'Dawson's Creek' Actors Engaged -- Just Not to Each Other
PUSSSYKATT
LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) - He's finished high school, dropped out of college --
now all that's left for "Dawson's Creek" star James Van Der Beek to do is get
married. Both Van Der Beek and co-star Kerr Smith announced Tuesday (Feb. 19)
that they are engaged -- but not to each other.
Van Der Beek recently proposed to his girlfriend of two years, actress Heather
McComb ("Party of Five"), according to "E! News Daily." No wedding date has yet
been set.
Meanwhile, Smith was also feeling in the mood for love when he proposed to his
girlfriend, actress Harmoni Everett ("Josie and the Pussycats"). Smith plays
the show's resident gay character, Jack McPhee.
Van Der Beek, who turns 25 on March 8, can next be seen in the feature "The
Rules for Attraction," which is set to be released later this year. His other
credits include the films "Varsity Blues" and "Texas Rangers."
Smith, who turns 30 on March 9, has appeared in the films "The Broken Hearts
Club," "The Forsaken," "Final Destination" and "Pressure."
Matt Madison-Clark
with his onscreen Dad?
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his hair out. Hah!!
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Tom Hens
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> > PK ADDS: I swear to God that was the real headline
> >
> Poor Kerr. He is the biggest homophobe. This headline will have him
> pulling his hair out. Hah!!
Kerr Smith is a homophobe? That seems odd. Please tell us more.
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character, Jack, and another actor who portrayed Jack's boyfriend Tobey, he
was interviewed about whether such an event would become common on the show.
He said he "Got the annual smooch with a guy." ''It's not the most fun thing
in the world, but I agreed to play this role, and [producer] Greg Berlanti
does want to take it that far.'' Smith draws the line at one kiss a year.
''That's as far as I'm going to take it. I don't think teenagers need to see
two guys kissing on a weekly basis.''
He also is constantly stating how he is straight, "unlike my character". As
if any of us could forget it. Among the show's fans, of which I am one,
there is a consensus that he is a homophobic ass.
It's really a shame because the show was brave enough to do things that no
other shows were willing to do, and he seems to be holding it up. The
character came out on the show forever ago and yet there's been *nothing*
but that one kiss. Even after that kiss the couple never kissed again. Last
night Jack went to the *straightest* gay bar I've ever seen.
I know it can't all be blamed on the actor. I'm sure the writers are
screwing up as usual, but I can't help but feel he has something contractual
that limits his involvement in male/male intimacy.
Matt Madison-Clark
like all they do is take party drugs and fuck.
I've yet to find a show that portrays gay life accurately. Will and Grace
comes close.
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> Well you could have the opposite in Queer as Folk that makes gay men look
> like all they do is take party drugs and fuck.
>
> I've yet to find a show that portrays gay life accurately. Will and Grace
> comes close.
Except, IMO, by never giving Will a boyfriend, they're setting up a lot of
viewers to route for Will & Grace to get together. You know that won't
happen and I know that won't happen, but it's amazing how many people think
that way.
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None
several women who have kissing scenes with other women make similar
comments, no one seems to think they're about to go off the deep end and
beat up a lesbian. Of course maybe there's much more to the story.
I've never quite figured out the Will and Grace thing. At this point
getting together would be so unbelievably improbable it seems unthinkable.
I guess it's just one of those things better left thought little about in
favor of just enjoying the show. (Although it's too bad the redhead doesn't
have the brunette's rack. Or Will's for that matter.)
Alexandra
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> That's awful thin footing on which to call him a homophobe. I've seen
> several women who have kissing scenes with other women make similar
> comments, no one seems to think they're about to go off the deep end and
> beat up a lesbian. Of course maybe there's much more to the story.
I didn't say he was about to beat up any gay men. I don't think violent acts
are part of the definition of homophobia.
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>
None
acts
> are part of the definition of homophobia.
You may not have, but haven't you ever watched MTV? If you're uncomfortable
with homosexuality, you're a homophobe, the best thing you can say about
homophobes are at they they're uneducated and most likely they are simply
bigots, and their attitude is the kind of thing that leads to young gay men
being beaten, and blah blah blah.
Tom Hens
Alexandra <purple...@nyc.rr.com> wrote...
> After the first male/male kiss aired on DC last Spring between his
> character, Jack, and another actor who portrayed Jack's boyfriend Tobey,
he
> was interviewed about whether such an event would become common on the
show.
> He said he "Got the annual smooch with a guy." ''It's not the most fun
thing
> in the world, but I agreed to play this role, and [producer] Greg
Berlanti
> does want to take it that far.'' Smith draws the line at one kiss a year.
> ''That's as far as I'm going to take it. I don't think teenagers need to
see
> two guys kissing on a weekly basis.''
> He also is constantly stating how he is straight, "unlike my character".
As
> if any of us could forget it. Among the show's fans, of which I am one,
> there is a consensus that he is a homophobic ass.
Too bad. From my limited exposure to Dawson's Creek, he seemed to be the
least untalented actor in the cast. (But then, who is to tell who is or
isn't a good actor when all they've got to work with is such atrocious
writing, and when you've got a bunch of twenty-something adults having to
pretend being teenagers.)
> It's really a shame because the show was brave enough to do things that
no
> other shows were willing to do, and he seems to be holding it up. The
> character came out on the show forever ago and yet there's been *nothing*
> but that one kiss. Even after that kiss the couple never kissed again.
I watched that kiss episode out of curiosity. It was so totally unrealistic
it made me laugh -- two young guys who've finally realised they have the
hots for each other, and all they do is kiss briefly? At the very least
they could have subtly hinted at them having sex after the prom. It's
really appalling that this was still a big deal in the US. Even daytime
soaps in Europe have advanced to the stage of showing guys in bed together.
Tea Monkey
homophobe is someone who is uncomfortable with homosexuality, the next step is
not young, gay men being beaten. That would be a result of a sick person who
irrationally hates homosexuals. Uncomfortable does not equal hate.
People can be uncomfortable for various reasons. Unfamiliarity being one. Also,
some of the gay men I know are well...pretty over the top and out there and yes,
their demeanour would make many people uncomfortable. Some of the exchanges in
this group are a perfect example. Geez, I'd be equally embarassed and
uncomfortable if either a gay or straight friend made some of the remarks
submitted to this NG!! Does that mean I want to beat up a gay man? Absolutely
not.
Alexandra
Uh, yeah. I don't see what watching MTV has to do with this. Random...
I know what a homophobe is. What my point was is that in order to be one,
you don't have to be going around inflicting physical harm to gays.
None
> homophobe is someone who is uncomfortable with homosexuality, the next
step is
> not young, gay men being beaten. That would be a result of a sick person
who
> irrationally hates homosexuals. Uncomfortable does not equal hate.
Yes, I know. That's not _my_ definition, that's the definition fed through
some media outlets.
> People can be uncomfortable for various reasons. Unfamiliarity being one.
Also,
> some of the gay men I know are well...pretty over the top and out there
and yes,
> their demeanour would make many people uncomfortable. Some of the
exchanges in
> this group are a perfect example. Geez, I'd be equally embarassed and
> uncomfortable if either a gay or straight friend made some of the remarks
> submitted to this NG!! Does that mean I want to beat up a gay man?
Absolutely
> not.
Exactly. However, when it comes to homosexuality any degree of admitted
discomfort can cast a very negative light on the uncomfortable person if
they actually vocalize or express such feelings. Beyond that the attitude
is that people just need to be "educated" to get over such discomfort. I
have zero problem with homosexual relationships, I have virtually no
problems with legal recognition of gay marriages, and like most men I have
the usual interest in fantasies about women with women. However, I can't
easily watch two men going at it on a visual level. I know gay women who
have little more stomach for it than I do. I know gay men who dislike
seeing hetero couples go at it as well. I don't believe that sort of thing
makes one homophobic, nor does it require being 'educated' past.
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"Alexandra" <purple...@nyc.rr.com> virtually chirped:
>"Matt Madison-Clark" <madclark@ n o s p a m .verizon.net> wrote in message
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>> I've yet to find a show that portrays gay life accurately. Will and Grace
>> comes close.
>
>Except, IMO, by never giving Will a boyfriend, they're setting up a lot of
>viewers to route for Will & Grace to get together. You know that won't
>happen and I know that won't happen, but it's amazing how many people think
>that way.
I'd say that the last year & a half of ELLEN was remarkably realistic.
Well, I doubt many lesbians statistically go do Civil War re-enactment
on the weekend, but, hey, probably some do. WILL & GRACE specifically,
to me, would be a realistic portrait of old stereotypes.
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Dennis Lewis
Christian" <be...@bettybowers.com> wrote:
>
>What does JVB's boyfriend think of this?
I want an invitation to Van Der Beek's bachelor party -- especially if
John Wesley Shipp is going to be the host.
(I was going to type, "Who do I have to su-k to get an invite to James
Van Der Beek's bachelor party," but I didn't want to cause Betty to
clutch her pearls...)
morte...@yahoo.com
He was talking about his Dawson's role on the cast commentary track on
Final Destination, and he didn't seem the most enthusiastic about a
playing a gay character. Though I got the impression he was mostly
annoyed that people thought he was gay because of the role (and sent
him letters asking advice if they should come out to their parents,
etc...)
Tea Monkey
Dennis Lewis wrote:
>
> (I was going to type, "Who do I have to su-k to get an invite to James
> Van Der Beek's bachelor party," but I didn't want to cause Betty to
> clutch her pearls...)
A perfect example of what I was talking about earlier.
Ed
Christian" <be...@bettybowers.com> wrote:
>What does JVB's boyfriend think of this?
>
Mr. Shipp was unavailable for comment... :)
Jeg7777
> So what about Billy Master's blind item pretty much linking Van Der Beek
> with his onscreen Dad?
What about it? They can still hook up. :-)
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>
>He was talking about his Dawson's role on the cast commentary track on
>Final Destination, and he didn't seem the most enthusiastic about a
>playing a gay character. Though I got the impression he was mostly
>annoyed that people thought he was gay because of the role (and sent
>him letters asking advice if they should come out to their parents,
>etc...)
This is a bit strange since Smith played a gay character in "The Broken Hearts
Club", after he was already starring in Dawson's Creek, and he also played a
gay character in some stage play recently. Why would he continually take gay
roles if he had such issue with it??
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Little Flower
is not a homosexual. So why in the world would he enjoy or even look forward to
doing it other than it being part of his job? To be P.C.?? I dont believe
someone should change the way they feel in order to be politically correct. I'm
a heterosexual woman and I have no problems kissing men. Kissing other women
however, does not appeal to me and frankly, I wouldn't do that even if I was
being paid millions of dollars. Does that make me a homophobe? No. It's just me
being true to myself and my sexual preferences. My best friend, who is 100% no
doubt about it gay...and has been so all of his 35 years of life...finds it
positively NASTY -- flat out refuses to even consider one day that he might
have to kiss a women. Does that make him a heterophobe?? No. It just means he
has his sexual preferences...and they include blond, muscular, MEN. Not women.
And he and about three other of my gay co-workers absolutely get offended at
the thought of being confused as heterosexual men.
it's all personal peferences -- Some like ranch dressing with their french
fries some prefer ketchup. Are the ranch dressing fans accused of being
ketchup-phobes?? No.
Little Flower
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fine if he feels that way. This isn't a matter of being PC.
The point is that he is an actor and it's his job to play a gay character.
When he makes statements about what the audience does and does not want to
see based on his personal feelings of not wanting to kiss a guy more than
once a year he's inflicting his personal views on us. This type of statement
just wasn't necessary. Instead he had to be some sort of macho guy about it.
An "I'm not a gay guy, but I play one on TV" kind of act. He could take a
cue from Eric MacCormack. You don't hear him spouting this crap.
It's called acting, anyway. If he doesn't want to kiss another man more than
once a year, and thinks no one wants to see gay men kiss on tv anyway,
maybe he shouldn't have taken the job.
-Alexandra
Little Flower
>once a year, and thinks no one wants to see gay men kiss on tv anyway,
>maybe he shouldn't have taken the job.
Was he originally hired to play a gay character?? It's been so long since those
first few eps. he appeared in...anyone out there remember?? I could have sworn
he was dating Joey -- was the gay storyline added later???
Little Flower
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Yes, he was hired to play this gay character whose life was very very
roughly based on someone in real life & their experience finding
themselves. Yes, he was dating Joey in the beginning, but at that
point he was still fighting himself about being gay & dreading coming
out to his father if he couldn't get himself to somehow be straight.
What was it Wesley Snipes said about kissing a man in a movie, as an
actor? Something about how you were acting & it was just like you were
kissing a puppy or something. Anyway it was a classy, no big deal, way
to talk about it. Of course, I guess Snipes really is a man & Smith is
still a boy. Will Smith made an ass of himself after he took a high
profile gay role in 6 DEGREES but at least now he regrets what a
buffoon he was about the kiss.
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Alexandra
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when he was hired he wasn't supposed to be a gay character. He was dating
Joey, etc. When he got the script that said he would be struggling with his
homosexuality he wasn't happy, but eventually decided to stick it out- that
it would be a challenge.
IMO, this is when he should have quit. At the Museum of TV and Radio the
other someone asked if the actors had any influence over the plots. Kerr
said Yes. That it was his idea for the plot where Jack and Jen hooked up
because he's (Kerr) not gay (no! really?) and he was sick of kissing guys
all the time.
If he wanted a challenge then he should be up to the challenge. But it seems
to me he's half-assing his way through the role, attempting to make Jack
only a teensy bit homosexual, and still get a pay check. I think it's a
shame. When I imagine what someone *really* committed could do with the
role, who isn't hung up on what the audience is going to think about *them*,
it makes me sad.
Apparently, he's the only one who hasn't signed on for a sixth season,
though, if there is one. So, maybe he's finally getting it.
-Alexandra : )
Big J
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> he would be struggling with his homosexuality
> he wasn't happy, but eventually decided to stick it out
Just wanted to see that phrase again.
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> > he would be struggling with his homosexuality
> > he wasn't happy, but eventually decided to stick it out
>
> Just wanted to see that phrase again.
>
> Big J
>
>
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The One
>
> IMO, this is when he should have quit. At the Museum of TV and Radio the
> other someone asked if the actors had any influence over the plots. Kerr
> said Yes. That it was his idea for the plot where Jack and Jen hooked up
> because he's (Kerr) not gay (no! really?) and he was sick of kissing guys
> all the time.
Ok, I haven't watched DC in a long time...when did Jack and Jen hook up?? Or
did he just pitch this idea?
Regina
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> >
> > IMO, this is when he should have quit. At the Museum of TV and Radio the
> > other someone asked if the actors had any influence over the plots. Kerr
> > said Yes. That it was his idea for the plot where Jack and Jen hooked up
> > because he's (Kerr) not gay (no! really?) and he was sick of kissing
guys
> > all the time.
>
> Ok, I haven't watched DC in a long time...when did Jack and Jen hook up??
Or
> did he just pitch this idea?
>
> Regina
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sex for the first time, that same night. Jack and Jen were staying in the
same cabin and they spent the night drinking and talking. Then suddenly they
were making out like crazy. Strangely, Jen was the one who stopped it from
going all the way. She said that she knew that Jack was really gay, but in
denial. It was really random.
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