Christina Applegate removed her breasts?!?!
MikeM
C The Shocker
> It won't ruin her sex appeal or anything, but I'll certainly miss them.
It wasn't her main feature, like Nikki Cox. But yeah, they'll be
missed.
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Nancy2
> It won't ruin her sex appeal or anything, but I'll certainly miss them.
Good for her, it was a hard decision and a smart one. She had only
one affected by cancer, but had tested positive for the gene that
connects breast and cervical cancer, and at least now, there's nothing
there to get cancer. I imagine her reconstructive surgery will make
her look as natural as ever.
How many guys would sacrifice one some of their naughty bits in the
same bid to remove a pre-destined cancer diagnosis? Not many, I bet.
Women are more than their parts, guys. How distasteful of you all to
concentrate on this one "attribute" of this young woman. You should
hide your heads in shame.
N.
Sal Video
like you have issues yourself.
And yes if I had testicular cancer and a doctor reccomended I remove both to
ensure I live longer I would.
"Nancy2" <nancy-...@uiowa.edu> wrote in message
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dave
"MikeM" <Mike...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> It won't ruin her sex appeal or anything, but I'll certainly miss them.
A terrible situation, but Chistina is faced it with courage. Breast
rebuilding is planned, so she will not be permanently mutilated. Note the
following from
http://www.usmagazine.com/news/christina-applegate-double-mastectomy-a-tough-choice
'Applegate, the 36-year-old star of Samantha Who?, is now "absolutely 100
percent clear and clean" of cancer and planning reconstructive surgery.
"I'm going to have cute boobs 'til I'm 90, so there's that," she joked.
"I'll have the best boobs in the nursing home. I'll be the envy of all the
ladies around the bridge table." '
Nancy2
> "dave" <d...@fish.net> wrote:
>
> >"MikeM" <MikePa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:f19afd17-d69c-4bf4...@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> >> It won't ruin her sex appeal or anything, but I'll certainly miss them.
>
> >A terrible situation, but Chistina is faced it with courage. Breast
> >rebuilding is planned, so she will not be permanently mutilated. Note the
> >following from
> >'Applegate, the 36-year-old star of Samantha Who?, is now "absolutely 100
> >percent clear and clean" of cancer and planning reconstructive surgery.
>
> >"I'm going to have cute boobs 'til I'm 90, so there's that," she joked.
> >"I'll have the best boobs in the nursing home. I'll be the envy of all the
> >ladies around the bridge table." '
>
> mastectomy a lot more if they had the courage to NOT get implants.
> Women who rush to reconstruction are essentially saying "I'm nothing
> without my breasts. I AM my breasts. If my breasts don't exist I
> don't exist. I'm nobody."
>
> I would love to see Applegate and every other woman in this situation
> flaunt her scarred chest and say "This is me, this is who I am, and
> I'm not ashamed of it." Now THAT would take courage.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Maybe you can't see beyond superficial value, but let me tell you,
there aren't any women's fashions designed for flat-chested women. If
nothing else, implants will help her look good in her clothes. Give
her a break.
N.
Nancy2
> One person posts a stupid remark and you refer to "you all"? Sounds to me
> like you have issues yourself.
When I said, "you all," I was referring to the first three posts in
this thread, all of which referred to how they would miss her
breasts. Reading comprehension not one of your strong suits, eh?
N.
Nancy2
That would be THREE people, at the time I read the thread.
N.
Nancy2
> "MikeM" <MikePa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f19afd17-d69c-4bf4...@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > It won't ruin her sex appeal or anything, but I'll certainly miss them.
>
> A terrible situation, but Chistina is faced it with courage. Breast
> rebuilding is planned, so she will not be permanently mutilated. Note the
> 'Applegate, the 36-year-old star of Samantha Who?, is now "absolutely 100
> percent clear and clean" of cancer and planning reconstructive surgery.
>
> "I'm going to have cute boobs 'til I'm 90, so there's that," she joked.
> "I'll have the best boobs in the nursing home. I'll be the envy of all the
> ladies around the bridge table." '
My response from the celebrities group:
> Good for her, it was a hard decision and a smart one. She had only
> one affected by cancer, but had tested positive for the gene that
> connects breast and cervical cancer, and at least now, there's nothing
> there to get cancer. I imagine her reconstructive surgery will make
> her look as natural as ever.
>
> How many guys would sacrifice one some of their naughty bits in the
> same bid to remove a pre-destined cancer diagnosis? Not many, I bet.
>
> Women are more than their parts, guys. It's distasteful and disgraceful to focus on breasts, when it's life or death.
N.
lat...@gmail.com
flaunt it. you raggity old feminist hag. Why not praise her for
courage to go through with what she needed to instead of attacking her
for doing what every normal person would...
"I'm nothing
without my breasts. I AM my breasts. If my breasts don't exist I
don't exist. I'm nobody."
That's what you got out of a woman dealing with a life threatening
issue and then recovering properly? Really? You are a fucking idiot. I
hope you get hit by a bus.
On Aug 19, 3:38 pm, wotevs <wot...@wot.eh.vah> wrote:
> "dave" <d...@fish.net> wrote:
>
> >"MikeM" <MikePa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:f19afd17-d69c-4bf4...@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> >> It won't ruin her sex appeal or anything, but I'll certainly miss them.
>
> >A terrible situation, but Chistina is faced it with courage. Breast
> >rebuilding is planned, so she will not be permanently mutilated. Note the
> >following from
> >http://www.usmagazine.com/news/christina-applegate-double-mastectomy-...
> >'Applegate, the 36-year-old star of Samantha Who?, is now "absolutely 100
> >percent clear and clean" of cancer and planning reconstructive surgery.
>
> >"I'm going to have cute boobs 'til I'm 90, so there's that," she joked.
> >"I'll have the best boobs in the nursing home. I'll be the envy of all the
> >ladies around the bridge table." '
>
rwa2play (Lost mode on)
> It won't ruin her sex appeal or anything, but I'll certainly miss them.
/me plays TAPS for Christina's boobies.
Ramona
> In article
> <f6dafe9f-1ee8-4617-a748-39932b75a...@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Nancy2 <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
> > How many guys would sacrifice one some of their naughty bits in the
> > same bid to remove a pre-destined cancer diagnosis? Not many, I bet.
>
> sexual identity, no matter the gender as a preventative cancer move.
Wow are you clueless. I recently had a mammogram. Before it even was
read by the radiologist, I felt a lump and called my breast surgeon.
I went into the office and had the lump removed before the mammogram
was read. When the reading came back, it seems my other breast had
some questionable calcifications while the breast WITH the lump on the
mammogram went undetected based on the density of my tissue. Yes,
that's right. The lump was not visible or detected using mammography.
So, mammograms are not even radiologist proof. A double mastectomy is
a wise choice and the choice my living cousin chose as opposed to my
dead aunt.
>
> By far the best thing anyone can do is get annual check ups, diet
> properly, don't smoke, exercise and do things in moderation. Prevention
> is still the strongest way to battle cancer.
>
> There are plenty of males who have to worry about losing parts or all
> their genitals via cancer, because DES was used up to 1971 to prevent
> miscarriages, and it is known to cause ovarian and testicular cancer of
> children of pregnant mothers taking DES.
Sal Video
On Aug 19, 2:26 pm, "Sal Video" <svi...@access.com> wrote:
> One person posts a stupid remark and you refer to "you all"? Sounds to me
> like you have issues yourself.
When I said, "you all," I was referring to the first three posts in
this thread, all of which referred to how they would miss her
breasts. Reading comprehension not one of your strong suits, eh?
Responding to the OP and saying "you all" indicates you have "man issues".
Bluuuue rAjAh
39932b...@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com:
> Women are more than their parts, guys.
Maybe if they're normal people, but not when they're Hollywood sex symbols.
:b
Thanatos
wotevs <wot...@wot.eh.vah> wrote:
> I for one would respect her and every other woman who's gone through
> mastectomy a lot more if they had the courage to NOT get implants.
> Women who rush to reconstruction are essentially saying "I'm nothing
> without my breasts. I AM my breasts. If my breasts don't exist I
> don't exist. I'm nobody."
So if you had skin cancer on your nose and they had to remove your nose,
you wouldn't get reconstructive surgery, opting instead to leave a
gaping hole in your face, because to do otherwise would be essentially
saying "I'm nothing without my nose. I AM my nose. If my nose doesn't
exist, I don't exist. I'm nobody"?
Drumrboy
>>>> "I'm going to have cute boobs 'til I'm 90, so there's that," she joked.
>>>> "I'll have the best boobs in the nursing home. I'll be the envy of all the
>>>> ladies around the bridge table." '
She's sounds like she has a great attitude for such a shitty situation.
JeWitch
"Drumrboy" <dru...@aql.com> wrote in message
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breasts ..
The Mighty TB
(snip)
> Exactly, Shitfoot. But these feminist women...they're insane. Listen
> Miss Dyke, as a guy, I identify myself as a guy with my dick, and I am
> nothing without it. If I had to get it removed, I would be depressed
> and feel like less of a man. Why wouldn't a woman feel the same about
> her boobies, unless of course she's a big fat Rosie O'Donnel dyke
> bitch who wants a sex change but can't afford it?
You "identify" yourself as a guy with your dick? So instead of shaking
hands and saying "hi, my name is Jimmy......" any time you meet somone, you
whip out that tiny tadger and bellow "I am man, hear me roar!"
Also, if you're bald and your head looks like a penis, does that make you
Superman? Or just a dickhead.
T.B.
Drumrboy
> Exactly, Shitfoot. But these feminist women...they're insane. Listen
> Miss Dyke, as a guy, I identify myself as a guy with my dick, and I am
> nothing without it. If I had to get it removed, I would be depressed
> and feel like less of a man. Why wouldn't a woman feel the same about
> her boobies, unless of course she's a big fat Rosie O'Donnel dyke
> bitch who wants a sex change but can't afford it?
Dude, don't take this the wrong way, but the next time you decide to
bring up "Little Jimmy" could you leave me out of it?
Just sayin....
Drumrboy
ahrahr.com> said:
> "JimmyM" wrote:
>
> (snip)
>
>> Exactly, Shitfoot. But these feminist women...they're insane. Listen
>> Miss Dyke, as a guy, I identify myself as a guy with my dick, and I am
>> nothing without it. If I had to get it removed, I would be depressed
>> and feel like less of a man. Why wouldn't a woman feel the same about
>> her boobies, unless of course she's a big fat Rosie O'Donnel dyke
>> bitch who wants a sex change but can't afford it?
>
> You "identify" yourself as a guy with your dick? So instead of shaking
> hands and saying "hi, my name is Jimmy......" any time you meet somone,
> you whip out that tiny tadger and bellow "I am man, hear me roar!"
I'm thinking this is "shock jock" Jimmmy.
>
> Also, if you're bald and your head looks like a penis, does that make
> you Superman? Or just a dickhead.
What if you put a light bulb in your mouth? Does that make you a
"festering" dickhead?
Drumrboy
I'd be more worried about the horse face, crossed eyes, adams apple,
man hands and size 24 feet.
Rob Jensen
<nancy-...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
>> How many guys would sacrifice one some of their naughty bits in the
>> same bid to remove a pre-destined cancer diagnosis? Not many, I bet.
Been there, done that. I have at least one thing that Lance Armstrong
doesn't.
-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
doomella
> I for one would respect her and every other woman who's gone through
> mastectomy a lot more if they had the courage to NOT get implants.
> Women who rush to reconstruction are essentially saying "I'm nothing
> without my breasts. I AM my breasts. If my breasts don't exist I
> don't exist. I'm nobody."
Excuse me, but what an idiotic post.
The Mighty TB
(snip)
>> She probably doesn't want to end up looking like Betho with her
>> cantaloupe breasts ..
>
> I'd be more worried about the horse face, crossed eyes, adams apple, man
> hands and size 24 feet.
I think Applegate actually has better common sense and taste in plastic
surgeons than going with a Stern show advertiser like Dr Frankenstein.
T.B.
Mallard
<nancy-...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
>On Aug 19, 1:15 pm, MikeM <MikePa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It won't ruin her sex appeal or anything, but I'll certainly miss them.
>
<snip>
Her docs gave her a choice, quit smoking, quit drinking and quit
drugging or lob off your tits.
JeWitch
"The Mighty TB" <partyslammer@sowcal. ahrahr.com> wrote in message
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Tyrone Thurman
Why the hell did she choose the last option!?!?!
There goes her career. Her cleavage was her main attraction.
It sure as hell wasn't her fugly face or her nicotine stained teeth.
Darth Chaos
> It won't ruin her sex appeal or anything, but I'll certainly miss them.
Jake Roberts...LIVES ON.
Rob Jensen
>I for one would respect her and every other woman who's gone through
>mastectomy a lot more if they had the courage to NOT get implants.
>Women who rush to reconstruction are essentially saying "I'm nothing
>without my breasts. I AM my breasts. If my breasts don't exist I
>don't exist. I'm nobody."
So apparently Taylor has a new secret identity . . .
Albert Giesbrecht
Mind you she had both removed, but she should still get a tattoo across her
chest.
Visaman
"JimmyM" <m...@nnn.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:13:12 -0700 (PDT), lat...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>You dirty old cunt rag.... why don't you disfigure YOURSELF then
>>flaunt it. you raggity old feminist hag. Why not praise her for
>>courage to go through with what she needed to instead of attacking her
>>for doing what every normal person would...
>>
>>"I'm nothing
>>without my breasts. I AM my breasts. If my breasts don't exist I
>>don't exist. I'm nobody."
>>
>>That's what you got out of a woman dealing with a life threatening
>>issue and then recovering properly? Really? You are a fucking idiot. I
>>hope you get hit by a bus.
>
> +1. Fuck you, you feminazi! The only women who feel that way are
> man-hating dykes.
SFTV_troy
Nancy2 wrote:
>
> Maybe you can't see beyond superficial value, but let me tell you,
> there aren't any women's fashions designed for flat-chested women. If
> nothing else, implants will help her look good in her clothes. Give
> her a break.
My friend is married to a "flat chested" woman (size A), and she looks
beautiful in her clothes. I don't buy this nonsense that you have to
have double-Ds to fill-out the clothing.
SFTV_troy
JimmyM wrote:
>
> Miss Dyke, as a guy, I identify myself as a guy with my dick, and I am
> nothing without it. If I had to get it removed, I would be depressed
> and feel like less of a man. Why wouldn't a woman feel the same about
> her boobies, unless of course she's a big fat Rosie O'Donnel dyke
Hmmm. Well there's no such thing as "dick cancer" but there is
testicular cancer, and if I had to have my testes to removed in order
to avoid that cancer, I'd gladly do it. And no I wouldn't feel less
of a man. And if I was a woman, I wouldn't feel less of a woman
without my breasts.
Part of aging is accepting loss. It's inevitable, but you're still a
human being, and that's what makes you worthwhile.
Ramona
>
>
>
> Ramona <atlram...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 19, 4:43 pm, comadrejo <comadrejoa...@mac.com> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <f6dafe9f-1ee8-4617-a748-39932b75a...@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > Nancy2 <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
> > > > How many guys would sacrifice one some of their naughty bits in the
> > > > same bid to remove a pre-destined cancer diagnosis? Not many, I bet.
>
> > > It would be idiotic to do some sort of gross disfigurement or removal of
> > > sexual identity, no matter the gender as a preventative cancer move.
> > Wow are you clueless. I recently had a mammogram. Before it even was
> > read by the radiologist, I felt a lump and called my breast surgeon.
> > I went into the office and had the lump removed before the mammogram
> > was read. When the reading came back, it seems my other breast had
> > some questionable calcifications while the breast WITH the lump on the
> > mammogram went undetected based on the density of my tissue. Yes,
> > that's right. The lump was not visible or detected using mammography.
> > So, mammograms are not even radiologist proof. A doublemastectomyis
> > a wise choice and the choice my living cousin chose as opposed to my
> > dead aunt.
>
> your doctor goes ahead with a lumpectomy without getting the mammogram
> or setting up an MRI and further tests., besides you seemed quiet about
> the biopsy of alleged lump.
I felt the lump a couple of days after the mammogram which prompted me
to call the breast surgeon even before the results came back from the
mammogram. If you think the story is B.S., next time you go to the
dr. ask if extremely dense breast tissue is problematic for radiology
reads. Better yet, just google dense breast tissue and mammography.
What does the result of my biopsy matter? The problem remains, I
received mammography and after two doctors read it, they still did not
see the lump that I was able to feel...until ultrasound.
>
> A doublemastectomyisn't a wise choice in the stage of breast cancer
> that Christina Applegate allegedly is in. Besides, I don't hear her
> screaming that she got a hysterectomy or a trachelectomy as well. given
> she is at the same high risk for cervical cancer. Double mastectomies
> are the Nancy Reagan way of doing things.
>
> If you think that I am clueless about breast cancer,
No, what you are clueless about it your belief that mammography
catches everything. My case of a completely missed lump, based on
extremely dense tissue, is not unique.
all the power to
> you, but I had two close relatives go through it. Doublemastectomyfor
> one, lumpectomy and lymph node removal for another.
But did both also have the genetic marker for breast cancer? Not all
breast cancers are created equal and not all individuals have the same
risk. Some women, again based on the marker, have risks that prompt
them to make choices so that they never need worry about the issue
ever again. While you cannot appreciate the ability for choice based
on risk factors, I certainly can. Again, mammography missed a lump
that was visualized using ultrasound.
chatnoir
> On Aug 19, 1:15 pm, MikeM <MikePa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It won't ruin her sex appeal or anything, but I'll certainly miss them.
>
> one affected by cancer, but had tested positive for the gene that
> connects breast and cervical cancer, and at least now, there's nothing
> there to get cancer. I imagine her reconstructive surgery will make
> her look as natural as ever.
But can she thing or write or talk after having her main persona
removed?
>
> How many guys would sacrifice one some of their naughty bits in the
> same bid to remove a pre-destined cancer diagnosis? Not many, I bet.
Most men don't have enough even for a little trimming
>
> Women are more than their parts, guys.
Then they should act like it!
How distasteful of you all to
> concentrate on this one "attribute" of this young woman. You should
> hide your heads in shame.
> N.
Bluuuue rAjAh
0b334d...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
> there's no such thing as "dick cancer"
doomella
<pikrodafni@death_to_spammers_noos.fr.invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:32:14 -0700 (PDT), in alt.gossip.celebrities, doomella
> <Doomell...@gmail.com> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... On Aug 19, 3:38 pm, wotevs <wot...@wot.eh.vah> wrote:
> ...
> ... > I for one would respect her and every other woman who's gone through
> ... > mastectomy a lot more if they had the courage to NOT get implants.
> ... > Women who rush to reconstruction are essentially saying "I'm nothing
> ... > without my breasts. I AM my breasts. If my breasts don't exist I
> ... > don't exist. I'm nobody."
> ...
> ... Excuse me, but what an idiotic post.
>
> Why, without your breasts you are not a woman?
>
> That's sad.
What's with all the stupid conclusions? Of course you're "still a
woman" without breasts. I find it odd that, just because this woman is
getting reconstructive surgery after going through the horror of
cancer, one poster interprets it as a statement that she's "nobody
without her breasts" and you spew out that she did it because she's
"not a woman" without her breasts. Maybe she just wants to be the way
she was before and has been through enough trauma? If you lost all
your teeth in an accident would you remain toothless in order to make
some bizarre point that you're "something" without teeth?
I hate big breasts and am usually pretty disgusted by all these stupid
women getting breast implants left and right, but replacing the
breasts you lost is a rather different story.
SFTV_troy
Bluuuue rAjAh wrote:
>
> http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/types/penile/
Alright. I stand corrected. However I still think my original
comparison of Testicular cancer versus Breast cancer is more
accurate. A woman can have a masectomy and still enjoy sex with her
partner... she shouldn't feel diminished. Likewise I would not feel
any less of a person without my testes... it's better than the
alternative.
doomella
It's a better analogy, but still, your testes don't feature
prominently every time you put on a T-shirt or a bathing suit. This
isn't just about sex, it's about looking basically the way you looked
before after having a body part removed. I think it's more analogous
to losing your two front teeth and then being called "shallow" for
going to the dentist because you don't want to spend the rest of your
life by flashing a big goofy hillbilly gap every time you open your
mouth.
doomella
>
> Ramona <atlram...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > If you think that I am clueless about breast cancer,
> > No, what you are clueless about it your belief that mammography
> > catches everything. My case of a completely missed lump, based on
> > extremely dense tissue, is not unique.
>
> I wrote that getting annual checkups, leading a healthy lifestyle is
> probably still the best defense against cancer. Trying to lower as many
> of the risk factors as possible.
>
> What Christina Applegate did was stupid, if she was in a early stage
> of breast cancer. If she was so adamant in getting a double mastectomy,
> she would had gotten a hysterectomy and an oophorectomy thrown in as
> well.
Why? Was she at risk for uterine and ovarian cancer?
She had a history of aggressive breast cancer in her family. This has
nothing to do with a "healthy lifestyle." There are families in which
the grandmother, mother, aunts and sisters all have it, and you really
can't blame someone who takes this route in that situation. When you
get it that early, it also tends to be much more aggressive.
raoul
comadrejo <comadr...@mac.com> wrote:
> In article
> <03026e2b-0f6f-4334...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
> Ramona <atlr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > If you think that I am clueless about breast cancer,
> > No, what you are clueless about it your belief that mammography
> > catches everything. My case of a completely missed lump, based on
> > extremely dense tissue, is not unique.
>
> Where in the world did I write that mammograms catched everything?!?!?
> I wrote that getting annual checkups, leading a healthy lifestyle is
> probably still the best defense against cancer. Trying to lower as many
> of the risk factors as possible.
>
> What Christina Applegate did was stupid, if she was in a early stage
> of breast cancer. If she was so adamant in getting a double mastectomy,
> she would had gotten a hysterectomy and an oophorectomy thrown in as
> well.
She made a choice based on the information she had at hand. I would
hope that she weighed the possible advantages with the possible
disadvantages and made the choice she would live with.
Informed personal choice is a good thing.
Nancy2
> On Aug 19, 4:43 pm, comadrejo <comadrejoa...@mac.com> wrote:> In article
> > <f6dafe9f-1ee8-4617-a748-39932b75a...@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > Nancy2 <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
> > > same bid to remove a pre-destined cancer diagnosis? Not many, I bet.
>
> > sexual identity, no matter the gender as a preventative cancer move.
>
> Wow are you clueless. I recently had a mammogram. Before it even was
> read by the radiologist, I felt a lump and called my breast surgeon.
> I went into the office and had the lump removed before the mammogram
> was read. When the reading came back, it seems my other breast had
> some questionable calcifications while the breast WITH the lump on the
> mammogram went undetected based on the density of my tissue. Yes,
> that's right. The lump was not visible or detected using mammography.
> So, mammograms are not even radiologist proof. A double mastectomy is
> a wise choice and the choice my living cousin chose as opposed to my
> dead aunt.
>
>
>
>
>
> > properly, don't smoke, exercise and do things in moderation. Prevention
> > is still the strongest way to battle cancer.
>
> > There are plenty of males who have to worry about losing parts or all
> > their genitals via cancer, because DES was used up to 1971 to prevent
> > miscarriages, and it is known to cause ovarian and testicular cancer of
>
> - Show quoted text -
You are right, and the poster IS clueless. Applegate had the gene
that indicates a predisposition to breast AND cervical cancer; she had
cancer in one breast and opted to remove them both. My sister-in-law
did the same exact thing, and doesn't think it's any big deal, and
neither does her husband, my brother. She loves not having that fat
hanging around because it makes it a lot easier and more comfortable
for her to resume running. ;-)
Each to own, and all that. I know if I had that gene, and cancer in
one breast, it would be an absolute no brainer to rid myself of any
chance of any cancer recurring.
N.
doomella
> In article <200820080936483410%gr8ra...@yahoo.com>,
>
>
>
> raoul <gr8ra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > In article <comadrejoagua-70E3C4.09103720082...@news.giganews.com>,> > > <03026e2b-0f6f-4334-8430-784efffe0...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
> > > Ramona <atlram...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > If you think that I am clueless about breast cancer,
> > > > No, what you are clueless about it your belief that mammography
> > > > catches everything. My case of a completely missed lump, based on
> > > > extremely dense tissue, is not unique.
>
> > > Where in the world did I write that mammograms catched everything?!?!?
> > > I wrote that getting annual checkups, leading a healthy lifestyle is
> > > probably still the best defense against cancer. Trying to lower as many
> > > of the risk factors as possible.
>
> > > What Christina Applegate did was stupid, if she was in a early stage
> > > of breast cancer. If she was so adamant in getting a double mastectomy,
> > > she would had gotten a hysterectomy and an oophorectomy thrown in as
> > > well.
>
> > She made a choice based on the information she had at hand. I would
> > hope that she weighed the possible advantages with the possible
> > disadvantages and made the choice she would live with.
>
> > Informed personal choice is a good thing.
>
> I get kind of peeved by "Medicine by Publicists", by putting her on
> "Good Morning America" and describing what she did was very brave. It
> wasn't brave, it was stupid.
>
> Mastectomies, radical or otherwise is a proper medical procedure,
> but it should be used more as a stopgap measure than as a cureall. I am
> pretty sure that most oncologists wouldn't recommend double mastectomies
> in the early stages of breast cancer, no matter her risk factors. Double
> Mastectomies is an option, it is more for patients who don't want to
> deal with chemotherapy or radiation in the early stages of breast
> cancer. Even Christina Applegate had a malignant tumor in her lobules.
>
> If she is so worried that she is so high risked for cancer given that
> what her mother went through, then she would had gotten a hysterectomy
> and a oophorectomy as well.
With all due respect, you really should learn a little more about
different kinds of breast cancer.
You're right about early detection being more than enough for most
people. I sure as hell wouldn't get a breast, let alone two, lopped
off because of a microscopic tumor. But I do know of a family in
which the grandmother died of it in her forties, the mother and her
twin sister both died in their early thirties, and two of the four
daughters were diagnosed with cancer before they were 35. When your
odds are that high (and they are, in many cases) and you're basically
just waiting for that dreaded diagnosis, I can certainly understand
wanting the peace of mind. I think it's really difficult to imagine
being in that predicament without, well, being in it.
doomella
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5gl8pb
>
> Anxiety and hysteria shouldn't be weapons in fighting breast cancer, no
> matter how overpowering the fear and anxiety can be to the patient.
>
> CA's mother, if you didn't know had cervical cancer as well. Whether
> the cancer came from HPV or it was from genetics, I don't know.
Hey, I'm not saying everyone should chop their fucking tits off. I'm
just saying that you can't lump (no pun) all breast cancer patients
together, and that it's silly to call her decision "stupid," as you
did. Had she chosen not to get the surgery, I wouldn't have called her
"stupid" either. I'm not in her shoes.
If being "informed" means reading one rather vague and pedestrian
article in the St. Petersburg Times, then I guess you're informed. I
just think it's odd that you react with such hysteria to her decision,
which certainly isn't an easy one, but one that has saved lives and
maybe helped some women in very unique situations live without fear. I
doubt people are going to run out to get double mastectomies merely
because Christina Applegate did.
Cervical cancer doesn't have nearly the mortality rate as breast
cancer does and is very easily detectable and treatable. You can't
compare the two.
Ramona
> In article <200820080936483410%gr8ra...@yahoo.com>,
>
>
>
> raoul <gr8ra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > In article <comadrejoagua-70E3C4.09103720082...@news.giganews.com>,
> > > Ramona <atlram...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > If you think that I am clueless about breast cancer,
> > > > No, what you are clueless about it your belief that mammography
> > > > catches everything. My case of a completely missed lump, based on
> > > > extremely dense tissue, is not unique.
>
> > > Where in the world did I write that mammograms catched everything?!?!?
> > > I wrote that getting annual checkups, leading a healthy lifestyle is
> > > probably still the best defense against cancer. Trying to lower as many
> > > of the risk factors as possible.
>
> > > What Christina Applegate did was stupid, if she was in a early stage
> > > of breast cancer. If she was so adamant in getting a double mastectomy,
> > > she would had gotten a hysterectomy and an oophorectomy thrown in as
> > > well.
>
> > She made a choice based on the information she had at hand. I would
> > hope that she weighed the possible advantages with the possible
> > disadvantages and made the choice she would live with.
>
> > Informed personal choice is a good thing.
>
> I get kind of peeved by "Medicine by Publicists", by putting her on
> "Good Morning America" and describing what she did was very brave. It
> wasn't brave, it was stupid.
>
> Mastectomies, radical or otherwise is a proper medical procedure,
> but it should be used more as a stopgap measure than as a cureall. I am
> pretty sure that most oncologists wouldn't recommend double mastectomies
> in the early stages of breast cancer, no matter her risk factors. Double
> Mastectomies is an option, it is more for patients who don't want to
> deal with chemotherapy or radiation in the early stages of breast
> cancer. Even Christina Applegate had a malignant tumor in her lobules.
>
> If she is so worried that she is so high risked for cancer
longer AT RISK, but diagnosed with the corresponding marker that
demanded she begin observation at age 30. Fortunately for her, the
calcifications or whatever type of cells were involved, were detected
unlike for those women with dense breast tissue. While you might
think it a great idea, additional exposure to radiation directed at
the breast with mammography and likely follow-up ultrasound every 3 to
6 months post diagnosis won't likely help the cancer stay away either.
Yes, there is ultimately risk in the procedure itself.
Breast surgeons do consider the double mastectomy a legitimate
option for women in her circumstance, even if you don't like it. She
is a hero to the many women that do not identify their personalities
as something to be relegated to the back seat to their breasts, again
based on risks up to 85% higher than the average woman.
While you might consider the fat between your shoulders as your
identity, I identify myself through what is between my ears.
> what her mother went through, then she would had gotten a hysterectomy
> and a oophorectomy as well.
No need since the risk for ovarian cancer, even with the marker, is
significantly lower than for breast cancer. Now try a topic in which
you didn't get your facts from People magazine, the National Enquirer,
or Star.
Hunter
Mike...@gmail.com says...
> It won't ruin her sex appeal or anything, but I'll certainly miss them.
I was very disappointed when Queen Latifah and I think Catherine Bell got a breast
reductions. Sad days.
--
----->Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
chatnoir
> On Aug 19, 2:38 pm, wotevs <wot...@wot.eh.vah> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "dave" <d...@fish.net> wrote:
>
> > >"MikeM" <MikePa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > >news:f19afd17-d69c-4bf4...@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > >rebuilding is planned, so she will not be permanently mutilated. Note the
> > >following from
> > >http://www.usmagazine.com/news/christina-applegate-double-mastectomy-...
> > >'Applegate, the 36-year-old star of Samantha Who?, is now "absolutely 100
> > >percent clear and clean" of cancer and planning reconstructive surgery.
>
> > >"I'm going to have cute boobs 'til I'm 90, so there's that," she joked.
> > >"I'll have the best boobs in the nursing home. I'll be the envy of all the
> > >ladies around the bridge table." '
>
>
> > flaunt her scarred chest and say "This is me, this is who I am, and
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> there aren't any women's fashions designed for flat-chested women. If
> nothing else, implants will help her look good in her clothes. Give
> her a break.
>
Why should she worry about such?????
raoul
<buffh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> In article
> <f19afd17-d69c-4bf4...@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> Mike...@gmail.com says...
> > It won't ruin her sex appeal or anything, but I'll certainly miss them.
> ---
> I was very disappointed when Queen Latifah and I think Catherine Bell got a
> breast
> reductions. Sad days.
Dana's still got some big 'uns...
The Unbearable Frightfulness of Linger-ing
> In article <MPG.23160a099f03bab498a...@news.optonline.net>, Hunter
>
> <buffhun...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <f19afd17-d69c-4bf4-ab39-2a514ee7f...@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> > MikePa...@gmail.com says...
> > > It won't ruin her sex appeal or anything, but I'll certainly miss them.
> > ---
> > I was very disappointed when Queen Latifah and I think Catherine Bell got a
> > breast
> > reductions. Sad days.
>
> Dana's still got some big 'uns...
Queen Latifah's probably gave/still give her back and shoulder
problems. She may be a large gal, but she's still very pretty.
S*Babykins
Edward McArdle
<95c2bd23-5713-4fde...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
SFTV_troy <SFTV...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Treatment for prostate cancer doesn't *remove* your organs. It just may
mean they don't work any more. I had treatment eleven years ago. I'm OK. I
remember erections. <sigh>
--
Edward McArdle
Turin
> "dave" <d...@fish.net> wrote:
>
> >"MikeM" <MikePa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:f19afd17-d69c-4bf4...@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> >rebuilding is planned, so she will not be permanently mutilated. Note the
> >following from
> >http://www.usmagazine.com/news/christina-applegate-double-mastectomy-...
> >'Applegate, the 36-year-old star of Samantha Who?, is now "absolutely 100
> >percent clear and clean" of cancer and planning reconstructive surgery.
>
> >"I'm going to have cute boobs 'til I'm 90, so there's that," she joked.
> >"I'll have the best boobs in the nursing home. I'll be the envy of all the
> >ladies around the bridge table." '
>
> I for one would respect her and every other woman who's gone through
> mastectomy a lot more if they had the courage to NOT get implants.
> Women who rush to reconstruction are essentially saying "I'm nothing
> without my breasts. I AM my breasts. If my breasts don't exist I
> don't exist. I'm nobody."
>
> I would love to see Applegate and every other woman in this situation
> flaunt her scarred chest and say "This is me, this is who I am, and
> I'm not ashamed of it." Now THAT would take courage.
It is pretty hypocritical. No doubt.
But, she is sexist and has gotten by on her looks in today's world of
equality, when she should've been aiming for merit. So, there's not
only some justice in this happening to her, but, her response is,
both, to be expected, and, doubly hypocritical, also. She's acting
the way she always has.
Pulling a stunt like that wouldn't make any statement ....after having
been part of the problem for so long. Women's issues - surrounded by
the "don't objectify me" motif - are a dead horse, because women
themselves are the only one's left who perpetuate them ...just as
blacks perpetuate their's, only, women push their's a lot moreso and
with a hell of a lot less justification than minorities have.
Men aren't making women objectify themselves. It's women,
themselves ...trying to make as much of a killing, as possible,
through double standards of their own making, and trying, as hard as
possible, to keep the special treatment coming as *long* as
possible.
- - -
The face of an angel, the charm of the devil ...the power of a god:
Turin
I have such sites to show you...
------------------------
http://www.myspace.com/turin_turambar
http://groups.google.com/group/Men_First/ ♂
http://turinturambar.fortunecity.com/blog/
------------------------
"He who changeth, altereth, misconstrueth, argueth with, deleteth, or
maketh a lie about these words or causeth them to not be known shall
burn in hell forever and ever...."
-----
doomella
> In article
> <95c2bd23-5713-4fde-851d-0b334d13f...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
But the previous poster was talking about testicular cancer, and they
do remove organs for that.
Turin
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:32:01 -0400, Drumrboy <drum...@aql.com> wrote:
> >On 2008-08-19 18:22:14 -0400, JimmyM <m...@nnn.com> said:
>
> >>>>> "I'm going to have cute boobs 'til I'm 90, so there's that," she joked.
> >>>>> "I'll have the best boobs in the nursing home. I'll be the envy of all the
> >>>>> ladies around the bridge table." '
>
>
> Exactly, Shitfoot. But these feminist women...they're insane. Listen
> Miss Dyke, as a guy, I identify myself as a guy with my dick, and I am
> nothing without it. If I had to get it removed, I would be depressed
> and feel like less of a man. Why wouldn't a woman feel the same about
> her boobies, unless of course she's a big fat Rosie O'Donnel dyke
Because it's possible to live, at least, a bit higher above the animal
level, than that of glorified whores and Joe-Schmuck pity-fucks who
can never get the women they want, anyway.
Besides, like a lot of corporate-created female-stereotype ideals,
Applegate excels in one area and is kind of plain in the rest: her
pretty face. There aren't actually that many really "beautiful" women
in programming. Same goes for the consumer-created average: either
physically passable to women, but (intentionally) too damn dopey to be
in control of their own lives, or smart, but physically repulsive.
These male and female stereotypes are optimum to keep large numbers of
artificially handicapped human beings enslaved as dumbed-down, health-
impeded fools buying their products within a mean, shallow little rat
race of cradle-to-grave consumerism (capitalism).
What sets us apart from the animals is our abilities to use our brains
to get somewhat past the superficial...
- - -
His Greatness is exceeded only by his Magnificence:
raoul
P.K.
Thanatos wrote:
> In article <mv7ma4lboa1q4pshl...@4ax.com>,
> wotevs <wot...@wot.eh.vah> wrote:
>
> > I for one would respect her and every other woman who's gone through
> > mastectomy a lot more if they had the courage to NOT get implants.
> > Women who rush to reconstruction are essentially saying "I'm nothing
> > without my breasts. I AM my breasts. If my breasts don't exist I
> > don't exist. I'm nobody."
>
> So if you had skin cancer on your nose and they had to remove your nose,
> you wouldn't get reconstructive surgery, opting instead to leave a
> gaping hole in your face, because to do otherwise would be essentially
> saying "I'm nothing without my nose. I AM my nose. If my nose doesn't
> exist, I don't exist. I'm nobody"?
P.K.
JimmyM wrote:
P.K.
Magda wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:32:14 -0700 (PDT), in alt.gossip.celebrities, doomella
> <Doome...@gmail.com> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... On Aug 19, 3:38 pm, wotevs <wot...@wot.eh.vah> wrote:
> ...
> ... > I for one would respect her and every other woman who's gone through
> ... > mastectomy a lot more if they had the courage to NOT get implants.
> ... > Women who rush to reconstruction are essentially saying "I'm nothing
> ... > without my breasts. I AM my breasts. If my breasts don't exist I
> ... > don't exist. I'm nobody."
> ...
> ... Excuse me, but what an idiotic post.
>
> Why, without your breasts you are not a woman?
>
> That's sad.
>
> =====
> It sounds much better in French, but then, everything does.
P.K.
SFTV_troy wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
> >
> > Maybe you can't see beyond superficial value, but let me tell you,
> > there aren't any women's fashions designed for flat-chested women. If
> > nothing else, implants will help her look good in her clothes. Give
> > her a break.
>
> My friend is married to a "flat chested" woman (size A), and she looks
> beautiful in her clothes. I don't buy this nonsense that you have to
> have double-Ds to fill-out the clothing.
P.K.
SFTV_troy wrote:
> JimmyM wrote:
> >
> > Miss Dyke, as a guy, I identify myself as a guy with my dick, and I am
> > nothing without it. If I had to get it removed, I would be depressed
> > and feel like less of a man. Why wouldn't a woman feel the same about
> > her boobies, unless of course she's a big fat Rosie O'Donnel dyke
>
lat...@gmail.com
>
> >"MikeM" <MikePa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:f19afd17-d69c-4bf4...@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> >rebuilding is planned, so she will not be permanently mutilated. Note the
> >following from
> >http://www.usmagazine.com/news/christina-applegate-double-mastectomy-...
> >'Applegate, the 36-year-old star of Samantha Who?, is now "absolutely 100
> >percent clear and clean" of cancer and planning reconstructive surgery.
>
> >"I'll have the best boobs in the nursing home. I'll be the envy of all the
> >ladies around the bridge table." '
>
>
> flaunt her scarred chest and say "This is me, this is who I am, and
> I'm not ashamed of it." Now THAT would take courage.
Wotev is a dirty cunt ;)
Rome
> In article <MPG.23160a099f03bab498a...@news.optonline.net>, Hunter
>
> <buffhun...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <f19afd17-d69c-4bf4-ab39-2a514ee7f...@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> > > It won't ruin her sex appeal or anything, but I'll certainly miss them.
> > ---
> > I was very disappointed when Queen Latifah and I think Catherine Bell got a
> > breast
> > reductions. Sad days.
>
> Dana's still got some big 'uns...
Dana who?
Hunter
Not as big as they were. :-(
Hunter
serene...@lycos.com says...
Seriously if they were hurting her then by all means lop them off. Another reason is
that her breast were growing so huge she probably started to get problems getting
acting gigs.
SFTV_troy
> On Aug 20, 11:38 am, SFTV_troy <SFTV_t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > A woman can have a masectomy and still enjoy sex with her
> > partner... she shouldn't feel diminished. Likewise I would not feel
> > any less of a person without my testes... it's better than the
> > alternative.
>
> It's a better analogy, but still, your testes don't feature
> prominently every time you put on a T-shirt or a bathing suit. This
> isn't just about sex, it's about looking basically the way you looked
> before after having a body part removed.....
And as I stated before, my friend has a flat-chested wife, but I still
think she looks beautiful (lovely black hair, gymnast-like body,
lovely smile). Women need to get past the idea that they are ugly if
they don't have double-Ds.
As for diminishing looks: It's called aging. You ARE going to lose
your looks - wrinkled faced, gray hair, sagging skin, yellowing teeth,
and so on. (You are not always going to look identical to your 20-
year-old self.)
Isn't it better to accept your failing body, rather than live in
denial?
Bluuuue rAjAh
news:83d9f1a1-1243-4a2f...@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
> On Aug 20, 10:51 am, doomella <Doomell...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Aug 20, 11:38 am, SFTV_troy <SFTV_t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > A woman can have a masectomy and still enjoy sex with her
>> > partner... she shouldn't feel diminished. Likewise I would not
>> > feel any less of a person without my testes... it's better than the
>> > alternative.
>>
>> It's a better analogy, but still, your testes don't feature
>> prominently every time you put on a T-shirt or a bathing suit. This
>> isn't just about sex, it's about looking basically the way you looked
>> before after having a body part removed.....
>
> And as I stated before, my friend has a flat-chested wife, but I still
> think she looks beautiful (lovely black hair, gymnast-like body,
> lovely smile). Women need to get past the idea that they are ugly if
> they don't have double-Ds.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with being flat-chested, and in many
ways, those women have better bods than the ones with big jugs. That's
because the ones with the big jugs are almost invariably fat, and it's
effectively impossibly to find a skinny woman with big breasts.
> As for diminishing looks: It's called aging. You ARE going to lose
> your looks - wrinkled faced, gray hair, sagging skin, yellowing teeth,
> and so on. (You are not always going to look identical to your 20-
> year-old self.)
>
> Isn't it better to accept your failing body, rather than live in
> denial?
You have to feel equally sorry for the middle-aged guys, as for the
women. We've also lost our looks, but still think we have a chance with
the hot chicks. Of course, the hot chicks give us false hope, because
first they give us a flirty look, and then when we respond to it, they
give us a look like we're losers and fools. It's no wonder misogyny is
so rampant.
Bluuuue rAjAh
news:3h30b45b073kvo1pm...@4ax.com:
> Bluuuue rAjAh <Bluuuuue@Rajah.> wrote:
>
>>SFTV_troy <SFTV...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>news:83d9f1a1-1243-4a2f-b3cb-
1c3438...@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
> Ha ha ha....gotta give it to you, Smithy. Evey though 90% of your
> posts are vacuous fluff, and 5% are cranky comments, the other 5% are
> really good. This one was spot on. That's why I read your messages,
> looking for that 5% that are pretty good. ;)
I am cranky, aren't I? I'm the poster child for curmudgeon-hood. I've
decided that I'm not going to be so mean to middle-aged women, at least
util they're mean to me first, because I just can't go through life
hating everybody that I come across. That'll probably last about three
days. :b
doomella
> On Aug 20, 10:51 am,doomella<Doomell...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 20, 11:38 am, SFTV_troy <SFTV_t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > A woman can have a masectomy and still enjoy sex with her
> > > partner... she shouldn't feel diminished. Likewise I would not feel
> > > any less of a person without my testes... it's better than the
> > > alternative.
>
> > It's a better analogy, but still, your testes don't feature
> > prominently every time you put on a T-shirt or a bathing suit. This
> > isn't just about sex, it's about looking basically the way you looked
> > before after having a body part removed.....
>
> And as I stated before, my friend has a flat-chested wife, but I still
> think she looks beautiful (lovely black hair, gymnast-like body,
> lovely smile). Women need to get past the idea that they are ugly if
> they don't have double-Ds.
Please. I find large breasts quite unattractive. This has nothing to
do with "double D's" (they make A size implants, don't they?) or about
the normal signs of aging but about a loss/deformity. Your friend's
wife is merely flat-chested; she didn't have a chunk of her body
lopped off. There's a huge difference there. That's like saying, to
somebody whose nose got lopped off in a lawn-mowing accident, that
your friend's wife has a tiny little nose that you find adorable.
I have no problem if a post-mastectomy woman doesn't get
reconstructive surgery but I certainly wouldn't start pontificating
about what a woman should do if she does choose to get implants
afterwards.
>As for diminishing looks: It's called aging. You ARE going to lose
>your looks - wrinkled faced, gray hair, sagging skin, yellowing teeth,
>and so on. (You are not always going to look identical to your 20-
year-old self.)
>Isn't it better to accept your failing body, rather than live in
>denial?
What does "denial" or aging have to do with any of this? Christina
Applegate isn't an old woman, and surgically removing a breast or two
isn't a sign of aging, it's a sign of cancer and radical surgery.
She's not denying anything, she's come right out and admitted it. It's
not about looking like you're "20"--this isn't like getting a face
lift and projectile stripper-tit implants. It's about corrective
surgery to counter the somewhat barbaric effects of another type of
radical surgery. A woman with a scarred, concave, post-surgical chest
looks nothing like your friend's wife.
If you lost a bunch of prominent teeth due to gum disease at 55 would
you chalk it up to "aging" and walk around flashing a backwoods
Appalachian grin for the rest of your life?
Big J
eb7f88...@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com:
...and more to your point, many men who lose a testicle due to cancer
have an implant. One told me his wife would understand, but he wanted to
"look right" when in the shower at the gym.
Big J
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doomella
> doomella <Doomell...@gmail.com> wrote in news:8c33a21c-ff11-480c-a8e6-
> eb7f889a7...@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com:
Thank you.
I'm always amazed at how this kind of issue brings people (who have
never been through such circumstances) to jump to such odd, judgmental
conclusions about their motives. ("I am nothing without my testicle! I
AM my testicle!"..how absurd) I'm basically anti-plastic surgery for
the most part but even I fully understand corrective surgery in
situations such as this and couldn't even begin to fathom being in
that situation, let alone wagging my sanctimonious finger over such
decisions.
Bluuuue rAjAh
> Bluuuue rAjAh <Bluuuuue@Rajah.> wrote:
>
>>I am cranky, aren't I? I'm the poster child for curmudgeon-hood.
>>I've decided that I'm not going to be so mean to middle-aged women, at
>>least util they're mean to me first, because I just can't go through
>>life hating everybody that I come across. That'll probably last about
>>three days. :b
>
> More like three minutes. :p
>
> Besides, think about it...if you're mean to middle-aged women, soon
> you'll have no one to talk to around here!
They've already written me off, and I do have nobody to talk to around
here. The funny thing is, since the group has disintegrated, I think
they've written the entire place off. But it looks like new people are
slowly starting to trickle in.
Bluuuue Rajah
> Bluuuue rAjAh <Bluuuuue@Rajah.> wrote:
>
>>Whoopie Goldstein <whoopieg...@hasidictwinsister.il> wrote in
>>news:ooc0b4tgm5khechok...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Bluuuue rAjAh <Bluuuuue@Rajah.> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am cranky, aren't I? I'm the poster child for curmudgeon-hood.
>>>>I've decided that I'm not going to be so mean to middle-aged women,
>>>>at least util they're mean to me first, because I just can't go
>>>>through life hating everybody that I come across. That'll probably
>>>>last about three days. :b
>>>
>>> More like three minutes. :p
>>>
>>> Besides, think about it...if you're mean to middle-aged women, soon
>>> you'll have no one to talk to around here!
>>
>>They've already written me off
>
> Well, truth be told, sometimes you do ask for it.
There's no doubt that I can get into a mood.
>>and I do have nobody to talk to around
>>here. The funny thing is, since the group has disintegrated, I think
>>they've written the entire place off. But it looks like new people
>>are slowly starting to trickle in.
>
> You have to understand, this newsgroup is like junior high. Cliques
> abound. It's sort of like the movie Mean Girls, except it's older
> women instead of teenagers.
I'm not interested in being in any cliques with mean women.
> Basically, you got two main cliques: the old (let's call them
> middle-aged to be kind) women. Fat, lonely and pathetic according to
> some. And then you got the homosexuals - bitter, angry, and with lots
> of 'tude. So basically the fags and the fag hags.
That actually sounds pretty accurate. There are straight guys also, and
excluding the nutjobs and the really vulgar ones, those seem to be the
people I wind up chatting with.
I just got the *plonk* treatment from a guy in sci.physics, and how the
hell he knew I used to do that is beyond me. Fortunately he's just a
pretender, so I won't lose any good discussions by having been plonked.
:)
> They've been here
> since the beginning, so they're entrenched. You're never gonna win a
> fight against them; they'll scratch your eyes out before you even
> start.
>
> So do what every outcast in junior high does - find the group with the
> lonely outliers, the geeks and dorks, and try to gain acceptance
> there. Some of them can be pretty cool and tolerant, but they won't
> let you in easily. You might want to siddle up to Spangles, for
> example; she's okay unless you really annoy her.
She's one of the angry middle aged women.
> Or katorze/quatorze.
He's a nutjob.
> If you polish his high heels, brush his wigs, and dust his feather
> boas a few times he'll come around.
When I cleaned out my killfile a few weeks ago, he was one of the first
few I put back in, and since I don't care for gays, polishing heels is
not an option.
doomella
<pikrodafni@death_to_spammers_noos.fr.invalid> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:04:52 -0700 (PDT), in alt.gossip.celebrities,doomella
> <Doomell...@gmail.com> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... If you lost a bunch of prominent teeth due to gum disease at 55 would
> ... you chalk it up to "aging" and walk around flashing a backwoods
> ... Appalachian grin for the rest of your life?
>
> You still haven't found a better example than *teeth*??
>
> Teeth are vital. Breasts are not.
Anyone can live without a few fucking teeth. You can lose an incisor
and a molar and chew on anything.
doomella
<pikrodafni@death_to_spammers_noos.fr.invalid> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:14:33 -0700 (PDT), in alt.gossip.celebrities, doomella> ... On Aug 23, 12:55 pm, Magda ... <pikrodafni@death_to_spammers_noos.fr.invalid> wrote:
>
> ... > On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:04:52 -0700 (PDT), in alt.gossip.celebrities,doomella
> ... > <Doomell...@gmail.com> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
> ... >
> ... > ... If you lost a bunch of prominent teeth due to gum disease at 55 would
> ... > ... you chalk it up to "aging" and walk around flashing a backwoods
> ... > ... Appalachian grin for the rest of your life?
> ... >
> ... > You still haven't found a better example than *teeth*??
> ... >
> ... > Teeth are vital. Breasts are not.
> ...
> ... Anyone can live without a few fucking teeth. You can lose an incisor
> ... and a molar and chew on anything.
>
> But without breast tissue we are a few seconds from certain death, right?
>
> Get a better frelling example! You have brains, woman, *use them*!!!
>
Use yours. You're not getting it. Nobody ever said you can't survive
without breasts or teeth.
The point was, you can certainly survive without your two front teeth
but chances are you'd replace them if they got knocked out. Or would
you go around with a huge cretinous gap in your front teeth for the
rest of your life?
William December Starr
"P.K." <geo...@vcnet.com> said:
> What's a guy supposed to hang on to and suck ?????????
The other guy's penis?
-- wds