alt.gothic.fashion.faq/part9
Trystan L. Bass
3.3 what are some good lipsticks?
From: emyly
wet 'n wild -- i just discovered their
halloween "fantasy makers" line, with three
shades of black lipstick (creme, shimmer,
pearl) and a black liquid lip color, blue
lipstick, glittery face and body paints...
From: Jillian Sutter
I went and got a tube of the Vamp lipstick.
Great color, stays on well...and Chanel uses
rose oil in their lipsticks, so they smell really
neat.
From: Mooncrow
The best black lipstick I ever used was
Almay's liquid black eyeliner! Stays on until
you take it off, but does tend to make your lips
feel (but not look) dried-up. Great if you like
matte black lips.
From: Verotika
I always found that MAC Media, with some
black liner works wonderfully. Plus, unlike
other lipsticks, the media stays put for hours
(seriously).
From: Christabel La Motte
For black lipstick -- if you're on a budget,
haunt drugstores and Halloween shops: the
Fantasy Makers black (plain creme formula)
is, well, decent for 99 cents. If you have a bit
more money to blow, Make-Up Forever
makes a lovely creamy opaque black. I've also
found a brand called "Lip Krayon" (lipstick in
pencil form, surprisingly creamy for the type)
that makes a fairly opaque black: however, it
doesn't seem to last as long, and the brand
doesn't seem to be very well distributed.
If you're not dead-set on true black, a few
other things to consider: Black Opal, "Ebony
Wine." A lovely, near-black purple shade,
about six bucks.
Chanel, "Rouge Noir" a.k.a. "Vamp" (the
ORIGINAL stuff, not Metallic Vamp or Very
Vamp or the Vamp quads). If anyone out there
HASN'T seen this yet, it's a VERY dark
oxblood shade. Line your lips with a black
kohl pencil instead of the Vamp lipliner for a
darker look. If you have to ask how much it
costs, believe me, you DON'T want to know...
*sigh*
Wet 'n' Wild/Fantasy Makers, "Blackest
Red." A Vamp knockoff. OK, so it doesn't
smell or taste or feel as nice as the Chanel, or
come in a pretty tube. For 99 cents, what do
you expect? At least it LOOKS good.
From: Chrys
the urban decay colors are all really cool. i
mean, i wear it, and my friends (some of them
are goths) come up and like STARE at my lips.
these are good. given, they may in some places
cost up to $15 a pop, they're worth it. for lips:
smog, plague, oilslick, bruise, and gash (which
looks a helluva lot more like glistening blood
than vamp or whatever, and it's my fave.
color).
From: LadyHallow
Black Opal makes a lipstick color called
Ebony Wine... it's practically black, with a
very nice raisin/purple tint. So many of the
dark colors turn out fuchsia when I put them
on, so it's a pleasure to find one that stays
striking. Costs about $5.
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3.4 what are some good black nail polishes?
From: Estelle
I have this nail polish called "Midnight" by
Estee Lauder. It's really pricey.. I don't
remember how much it cost (probably blocked
it out of my memory), but it gives this lovely
dark purple effect. It is a dark.. dark purple
that looks black from afar, and to really get
that dried blood affect you have to apply about
two thick coats. If you got the dough, and want
a high quality nail polish.. then go get some
'cause I *love* it and think it's worth every
penny.
From: Walter Keighron
My absolute favorite black polish is a shade
called Black on Black, manufactured by
Mirage cosmetics under the brand name
Sinful. Also, even Wet n' Wild stays on a
good long time without chipping if you make
sure nails are clean, buffed if you have the
time, and you apply a good base coat (as well
as top coat). Any old Revlon or Sally
Hansen base works quite well. It's really not
as much work as it sounds. The polish lasts ten
times longer at least.
From: Sande
If you're in L.A. area, try NINA and look fer
it in Whittier. If you're in Boston, try
Topstone Industries Professional BLACK
nail polish and look for it at Oona's (Newbury
St., Hahvahd Sq.) $3.
From: melissa
I went out to get some Revlon Vixen polish,
which is such a lovely blood-red. I also spotted
some cheapo-but-good Brucchi polish in
Silver Foil. Try this:
Put on a few coats of the Vixen (or other
suitably bloody shade). Then add a VERY thin
coat of Silver Foil (or other silver polish),
leaving some of the red edges showing
through. You will look like you used your
stainless steel nails to eviscerate something and
didn't clean up well enough. As the silver
wears down, the look gets more gruesome.
From: Jay
Find some deep purple nail polish, any brand
(preferably glittery), make sure it's a bright
color, not pastel, but very noticeable. Pile it on
until you get a nice even coat of it, then put a
very thin coating of the cheapy wet-n-wild
black on it, and finish it off with a protective
coating. Ends up looking better than Vixen (or
a similar color), I've had people come up to
me and ask me whose throat i ripped out
recently. :) Also I kind of think that painting
your nails really bright pink and streaking it
with a good thick black nail polish looks really
neat.
From: Chrys
for nails, i suggest urban decay (and the
names do reflect what the colors look like,
quite vividly): bruise, oilslick, plague,
gangrene, uzi, and smog. very nice. these
aren't all the colors, just the ones goths like.
From: Diantelis
Here's an idea, that I recently discovered by
accident. I painted my nails a black colour
(cheap stuff) but then decided to be different. I
took a nail polish that's clear with silver
glitter in it and painted this over the black,
and now my nails look like a starry night.
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4.1 what other gothic fashion resources exist on the
world wide web?
alt.clothing.lingerie FAQ
http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~matt/acl/
Will answer all your questions about corsets,
among other things.
alt.fashion FAQ
http://www.mindspring.com/~jstoner/alt.fashion/
About fashion in general, has a detailed hair-coloring
FAQ, lists cosmetic company addresses and phone
numbers, links to fashion web sites, etc.
alt.gothic FAQ
http://www.vamp.org/Gothic/Text/gothic-faq.html
Basic goth info., plus some fashion stuff.
uk.people.gothic FAQ
http://www.cimmerii.demon.co.uk/upgfaq
Basic goth info. for the United Kingdom,
including shopping suggestions.
aus.culture.gothic FAQ
http://www.omen.com.au/~synic/goth/auscg.htm
Basic goth info. for Australia, including stores listings.
alt.gothic newsgroup FAQ
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9306/agFAQ.html
Actually about the newsgroup itself, instead of
about the subculture.
alt.gothic.arts-and-crafts
http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/~tmiller/aga-a-c.htm
Archived tips and suggestions from a.g.f. for making
pretty little goth things for around the house.
alt.sex.fetish.fashion FAQ
http://login.dknet.dk:80/~pg/fetish/
Extensive suppliers lists (England, Europe & Far East,
North America) including resources for leather,
bondage, PVC, corsets, shoes, toys.
Dark Side of the Web
http://www.gothic.net/darkside/darkweb.html
Probably all the gothic web links you'll ever need,
hundreds of 'em, updated frequently.
Dye It Black FAQ
http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/b.rosenberg/goth/dye.faq.html
Pretty good instructions for dying your clothes
black, plus dye resources and books.
Gothable Patterns
http://www.bibiana.com/velvet/gothable.html
Commercially available patterns that could be made
into lovely goth fashions.
The Great Pattern Review
http://www.toreadors.com/costume/patterns.html
The good, the bad, and the ugly in historical
reproduction patterns.
Greater Bay Area Costumer's Guild Home Page
http://www.toreadors.com/costume/
Has a good list of historical clothing and costume links.
Make-Up Tips for the Bleak
http://www.vamp.org/Gothic/Text/makeup.html
Clever suggestions on how to look oh-so-gothically
pale and lovely
Six Feet Under
http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/~tmiller/sixfeet.htm
A nifty do-it-yourself guide to gothic fashion, for aspiring
SewingGoths, plus archived info. from a.g.f.
Take a Bite
http://www.crg.cs.nott.ac.uk/~rji/Gothic/TAB/tab.html
Gothic e-zine with lots of fashion tips, both silly and serious.
Skin Paling Cream
http://www.bright.net/~catsuit/pale.html
A recipe to whiten your face. No idea if it works, but
people keep asking for this kind of stuff...
Vampyre Stores
http://www.vampyre.wis.net//vampyre/shops.html
A small, yet international, listing of gothic clothing and
vampire oriented stores.
Wicked Hair Dying Page
http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~mizraith/dyeing.html
Tips for dying hair unnatural colors and reviews
of coloring products.
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5.0 credits.and.disclaimer
credits
Any entry not followed by a name in brackets or
preceded by a name was written by Trystan L.
Bass (who has been the original faq-maintainer
since it's inception in late 1995. Nobody else
wanted the job, but everyone thought it was a
good idea to have a faq ;-).
The following people contributed information to
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A Special Thanks to these Contributors who just
keep sending me stuff or posting really great
things on the net!:
Cairo
Christabel La Motte
Jillian Sutter
Lorelle Anderson
Margaret Rhodes
All the Other Great Contributors:
A. Popp, Aconite, Andrew Clegg, Angela,
AngelsFall, Barry Robb, BatGoth, Bathsheba,
Bitsy, Blk0rchid, blue girl, brendan, Charles
Gray, crimson heart, Chrissy, Christopher
Anderson, Chrys, Coronavirus, Corinne, Dark
Dragon, Darren Grant, David Gartrell, David I.
Yates, dejavu, Demonica Del Rio, Denise
Connell, Diantelis, Dita, Diva, dogcow, Elaine
Park, Emeraldas, emyly, Erhnam Djinn, Eric,
Estelle, Ethereal, evoL, feline, Gachaman,
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Hexed, ShadowFox, SmokeSerpent, Talone
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Valeskah, Velvtnoir, Verotika, ViktorBlak,
Victoria Gwaed, Walter Keighron, Waz from
Oz, Wozzeck, Wraatha, Zoe
disclaimer
I disclaim absolutely everything. The contents of
this article might be totally inaccurate,
inappropriate, misguided, or just plain silly and
foolish. I take no responsibility for the veracity
of any information here, although I did try to
check stuff out first. As always, buyer beware,
look before you leap, etc. And remember, folks,
this is a work in progress!
--Trystan L. Bass
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6.0 alt.gothic.fashion.advertising.guidelines
these guidelines were worked out mainly by
Sande and siani over a series of articles on
alt.gothic.fashion and alt.gothic.
1. advertisements should be labeled by subject
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these are only guidelines, to be mailed to anyone
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