And you would care cause you have some hard on for Jews.
Jewish girls you mean, not Jewish guys, I'm not gay.
But why is it whenever I mentioned Jewish people it seems to
rub people the wrong way. It brings out their worse...I haven't
figured it out
entirely yet..Somehow they get distracted. I don't know any other word
to put
in place of Jewish, but it seems that word, or any word related to
Jewish people makes people nauseous.
When all I'm talking about is a cartoon named Shrek.
Did you know Shrek is Jewish?
How do I ask the question, "Did you know Shrek is Jewish?" without
using the word "Jewish", because I don't want to make people nauseous,
they might
be having their lunch or dinner and I want to be considerate?
The Starmaker
Shrek is an ogre, ya doof.
>Did you know that Shrek is Jewish?
No, Shrek is an ogre.
>The Starmaker wrote:
>> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:29:41 -0400, FDR <fdr@kjdfgkdfkl> wrote:
>>
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> Did you know that Shrek is Jewish?
>>> And you would care cause you have some hard on for Jews.
>>
>> Jewish girls you mean, not Jewish guys, I'm not gay.
>>
>> But why is it whenever I mentioned Jewish people it seems to
>> rub people the wrong way. It brings out their worse...I haven't
>> figured it out
>> entirely yet..Somehow they get distracted. I don't know any other word
>> to put
>> in place of Jewish, but it seems that word, or any word related to
>> Jewish people makes people nauseous.
>>
>> When all I'm talking about is a cartoon named Shrek.
>>
>> Did you know Shrek is Jewish?
>
>Shrek is an ogre, ya doof.
Shrek is Jewish. Shrek is a Jewish word. It means "monster". It's a
Yiddish word... "Shrek" means monster.
Don't throw away your DVDs now...it's just a word.
Ogre is a word too. You seem to not care about that one though.
>On Jul 3, 7:22Â pm, The Starmaker <starma...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> Shrek is Jewish. Shrek is a Jewish word. It means "monster". It's a
>> Yiddish word... "Shrek" means monster.
>
>There are Hebrew words and Yiddish words but no "Jewish" words.
>
>Schreck is the German word for fright, or terror.
>It comes from the Middle High German word schrecken: to frighten, or
>terrify.
>
>OTOH, "dreck" is a Yiddish word that describes the contents of your
>head.
Shrek is a Yiddish word for "monster".
I looked it up in a Yiddish glossary of Yiddish words and it's right
there.
http://www.bubbygram.com/yiddishglossary.htm
It's a Jewish word because mostly Jewish people speak Yiddish.
They should learn how to speak English if they want to "get along".
The Starmaker
and you're a Shnook!
> Shrek is a Yiddish word for "monster".
> I looked it up in a Yiddish glossary of Yiddish words and it's right
> there.
> http://www.bubbygram.com/yiddishglossary.htm
>
> It's a Jewish word because mostly Jewish people speak Yiddish.
> They should learn how to speak English if they want to "get along".
Oh fer god's sake. My friend is English but has a French surname. Does
that mean she's French?
D'uh.
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We must change the way we live,
or the climate will do it for us.
It's not a name of a movie, you're being silly now....what does FDR
stand for?
What?
Yup...that's exactly what many others are thinking when they read your
foolishness.
I don't care what the name of the movie is. He's an ogre who lives in a
forest and interacts with fairytale people. Maybe you have fairytale
people in your world too.
So why make a big deal about it?
Do you honestly think it matters to anyone if Shrek
is Jewish?
Well of course!
Maybe it would be more accurate to say that he's a "Yiddish character". A
lot of the humble people in the movie are, while the royalty in the movie
are more Christian/European. The whole schmear seems based on medeival
Eurpoean, put-upon peasants, with a heavy component of Jews/outsiders who
have to live by their wits.
But I agree, I think the basis of the character, and the style of the
legend, is very Jewish.
You seem to be the only person who cares, you queef. It's not even exactly
a Jewish word. Here:
"Shrek! is a picture book written and illustrated by William Steig, written
in 1990, about a young ogre who finds the ogre of his dreams when he leaves
home to see the world. The name "Shrek" is taken from the German and
Yiddish word "Schreck"/"Shreck", meaning "fear, terror". The Academy
Award-winning film Shrek is loosely based on the book, with the characters
of Shrek and Princess Fiona "evolving" from the book's characters. However,
other completely new aspects were added to the film, most notably characters
from other fairy tales, such as Snow White and The Gingerbread Man. The
film was very popular and has spawned two sequels as of June 2007, Shrek 2
and Shrek the Third."
So, really, it's a made-up word.
You monkey.
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http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
http://www.ironeyefortress.com
Yeah, a monkey who's worried too much about Jews.
Knebel, don't come here with fuckin lies. The spelling is "Shrek".
Not, Schreck, Not Shreck, but Shrek. It is the way it is spelled in
the movie and the book. It is a Jewish word spelled by Jewish people
"Shrek". It is spelled Shrek in this Yiddish glossary
http://www.bubbygram.com/yiddishglossary.htm
If she spelled it wrong, tell the bitch, don't tell me.
It is a Jewish word. It is spelled Shrek in the language of Yiddish.
The language Jewish people speak. It has 5 letters, not 6, not 7
letters, but 5 letters. SHREK spells Shrek! Don't bring the Germans
into this because you people always do that.
"loosely based on the book"? you mean STOLEN.
I didn't know they stole it...but hell, they steal everything don't
they?
If it has Spielberg name on it or any berg, it's stolen.
That's a fact, jack.
The Starmaker
Well, if you're in Hollywood...and you want to make it there, your
first worry and concern should be the Jews.
That's a fact, Jack.
The Starmaker
If you're an actor and not Jewish
If you're a screenwriter and not Jewish
If you're a comedian and not Jewish
If you're a director, producer or wanting to have to do with anything
in Hollywood industry and you're not Jewish, ...you should be very
worried.
So if your first name is Whoopi, I would advise you to change your
last name to Goldberg.
Except that there's many non Jews that make it in Hollywood. So go take
your anti semetic rants elsewhere.
Oh you're such a catch. Not only anti-semetic but has hatred for women.
Who's next?
What you have here is, an Indoctrination of their religious belief
unto the rest of the world.
They are trying to "indoctrinate" their Jewish religion through their
entertainment medium on the rest of the world.
It is a slow process, as slow as evolution. It is a process of
inculcating their religious ideas and attitudes using the
entertainment medium as their delivery system.
You the indoctrinated person is expected not to question or critically
examine the doctrine they are inculcating in you.
You guys know what I'm talking about. You see it in their movies. They
are *shoving* their religion down your throat.
The Starmaker
Makes no damn difference to me. It never once felt Jewish or like I was
getting Jewish indoctrination. Maybe for a simpleton as yourself you
got the message. Me, I just enjoyed it for the fun it was. If they
really wanted to make it Jewish they would have made Shrek voiced by
Jackie Mason.
You're just too stupid. Here.
ZZZZZAP! -----> http://www.ironeyefortress.com/invisibility_ray.jpg
> What you have here is, an Indoctrination of their religious belief
> unto the rest of the world.
Oh, do shut up.
Are you completely fucking insane?
Don't answer that, it's blatantly obvious.
Jews don't proselytize. In fact, if someone comes to them and says "I
want to convert," they try to talk them out of it.
You're a fucking idiot.
The accent is Scottish. In fact on the first movie DVD commentary it says
that Canadian Mike Myers tried it originally with an Canadian accent. A lot
of the phrases like 'going the right way for a smacked bottom' come from his
childhood with British parents in Toronto.
So calling Shrek Jewish, Oy Vay! is a stretch.
Hebonics? You're a girl??
> Not only anti-semetic but has hatred for women.
> Who's next?
You see "hatred" in everthing, don't you, bubby? That could only mean one thing. The
only people who see "hatred" in everything are Jewish people. I just saw an arab go by, go hate.
Many, you're lying. Name one person, just one...I know how differcult
that would be for you,
but just name 0ne person who is a non-Jew who has made it in Hollywood.
Don't give me two names,
don't give me a hundred names, jsut give me "one" name.
> So go take
> your anti semetic rants elsewhere.
You're the one who hates Jewish people. For some reason you don't like
to see the word
Jewish written on the Internet. Are you having lunch now? Does the word
Jewish make you feel sick??
You speak yiddish, you said Shrek.
> Maybe for a simpleton as yourself you
> got the message. Me, I just enjoyed it for the fun it was. If they
> really wanted to make it Jewish they would have made Shrek voiced by
> Jackie Mason.
Television and movies have learned in history that Americans do not want
to hear Jewish accents.
Even Jewish people complain that Jackie Mason sounds toooo Jewish.
I cannot handle these intellectual arguments.
Up shut do.
George Clooney
You calling someone a bitch is hatred.
I'm sure Star will say all Scottish people are Jews.
You have to understand "movie making"...If it's Jewish name, the
accent is removed.
*They* don't want a Jewish voice accent in their films...that would
"turn off" the audience. This is all calculated in advance.
Now, did you see the movie "Independence Day"?
That is probably the only recent movie where they have a "Jewish
character", with a Jewish stereotype in it.
The part of the Jewish stereotype character is played by actor Judd
Hirsch. He plays a grubby unshaven old Jewish guy...
uses a lot of Hebonics to bring out the Jewish character...
The credits read:
Judd Hirsch .... Julius Levinson
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116629/
But the name Julius is Italian or Greek.
How many people you know in this world who's first name is Julius?
Why did they gave him an Italian or Greek, instead of a Jewish name
like Max?
It's calculated that way....these things are discussed in the
bathrooms.
The Starmaker
Wow. You're paranoia would be amusing if it wasn't so sad. You are the
Bizarro world Uncle Leo.
Once again you show your ignorance.
Here's a rather famous one, Julius Erving:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Erving
> Why did they gave him an Italian or Greek, instead of a Jewish name
> like Max?
Julius Erving is nothing close to being Italian or Greek.
>
> It's calculated that way....these things are discussed in the
> bathrooms.
Star, you continue to make an utter fool out of yourself. I'm thinking
you have to be a troll.
>
>
> The Starmaker
>
>
>
>
I don't hate bitches, I just don't like bitches.
Are you kidding me or what, you like bitches?
Or you just "hate" period? You love that word, "hatred" don't you.
It make you feel very Jewish, doesn't it?
There is a Gestapo in you chicken soup, shoot him before he gets away!
Do have a disgreement with something there?
Tom Cruise...lol
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We must change the way we live,
or the climate will do it for us.
He grew up in show business! There is a difference between "making
it", and "growing up in it".
His mother, a pageant queen,
His father, Nick, is a journalist, anchorman, game show and American
Movie Classics host.
His cousins include actors Miguel and Rafael Ferrer, who are the sons
of his aunt,
singer Rosemary Clooney, and actor José Ferrer.
He is also related to another singer, Debby Boone, who married José
and Rosemary's son, Gabriel Ferrer.
From an early age, Clooney would hang around his father's sets, often
participating in shows.
He's got show business up his ass!!!!
Julius Erving is not Jewish. Where did you get thet idea Julius Erving
is Jewish?
>
>
>
>> Why did they gave him an Italian or Greek, instead of a Jewish name
>> like Max?
>
>Julius Erving is nothing close to being Italian or Greek.
Nothing close to being Jewish either, so what's your point?
I looked back at this post I and I see where some might have been
misunderstood.
I wrote:
"How many people you know in this world who's first name is Julius?
Why did they gave him an Italian or Greek, instead of a Jewish name
like Max?"
It should read:
"How many "Jewish" people you know in this world who's first name is
Julius?
Why did they gave him an Italian or Greek, instead of a Jewish name
like Max?"
Now, ....about "Independence Day" which I forgot is today....
Yep, troll.
You asked how many people I know that are named Julius.
>
>
>>
>>
>>> Why did they gave him an Italian or Greek, instead of a Jewish name
>>> like Max?
>> Julius Erving is nothing close to being Italian or Greek.
>
> Nothing close to being Jewish either, so what's your point?
You just said Julius was an Italian or Greek name.
Julius Rosenberg.
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/rosenb/ROS_ACCT.HTM
You're dumber than a stump, Star.
I can aleady hear Star coming up with some new disclaimer of why that
deosn't count. LOL
You're basing that on what, nothing of course.
What you lack are the facts. The truth. So here are a little fact...
As you can see...
Judd Hirsch .... Julius Levinson
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116629/
Now, the character name is Julius.
If you look at the original script to "Independence Day"...
There is no Julius.
http://sfy.ru/sfy.html?script=independence_day
Is that paranoia?
The name you will see is "MOISHE". A real Jewish name.
So why did they change the name of the Jewish character from
MOISHE a Jewish name to a Julius, a non-Jewish name?
Paranoia on my part? Give me a break, puleease.
All I hear are crickets.
;)
[drivelsnip]
> Is that paranoia?
>
>
> The name you will see is "MOISHE". A real Jewish name.
>
> So why did they change the name of the Jewish character from
> MOISHE a Jewish name to a Julius, a non-Jewish name?
>
> Paranoia on my part? Give me a break, puleease.
Here's something you might want to consider:
If you're hearing voices in your head and you're not wearing an ipod.. you
might want to make an appointment with a good doctor of that 'Jewish'
science, psychology... unless they're out to get you.
You just being intellectual dishonest. What's worse, you don't even want
to look it it, you're in denile.
I feel sorry for you. You have your head in the sand, ...which leaves
only one thing exposed...
>What you lack are the facts. The truth. So here are a little fact...
>
>As you can see...
>
>Judd Hirsch .... Julius Levinson
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116629/
>
>
>Now, the character name is Julius.
>
>If you look at the original script to "Independence Day"...
>
>There is no Julius.
>
>http://sfy.ru/sfy.html?script=independence_day
>
>
>Is that paranoia?
>
>
>The name you will see is "MOISHE". A real Jewish name.
>
>So why did they change the name of the Jewish character from
>MOISHE a Jewish name to a Julius, a non-Jewish name?
>
>Paranoia on my part? Give me a break, puleease.
>
>
>
Can anybody else care to speculate why the name change?
I couldn't care less.
I couldn't rule it out, I would have to do a DNA test on him.
If you believe you are seeing trolls, the rule is don't feed them and
they will go away.
Cop out.
How about John Wayne? Arnie? Heston? Rock Hudson?
Sheesh.
Jews make up less than 2% of the population (1.4% 2001 Census). You
shouldn't be afraid of them. You should applaud them for making such a
visible and positive impact on the growth of the United States as a whole.
Of course, some people just need to cling to archaic hatreds to boost
their own self-esteem. Says nothing about the Jews. Says everything
about you.
Nah, I will continue to make fun of them so all their crazy ideas will
forever be debunked in the Google archives.
Well, let me elaborate. The insight (off topic for this newsgroup) about
Shrek being "Jewish" was interesting enough for an enlightening and fun
series of posts.
Yet another tiring, boring rant about Jews ruining the country is something
that activates my automatic shut-off valve.
Oh yeah, he certainly isn't blatantly Jewish, in the sense that he wears a
yarmulke and says Seder. I just think that the character and setting is
very much taken from a specific Yiddish storytelling tradition. Shrek's
persona includes Scottish and of course Scandanavian elements.
Interesting, an automatic shut-off valve.
I like it when they call me a "monkey".
I try to picture myself swinging from a tree and eating bananas.
Julius Rosenberg? The Jewish guy sent to the Electric Chair.
Wasn't it great in those days when they put Jewish people in electric
days? Now they
just go around stealing grand larceny style.
You know FDR...if *they* knew that there existed a Jewish guy named
Julius that was
sent to the electric chair for his crimes, they would have given him
that name in the movie.
Certaintly a mistake on their part.
But there's more...
So, when I was doing my "investigative reporting"
I was looking at this character in "Independence Day"
because it was unusual for Hollywood to have
Jewish stereotypes in their films...
Talk about paranoia, you won't believe how the actor
Judd Hirsch got the part! Or, how I concluded he got the part.
The part of the Jewish stereotype character is played by actor Judd
Hirsch. He plays a grubby unshaven old Jewish guy...
uses a lot of Ebonies to bring out the Jewish character...
The credits read:
Judd Hirsch .... Julius Levinson
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116629/
But the name Julius is Italian or Greek.
Now, the character name is Julius.
If you look at the original script to "Independence Day"...
There is no Julius.
http://sfy.ru/sfy.html?script=independence_day
The name you will see is "MOISHE". A real Jewish name.
So why did they change the name of the Jewish character from
MOISHE a Jewish name to a Julius, a non-Jewish name?
I guess "Moishe" sounds to the producer, toooooo Jewish.
They wanted to downplay the Jewish character Hirsch was playing.
Julius comes from:
Meaning: Jove's child. Form of Julius and family clan name of several
powerful Roman emperors.
Biblical Roman centurion Julius saved Paul's life during a hazardous
voyage.
It is of Greek origin, and its meaning is "Jove's child". Variant of
Julius, the family clan name of several of the most powerful Roman
emperors.
First used in the 18th century. Julien is the French form popular in
France. See also Giuliano. Musician Julian Lennon; activist Julian
Bond.
Julian has 8 variant forms: Jolyon, Jules, Juliano, Julianus, Julien,
Julio, Julius and Julyan.
So I looked into the "MOISHE" name...to see where did the screen
writer came up with it. And you
won't believe what I found!
When I did a google search for Moishe, it was a misspelling of the
name
Moshe, or purposely misspelled....more paranoia, yes?
Turns out Moshe is a fucking Rabbi!
If you got a name like Moshe, you would have to be a fuckin Rabbi.
Nothin wrong with that.
This rabbi Moshe has lots of article about him celebrating, Israel
Independence Day!
So there I found the connection between the name "MOISHE" in the
original script and
Moshe a rabbi with tons of news articles about him celebrating, Israel
Independence Day!
Okay, so the screen writer is trying to be true to life. Nothing wrong
with that. A film could use a little Jewish luck.
You know how these screenwriters write, trying to make things tie up
with other things....
But here comes the Paranoia!
Do you know what is the last name of Rabbi Moshe? The same rabbi who
has news articles
about him celebrating, Israel Independence Day! Same title of the
movie "Independence Day"?
The "MOISHE" or Moshe in the original script of "Independence Day"?
The Moshe played by
the actor, Judd Hirsch.
Do you know want to know what is the last name of Rabbi Moshe?
You just won't believe it!!!!!
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Rabbi Moshe's last name is...
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HIRSCH.
Can you believe it????
So....how did the actor Judd Hirsch get the part in the movie?
Don't tell me he got the part in the movie only because his last name
is Hirsch.
BECAUSE THAT'S FUCKIN PARANOIA!!!!!!! Isn't it?
The Starmaker
ROFLMAO.
Can I play? Julius Blum.
Ooooh! Oooooh! Julius Henry Marx!
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Bill Anderson
I am the Mighty Favog
Julius Caesar. Sid Caesar. All in the family.
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Frank in Seattle
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Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
"Millennium hand and shrimp."
Rats, that's the one I was gonna say.
or quick music online
http://www.dizzler.com/
I mean, you can find some hard to find songs ....quick..
also this one...
http://www.movieboxdaily.com/