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ratty

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Jan 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/26/00
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, blodeuwedd wrote:
<snippage throughout>
> Release date: 17 February 2000:
>
> HUEtopia (M.A.C.'s spring line)
> Spanish Fly (frost)- a subdued, warm brown with green frost [think Club

yes please. is this anything like Smoove?

> Juiced (velvet)- a deep orange/yellow with pink shimmer,
> Sprout (frost)- bright almost metallic looking
> green with yellow frost, Humid (frost)- a rich dark green.

juiced is making me want it NOW NOW NOW NOW. *demandy*

> {1}: These products are incredible! They feel terrific on the skin. The
> Matte dimishes the look of fine lines and can be used to "set" your make-up.
> The Gloss can be used on the eye-lids for a "wet" look, or on the face to
> get that "plastic-y" look to your skin. Great for a cyber-look!

or faking the chanel lacquered eye look?

> {2}: These foundations will make you ditch your Studio-fix! They give you
> a look of incredibly healthy skin, whether you've got it or not. They're
> for ALL skin-types and no powder is needed for all day wear. They give you
> a fresh, dewy look that is simply beautiful! (Set them with Matte texture
> for a matte finish.)

already ditched my studio-fix in favor of the anna sui line. less dry,
better matching for my skin tone. (yellow undertones)

and it smells like roses. :9

which is also why i love the MAC mascara...

-ratty
loves the MAC 40% off pro card, oh yes.


blodeuwedd

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Let me start by saying that these colours/products are NOT available right
now. Please, use this information ONLY to see if there is anything coming
soon that you'd like to get in the future.

Also, this information partains ONLY to the US. Sorry! Many of the
products may be released elsewhere, particularly the colour stories.
However, i do not know where and when.

All release dates ARE subject to change in your area!


Release date: 17 February 2000:

HUEtopia (M.A.C.'s spring line)

New lipsticks: Jungle Juice (sheer)- a deep, muted grape purple lipstick,


Spanish Fly (frost)- a subdued, warm brown with green frost [think Club

eyeshadow as a lipstick], Lovedust (matte)- a light pink/beige with a pale
golden shimmer, Guavarine (glaze)- citrus-y gold flecked with shimmer,
Huetopia (sheer)- bright coral/orange.

New tinted lipglass: Squirt- a bright lime green, Succulent- a red/orange.

New small eyeshadows: Shroom (satin)- a pale beige with golden opalessence,
Juiced (velvet)- a deep orange/yellow with pink shimmer, Mulch (velvet)-
rich brown with bronze fleck, Sprout (frost)- bright almost metallic looking


green with yellow frost, Humid (frost)- a rich dark green.

New polish/nail varnish: Polyaster- red/orange, it compliments Succulent
lipglass, Psycho-dahlia- bright violet/purple with red shimmer.


Release date: 28 February:

Re-issue of Studio-fix. Select shades available in the original packaging.
Colours are: C2, C3, C4, C6, C7, C8 and N3, N4, N5, N9.


Release date: 06 March 2000:

Glitter gel (this is a M.A.C. store and Nordstrom exclusive! Not available
anywhere else.): Comes in 5 shades- white, gold, green, silver and pink.
This is a LIMITED time item. When it is gone, its gone.


Release date: 16 March 2000:

Texture story{1}: Gloss- a clear gloss for eyes, face and body, Matte- a
clear matte texturizer for eyes, face and body.

Hyper Real foundations{2}: silicon-based liquid foundations that give a
flawless skin-like look. Eight shades available- 100, 200, through 800.

Lots more goodies coming throughout the year, but i'll share those later,
including Viva Glam III and a Kajal inspired pencil!

blodeuwedd
-resident M.A.C. girl


{1}: These products are incredible! They feel terrific on the skin. The
Matte dimishes the look of fine lines and can be used to "set" your make-up.
The Gloss can be used on the eye-lids for a "wet" look, or on the face to
get that "plastic-y" look to your skin. Great for a cyber-look!

{2}: These foundations will make you ditch your Studio-fix! They give you

bridget

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"ratty" wrote:
> loves the MAC 40% off pro card, oh yes.

40%???? Is it that much? Damn, I'm gonna get me one of them!


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Adrianna

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Ratty comments:

>> loves the MAC 40% off pro card, oh yes.

then Bridget squeals:


>40%???? Is it that much? Damn, I'm gonna get me one of them!


Ee?! What what what? What's this?! How do I get one? And where? And how
soon?
~ Adrianna
"Screw Chemistry. Let's go get some food."
self indulgent fluff - http://members.aol.com/LadyRaeven/

jetzebel

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On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, ratty wrote:

> already ditched my studio-fix in favor of the anna sui line. less dry,
> better matching for my skin tone. (yellow undertones)

woah! so it wasn't only me? the C & NC line from MAC is so farking yellow
i can't deal. she picked out NC35 for me, which I can't even wear now w/o
looking like Britney Spears since my summer tan has faded so much.It makes
me a nice goldeny tan. Its so pigmented! I should have just siad "no, i
want NC30", but i was shy :( I really think MACs C & NC line works best
for Asians and Blacks, with strong color undertones, and not people who
are stuck somewhere inbetween various ethnicities.

m.

jetzebel

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On 27 Jan 2000, Adrianna wrote:

> Ratty comments:
> >> loves the MAC 40% off pro card, oh yes.
>
> then Bridget squeals:
> >40%???? Is it that much? Damn, I'm gonna get me one of them!
>
>
> Ee?! What what what? What's this?! How do I get one? And where? And how
> soon?

You have to be a working make-up artist. When i was in MUFE, there was
this chick asking how to get a MUFE discount card, and she said MAC wanted
"call lists" or something, that proved that she was working, but also just
accpeted looking at her portfoilio. FYI, MUFE, at least in NYC, requires
that you have print work (not photos) of what you've done... preferably w/
yer name on it.. but there was this fiasco when I was in there one day.
This chick came in w/ her book, and had ads in that she had not done....
and then like 10 min, the REAL chick came in... tsk tsk.

m.


ratty

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Jan 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/27/00
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On 27 Jan 2000, Adrianna wrote:

> Ratty comments:
> >> loves the MAC 40% off pro card, oh yes.
>
> then Bridget squeals:
> >40%???? Is it that much? Damn, I'm gonna get me one of them!
>
>
> Ee?! What what what? What's this?! How do I get one? And where? And how
> soon?

Well, first you become a professional makeup artist. Then you bring your
IATSE card or payslips from your job to an MAC store, not a counter. Then
they give you one.

-ratty


ratty

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I had the opposite problem, I got the w10 (again, with a pushy salesgirl,
and i was too tired and shy to contradict her)[1]. It was way too pink for
my skin, and left me with the odd look of a pinkish face and an olive
undertoned neck. eeeiigh. Apparently the MAC counters arent even carrying
the w10 anymore, anyway. So I am giving to a pinkskinned friend, and I got
the lightest Anna Sui powder foundation, which I enjoy muchly.

-ratty

[1[ Why I love Sephora, #963271.


ratty

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Jenn wrote:
> Nothing to contribute, sorry...But I find it amusing that IATSE is obviously
> some sort of makeup artists' association -- IATSE is also an A/V
> (audio/visual) union...

amusing? it's a theatre union, it covers all of the above. it also covers
costumers, actors, directors, lighting, sound (which is what i'm assuming
you mean) and set designers.

-ratty
confused.


MakeupGrrl

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I've got a Pro Card too, and I am eagerly awaiting the new spring
schtuffs!

I'm telling you, doing makeup is the best job in the *world*!

MG
ObGothFash: Wore my hair in anime-style high mini-ponytails today, and
realised also that yes, it has grown too cold for even my lined
leather jacket, and now I'm stuck wearing a *crayola-red* mid-thigh
wool swing coat -- which I wouldn't mind if I didn't feel like a
beacon in the night while wearing it... Damn, I wish I could dye it
black (but we all know how *that* goes...)


Jenn

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ratty <ra...@lanminds.com> wrote in message
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Nothing to contribute, sorry...But I find it amusing that IATSE is obviously


some sort of makeup artists' association -- IATSE is also an A/V
(audio/visual) union...

Jenn (whose ex is an A/V guy)
audac...@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/audacity242/

Stormchoir

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Jan 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/28/00
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> > "ratty" wrote:

> Juiced (velvet)- a deep orange/yellow with pink shimmer,

<Snip other colors>

> > juiced is making me want it NOW NOW NOW NOW. *demandy*

If you really want it NOW NOW NOW NOW, someone is selling it on eBay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=243594410

Stormchoir

Pallas-Rose

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Don't care how good their new stuff is--I want my N1 back!!

Pallas

WMIAOU

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Pallas wrote:


>Don't care how good their new stuff is--I want my N1 back!!

Yeah! Me too!
Mina-desparately scraping the last drops from my last N1 bottle...

ratty

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ok, i dont want it badly enough to buy it on ebay. *grin* patience is a
virtue. though this morning i did think 'i wish i had that orangey pink
eyeshadow already.'

-ratty


blodeuwedd

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ratty wrote

Geez, that's REALLY pathetic (the auction, not the desire to have the
product). Its obvious to me that whoever is auctioning this product
received it as gratis (meaning, totally free.....) and now they're turning
around and selling for nothing but profit. Either that, or the originally
recipient of the gratis has already sold it to the person currently
auctioning it.

Hmmm, wonder how pissed of the M.A.C. employee who's started this (eBay
auction) would be when M.A.C. found out and canned them.

blodeuwedd<lily>


Jenn

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ratty <ra...@lanminds.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Jenn wrote:
> > Nothing to contribute, sorry...But I find it amusing that IATSE is
obviously
> > some sort of makeup artists' association -- IATSE is also an A/V
> > (audio/visual) union...
>
> amusing? it's a theatre union, it covers all of the above. it also covers
> costumers, actors, directors, lighting, sound (which is what i'm assuming
> you mean) and set designers.

Hrmmm, then maybe they are one and the same? I had assumed that the IATSE
originalyl referred to (heheh, IATSE-1 hereinafter) some sort makeup artists
union only, not a theatre union. And my BF had explained to me that IATSE
(his IATSE, so IATSE-2 hereinafter) was for A/V people, but considering that
a great deal of A/V techs work in the theatre industry, it wouldn't surprise
me if IATSE-1 and IATSE-2 were one and the same...

Jenn
audac...@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/audacity242/

ratty

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Jenn wrote:
<snip>

> Hrmmm, then maybe they are one and the same? I had assumed that the IATSE
> originalyl referred to (heheh, IATSE-1 hereinafter) some sort makeup artists
> union only, not a theatre union. And my BF had explained to me that IATSE
> (his IATSE, so IATSE-2 hereinafter) was for A/V people, but considering that
> a great deal of A/V techs work in the theatre industry, it wouldn't surprise
> me if IATSE-1 and IATSE-2 were one and the same...

Yes. That's what I just said. It's the same thing.

-ratty

Pallas-Rose

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>
>On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Jenn wrote:
>> Nothing to contribute, sorry...But I find it amusing that IATSE is
>obviously
>> some sort of makeup artists' association -- IATSE is also an A/V
>> (audio/visual) union...
>
>amusing? it's a theatre union, it covers all of the above. it also covers
>costumers, actors, directors, lighting, sound (which is what i'm assuming
>you mean) and set designers.
>
>-ratty
>confused.

IATSE--definitely union. Part of the teamsters, in fact. Doesn't include
actors, who are covered by SAG & AFTRA, but does include the others ratty
mentioned.

Pallas

The Lollipop Trollop

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ratty <ra...@lanminds.com> wrote some stuff on Thu, 27 Jan 2000
09:42:42 -0800:

<major snippage>

>Well, first you become a professional makeup artist.

Erm, how exactly does one go about doing that?

I've tried to find information on this online, but so far I've had no
luck. Perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places. If so, I'm very sorry
for wasting everyone's time. :(

I've seen beauty schools offering both certificates and Associate
degrees in makeup art, and it's rather confusing...

Can I get a good job with just the certificate, or should I get the
degree, too?

I'm looking into makeup because I enjoy it immensely, and it's
something that will pay the bills (I hope!) while I save up for
studying interesting-but-useless things in college, so I don't really
want to spend time and money on a degree in makeup art when I can get
a decent job without one.

On the other hand, getting such a degree could be really interesting.
I just don't know if I can afford to spend a great deal of money on
something that might not make much difference as to the quality of job
I can get.

Thanks for any help you might feel like providing.

Lurve and glitter,

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nervous about posting for the first time, if that isn't obvious.)
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MakeupGrrl

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On Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:17:46 GMT,
anat...@morethanmortal.com*canned*meat*is*scarybad* (The Lollipop
Trollop) wrote:

>I'm looking into makeup because I enjoy it immensely, and it's
>something that will pay the bills (I hope!) while I save up for
>studying interesting-but-useless things in college, so I don't really
>want to spend time and money on a degree in makeup art when I can get
>a decent job without one.

Don't bother -- there's no "degree" for being a makeup artist. In my
experience school is a waste of money until you know enough to know
what your strengths and weaknesses are, and exactly what the things
you need to know are, and whether a given school can provide those
things -- there are a lot of schools that falsely promise the moon and
starts.

You should have some sort of license, depending on what state you live
in -- I live in MA and I have a Cosmetologist's license. This
involves 1000 hours of training and passing the State Board exam (a
ridiculous, outdated, long, expensive test, but it's the only way to
get a license). You can also go to school for Esthetics, either 300
or 600 hours. Neither of these courses will teach you much of
anything about makeup, however.

Try the Worldwide Alliance of Makeup Artists, or Set the Pace
Publishing Group. Both of these sites have job listings, message
boards, links and resources. To start working as a makeup artist,
first decide what kind of makeup you want to do -- print, theatre,
production, special fx -- then look for someone to apprentice with.
Offer your services to your local theater. Look for photographers and
models to do test shoots with.

Whatever way you go, unless you work at a counter, you'll have to do a
lot of work for free, just to get experience and a reel/portfolio.
But if you really love it it doesn't feel like work. Give it a go and
see how you like it, because if you like it it's the best job in the
whole world!

MG
"I mean if they keep putting new things out
it's not my fault that I buy them!"
- Kris in Philly

ratty

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On Sat, 29 Jan 2000, The Lollipop Trollop wrote:

> ratty <ra...@lanminds.com> wrote some stuff on Thu, 27 Jan 2000
> 09:42:42 -0800:
>
> <major snippage>
>
> >Well, first you become a professional makeup artist.
>
> Erm, how exactly does one go about doing that?

I went to a liberal arts school and got a degree in theatre-- it just so
happens that my professor of makeup works for the SF Ballet and SF Opera
and needed lackeys to help him out.

I actually didn't persue it because there isn't a lot of money in it until
you're uber super ninja have done it for years --
one of my co-students now works for ACT theatre here in SF, and barely
scrapes by rent in oakland. I bailed and now am a scary web geek.

For print work, I have no idea! I am useless!

-ratty
gets asked by the sephora sales people if shes in the 'industry', whch
scares me

MakeupGrrl

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On Sat, 29 Jan 2000 15:34:40 -0800, ratty <ra...@lanminds.com> wrote:

>I actually didn't persue it because there isn't a lot of money in it until
>you're uber super ninja have done it for years --
>one of my co-students now works for ACT theatre here in SF, and barely
>scrapes by rent in oakland. I bailed and now am a scary web geek.

Yeah, I do some theatre work -- it's my favorite, but unfortunately
the pay is shit. A shame, because I'd do much more theatre work if I
could afford to.

MG

blodeuwedd

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The Lollipop Trollop wrote

> ratty wrote some stuff on Thu, 27 Jan 2000


> 09:42:42 -0800:
>
> <major snippage>
>
> >Well, first you become a professional makeup artist.
>
> Erm, how exactly does one go about doing that?

::snip::

> I've seen beauty schools offering both certificates and Associate
> degrees in makeup art, and it's rather confusing...
>
> Can I get a good job with just the certificate, or should I get the
> degree, too?

i agree with the others, skip the certificate. _I_ used to teach make-up
artistry for a major salon academy and _I_ don't have a certificate (nor a
license, for that matter...)

> I'm looking into makeup because I enjoy it immensely, and it's
> something that will pay the bills (I hope!) while I save up for
> studying interesting-but-useless things in college, so I don't really
> want to spend time and money on a degree in makeup art when I can get
> a decent job without one.

Well, depending on what kind of work you do, the money SERIOUSLY varies.

::snip::

> Thanks for any help you might feel like providing.

Ask yourself, what KIND of make-up artistry do you want to do? Salon?
Print? Photo? Fashion? Theatre? Film? Etc??? Because, qualifications
and experience vary greatly from one to another.

i started out as a photographer's apprentice, who taught me the basics of
lighting, etc... Then did VERY basic free-lance work (photography and
special occation) for mostly friends and such. Then i got a "real" job
while working my through college and mostly quit make-up work until i was
asked to do it again. At the time, i was a salon coordinator for an
international salon chain. The make-up artist just up and left, so i was
ask to fill in. Did that for three years while also teaching at their
academy, and doing various runway and stage productions and photography
work. When i moved to CA, my salon chain wasn't in the area, so i applied
for and got work as an artist for M.A.C. i still free-lance in my spare
time. In total, i've been doing make-up for roughly eight years, but i've
limited myself to mostly 'fashion'-type make-up. i am by NO means qualified
to do prosthetics, wigs or other "special effects". (Though, i'm AM
learning....)

Find out what your state/government requirements on make-up artistry are.
In both of the states that i've worked in, no degrees are "required", unless
you're planning on doing certain proceedures (i.e. tweezing, facials,
etc...).

Hope that helps!

Also, you may find some useful info on makeupmag.com (make-up artist
magazine's web site...)

blodeuwedd <lily>

The Lollipop Trollop

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"blodeuwedd" <blode...@home.com> wrote:

<big snip>

>Find out what your state/government requirements on make-up artistry are.
>In both of the states that i've worked in, no degrees are "required", unless
>you're planning on doing certain proceedures (i.e. tweezing, facials,
>etc...).

Okay, thanks. :>
Since you mentioned working for M.A.C. in CA, I think I should be fine
without a degree, since that's a goal of mine. (I *heart* M.A.C., and
my boi is going to drag me along when he moves to CA.)

>Hope that helps!

It did. :>
Thanks bunches!

>Also, you may find some useful info on makeupmag.com (make-up artist
>magazine's web site...)

I've now got that site bookmarked. Thanks again. :>

Lurve and glitter,

*~*anathema*~* (Tired and semi-incoherent.)

Kirsten Procter

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The Lollipop Trollop wrote:
>ratty <ra...@lanminds.com> wrote some stuff on Thu, 27 Jan 2000

>09:42:42 -0800:
>
><major snippage>
>
>>Well, first you become a professional makeup artist.
>
>Erm, how exactly does one go about doing that?

Beauty therapy is done by taking a course from the Red Cross; yes? no?
My cousin's sister-in-law is a beauty therapist, and I've always thought
it sounded interesting, but hoiw useful is it? And is there a further
course from the Red Cross one should ione be interested in Beauty Therapy
as a career?

Kirsten,

--

--
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"they should realise before they criticise that God is the only way to
love"

Narnia

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On 5 Feb 2000 19:34:38 GMT, Kirsten Procter <gh...@aibs.freeserve.co.uk>
sang with gusto in alt.gothic.fashion:

> Beauty therapy is done by taking a course from the Red Cross; yes? no?

What is beauty therapy; does it differ from being a makeup artist?


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In article <slrn89r242...@skinner.demon.co.uk>, Narnia wrote:
>On 5 Feb 2000 19:34:38 GMT, Kirsten Procter <gh...@aibs.freeserve.co.uk>
>sang with gusto in alt.gothic.fashion:
>
>> Beauty therapy is done by taking a course from the Red Cross; yes? no?
>
>What is beauty therapy; does it differ from being a makeup artist?
>
It's make0-up fpor covering scars, birth-marks and so on and for general
confiudence building of people with (usually) psychological disordeers,
AIUI

Kirsten

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