David Carradine found hanging by his neck and genitals
Anthony Allende
Thu, Jun 04 2009 17:27 CET byGabriel Hershman 831 Views
Film star David Carradine, star of cult TV series Kung Fu and later Quentin
Tarantino's Kill Bill series, died today in Thailand.
Thai police told the BBC the 72-year-old was found by a hotel maid sitting
in a wardrobe with a rope around his neck and genitals on Thursday morning.
The local Bangkok newspaper, The Nation, cited unidentified police sources
as saying Carradine was believed to have committed suicide and had hanged
himself with a curtain cord in his suite at the Park Nai Lert Hotel.
The US star was in Thailand filming his latest film Stretch, according to
his personal manager Chuck Binder. Binder described the news as "shocking
and sad", adding: "He was full of life, always wanting to work... a great
person."
Carradine was best known for his role as Kwai Chang Caine in the 1970s TV
series Kung Fu, which spawned sequels in the 1980s and 1990s. The series
became cult viewing. Each episode saw the slow to anger Carradine arrive in
a new town only to be - reluctantly - goaded into violence by ignorant and
frequently racist hillbillies.
Carradine was also known for his roles in Martin Scorcese's Boxcar Bertha
(1972) and as Bill in Quentin Tarantino''s Kill Bill (Vols. 1 & 2 (2003,
2004, respectively).
More recently, he portrayed Tempus, a powerful demon with the ability to
manipulate time, on the hit television series Charmed.
On December 26, 2004, he married his wife Annie, at the seaside Malibu home
of his friend Michael Madsen.
Kris Baker
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> Kill Bill star David Carradine dies at 72
> Thu, Jun 04 2009 17:27 CET byGabriel Hershman 831 Views
> Film star David Carradine, star of cult TV series Kung Fu and later
> Quentin Tarantino's Kill Bill series, died today in Thailand.
>
> Thai police told the BBC the 72-year-old was found by a hotel maid sitting
> in a wardrobe with a rope around his neck and genitals on Thursday
> morning.
The BBC (bbc.co.uk) has a bit different version on their own website:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8083479.stm
Kung Fu star Carradine found dead
David Carradine believed he delivered "some of my best work" in Kill Bill
Kill Bill and Kung Fu star David Carradine has been found dead in a Bangkok
hotel room on Thursday.
Thai police told the BBC the 72-year-old was found naked by a hotel maid in
a wardrobe with a cord around his neck and other parts of his body.
The US star was in Thailand filming his latest film, Stretch, according to
his personal manager Chuck Binder.
Mr Binder said the news was "shocking", adding: "He was full of life, always
wanting to work... a great person."
A US embassy official confirmed the actor's death, but added that the cause
of death had not yet been established.
(snip)
sheesh
>Kill Bill star David Carradine dies at 72
>Thu, Jun 04 2009 17:27 CET byGabriel Hershman 831 Views
>Film star David Carradine, star of cult TV series Kung Fu and later Quentin
>Tarantino's Kill Bill series, died today in Thailand.
>
>Thai police told the BBC the 72-year-old was found by a hotel maid sitting
>in a wardrobe with a rope around his neck and genitals on Thursday morning.
>
>The local Bangkok newspaper, The Nation, cited unidentified police sources
>as saying Carradine was believed to have committed suicide and had hanged
>himself with a curtain cord in his suite at the Park Nai Lert Hotel.
I always wonder why old geezers commit suicide. They're already near
the finish line. Couldn't they hang on for just a little while longer?
-a-
"sheesh" <s...@eeee.sh> wrote in message
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I'm not entirely sure the implication is suicide as much as an auto-erotic
or asphyxiation scenario gone wrong....
I'm sorry about the outcome, but will be curious, if this proves to be
accurate, how the tv news handles this aspect off the story. (odds on:
ignore)
Kalki02
Wonder if Grasshopper made it to Nirvana. (Inside joke for old Kung
Fu fans).
Kalki
Michael Black
> I always wonder why old geezers commit suicide. They're already near
> the finish line. Couldn't they hang on for just a little while longer?
>
Well since they are older, there is less they lose by killing themselves.
There also may be issues of running out of money, no friends remaining
since they've already died, disability that prevents them from doing
things, illness of some kind. Maybe a general tiredness. It might
be something as simple as being referred to as "old geezers".
72 isn't particularly old anymore.
Michael
suzee
No it isn't. Both my parents lived to 91, not unusual in their families.
My mom's older brother (96) and 2 younger sisters (now about 88 and 90)
are still alive.
Big J
news:h090q8$ap4$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
I thought that, too. (auto-erotic asphyxiation)
Big J
-----
Melani...@hotmail.com
Sincemost of the the people who post here are hardly more than
teenies,
35 is considered pension age.
Poor David Carradine! This makes one want to stick to the plain old
"missionary" position.
Melanie
Her Majesty
> Kill Bill star David Carradine dies at 72
> Thu, Jun 04 2009 17:27 CET byGabriel Hershman 831 Views
> Film star David Carradine, star of cult TV series Kung Fu and later Quentin
> Tarantino's Kill Bill series, died today in Thailand.
>
> Thai police told the BBC the 72-year-old was found by a hotel maid sitting
> in a wardrobe with a rope around his neck and genitals on Thursday morning.
Is this a case of accidental death via autoerotic asphyxiation?
Her Majesty
> I'm not entirely sure the implication is suicide as much as an auto-erotic
> or asphyxiation scenario gone wrong....
Yes. Like Michael Hutchence.
Her Majesty
> I thought that, too. (auto-erotic asphyxiation)
Seems pretty apparent.
suzee
Or even some in their 20s would consider 50+ 'elderly'.
Apairateef
I remember thinking at 17 that 30 was old lol
S
Anthony Allende
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>
>> I thought that, too. (auto-erotic asphyxiation)
>
> Seems pretty apparent.
Never heard of the hanging your own member. Geez that's extreme.
Kris Baker
news:h095bp$fv0$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
Where is "here"? rec.sport.pro-wrestling? And why is r.s.p-w
even on the crosspost list?
I don't know *anyone* on Usenet who admits to being under 40.
Usenet is the domain of us who've been on the 'net for years,
not the twitter flitters.
Kris
Hunter
says...
One, 72 isn't that old anymore and from what I have seen he was VERY
spry, more like 52 than 72.
Two, I am not ready to believe these first reports yet of suicide
given they found him in a wardrobe/closet with a rope around his neck
(but that doesn't necessarily mean hung) and if first reports are
true around his privates. It could had been a matter of kinky sex
gone wrong-or murder.
Believe me, I am not holding it against him if it was a sex game that
went afoul, it is his private life, I am just saying it is a
possibility. I don't think many people commit suicide with their
genitals in a compromising position. They usually make sure they go
with some dignity no matter how depressed they are, even if it they
chose to jump out in front of a train.
Again, there is also the possibility of murder.
I recommend waiting for further reports.
--
----->Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
Twitchell
Central Park in the early morning hours with some kind of string/rope
contraption around his 'member'. Maybe, as a CNN courtesy, he could shed some
light on the process.
Everytime I see him on CNN, I have this image of him explaining to the police in
his British twang, that the last thing on his mind was sex with another male.
twitch
2nz
>
> I'm sorry about the outcome, but will be curious, if this proves to be
> accurate, how the tv news handles this aspect off the story. (odds on:
> ignore)
A local TV news report said, "Details on his death are *sketchy*".
Twitchell
>
>"suzee" <su...@imbris.com> wrote in message
>news:h095bp$fv0$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Melani...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> On 4 Jun., 19:51, suzee <su...@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>> Michael Black wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, sheesh wrote:
>>>>>> I always wonder why old geezers commit suicide. They're already near
>>>>>> the finish line. Couldn't they hang on for just a little while
>>>>>> longer?
>>>>> Well since they are older, there is less they lose by killing
>>>>> themselves.
>>>>> There also may be issues of running out of money, no friends remaining
>>>>> since they've already died, disability that prevents them from doing
>>>>> things, illness of some kind. Maybe a general tiredness. It might
>>>>> be something as simple as being referred to as "old geezers".
>>>>> 72 isn't particularly old anymore.
>>>> No it isn't. Both my parents lived to 91, not unusual in their families.
>>>> My mom's older brother (96) and 2 younger sisters (now about 88 and 90)
>>>> are still alive.
>>>
>>> Sincemost of the the people who post here are hardly more than
>>> teenies, 35 is considered pension age.
>>
>> Or even some in their 20s would consider 50+ 'elderly'.
>
>
>Where is "here"? rec.sport.pro-wrestling? And why is r.s.p-w
>even on the crosspost list?
>
alt.obituaries, and rec.sport.pro-wrestling to the thread.
Go figure. Maybe 'sheesh' could enlighten us.
twitch
Kris Baker
news:h099j...@drn.newsguy.com...
Sounds like a google-groups troll who wants it to show
up in our posting history. Maybe we should have sent
replies over to kooks?
Kris
removed
,rec.arts.tv,
alt.suicide.holiday,
alt.obituaries,
rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Big J
news:h0991...@drn.newsguy.com:
Yep, the old "sex toy in my boot/string around my willie/meth in my
pocket" excuse...
http://tinyurl.com/5qsfsq
"CNN personality Richard Quest was busted in Central Park early yesterday
with some drugs in his pocket, a rope around his neck that was tied to
his genitals, and a sex toy in his boot, law-enforcement sources said."
Big J
-----
chrysler5thavenue
of the media's handling of the story:
http://chrysler5thavenue.blogspot.com/2009/06/david-carradine-kills-himself-jerking.html
Kris Baker
news:d9fe1e84-f3a8-44ac...@s16g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> The media isn't exactly telling the whole truth. Here's an analysis
> of the media's handling of the story:
Spammer. If 50,000 people click on your affiliate-scam laden
blog, you'll get a dime.
Why bother nym-shifting, "sheesh", when you use the
same trolling crossposting?
gryphon801
wrote:
> The media isn't exactly telling the whole truth. Here's an analysis
Are we sure it was suicide? Could he have been murdered as part of a
wierd plot of some kind? Who benefits by his death? By the way, he
was younger than I am, so I can't see age as the cause of or
contributing to his death.
Hunter
Twitchel...@newsguy.com says...
I'm not at all anti-crossposting. I think some people go overboard
the other way removing *all* crosspost even if they are very relevant
to the subject. That said, in this case all the crosspost except
rec.sport.pro-wrestling is relevant. I don't know why so many people
feel the need to add rec.sport.pro-wrestling even if it has exactly
no relevance to the subject matter-unless someone is ready to tell me
Carradine was a wrestler in high school or something.
Kris Baker
news:MPG.2491f76a...@news.optonline.net...
I'm anti-crossposting, especially when it shifts mid-thread.
Adding more groups in, is offensive and ridiculous.
Kris
removed....all
CliffB
> In article <kpVVl.31102$Ws1.11...@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>, Anthony Allende says...
>
> >"Her Majesty" <nicholecho...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:da0f67ca-4c67-4b66...@w40g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>> I thought that, too. (auto-erotic asphyxiation)
>
> >> Seems pretty apparent.
>
> >Never heard of the hanging your own member. Geez that's extreme.
>
> Richard Quest, dingbat reporter for CNN, was caught by New Yorks finest in
> Central Park in the early morning hours with some kind of string/rope
> contraption around his 'member'. Maybe, as a CNN courtesy, he could shed some
> light on the process.
>
> Everytime I see him on CNN, I have this image of him explaining to the police in
> his British twang, that the last thing on his mind was sex with another male.
>
> twitch
Yes, I see that CNN has resuscitated his career, having him on to rave
endlessly about the Queen and Michelle Obama pawing each other.
Anderson Cooper probably insisted on getting him back on air and
threatened a hissy fit if they didn't bring back his dementedly
perverse brother-in-bloomers Quest. "Teabag", anyone?
SoCally
Twitchell
After that comical interlude, I never took the guy seriously as a reporter.
twitch
Mac Breck
> On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, sheesh wrote:
>
>> I always wonder why old geezers commit suicide. They're already near
>> the finish line. Couldn't they hang on for just a little while
>> longer?
>>
> Well since they are older, there is less they lose by killing
> themselves.
>
> There also may be issues of running out of money, no friends remaining
> since they've already died, disability that prevents them from doing
> things, illness of some kind. Maybe a general tiredness.
Maybe they're fed up with all the bullshit of the world, and can't stand
to look at for one second longer. Some people reach that point more
quickly than others.
--
Mac Breck (KoshN)
-------------------------------
"Keen Eddie" (2004)
Fiona: Get out.
Eddie: Out of the kitchen?
Fiona: Out of the kitchen, out of the flat, out of London, out of the
world. It's full. Get out. Eddie: I can't get out of the world. I
didn't pull the kind of math grades you need to qualify for the space
program.
Mac Breck
> "Anthony Allende" <all...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Kill Bill star David Carradine dies at 72
>> Thu, Jun 04 2009 17:27 CET byGabriel Hershman 831 Views
>> Film star David Carradine, star of cult TV series Kung Fu and later
>> Quentin Tarantino's Kill Bill series, died today in Thailand.
>>
>> Thai police told the BBC the 72-year-old was found by a hotel maid
>> sitting in a wardrobe with a rope around his neck and genitals on
>> Thursday morning.
>>
>> The local Bangkok newspaper, The Nation, cited unidentified police
>> sources as saying Carradine was believed to have committed suicide
>> and had hanged himself with a curtain cord in his suite at the Park
>> Nai Lert Hotel.
>
> the finish line. Couldn't they hang on for just a little while
> longer?
Maybe you'll be in their shoes one day, and will know.
Mac Breck
I don't know anything about him, and only ever saw him in Kung Fu and
Circle of Iron, but murder would seem more likely. Maybe somebody
wanted him dead and wanted to tarnish the public's memory of him?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001016/
Good grief, look how busy he was! 14 projects in 2009 alone. He
certainly wasn't hurting for work.
> Believe me, I am not holding it against him if it was a sex game that
> went afoul, it is his private life, I am just saying it is a
> possibility. I don't think many people commit suicide with their
> genitals in a compromising position. They usually make sure they go
> with some dignity
Agreed. [rhetorical]Who would want to be remembered with a tag line
"David Carradine found hanging by his neck and genitals." ?
[/rhetorical]
From his father's IMDb Bio. "Never do anything you wouldn't want to be
caught dead doing."
> no matter how depressed they are, even if it they
> chose to jump out in front of a train.
>
> Again, there is also the possibility of murder.
That seems more likely.
> I recommend waiting for further reports.
Agreed.
Lord Gow333, Dirk Benedict's newest fan!
"Kris Baker" <paralle...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "suzee" <su...@imbris.com> wrote in message
> news:h095bp$fv0$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Melani...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> On 4 Jun., 19:51, suzee <su...@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>> Michael Black wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, sheesh wrote:
>>>>>> I always wonder why old geezers commit suicide. They're already near
>>>>>> the finish line. Couldn't they hang on for just a little while
>>>>>> longer?
>>>>> Well since they are older, there is less they lose by killing
>>>>> themselves.
>>>>> There also may be issues of running out of money, no friends remaining
>>>>> since they've already died, disability that prevents them from doing
>>>>> things, illness of some kind. Maybe a general tiredness. It might
>>>>> be something as simple as being referred to as "old geezers".
>>>>> 72 isn't particularly old anymore.
>>>> No it isn't. Both my parents lived to 91, not unusual in their
>>>> families.
>>>> My mom's older brother (96) and 2 younger sisters (now about 88 and 90)
>>>> are still alive.
>>>
>>> Sincemost of the the people who post here are hardly more than
>>> teenies, 35 is considered pension age.
>>
>> Or even some in their 20s would consider 50+ 'elderly'.
>
>
> Where is "here"? rec.sport.pro-wrestling?
Nope. We're old farts too. We only act like juvenile delinquents.
>And why is r.s.p-w
> even on the crosspost list?
RSPW is EVERYWHERE!!!
> I don't know *anyone* on Usenet who admits to being under 40.
>
> Usenet is the domain of us who've been on the 'net for years,
> not the twitter flitters.
It has a nice slow pace.
Damn young texting hooligans anyway...
LG (41)
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This from a guy named Hunter...
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Poor curious, I still miss him
Anthony Allende
"Mac Breck" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Del
"Apairateef" <arf...@flipflop.com> wrote > I remember thinking at 17
that 30 was old lol
>
> S
You weren't alone.
Circa 1968. Dr. Timothy Leary, or perhaps it was the Students for a
Democratic Society (SDS)
who said "trust no one over thirty." Some of us remember those days.
It was on target-----THEN. I've been moving that target for almost
three decades now.
30 was INDEED OLD in Logan's society (see "Logan's Run"). That's what
made Logan run.
Del
Mac Breck
Yes, maybe, sans proof of what happened, I prefer not to think the worst
of the guy.
cuh...@webtv.net
cuhulin
Kris Baker
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> Hunter wrote:
>>
>
> That seems more likely.
Two words: bull. shit.
Kris
martin.s...@gmail.com
> On Jun 4, 11:46 am, martin.secrest...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 4, 10:01 am, "Anthony Allende" <alle...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > > Kill Bill star David Carradine dies at 72
> > > Thu, Jun 04 2009 17:27 CET byGabriel Hershman 831 Views
> > > Film star David Carradine, star of cult TV series Kung Fu and later Quentin
> > > Tarantino's Kill Bill series, died today in Thailand.
>
> > > Thai police told the BBC the 72-year-old was found by a hotel maid sitting
> > > in a wardrobe with a rope around his neck and genitals on Thursday morning.
>
> > > The local Bangkok newspaper, The Nation, cited unidentified police sources
> > > as saying Carradine was believed to have committed suicide and had hanged
> > > himself with a curtain cord in his suite at the Park Nai Lert Hotel.
>
> > > his personal manager Chuck Binder. Binder described the news as "shocking
> > > and sad", adding: "He was full of life, always wanting to work... a great
> > > person."
>
> > > Carradine was best known for his role as Kwai Chang Caine in the 1970s TV
> > > series Kung Fu, which spawned sequels in the 1980s and 1990s. The series
> > > became cult viewing. Each episode saw the slow to anger Carradine arrive in
> > > a new town only to be - reluctantly - goaded into violence by ignorant and
> > > frequently racist hillbillies.
>
> > > Carradine was also known for his roles in Martin Scorcese's Boxcar Bertha
> > > (1972) and as Bill in Quentin Tarantino''s Kill Bill (Vols. 1 & 2 (2003,
> > > 2004, respectively).
>
> > > More recently, he portrayed Tempus, a powerful demon with the ability to
> > > manipulate time, on the hit television series Charmed.
>
> > > On December 26, 2004, he married his wife Annie, at the seaside Malibu home
> > > of his friend Michael Madsen.
>
> > He should have stuck to beating his meat.
>
> > Martin- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Fine ending for an old multiculturalist liberal. (Willy Nelson
> recently stated in public that "my body has outlived
> my dick" but I figure he can still use his well-exercised tongue.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Martin
wis...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Domestic media is mum so far on sex angle.
ted
Bluuuue Rajah
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> "Her Majesty" <nichol...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:da0f67ca-4c67-4b66...@w40g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> I thought that, too. (auto-erotic asphyxiation)
>>
>> Seems pretty apparent.
>
> Never heard of the hanging your own member. Geez that's extreme.
Nobody jerks off with a rope on their prong.
Michael Black
Timothy Leary was 48 in '68, so not only is it unlikely he said it,
he didn't say it.
I thought it was Jerry Rubin who said it, but apparently it was
Jack Weinberger who was involved in the Free Speech Movement at
Berkeley in the early sixties.
"Logan's Run" had the expiry age as 21. When the book was
turned into the movie, they upped it to 30.
The opposite of that was "Wild in the Streets", where the voting
age was lowered, even below the 18 that there was campaigning for
at the time, and so the youngest president gets elected as a result
of the youth vote.
Michael
Bluuuue Rajah
news:FPYVl.31203$yr3....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com:
> "Apairateef" <arf...@flipflop.com> wrote > I remember thinking at 17
> that 30 was old lol
>
> You weren't alone.
>
> Circa 1968. Dr. Timothy Leary, or perhaps it was the Students for a
> Democratic Society (SDS)
> who said "trust no one over thirty." Some of us remember those days.
> It was on target-----THEN. I've been moving that target for almost
> three decades now.
>
> 30 was INDEED OLD in Logan's society (see "Logan's Run"). That's what
> made Logan run.
I enjoy getting stares from kids, as I drive down the street bopping to
loud rock and roll.
Bluuuue Rajah
news:MPG.2491f1256...@news.optonline.net:
> In article <no0g25h6jbiloh5ot...@4ax.com>, s...@eeee.sh
> says...
>> "Anthony Allende" <all...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Kill Bill star David Carradine dies at 72
>> >Thu, Jun 04 2009 17:27 CET byGabriel Hershman 831 Views
>> >Film star David Carradine, star of cult TV series Kung Fu and later
>> >Quentin Tarantino's Kill Bill series, died today in Thailand.
>> >
>> >Thai police told the BBC the 72-year-old was found by a hotel maid
>> >sitting in a wardrobe with a rope around his neck and genitals on
>> >Thursday morning.
>> >
>> >The local Bangkok newspaper, The Nation, cited unidentified police
>> >sources as saying Carradine was believed to have committed suicide
>> >and had hanged himself with a curtain cord in his suite at the Park
>> >Nai Lert Hotel.
>>
>> I always wonder why old geezers commit suicide. They're already near
>> the finish line. Couldn't they hang on for just a little while
>> longer?
> ---
> One, 72 isn't that old anymore and from what I have seen he was VERY
> spry, more like 52 than 72.
>
> Two, I am not ready to believe these first reports yet of suicide
> given they found him in a wardrobe/closet with a rope around his neck
> (but that doesn't necessarily mean hung) and if first reports are
> true around his privates. It could had been a matter of kinky sex
> gone wrong-or murder.
>
> Believe me, I am not holding it against him if it was a sex game that
> went afoul, it is his private life, I am just saying it is a
> possibility. I don't think many people commit suicide with their
> genitals in a compromising position. They usually make sure they go
> with some dignity no matter how depressed they are, even if it they
> chose to jump out in front of a train.
>
> Again, there is also the possibility of murder.
>
> I recommend waiting for further reports.
Most likely, there is the possibility that someone helping him with his
kinky sex ran out after an accident. Remember how John Belushi died,
after someone else injected him with a heroin coketail?
Mac Breck
One word: shithead.
%
Del
"Michael Black" <et...@ncf.ca> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Del wrote:
>
>> "Apairateef" <arf...@flipflop.com> wrote > I remember thinking at
>> 17
>> that 30 was old lol
>>>
>>> S
>>
>> You weren't alone.
>>
>> Circa 1968. Dr. Timothy Leary, or perhaps it was the Students for a
>> Democratic Society (SDS)
>> who said "trust no one over thirty." Some of us remember those
>> days.
>> It was on target-----THEN. I've been moving that target for almost
>> three decades now.
>>
>> 30 was INDEED OLD in Logan's society (see "Logan's Run"). That's
>> what
>> made Logan run.
>>
> Timothy Leary was 48 in '68, so not only is it unlikely he said it,
> he didn't say it.
When you're on LSD you can say any thing at any time.
Del
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september.org:> > > > > > > > > "sheesh" <s...@eeee.sh> wrote in
message> >news:no0g25h6jbiloh5ot...@4ax.com...> >>
"Anthony Allende" <alle...@socal.rr.com> wrote:> > >>>Kill Bill star
David Carradine dies at 72> >>>Thu, Jun 04 2009 17:27 CET byGabriel
Hershman 831 Views> >>>Film star David Carradine, star of cult TV
series Kung Fu and later> >>>Quentin> >>>Tarantino's Kill Bill series,
died today in Thailand.> > >>>Thai police told the BBC the 72-year-old
was found by a hotel maid> >>>sitting in a wardrobe with a rope around
his neck and genitals on> >>>Thursday morning.> > >>>The local Bangkok
newspaper, The Nation, cited unidentified police> >>>sources as saying
Carradine was believed to have committed suicide> >>>and had hanged
himself with a curtain cord in his suite at the Park> >>>Nai Lert
Hotel.> > >> I always wonder why old geezers commit suicide. They're
already near> >> the finish line. Couldn't they hang on for just a
suicide as much as an> > auto-erotic or asphyxiation scenario gone
wrong....> > > I'm sorry about the outcome, but will be curious, if
this proves to be> > accurate, how the tv news handles this aspect off
the story. (odds> > on: ignore)> > I thought that, too. (auto-erotic
asphyxiation)> > Big J> How embarrassing. It's like if I died using a
electric dildo.
Peace and Justice
Only people from California.
R H Draney
>
>On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Del wrote:
>
>> Circa 1968. Dr. Timothy Leary, or perhaps it was the Students for a
>> Democratic Society (SDS)
>> who said "trust no one over thirty." Some of us remember those days.
>> It was on target-----THEN. I've been moving that target for almost
>> three decades now.
>
>Jack Weinberger who was involved in the Free Speech Movement at
>Berkeley in the early sixties.
I remember a small item in the papers when Weinberger turned thirty himself....
And I hereby lay claim to having originated the following variation on a similar
statement a few years later:
We are the parents our people warned us about.
....r
--
A pessimist sees the glass as half empty.
An optometrist asks whether you see the glass
more full like this?...or like this?
Tim Hattrell
"SoCally" <foa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Do people ever look to see if threads were already started?
>
Judging by the fact that this thread is many times longer than the previous
few, I'd say you look pretty stupid.
Tim Hattrell
"Bluuuue Rajah" <Bluuuuue@Rajah.> wrote in message
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No just metal rings.
SoCally
>
> Judging by the fact that this thread is many times longer than the previous
> few, I'd say you look pretty stupid.
Come again?
Are we competing on thread size? Wow, what a full life you must have.
I was asking because this group constantly has the same exact topics
over and over. People should look to see it a topic was already
started. Guess what? It's not that hard.
Hunter
lor...@yahoo.com says...
>
> "Hunter" <buffh...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.2491f76a...@news.optonline.net...
> > In article <h099j...@drn.newsguy.com>,
> > Twitchel...@newsguy.com says...
> >> >
> >> >"suzee" <su...@imbris.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:h095bp$fv0$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >> >> Melani...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> >>> On 4 Jun., 19:51, suzee <su...@imbris.com> wrote:
> >> >>>> Michael Black wrote:
> >> >>>>>> I always wonder why old geezers commit suicide. They're already
> >> >>>>>> near
> >> >>>>>> the finish line. Couldn't they hang on for just a little while
> >> >>>>>> longer?
> >> >>>>> themselves.
> >> >>>>> There also may be issues of running out of money, no friends
> >> >>>>> remaining
> >> >>>>> since they've already died, disability that prevents them from
> >> >>>>> doing
> >> >>>>> things, illness of some kind. Maybe a general tiredness. It might
> >> >>>>> be something as simple as being referred to as "old geezers".
> >> >>>>> 72 isn't particularly old anymore.
> >> >>>> No it isn't. Both my parents lived to 91, not unusual in their
> >> >>>> families.
> >> >>>> My mom's older brother (96) and 2 younger sisters (now about 88 and
> >> >>>> 90)
> >> >>>> are still alive.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Sincemost of the the people who post here are hardly more than
> >> >>> teenies, 35 is considered pension age.
> >> >>
> >> >> Or even some in their 20s would consider 50+ 'elderly'.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Where is "here"? rec.sport.pro-wrestling? And why is r.s.p-w
> >> >even on the crosspost list?
> >> >
> >> I show that poster named 'sheesh' added rec.arts.tv, alt.suicide.holiday,
> >> alt.obituaries, and rec.sport.pro-wrestling to the thread.
> >>
> >> Go figure. Maybe 'sheesh' could enlighten us.
> >>
> >> twitch
> > I'm not at all anti-crossposting. I think some people go overboard
> > the other way removing *all* crosspost even if they are very relevant
> > to the subject. That said, in this case all the crosspost except
> > rec.sport.pro-wrestling is relevant. I don't know why so many people
> > feel the need to add rec.sport.pro-wrestling even if it has exactly
> > no relevance to the subject matter-unless someone is ready to tell me
> > Carradine was a wrestler in high school or something.
>
> This from a guy named Hunter...
>
> LG
And the relevance of my screen nym to the subject is.....?
--
----->Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
Del
>
>> "Apairateef" <arf...@flipflop.com> wrote > I remember thinking at
>> 17
>> that 30 was old lol
>>>
>>> S
>>
>> You weren't alone.
>>
>> Circa 1968. Dr. Timothy Leary, or perhaps it was the Students for a
>> Democratic Society (SDS)
>> who said "trust no one over thirty." Some of us remember those
>> days.
>> It was on target-----THEN. I've been moving that target for almost
>> three decades now.
>>
>> 30 was INDEED OLD in Logan's society (see "Logan's Run"). That's
>> what
>> made Logan run.
> "Logan's Run" had the expiry age as 21. When the book was
> turned into the movie, they upped it to 30.
21? I could have lived with that-----if they had lowered
the drinking age to 5. 21? Just when a dude thought he could get
a cold beer!
Del
Charlene
> On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:17:59 -0700 (PDT), chrysler5thavenue
>
> <chrysler5thave...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >The media isn't exactly telling the whole truth. Here's an analysis
> >of the media's handling of the story:
> >http://chrysler5thavenue.blogspot.com/2009/06/david-carradine-kills-h...
>
> It's interesting that being depressed enough to commit suicide is
> "family friendly" and freely reported while dying doing what he loved
> is such a horrible secret. (And if that sounds disrespectful or
> flippant, it's not meant to be.)
It's more family-friendly to get your kicks above the waistline,
sunshine.
wd45
Apairateef
Ohhh yeahhh god i loved that film when it first came out....i was so much
younger lol.....i loved the bit where the youngans touched the wrinkles and
asked if they hurt lol
S
�~����u�~�
goldenc...@gmail.com
>
> Usenet is the domain of us who've been on the 'net for years,
> not the twitter flitters.
Twitter. An EXCEPTIONALLY appropriate and descriptive designation.
goldenc...@gmail.com
>
> Ohhh yeahhh god i loved that film when it first came out....i was so much
> younger lol.....i loved the bit where the youngans touched the wrinkles and
> asked if they hurt lol
"Ah, but I was so much older then...I'm younger than that now." -The
Byrds
;^)
martin.s...@gmail.com
> On Jun 4, 11:46 am, martin.secrest...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > Kill Bill star David Carradine dies at 72
> > > Thu, Jun 04 2009 17:27 CET byGabriel Hershman 831 Views
> > > Film star David Carradine, star of cult TV series Kung Fu and later Quentin
> > > Tarantino's Kill Bill series, died today in Thailand.
>
> > > Thai police told the BBC the 72-year-old was found by a hotel maid sitting
> > > in a wardrobe with a rope around his neck and genitals on Thursday morning.
>
> > > The local Bangkok newspaper, The Nation, cited unidentified police sources
> > > as saying Carradine was believed to have committed suicide and had hanged
> > > himself with a curtain cord in his suite at the Park Nai Lert Hotel.
>
> > > his personal manager Chuck Binder. Binder described the news as "shocking
> > > and sad", adding: "He was full of life, always wanting to work... a great
> > > person."
>
> > > Carradine was best known for his role as Kwai Chang Caine in the 1970s TV
> > > series Kung Fu, which spawned sequels in the 1980s and 1990s. The series
> > > became cult viewing. Each episode saw the slow to anger Carradine arrive in
> > > a new town only to be - reluctantly - goaded into violence by ignorant and
> > > frequently racist hillbillies.
>
> > > Carradine was also known for his roles in Martin Scorcese's Boxcar Bertha
> > > (1972) and as Bill in Quentin Tarantino''s Kill Bill (Vols. 1 & 2 (2003,
> > > 2004, respectively).
>
> > > More recently, he portrayed Tempus, a powerful demon with the ability to
> > > manipulate time, on the hit television series Charmed.
>
> > > On December 26, 2004, he married his wife Annie, at the seaside Malibu home
> > > of his friend Michael Madsen.
>
> > He should have stuck to beating his meat.
>
> > Martin- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Fine ending for an old multiculturalist liberal. (Willy Nelson
> recently stated in public that "my body has outlived
>
> - Show quoted text -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoxyphilia
Martin
William Boyd
In my travels in the military I spent a lot of time in Thailand. For
some one to have suffered the death Carradine did is the penalty for
insulting a very prominent Thai woman.
--
BILL P.
&
DOG
-a-
That's the kind of thinking that got Carradine into trouble in the first
place. [or per Michael Scott: that's what she said]
freeisbest
-snip-
> In my travels in the military I spent a lot of time in Thailand.
For
> some one to have suffered the death Carradine did is the penalty
> for insulting a very prominent Thai woman.
**********************
That's an interesting if horrifying explanation. What a sad
ending for the poor soul.
Herbert Cannon
"freeisbest" <demeter...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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**********************
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENyGj_NQKkU
Bluuuue Rajah
Bluuuue Rajah
news:Px9Wl.3646$IP7....@newsfe23.iad:
>
> "freeisbest" <demeter...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:72bb0065-5edf-416d-95ec-e58ce5a28e60
@e24g2000vbe.googlegroups.com.
> .. On Jun 5, 9:53 am, William Boyd <williamb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> -snip-
> > In my travels in the military I spent a lot of time in Thailand.
> For
>> some one to have suffered the death Carradine did is the penalty
> > for insulting a very prominent Thai woman.
>
> **********************
>
> That's an interesting if horrifying explanation. What a sad
> ending for the poor soul.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENyGj_NQKkU
There would be signs of a struggle.
Michael Black
The only problem is, that's a Bob Dylan song.
Michael
Herbert Cannon
"Bluuuue Rajah" <Bluuuuue@Rajah.> wrote in message
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkUFv0xbdrw&feature=related
Metalhead Jay
honestly think that foul play may have been involved here. Many people
have said that he wasn't suicidal or depressed in the least. That he
was quite happy and very well off financially, not to mention having
many movie projects lined up. I think that if he was going to commit
suicide, he would have at least left a note or letter explaining why.
It could have been a sex act gone bad or perhaps he had a heart attack
in the process. I don't know but something seems extremely fishy here.
MC
<9780fdce-5899-4ab9...@j20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
Metalhead Jay <jason...@netzero.net> wrote:
Look up autoerotic asphyxiation.
Easy come, easy go.
--
"Here I am paying big money to you writers and what for?
All you do is change the words."
- Samuel Goldwyn
Melani...@hotmail.com
> suzee wrote:
> > Melanie_Sa...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> On 4 Jun., 19:51, suzee <su...@imbris.com> wrote:
> >>> Michael Black wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, sheesh wrote:
> >>>>> I always wonder why old geezers commit suicide. They're already
> >>>>> near the finish line. Couldn't they hang on for just a little
> >>>>> while longer?
> >>>> Well since they are older, there is less they lose by killing
> >>>> themselves. There also may be issues of running out of money, no
> >>>> friends remaining since they've already died, disability that
> >>>> prevents them from doing things, illness of some kind. Maybe a
> >>>> general tiredness. It might be something as simple as being referred
> >>>> to as "old geezers".
> >>>> 72 isn't particularly old anymore.
> >>> No it isn't. Both my parents lived to 91, not unusual in their
> >>> families. My mom's older brother (96) and 2 younger sisters (now
> >>> about 88 and 90) are still alive.
>
> >> Sincemost of the the people who post here are hardly more than
> >> teenies, 35 is considered pension age.
>
> > Or even some in their 20s would consider 50+ 'elderly'.
>
>
Well, for what it's worth, when I was 14 I had a huge crush on a guy
who
was 28, (we kissed a lot, it was thrilling) and when I was 15, I had a
huge crush on a 32-year old Hungarian who looked like Herb Alpert,
and a 30 year-old chorus singer at the Opera and an 18 year-old
guy with frizzy hair (not at the same time, of course.)
Then up to five years ago I enlarged my horizons by flirting
with 21 year-olds (okay, so they were Italians, they flirt with
EVERYONE).
In the past five years I've had no flirts because I'm too busy
working.
:-(
So anyway I never really understood this "age thing".
Neither does my mother. She's 80, looks like 65 and is hugely
active all over the country as a tour guide - walking up and
down the mountains and everything!
How cool is that!
Have you checked out David Carradine's website? I didn't know
he was into art work and had written some books. One just
remembers that Kung Fu series and him as the bad guy in
"North and South" with Parick Swayze and Leslie Ann Down.
Melanie
thai tie
>In my travels in the military I spent a lot of time in Thailand. For
>some one to have suffered the death Carradine did is the penalty for
>insulting a very prominent Thai woman.
Or maybe he just had an unfortunate encounter with a katooey who's into
S&M/B&D...
Flas...@live.com
> > > > his personal manager Chuck Binder. Binder described the news as "shocking
> > > > and sad", adding: "He was full of life, always wanting to work... a great
> > > > person."
>
> > > > ...cult viewing. Each episode saw the slow to anger Carradine arrive in
> > > > a new town only to be - reluctantly - goaded into violence by ignorant and
> > > > frequently racist hillbillies.
>
> > > He should have stuck to beating his meat.
>
> > Fine ending for an old multiculturalist liberal. (Willy Nelson
> > recently stated in public that "my body has outlived
> > my dick" -- but I figure ...
>
> Martin
They don't call it Bangkok for nothing. It's where not everyone has
much money to speak of -- coupled with an Eastern mannerism of
relatively relaxed latitude regarding sexual dispensation -- which is
aways from Plato, Arthurian, and Constantine to Augustinian baggage.
Regardless, I like David. The man first directly behind the fantasy
mask of another from urban, Eastern beds of a rough-&-tumble legend,
not far away, where lies the home of Hong Kong's prodigal son, Bruce
Lee, once prominently tied to David's fate. Bruce, no doubt, would be
first to admit the competition is fiercest at the Tiger's Rim.
Tough enough place for a young man to keep his wits ... a man, an
actor's son from within means and of birth ceded to an upstanding
setting, now 72 years and out wandering about ... Kung Fu paradigm
withstanding, or should I say outstanding, as if to return for a final
match to meet his karmic debt.
The make-up off, gestures less purposeful, naught for a tawdry stage,
and little of David's legacy of vested talent to broaden a Western
appreciation of mystical aspects of the Eastern with both the
fantastical and symbolic.
Appears he would have remained a man true to a man of his own imagine
to the end, whatever sundry attachments to his bodily parts impugn --
a ludicrous suggestion, as I'd rather, than otherwise conceive import
over these details, regarding how he chose privately to live out his
life. His wives and marriages. His surviving daughters.
Difficulties, then, more of an unfortunate placement, situationally so
distanced for a turn less barbaric, than of culpability and magnitude
tragically perceived for desecration. Getting the truth out of a man
getting along and older -- of questionable motive, if not entirely out
of his element in a promiscuous setting -- being a gist more than of
simple apparency to ally in immediacy to ill-suited conjectures.
-a-
<Flas...@live.com> wrote in message
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I hope your prose is performance art and not deliberate. Judging from your
(deleted) cross-posting, I suspect the former. If it's the latter, though,
the death of print has certainly found a champion in you.
Billzz
"Bluuuue Rajah" <Bluuuuue@Rajah.> wrote in message
Here's one...
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0605092carradine1.html
Bluuuue Rajah
news:e9000$4a295e07$9440b19b$10...@STARBAND.NET:
A link about insulting a prominent Thai woman, please.
Bluuuue Rajah
I charge $50 to click that link.
Hunter
a6d1bf...@h2g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>, Melani...@hotmail.com
says...
OH YEAH!!!! I totally forgot about that. He was that vicious Simon
Legree like slave master who pronounced "wife" "wiff" who he beat as
much as his slaves. He was great.
Vandelack
> "Anthony Allende" <alle...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> >Kill Bill star David Carradine dies at 72
> >Thu, Jun 04 2009 17:27 CET byGabriel Hershman 831 Views
> >Film star David Carradine, star of cult TV series Kung Fu and later Quentin
> >Tarantino's Kill Bill series, died today in Thailand.
>
> >Thai police told the BBC the 72-year-old was found by a hotel maid sitting
> >in a wardrobe with a rope around his neck and genitals on Thursday morning.
>
Get Thai'd! You're talking to a tourist
Whose every move's among the purest
I get my kicks above the waistline, sunshine
One night in Bangkok and the world's your oyster
The bars are temples but the pearls ain't free
You'll find a god in every golden cloister
A little flesh, a little history
I can feel an angel sliding up to me
One night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble
Not much between despair and ecstasy
One night in Bangkok and the tough guys tumble
Can't be too careful with your company
I can feel the devil walking next to me
Bluuuue Rajah
news:416c80ef-e29b-4566...@z5g2000vba.googlegroups.com:
> On Jun 4, 11:29�am, sheesh <s...@eeee.sh> wrote:
>> "Anthony Allende" <alle...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>> >Kill Bill star David Carradine dies at 72
>> >Thu, Jun 04 2009 17:27 CET byGabriel Hershman 831 Views
>> >Film star David Carradine, star of cult TV series Kung Fu and later
>> >Quen
> tin
>> >Tarantino's Kill Bill series, died today in Thailand.
>>
>> >Thai police told the BBC the 72-year-old was found by a hotel maid
>> >sitti
> ng
>> >in a wardrobe with a rope around his neck and genitals on Thursday
>> >morni
> ng.
>>
>
> Get Thai'd! You're talking to a tourist
> Whose every move's among the purest
> I get my kicks above the waistline, sunshine
'Til now, I thought that was "Sasha."
> One night in Bangkok and the world's your oyster
> The bars are temples but the pearls ain't free
> You'll find a god in every golden cloister
> A little flesh, a little history
> I can feel an angel sliding up to me
>
> One night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble
> Not much between despair and ecstasy
> One night in Bangkok and the tough guys tumble
> Can't be too careful with your company
> I can feel the devil walking next to me
You'd better go back to your bars, your temples, your massage parlors.
Slim
Like having her hubby find out she was fucking him?
--
"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in
England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after
all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it
is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a
democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist
dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to
the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL
THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of
patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY
COUNTRY."
�
--Goering at the Nuremberg Trials
Slim
Nope.
Slim
I guess Raj is confused.
In his country, its the women who are killed. ;-)
M.Balarama
"Slim" <sl...@pickins.com> wrote in message
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weird quoting a drug addict guy--but I have been in these third world
countries-and you better watch your ass-especially if you have $$$$
>
Bluuuue Rajah
news:2009060519521143658-slim@pickinscom:
> On 2009-06-05 10:35:38 -0400, Bluuuue Rajah <Bluuuuue@Rajah.> said:
>
>> "Herbert Cannon" <hcan...@cox.net> wrote in
>> news:Px9Wl.3646$IP7....@newsfe23.iad:
>>>
>>> "freeisbest" <demeter...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:72bb0065-5edf-416d-95ec-e58ce5a28e60
>> @e24g2000vbe.googlegroups.com.
>>> .. On Jun 5, 9:53 am, William Boyd <williamb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> -snip-
>>>> In my travels in the military I spent a lot of time in Thailand.
>>> For
>>>> some one to have suffered the death Carradine did is the penalty
>>>> for insulting a very prominent Thai woman.
>>>
>>> **********************
>>>
>>> That's an interesting if horrifying explanation. What a sad
>>> ending for the poor soul.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENyGj_NQKkU
>>
>> There would be signs of a struggle.
>
> Nope.
Yup.
Bluuuue Rajah
bil...@starband.net
> BILL P.
> &
> DOG
My Starband account seems to not be working so I am using Google which
is very time-consuming and insists on multiple log-ins and
verifications by re-typing illegible letteres, but anyway...
The stuff at The Smoking Gun indicates that his life style (and he was
married five time) would indicate depravity of the nature to get a
divorce and also lead one to Bangkok, of where I have not been, and
would have a lot of explanation to my wife, being as how I was in
Vietnam, Korea, and Japan, and I know (second-hand, of course) what
goes on in Bangkok. So I take Bill P's assessment as probably being
correct. I do not think that anyone involved is posting anything to
USENet. I personally think it was a ritual assassination. Drugged
first, then arranged. But of course I do not actually *know*
anything.