Re: Showtime Loses Its Heads Over 'The Tudors'
It's the Principle!
alt.gossip.celebrities:
>
> "He was a modernist in many senses, even more so than he realized.
> He founded the Church of England, which the Queen of England still
> heads today. He introduced divorce into the equation of marriage.
> And in his effort to have a son, he gave us Elizabeth I, a kind of
> founding feminist and one of the most amazing queens the world has
> ever known."
I'm anxious to see if they touch on the subject that he did have a son,
Henry Fitzroy, with one of the ladies of the court, Elizabeth "Bessie"
Blount. If they skip over that, they aren't as true to this portrait
as they claim they want to be. Of course I'm interested because the
Blounts were Shropshire knights who worked in court for centuries, and
are my ancestors. Oh, except for that skanky little niece. ;)
I'll have to wait a long while, though. I don't have premium channels.
--
Brandy Alexandre
The measure of a man's real character is what he would do if he knew he
never would be found out. -- Thomas Babington Macaulay
mystique
"It's the Principle!" <bran...@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote in message
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> edonline <eronlineSPAMOUT!@verizon.net> wrote in
> alt.gossip.celebrities:
>
>>
>> "He was a modernist in many senses, even more so than he realized.
>> He founded the Church of England, which the Queen of England still
>> heads today. He introduced divorce into the equation of marriage.
>> And in his effort to have a son, he gave us Elizabeth I, a kind of
>> founding feminist and one of the most amazing queens the world has
>> ever known."
>
> I'm anxious to see if they touch on the subject that he did have a son,
> Henry Fitzroy, with one of the ladies of the court, Elizabeth "Bessie"
> Blount. If they skip over that, they aren't as true to this portrait
> as they claim they want to be. Of course I'm interested because the
> Blounts were Shropshire knights who worked in court for centuries, and
> are my ancestors. Oh, except for that skanky little niece. ;)
>
> I'll have to wait a long while, though. I don't have premium channels.
No you don't Brandy...Go to sho.com and you can watch somewhat censored
versions of the first two eps. Within the first 10 minutes he's having sex
with your ancestor! She tells someone she's PG in the next 10.
I'm also related to the royal families. I can trace my tree back to 400 AD
and the kings of Scotland. Eleanor of Aquitaine was my 26th
great-grandmother and I descended from the Plantagenet lines. Anne Boleyn
and Catherine Howard (the two wives who "lost their heads" over Harry-they
were cousins) are part of my lineage too....The Queen Mum (current Queen's
mother) who passed away a couple of years ago was my 11th cousin. I worked
on my genealogy line for years when my kids were little and I was a
SAHM...don't have the time with a full time job anymore. --
It's the Principle!
> mystique <myst...@cryptic.ne> wrote in alt.gossip.celebrities:
>
>>
>> "It's the Principle!" <bran...@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote in
>> message news:Xns99058A0C...@64.209.0.92...
>>> edonline <eronlineSPAMOUT!@verizon.net> wrote in
>>> alt.gossip.celebrities:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "He was a modernist in many senses, even more so than he
>>>> realized. He founded the Church of England, which the Queen of
>>>> England still heads today. He introduced divorce into the
>>>> equation of marriage. And in his effort to have a son, he gave
>>>> us Elizabeth I, a kind of founding feminist and one of the most
>>>> amazing queens the world has ever known."
>>>
>>> I'm anxious to see if they touch on the subject that he did have
>>> a son, Henry Fitzroy, with one of the ladies of the court,
>>> Elizabeth "Bessie" Blount. If they skip over that, they aren't
>>> as true to this portrait as they claim they want to be. Of
>>> course I'm interested because the Blounts were Shropshire
knights
>>> who worked in court for centuries, and are my ancestors. Oh,
>>> except for that skanky little niece. ;)
>>>
>>> I'll have to wait a long while, though. I don't have premium
>>> channels.
>>
>> No you don't Brandy...Go to sho.com and you can watch somewhat
>> censored versions of the first two eps. Within the first 10
>> minutes he's having sex with your ancestor! She tells someone
>> she's PG in the next 10.
>
> Oh, wow! Cool! I always have a hard time finding references that
> even mention her. Apparently they burned her portrait and
> everything. I'll save watching it for later, but I'm curious to
see
> how she's cast. The descriptions are that she's a tad headstrong
> and, dare I say, a bit like myself. It's my ancestor's brother's
> kid, but same family I suppose.
>
>>
>> I'm also related to the royal families. I can trace my tree back
>> to 400 AD and the kings of Scotland. Eleanor of Aquitaine was my
>> 26th great-grandmother and I descended from the Plantagenet
lines.
>> Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard (the two wives who "lost their
>> heads" over Harry-they were cousins) are part of my lineage
>> too....The Queen Mum (current Queen's mother) who passed away a
>> couple of years ago was my 11th cousin. I worked on my genealogy
>> line for years when my kids were little and I was a SAHM...don't
>> have the time with a full time job anymore. --
>
> I'm in the Plantagenet line, too. William the Marshall, my
> ancestor, kept Eleanor company when she was in exile. I've got my
> line down going back to Childeric. I've run across some terrific
> stories. I had great fun watching the Barbarians series on
History
> Channel because those are my people. :)
>
>
I just got too interested I had to follow up my own post. This
tickles me, out of a book on Henvry VIII by Hackett:
"But luckily for the Blounts the ways of the courtier could be
learnt by men and women of good family. Bessie Blount's portrait
has not been kept, nor has one word of hers passed into history, but
to judge by her family she was not the blonde of soft old gold but
the Norman-English red gold limned with a brush dipped in sunlight.
In ten years she was to be a statuesque matron, but now she was
molten marble glowing with invitation. She had in her voice the
throstle note of the English countryside. She danced and sang "most
excellently" in all court masques and mummeries, and one may imagine
that she loved Henry before he ever saw her, that she fell when he
sued her with the soft silence of a petal. Had she bourne no child
to Henry, this maid-in-waiting would have left no imprint on the
swept sands of history. But she was not destroyed by him. She had
the peasant standard of her time and class. The lovely girl of the
sixteenth century trusted not in men's "honor" and never talked of
being "ruined." At nineteen Bessie Blount was sent to a priory
where her child was born, fortunately of the right sex...."
mystique
FYI, the actress playing her on the show is a beautiful golden-blonde
though.
> In ten years she was to be a statuesque matron, but now she was
> molten marble glowing with invitation. She had in her voice the
> throstle note of the English countryside. She danced and sang "most
> excellently" in all court masques and mummeries, and one may imagine
> that she loved Henry before he ever saw her, that she fell when he
> sued her with the soft silence of a petal. Had she bourne no child
> to Henry, this maid-in-waiting would have left no imprint on the
> swept sands of history. But she was not destroyed by him. She had
> the peasant standard of her time and class. The lovely girl of the
> sixteenth century trusted not in men's "honor" and never talked of
> being "ruined." At nineteen Bessie Blount was sent to a priory
> where her child was born, fortunately of the right sex...."
>
Tragically, her son died of consumption at the age of 17.
I just went and looked at my family tree that around Henry's time, I had a
14 G grandmother named Elizabeth Cheney whose granddaughter Anne married a
Thomas Fiennes. Personally, I'm ok with having the fine Fiennes brothers as
relatives, but if a certain vice-prez is in my line...AGGGH!
Messalina
<brandy...@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote:
> edonline <eronlineSPAMO...@verizon.net> wrote in
Heh. "Fitzroy." "Fitz" was commonly added to the surnames of the
illegitimate in those days. "Roy" or "roi" means "king" in French.
Mez
Roofshadow
"Messalina" <destruc...@gmail.com> wrote:
And I assume it's going to be part of the plot since they showed us Lady
Blount sleeping with the king and later figuring out she's pregnant.
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Roofshadow
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