Trans Fat: "Hey Rosie & The View, get a clue!"
Zaven
fat" in restaurants in New York. Since they didn't really understand
what they were talking about, below is a link and a clip explaining:
"Trans is created when oils are "partially hydrogenated." Hydrogenation
is what turns liquid oil into Crisco or stick margarines. It also makes
oils more stable (so they can be re-used more times in deep-frying) and
makes pie crusts flakier and french fries crispier.
You could cut trans fat by avoiding the thousands of foods with
"partially hydrogenated oil" in their ingredient lists. But that may not
be practical. Besides, the oil in some foods is only slightly
hydrogenated--which means there's just a little trans. Unfortunately,
there's no simple way to distinguish them from foods whose oil is
heavily hydrogenated--which means it has lots of trans."
http://www.cspinet.org/nah/septrans.html
What is slowly being discovered by many (and known by few for much
longer) is that taking a food and hydrogenating it chemically turns it
into a substance that your body doesn't know how to deal with.
Fats, butter, oils are substances that people have been eating since
time began.
How long has hydrogenation been a big factor in food?
Why are Americans so fat?
Look to hydrogenation in the majority of foods as the answer to that
question. Also for the key to thin/normal people who exercise and look
normal (as opposed to extremely obese people) who have a heart attack or
several by passes. Yet, eating a Mediterranean or Asian diet with oil
is healthy is because they haven't been saturated with "hydrogenated"
oils in their food yet.
charliekilo
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Well then, let's pass a law stating that Americans have to eat Med and Asian
style diets because dammit, we want to live forever! And oh yeah, we need to
ban alcoholic beverages, driving in cars, flying in airplanes, tobacco
products, more than 20 minutes of sun exposure in any given 8 hour period,
eating solid foods (hey, a lot of people die every year from chocking on
food), bicycling at speeds over 15 miles per hour, horse riding (think Chris
Reeve), mountain climbing, parachuting, balloons,... I could go on and on if
the government's goal is to protect us from possible death.
What about trans fats that occur naturally and are in food we eat?
E Varden
> What about trans fats that occur naturally and are in food we eat?-
Trans fats (hydrogenated oils) do not occur naturally.
Pe
hlk
Dairy contains natural trans fats.
charliekilo
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Trans fats do occur naturally and are present in dairy and red meat.
avery
"charliekilo" <miles_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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But only in teensy weensy amounts.
avery
"It's the Principle!" <bran...@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote in message
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> hlk <h...@PANTScv.org> wrote in alt.gossip.celebrities:
It also contains tiny (inconsequential) amounts of naturally occurring
trans-fats.
>
> Marketers LOVE people who don't completely understand what's going on.
> That's how they can plaster "NO TRANS FAT" on the packages and get more
> people to buy them.
Yep - like cotton candy and tubs of margarine that scream "NO CHOLESTEROL"
hlk
<bran...@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote:
> No, it contains saturated fat.
AND natural trans fats. Natural trans fats are found in ruminant
animals (cows, goats, sheep). Though as Doomella said, the amounts
are very small. Interestingly (at least to me), meat and dairy from
grain-fed animals contain much less trans fats than those from
grass-fed. So while we've been pumping up all kinds of processed
foods with the man-made trans fats that are causing such a stir, we've
decreased the naturally occurring trans fats we consume. Not that it
evens out, but some think the natural trans fats might actually be
good for us.
Anyway, I have mixed feelings about the ban. I think people should
have the choice to eat junk if they want to, but I must admit it would
be nice if things like hydrogenated vegetable oils and high fructose
corn syrup were easier to avoid when eating out.
Agent Smith
DYnZ2dnUV...@adelphia.com:
> Rosie and the women of the view were complaining about banning "trans
> fat" in restaurants in New York.
They should ban fat women from TV.
Lily
<<Well then, let's pass a law stating that Americans have to eat Med and
Asian style diets because dammit, we want to live forever! And oh yeah,
we need to ban alcoholic beverages, driving in cars, flying in
airplanes, tobacco products, more than 20 minutes of sun exposure in any
given 8 hour period, eating solid foods (hey, a lot of people die every
year from chocking on food), bicycling at speeds over 15 miles per hour,
horse riding (think Chris Reeve), mountain climbing, parachuting,
balloons,... I could go on and on if the government's goal is to protect
us from possible death.>>
I agree completely that it's getting ridiculous. Don't forget banning
ice cream, full fat meat, whole milk cheese, etc, because they make you
fat and it's dangerous to be fat.
The government's goal is to protect the insurance companies from us, not
us from "bad" foods.
Lily
Lily
<<I have mixed feelings about the ban. I think people should have the
choice to eat junk if they want to, but I must admit it would be nice if
things like hydrogenated vegetable oils and high fructose corn syrup
were easier to avoid when eating out. >>
I'm adamantly opposed to the government dictating what restaurants can
and can't serve. Unless it's fugu or absinthe, the government has no
business regulating what restaurants cook and what you're allowed to
eat.
If you don't eat out more than once or twice a week, the amount of trans
fat or fructose you ingest won't kill you. If you're very concerned
about what you're eating, what the restaurant can do is have the
waitstaff prepared to tell you whether an ingredient you want to avoid
is in the dish you choose.
In fact, a balanced meal at a good restaurant is probably healthier and
more carefully prepared than a lunch in a school cafeteria.
We're adults. Stop protecting us!
Lily
E Varden
Oh fer crissakes, yes. But there are natural "trans-fatty acids" that
are actually good for you (linleic acid, for one) and the artificially
derived hydrogenated oils, which are on their way to killing you.
"Yeah well, TFA exists in nature" is NOT a useful declaration. Under
the rubric of TFAs is a lot of info, the predominantly pertinent info
to this thread is that HYDROGENATED OILS PRODUCING TRANS-FATS are NOT
to be equated with naturally-occuring "trans-fats".
A failure to distinguish.
Perhaps a chemistry-major might point out the difference to us. Both
labelled "trans-fat" - one semi-benign to beneficial, the other an
artery-clogging obesity-producing nightmare.
http://www.tfx.org.uk/page62.html
Pe
(Gawd, I've mellowed!, as you regulars are noticing. Musta misplaced
my curmudgeonly rip-em-a-new-asshole hat...)
Steve
Someone stole it, but you can't go to the police to make a report
because they're looking for you. Sucks to be you, but that's what
happens to white trash poseurs with delusions of grandeur.
Now shut the fuck up and fetch me a beer, bitch.
Regards,
Steve
b
> If you don't eat out more than once or twice a week, the amount of trans
> fat or fructose you ingest won't kill you. If you're very concerned
> about what you're eating, what the restaurant can do is have the
> waitstaff prepared to tell you whether an ingredient you want to avoid
> is in the dish you choose.
>>>>>>>
FYI
in NYC a large percentage of the population eats out 80-100% of their
meals
it's not uncommon to meet someone who *never* uses their stove
and it may not be possible to avoid the ingredients
i'm not saying i'm for or against the ban but i can see how this issue
affects a lot of people