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TheGloryofRome

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Oct 21, 2007, 2:10:00 AM10/21/07
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You will never get an honest answer about race form a White person, as
they have been trained to say what they are suppose to say about race:
Which is a scripted dialog of political correctness, also known as
bullshit.

Knowledge

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Oct 21, 2007, 8:40:31 AM10/21/07
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AMEN!...and AMEN! :-)

At least I have the satisfaction of knowing that I tried my best to
open their cob webbed eyes to some truths when I have to stand before
the SUPREME BEING, and make an accounting of how I lived my life.

IF...there is an afterlife, most Caucasians are going to be in big big
trouble.

If there is no afterlife, I still have the satisfaction of knowing
that I lived without filling my mind with ethnic hatred, and Terabytes
of other garbage that causes MOST Caucasians to be so devoid of
ethics and morality.

Free your mind! And your arse will follow.

chatnoir

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Oct 22, 2007, 9:59:25 AM10/22/07
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On Oct 21, 6:40 am, Knowledge <knowled...@charter.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:10:00 -0700, TheGloryofRome
>

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.page19oct19,0,2580239.story

Focus on nooses in news misses bigger racial picture
Clarence Page
October 19, 2007

Nooses are in the news lately. I'm relieved that no one has been found
hanging from any of them.

All that any lamebrain has to do in order to make news, it seems, is
to tie a rope into a noose and hang the knotty symbol of segregation-
era lynchings in a conspicuous place.


A news database search of "noose" quickly turned up one found recently
at a Long Island police station locker room, another in a tree on the
University of Maryland, College Park campus and another in a black
Coast Guard cadet's bag aboard a cutter. A noose found on the office
door of a black professor at Columbia University led to a student-led
anti-racism rally.

Reported noose sightings have risen nationally in the months since
nooses dangling from a schoolyard tree raised racial tensions in Jena,
La. Or maybe it is just the reports of noose sightings that have
risen. Since thousands of demonstrators, including the Revs. Jesse L.
Jackson and Al Sharpton, descended on Jena for a highly publicized
march in September, news media seem to be running to noose stories
like children to a candy truck.

Unfortunately, racism is not easily covered by conventional news media
these days. Television dramatically conveyed the binary good-vs.-evil
issues at stake in the fight against segregation in the 1950s and
'60s. Today's issues are more complicated and, if anything, better
suited to radio, which can provide an insightful theater of the mind
when its power is not being hijacked by demagogues. TV is better
equipped to cover sports than civil rights. In sports, players on a
level field strive to compete against accepted standards of excellence
in front of viewers who share a common base of information. Disputes
in sports usually are argued in terms of inches and seconds. Disputes
about race are more nuanced and complicated. We don't have commonly
shared rulebooks. Instead, our knowledge is based on personal
experiences that are vastly different.

Today's America has come a long way since the segregated bad old days.
For that, we can thank the hard-won victories of the civil rights
movement. Racism hasn't disappeared, but it is getting harder to
identify, especially when our vision of the future is clouded by old
symbols from the past.

Still, the return of the noose to public view and national news should
remind us, for example, of what a relic the old knotted rope has
become.

Today's young black males kill more young black males in a year than
the Ku Klux Klan killed in its entire history. Historians have
documented more than 4,700 lynchings of African-Americans between 1882
and 1968. In 2005, the latest full year of FBI statistics, almost
8,000 black Americans were murdered, mostly by other black Americans.

It is an ironic sign of progress that the white knuckleheads who made
history by making nooses have been driven into the shadows. They hang
nooses, then run and hide. The terror inflicted by black knuckleheads
stays with us.

In black America, today's debate often is defined as a choice between
such iconic figures as Mr. Sharpton and actor-turned-activist Bill
Cosby. Mr. Cosby has co-authored a book with Alvin F. Poussaint of
Harvard University's Medical School called Come on People: On the Path
from Victims to Victors. The black community's most urgent problems,
they argue, are rooted in a self-defeating culture of violence and
victimhood. Whereas the Rev. Al calls on us to reform "the system,"
Cos says we need more personal responsibility. That's a false debate.
We need to do both.

We have a personal responsibility to fix the system when and where it
is broken. We also need to fix what is broken in our families and
communities, whether TV covers it or not. Otherwise, we're hanging a
noose around our own necks.

dacato

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Oct 22, 2007, 2:12:09 PM10/22/07
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On Oct 21, 7:40 am, Knowledge <knowled...@charter.net> wrote:
> IF...there is an afterlife, most Caucasians are going to be in big big
> trouble.
>
> If there is no afterlife, I still have the satisfaction of knowing
> that I lived without filling my mind with ethnic hatred, and Terabytes
> of other garbage that causes MOST Caucasians to be so devoid of
> ethics and morality.
>
Do you realize every time you post this crap that you are showing your
own racist tendancies. Ironic isn't it?

And I really wish you would stop making such stupid generalizations
about White people. When you use the term MOST, it implies a) a
majority and b) implies that you know MOST White people.

Well you don't know me and I am tired of being lumped into your MOST
White people category. Get a life and stop projecting your
inadequacies on the rest of us.


Knowledge

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Oct 23, 2007, 10:04:05 PM10/23/07
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:12:09 -0700, dacato <daca...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

I'm sorry that the truth is disturbing to you, but these are the facts
none-the-less.

The Whites like yourself who claim not to be hate mongers are RARELY
in positions of power where they can bring about positive Racial
change to this country.

By far MOST of the people who run this country are White Supremacists;
regardless of their party affiliation.

They seem to have no problems approving America attacking and
destroying huge numbers of innocent humans as long as they aren't
"White " people.

Here is a survey that is about two years ago that strongly shows how
much race hate MOST White people have.

66666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666
# Politics after Hurricane Katrina

2005 Racial Attitudes and the Katrina Disaster Study ... The racial
composition of the respondents is as follows: White: 703, Black: 487,
Hispanic: 52, ...

melissaharrislacewell.com/docs/Katrina_Initial_Report... - Similar
pages

http://melissaharrislacewell.com/docs/Katrina_Initial_Report.doc
# [PDF]

A Common Destiny: Blacks and American Society (1989)

http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=1210&page=120


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/sidebars/polls/race071101.htm

Extremism across Europe
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?sid=145

You figure it out from here.

James Bath

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Oct 24, 2007, 11:19:19 AM10/24/07
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I suspect that the fiery hatred you are showing toward white people is
actually extreme self-hatred for your own racial makeup, projected outward
so that you don't have to admit your own personal qualities (which you deem
inferior) to yourself. This is elementary psychology. Look up "projection"
in a college textbook on psychology.


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Mich...@gmail.com

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Oct 24, 2007, 8:41:10 PM10/24/07
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>>By far MOST of the people who run this country are White Supremacists;
>>regardless of their party affiliation.

Really, well at least you are being honest. Instead of all of that
bull about spreading racial harmony, you admit that your is a
political bent. You dislike the current leadership and are attacking
them by calling them racist. It's not original, but not altogether
unexpected.

And you have proof of your claims? (Beside some phony polls I mean)

IB Edumacated 2

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Oct 26, 2007, 1:52:06 PM10/26/07
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"James Bath" <ba...@bellsouth.net> wrote in
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> I suspect that the fiery hatred you are showing toward white people is
> actually extreme self-hatred for your own racial makeup, projected
> outward so that you don't have to admit your own personal qualities
> (which you deem inferior) to yourself. This is elementary psychology.
> Look up "projection" in a college textbook on psychology.
>

BINGO!!! Step right up and claim your prize!!!!!

If he could have engineered his own gene pool, he'd probably be playing
lacrosse and dancing the polka right about now.

dacato

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Oct 26, 2007, 5:12:26 PM10/26/07
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On Oct 24, 10:19 am, "James Bath" <ba...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> I suspect that the fiery hatred you are showing toward white people is
> actually extreme self-hatred for your own racial makeup, projected outward
> so that you don't have to admit your own personal qualities (which you deem
> inferior) to yourself. This is elementary psychology. Look up "projection"
> in a college textbook on psychology.
>
> "Knowledge" <knowled...@charter.net> wrote in message
>
Wow, I wish I had said that. You hit the nail on the head with this
one.

The White Patriot

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Nov 1, 2007, 5:08:46 PM11/1/07
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| By far MOST of the people who run this country are White Supremacists;
| regardless of their party affiliation.
|

Really and that is why we have millions of mestizos just pouring into our
Country?? That is why we have millions of gooks? And millions of every
single non-White type of savage the world has to offer: because the USA is
ran by White Supremacists?? You really need to take your meds!! You see if
they where White Racialists they would not only stop the mud flow from
Mexico; but, also and as well deport all of the spics that are here already.
Send the blacks with them, and toss the gooks into the ocean.

This is not happening so I am left to assume that you are wrong about your
assertion.


pico

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Nov 1, 2007, 9:40:37 PM11/1/07
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"The White Patriot" <curtis_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> [...] because the USA is
> ran by White Supremacists??

Well, now we know this jerk is a lower-income Ohio native.

"ran". Dutch hangover influence. Illiterate bastard.


The White Patriot

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Nov 1, 2007, 10:35:00 PM11/1/07
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Is that the best attack of my intelligence and character that you can
muster?? Ohio?? Really from one idiom that differs from "proper" English,
you can tell that I am from Ohio, and low income?? Wow, have you contacted
Madame Cleo, maybe she has a job for you. But for fun lets assume that I am
both illiterate and low income: how would that make my basic point that we
are overran with coloreds invalid? And how would my educational level and
social status affect the fact that our leaders here in America are not
concerned with the fact that we are overran with coloreds? Also how would
that effect the fact that my conclusion that our leaders are not racists?
Oh, that is right it wouldn't in the least. That is form of false argument
that is not effective except on the coloreds that have a 70 iq.

As to the 'illiterate bastard", once again people from different parts of
the USA use different idiom to express ideas: it does not make one
illiterate. But since you can not dispute the basic fact that our leaders
are not White Racialist, you have to take the niggers way of argument and
try to hurl insults to attack me rather than my ideas. You are a mental
midget. Please hang yourself and save the rest of us some oxygen.

pico

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"The White Patriot" <curtis_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "pico" <pico.pico.net> wrote in message
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> | "ran". Dutch hangover influence. Illiterate bastard.


>
>
> Is that the best attack of my intelligence and character that you can
> muster?? Ohio?? Really from one idiom that differs from "proper"
> English,
> you can tell that I am from Ohio, and low income?? Wow, have you
> contacted
> Madame Cleo, maybe she has a job for you. But for fun lets assume that I
> am
> both illiterate and low income: how would that make my basic point that we
> are overran with coloreds invalid?

There you go again with "overran". How about over run?

> And how would my educational level and
> social status affect the fact that our leaders here in America are not
> concerned with the fact that we are overran with coloreds?

Your educational level has nothing to do with "our leaders". There is no
connection. And you used the word 'overran' again.

> Also how would
> that effect the fact that my conclusion that our leaders are not racists?
> Oh, that is right it wouldn't in the least. That is form of false
> argument
> that is not effective except on the coloreds that have a 70 iq.

IQ is capitalized. And your figure is incorrect.

> As to the 'illiterate bastard", once again people from different parts of
> the USA use different idiom to express ideas:

You aren't really talking about 'idiom', which is a metaphor. You mean
colloquial.

> But since you can not dispute the basic fact that our leaders
> are not White Racialist,

Oh, so that is the subject now? Okay.

> you have to take the niggers way of argument and
> try to hurl insults to attack me rather than my ideas.

Your ideas are worthless crap. What more is there to say?


The White Patriot

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Nov 1, 2007, 11:12:48 PM11/1/07
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"pico" <pico.pico.net> wrote in message
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|
| "The White Patriot" <curtis_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
| news:lOidnYhIxvpMEbfa...@wavecable.com...
| >
| > "pico" <pico.pico.net> wrote in message
| > news:13il00n...@news.supernews.com...
|
| > | "ran". Dutch hangover influence. Illiterate bastard.
| >
| >
| > Is that the best attack of my intelligence and character that you can
| > muster?? Ohio?? Really from one idiom that differs from "proper"
| > English,
| > you can tell that I am from Ohio, and low income?? Wow, have you
| > contacted
| > Madame Cleo, maybe she has a job for you. But for fun lets assume that I
| > am
| > both illiterate and low income: how would that make my basic point that
we
| > are overran with coloreds invalid?
|
| There you go again with "overran". How about over run?


It is a parculiarity of the regional dialect that I speak. We you see have
a good number of Germans that settled here and that is the turn of phrase
that they use, and I picked it up. Basically I can see that you can not do
anything other than attempt to pick on grammatical errors. Your skills at
argument are lame and weak.

|
| > And how would my educational level and
| > social status affect the fact that our leaders here in America are not
| > concerned with the fact that we are overran with coloreds?
|
| Your educational level has nothing to do with "our leaders". There is no
| connection. And you used the word 'overran' again.

Right just as your attempt to paint me as a dumb hillbilly has no connection
to if we are in fact being inundated with third world savages. You are
obviously merely a troll and an idiot one at that.


|
| > Also how would
| > that effect the fact that my conclusion that our leaders are not
racists?
| > Oh, that is right it wouldn't in the least. That is form of false
| > argument
| > that is not effective except on the coloreds that have a 70 iq.
|
| IQ is capitalized. And your figure is incorrect.
|
| > As to the 'illiterate bastard", once again people from different parts
of
| > the USA use different idiom to express ideas:
|
| You aren't really talking about 'idiom', which is a metaphor. You mean
| colloquial.
|

1. For you lowercase is just fine; it surely puts the matter in perspective.

2. As to the figure for most coloreds that is about right. They are not
that much smarter than you. If you work hard you can get to where they are.

3. IDIOM: n. 2. The language or dialect of a region or people. [<French
<Latin < Greek. IDIOS--ONES OWN] as per the 1975 Funk& Wagnells Standard
Encyclopedic Dictionary.


| > But since you can not dispute the basic fact that our leaders
| > are not White Racialist,
|
| Oh, so that is the subject now? Okay.

That is the subject of the post that I posted and that you attempted in your
niggerish manner to reply to: Yes!


|
| > you have to take the niggers way of argument and
| > try to hurl insults to attack me rather than my ideas.
|
| Your ideas are worthless crap. What more is there to say?
|
|

I am done playing with you. But know this you are a sissy that would not
break a grape in the real world. You surely would not talk to me like this
to my face. How does it feel to know that you need to hide behind a
computer screen to be a badass??


jpcar...@gmail.com

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Nov 2, 2007, 10:11:55 AM11/2/07
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To say that "any and all discussions about race are useless" is
equivalent to saying any and all discussions about anything is
useless. Why talk it about when it won't do any good. I know let's
fight or kill each other over our differences. Problem solved, let's
move on.

I would agree that many leaders, if not all, have some hidden
agenda(s) and I would imagine some are racially motivated. I would not
agree that ALL of our country's leaders are racist, or white
supremacist. In fact I would even like to suggest that there may be
some black supremacist(s) in positions of power. Niether have to be
overtly so, but with their agenda(s), hidden (maybe even to
themselves) their decisions are likely to be influenced by them.

1. All white people are in power.
2. All people in power are bad, therefore,
3. All white people are bad.

Both premises must be true in order for the resultant logic to be
true. Since there are more than just white people in positions of
power argument one is false. Since there are inevitably good people in
positions of power (probably newly acquired positions, ha) argument
two is falise. Since both premises are false 3 is ulitmately false.
Now I haven't completed Logic 101 so my terminology may not be proper
but I think you get the gist so dont come attacking me.

This is somewhat divergent from the topic but it is true terrible
things have happened to blacks at the hands of colonial entreprenuers.
Is colonial America the only folks ever to enslave fellow humans? It
has been happening since recorded history. It was realized and
stopped, at least in its blatant forms and here in N. America. I
can't speak for other country's and I understand to sex slave trade
to be quite booming. Marx would argue it is still at hand, that is
slavery, in the class struggle between the bourgeoisie (sp, no time
for spell check) and the proletariat. The working class is paid just
enough to sustain them as a worker and no more ( I just read the
Communist Manifesto for the first time ever ; P ). Slaves weren't paid
monetary sums, but received enough food to barely sustain themselves.
Bad things happen and will continue to happen now and in the future.

Ramble, ramble.....I got to go take my meds now.....

Overran, over run....who cares.....I mean really?


On Oct 23, 9:04 pm, Knowledge <knowled...@charter.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:12:09 -0700, dacato <dacat...@hotmail.com>

> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/sidebars/polls/race071101...
>
> Extremism across Europehttp://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?sid=145
>
> You figure it out from here.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


jpcar...@gmail.com

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Nov 2, 2007, 10:25:31 AM11/2/07
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On Nov 2, 9:11 am, "jpcarlis...@gmail.com" <jpcarlis...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> To say that "any and all discussions about race are useless" is
> equivalent to saying any and all discussions about anything is
> useless. Why talk it about when it won't do any good. I know let's
> fight or kill each other over our differences. Problem solved, let's
> move on.
>
> I would agree that many leaders, if not all, have some hidden
> agenda(s) and I would imagine some are racially motivated. I would not
> agree that ALL of our country's leaders are racist, or white
> supremacist. In fact I would even like to suggest that there may be
> some black supremacist(s) in positions of power. Niether have to be
> overtly so, but with their agenda(s), hidden (maybe even to
> themselves) their decisions are likely to be influenced by them.
>
> 1. All white people are in power or better All people in power are white
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

jpcar...@gmail.com

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Nov 2, 2007, 10:28:57 AM11/2/07
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On Nov 2, 9:11 am, "jpcarlis...@gmail.com" <jpcarlis...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Updated to read a little more fluidly. I like fluids, especially those
made from hops and barley.

> 1. All people in power are white.

Wabenzi Prince

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Nov 2, 2007, 10:53:49 AM11/2/07
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It appears you had a little too much hops and barley when you wrote this ;)

pico

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Nov 2, 2007, 11:36:18 AM11/2/07
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"The White Patriot" <curtis_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "pico" <pico.pico.net> wrote in message
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> | There you go again with "overran". How about over run?


>
>
> It is a parculiarity of the regional dialect that I speak. We you see
> have
> a good number of Germans that settled here and that is the turn of phrase
> that they use, and I picked it up.

Sorry, Mate, it's not from German influence. It's from the Dutch.

> Basically I can see that you can not do
> anything other than attempt to pick on grammatical errors. Your skills at
> argument are lame and weak.

You don't even know how to make a straightforward statement. Let's look at
them again.

> Right just as your attempt to paint me as a dumb hillbilly has no
> connection
> to if we are in fact being inundated with third world savages. You are
> obviously merely a troll and an idiot one at that.

You see, that's not reasoning at all. You think we are being overrun by
Third World savages. You conclude that I disagree. Then you call me a troll
and an idiot. Man, talk about anti-communication.

So show me this innundation of Third World savages. Where are they? Who are
they? How many are they? How do they behave that bothers you? Facts,
Hillbilly. Facts!

> | Oh, so that is the subject now? Okay.
>
> That is the subject of the post that I posted and that you attempted in
> your
> niggerish manner to reply to: Yes!

You can call me a nigger here, but I'll bet you could not do it to my face.

> I am done playing with you. But know this you are a sissy that would not
> break a grape in the real world. You surely would not talk to me like
> this
> to my face. How does it feel to know that you need to hide behind a
> computer screen to be a badass??

Call me a nigger to my face and I'll blow you over with laughter.


mosq...@amnetline.com

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On Nov 2, 10:11 am, "jpcarlis...@gmail.com" <jpcarlis...@gmail.com>
wrote:


> Bad things happen and will continue to happen now and in the future.
>
> Ramble, ramble.....I got to go take my meds now.....
>
> Overran, over run....who cares.....I mean really?

<snipperoonie>

Yeah, boy, I care for your wasting bandwidth with your bullshit. Go
take your meds. A double dose. Maybe a triple dose. A fourple dose
might even be better along with a couple of bourbons. The coroner can
pick up your corpse in the morning.

jpcar...@gmail.com

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Nov 2, 2007, 5:54:43 PM11/2/07
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My bullshit is funnier than your bullshit, meds or no meds and without
hate. Are you old enough to even have bourbon? Did you forget to go
to your anger management class this week? Let me know how much
bandwidth you would like me to keep my posts to so I can try and avoid
upsetting you in the future. OOPS! I just caught getting caught up in
your angry juvenile antics. I smell teen angst (and latent homosexual
undertones). Really though, was it the space I used to display my
opinion or was there something offensive in my post that you wish to
discuss (on or offline). I have to admit though 'fourple' is nice and
original.

Later Hate Monger

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