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Oct 6, 2008, 9:16:07 AM10/6/08
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Palin Won't Lay Down for Tina Fey
Posted Oct 6th 2008 6:17AM by TMZ Staff

Think Sarah Palin wants a chance to get back at Tina Fey for her
amazing "SNL" takedowns? You betcha.

Palin is more than winking at the possibility of appearing on
"Saturday Night LIve" to skewer the comedienne. The Chicago Sun-Times
hears a "tweak" of Fey's American Express commercials is in the works,
and may appear on a "Weekend Update" prime time special.

Some McCain staffers want Palin to leave well enough alone, joking
about it on the campaign trail – others think a "return punch" is well
warranted.

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Big J

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Oct 6, 2008, 3:17:59 AM10/6/08
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comadrejo <comadr...@mac.com> wrote in news:comadrejoagua-
049EA1.065...@news.giganews.com:

> In article
> <763410ad-3021-4158...@m74g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,

> Governor Palin doesn't have to lay down for Fey's mimicking of her.
> Palin is being eviscerated standing up. Besides, Palin is the main
> writer for Fey's portrayal of Palin. (Using parts of Palin's Couric
> interviews verbatim, mocking her Russia is Alaska next door neighbor
> equals her foreign policy experience, using her debate performance with
> Biden)
>
> I also don't think Governor Palin has much time to do a skit with a
> couple more weeks before the election, and she has to campaign in a
> couple battleground states.

If the campaign let her go do SNL, it shows how much they value her
contribution to actual campaigning.

Big J

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Bluuuue Rajah

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Oct 6, 2008, 2:51:07 PM10/6/08
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comadrejo <comadr...@mac.com> wrote in
news:comadrejoagua-049...@news.giganews.com:

> Governor Palin doesn't have to lay down for Fey's mimicking of her.
> Palin is being eviscerated standing up. Besides, Palin is the main
> writer for Fey's portrayal of Palin. (Using parts of Palin's Couric
> interviews verbatim, mocking her Russia is Alaska next door neighbor
> equals her foreign policy experience, using her debate performance
> with Biden)
>
> I also don't think Governor Palin has much time to do a skit with a
> couple more weeks before the election, and she has to campaign in a
> couple battleground states.

Yeah, but I doubt she'll be doing any more interviews for network
newscasters, and I doubt that McCain has very much new dirt on Obama for
her to attack him with. She should be able to fit it into her schedule.

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Big J

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Oct 6, 2008, 6:29:01 PM10/6/08
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"explorer" <No...@ubidnis.com> wrote in
news:4Mmdnd-liMUOEnfV...@centurytel.net:

> x-no-archive: yes
> "Big J" <bi...@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9B2F4A2168FB...@69.16.185.247...

> This campaign has shown itself to open to any an all PR stunts
> (remember McCain during debate week - non-stop PR stunts all week and
> they all backfired on him) - so I can see them doing it - but not
> until the last week before the election when they are really
> desperate. Doing it now, would only spotlight how spot-on Fey is with
> her portrayal of Palin as a lightweight at best, a complete
> incompetent bozo at worst.

Right now they seem to be using her as the rabid right attack dog. I was
a bit puzzled by her line of attack - O's character. Yeah, I understand
it's the only thing they have left for leverage.

But it has opened the door for O to bring up Keating. And from the looks
of the website http://keatingeconomics.com/ it seems that O's campaign
was waiting and fully loaded.

Certainly this couldn't have been a surprise to McCain. Maybe he was
being mavericky.....which, in this case, means taking riskier and riskier
chances.

Big J

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S. Fu

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Oct 6, 2008, 8:09:49 PM10/6/08
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On 2008-10-06 15:29:01 -0700, Big J <bi...@myrealbox.com> said:

> Certainly this couldn't have been a surprise to McCain. Maybe he was
> being mavericky.....which, in this case, means taking riskier and riskier
> chances.

What else can he do? He's being crushed at every turn. His only
options are to concede or gamble massively. He does have other Hail
Mary options other than a desperate smear attack, but that's the best
of his bleak choices.

A huge slew of poll numbers were published today, and they're just
devastating to McCain. He's down to only a 7% lead on Obama in
Georgia, of all places. He _may_ be getting a rebound in CO and OH,
but there are other fresh polls showing Obama widening his lead in
those states as well. Rasmussen has Obama up by 7 in Florida and now
up by 3 in Missouri, PPP has Obama up by 6 in NC...those are death
knell numbers for McCain. He can't afford to lose any of those states
unless he pulls back PA, which would take a miracle.

The main media outlets are starting to catch on that McCain's death
spiral may hand a solid 60-vote majority to the Dems in the Senate.
Chambliss is in freefall in GA, the second MS seat is a toss up and
even Reep politicos are calling Dole toast in North Carolina. I think
Chambliss, McConnell and Coleman (and maybe Collins and Cornyn) will
pressure McCain to bow to the inevitable if he doesn't get a huge
bounce out of the next debate.

The latest stunner I've read is that recent regression checks on the
polling numbers seem to show that the polls are still significantly
undercounting black voters, especially in the South. Combine that with
the predicted undercount of the youth vote, which is strongly slanted
for Obama (although not so much in the South), and you're looking at a
5%-7% _undercount_ for Obama in the South. Factor that in and Georgia
and Mississippi are actually toss up states where the trend line favors
Obama.

And what about Texas? Could Obama really be within striking distance
of winning Texas? Well if McCain gets desperate to use race-based
attacks, that could drive the Hispanic vote in Texas to Obama, probably
throwing the Senate seat to the Dems as well.

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S. Fu

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Oct 6, 2008, 10:29:06 PM10/6/08
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On 2008-10-06 18:15:31 -0700, "explorer" <No...@ubidnis.com> said:

> I've read several sources that have Obama having secured 260 electoral
> votes. All he needs is to convert one of those toss-ups to his column and
> he's there, since many of the toss up have at least 10 electoral votes and
> you have to think if one turns, chances are another (or few) will as well.
> If he turns a longheld Republican state like VA - which he is close to
> turning, it could well lead to a domino effect.

Virginia is already gone. Realclearpolitics.com, which tilts GOP, is
ranking Virginia below Ohio among the toss ups that McCain might be
able to swing back. McCain would have to pull back half a dozen states
where Obama is up five points and gaining.

It's over:
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_flack/archive/2008/10/05/it-s-over.aspx.
It was over last week, even before the VP debate, but no one in the
media wants to say so yet.

The one possibility for a dramatic turnaround that I can see coming is
that the prospect of a worldwide economic collapse could actually scare
voters back to the GOP. There are some scenarios in which a looming
global economic catastrophe gets so bad that it actually helps McCain.
Today's market numbers are truly scary, and international markets are
continuing to slide overnight. Obama will need to pull in his horns
and focus on appearing presidential and assuring if polling starts to
show incipient panic over the national economy.

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Bluuuue Rajah

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Oct 7, 2008, 9:19:26 AM10/7/08
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S. Fu <ghostf...@fubar.org> wrote in news:2008100617094975249-
ghostfukilla@fubarorg:

> recent regression checks on the
> polling numbers seem to show that the polls are still significantly
> undercounting black voters, especially in the South. Combine that with
> the predicted undercount of the youth vote, which is strongly slanted
> for Obama

I'm glad you mentioned this. It turns out that phone polls can't call
people's cell phones, which are many (if not most) people's primary phones.
Since people with cell phones typically have more money than people
without, this means that polling problem will underco9unt the wealthy.
This may be anough to cancel part of Obama's alleged advantage or the
problems you listed here.

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S. Fu

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Oct 7, 2008, 12:41:27 PM10/7/08
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On 2008-10-07 06:19:26 -0700, Bluuuue Rajah <Bluuuuue@Rajah.> said:

> I'm glad you mentioned this. It turns out that phone polls can't call
> people's cell phones, which are many (if not most) people's primary phones.
> Since people with cell phones typically have more money than people
> without, this means that polling problem will underco9unt the wealthy.
> This may be anough to cancel part of Obama's alleged advantage or the
> problems you listed here.

No, no, the polling pros have already analyzed the cell phone issue and
economic status has nothing to do with it. Sole use of a cell phone
breaks out as a heavy age demographic slant--18-24 year-olds, many of
them first-time voters. Separate polling indicates that that same
demographic tilts, unsurprisingly, heavily for Obama.

Most of the pollsters claim to have adjusted for the "cell phone gap"
in their weighting (if it's a weighted poll). But they may not have
weighted the partisan skew correctly, or its magnitude. You really
won't know until after the election, but because pollsters have to be
methodologically conservative, you can be pretty sure they're
undercounting by a couple of points over and above the weighting
already factored into their polling results.

How does that play out? Take Georgia. Half the population of the
state lives in and around Atlanta, and Atlanta is teeming with "cell
phone voters". If they're undercounted by five points in Atlanta, but
only two points in the rest of the state, that calculates out to a 3.5
point undercount for Obama statewide. With McCain's lead sinking to
6%-8%, uh oh, Georgia is actually in play when you factor this in.

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