Is Jacko mentally ill?
PUSSSYKATT
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Michael Jackson is unfit to be around kids - and must be kept from sleeping
with boys, top shrinks and child-welfare experts said after viewing a jolting
TV special last night.
"Clearly, this is a man who's suffering from a mental illness," said Dr.
Michael Nuccitelli, executive director of SLS Health, a psychiatric facility in
upstate Brewster.
"You can see him float in and out of reality."
Dr. Patricia Farrell, a Bergen County, N.J., psychologist, said, "I question
his ability to be a father. This man makes up the world as he wants it."
They spoke to The Post after ABC TV aired scenes of Jacko showing off his
heavily masked kids and confessing he still shares his bed with friends' kids.
Interviewer Martin Bashir got permission to film Jacko and his family for eight
months in what the pop star apparently thought would be a tribute that would
help restart his sagging career.
But it apparently backfired - as millions of viewers watched in horrified
fascination as Jacko's weird day-to-day lifestyle was unveiled.
One image particularly shocked Farrell: Jacko bottle-feeding his baby, Prince
Michael II, through a veil of thick gauze. Jackson "is contributing to serious
mental-health problems for these kids in the future," Farrell said.
The psychologist was upset on hearing one of Jacko's kids deny having a mother.
"Have you ever heard a kid say, ‘I didn't have a mommy?' " she asked.
Jackson's confession that he still invites youngsters for sleepovers, even
after he was investigated on child sex-abuse charges 10 years ago, should be a
red flag to investigators, the shrinks said.
"After this show, the authorities really have to act," Farrell said. "I
wouldn't be surprised if charges were brought against him, as well as the
parents who let their children stay over."
Matrimonial lawyer Raoul Felder, who has handled many high-profile
child-custody cases, said, "Jackson has made a very good case for the
child-protection people to come in."
Felder said Jacko's practice of making his kids don masks is not only cruel -
it could backfire.
"He says he's worried about them getting kidnapped. Well, the effect is the
opposite. He's actually giving the kidnappers directions: Take the kid with the
mask."
Bashir said he felt uncomfortable during much of his time with Jacko.
"The problem is, he appears to exist in a world he has constructed himself," he
said.
Jacko's ex-wife Debbie Rowe, mother of his first two kids, rushed to her ex's
defense.
"He's a really wonderful, loving, caring man and he's not portrayed as he
really is and it really pisses me off," she said on a London TV program.
* * *
JACKO DENIES CHILD ABUSE, BLASTS BASHIR
NY POST....
--------------------------
Wacko Jacko bitterly denies being a child-abusing monster. "Everyone who knows
me will know the truth, which is that my children come first in my life - and
that I would never harm any child," he raged in a statement released yesterday.
His British representative, Stephen Lock, added: "Michael Jackson has never,
and would never, treat a child inappropriately or expose them to any harm."
Jacko - who said he was bombarded with e-mails supporting him after a
documentary presenting his bizarre lifestyle and obsession with children aired
in London, blasted interviewer Martin Bashir:
"I trusted Martin Bashir to come into my life and that of my family because I
wanted the truth to be told," he said.
". . . I feel more betrayed than perhaps ever before that someone who had got
to know my children, my staff and me, who I let into me heart . . . could then
sacrifice the trust I placed in him and produce this terrible and unfair
program."
* * *
Jackson faces third law$uit
NY POST/PAGE SIX...
JUST when it seemed Michael Jackson couldn't possibly have any more trouble,
he's about to get hit with another multimillion dollar lawsuit.
Wacko Jacko - who is already busy fending off suits by Myung Ho Lee, the former
head of Jackson International LLC, and concert promoter Marcel Avram - this
time faces a court challenge from his former investment banker, Kathleen Kelly.
Kelly, now an executive at Credit Lyonnais, claims Jackson never paid her for
two years of work. The case will be heard in New York after a California court,
where it was originally filed, tossed it on jurisdictional grounds.
"Kathleen did all his work and [Jackson] never paid her and never intended to
pay her. He always plays dumb in the end after every financial deal [to try to
avoid responsibility]," Kelly's lawyer, Timothy McGonigle, told PAGE SIX.
"Jackson has a problem with taking care of his obligations. Kathleen is suing
for $2 million in unpaid salary and for punitive damages which could reach $10
million."
The dispute arose out of a private equity fund Jackson tried to create.
"Michael Jackson wanted to be a Merv Griffin type and be involved in and own
media interests so he wouldn't have to perform anymore," McGonigle said. "He
wanted to make money without having to hustle for the [music] business. I got
the feeling he didn't enjoy performing live."
The superstar's business methods were unusual. "At one point there was a witch
doctor involved," McGonigle said. "Michael brought in this voodoo guy to
provide financial advice. There was a falling out and the witch doctor put a
hex on Michael until he got paid."
Jackson might be reluctant to pay Kelly because - despite his claims in the
documentary last night on ABC that he is a billionaire - others say he is
heavily in debt.
"It is unclear if [Jackson] has any money at all," McGonigle said. "At one
point his accountants told him he was insolvent, but the value of the Beatles
catalogue which he co-owns with Sony is valued [by some] around $1 billion. He
has debt loans of $270 million, but I heard he is trying to buy Jennifer Lopez'
house in Los Angeles, so there must be some cash."
Jackson's lawyer, Zia Modabber, didn't return calls.
* * *
By DAVE GOLDINER
NY DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Michael Jackson wants the world to know that he's not a freak.
Jackson, 44, who admits that he still sleeps in the same bed with young
children, whined that he felt "betrayed" by the makers of the British tell-all
documentary that aired last night on ABC's "2-0/20."
His lawyers filed complaints with two television watchdogs in Britain, saying
he had been unfairly treated by celebrity interviewer Martin Bashir.
"Today I feel more betrayed than perhaps ever before," Jackson said in the
statement.
The complaints alleged the documentary "contains the clear innuendo that Mr.
Jackson is guilty of inappropriate behavior with children."
In 1993, Jackson was accused of molesting a boy who stayed at his Neverland
ranch. He denied the allegations and reached an out-of-court financial
settlement with the boy's family. No charges were filed.
Jackson also complained that his three kids, whom he makes wear veils, appeared
on TV.
The mother of two of Jackson's three children jumped to his defense.
"It breaks my heart that anyone could truly believe that Michael would do
anything to harm or endanger our children," said ex-wife Debbie Rowe, who has
no contact with the kids and said she bore them as a gift to the bizarro King
of Pop.
Granada, the company behind the documentary, said the program was "a truthful,
open and intimate portrayal of many aspects of Michael Jackson's extraordinary
life."
Jackson calls the kiddie sleepovers harmless fun - and says he simply tucks in
his young visitors and reads them stories.
But the nation's largest anti-abuse advocacy group for kids say it's time to
investigate.
"If any of us had a neighbor we knew to be engaged in this kind of activity, we
would report him to the appropriate authorities," said Prevent Child Abuse CEO
Sidney Johnson. "Jackson has raised enough red flags for us to be concerned."
But Santa Barbara County District Attorney Thomas Sneddon has condemned the
"media circus" around the documentary.
"Sleeping in bed with a kid is not a crime that I know of," he told the Santa
Barbara News-Press. He did not return calls for additional comment last night.
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dessie
wrote:
>NY POST/By BILL HOFFMANN
(everything snipped except)
>The psychologist was upset on hearing one of Jacko's kids deny having a mother.
I bet those kids think they don't have a mother--not because she's
dead, or mommy & daddy are divorced, etc. (those explanations would be
*way* too normal)--but because they just *don't*. MJ probably has led
them to believe they just *emanated* somehow from his body, or they
were spirited down from heaven, borne by pink naked cupids or
something.
dessie
Lady Taker
> Wacko Jacko bitterly denies being a child-abusing monster. "Everyone who
knows
> me will know the truth, which is that my children come first in my life -
and
> that I would never harm any child," he raged in a statement released
yesterday.
I have never really read much on pedophiles, so someone correct me if I'm
wrong, but don't most pedophiles say they would never hurt a child because
they love them so much? I thought it was part of the pathology of a pedo
that they thought they were being nice to a child and they all pretty much
declare that they would never hurt them.
(And I'm not talking about John Wayne Gacy and that type -- they have
another whole pathology thrown into the mix.)
--
Giselle
Lady Taker
<dessie> wrote in message news:3e43d912....@news.wf.net...
Yep, probably those same pink naked cupids that were in that Wacky-Tacky oil
painting he had.
Or maybe they think the "stalk" brought them. (<- God, I love that line.
You guys are just going to have to read it until I tire of it, you know.)
---
Giselle
Devines
"Lady Taker" <vol...@ccrtc.com> wrote in message
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>
> <dessie> wrote in message news:3e43d912....@news.wf.net...
> > On 07 Feb 2003 15:21:11 GMT, agcgoss...@aol.com (PUSSSYKATT)
> > wrote:
> >
> > >NY POST/By BILL HOFFMANN
> >
> > (everything snipped except)
> >
> > >The psychologist was upset on hearing one of Jacko's kids deny having a
> mother.
> >
> > I bet those kids think they don't have a mother--not because she's
> > dead, or mommy & daddy are divorced, etc. (those explanations would be
> > *way* too normal)--but because they just *don't*. MJ probably has led
> > them to believe they just *emanated* somehow from his body, or they
> > were spirited down from heaven, borne by pink naked cupids or
> > something.
> >
> > dessie
>
> Yep, probably those same pink naked cupids that were in that Wacky-Tacky
oil
> painting he had.
OMG, when I saw that painting it just made my skin crawl........that was one
of the more disturbing items that he had
Lady Taker
"Devines" <sdevi...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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I wonder if he posed for it? If he draped a table napkin around his naughty
bits and put that angelic look on his face? I wonder if he had to tell the
artist to use his Thriller face instead of the one he has now? Do you think
he told the camerapeople to make sure they got good photos of it because it
was so wonderful? Ah, all the unanswered questions. I hope the do a "The
Making Of..." so we can get all the inside poop.
--
Giselle
Quatorzejames
"I wonder if he posed for it? If he draped a table napkin around his naughty
bits and put that angelic look on his face? I wonder if he had to tell the
artist to use his Thriller face instead of the one he has now? "
well, it's *not* his "thriller" face in the disturbing painting, miss
smartypants.
that's his "history" face, ca "have you seen my childhood".
he was doing a real maxfield parrish thing, with saucer eyes and a center part
like jackson brown.
he looked-ed hell cute in "scream", yo.
aemilia
wrote:
>> Yep, probably those same pink naked cupids that were in that Wacky-Tacky
>oil
>> painting he had.
>
>OMG, when I saw that painting it just made my skin crawl........that was one
>of the more disturbing items that he had
>
I know! It was obviously a copy of a multitude of Bouguereau paintings
from the mid to late 1800s like this one:
http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/bouguereau/printemps.jpg
and I found it extremely disturbing. In fact, the whole damn thing was
disturbing...and let me tell you, I do not disturb easily. The look on
his face when he was talking about sleeping in the bedroom with Gavin
made my skin crawl.
aemilia
Lady Taker
"Quatorzejames" <quator...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030207170237...@mb-cd.aol.com...
> lady taker said
> "I wonder if he posed for it? If he draped a table napkin around his
naughty
> bits and put that angelic look on his face? I wonder if he had to tell
the
> artist to use his Thriller face instead of the one he has now? "
>
> well, it's *not* his "thriller" face in the disturbing painting, miss
> smartypants
I'm sorry, my eyes melted and I was screaming hysterically before I saw it
for very long. (Thank God.)
---
Miss Smartypants, who knows how to use a Caps key and punctuation, too
Aware1
dented & constricted & squeezed out the following:
Watch it there, MISSY - !
Aware1, Miss Smartypants fan & then some!
--
Yawcah
Sorry...
b
(I know, I don't like to use that language, but, if the shoe fits...)
Lulu
what it's worth.
-Lu
Lady Taker
"Yawcah" <yaw...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030207190305...@mb-mq.aol.com...
Oh, I don't know if he's a sick fork but I think he's a few tines short of a
dessert.
:)
--
Giselle
::elijah::
> knows
> > me will know the truth, which is that my children come first in my
life -
> and
> > that I would never harm any child," he raged in a statement released
> yesterday.
>
> I have never really read much on pedophiles, so someone correct me if I'm
> wrong, but don't most pedophiles say they would never hurt a child because
> they love them so much? I thought it was part of the pathology of a pedo
> that they thought they were being nice to a child and they all pretty much
> declare that they would never hurt them.
>
I recently took a class in abuse, so I'm familiar with the different types
of pedophiles. Yes, some pedophiles feel they aren't harming the children,
but loving them. Michael seems to be what is called a "fixated pedophile."
This type of pedophile considers themselves to be trapped in childhood and
so they relate better to children. They will put themselves in a position
to have acess to boys (living in an amusement park). They become a friend
or mentor and this gains the trust of the child. Fixated pedophiles are
also "same-sex pedophiles," meaning they fantasize about same-sex children
but deny being homosexual. They also do not participate in heterosexual
relationships with adults.
--
******************************
::elijah::
::keeper of madonna::
******************************
azindn
> On Fri, 07 Feb 2003 16:49:58 GMT, "Devines" <sdevi...@rogers.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> >> Yep, probably those same pink naked cupids that were in that Wacky-Tacky
> oil
> >> painting he had.
> >
> >OMG, when I saw that painting it just made my skin crawl........that was one
> >of the more disturbing items that he had
> >
>
> I know! It was obviously a copy of a multitude of Bouguereau paintings
> from the mid to late 1800s like this one:
>
> http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/bouguereau/printemps.jpg
>
upscale, casino
gift shop of knock-off antiques and third-rate, commercial
paintings...at
least he doesn't buy Thomas Kinkaid crap, but pretty near just as bad.
Sothoby's
announced he still owes millions for paintings he purchased through
them.
Jackson could put his empty hours and money to use educating himself.
It was obvious he's never gone beyond high school. Rather than roam
the halls of a
Las Vegas hotel in a mobilized chair or play video arcade games to
fill his empty life, he could further his own education. I thought
the way he played to the camera in the store with a sad demonstration
of conspicuous consumption. Perhaps it was the MJ equivalent to
Winnona's shop lifting in Saks.
spree.
> and I found it extremely disturbing. In fact, the whole damn thing was
> disturbing...and let me tell you, I do not disturb easily. The look on
> his face when he was talking about sleeping in the bedroom with Gavin
> made my skin crawl.
Agreed. Gavin is another problematic situation where MJ preys on
vunerable
ill kids who obviously are dazzled by the money and lifestyle, and
want to be
around a celebrity able to give them what is not attainable in their
own life. I
don't believe Gavin's parent/s are media savvy people. It struck me
as the
parent of Gavin, mother?, did not speak English fluently as the kid
did, or was
there a sister speaking about how the doctor's told the family Gavin
was
going to die.
Was it ever clearly explained exactly what kind of terminal illness
Gavin had, and where was treated -- St. Jude's or Children's Hospital?
Did MJ pay the medical bills for the family? That would ensure a
grateful parent willing to permit their child time with the generous
patron, who wants to hold hands?
How did MJ find Gavin -- on his door step? Who arranged that
situation? If the
parent, or parents of Gavin are uninformed because of a language
barrier,
they probably have no comprehension of MJ's sordid history of child
molestation charges.
Gavin didn't act like he was too bothered cuddling with MJ, either.
Nor did he seem
unfamiliar with cameras and reporters asking questions. Gavin's story
did not ring quite true for me. Rather, it was sick, exploitive, and
very disturbing. Rather than show MJ in a positive light, it simply
underscored Jackson's predatory nature couched in terms of
concern for extremely ill children, disadvantaged kids, and faked
humanitarian gestures.
Craig Smith
>> Wacko Jacko bitterly denies being a child-abusing monster. "Everyone who
>knows
>> me will know the truth, which is that my children come first in my life -
>and
>> that I would never harm any child," he raged in a statement released
>yesterday.
>
>I have never really read much on pedophiles, so someone correct me if I'm
>wrong, but don't most pedophiles say they would never hurt a child because
>they love them so much? I thought it was part of the pathology of a pedo
>that they thought they were being nice to a child and they all pretty much
>declare that they would never hurt them.
That's pretty much NAMBLA's standard line.
.:. Craig
Doctor Wu
agcgoss...@aol.com (PUSSSYKATT) wrote:
> Michael Jackson is unfit to be around kids - and must be kept from sleeping
> with boys, top shrinks and child-welfare experts said after viewing a jolting
> TV special last night.
Does anyone besides me think he was incredibly stupid for doing this
interview in the first place? Does he have the same publicist as Whitney
Huston, another one who should have just kept her mouth shut for the
cameras? They are trying to convince the world they are OK, but instead
they are looking like the freaks (as well as unfit parents) they truly
are.
--
Lisa
Centre of the Known Universe
"Lulu" <nos...@nospam.org> wrote in message
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> MJ does indeed exhibit clear signs of an axis II mental illness. For
> what it's worth.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Lu
Well colour me ignorant, darling, but what's that? To me he seemed just
totally self-involved and delusional. The kids - the cancer kid - the lying
and the crass demand for constant publicity - I'm sorry - I have *no* use
left for him - he's the vortex of so many, many things that are very wrong.
Sending Hugs
LCM
Julie B.
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Remove the "NOSPAM" to e-mail me.
Lulu
>>-Lu
Excuse me, but do you think the term "mental illness" somehow implies
special dispensation to be "totally self-involved and delusional,"
(which MJ indeed is...this is part and parcel of whatever disorder(s) he
has) or that MJ is to be admired and/or coddled because of his illness?
I don't believe that I implied such in my statement above. I simply
wrote what I believe to be the truth about MJ -- there is ample evidence
that he is indeed mentally ill.
And just in case you actually care, an axis II mental illness is one
that is long-term and an integral part of the person's perception of
themselves and of the world around them (ie: a personality disorder) as
opposed to short-term and linked to a particular event/events (ie:
clinical depression). That's a drastic oversimplification, but that's
the gist of it.
-Lu
Yawcah
b
maryanne kehoe
to enter into things about why Wacko is the way he is today.
JosieCat
>
>I missed it :(
>
>WDW365
>
These type of interviews are usually aren't shown in reruns. You can try
finding someone who taped it and can send you a copy.
Aware1
constricted & squeezed out the following:
>>Does anyone know if and when the MJ interview will be rebroadcast?
Gosh, I wonder why - ?
*innocent blink*
Aware1
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Wyowildchild
"maryanne kehoe" <atl...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Didn't MJ accuse his dad of abuse when he was growing up? That
has got
> to enter into things about why Wacko is the way he is today.
>
I heard on TV that VH1 will be replaying it, but I have no idea
when.
Ronda