boa stuff. or both ;) I wanted to use tassel, but then
realized because this 'parasol' is retractable, it will get caught in
all the 'mechanics' when closed, and could be a real nightmare to
untangle. Prolly useful to keep this in mind when chosing your trim...
As for the handle, keep it as is but go and invest (or make) a big
decorative tassel to hang off it. This is pretty much just for show,
but hell it looks nice :)
HTH,
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miss alexandra <gei...@ihug.com.au> wrote:
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>Firstly, the big problem we saw was 'is it just going to look like a
>normal umbrella?' so what we are doing is putting a layer of lace *over*
>the waterproof fabric thats already there on the brolly and stitch it
>down both at the top and along the circumference (obviously, this needs
>to be done with the brolly open - not good for the superstitious unless
>its a sunny day in your back garden :) ). we had a few variation of
>ideas - originally we were going to have black lace over a black brolly,
>but you could also put a colored lace over a black brolly or
>alternatively, black lace over a colored brolly. To cover up the
>stitching along the circumference (and to make it look more like a
>parasol) stitch along some lace trim or (the one we are going with) some
>marabou feather boa stuff. or both ;) I wanted to use tassel, but then
>realized because this 'parasol' is retractable, it will get caught in
>all the 'mechanics' when closed, and could be a real nightmare to
>untangle. Prolly useful to keep this in mind when chosing your trim...
I bought myself a dark green paisley umbrella last year for just this
purpose. It's now trimmed at the center and around the edge with hunter
green and ivory lace trim. Eyelet lace trim looks gorgeous on a regular
umbrella when it's folded up, but I don't think it'd do well on a
retractable one. This took me a fair amount of folding and "training"
the fabric to bundle up the same way every time I closed the parasol.
I made this particular one when I realized that all vintage parasols had
a long "walking stick" handle, but a very small actual shade.
I originally had a black and white golf umbrella that I'd stenciled a
celtic knot border onto the edges. It disappeared at one of our gigs,
and while I've bought another black and white humongous umbrella to
hide under for days that we're playing outside, I've just never gotten
up the energy to spend that much time on a stencilling project _again_.
This week's project is gothing out my favorite straw sunhat. This one is
large-brimmed, but not floppy, making it an ideal candidate for an edwardian
lady's walking hat. It was orignally natural straw, but I've just finished
painting it black with a tough and flexible acrylic paint (Patio Paint by
DecoArt). Next step is to find black, blue, and purple silk flowers
and some appropriate black ribbon and lace trim.
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victoria gwaed
filigree <fili...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> Let me start by stating that there is some great info
> in the faq re: making your own parasol! Here's the info:
> http://www.toreadors.com/gothfash/faq.html
> (go to section 3.3b)
> Is it possible to use a modern retractable umbrella?
> I'm assuming when Victoria and Trystan suggested old
> umbrellas, they meant the old-fashioned, non-retractable
> types, but I'd like a parasol that's fairly lightweight,
> and more importantly, fits in my monster-size handbag.
>
You can do it with a retractable one, infact that's what I originally
used. You just have to be sure that it's tacked well and in the right
places so it doesn't catch when folding and unfolding.
> Also, Trystan suggested opaque, durable fabric for
> sun blockage. Would the regular umbrella fabric be
> good enough (meaning I wouldn't even have to redo it),
> or should I replace it with some other type of fabric,
> or maybe paint something on the fabric to assist in
> sun blockage?
A friend left the black umbrella fabric and stitched red lace over the
top so she could still use it for sun or rain. Personally, I like to
replace the fabric, but do whatever makes you happy.
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filigree
victoria gwaed <lilitua...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> You can do it with a retractable one, infact that's
> what I originally used.
I just wanted to share with the .0005 people that this
may assist--I found cheap black umbrellas in both styles
at some tourist shops on Fremont street here in Vegas!
One store had the old-fashioned longer type for 3.99
with wood-type cane (curved) handles, another for 4.99 with
a silver one. And I found a retractable one for 4.99 with
a black plastic cane handle. I don't know, it seemed
exciting at the time, seeing as how I bought it on my lunch
break right near work. : )
Since it's already black, I'll probably keep the fabric--
maybe add some fringy/tassely stuff around the edges.
I wonder if I should line the underside with a different
color to keep from baking under black fabric?
filigree
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victoria gwaed
filigree <fili...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> In article <8bo9s5$i1i$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> victoria gwaed <lilitua...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > You can do it with a retractable one, infact that's
> > what I originally used.
> Since it's already black, I'll probably keep the fabric--
> maybe add some fringy/tassely stuff around the edges.
> I wonder if I should line the underside with a different
> color to keep from baking under black fabric?
>
> filigree
After you put the trim on it, you could put tiny black ribbon roses or
beading all over it that might be nifty. It would be a bit time
consuming, but very easy. Actually, I may try that!
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Nightfall
Lee Thompson-Herbert <l...@crl2.crl.com> wrote:
> This week's project is gothing out my favorite straw sunhat. This one is
> large-brimmed, but not floppy, making it an ideal candidate for an
edwardian
> lady's walking hat. It was orignally natural straw, but I've just
finished
> painting it black with a tough and flexible acrylic paint (Patio Paint by
> DecoArt). Next step is to find black, blue, and purple silk flowers
> and some appropriate black ribbon and lace trim.
>
Won't the paint make the hat _extremely_ hot, due to it being a) plastic and
b) now unventilated? I also have a natural straw hat that I've been trying
to decide what to do with, but I haven't been able to resolve the color
issue.
Nightfall
`Una
i love my straw hat. i only wish it was bigger and floppier, but it will
do until i get someplace with some stores. i dressed it up with a
piece of black ribbon (embroidered with little silver flowers) and
a big black silk flower. it isn't exactly GAF, but it certainly is spiff.
`Una
looking forward to owning a huge straw hat someday
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Lee Thompson-Herbert
Nightfall <synt...@spamfree.earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>Won't the paint make the hat _extremely_ hot, due to it being a) plastic and
>b) now unventilated? I also have a natural straw hat that I've been trying
>to decide what to do with, but I haven't been able to resolve the color
>issue.
I haven't noticed a difference _yet_. It's not as though the paint is
gooped on in an impenetrable layer. It's still a woven hat. I have
noticed that the paint isn't as durable as I hoped, though. Should've
gone with the flat black spray enamel. I got the idea after being in
a hat shop and noticing that many of their straw hats were painted.
A dye might've been more appropriate, but I don't have a hat block
to keep the shape if I get the hat wet.
The crackled paint isn't a big deal in this case, because most of the
brim is covered with black lace and/or ruched grosgrain ribbon. And soon
to have flowers, once I finish pleating all this damn ribbon. :p
I hate, hate, hate pleating, so what do I do? I'm now up to 15 yards worth
of 3 colors of ribbon that's either been pleated or I'm in the process of
pleating. This is starting to feel like some of my beaded dress projects.
Most of those started out with, "I'll just add some beading _here_." And
then continued on to, "Maybe I should do the whole neckline," and then on
to, "Well, maybe the hem too..." They look awesome now that they're done,
but they took for f***in' ever.
Star Ravenhart
>> This week's project is gothing out my favorite straw sunhat. This one is
>> large-brimmed, but not floppy, making it an ideal candidate for an
>edwardian
>> lady's walking hat. It was orignally natural straw, but I've just
>finished
>> painting it black with a tough and flexible acrylic paint (Patio Paint by
>> DecoArt). Next step is to find black, blue, and purple silk flowers
>> and some appropriate black ribbon and lace trim.
Where did you find the straw hat. I'm thinking about gettign one, probably in
a medium size range, big and floppy, but not too big. Would a craft store be a
good place to check. If possable I'l like to find a plain one that I can
decorate myself.
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>Won't the paint make the hat _extremely_ hot, due to it being a) plastic
and
>b) now unventilated? I also have a natural straw hat that I've been trying
>to decide what to do with, but I haven't been able to resolve the color
>issue.
ok, well, i don't know much about hats, but here are my thoughts anyway. :P
i know that you aren't really supposed to get hats too wet or they lose
their shape... but i should think you would be able to kind of "stain" it,
with a dye. i don't know what the best dye for this application would be,
but www.dharmatrading.com (possibly www.dharmatradingco.com... but i think
it's the former.) should have all the information you need and then some.
you *can* paint on fabric dyes and stain the fiber, without having to
completely submerge the hat or anything like that.
so... i don't know if that would work, but it's worth a try or at least a
little bit of research i think.
i'm about to paint a cowboy hat bright pink and then spray glitter all over
and add black marabou and rhinestones... not for everyday wear, of course.
;)
love and light,
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filigree
starb...@aol.commerce (Star Ravenhart) wrote:
> Where did you find the straw hat. I'm thinking about
> gettign one, probably in a medium size range, big and
> floppy, but not too big. Would a craft store be a good
> place to check. If possable I'l like to find a plain one
> that I can decorate myself.
I don't know about craft stores since I haven't been in one
in a long time, but I got one at Walmart last year--it's
got a medium-sized brim which is kinda floppy (curls up a
little around the edge), a rounded top, is black and was
real cheap! It's pretty and kinda lacy looking too.
filigree
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Star Ravenhart
>in a long time, but I got one at Walmart last year--it's
>got a medium-sized brim which is kinda floppy (curls up a
>little around the edge), a rounded top, is black and was
>real cheap! It's pretty and kinda lacy looking too.
>
That sounds exactly like what I'm looking for, thanks. I probably won't be
able to do it for a while since I'm at school, and don't really have the craft
supply access that I do at home but once I do it I'll be sure to post some
pics.
I'm thinking something with black tulle wapped around the brim and drapeing
slightly in the front like a mourning veil and the ends trailing down the back.
add some purple silk roses and I shoudl be all set to battle the summer sun.
maybe this is the year that I will manage to stay semi pale.