Study shows link between homosexuality and pedophilia

[The Chief Instigator]

A new study by Dr. Timothy J. Dailey and the Washington D.C.-based
Family Research Council recently confirmed what police and psychiatrists
have known for decades: a definitive link exists between male
homosexuality and pedophilia.

The report entitled Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse, shows that
while homosexual men make up less than three per cent of the adult male
population, they commit a disproportionate number (one third or more) of
child sexual molestations. Dailey's report is being sent to parents,
youth groups, school administrators, Catholic bishops, and religious
organizations.

Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse presents a number of controversial
findings. The first is that a significant percentage of child sexual
abuse victims are boys. The second finding of Dailey's report
contradicts the "inaccurate but widely accepted claims of sex researcher
Alfred Kinsey" that homosexuals comprise at least 10 per cent of the
population. Based upon a study of three large data sets, the General
Social Survey, the National Health and Social Life Survey, and the U.S.
Census, "a recent study in demography estimates the number of exclusive
male homosexuals in the general population at 2.5 per cent, and the
number of exclusive lesbians at 1.4 per cent," writes Dailey.

The FRC study also demonstrates, with a wealth of anecdotal evidence,
that pedophile themes can be found throughout "mainstream" gay
literature, including fiction anthologies such as: The Penguin Book on
International Gay Writing, The Gay Canon: What Every Gay Man Should
Read, and A History of Gay Literature: The Male Tradition.
Interestingly, the late gay Beat poet Allen Ginsberg was a pedophile,
and wrote articles for publications associated with the North American
Man-Boy Love Association. "I reread Collected Poems and Ginsberg's two
subsequent collections, surprised by the pattern of reference to anal
intercourse and to pederasty that emerged," writes Dailey.

According to Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse, pedophiles have long
existed as a subculture within the gay rights movement. Dailey quotes
David Thorstad, a homosexual activist and founding member of NAMBLA, to
demonstrate that by 1985, pedophilia had gained acceptance within the
homosexual movement, as it was in that year that NAMBLA was admitted as
a member in New York's council of Lesbian and Gay Organizations and the
International Gay Association. In the words of Jim Kepner, at one time
the curator of the International Gay and Lesbian Archives in Los
Angeles: "A point I've been trying to make is that if we reject the
boylovers in our midst today, we'd better stop waving the banner of the
ancient Greeks, of Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Oscar Wilde, Walt
Whitman, Horatio Alger, and Shakespeare. We'd better stop claiming them
as part of our history unless we are broadening our concept of what it
means to be gay."

The link between homosexuality and pedophilia is rejected by many
mainstream research groups, which have even begun to view pedophilia in
value-neutral terms. The American Psychiatric Association removed
pedophilia from its list of sexual perversions in 1994, while in 1999
the American Psychological Association published a report, "A
Meta-Analytic Examination of Assumed Properties of Child Sexual Abuse
Using College Samples," which "claimed child sexual abuse could be
harmless and beneficial," according to a 1999 WorldNetDaily column by
noted researcher Dr. Judith Reisman.

"None of this is news in the sense that this information (the link
between pedophilia and homosexuality) was fundamentally proven a long
time ago," Canada Family Action head Brian Rushfeldt told The Interim,
"but I'm glad to see the FRC reiterating it, especially at a time when
the Catholic church is struggling with the pedophile priest issue."

Rushfeldt stresses that pedophiles come in both homosexual and
heterosexual forms, but there are differences between the two that need
to be understood. "Do you treat the cocaine addict the same way you
treat the alcoholic? If a priest abuses young boys, that's a homosexual
act, and we have to recognize it as such if we want to help him."

Asked why the link exists in the first place, Rushfeldt, a former
addiction counselor, says part of the answer lies in the availability of
sex. "Sex addicts generally need instant gratification. They have a very
low threshold for delaying gratification, and it's much easier to
manipulate a young boy into having sex than it is to manipulate another
man." He adds that homosexual pedophilia is influenced by other factors
as well.

"There's a distinct quality about male homosexuality that gay men tend
to be attracted to young, good-looking guys. Another part of
pedophilia's appeal is the power the pedophile feels in manipulating the
boy. It's a combination of things."
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[ram...@truthonly.com.swordofbaal]

"The Chief Instigator" wrote in message
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> A new study by Dr. Timothy J. Dailey and the Washington D.C.-based Family
> Research Council

Lies cut


A new study, Ha ha ha ha ha it is around 10 years old, the first of many
lies.

http://www.theinterim.com/2002/sept/02study.html

[Greg Carr]

The only solution to the homosexual agenda is changing the law to make
homosexual activity punishable by death

[C. Neil Ellwood]

On Tue, 22 May 2012 00:10:51 -0700, Greg Carr wrote:

>
> The only solution to the homosexual agenda is changing the law to make
> homosexual activity punishable by death

Yeah - Let's go back to the middle ages.


--
Neil
Reverse ‘a’ and ‘r’
Remove ‘l’ to get address.

[bugbear]

C. Neil Ellwood wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2012 00:10:51 -0700, Greg Carr wrote:
>
>>
>> The only solution to the homosexual agenda is changing the law to make
>> homosexual activity punishable by death
>
>
> Yeah - Let's go back to the middle ages.

The good old days!

BugBear

[Whisky-dave]

It;s happened in many countries even today after 1000s of years of
trying,
homosexuality is still happening so changing the law(s) does nothing.
It's not that homosexuality is the problem it's thb pedophiles and a
lot of the victims
are actually female, but then with a brain as small as yours I doubt
you've noticed that
small fact.
Maybe you should read more recent findings, but they do require a
small amount of inteligence to understand
so maybe it'll be a waste of your time.

[bugbear]

The Chief Instigator wrote:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/21/north-carolina-pastor-gay-rant-starvation_n_1533463.html

BugBear

[Barry OGrady]

The problem is that once a person deviates enough to be a homosexual
it is only a small step to pedophilia.

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God is a spirit. 0% proof!

[ram...@truthonly.com.swordofbaal]

"Barry OGrady" wrote in message
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> The problem is that once a person deviates enough to be a homosexual
> it is only a small step to pedophilia.

Of course you forget the vast majority of paedophiles are heterosexual.

[Barry OGrady]

Not in relative terms.

[ram...@truthonly.com.swordofbaal]

"Barry OGrady" wrote in message

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On Wed, 23 May 2012 00:34:48 +1000, <ram...@truthonly.com.Sword of
Baal> wrote:

>"Barry OGrady" wrote in message
>news:1p2nr7troiac67hpr...@4ax.com...
>
>>> The problem is that once a person deviates enough to be a homosexual
>>> it is only a small step to pedophilia.
>
>
>> Of course you forget the vast majority of paedophiles are heterosexual.

> Not in relative terms.

.

Ok Barry prove that with some official Government data, not those lies of
the known bigots, that is always quoted, but something we can all believe.

[Laquisha Liprub]

If a big cock taste good to Obama, it good fo' ever body!!

[Laquisha Liprub]

Well, da economy be better back then.

[Laquisha Liprub]

Now you mad at God because you be a homo. dat be youown fault.

[Laquisha Liprub]

If dat be true, how comes da homo men all be fuckin' little boys?

[Michael Moore]

In article <jpgfcd$sru$6...@wieslauf.sub.de>

He's tasted enough of them. He should know.

[M.I. Wakefield]

"The Chief Instigator" wrote in message
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> A new study by Dr. Timothy J. Dailey and the Washington D.C.-based Family

> Research Council ...

No, it's not new.

And it's been thoroughly debunked:
http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

Some conservative groups have argued that scientific research strongly
supports their claims that homosexuality and pedophilia are linked. The
Family Research Council has produced what is perhaps the most extensive
attempt to document this claim. It is an article by Timothy J. Dailey titled
Homosexuality and Child Abuse.

With 76 footnotes, many of them referring to papers in scientific journals,
it appears at first glance to be a thorough and scholarly discussion of the
issue. On further examination, however, its central argument – that "the
evidence indicates that homosexual men molest boys at rates grossly
disproportionate to the rates at which heterosexual men molest girls" –
doesn't hold up.

In the following section, the main sources cited by Dailey and the FRC to
support their claim are reviewed. The papers are listed in the same order in
which they are first cited by the FRC article.

Freund et al. (1989). Heterosexuality, homosexuality, and erotic age
preference. Journal of Sex Research, 26, 107-117.
This article is discussed above in the "Other Approaches" section. As the
FRC concedes, it contradicts their argument. The abstract summarizes the
authors' conclusion: "Findings indicate that homosexual males who preferred
mature partners responded no more to male children than heterosexual males
who preferred mature partners responded to female children."



Silverthorne & Quinsey. (2000). Sexual partner age preferences of homosexual
and heterosexual men and women. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 29, 67-76.
The FRC cites this study to challenge the Freund et al. data (see the
previous paper above). However, the methodologies were quite different.
Freund and his colleagues used a sample that included sex offenders and they
assessed sexual arousal with a physiological measure similar to that
described below for the 1988 Marshall et al. study. Silverthorne and Quinsey
used a sample of community volunteers who were asked to view pictures of
human faces and use a 7-point scale to rate their sexual attractiveness. The
apparent ages of the people portrayed in the pictures was originally
estimated by Dr. Silverthorne to range from 15 to 50. However, a group of
independent raters perceived the male faces to range in age from 18 to 58,
and the female faces to range from 19 to 60.

The article doesn't report the data in great detail (e.g., average ratings
are depicted only in a graphic; the actual numbers aren't reported) and the
authors provide contradictory information about the rating scale (they
describe it as a 7-point scale but also say it ranged from 0 to 7, which
constitutes an 8-point scale). In either case, it appears that none of the
pictures was rated as "very sexually attractive" (a rating of 7). Rather,
the highest average ratings were approximately 5.

On average, gay men rated the 18-year old male faces the most attractive
(average rating = about 5), with attractiveness ratings declining steadily
for older faces. They rated the 58-year old male faces 2, on average. By
contrast, heterosexual men rated the 25-year old female faces the most
attractive (about 5), with the 18- and 28-year old female faces rated lower
(between 2 and 3) and the 60-year old female faces rated the least
attractive (about 1).

A serious problem with this study is that the researchers didn't control for
the possibility that some of the faces pictured in the photos might simply
have been more or less physically attractive than the others, independent of
their age or gender. The researchers explicitly acknowledged this
shortcoming, speculating that the women's faces in the 25-year old group
might have been more attractive than women's faces in the other age groups.
But they didn't address the possibility that the attractiveness of the male
and female faces may not have been comparable.

This issue could have been addressed in various ways. For example, prior to
collecting data, the researchers could have started with a large number of
photographs and asked a group of independent raters to evaluate the general
physical attractiveness of the face in each photo; these ratings could have
been used to select photos for the experiment that were equivalent in
attractiveness. Getting independent ratings of experimental stimuli in this
way is a common procedure in social psychological research.

Thus, even if one accepts the questionable assumption that this study is
relevant, it doesn't support the FRC's contention that gay men are more
likely than heterosexual men to be child molesters for several reasons:

the researchers failed to control for the varying attractiveness of the
different photos;
all of the faces portrayed in the photos were perceived to be at least 18;
and
the study merely assessed judgments of sexual attractiveness rather than the
research participants' sexual arousal.


Blanchard et al. (2000). Fraternal birth order and sexual orientation in
pedophiles. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 29, 463-478.
This study categorized convicted sex offenders according to whether they
molested or reported sexual attraction to boys only, girls only, or both
boys and girls. These groups were labeled, respectively, homosexual
pedophiles, heterosexual pedophiles, and bisexual pedophiles. This
classification referred to their attractions to children. Adult sexual
orientation (or even whether the men had an adult sexual orientation) wasn't
assessed.



Elliott et al. (1995). Child sexual abuse prevention: What offenders tell
us. Child Abuse & Neglect, 19, 579-594.
In this study, child sex offenders were interviewed. Their sexual
orientation (gay, heterosexual, bisexual) wasn't assessed. The authors drew
from their findings to suggest strategies for how parents and children can
prevent sexual victimization. It is noteworthy that none of those strategies
involved avoiding gay men.



Jenny et al. (1994). Are children at risk for sexual abuse by homosexuals?
Pediatrics, 94, 41-44.
This study, described above in the section on "Other Approaches,"
contradicts the FRC's argument. The FRC faults the study because the
researchers didn't directly interview perpetrators but instead relied on the
victims' medical charts for information about the offender's sexual
orientation. However, other studies cited favorably by the FRC (and
summarized in this section) similarly relied on chart data (Erickson et al.,
1988) or did not directly assess the sexual orientation of perpetrators
(Blanchard et al. 2000; Elliott et al. 1995; Marshall et al., 1988). Thus,
the FRC apparently considers this method a weakness only when it leads to
results they dislike.



Marshall et al. (1988). Sexual offenders against male children: Sexual
preference. Behaviour Research and Therapy, 26, 383-391.
In this study, the researchers compared 21 men who had sexually molested a
male under 16 years (and at least 5 years younger than themselves) to 18
unemployed men who were not known to have molested a child. Over a series of
sessions, each man watched color slides of nude males and females of various
ages and listened to audiotaped descriptions of both coercive and consensual
sexual interactions between a man and a boy. During the sessions, each man
sat in a private booth, where he was instructed to lower his trousers and
underwear and attach a rubber tube to his penis. The tube detected any
changes in penis circumference, with increases interpreted as indicating
sexual arousal.

The FRC cites this study as showing that "a homosexual and a heterosexual
subgroup can be delineated among these offenders." This is true but hardly
relevant to their claims.

The researchers categorized 7 offenders who were more aroused overall by the
male nudes than the female nudes as the homosexual subgroup. They
categorized 14 offenders who were more aroused overall by the female nudes
as the heterosexual subgroup. The offenders were not asked their sexual
orientation (gay, straight, bisexual) and the paper does not report any
information about the nature of the offenders' adult sexual relationships,
or even if they had any such relationships.



Bickley & Beech. (2001). Classifying child abusers: Its relevance to theory
and clinical practice. International Journal Of Offender Therapy And
Comparative Criminology, 45, 51-69.
This is a literature review and theoretical paper that discusses the
strengths and weaknesses of various systems for classifying child molesters.
In citing this study, the FRC says it:

refers to homosexual pedophiles as a "distinct group." The victims of
homosexual pedophiles "were more likely to be strangers, that they were more
likely to have engaged in paraphiliac behavior separate from that involved
in the offence, and that they were more likely to have past convictions for
sexual offences.... Other studies [showed a] greater risk of reoffending
than those who had offended against girls" and that the "recidivism rate for
male-victim offenders is approximately twice that for female-victim
offenders."
In reality, however, the paper was summarizing the findings of other
studies, not reporting new data. In the passage excerpted by the FRC, the
authors were discussing published papers that used a classification system
focusing entirely on the sex of victims (not whether the perpetrator is
straight or gay). Here is the complete text (the passages that FRC omitted
are highlighted):

"Grubin and Kennedy (1991) reported that when dividing sex offenders based
simply on the sex of their victims, offenders against boys stood out as a
distinct group. They noted that their victims were more likely to be
strangers, that they were more likely to have engaged in paraphiliac
behavior separate from that involved in the offence, and they were more
likely to have past convictions for sexual offences. Other studies have
employed the sex-of-victim approach in the prediction of future risk, with
offenders who have sexually abused boys or both boys and girls reported as
having more victims and being at greater risk of reoffending than those who
had offended against girls only [bibliographic references omitted]. In the
nondiagnostic remarks, DSM-IV (APA, 1994) claims that the recidivism rate
for male-victim offenders is approximately twice that for female-victim
offenders, and although not demonstrating such a marked difference,
Furby,Weinrott, and Blackshaw (1989), in an extensive review of recidivism
rates, found that reoffending was higher for male victim offenders. [¶]
However, the sex-of-victim distinction has not been consistently found, and
contrasting findings have been reported in studies that have demonstrated no
differences in recidivism rates between the groups [bibliographic references
omitted]. Furthermore, Abel, Becker, Murphy, and Flanagan (1981) found that
those child molesters who offended against girls reported more than twice as
many victims as those who had offended against boys, a finding contrary to
the hypothesized outcome." (p. 56)



Jay & Young. (1977). The gay report: Lesbians and gay men speak out about
sexual experiences and lifestyles. New York: Summit.
This book, published nearly 30 years ago by a team of writer-activists, is
not a scientific study. The authors' survey methodology is not reported in
detail and, because it was a journalistic work, the survey was never
subjected to scientific peer review.



Erickson et al. (1988). Behavior patterns of child molesters. Archives of
Sexual Behavior, 17, 77-86.
This study was based on a retrospective review of the medical records of
male sex offenders admitted to the Minnesota Security Hospital between 1975
and 1984. Apparently, 70% of the men abused girls, 26% abused boys, and 4%
abused children of both sexes. (The paper is unclear in that it doesn't
explain how perpetrators with multiple victims were counted.) The paper
asserts in passing that "Eighty-six percent of offenders against males
described themselves as homosexual or bisexual" (p. 83). However, no details
are provided about how this information was ascertained, making it difficult
to interpret. Nor did the authors report the number of homosexual versus
bisexual offenders, a distinction that the Groth and Birnbaum study
(described above) indicates is relevant.



In summary, the scientific sources cited by the FRC report do not support
their argument. Most of the studies they referenced did not even assess the
sexual orientation of abusers. Two studies explicitly concluded that sexual
orientation and child molestation are unrelated. Notably, the FRC failed to
cite the 1978 study by Groth and Birnbaum, which also contradicted their
argument. Only one study (Erickson et al., 1988) might be interpreted as
supporting the FRC argument, and it failed to detail its measurement
procedures and did not differentiate bisexual from homosexual offenders.

[nick c]

On 5/22/2012 8:51 AM, ram...@truthonly.com.Sword of Baal wrote:
>
>
> "Barry OGrady" wrote in message
> news:71bnr79j1k516kc9a...@4ax.com...
>
> On Wed, 23 May 2012 00:34:48 +1000, <ram...@truthonly.com.Sword of
> Baal> wrote:
>
>> "Barry OGrady" wrote in message
>> news:1p2nr7troiac67hpr...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>> The problem is that once a person deviates enough to be a homosexual
>>>> it is only a small step to pedophilia.
>>
>>
>>> Of course you forget the vast majority of paedophiles are heterosexual.
>
>> Not in relative terms.
> .
>
> Ok Barry prove that with some official Government data, not those lies
> of the known bigots, that is always quoted, but something we can all
> believe.
>
>

You seek official government data to validate a claim being made yet
post no official government data that would disprove the claim being
made. If the "lies of the known bigots" have been "always quoted"
throughout the years surely there must be irrefutable evidence to
support your contention that they are lies.

[ram...@truthonly.com.swordofbaal]

"Laquisha Liprub" wrote in message news:jpgffm$sru$8...@wieslauf.sub.de...

On 05/22/2012 07:34 AM, ram...@truthonly.com.Sword of Baal wrote:


>> Of course you forget the vast majority of paedophiles are heterosexual.
>
>
> If dat be true, how comes da homo men all be fuckin' little boys?

The are not.

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[§pamßuster]

SPAMMED INTO IRRELEVANT GROUPS - AND CUT
=================================================

"Laquisha Liprub" <sanders...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:jpgfcd$sru$6...@wieslauf.sub.de...

[§pamßuster]

SPAMMED INTO IRRELEVANT GROUPS - AND CUT
=================================================

"M.I. Wakefield" <none@present> wrote in message
news:7TPur.329$DN....@unlimited.newshosting.com...


Path: not-for-mail
From: "M.I. Wakefield" <none@present>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality,can.politics,rec.photo.digital,alt.gossip.celebrities
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%rwhois V-1.5:003fff:00 rs1so.cg.shawcable.net (by Network Solutions,
Inc. V-1.5.9.5)
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[§pamßuster]

[Fred Monroe]

On 2012-05-22 16:37 , §pamßuster wrote:
> SPAMMED INTO IRRELEVANT GROUPS - AND CUT

We didn't need help. As long as people ignore and especially not reply
to such drivel, there is no need to net cop.

[§pamßuster]

well, some suck bigger boys.

[ram...@truthonly.com.swordofbaal]

"§pamßuster" wrote in message news:jph09e$627$1...@wieslauf.sub.de...

Yes and some women also..............

Is that a problem for you?

[ram...@truthonly.com.swordofbaal]

"Michael Moore" wrote in message
news:CXUORKT14105...@reece.net.au...

You bigots get sillier and sillier.

[Unknown]

"§pamßuster" <§pamßus...@nimby.mx> wrote in message news:jph09e$627$1...@wieslauf.sub.de...

[LQ...@nowhere.com]

It's easier to rape a little kid than get over on another faggot when he
can see you've got AIDS. Creeps.

[Unknown]

"Lirng...@gmail.com" <LQ...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:q8adnXglsckntyHS...@giganews.com...



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[Unknown]

"Co...@minority.gov" <ConsR@minority,gov> wrote in message news:...

[§pamßuster]

SPAMMED INTO IRRELEVANT GROUPS - AND CUT

=================================================

"Lirng...@gmail.com" <LQ...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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[C. Neil Ellwood]

On Tue, 22 May 2012 13:38:55 -0700, §pamßuster wrote:

> SPAMMED INTO IRRELEVANT GROUPS - AND CUT
> =================================================
> "C. Neil Ellwood" <cral.el...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:95idnQb8SZsS_SbS...@bt.com...
>

Note - I didn't spam but just continued the cross posting that SpamBuster
started.


SpamBuster.
The original and worst spammer of all.

--
Neil
Reverse ‘a’ and ‘r’
Remove ‘l’ to get address.

[Wolfgang Weisselberg]

Barry OGrady <ath...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:

> The problem is that once a person deviates enough to be a homosexual
> it is only a small step to pedophilia.

And from there it's just another small step to crossposting to
unrelated groups.

-Wolfgang

[�pam�uster]

--

SPAMMED INTO IRRELEVANT GROUPS - AND CUT
=================================================

"Wolfgang Weisselberg" <ozcv...@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:ffsv89-...@ID-52418.user.berlin.de...


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Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality,can.politics,rec.photo.digital,alt.gossip.celebrities
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[C. Neil Ellwood]

On Fri, 25 May 2012 16:39:13 -0700, §pamßuster wrote:

> --
> SPAMMED INTO IRRELEVANT GROUPS - AND CUT

Why do you keep spamming and then tell all that it is other people, When
you was an even smaller child I'll bet you was the one telling tales on
others for the misdeeds you had done.

[Wolfgang Weisselberg]

Ah, the SpamSpitter does not follow Followup-To:-Headers and
actively removed it from the header extract. Typical spammer
slime behaviour.


An spammer, hiding itself behind the brainless pseudnym
"§pamßuster" <§pamßus...@nimby.ca>,
**********************************
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whois shawcable.net =>
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Geo-IP-location finds the IP 70.66.52.33 to be in Canada, British
Columbia, Vancouver Island, Nanaimo:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanaimo


Other Postings by this spammer had this data:
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-Wolfgang

[M.I. Wakefield]

"Wolfgang Weisselberg" wrote in message
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> Ah, the SpamSpitter does not follow Followup-To:-Headers and
> actively removed it from the header extract. Typical spammer
> slime behaviour.

Spambuster is Karen Gordon, of British Columbia, Canada, and can.politics is
the group she tries to net-cop.

Do with that information what you will.

[M.I. Wakefield]

"Wolfgang Weisselberg" wrote in message
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> Ah, the SpamSpitter does not follow Followup-To:-Headers and
> actively removed it from the header extract. Typical spammer
> slime behaviour.