BURBANK -- Southwest Airlines is under fire after director Kevin Smith
was kicked off a recent flight for being overweight.
The "Clerks," "Mallrats" and "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" director
was ordered off a flight from Oakland to Burbank Saturday. The pilot
reportedly said Smith was a "safety risk" because he was unable to put
down the armrest.
Smith, 39, responded with a barrage of profanity-laced Twitter posts,
saying he was treated worse than a terrorist.
"I know I'm fat, but was (the pilot) really justified in throwing me off
a flight for which I was already seated?" he tweeted. "I broke no
regulation, offered no 'safety risk' (what, was I gonna roll on a fellow
passenger?). I saw someone bigger than me on THAT flight! But I wasn't
about to throw a fellow Fatty under the plane as I'm being profiled. But
he & I made eye contact, & he was like 'Please don't tell...'"
Smith called the incident embarrassing and vowed to continue tweeting
about the airline for telling him he's "too wide for the sky."
Southwest officials said in a statement that as soon as they became
aware of the Twitter posts, they called Smith to offer their "heartfelt
apologies," but also said his removal was for the "safety and comfort of
all customers."
"If a customer cannot comfortably lower the armrest and infringes on a
portion of another seat, a customer seated adjacent would be very
uncomfortable and a timely exit from the aircraft in the event of an
emergency might be compromised if we allow a cramped, restricted seating
arrangement," Southwest said.
Southwest said its "customers of size" policy has been in effect for 25
years and that most airlines have similar rules, but few carriers
enforce them.
The airline said it offered Smith a $100 flight voucher, which he said
he refused. Smith eventually got on another Southwest flight.
He then tweeted a photo of himself on the plane with his cheeks puffed
out, saying,"Look how fat I am on your plane! Quick! Throw me off!"
After landing in Burbank, Smith tweeted, "Don't worry: wall of the plane
was opened & I was airlifted out while Richard Simmons supervised."
Southwest apologized to Smith on Twitter and issued a statement on its
blog, under the title, "Not So Silent Bob." The airline said Smith had
purchased two tickets, as he often does, but when Smith decided to fly
earlier on standby, only one seat was available, and he was told to get
off the plane after he was already seated.
The incident has prompted the National Association to Advance Fat
Acceptance to call for a boycott of Southwest. The group issued a
statement urging "people of size to seek out and travel airlines that do
not have such discriminatory policies."
"You (messed) with the wrong sedentary processed-foods eater!" tweeted
Smith, whose next film, "Cop Out," opens Feb. 26.
> http://www.latimes.com/features/odd-news/ktla-kevin-smith,0,3607084.story
>
None of the comments I've read support his position. People more or less
say that since he is fat, which he readily acknowledes, he should be ready
to accept the consequences.
About the only argument he has is that the airline hasn't been consistent,
as they have regularly let him fly with only one seat reservation in the
past.
While he *is* fat (a trait he and I share), assuming he fits between the
armrests with the armrests all the way down (another train he and I
share), what's the problem?
Obviously you and Smith share the same deficiency, food discipline - but you
can't read..
There is not problem. Southwest Airlines is going to alienate the
wrong fat person one of these days and that fat person is going to own
the airline.
I am in favor of large people buying two seats when they need to but
SWA fails miserably in the customer service department.
It is like the idiots in SSFA are whispering on someone's ear.
LV
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Not a chance in hell. The first fatass who sues will get all
fatasses banned from air travel. That's the way it will work
and no fatass will ever have shit to say about it.
>"The pilot reportedly said Smith was a "safety risk" because he was unable
>to put down the armrest. "
The reports seem to be inconsistent, the first couple articles I read
quoted Kevin as saying he had his seat-belt on and the armrests were
down.
http://snarkfood.com/southwest-apologizes-for-declaring-kevin-smith-too-fat-to-fly/36958/
quotes his twitter feed which indicates the armrests were down, as well
as the following:
| Smith responded by insisting he was able to lower both arm-rests and
|fit just fine in his seat. He challenged the airline to bring a row of
|seats to him for a public fit test.
|
| �If I don�t fit, I�ll donate $10k (�6,380) to charity of your choice,�
|Smith said. �But when I do (& buckle the belt as well) 1) You admit you
|lied. 2) Change your policy, or at least re-train your staff to be a lot
|more human & a lot less corporate.�
I see, he wanted some publicity for his next film....
> > "If a customer cannot comfortably lower the armrest and infringes on a
> > portion of another seat, a customer seated adjacent would be very
> > uncomfortable and a timely exit from the aircraft in the event of an
> > emergency might be compromised if we allow a cramped, restricted seating
> > arrangement," Southwest said.
Southwest is right, however politically incorrect it might sound.
> > Southwest apologized to Smith on Twitter and issued a statement on its
> > blog, under the title, "Not So Silent Bob." The airline said Smith had
> > purchased two tickets, as he often does, but when Smith decided to fly
> > earlier on standby, only one seat was available, and he was told to get
> > off the plane after he was already seated.
He should have waited for a flight with two seats.
> > The incident has prompted the National Association to Advance Fat
> > Acceptance to call for a boycott of Southwest. The group issued a
> > statement urging "people of size to seek out and travel airlines that do
> > not have such discriminatory policies."
Let them boycott. The number of people fat enough to have a problem with seats
is quite small compared to the number of people of normal or near-normal
weight who have no such problems. A boycott by the massively-fat people will
have no effect at all, and may reduce headaches for the airline and other
passengers.
> I see, he wanted some publicity for his next film....
Fat celebrities deserve the same treatment that any other fat person gets.
> There is not problem. Southwest Airlines is going to alienate the
> wrong fat person one of these days and that fat person is going to own
> the airline.
No they won't. They have been sued numerous times over the course of 25
years that they have had this policy and there is a now a rather fat (so
to speak) file of case law that says they can. Besides, the
discrimination laws are very specific about what are protected classes
and fatties are not included.
--
I get off on '57 Chevys
I get off on screamin' guitars
--Eric Clapton
> In message <hld59k$o6h$1...@tornado.tornevall.net> "Cellulite Damage"
> <urabo...@individual.net> was claimed to have wrote:
>
> > "The pilot reportedly said Smith was a "safety risk" because he was
> > unable to put down the armrest. "
>
> The reports seem to be inconsistent, the first couple articles I read
> quoted Kevin as saying he had his seat-belt on and the armrests were
> down.
The other articles were quoting Kevin Smith and fat people tend to be
liars. Believe the captain of the plane.
--
If this is true and he can indeed lower the armrests and buckle the
seat belt then it’s just another case of discrimination by South West
and the actions of an overly zealous flight crew.
Ragnar
So you are saying that a person’s capacity for telling the truth is
directly related to their weight? Maybe you could provide some
scientific data to back that idiotic blanket statement.
Ragnar
It wasn't necessarily only the weight issue but where his colostomy
bag would be stored as once he was shoehorned in there would be no
getting him out of his window seat. Could you imagine that enormous
mound of flesh waddling down the aisleway and fitting into the airline
commode?
That is quite subjective. He may have been a movie critic and not
liked any of Kevin's movies.
If the armrests were down and Kevin had his seat belt fastened, the
pilot is the one with the problem.
Yes I can, bozo. It happened on a daily basis and everything works
just fine.
Maybe some rich fat person should start an airline that kicks people
off if they are too skinny?
Turn about is fair play, so goes the cliche.
Why not. If no fat ass can get a seat, it is only a matter of time
before fat heads are banned. At that time you will be in trouble.
Prepare now and take the train.
>In article <g67kn5ldjs7u0o6d3...@4ax.com>,
> Lady Veteran <arm...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> There is not problem. Southwest Airlines is going to alienate the
>> wrong fat person one of these days and that fat person is going to own
>> the airline.
>
> No they won't. They have been sued numerous times over the course of 25
>years that they have had this policy and there is a now a rather fat (so
>to speak) file of case law that says they can. Besides, the
>discrimination laws are very specific about what are protected classes
>and fatties are not included.
It is not a matter of protected class. It is about protected CASH, and
in that group, fatties are included.
Maybe there should be a boycott of business who disrespect their
customers, because they enjoy a monopoly...SWA enjoys a monopoly on
unassigned seating in small planes.
OK NAAFA-you know what you need to do. Get busy.
The same goes for famous idiots as well.
Did I miss something where does it say that he had a colostomy?
Btw, I can imagine that mound of flesh waddling down the aisle and
fitting into the airline commode. Numerous fat people do it everyday
on commercial flights, and with little or no problems. Imagine that!
Those that are too big for the bathroom are rarely a problem as they
generally know they are too big for the accommodations and avoid the
in-flight bathroom if they can help it.
Ragnar
> OK NAAFA-you know what you need to do. Get busy.
NAAFA called for a boycott of SWA years ago and SWA has been the only
consistently profitable airline since then. What does that tell you
about the clout of NAAFA?
--
I spent a very uncomfortable flight in a window seat jammed between the
fuselage wall and a very overweight person in the middle seat. He may
have been able to get the armrests down at the lower level, but his
middle expended well beyond the armrests, taking up perhaps 1/4 of my
seat space. There wasn't a moment during the flight when my arm weren't
in firm contact with his.
I don't consider that simply getting the armrests down covers every
situation.
Luckily, it was a relatively short flight.
The point of my earlier post was simply that Smith wasn't getting a very
sympathetic reaction from commentators. He has an uphill battle if he
thinks people will boycott the airline because of the way he was treated.
Maybe a few like you might, but other airlines have similar policies, so
the same thing can happen with the alternatives.
> Those that are too big for the bathroom are rarely a problem as they
> generally know they are too big for the accommodations and avoid the
> in-flight bathroom if they can help it.
Like your wife?
--
So I suppose Smith and other Enormo's like him just wear a diaper and
relieve themselves right in the seat. Wonderful. If Smith's arms can't
move from being stuffed between the armrests, do the stewardesses just
shovel the open bags of peanuts right into his mouth?
I'm heartened to see that your therapy seems to be helping you.
>> It wasn't necessarily only the weight issue but where his colostomy
>> bag would be stored as once he was shoehorned in there would be no
>> getting him out of his window seat. Could you imagine that enormous
>> mound of flesh waddling down the aisleway and fitting into the
>> airline commode?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Did I miss something where does it say that he had a colostomy?
> Btw, I can imagine that mound of flesh waddling down the aisle and
> fitting into the airline commode. Numerous fat people do it everyday
> on commercial flights, and with little or no problems. Imagine that!
> Those that are too big for the bathroom are rarely a problem as they
> generally know they are too big for the accommodations and avoid the
> in-flight bathroom if they can help it.
>
> Ragnar
As opposed to just shitting in the seat like your wife does?
What's NAAFA stand for? Naturally Airlines Abhor Fat Asses?
National Association for the Abolition of Fat Americans?
--
JohnT
Are you living in her pocket? Is that how you think yourself uniquely
qualified to be obtuse?
They are called flight attendants and have been since the late 1970's.
I don't know where you have been since then but I wish you would go
back there.
Yeah just like his wife. In other words she is no problem on a plane,
especially since we already know she buys two seats. Self important
idiots like you are another matter.
Rags wife may be a huge load of wobbling lardflesh but at least she is
dumb enough to come here and make an ass out of herself like you and
your buds, lol.
W.
What do you think he wedges his arms between the rest as well? You
fucking tard.
W.
Ragnar, this idiot is even blow your standards for slime.
It tells me that they had better shit or get off the pot. The idiots
are running this asylum and I for one am tired of it.
Speaking of stinky feces-you are dismissed.
If you are going to stick your nose where it is not welcome, know your
target.
Look it up.
Your therapy has not done anything for your self confidence. You are
still invisible, idiot.
W.
he was reaching down to grab the seat belts as he lowered his massive
poundage into the seat and got the arms wedged solid between the
excessive flesh and the armrests. Obviously. Not sure how he took that
self portrait though, with the arms indisposed.
> I spent a very uncomfortable flight in a window seat jammed between the
> fuselage wall and a very overweight person in the middle seat. He may
> have been able to get the armrests down at the lower level, but his
> middle expended well beyond the armrests, taking up perhaps 1/4 of my
> seat space. There wasn't a moment during the flight when my arm weren't
> in firm contact with his.
<AOL>Me too!</AOL>
> Luckily, it was a relatively short flight.
Our was long haul...
--
F
No I don’t think that happens. But I suppose if you and your trailer
park brood can get away with it on your sponsored charity trip to
Disney World, my wife should be able to get away with it too.
Fortunately unlike you she is educated enough and classy enough to
understand that shitting your pants in public is unacceptable.
Ragnar
So if he can get his bulk and his arms between the arm rests, then
there is no problem now is there?
Ragnar
Ragnar
Sort of blows your theory all to hell, doesn't it?
Idiot.
All fat people should know their place.
--
But being an enormous inflated sweat hog is acceptable???? Maybe in
the ghetto it is but not in decent society.
W.
He's just disappointed. He would probably like nothing more than to
have Renee waddle past his asle seat, stick her huge sweaty ass in his
face and fart.
W.
> On Feb 16, 4:11�pm, "Herman" <herma...@individual.net> wrote:
>> "Ragnar" <rapierfen...@live.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:0bd8fe39-53f0-479f...@x9g2000vbo.googlegroups.com.
That's why she shits in airline seats, right?
Fucking oinkers.
Except the fat slob couldn't do it so his obese butt deservedly got kicked
off the plane.
He most certainly did. The pilot threw him off anyway. Idiots fly
planes too.
They do. The problem is that our space is infested with idiots and
know-nothi8ngs, Coward.
And you are a coward that has to ad what is not welcome. Who asked you
anyway?
Karma has a way of exacting revenge you know. The more you refuse to
respect your fellow human the more you lose yours.
Don't blame fat people for your loser life. Bet you beat your wife.
BTW, what is with this facination you trolls have with fat people and
their shit?
Ragnar
>Except the fat slob couldn't do it so his obese butt deservedly got kicked
>off the plane.
So why wouldn't SWA take him up on offer to perform a demo? As I
recall, Kevin Smith offered to put some money where his gut was.
The fat cow has milked this for all it's worth. It got his name in the
news for going on a week; maybe he should just "move on", but he
prefers to turn this into an ongoing elephant hump.
I don’t see anyone making you pay attention to it, maybe it’s you that
needs to move on.
Ragnar
>It is not a fascination at all. Very obese people often exhibit
>toilet practices that are abhorrent among polite society.
>
>I am given to understand that part of their unsanitary conditions is
>due to them not being able to properly cleanse themselves.
>
>The Reporter
Well, with The Reporter's first hand experience, I am sure we will all
know about where the sun doesn't shine.
Who would argue with an expert?
> Who would argue with an expert?
>
The real question is who would argue with a troll... multiple times?
--
I get off on '57 Chevys
I get off on screamin' guitars
--Eric Clapton
Because like most of the uneducated unwashed masses they are only
interested in the disgusting and the perverse.
W.
OK, after his obligatory weepy hour long Oprah interview on the topic.
>In article <iljrn5h3u0mje1q10...@4ax.com>,
> Lady Veteran <arm...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Who would argue with an expert?
>>
> The real question is who would argue with a troll... multiple times?
But swatting them with a virtual newspaper is sooo much fun.
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:40:49 -0500, Kurt Ullman <kurtu...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <iljrn5h3u0mje1q10...@4ax.com>,
> > Lady Veteran <arm...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Who would argue with an expert?
> >>
> > The real question is who would argue with a troll... multiple times?
>
> But swatting them with a virtual newspaper is sooo much fun.
>
>
Yeah but having all those little splooches of troll guts all over the
news group is so gross for the rest of us.
> BTW, what is with this facination you trolls have with fat people and
> their shit?
What made you decide to be an asswiping dwarf? Isn't that how you met
your super morbidly obese wife?
--
You watch Oprah???? LOL
Ragnar
Sorry dude who ever told that story was wrong. I met my wife while she
worked as a fat lady for Ringling Bros, in 1922. I was a lion tamer at
the time. Everyone knows that you dumb shit.
BTW, we're both over 100 years old so I think we deserve a little more
respect from you children.
What made you decide to be an asswipe, or was it forced upon you by
genetics?
Ragnar
Ah, the voice of experience.
Ragnar
I find it absolutely fascinating how these idiots are so obsessed with
fecal matter.
They are always talking about how fat people cannot wipe themselves.
How do they know? Do they live in that person's pocket and then play
with themselves while this person is taking care of their bodies?
Talk about gross. I don't think trolls bathe either. Maybe that is why
they have to come into SSFA and bother people who have never done
anything to them.
...and don't tell me you aint he to be an ass. The fact that you use
an anon server makes you suspect. If you were on the level you would
not need to hide.
You don't like others intruding in your territory?
Why do you insist on acting like you are in high school? Using a
remailer is a coward's way of saying "I poke and I run and I expect my
target to get the joke.
You are the joke. Get a life.
Helps dissipate the obnoxious smell of supporating fat too.
>On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:43:16 -0600, Lady Veteran <arm...@bigfoot.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On 20 Feb 2010 05:51:15 -0000, "Bust Her Crabs" <y...@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <ckstn5hpgcn5maovb...@4ax.com>
>>>Lady Veteran <arm...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 12:02:11 +0000 (UTC), "Dean" <de...@biteme.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >Ragnar wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> BTW, what is with this facination you trolls have with fat people and
>>>> >> their shit?
>>>> >
>>>> >What made you decide to be an asswiping dwarf? Isn't that how you met
>>>> >your super morbidly obese wife?
>>>>
>>>> ab...@eternal-september.org
>>>>
>>>> I find it absolutely fascinating how these idiots are so obsessed with
>>>> fecal matter.
>>>
>>>You don't like others intruding in your territory?
>>>
>>ab...@dizum.com
>>
>>Why do you insist on acting like you are in high school? Using a
>>remailer is a coward's way of saying "I poke and I run and I expect my
>>target to get the joke.
>>
>>You are the joke. Get a life.
>>
>>LV
>
>Poeple only need to post using a remailer when dealing with a loony
>nutcase such as yourself.
>
>Covert
Yeah? Well you have a lot of room to talk, COWARD! Calling me names
does not excuse the fact that you are hiding and poking like a
criminal with no good purpose.
If you think that is putting YOU in a good light you are a worse
TWEAKER than even I thought you were.
Stop buying crack Mr. Brain Dead.
> On 20 Feb 2010 05:51:15 -0000, "Bust Her Crabs" <y...@no.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <ckstn5hpgcn5maovb...@4ax.com>
>>Lady Veteran <arm...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 12:02:11 +0000 (UTC), "Dean" <de...@biteme.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Ragnar wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> BTW, what is with this facination you trolls have with fat people
>>> >> and their shit?
>>> >What made you decide to be an asswiping dwarf? Isn't that how you
>>> >met your super morbidly obese wife?
>>>
>>> ab...@eternal-september.org
>>>
>>> I find it absolutely fascinating how these idiots are so obsessed
>>> with fecal matter.
>>You don't like others intruding in your territory?
>>
> ab...@dizum.com
>
> Why do you insist on acting like you are in high school? Using a
> remailer is a coward's way of saying "I poke and I run and I expect my
> target to get the joke.
>
> You are the joke. Get a life.
>
> LV
If you were smart enough, or could read English or Italian, you might be
able to use a remailer too.
They are in German and Russian too, Mr. Loser.
I have plenty of smarts but when all my wit battles are with unarmed
people it is hardly a fair fight.
Enjoy the vermin file, Mr. Loser.
Any chance this could go to email? It's getting a little tedious.
--
F
Is this guy self-absorbed enough? And the irony, that he goes on and
on and on and on about this, saying he wishes folks would just drop
it.........by part 24 one may start to wonder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_rph_yqKrA
et al.......
Love the haiti relief ad running underneath throughout; maybe he's
donating a meal or two........
He's got something of a sense of humor about it at least. But how
about a diet? Does that ever factor in to his self-pity fest?
It will. I kill filed the loser so you should have peace now.
> It will. I kill filed the loser so you should have peace now.
>
> LV
BWAHAHAHAHAHA! You Obama voting simpleton!
If you have to hide and call names I think we know who the loser is in
this conversation, Coward.