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Patricia Davidson Wille Forsythe

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May 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/6/98
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Which portrait of a Queen or Princess, former or still, is your
favorite ? Which is the one you like " least " ?

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Patricia

Ann Avery Hunter

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May 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/6/98
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> Which portrait of a Queen or Princess, former or still, is your
> favorite ?

Mine is the one of Elizabeth I in her coronation robes.

Ann
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Ann Avery Hunter
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smith.

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Patricia Davidson Wille Forsythe <10214...@CompuServe.COM> wrote:
>Which portrait of a Queen or Princess, former or still, is your
>favorite ? Which is the one you like " least " ?
>
>--
>Patricia


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This is a photograph: I used to like to see Princess Grace with
her hair styled with the braids pinned to the top of her head (I
thought that was so neat,well groomed and casually elegant).
Also when Princess Anne wore her hair with side combs, I copied
that.my mother used to wear her hair the same way. If I'm dressing
up. my "fancy" hair-do is to sweep each side back with side combs.
I can't wait to see the new portrait of the Queen.
Donna


David E. Barrett

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May 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/6/98
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I have to say the portrait of the Queen by Anigoni, in the garter robes is
exquisite. Also Winterhalter portraits of the Empress Eugenie and Queen
Victoria and her family are also superb.
da...@iol.ie

Susan Cohen

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May 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/7/98
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Ann Avery Hunter wrote:

> > Which portrait of a Queen or Princess, former or still, is your
> > favorite ?
>

> Mine is the one of Elizabeth I in her coronation robes.

Funny, I like the one of her in 1547. Tried to do a gown based on it -
didn't have enough fabric for the undersleeves... Sigh. It's for sale,
incidentally, & lovely despite the "failure"....

Susan


Hainault36

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Susan Cohen wrote:

>Funny, I like the one of her in 1547. Tried to do a gown
> based on it -
>didn't have enough fabric for the undersleeves... Sigh.
> It's for sale,
>incidentally, & lovely despite the "failure"...

Susan, is that the one that is kind of a pinkish color? She would have been
about 13 yrs old then. She looks quite demure.

AGH3RD

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May 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/7/98
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> She looks quite demure.

Which gave rise to the saying "looks can be deceiving" <G>


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JEANSUE

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>>I have to say the portrait of the Queen by Anigoni, in the garter robes is
exquisite. <<

I like the other one; she appears more severe but quite serene.

My favorite photograph of the Queen was taken by Cecil Beaton on her 43rd
birthday. She is in an evening dress and tiara and leaning against one of the
couches in a state room. The overall ambiance is superb and she looks like a
beautiful woman in the prime of her life. I adore it.

JEANSUE

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>Tried to do a gown based on it -
didn't have enough fabric for the undersleeves... Sigh. It's for sale,
incidentally, & lovely despite the "failure"....<

What size????
jeansue

Marlene A Koenig

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May 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/7/98
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My favorite royal portrait is the full length Winterhalter of
Sisi - which I saw some years ago at the Met's Habsburg fashion
exhibit
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aly

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smith. wrote:

>
> Patricia Davidson Wille Forsythe <10214...@CompuServe.COM> wrote:
> >Which portrait of a Queen or Princess, former or still, is your
> >favorite ? Which is the one you like " least " ?
> >
> >--
> >Patricia
>
> --
>
> This is a photograph: I used to like to see Princess Grace with
> her hair styled with the braids pinned to the top of her head (I
> thought that was so neat,well groomed and casually elegant).
> Also when Princess Anne wore her hair with side combs, I copied
> that.my mother used to wear her hair the same way. If I'm dressing
> up. my "fancy" hair-do is to sweep each side back with side combs.
> I can't wait to see the new portrait of the Queen.
> Donna
>
I too love the ones of Princess Grace- there is one where she is in this
silver dress taken when she was younger that I jsut adore.

I have a number of favourites of the Queen. One is when she is 21, and
she is in this pink-oyster coloured gown. Beautiful...Of course, the
picture of the Queen in her garter robes. There is a painting done of
her right before the coronation - she is in this full light bluish
ballgown, strapless, holding a fan....

I love all of the Cecil Beaton photographs, my two favourites (besides
the Queen in garter robes) are the ones where she is holding baby Andrew
(a picture where you can really see how much she loves her new baby) and
the one where she is holding adorable baby Edward with 4 year old Andrew
smiling on the side. The Queen has a wide smile - she seemed at her
happiest then.

Patricia Davidson Wille Forsythe

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May 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/7/98
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Which portrait of a Queen or Princess, former or still, is your
favorite ? Which is the one you like " least " ?

There is a gorgeous portrait of Crown Princess
Victoria but I do not know the name of the artist. There is also a
beautiful painting of Queen Beatrix where she seems so alive as to
jump off of the canvas as you are mesmerized by the talent of the
artist . Does Prince Claus have any recently commissioned
portraits ?

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Patricia

Hainault36

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May 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/8/98
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AGH3RD wrote:

>Which gave rise to the saying "looks can be
> deceiving" <G>

That's for sure.....she was certainly a chip off the old block....oops, sorry!
No pun intended!!

Hainault36

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Marlene A. Koenig wrote:

>My favorite royal portrait is the full length Winterhalter
> of
>Sisi - which I saw some years ago at the Met's Habsburg
> fashion
>exhibit

Is that the one where she is wearing those diamond stars scattered in her hair,
and her hair is cascading down her back? She is wearing one of those marvelous
gowns by Worth? At least I think that is the name of the couturier.....I might
have the time frame wrong on that.

smith.

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May 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/8/98
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Does anyone know if there is any relationship between the House of
Worth(courtiere) and the House of Caron(perfumiere)???? Did Caron
buy out Worth? And Caron(perfumes) are still in business, I hope!
Donna


Hainault36

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May 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/8/98
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smith wrote:

>Does anyone know if there is any relationship between
>the House of
>Worth(courtiere) and the House of Caron(perfumiere)????
>Did Caron
>buy out Worth? And Caron(perfumes) are still in business,
>I hope!
> Donna

Donna, now that I come to think about it.....isn't Worth the makers of the
perfume "Je Reviens?" I haven't seen that particular one for ages.....don't
know if it still even exists......but in the 19th century Worth was an
Englishman who was the absolute top coturier in Paris........everyone wanted a
gown by Worth, which of course were fabulously expensive......I seem to think
that there were two Worth's.....father and son......not sure, though.

smith.

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I didn't know Worth was an Englishman;I always assumed he was French!
Yes,"Je Reviens" is by Worth and "Bellodgia" is by Caron. Off topic:
I had a Schiaparelli scarf once,trademark color: shocking pink,the
fore-runner of "hot pink". Was Balenciaga Spanish?


Morley

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May 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/8/98
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smith. wrote in message <6ivuqm$f1h$0...@204.179.92.57>...

Delving into my crystal ball which is a book entitled The Collector's Book
of 20th Century Fashion by Frances Kennett, I can tell you that Balenciaga
was Spanish and that Charles Worth had a younger son called Gaston, who was
running the House in the 1900s. Morley

Hainault36

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May 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/9/98
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Morley wrote:

>Delving into my crystal ball which is a book entitled
>The Collector's Book
>of 20th Century Fashion by Frances Kennett, I can tell
>you that Balenciaga
>was Spanish and that Charles Worth had a younger son
>called Gaston, who was
>running the House in the 1900s. Morley

Now that sounds like a book I would like to have! But just the 20th century,
huh? What I really like are the fashions of the 1830's or so.....and also the
1860's when the crinoline was in....gorgeous! But what a LOL it was sometimes
when these ladies tried to fit into carriages and through narrow doors with
them.

J&T Egan

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May 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/9/98
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Patricia Davidson Wille Forsythe wrote:
>
> Which portrait of a Queen or Princess, former or still, is your
> favorite ? Which is the one you like " least " ?


when i was 6 my mother gave me a large poster of queen elizabeth I.
the queen's dress was bejeweled, with the wavy starched white collar
her hair was so red and wiry looking and was up in a bun. i couldn't take
my eyes off her.
it was a lovely gift. my mom hung it down low on my closet door so
only people my height could see it and appreciate it. it fascinated me
for years. i wish i still had it. it would be interesting to see if my
memories of it are as clear as they still seem after all these years.
tae


Susan Cohen

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May 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/11/98
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Hainault36 wrote:

NASTY! (Notice I didn't say "incorrect"...?)

Lady of the Tinsel Trenchant

Susan Cohen

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Hainault36 wrote:

> Susan Cohen wrote:
>
> >Funny, I like the one of her in 1547. Tried to do a gown


> > based on it -
> >didn't have enough fabric for the undersleeves... Sigh.
> > It's for sale,

> >incidentally, & lovely despite the "failure"...
>
> Susan, is that the one that is kind of a pinkish color? She would have been
> about 13 yrs old then. She looks quite demure.

Yes, it's that one. I would say solemn rather than demure, but don't truly wish
to contradict you. And there's a side-view of Edward at about the same age which
shows that they looked *remarkably* similar. Not that anyone *really* had any
doubts about her parentage...

Susan


Susan Cohen

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JEANSUE wrote:

> >Tried to do a gown based on it -
> didn't have enough fabric for the undersleeves... Sigh. It's for sale,

> incidentally, & lovely despite the "failure"....<
>
> What size????

10-12. Black-on-black velvet, (okay, *loosely* based) gilt trim, white
(acrylic) fur-lined angel sleeves that can be worn down or folded back,
red damask underskirt (really just a panel sewn in place - but that's a
period trick. I have a hood to go with it, but it got all beat up (I'd
throw it in for nothing!!!)

Susan


Susan Cohen

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Hainault36 wrote:

> I seem to think
> that there were two Worth's.....father and son......not sure, though.

My first thought is "yes," my next thought is that I'd have to look it up to be
absolutely certain. Or, at least, to get their first names... One of them was
Charles.

Susan

Susan Cohen

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Hainault36 wrote:

> What I really like are the fashions of the 1830's or so.....and also the
> 1860's when the crinoline was in....gorgeous! But what a LOL it was sometimes
> when these ladies tried to fit into carriages and through narrow doors with
> them.

Imagine getting into a Duster with one (and trying to drive...)

Susan (I used to do civil war re-enactments....)

Susan Cohen

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smith. wrote:

> I didn't know Worth was an Englishman;I always assumed he was French!

He certainly put on enough Frenchified airs! (But that's because he *was* English!)

> Yes,"Je Reviens" is by Worth and "Bellodgia" is by Caron. Off topic:
> I had a Schiaparelli scarf once,trademark color: shocking pink,the
> fore-runner of "hot pink".

What design did it have? She was so avant-garde!

> Was Balenciaga Spanish?

I think so.


smith.

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>> It was a "modernistic" design. It was two-tone, I can't remember
if it was pink and black or pink and white,but the design had a name:
"Shocking" to commemorate her perfume called "Shocking"? I think it
was floral and 'Dali-esque'? (I used to be obsessed with fashion when I
was younger,now all that matters is comfort and utility and that it
does not require dry cleaning.) DSS


Susan Cohen

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JEANSUE wrote:

> 10-12. Black-on-black velvet, (okay, *loosely* based) gilt trim, white
> (acrylic) fur-lined angel sleeves that can be worn down or folded back,
> red damask underskirt (really just a panel sewn in place - but that's a
> period trick. I have a hood to go with it, but it got all beat up (I'd
> throw it in for nothing!!!)
>

> How much?

Oh, this is tough! What I'd charge a stranger & what I'd charge my friends are
2 different things. I'd rather have you look at it, & know ahead of time that
it was mostly hand-sewn before i told you how much I'd like for it... :-}

> Can I look at it when I see you in June unless someone else buys
> first?

Y'know, I could (can & will) hold off any other buyers until then.

Susan


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