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em...@email.com

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Dec 30, 2005, 10:20:20 AM12/30/05
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I figured this would be a good group to ask this question. (celebrities are
famous for their handbags!).

I want a Coach or a Louis Vuitton and was at the mall yesterday and looked
at both (we FINALLY got an LV boutique around here) but I just can't spend
that much. Well, the Coach I could do, but definitely not the LV. So I
looked online and there seems to be a lot of websites that offer knock-offs.
Of course, I have no idea how reputable they are (I won't list any of the
sites I found right now b/c I don't want someone to think I'm peddling the
sites, I'm not! I'm not trolling, but am really asking about this).

But what I wonder is: if I were to get a knock-off Coach or LV, can someone
tell just by looking at it that it's not the real deal?


diana

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Dec 30, 2005, 10:33:05 AM12/30/05
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<em...@email.com> wrote in message
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I don't know the answer to your question - I'm guessing someone who *knows*
the brand would clearly be able to tell it's a knockoff, but, interesting
you pose this question...
I've bought several knockoffs myself - off Ebay usually - and I'm quite
happy with them. I don't really care if Jane at the supermarket knows I
spent $60 instead of $6,000 on my handbag.

But also - I happened to look at the Jan. issue of Harper's Bazaar at the
beauty salon yesterday (Julianne Moore on the cover), and there were two
things.... many pages advertising VERY expensive bags - one was $22,000! No
kidding!
But then there was also an article ON knockoff handbags, and how the
countries that produce them (I admit a few of mine did come from Hong Kong)
use child labor in sweatshops.
Didn't have time to read the whole article, but I think I may go buy it so I
can.

I also suggest you post in alt.fashion - the gals over there will
undoubtedly be of more assistance to you on this subject.


em...@email.com

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Dec 30, 2005, 12:04:27 PM12/30/05
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"diana" <askf...@ifyouneedit.com> wrote in message
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>
> I also suggest you post in alt.fashion - the gals over there will
> undoubtedly be of more assistance to you on this subject.

Oh yea, DUH! I forgot about that newsgroup. I'll go ask there!

Thanks for your input!


stickyw

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Dec 30, 2005, 6:05:45 PM12/30/05
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Sorry, but I don't understand the popularity of designer handbags, real
or knock-offs.

Doomella

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Dec 30, 2005, 6:07:37 PM12/30/05
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"stickyw" <sticky...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry, but I don't understand the popularity of designer handbags, real
> or knock-offs.

Karl Lagerfeld's handbag must be stuffed full of money though, and I'd be
all over that, or at least in it to the wrist.


Big J

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Dec 30, 2005, 6:14:49 PM12/30/05
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"stickyw" <sticky...@aol.com> wrote in news:1135983945.186914.103000
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> Sorry, but I don't understand the popularity of designer handbags, real
> or knock-offs.

I don't either, but Bigolhomo insists on a designer handbag for his "trick
bag" every time he slings up in his Prada and Blahniks and works his corner.

Big J

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Kris Baker

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Dec 30, 2005, 7:19:47 PM12/30/05
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<em...@email.com> wrote in message
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Yup.

I can spot a knock-off Coach, Louis, Dooney or Rolex from far away....and
if your shoes are cheap, I can tell a mile away that it doesn't fit.

Nothing's worse than trying to look like it's real.

Kris
Saw a homeless woman with a damned-good knock-off last weekend


maryanne kehoe

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Dec 30, 2005, 7:44:18 PM12/30/05
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>From: sticky...@aol.com (stickyw)
>Sorry, but I don't understand the popularity of >designer handbags,
real or knock-offs.

"Real" designer handbags last forever. Think of all the handbags you
will buy in your lifetime. Add up the dollar cost. I'd bet it will be a
lot MORE than that $600 LV bag you have your eye on in the store. That
also goes for wallets and shoes. You can pay for quality and have an
item of beauty that lasts. Or pay for crap and the bag looks it after a
month.

Subscriber1997

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Dec 30, 2005, 8:26:39 PM12/30/05
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how attractive ! doomzy doo
>
>


Gregory Morrow

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Dec 30, 2005, 8:33:31 PM12/30/05
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maryanne kehoe wrote:

. That
> also goes for wallets and shoes.


Don't you go to that shoe store where Al Bundy works?

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Greg


Subscriber1997

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Dec 30, 2005, 8:44:09 PM12/30/05
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"Big J" <bi...@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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> "stickyw" <sticky...@aol.com> wrote in news:1135983945.186914.103000
> @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Sorry, but I don't understand the popularity of designer handbags, real
>> or knock-offs.
>
> I don't either, but Bigolhomo insists on a designer handbag for his "trick
> bag" every time he slings up in his Prada and Blahniks and works his
> corner.
>
> Big J
>
> -----
>
===================

who knew there were enough potential
tricks left afflicted with gerontophilia

Subscriber1997

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Dec 30, 2005, 8:44:09 PM12/30/05
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"Big J" <bi...@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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> "stickyw" <sticky...@aol.com> wrote in news:1135983945.186914.103000
> @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Sorry, but I don't understand the popularity of designer handbags, real
>> or knock-offs.
>
> I don't either, but Bigolhomo insists on a designer handbag for his "trick
> bag" every time he slings up in his Prada and Blahniks and works his
> corner.
>
> Big J
>
> -----
>

Bigolhomo

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Dec 30, 2005, 11:30:05 PM12/30/05
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:14:49 -0600, Big J <bi...@myrealbox.com> wrote:

>"stickyw" <sticky...@aol.com> wrote in news:1135983945.186914.103000
>@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Sorry, but I don't understand the popularity of designer handbags, real
>> or knock-offs.
>
>I don't either, but Bigolhomo insists on a designer handbag for his "trick
>bag" every time he slings up in his Prada and Blahniks and works his corner.
>
>Big J
>

Hey, I have to look like I'm worth the $19.95!

--

Bigolhomo

2nz

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Dec 30, 2005, 11:45:09 PM12/30/05
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Kris Baker wrote:

> Saw a homeless woman with a damned-good knock-off last weekend

A friend of mine took a picture of a homeless guy in Espanola, N.M.,
leaning against a wall, waiting for a bar to open. The guy was pretty
dirty, save for a sparkling clean tee shirt that said:
'BERLIN OPERA - AT THE KENNEDY CENTER'.

Big J

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Dec 31, 2005, 12:29:24 AM12/31/05
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Bigolhomo <br...@whatever.com> wrote in
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Hell, looking like that, I'd say you're worth twenty or even twenty two
bucks.

mc

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Dec 31, 2005, 1:17:34 AM12/31/05
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What if I'm just using it cuz I like it (the size is ideal for me). My
husband got an LV knockoff in Hong Kong (I could give a shit if it's
real or not). My mother received a real one and I couldn't tell any
difference--they say it's the label inside. Funny she thought it was
fake til someone told her...now she feels nervous carrying it around!

mc

Bigolhomo

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Dec 31, 2005, 1:57:09 AM12/31/05
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:29:24 -0600, Big J <bi...@myrealbox.com> wrote:

>Bigolhomo <br...@whatever.com> wrote in
>news:q92cr1p1fjpm5vt1m...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:14:49 -0600, Big J <bi...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"stickyw" <sticky...@aol.com> wrote in
>>>news:1135983945.186914.103000 @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> Sorry, but I don't understand the popularity of designer handbags,
>>>> real or knock-offs.
>>>
>>>I don't either, but Bigolhomo insists on a designer handbag for his
>>>"trick bag" every time he slings up in his Prada and Blahniks and works
>>>his corner.
>>>
>>>Big J
>>>
>>
>> Hey, I have to look like I'm worth the $19.95!
>
>Hell, looking like that, I'd say you're worth twenty or even twenty two
>bucks.
>
>Big J
>

Awww, now I feel so pretty, thank you. I might even take that extra
step and wash my butt before I head out to the corner tonight.

--

Bigolhomo

JAH

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Dec 31, 2005, 9:08:31 AM12/31/05
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 19:44:18 -0500, atl...@webtv.net (maryanne kehoe)
wrote:

I rarely use a handbag for more than a year. Too many new styles and
colors come out every year. So paying through the nose for a designer
bag makes no sense to me.

JAH


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stickyw

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Dec 31, 2005, 10:04:23 AM12/31/05
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Most of my handbags look as new as the day I bought them. Ross and
T.J. Maxx have some nice stuff.

RalGrl

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Dec 31, 2005, 10:24:41 AM12/31/05
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That's a good point. However, I have a knock-off LV bag that has
lasted for over two years now and in fact doesn't have one thing going
wrong with it -- no stitches are coming loose. Nothing else is coming
loose. Sure, it's a knock-off. But I wanted an LV bag and I just
didn't have the $800+ it would have cost, so I paid $100 for this one
and I have to admit: I've been happy with it. I expect to get a lot
more use out of it given that it still looks as good as it did the day
I got it.

Margaret Houlihan

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Dec 31, 2005, 12:42:59 PM12/31/05
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"mc" <mcsqu...@netzero.net> wrote in message
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I have a real Coach backpack that I got at the Coach outlet store on sale
(and paid less than $150 for), and maybe a real (and maybe a really good
knockoff) LV hobo purse that I got at a thrift store here in our small town
for $5.

Margaret Houlihan

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Dec 31, 2005, 12:44:16 PM12/31/05
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"JAH" <anothe...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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What's good about the LV purse is that if anything goes wrong or needs
repair or reconditioning, they will fix it for free (according to a friend
of mine who has had a real one for about 15 years).


Kris Baker

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Dec 31, 2005, 1:19:16 PM12/31/05
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"Margaret Houlihan" <mbh...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
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Yup. And they really *don't* go out of style....they go "classic".

I've got a large MCM purse with matching wallet that's nine years
old, looks new, and has outlasted any of the cheaper purses that
my friends by 3-4 times a *year*. Figuring that they spend about
$50 each time, I actually spent less....and it's kind of an
"undercover" thing that I don't see homeless people sporting.
I guess we "functional" people buy things to last, and others
buy things because they like to shop.

Kris
Hates to shop, buys to last


maryanne kehoe

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Dec 31, 2005, 3:56:33 PM12/31/05
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>What's good about the LV purse


I have the belt (30 years-looks like new), the wallet and the large
"Speedy" handbag. I just love 'em!

maryanne kehoe

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Dec 31, 2005, 3:57:42 PM12/31/05
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>I've got a large MCM purse

Kris, I haven't seen those around for *years*-are they still being made
anymore?

Wild Monkshood

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Dec 31, 2005, 4:53:07 PM12/31/05
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JAH wrote:

>
>
> I rarely use a handbag for more than a year. Too many new styles and
> colors come out every year. So paying through the nose for a designer
> bag makes no sense to me.

I don't get some of this stuff. LV Bags are ugly. Rolex watches are
ugly. My $30 Casio has more style. Now, some of the overpriced designer
stuff has nice lines and have appeal, but paying big bucks for something
that is not even aesthetically pleasing, I don't get it.

Wild Monkshood

Bubbles

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Dec 31, 2005, 5:04:20 PM12/31/05
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> I don't get some of this stuff. LV Bags are ugly. Rolex watches are ugly.
> My $30 Casio has more style. Now, some of the overpriced designer stuff
> has nice lines and have appeal, but paying big bucks for something that is
> not even aesthetically pleasing, I don't get it.
> Wild Monkshood

ITA. Must-have designer handbags are usually both ugly and huge. They must
weigh seven or eight pounds when empty. Rolex watches are also ugly and
huge. Rolex's print ads are weird -- women in evening gowns wearing clunky
watches the size of a dinner plate.

Bubbles
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cannot live forever, which is why I would not live forever."
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Dustbunny

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Dec 31, 2005, 7:24:20 PM12/31/05
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:53:07 -0800, Wild Monkshood wrote
(in article <y2Dtf.28745$dZ1....@bignews2.bellsouth.net>):

>
>
> JAH wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I rarely use a handbag for more than a year. Too many new styles and
>> colors come out every year. So paying through the nose for a designer
>> bag makes no sense to me.
>
> I don't get some of this stuff. LV Bags are ugly. Rolex watches are
> ugly. My $30 Casio has more style. Now, some of the overpriced designer
> stuff has nice lines and have appeal, but paying big bucks for something
> that is not even aesthetically pleasing, I don't get it.

I wouldn't say LV bags are ugly, but that LV logo plastered all over 'em is
tacky...it just screams "Look at me! I spent $800 on this purse!" But I hate
logo merchandise in general. I guess it's reverse snobbery : P I like some
expensive bags, but only if they have a discreet logo, or none at all.

Evelyn

Kris Baker

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Dec 31, 2005, 7:39:37 PM12/31/05
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"Dustbunny" <who...@earthlinc.net> wrote in message
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You've taken the tags off your jeans, and the logos off your car? ;)

Kris


Wild Monkshood

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Dec 31, 2005, 8:58:13 PM12/31/05
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When I drove a Mustang, I backed into a tree and made it into a
Musfang. Does that count? But seriously, a car's logo would only compare
to a LV bag if it appeared every 3 inches, or so, on the whole car.

Wild Monkshood
>
> Kris
>
>

Kris Baker

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"Wild Monkshood" <wild_mo...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Kris Baker wrote:
>>
>> You've taken the tags off your jeans, and the logos off your car? ;)
>
> When I drove a Mustang, I backed into a tree and made it into a Musfang.
> Does that count? But seriously, a car's logo would only compare to a LV
> bag if it appeared every 3 inches, or so, on the whole car.
>
> Wild Monkshood

It's just that we can't escape logos.....and they're now pretty much
on the most mundane items. I used to love Dooney & Bourke purses,
until they made a silly logo version. No leather, now canvas.
Kris


quator...@netzero.com

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Jan 1, 2006, 12:50:41 AM1/1/06
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louis vuittons need to be crated for 5 years.
vintage is great, but that pattern has gone full circle and looks
trashy now.
so suburban!
in the uma thurman ads they mix brown bags w/black accessories.
please don't try that in real life, ok?
gucci still looks nice.

Dana

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Jan 1, 2006, 12:53:24 AM1/1/06
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Kris Baker wrote:
>

>
> It's just that we can't escape logos.....and they're now pretty much
> on the most mundane items. I used to love Dooney & Bourke purses,
> until they made a silly logo version. No leather, now canvas.
> Kris

I just bought one. It's the only purse I've ever bought for the logo.

But, DB are my initials so that's the real reason I wanted it.

Silly, but true.

Kris Baker

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"Dana" <dana...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Hey! I'd buy it, too! That's not a bit silly.

Unfortunately, the only KB thing around is a schlocky toy store
(and I think they're out of business now).

Kris


JonesieCat

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"Kris Baker" <kris....@prodigyy.net> wrote in message
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I forgot about D & B. Husb gave me one once. By now it's a very old D & B
bag, a big one, khaki-coloured (or OD green maybe) leather with tan/brown
trim IIRC. Don't use it much, but still like it. It has an oval tan, raised
logo sorta thing on it somewhere I think? Still looks new. Wonder if it'd
sell as a good vintage item on ebay? Not that I'm planning to sell it... I
hate that Gucci bags are mostly fabric nowadays. Just saw an old one in a
vintage shop, and the leather was in fantastic condition, beautiful bag.
Much better than the new ones. Am still thinking of buying it, tho it may be
gone by now.

JC


Kris Baker

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"JonesieCat" <Long Ago & Far Away> wrote in message
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Yup. They're worth the money. I had some *big* D&Bs when I was
working, and gave them all to the thrift store. I kept the small OD
one, which looks like new and it has to be about 15 years old.

But...here's another tip: I think D&B still gives you 50% towards
the purchase of a new bag (direct from the factory) if your old
one gets damaged. Those solid brass, heavy zippers are
pretty much bullet-proof .

Kris


maryanne kehoe

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Jan 2, 2006, 6:59:18 PM1/2/06
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>I hate that Gucci bags are mostly fabric >nowadays.


I saw some new ones that are leather that are quite nice-where are you
looking for them?

JonesieCat

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"Kris Baker" <kris....@prodigyy.net> wrote in message
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Several years ago I gave all my designer bags and shoes I hadn't used in
awhile (except the D & B and a couple of other things) to a committee who
was doing a charitable sale, and I was also helping with the organizing.
When I went in the morning of the event - NONE of my stuff was there. NONE
of it. It had all been "sold" to another committee member the night before.
I was so dumb. She made money off of that stuff herself, turning around and
selling it thru another channel. The committee member who sold it to her had
no idea what the stuff was. I couldn't believe it. And folks who'd wanted to
buy it from me personally, when they found out I was donating all of it -
I'd foolishly told them, no, they had to wait for the official sale day. And
it had all disappeared...

JC (smarter now)


Kris Baker

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"JonesieCat" <Long Ago & Far Away> wrote in message
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It happens all the time; that's why people volunteer at charity events.

I donated my D&Bs to our local thrift shop chain, handed them personally to
the woman who ran the bid section (where they had two *fakes* with high
starting prices)....and explained the differences. My purses never showed
up in the bid section....and I also assume they walked right out the door.

At the same thrift store, which employees handicapped people, I saw one of
the "girls" who I'd got to know and was always friendly, putting books in
the drawers of furniture. I asked her about it, and she said that "there's
a guy who pays me to put <this kind> in there for him".

Like the time the co-manager of the local Salvation Army invited my daughter
and I to the back room, to go through unsorted books. The manager found us
there five minutes later, and chased us out. Not because we were there
unauthorized, but because he had a "deal" with another bookseller who got
first choice of everything. I told him I'd pay a *fair* price....but he
turned me down. I think the manager *was* the bookseller.

People cheat, everywhere.

Kris
Yes, I sell on eBay but I don't swing those kinda deals with *anyone*


JonesieCat

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"Kris Baker" <kris....@prodigyy.net> wrote in message
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The way of the world I guess. I'm reminded of once in a Salvation Army store
here, I was looking at a bit of jewellery, at one little silver ring in
particular. Right under my nose an employee reached over and plucked the
ring away, to keep for herself. Unbelievable. Try to patronize certain
places because it's a *good* thing, but sheesh. I do like wandering around
those stores though - just because... so much life lived in all the items
stocked therein... (Shame about the thieves tho.)

JC


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