Bush's father is also a moron
Tom Potter
Tue Nov 21, 2:23 PM ET
"Bush said he was surprised by the audience's criticism of his son..
How come everybody wants to come to the United States if the United States
is so bad?"
As can be seen, Bush the Elder is too dumb to comprehend
(Or is a con man trying to create a strawman.)
that most of the people in the world,
and most of the people in America,
don't think that the United States is bad.
They think that George Bush is bad.
The peoples of the world LOVE the United States
of Boeing, Motorola, Hewlett-Packard, IBM, MIcrosoft,
Texas Instruments, General Motors, Ford, P&G, etc.
but they HATE George Bush,
for what he has done to America and the World.
Before Bush appeared on the scene
and began stirring the pot,
(In an obvious effort to instigate an act of terrorism
that he could use as an excuse to steal Iraq's oil.)
the Middle East was safer than Washington, DC,
and almost all of the peoples on the Earth,
trusted, respected, admired, emulated, and even loved
Americans and Americans.
In less than two years, Bush destroyed all the good will
that it took American companies like IBM, Microsoft, Coca Cola,
McDonalds, Intel, Boeing, Motorola, Texas Instruments, Kodak, etc.
decades to build.
If Bush had not sold out to the War-for-Profit gang
there would have been no 9/11,
no movement of America toward a police and military state,
no loss of freedoms to Americans,
no danger to Americans at home and abroad,
no shattering of the national budget,
no war against the Iraqi people,
with its' attendant cost, depletion of
non-renewable resources, environmental damage, etc,
no loss of trust by most nations of the world,
no hatred of America by hundreds of millions of Muslims,
no raid on Social Security,
no freeze of Civil Service employees salaries,
no bankruptcy of major airlines,
no dollar flight,
no meltdown of the dollar,
no weakening of the United Nations,
no weakening of NATO, the G8,
no independent European GPS system,
no movement of money, power and prestige away from America,
no loss of trillion dollar markets by American firms, etc.
As Philip, Alexander the Great's father said:
"No city walls are so strong
that they cannot be breeched
if you can get a donkey load of gold
up to the city gates."
As can be seen by their works,
the Bush family gets fat and rich
while hundreds of thousands are killed and maimed
because of their arrogance and greed.
Come to think of it,
maybe American citizens are the "morons"
for putting up with this shit.
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Ronald 'More-More' Moshki
The Bushes are only are part of the Global Corporatists who have
manufactured this
"New World Order."
their greed for $ trumps everything. Their families coud be murdered
and policy would not be changed. Green is much thicker than red.
@dnc.org Democrat Military Draft Scheme
holiday today .
c-bee1
"Democrat Military Draft Scheme" <RatDraft @dnc.org> wrote in message
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> Awwwww. lookie, the little kiddies are out of school for Thanksgiving
> holiday today .
lol Run away!
Tom Potter
Democrat Military Draft Scheme wrote:
> Awwwww. lookie, the little kiddies are out of school for Thanksgiving
> holiday today .
As my Pappy used to say,
"You get better information
from the horse's mouth,
than you do from a horse's ass."
As can be determined from the smell of his post,
this new, anonymous poster
"Democrat Military Draft Scheme"
is a horse's ass.
and as can be seen
from my web sites and photos, and numerous Usenet posts,
I am a 73 year old, X-REPUBLICAN
who supported the Republican Party for
many years, and was invited to the White House
by Reagan and Bush the Elder,
and as can be seen from my posts in 2000,
2001, 2002, etc. I recognized right away
that I, the Republican party and America
had made an ENORMOUS mistake.
Bush, like most of the present crop
of politicians at the federal level
have sold out to the Jewish Lobby.
It was clear to me,
that as soon as Bush got into office,
when he was not on vacation,
he was cozying up to Sharon,
badmouthing Muslim nations,
and the oppressed Palestinians,
trivializing the South African Racism Conference
which was trying to solve the Palestinian problem,
dismantling America's protection against terrorism, etc.
in an effort to instigate an act of terrorism
that he could use as an excuse to invade Iraq
and steal their oil for his friends, family and supporters.
As Philip, Alexander the Great's father said:
"No city walls are so strong
that they cannot be breeched
if you can get a donkey load of gold
up to the city gates."
The Jewish Lobby buys a few American politicians
for a few million dollars,
and gets back trillions of dollars in benefits,
and is able use these crooked politicians
to force American Blacks, Latinos and Rednecks
to sacrifice their lives and limbs to advance the
cause of Israel and the Jewish Lobby.
Hopefully, after Bush is out of office,
he, Cheny, Rumsfeld, Bolton, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith,
Rob Loewenberg, David Wurmser and Meyrav Wurmser and the other
Neocons will be tried for their war crimes,
and hopefully American voters will begin to
replace the present gang of crooks
who have sold America out to the Jewish Lobby,
with politicians who will put America FIRST.
ellis_jay
> from my web sites and photos, and numerous Usenet posts,
> I am a 73 year old, X-REPUBLICAN
> who supported the Republican Party for
> many years, and was invited to the White House
> by Reagan and Bush the Elder,
>
> and as can be seen from my posts in 2000,
> 2001, 2002, etc. I recognized right away
> that I, the Republican party and America
> had made an ENORMOUS mistake.
> http://tom-potter.blogspot.com
Nice snapshots.
--
Let the unseen day be. Today is more than enough.
___Sador the carpenter to Turin
Tolkien, The Unfinished Tales
Ellis_Jay
Courtney
> Tom Potter wrote:
>
>
> > from my web sites and photos, and numerous Usenet posts,
> > I am a 73 year old, X-REPUBLICAN
> > who supported the Republican Party for
> > many years, and was invited to the White House
> > by Reagan and Bush the Elder,
> >
> > and as can be seen from my posts in 2000,
> > 2001, 2002, etc. I recognized right away
> > that I, the Republican party and America
> > had made an ENORMOUS mistake.
>
mind Mr. Potter!
And most importantly you are not afraid to use your 'excellent mind' to
think for yourself. I really appreciate that the most!!!
Kyle
Morton Davis
"Courtney" <Cour...@findmemail.com> wrote in message
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> ellis_jay wrote:
> > Tom Potter wrote:
> >
> >
> > > from my web sites and photos, and numerous Usenet posts,
> > > I am a 73 year old, X-REPUBLICAN
> > > who supported the Republican Party for
> > > many years, and was invited to the White House
> > > by Reagan and Bush the Elder,
> > >
> > > and as can be seen from my posts in 2000,
> > > 2001, 2002, etc. I recognized right away
> > > that I, the Republican party and America
> > > had made an ENORMOUS mistake.
> >
> I can genuinely appreciate a man who THINKS! You have an excellent
> mind Mr. Potter!
>
>
brain.
Sid9
"Morton Davis" <anti...@go.com> wrote in message
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Patriotic Republicans
with a brain are
fleeing bush,jr's
sinking ship.
roger
"Sid9" <si...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Yeah, both of them.
Robert Chin
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>
> The both of you would need several million years of evolution to achieve a
> brain.
You need several bars of antibacterial, disinfectant soap, a few gallons of
de-licing medicine, and a lot of dental work to achieve hygiene. After all
of that, it still would not be much better to be you, Moron (<- correct
spelling of your name).
AKA
"Morton Davis" <anti...@go.com> wrote in message
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>
And you are still waiting and hoping yours is in the mail. Sorry Morton, no
mail today.
Morton Davis
"roger" <ro...@hallmarke.net> wrote in message
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What "sinking ship"? "Patriotic Democrat" a true paradox.
PorchMonkey4Life
tdp...@gmail.com
Well George Bush is not all bad.
You have to give him credit for
a lot of things, including:
getting Iran and Iraq to become friends,
getting the Latin American nations to unite,
boosting the power and prestige of Russia and China,
deflating the Dollar so American industry can sell more,
boosting the arms industry,
getting Americans interested in energy conservation,
warming up the planet,
helping with the over-population problem,
getting the Europeans to build the Galileo system,
getting nations to educate their smartest students,
focusing attention on the control Jews have on American policy,
rather than sending them to American schools,
etc.
And of course, Bush has been the most successful
person since Mohammed in uniting Muslims.
Now, if only Bush can figure out how to
detach Israel from the American taxpayer's tit,
he'll go down in history as a great man.
Courtney
> One of my favorite actresses, Debra Winger is in it. This movie
> reveals former President Clinton's true colors. Well that and his
> recent buddy-buddy relationship with former President Bush. My Mother
> was right all along.
Bambi wrote:
> One of my favorite actresses, Debra Winger is in it. This movie
> reveals former President Clinton's true colors. Well that and his
> recent buddy-buddy relationship with former President Bush. My Mother
> was right all along.
Don't you just hate that? I mean that and pesky little flies that
refuse to go the hell away not matter how many times you kill them;
they pop right back up! Crazy. I don't know which is more annoying.
But since you mentioned all this I must ask. What does your wise
Mother think of our President Bush? Sorry but I just had to ask this. ;
Sojourner Truth
>
> I liked what I saw of DEM Kerry on Larry King Live the other day. Kerry
> had some very valid points! I agree with that man's truths, big
> time. According to Kerry, most Americans are not concerned as much
> with this war as they are with the multiple problems that plague their
> own lives. I feel him on this score. I think the man was right on
> target. Kerry said most Americans are more concerned with the issues
> which plague our daily lives, like healthcare, like living
> paycheck-to-paycheck, like unemployment in their communities, etc. (add
> to these troubles relatives dying in Iraq, terrible!)
>
That has got to be awful. Going through all the normal daily trouble
you have to endure in life and on top of that your loved ones are dying
in Iraq. Just awful.
But yes, we have enough problems here in America for the media to focus
on. If the media wants to 'play the nut role' fine. I d o not
mind outlining a few facts for them. Actually, it will be my pleasure.
Didn't Cooper Anderson say he especially LOVE facts. Terrific.
Below are plenty!!!
The homeless are 87% of the time in a constant state of starvation.
The homeless shower less than once a month!
Who are the homeless: Statistics reveal that 72% of the homeless are
women! (I'm just guessing here but I am sure this number must entail
some children, since women have children)
A homeless person eats once every 17 hours! Imagine that!
In impoverished communities the unemployment rates are over 27%. Do
you realize that this figure is well ABOVE our national average?
And, 70% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck.
Oh and last year alone, the homeless increased by a whopping 50%.
Now, you tell me that people are more concerned about the war in Iraq
than the real issues and problems they face each and every grave day
here on American soil?
But like Court said, don't take my word for it. Do some research and
you will find the truth for yourself.
As they use to say, it (truth) will set you free. Every time, each and
every time.
Bambi
>
> But since you mentioned all this I must ask. What does your wise
> Mother think of our President Bush? Sorry but I just had to ask this. ;
Sorry, I didn't see your question until just now. I am working on
getting a better server. This periodic lock-out is getting beyond
annoying. Usually I am not able to get on board until late in the
night. I do not have the kind of job that I can post during the day. I
have the kind of job that you come in the door running, you cannot
believe that it is after three o'clock in the afternoon and you are
completely exhausted when you get home. When you go on vacation, if
you are lucky to go on a vacation, you are so tired that you don't
realize you are vacation until the day prior to returning to work.
Normally, on my way home my parents both have lists of items I am to
pick up for them. Both my parents are Cancers (overprotective,
intuitive, moody and too clingy toward people and things they love) and
I am Pisces (also clingy, intuitive, moody) yet since we are all water
signs we understand each other probably more than most families who are
not as harmoniously linked. Here is an easy to understand book I
recommend to all my friends and family members (if they can figure this
all out, anyone can!)
http://www.amazon.com/Only-Astrology-Book-Youll-Cd-rom/dp/1589793102/sr=8-1/qid=1165531527/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-2281030-6187654?ie=UTF8&s=books.
But we have our separate domains so when we have to we know to retreat
to our separate areas to recharge. I am into astrology but more than
just on the surface level. If anyone is interested, they can do their
own chart and you would be surprised how much of this stuff is relevant
to whom you really are as a person. It is really very funny how if
there is a sad movie on that we all three are watching together, we are
in sync emotionally. But like I said, we have our limits and know when
to make use of them.
But it is rare that I am able to go on newsgroups during working hours
except for around this time of day when things quiet down.
I am assuming you were asking to see if my mother had any predictions
about our current government. Well, as you know she does not follow
"any" politician blindly whether or not he or she is democrat. She
makes up her own mind about a candidate. I probably got this
independent thinking style from her. So, she does not like republicans
but I have seen her agree with some of them from time to time. During
Bush's first run for the presidency he was constantly seen with his
brother, Jeb Bush I think is his name. My mother once said,
"Goodness, those men have such extraordinarily large heads!" At
the time she was watching them on the news. I walked over from the
kitchen to see the TV. I didn't see anything unusual so I said,
"Mom what are you talking about?" She said, "Look at their
heads. Don't you see it? Those two Bush brothers have gigantic
heads! When I was little growing up we called them water-head babies.
But usually the kids grew out of this trait by the time they became
adults. But these men didn't (she shook her head staring at the
television and sucking her teeth) ....That is so strange."
I didn't mean to but I died laughing, saying, "Mom, what do you
mean?" She got angry with me then. "Nothing. Nothing at all."
I could tell that I laughed too prematurely. I thought she was joking,
and but she wasn't; she was dead serious. Then I said with as much
seriousness as I could muster, "I'm sorry Mom. Tell me more about
what you meant here because I honestly don't know what you are
talking about." But it was too late, she was too angry. "No never
mind, just forget it. You wouldn't understand no how!" This time
I really am laughing. I mean, not to brag but I hold two Masters:
English and Psychology not to mention that I have traveled abroad twice
when I was in my 20's and 30's. I told everyone earlier how far my
mother went in education and she has maybe visited three cities tops in
America. Yet here she was telling me that I wouldn't understand. I
went upstairs though to continue my giggling, away from her ears.
She has a take on the current situation too. My mother doesn't miss
a beat. She thinks Saddam Hussein was 'the glue' that was holding
all those various sectarian groups together (she put it another way,
but I rephrased it in politically correct terms) and that "...they
must didn't know it in Washington but when they took down that man
and his family (I'm assuming she means his sons, etc.) they opened up
the flood gates!" (I am again, rephrasing here). Then she added,
"I bet those wise guys in the middle-east knew it though. They
probably tricked them into doing just that! And, they (Washington) fell
for it to boot. Those guys (middle-east) must be smarter than
Washington and Europe combined!" I just stared at her in amazement on
this day. She said this maybe like a year after they had Saddam in
prison.
Guess what she said about the welfare dismantling? She said, "Humph,
they thought that poor folk were abusing the welfare system. Little
did they know that it wasn't poor folks getting rich off 'a
something that don't last them past the day they get it. No! Know
who was getting rich from America's welfare program? I'll tell ya
who. It was all those doctors, pharmacies, social service agencies,
dentists, etc. Those were the people that was bleeding the welfare
system. Did you notice how when they dismantled it (welfare) the
middle-class in America took such a dramatic nose-dive? Well, that's
why!" Again, I just stared at her in amazement.
Mind you, I don't get to catch much news with my schedule but living
with her, I don't have to. I get her take on it almost every
evening. I look more forward to her daily news than I do CBS, NBC,
ABC, Gretta, Cooper or any of them! ;--->
Cornhuskeress
Oh goody. A chyck troll named after a cartoon deer who believes in
horoscopes.
So, chyck-troll, who do you like in the Florida v. tOSU game, and why?
Geri
Courtney
> Mind you, I don't get to catch much news with my schedule but living
> with her, I don't have to. I get her take on it almost every
> evening. I look more forward to her daily news than I do CBS, NBC,
> ABC, Gretta, Cooper or any of them! ;--->
LOL. You two sound a lot like me and my Dad when I was growing up. I
was my Dad's shadow. Like most little girls, I'm sure but I was
your classic-case of the 'proverbial daddy's girl.' I held on to
each and every word he said. I can remember when I was really little
just watching him sleep. I would rub his cheek and listen and watch
his rhythmic breathing. Even in sleep I found him wonderful. I was
totally and immensely into my daddy worship. I was convinced that he
was God personified. My father was not religious at all so I don't
know where I got that from. Yet, no one or no thing could convince me
otherwise. Maybe you grew up in a loving family but I don't think I
would be here today if it were not for my little brothers because I
know for certain that the older ones plotted my demise daily. One
would think I would be more than use to men wanting my head served up
on a silver platter. If it was not for the two younger boys, I would
not be typing this today.
But my Dad loved current events. My Dad's favorite expression is,
"Words are my stock and trade." That is so peculiar for a man with
little education. But the man is very smart. Most of the issues
during the time frame when I was growing up were the Watergate scandal,
Iran Contra Scandal, Iran Hostage Crisis, etc. My Dad is also a Cancer
(I love you Mr. Bill Cosby) which I found out thanks to you. I know, I
think too deeply about everything, call it a curse. Bamma (what her
family and friends nick her) taught me that it was because I am a virgo
(9/11) that I am so crazy with details. After all these years who knew
I could learn something so significant. I bought her book several
months ago and I have been doing everyone around me ever since. That
is how I found out my Dad, is a Cancer. Like you said earlier, they can
intuit stuff without having any validated proof like his prematurely
held beliefs regarding television. I read in another astrology book
that I picked up that these men (Cancers) make the very best Dads
(family men). I am obviously biased here in my agreement. My husband
is a Taurus and I think a very good Dad and husband also.
Now picture this: A grown man with little education and a very small
girl sitting at the kitchen table discussing the above events as they
took place in American history. My Dad would actually discuss these
things with me and I would answer back with my opinions and we would
sit like this for hours. I remember this like it was yesterday too.
Funny how some things you remember perfectly and other the things you
have no recollection of at all.
avery
Like most little girls, I'm sure but I was
> your classic-case of the 'proverbial daddy's girl.' I held on to
> each and every word he said. I can remember when I was really little
> just watching him sleep. I would rub his cheek and listen and watch
> his rhythmic breathing. Even in sleep I found him wonderful. I was
> totally and immensely into my daddy worship. I was convinced that he
> was God personified.
I can't figure out whether you have doggerel down to a science or an art
form, but it's simultaneously admirable, reprehensible, obscene and
wonderful at the same time.
Courtney
While my brothers hated having to turn off the television as soon as my
Dad came home secretly I didn't mind it so much. I pretended to be
angry just to play it off in front of my brothers. But deep inside I
was glad because I knew it was time to read the newspaper, book or
whatever it was we were engaged in reading as a group at the time.
That is what my Dad would make us do. We sat around the kitchen table
and passed it around to each other, reading aloud a few paragraphs and
then passing it on to the person sitting next to us. Nine times out
of ten, my brothers would not know the word and my Dad would say,
"No, no! That's not right. Courtney, tell them what the word
is." And as the book or newspaper made its rounds past two or three
pairs of hands I would sit there praying to myself. I would pray,
"Please don't know the word. Please don't know the word."
Isn't that sad? As luck would have it, I knew the word. It never
dawned on me to lie. I don't think lying enters any child's mind
that is in a reasonably loving environment. So it never even entered
my mind to just lie about it. Maybe too I was afraid that my Dad would
know I was fibbing since he knew me so well.
I prayed to not know a word because I knew it would just give my
brothers more ammunition to use against me. Somehow, someway I knew my
brothers #2 and #3 (I was #4) would find a way to get revenge against
me since they usually did.
Number 5 always had my back as did number 6. Number 7 was too little
to do anything much less know anything. Whenever we would argue and #2
and #3 would call me names, I could always count on #5 and #6. On a
rare occasion, all four (#2, #3, #5 and #6) would team up against me
too. But this was almost never.
I was called so many names I can't even type them all here. Let's
see, I was called, Your Imminence, Dad's Secret Shadow, Little Ms.
Holier-than Thou, (Dad was Mr. H....), Ms. Know-It-All,
Smarty-pants...the list goes on and on. The little ones would speak up
for me when I got tired. "You're just jealous because Court reads
like Dad tells us and doesn't sneak off to watch TV. That's
all." It didn't matter how they defended me, #2 and #3 were always
way ahead of everyone in the house. These two were such nightmares
that everyone said their name in union as though it was one name,
teachers, neighbors, everybody.
I came home one day to find all of my doll's heads, legs and arms
torn off and no where to be found. Once the dolls were replaced, I
came home another day to find all the hair was cut off of each doll. I
had wads of gum strategically placed in my hair once while I slept. (I
don't have to tell any Black woman out there how difficult this phase
was for me. My hair does not grow fast. I endured this agony for
almost a year). What else? Oh, remember that doll with the beating
heart? One of these morons cut into the doll's chest and removed her
heart. I cried all night over this one.
Remember paper dolls? I had boxes and boxes of paper dolls. Kids have
no idea what they are missing today. What an excellent way to build a
child's imagination. I had uncolored ones that I colored very neatly
and carefully. I had the colored ones that you didn't have to color.
I had so many various outfits that I eventually got the idea to gather
them all up into boxes. I decorated the boxes and properly labeled
them. Now I know why I did this. The Virgo monster was alive and
kicking in me even back then. Well, #2 and #3 cut up each and every
one of my paper dolls' clothes and stomped on and tore up all the
nicely decorated boxes also. I could not believe any human could be so
cruel.
I was an advent reader. I read everything from comic books, to the
funny pages when our Sunday paper came to the backs of the cereal boxes
while I munched away on my cereal. I was a big collector of the Archie
comic books. Remember those? Jughead, Archie, Veronica, Betty, etc.
I had so many of these I couldn't even count them. Again, I stored
them in multiple boxes. They are lucky I am not materialistic because
most of those comics would be collector items today since I began
collecting them at like age six or seven. Anyway, I came home to find
them all cut up into tiny little pieces. Well, what remained of what
once was comic book; most of the comic books were nowhere to be found.
Most just miraculously disappeared. That is why I would sit and wait
for my Dad to get home. Because my Mom's response to everything was,
"Wait 'til your father comes home." This irked me so much!. I
was like that cartoon with a big swollen face, beet red with steam
pouring out of the top of my head. I wanted her to fling their sick
butts far away into another universe. What on earth were we waiting
for? I didn't understand this.
So, I would watch the clock and I would be right there to greet him as
soon as he came home, with another story about the recent horror which
became my daily existence. Eventually, they even wore down my poor
Dad. I could see in his eyes some days that he was having difficulty
keeping a straight face. Even he was amazed by the resilience of these
fools. They were determined to make me suffer. They knew the man was
going to whip the living daylights out of them and they didn't even
care. My Dad became smarter and started making up outrageous
punishments instead. This did not deter them one iota either. They
kept up their war. Eventually I became very impressed. How could I not?
I was drawn to power so even though it was done sinisterly I was
intrigued by the depth of their ingenuity. My parents thought that
these boys were bad as hell. I personally felt they were geniuses.
Both of them were so crafted in making me pay and both of them were
left-handed so I knew it was something to them but I just didn't know
precisely what. Too bad my parents were not smart enough to encourage
them further in school as they did me. The eldest son, got an
after-school job (probably to get away from Dad's daily school
assignments) so he usually didn't get home until late. He usually
missed all the action but #2 and #3 were more than happy to fill him in
whenever they could. He never really participated he would just nod
his head and smile with the goofiest face I ever saw. I hated those
three but secretly I really admired them and just wanted them to love
me and stop bothering me. I must have been dreaming because this never
happened.
I would wave my hand at them screaming names at them. Names of all
kinds which I must say were a lot more creative then the many names
they had for me. But after awhile I just screamed at them and called
them #2's (but worded differently) and they could see the sheer anger
in my eyes. Sometimes they would scream, "Watch out! She's
casting a spell." And then they would ball up on the floor in
laughter. It felt like God was playing some crazy-mean trick on me. I
could not wait until I was old enough to get away from them. I counted
the days, weeks, months, and years. I probably had the longest
childhood in history.
My Dad appreciated the fact that he had a smart kid and he knew I was a
smart little girl because another smart lady clued him into this fact.
My Dad lost his mother when he was like thirteen-years-old and since my
grandfather had passed away when my Dad was barely two-year-old his
mother (my grandmother) later remarried another man. This step-father
was not a happy camper, to put it mildly. He was very unkind to my
Dad. My Dad's older sister was already married being several years
my Dad's senior. If it were not for her taking my Dad into her home
on many a day I don't know what would have become of my Dad. So my
Aunt Mae mothered my Dad until he was seventeen or eighteen and able to
join the service and make a way for himself.
But Aunt Mae was brilliant. My Dad and his family originally grew up
in the south. Like most African Americans during his era he migrated
up north like thousands at the time in a vain attempt to escape the
extreme racism in the south. That is how my siblings and I ended up
being born in upstate New York. Five of the kids were born in New York
and the first three (3) boys were each born in different states, Ohio,
Maryland and some other state that I can't remember now. When I was
old enough to notice this, I asked my Dad why. He said, "I was
trying to find a place that wasn't racist. It finally dawned on me
that there was no such place in America so I settled down here in
Rochester." I was still too young though at the time to totally
understand what he meant.
But my Aunt Mae was apparently extremely smart and gifted. The story
goes that all of the white folk in her school district conspired
together to give Aunt Mae the very best advantage possible. They had
it all set-up for her to attend these astonishing schools to further
her education. Aunt Mae didn't want to do it. She held firm that
this was not what she wanted to do. My Dad said the white folks begged
and pleaded with their parents however in the end, Aunt Mae won. She
married her childhood sweetheart instead and lead a very ordinary and
poor lifestyle working menial jobs, etc. until the day she died which
was a few years ago when she was in her 80's. Aunt Mae and I look
nothing alike but I guess since she was so smart and my Dad worshipped
her, he maybe saw in me, his big sister. My Dad will tell this story
as many times as he possibly can even to this day. Anything at all can
prompt the story-telling. The name Mae, the month of May, the word
may...used in a sentence, anything. He adored his sister. The
strangest thing is that Aunt Mae could not have any children. She and
her husband thought they were sterile. For ten long years they had no
children. Then, snap, tenth year into the marriage they had five boys
back to back, like stairs. I think girls are a hard commodity in our
family lineage. But then I thought about this one day and realized
that if Aunt Mae had had any children at the time she would not
possibly have been able to mother my Dad because her hands would have
been too full with her own children
I think so deeply that I thought about what my siblings and my life
would have been like had Dad's early conditioning not been lovingly
intervened by his big sister's help. I analyzed since my Dad
experienced a nasty man growing up, my Dad could not be this man to his
children and because my Dad had had a smart, older sister who loved and
mothered him he was then able to love his smart daughter. I know, I
think too deeply like most Virgos.
We did not have cousins because by the time we came along, Aunt Mae's
kids were in their 20's and besides we lived so very far that even
had we wanted to be close to them we could not. Once when Aunt Mae
visited, our school was having a candy drive. Aunt Mae bought a lot of
it to take back home with her. Number 2 and number 3 snuck into her
room and stole all the candy she paid them for. The look on my
Aunt's face was priceless. Even she could not believe how
unbelievable these boys were. I bet she remembered this trip for a
long time after she got home. Of course, they got whippings big time
but it hardly stopped them for more than a day, two tops. Actually,
they seemed to get recharged from them which my Dad figured out and is
why he switched strategy.
Sojourner Truth
> Normally, on my way home my parents both have lists of items I am to
> pick up for them. Both my parents are Cancers (overprotective,
> intuitive, moody and too clingy toward people and things they love) and
> I am Pisces (also clingy, intuitive, moody) yet since we are all water
> signs we understand each other probably more than most families who are
> not as harmoniously linked. Here is an easy to understand book I
> recommend to all my friends and family members (if they can figure this
> all out, anyone can!)
> This is a very good book everyone. Like Court said, who knew you could learn something so substantial
about yourself after so many, many years. I am an Aries (3/29) and
although I knew myself fairly well, reading this book helped explained
things on deeper/broader levels. I pray to never assume I am so darn
smart that I cannot take a guide that is thrown my direction.
>
> She has a take on the current situation too. My mother doesn't miss
> a beat. She thinks Saddam Hussein was 'the glue' that was holding
> all those various sectarian groups together (she put it another way,
> but I rephrased it in politically correct terms) and that "...they
I would like to share my tiny bit of insight into this situation. I do
not mind 'serving' my country so long as this does not interfere
with my own life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Sorry but everyone
has his or her limits and this primarily is mine.
The men your Mom was referring to (Washington, Europe, middle-east) are
not very smart at all. They do one stupid thing and perform yet
another stupid thing. I watch as little of television as humanly
possible. I probably would not even turn mine on if it were not to
check the daily weather forecast. Because I have long since concluded
that TPTB are far more arrogant than anything else but again, this is
merely one person's opinion. When a person is in an
arrogant-state-of-mind one is not open to anyone or anything, except
his or her own stupidity. Why park myself in front of 'that' for
hours and hours and then turn around and call myself reasonably sane,
intelligent and cognizant? No thank you.
But when I do feel like letting my mind 'take leave of absence'
which thankfully is not often, I do watch. What is the most
astonishing is how they keep saying that they just do not understand
how or why the people in the middle-east are not following true Islam.
Can you believe these people because I most certainly do not even on my
mindless days.
So what, American citizens are being true followers of Christianity by
funding the upkeep of institutional slavery, inadequate public
education and strict integration policies (as it currently exists in
Chicago by being the 3rd most segregated in the U.S.). Are these
people for real?
But the answer to your question is no, absolutely not. Just like you
phony, grinning Caucasians are not following true Christianity by your
sinister practices here in the good ol' U.S. neither are the various
sectarian groups. Muhammad did not teach the severe subjugation of
women nor any of the other _culturally based_ practices which are
vehemently held into place century after century. These are culturally
based just like racism is culturally based and is not true
Christianity. Hadith, which is the pure teachings of Prophet Muhammad
did not teach mass slaughter of your fellow man nor did it teach
humiliation of the femalehttp://www.carm.org/islam/hadith.htm. These
practices, again, are culturally based not religion. When you are a
true follower of the DEEN (knowledge of Islamic religion or teachings
of the Koran) you must meet or maintain certain standards before you
can proclaim yourself a Hadith (true follower of the Al-Quran (Koran).
So while the various sectarian groups 'intentions' are good (just
like you so-called Christianity followers claim) the motives are wrong,
wrong, wrong and is NOT the true teachings of the religion itself.
In other words, a true Muslim is one who is well versed in the Deen
(religion) which gives you, the follower, a much better understanding.
http://www.answers.com/topic/deen-arabic-term
The various sectarian groups are being unIslamic which in Islam is
termed 'Haram'. http://news.indiainfo.com/2003/06/09/09iran.html
http://www.dawn.com/2006/03/26/local17.htm
Just like the biased practices in this country against minority groups
(specifically Blacks) and women is unchristian since Jesus did not
teach any of these unchristian practices, instead the suppression of
women (sexism) and minorities (racism) is merely culturally based.
> Guess what she said about the welfare dismantling? She said, "Humph,
> they thought that poor folk were abusing the welfare system. Little
> did they know that it wasn't poor folks getting rich off 'a
> something that don't last them past the day they get it. No! Know
> who was getting rich from America's welfare program? I'll tell ya
Your Mom sounds like a very wise much older lady. She would have most
certainly set the world on fire if she had higher education.
My Mama is probably a little older than yours and she does not like to
watch much television since she grew up prior to its invention. She
gets most of her news from the many talk-radio stations she loves
listening to on a daily and nightly basis. And, she also loves staying
current on events but like most intelligent people even after she has
heard it all (or rather, what they want you to know\hear) she still has
the courage and wisdom to make up her own mind. I undoubtedly got this
from her too.
"All nature cries aloud, Shall man do less
Than heal the smiter, and the railer bless?"
(HAFIZ, A MAHOMEDAN)
(FYI: Hafiz: A title given to those who had memorized the Koran by
heart.)
Even after all this time the sun never says to the earth, "You owe me."
-HAFIZ
"It is only in the company of Beauty and Acceptance that we find the
courage to face the truth."
-HAFIZ
"Seek him who turns thee out, and pardon him who injures thee."
(KORAN)
Syd
> Bambi wrote:
>
> > Normally, on my way home my parents both have lists of items I am to
> > pick up for them. Both my parents are Cancers (overprotective,
> > intuitive, moody and too clingy toward people and things they love) and
> > I am Pisces (also clingy, intuitive, moody) yet since we are all water
> > signs we understand each other probably more than most families who are
> > not as harmoniously linked. Here is an easy to understand book I
> > recommend to all my friends and family members (if they can figure this
> > all out, anyone can!)
>
> > http://www.amazon.com/Only-Astrology-Book-Youll-Cd-rom/dp/1589793102/sr=8-1/qid=1165531527/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-2281030-6187654?ie=UTF8&s=books.
Don't look at me to tell you guys what sign I am. No way is that going
to happen. ;
>
> I would like to share my tiny bit of insight into this situation. I do
> not mind 'serving' my country so long as this does not interfere
> with my own life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Sorry but everyone
> has his or her limits and this primarily is mine.
>
Not all of have the gusto for killing so we help where and however we
can which is what you did. Who can fault you here?
>
> But when I do feel like letting my mind 'take leave of absence'
> which thankfully is not often, I do watch. What is the most
> astonishing is how they keep saying that they just do not understand
> how or why the people in the middle-east are not following true Islam.
> Can you believe these people because I most certainly do not even on my
> mindless days.
>
Thankfully I do not suffer many of these days either.
> But the answer to your question is no, absolutely not. Just like you
> phony, grinning Caucasians are not following true Christianity by your
> sinister practices here in the good ol' U.S. neither are the various
> sectarian groups. Muhammad did not teach the severe subjugation of
> women nor any of the other _culturally based_ practices which are
> vehemently held into place century after century. These are culturally
> based just like racism is culturally based and is not true
> Christianity. Hadith, which is the pure teachings of Prophet Muhammad
Just tell us what you do not know and maybe we can just go from there,
okay. :-)
> Just like the biased practices in this country against minority groups
> (specifically Blacks) and women is unchristian since Jesus did not
> teach any of these unchristian practices, instead the suppression of
> women (sexism) and minorities (racism) is merely culturally based.
>
Once again, you flabbergast us all. Now of course you realize
'they' will call what you said hate speech. Obviously with your
level of intelligence I know you knew this but did you care? Nope.
How far will she go? Guess we all received the answer to that weighty
question. I know a few Aries too, reminds me to never cross those
people. LOL.
Sojourner Truth
>
> >
> > I would like to share my tiny bit of insight into this situation. I do
> > not mind 'serving' my country so long as this does not interfere
> > with my own life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Sorry but everyone
> > has his or her limits and this primarily is mine.
> >
> can which is what you did. Who can fault you here?
>
> > Just like the biased practices in this country against minority groups
> > (specifically Blacks) and women is unchristian since Jesus did not
> > teach any of these unchristian practices, instead the suppression of
> > women (sexism) and minorities (racism) is merely culturally based.
> >
> How far will she go? Guess we all received the answer to that weighty
> question. I know a few Aries too, reminds me to never cross those
See, that's one of the differences between us. I do not
underestimate the human mind. There are people out there with their
thinking caps on who realize what I am saying and most likely even why
I am saying it.
How far would any person go in defense of his or her mother, sisters,
nieces, nephews, cousins, aunts and uncles, etc. in addition to the
thousands upon thousands of innocent Black children?
I came into being in 1970. The City of Chicago's Housing Ordinance
was formed in 1963. Yet, this occurred just over this past summer here
in Chicago. http://www.clccrul.org/article.html?&rls_article_id=39
I had no direct hand whatsoever in the present condition of the City of
Chicago. I do not vote toward the zoning laws in City Hall as I
mentioned in a previous post. I had no parts in contributing,
maintaining or creating the gloom and despair felt by many people
living there. My actions can not by any stretch of the imagination be
called hatred. No way, no how could any sane individual conclude that
unless that person has a vested interest in keeping that city's
citizens in the desolation, isolation and sorrow they presently reside.
I most certainly have a vested interest in keeping the spotlight on
Chi-town although I no longer reside there I have lots of family that
still do. My objective is not to tear Chicago down; but, just the
opposite. My objective is to help build her up but more importantly to
serve as a voice for those that are caught up in the throes of that
24-Hour-Economic-Survival-Mode I spoke of earlier. Most of these
desperate citizens are so wrapped up in just surviving that they do not
have the time or inclination to help do this. Others still do not have
or know the facts as I have been blessed to know and have. There are
some who may instinctively feel that something is amiss but maybe do
not have the literary skills to fully understand all these dire
implications and the dire effect it has on a person's life even if
they do get to read the facts for themselves. This is where I come in.
I do not have an abundant of money to spare but I do have a voice.
Because I grew up on the west-side of Chicago I do know what this feels
like on a day-to-day basis. It's absolutely brutal.
So I figured out one day, why not me? No really, why not me? Then I
penned the name of someone else who one day maybe acknowledged the same
and decided to use her voice too. I have a vested interest in the
outcome of Chicago. The legal profession has a term for this which
explains that a person can not just bring litigation into the courts
without such a vested interest or a direct stake in its outcome. That
would be me, myself and I.
I remember well as a teenager working on the north-side and befriending
this girl that lived on the far south-side in a community called
Altgeld Gardens. Our neighborhoods were frightening paralleled almost
to a science. Then it hit me. This is not coincidence. This was
deliberate. She and I would talk about this for long hours on our way
home from work. We had to travel far since we could find no work in
our own respective communities. Then a couple of years later I read
this book by Iceberg Slim
http://www.buy.com/prod/mama_black_widow/q/loc/106/print/1/30291764.html.
It is an excellent story about Chi-town back in the day. It was so
similar to my own childhood (father, etc.) that I often had to put the
book down to recompose myself more than once. If anyone is interested
it is a story about a gay African American male and it will rip your
very heart out. Then, I read some more books. One in particular
comes to mind by the same author called, Trick
Baby.http://www.kcholmim.org/0870679775/Trick_Baby.html
And part II to this book is Long White Con which again reaffirmed my
inner beliefs and revealed truths about Chicago.
http://www.24hourtalk.com/books/isbn0870679740.html
So I doubt anyone with the mental capacity to see the reality of my
life and others growing up poor in a ghetto in America would really
fault my speaking out. Just like you learned in American Politics 101
you have to ask yourself the pertinent questions: Who Benefits? Who
Gains? Who Loses? etc. and then anyone can figure out the truth for
himself or herself.
I mean no harm whatsoever but quite the opposite in fact. I trust the
public to realize that if nothing else. Maybe I am wrong in this
assumption but I do sincerely believe this nonetheless.
Bambi
> Sojourner Truth wrote:
> >
> Don't look at me to tell you guys what sign I am. No way is that going
> to happen. ;
>
Yeah, probably a secretive Scorpio is my first guess; Pisces is my
second with Gemini or Aquarius as my last choices.
> > But the answer to your question is no, absolutely not. Just like you
> > phony, grinning Caucasians are not following true Christianity by your
> > sinister practices here in the good ol' U.S. neither are the various
> > sectarian groups. Muhammad did not teach the severe subjugation of
>
> Just tell us what you do not know and maybe we can just go from there,
> okay. :-)
I can not believe a smart guy like you did not figured out her
Achilles' Heel. It is the inability to be vulnerable, to let anyone
enter this private side of her, which is a very typical Aries trait. I
think that's why Dude probably threw those kids into her path. ;-)
>
> Once again, you flabbergast us all. Now of course you realize
> 'they' will call what you said hate speech. Obviously with your
> level of intelligence I know you knew this but did you care? Nope.
>
> How far will she go? Guess we all received the answer to that weighty
> question. I know a few Aries too, reminds me to never cross those
> people. LOL.
>
They (Aries) have tempers true but the anger is so fleeting you almost
forget about it as soon as it happens mainly because they will come
skipping back in a few moments later as though nothing at all just
occurred (I know,, makes you wonder sometimes). Yet, they do not hold
grudges and they will most definitely supply you with the very shirt
off of their backs, if you ask and mostly especially if you do not ask.
Aries will see a need and jump right in as though it is their
birthright to do so. Aries are very smart people and full of advice and
almost too ready to help when a hand is needed.
Now Scorpios are by far the most vengeful of the zodiac. I have one
cousin in particular (he and I are the same age) and we are closer than
any two siblings. I have witnessed him lay in wait for ten and even
twenty years to exact his revenge on a person who either slighted him
or someone he loves. A little scary to watch a person doing this as
though said event just occurred the day or week prior. But in their
defense they are the most loyal of the zodiac if you can win his or her
trust which is not easy. Scorpio does not trust easily if at all. He
and I click so well due to his biting sarcasm (unusual wit) which is
another trait I love about Scorpios. But best be warned. I think
'the stinger' on its tail serves as a careful reminder if you do
forget.
Bambi
> Sure, funny because it happened to me and not you.
>
Who knew it could get even funnier. That was great, thanks for
sharing. Does it just get better and funnier with each telling? (I am
still wiping my eyes...)
> "Please don't know the word. Please don't know the word."
> Isn't that sad? As luck would have it, I knew the word. It never
> dawned on me to lie. I don't think lying enters any child's mind
> that is in a reasonably loving environment. So it never even entered
> my mind to just lie about it. Maybe too I was afraid that my Dad would
> know I was fibbing since he knew me so well.
>
But you did once that I can recall, right?
> I prayed to not know a word because I knew it would just give my
> brothers more ammunition to use against me. Somehow, someway I knew my
> brothers #2 and #3 (I was #4) would find a way to get revenge against
> me since they usually did.
>
It is a miracle you still associate yourself with those men. Seriously
now that I ponder this. I mean, really!
>
> I was an advent reader. I read everything from comic books, to the
> funny pages when our Sunday paper came to the backs of the cereal boxes
> while I munched away on my cereal. I was a big collector of the Archie
> comic books. Remember those? Jughead, Archie, Veronica, Betty, etc.
I LOVED them. I wonder are they still around for the current
generation to enjoy?
> I had so many of these I couldn't even count them. Again, I stored
> them in multiple boxes. They are lucky I am not materialistic because
> most of those comics would be collector items today since I began
> collecting them at like age six or seven. Anyway, I came home to find
> them all cut up into tiny little pieces. Well, what remained of what
> once was comic book; most of the comic books were nowhere to be found.
> Most just miraculously disappeared. That is why I would sit and wait
> for my Dad to get home. Because my Mom's response to everything was,
> "Wait 'til your father comes home." This irked me so much!. I
> was like that cartoon with a big swollen face, beet red with steam
LOL. That was some vision. I take it you and Moms were not very
close; I do not think I asked prior or did I?
> visited, our school was having a candy drive. Aunt Mae bought a lot of
> it to take back home with her. Number 2 and number 3 snuck into her
> room and stole all the candy she paid them for. The look on my
> Aunt's face was priceless. Even she could not believe how
> unbelievable these boys were. I bet she remembered this trip for a
ROTFL! I honestly think you may have missed your true calling, I swear
you did!
> long time after she got home. Of course, they got whippings big time
> but it hardly stopped them for more than a day, two tops. Actually,
> they seemed to get recharged from them which my Dad figured out and is
> why he switched strategy.
It is a miracle that man is still alive the way you all drove him to
distraction. Actually I can not believe he didn't just commit himself
to escape. ;
n9...@hotmail.com
Here's hoping there's more like this in the future!
Ed.83 (u45928)
Few games you can check out:
http://uc.gamestotal.com - Unification Wars
http://gc.gamestotal.com - Galactic Conquest
http://www.stephenyong.com/runescape.htm - Runescape
http://www.stephenyong.com/kingsofchaos.htm - Kings of chaos
jeremyfivemiami2
Kyle wrote:
> The Bushes are trailer trash + wealth.
I agree. Has anyone noticed that the two most blatant abusers of the
English language in recent history have been Bush Sr.'s chosen Vice
President, and his son, Dumb-as-Dirt Dubya. Is English grammar simply
not taught in Texas? Does Bush, Sr. cherish those with perpetually
befuddled speech for some unknown reason? Certainly, there is evidence
that some ivy league schools are giving a free pass to some obvious
dolts.
I am a firm believer that speech is an indicator of intellect. Our
greatest Presidents have had a full command of the English language at
their disposal.
Dubya is "plenty smart', you say? Well, some might elevate him a notch
in their opinion if he would stop using informal speech in formal
settings.
(Dictionary Definition of Plenty - "Informal. fully; quite: plenty good
enough.")
Speech that might be "plenty" good enough in a Texas cattle auction is
a gross mistake when used by the occupant of the world's most powerful
office, in matters of international importance.
But then, that's a hot potato. Potatoe. Potat? I sometimes miss Dan
Quayle because it's a terrible thing to loose one's mind. . . Mind
one's loss? Let your grey matter slip?
Oh, hell with it. Dubya's just "a Texas girl like me" who just wants
"gynecologists to practice their love with women." But then, that's
another hot potat. French fry?
J
Syd
> > >
> > > I would like to share my tiny bit of insight into this situation. I do
> > > not mind 'serving' my country so long as this does not interfere
> > > with my own life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Sorry but everyone
> > > has his or her limits and this primarily is mine.
> > >
> > can which is what you did. Who can fault you here?
> >
> No one, I hope.
Uhm, why would they?
> I had no direct hand whatsoever in the present condition of the City of
> Chicago. I do not vote toward the zoning laws in City Hall as I
> mentioned in a previous post. I had no parts in contributing,
> maintaining or creating the gloom and despair felt by many people
> living there. My actions can not by any stretch of the imagination be
> called hatred. No way, no how could any sane individual conclude that
> unless that person has a vested interest in keeping that city's
> citizens in the desolation, isolation and sorrow they presently reside.
>
I think you did an excellent job explaining yourself. But as you said
(very well, I must say, per usual) I probably would NOT have even
bothered.
I got some friends who are total internet freaks and we were chatting
just last night and they are very, very curious about you. They wonder
what you look like and if you have 'a man' and I told them, "How
the hell do I know?"
BENJ...@hotmail.com
> Sojourner Truth wrote:
>
> >
> > not mind 'serving' my country so long as this does not interfere
> > with my own life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Sorry but everyone
> > has his or her limits and this primarily is mine.
> >
> Not all of have the gusto for killing so we help where and however we
> can which is what you did. Who can fault you here?
>
turn simultaneously toward each other with our mouths gaping open.
Something like, "man can kill from sun up until sun down and it will
still never be enough". No, this does not fit you. I do not see you
as an automatic killer type.
ST's motives/intentions I think are pretty clear and straight-forward.
It's not like she is running for political office, nor does she have
a Talk Show which she need millions of views to watch, or a magazine
for still more millions to purchase. She has no News-show that she
need views to watch her on. No clothes she needs anyone to purchase
from her. No books she needs to get sold, purchased, etc. Oh and also
no newly released movie or movie turned DVD which she either stars in,
directs or produced. Did I leave anyone or anything out? Her actions
are (from where I am sitting) derived purely from the heart. That is
what I dig about her more than anything. She has a superb mind but her
heart, her heart blows me away more than anything else!!
Of course people are getting smarter nowadays; they are letting
lawyers, instead of their conscience, be their guides.
-Will Rogers, humorist
Sojourner Truth
> ST's motives/intentions I think are pretty clear and straight-forward.
>
Oh I would not dare knock a single soul for whatever path he/she
chooses to embark upon (I can not even if I wanted to since I am a firm
believer in destiny). Just like I do not expect anyone to judge me as
I engage upon mine. All I can say to any person is that I hope they
are truly happy with their decision. I know I am!
In the attitude of silence the soul finds the path in a clearer light,
and what is elusive and deceptive resolves itself into crystal
clearness. Our life is a long and arduous quest after Truth. Always aim
at complete harmony of thought and word and deed. Always aim at
purifying your thoughts and everything will be well.
-MAHATMA GANDHI
Sojourner Truth
> > > Not all of have the gusto for killing so we help where and however we
> > > can which is what you did. Who can fault you here?
> > >
> > No one, I hope.
>
> Uhm, why would they?
>
Who knows? And, you know what follows next. Who cares?
>
>
>
>
> I got some friends who are total internet freaks and we were chatting
> just last night and they are very, very curious about you. They wonder
> what you look like and if you have 'a man' and I told them, "How
> the hell do I know?"
>
>
And I thought Hollywood was nosey, damn! ;-->
Tell you friends that while I appreciate an inquisitive mind because
there is no harm in that. In fact unlike that expression, curiosity
does not hurt anyone. I believe firmly in just the opposite actually.
I believe 'seek and ye shall find'... So tell them that while I
was not as blessed as our dear Bamma (few women are) I think I came out
relatively ahead of the game. I would term myself 'cute' for sure.
In high school I never went without a boyfriend for very long. I am
very tall like about 5'-9" with legs for days as my man loves to
say. I have a size D-cup which my man also loves (what man doesn't?)
and yet I am a bit luckier than Bamma perhaps who exercises often for
her figure. Me, I can eat anything I want, anytime of the day I want
and it never shows. I work-out for the wonderful feeling I get from it.
Well, I do not work-out, I run. Love to run, live to run, I even dream
about running in my sleep I love it so much. I also meditate which is
very peaceful and relaxing for my mind, body and soul.
That is the only downfall to having these kids. I use to be able to
just go - - get up and run willy-nilly whenever the urge struck me,
which was and still is daily. Except now I have to enlist the help of
my numerous friends and acquaintances for this enjoyment. It is worth
it though.
I have been with 'my man' for several years and he is amazingly
smart and wise for his age which is only 32. I think he is smarter
than I as he is very street-smart. I do not possess this skill as much
(thanks to my dear ol'Dad who kept a tight reign on his little
darlings) but I admire it in him more than in anyone else I have thus
far encountered (but I would, he's my man!); but, in addition my man is
book-smart (deadly combo). He is a classic bad boy turned good. He
was a hell-raiser on L.A.'s streets or so he told me (but, he grew up
without the influence of his father).
So tell your boys rather than focus on me (which I think is nice) to
instead get Bamma's astrology book and figure themselves out.
Because me, I'm good to go. Or as we use to say back in my day,
"I'm straight." But again, I do appreciate an inquisitive
nature. Nothing at all wrong with that. Nothing at all.
Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in
harmony. -MAHATMA GANDHI
mmu...@crowleylamb.com
>
>
> LOL. You two sound a lot like me and my Dad when I was growing up. I
> your classic-case of the 'proverbial daddy's girl.' I held on to
> each and every word he said. I can remember when I was really little
> just watching him sleep. I would rub his cheek and listen and watch
> his rhythmic breathing. Even in sleep I found him wonderful. I was
> totally and immensely into my daddy worship. I was convinced that he
> know where I got that from. Yet, no one or no thing could convince me
> otherwise. Maybe you grew up in a loving family but I don't think I
> would be here today if it were not for my little brothers because I
> know for certain that the older ones plotted my demise daily. One
> would think I would be more than use to men wanting my head served up
> on a silver platter. If it was not for the two younger boys, I would
> not be typing this today.
I think you missed your true calling too Courtney.
>
> But my Dad loved current events. My Dad's favorite expression is,
> "Words are my stock and trade." That is so peculiar for a man with
> little education. But the man is very smart. Most of the issues
> during the time frame when I was growing up were the Watergate scandal,
> Iran Contra Scandal, Iran Hostage Crisis, etc. My Dad is also a Cancer
> (I love you Mr. Bill Cosby) which I found out thanks to you. I know, I
Me too although I did not know he was a Cancer until recently. My kids
have all of his LIttle Bill books. We love, love the character Alice
The Great which is the great-grandmother or grandmother, I forget. But
I think her character was a very nice addition and a wonderful tribute
to older women in the family. And, of course I grew up on Fat Albert.
But who didn't just adore him as the special father, Mr. Huxtable?
Syd
> > > Sojourner Truth wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> This reminded me of that CSI commercial which made my girlfriend and I
> turn simultaneously toward each other with our mouths gaping open.
> Something like, "man can kill from sun up until sun down and it will
>
You know this reminds me of a book I am currently reading by a Native
American who studied a psychohistorical analysis named Jack Forbes.
Forbes wrote Columbus and Other Cannibals (1992), discussing the
destructive anti-life behavior of Western societies. Forbes believes
there is a sickness plaguing society, enabling exploitation,
imperialism, and terrorism to thrive. He does not confine his argument
to people of European descent, but believes that their psychohistorical
experiences have contaminated other cultural groups in the same way a
disease inhabits an organism:
"For several thousand years human beings have suffered from a plague,
a disease worse than leprosy, a sickness worse than malaria, a malady
much more terrible than smallpox...Imperialism, colonialism, torture,
enslavement, conquest, brutality, lying, cheating, secret police,
greed, rape, terrorism-they are only words until we are touched by
them. Then they are no longer words, but become a vicious reality
which overwhelms, consumes and changes our lives forever...This is the
disease, then, with which I hope to deal-the disease of aggression
against other living things and, more precisely, the disease of the
consuming of other creatures' lives and possessions...I call it, this
disease, this wetiko (cannibal) psychosis, it is the greatest epidemic
sickness to man." p. 9-10.
>
> ST's motives/intentions I think are pretty clear and straight-forward.
>
> It's not like she is running for political office, nor does she have
> a Talk Show which she need millions of views to watch, or a magazine
> for still more millions to purchase. She has no News-show that she
> need views to watch her on. No clothes she needs anyone to purchase
> from her. No books she needs to get sold, purchased, etc. Oh and also
> no newly released movie or movie turned DVD which she either stars in,
> directs or produced. Did I leave anyone or anything out? Her actions
> are (from where I am sitting) derived purely from the heart. That is
> what I dig about her more than anything. She has a superb mind but her
> heart, her heart blows me away more than anything else!!
>
Mine too. Thank God for people like this woman who give back so very
much of herself, for free, plus enjoy and live for it. How rare her
special and pure utter selflessness.
Courtney
> Just like the biased practices in this country against minority groups
> (specifically Blacks) and women is unchristian since Jesus did not
> teach any of these unchristian practices, instead the suppression of
> women (sexism) and minorities (racism) is merely culturally based.
>
Correct. In Illinois a woman earns .71 cents for every $1.00 a man
earns.
As far as race issues in the good old U.S.A. are concerned, we do not
need Paula Zahn's cable show or any other television program for that
matter (yes, a girlfriend who knows I like staying informed and knows I
do not have cable told me all about it) to inform any American citizen
that racists are still alive and kicking in this country. Nor does
anyone have to travel beyond the Mason-Dixon Line in order to locate
such people.
Regardless, this reality is astonishing not just to me but to millions
of people simply because it is not like African Americans just dropped
off the boat yesterday. African Americans have resided in this country
for centuries so one would think all American citizens would be more
than use to us by now. African Americans have fought bravely for every
single war some to only be viciously hung from trees in their uniforms
upon their return! My Dad fought bravely in WWII and came back home to
injustice and hateful treatment everywhere he went! You guys read it.
If that's not scandalous and the epitome of hatred (or, if you prefer
the terms bitter/mean great!) I don't know what else would better
qualify as an example (besides, PZ's recent airing!). As Bamma so
eloquently put it, we find out that African Americans even fought in
record numbers in the Civil War. My God!!!
Everyone will recall Crispus Attucks (1750) later to be the first
person shot in the Boston Massacre, who escaped from his master in
Farmingham, MA since American history books are filled with this man.
Yet, here we are in 2006 with this despicable predicament of race
relations in America. It's a mad, mad, mad world for sure.
Courtney
> Kyle wrote:
> > The Bushes are trailer trash + wealth.
>
> I agree. Has anyone noticed that the two most blatant abusers of the
> English language in recent history have been Bush Sr.'s chosen Vice
> President, and his son, Dumb-as-Dirt Dubya. Is English grammar simply
> not taught in Texas? Does Bush, Sr. cherish those with perpetually
Apparently, the dear citizens of Texas are far too absorbed in their
racist past to bother with the 'any' improvement of their English
language skills. And, of course, I understand why. Hatred is an
all-consuming 24/7 job!
SometimesSane
> Sojourner Truth wrote:
>
> As far as race issues in the good old U.S.A. are concerned, we do not
> need Paula Zahn's cable show or any other television program for that
> matter (yes, a girlfriend who knows I like staying informed and knows I
> do not have cable told me all about it) to inform any American citizen
> that racists are still alive and kicking in this country. Nor does
> anyone have to travel beyond the Mason-Dixon Line in order to locate
> such people.
>
close with Mr. Montgomery's son. Mr. Montgomery is an attorney at
the famous Johnny Cochran law firm. It was called Cochran and
Montgomery prior to the former's demise. In any event, a group of
black men were gathered for a holiday event and the junior Mr.
Montgomery spoke of the racist attitudes he felt by many Caucasians
when he tried to branch out from his Dad's firm (or, I guess make his
way w/o benefit of his father's influence, direction, etc.) and seek
employment in the Midwest. He went back to his father's law firm
where he is now gainfully employed.
In case Blacks would forget how racism was and still is as American as
apple pie and baseball in early Henry Fonda movies, I recall him say
quite matter of fact "free, white and twenty-one". In the movies
and television shows of today the same attitude prevails but it is done
in a much more sophisticated manner. An example of this to me is the
mostly all-white TV shows with one or two minorities thrown in for good
measure ...
> Regardless, this reality is astonishing not just to me but to millions
> of people simply because it is not like African Americans just dropped
> off the boat yesterday. African Americans have resided in this country
> for centuries so one would think all American citizens would be more
> than use to us by now. African Americans have fought bravely for every
> single war some to only be viciously hung from trees in their uniforms
> upon their return! My Dad fought bravely in WWII and came back home to
> injustice and hateful treatment everywhere he went! You guys read it.
>
>
And just look how unbelievably forgiving African Americans are! Even
today they serve their country in amazing numbers - - from Gulf War to
present day war in Iraq!
"What a world...what a world!"
(bad-witch, Wizard of OZ)
Courtney
> You know this reminds me of a book I am currently reading by a Native
> American who studied a psychohistorical analysis named Jack Forbes.
> Forbes wrote Columbus and Other Cannibals (1992), discussing the
> destructive anti-life behavior of Western societies. Forbes believes
> there is a sickness plaguing society, enabling exploitation,
A person's level of awareness is associated with the programmed
content of a person's mind. Therefore, evil-minded people will be
attracted to situations associated with evil. Good-natured people will
be attracted to positive situations. Certainly a person can oscillate
between the extremes of good and evil, but physical and mental status
are what determine a person's ability to "change channels" and
tune into different levels of consciousness. According to Adler
(1968), each thought is a vibration with a measurable wavelength.
The meditative process is a way a person trains the mind and body to
tune into divine universal consciousness. It is interesting to note
that many cultures have theories on creation. Usually, a simple story
or philosophical concept, explains the origin of the universe. The
common denominator tends to be, quite logically, that the world as we
know it originated from a thought generated by the creator. In fact,
every thought we have originates in a being whose life is given by a
first creator, and is therefore, an extension or continuation of the
creation of the universe itself. Thus, we "conceive" our world; we
create our own individual worlds, lives, and ourselves.
This is a form of energy that is not well understood but it nonetheless
pertains to 'consciousness'. That is why I gave this idea of
(peace, harmony, joy, etc.) and that it should be sent up into the
universe by everyone.
For example, consciousness itself emits energy that dwells in the
universe. Psychologically, a person's conscious or consciousness
refers to a state of awareness of what is happening within or around
oneself. A person who lacks consciousness would be thinking on a
bestial level.
Here is a metaphor that may help to better explain the transmission of
conscious waves that I read awhile back. "A radio has been designed
to transmit sound waves into what we hear on the radio. What we hear
depends upon the channel, or the signal accessed. The different
channels correspond to frequencies or amplitudes of sound waves."
Consciousness works in a similar fashion.
Courtney
> *Is simply stunned to see a decent discussion in .celeb*
> Here's hoping there's more like this in the future!
>
Here!!--Here!!
Sojourner Truth
>
> As far as race issues in the good old U.S.A. are concerned, we do not
> need Paula Zahn's cable show or any other television program for that
> matter (yes, a girlfriend who knows I like staying informed and knows I
> do not have cable told me all about it) to inform any American citizen
> that racists are still alive and kicking in this country. Nor does
> anyone have to travel beyond the Mason-Dixon Line in order to locate
> such people.
>
never watch these types of shows. Sometimes, but almost never because
9 times out of 10 I end up disappointed. But you are correct in that
we do not need any show anywhere to tell us that the Animal Kingdom is
more loved, respected and revered than the average black person. Sad
reality to swallow but it is nonetheless the truth.
Syd
> A person's level of awareness is associated with the programmed
> content of a person's mind. Therefore, evil-minded people will be
> attracted to situations associated with evil. Good-natured people will
> be attracted to positive situations. Certainly a person can oscillate
> between the extremes of good and evil, but physical and mental status
> are what determine a person's ability to "change channels" and
> tune into different levels of consciousness. According to Adler
> (1968), each thought is a vibration with a measurable wavelength.
>
West (1987) postulates:
"The brain is not an 'evolved' organ which, somehow, accidentally
over the aeons generated a faculty we call 'consciousnesses'.
Rather, it was developed in order to receive and apprehend those
aspects of universal consciousness necessary for man to perform his
foreordained task - just as the radio does not generate radio waves
but receives the waves already there. The nature of consciousness
determines the structure of the brain; the nature of sound determines
the structure of the ear; the nature of light determines the structure
of the eye..." p.137.
With regard to the intimate links between the microcosm (smaller
version of something larger) and macrocosm (complex system seen as
single unit) West said:
"Man is the sum of the principles that pervade and organize the
universe; he is the self-perfecting product of the grand experiment
that is organic life on earth, embodying within himself the mineral,
vegetable and animal kingdoms. His body is the temple designed to
permit him to carry out the rite of self-perfection - the only
legitimate Human Goal. All other goals lead to apathy or disaster, as
is obvious from any daily newspaper." p. 135.
West continues:
"Man is a model of the universe. If he understandS himself
perfectly, he also understands the universe: astronomy, astrology,
geography, geodesy, measure, rhythm, proportion, mathematics, magic,
medicine, anatomy, art...all are linked in a grand dynamic scheme. No
aspect can be isolated from another and treated as a separate specialty
or field without distortion and destruction." p. 136.
Courtney
> I think you did an excellent job explaining yourself. But as you said
> (very well, I must say, per usual) I probably would NOT have even
> bothered.
>
It is a sad day indeed when a person feels the need to defend him or
herself for performing good deeds. It is sad because as any good
defense attorney will tell you it is next to near impossible to defend
yourself against a negative since you start the discussion quite
literally with your back against a wall.
Still she did a fantastic job because she is a fantastic person in word
and deed.
But I always like to answer obvious questions with obvious questions.
What would they (society) expect for a person who grew up like her do?
Oh, right, nothing. Of course that makes perfect sense! Watch
everyone around you (esp. those you love dearly) suffer and do nothing
about it. Okay, got it. I think what they are really telling everyone
is that we should all just shut the hell up and suffer in silence.
Every ethnicity has experienced vast suffering in their histories and I
do not think they solved the problem in this fashion. But African
Americans in America should think and act differently than others in
this regard? Listen how absurd that sounds. It sounds absurd because
it is. Totally, completely and immensely absurd. So ST's response
is exactly what we all knew it should be, isn't it?
The only other thing I would add is to also check out this book called
My Bloody Life by Reymundo Sanchez. This book is an awesome, grueling
story of Latino life growing up in Chi-town about 1970-80's. My 14
y/o read it over the summer and I never saw a teenager so consumed with
a book.
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&EAN=9781556524271&itm=1
It reminded me of the good old days when he preferred reading one of
his favorite books (Lemony Snicket) held his breath until a new one
came out, etc., calling me numerous times to remind me to 'not forget
to bring it home'. Like I did not know from the two prior calls he
left.
So, you know what I did next, right? I immediately went on-line for
something all book lovers know about. It is that 'find something
like' feature on book websites. I was glad I did. I also managed to
get him to read most of Stanley Tookey Williams books and I found Part
II of the above author's book labeled, Once a King Always A King.
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&EAN=9781556525537&itm=1
These are VERY good reads for _all young men_ living in today's time
of crazy dilemmas, problems and decisions to walk the right path in
life, etc.
Syd
>
> Tell you friends that while I appreciate an inquisitive mind because
> there is no harm in that. In fact unlike that expression, curiosity
> does not hurt anyone. I believe firmly in just the opposite actually.
> I believe 'seek and ye shall find'... So tell them that while I
> was not as blessed as our dear Bamma (few women are) I think I came out
> relatively ahead of the game. I would term myself 'cute' for sure.
> In high school I never went without a boyfriend for very long. I am
> very tall like about 5'-9" with legs for days as my man loves to
> say. I have a size D-cup which my man also loves (what man doesn't?)
Girl, you got 'em all scrambling now. They felt certain you could like
them too with the cat you currently have. As one put it, "Man, she
need to drop that zero and get with this hero." This from a man who
watches nothing but 24-7sports. One of my best buddies said, "Wow, I
like her even more now" (I guess after your description of yourself and
yo' man). What are you doing to these men?
SometimesSane
> Courtney wrote:
> > A person's level of awareness is associated with the programmed
> > content of a person's mind. Therefore, evil-minded people will be
> > attracted to situations associated with evil. Good-natured people will
> > be attracted to positive situations. Certainly a person can oscillate
> > between the extremes of good and evil, but physical and mental status
> > are what determine a person's ability to "change channels" and
> > tune into different levels of consciousness. According to Adler
> > (1968), each thought is a vibration with a measurable wavelength.
> >
>
tune with nature by living in peace and harmony with the world and its
inhabitants (leading to spiritualism). White people, however, have
generally been more inclined to control and dominate nature (leading to
materialism). Cosmologically, white and non-white people view the
world differently , and it is primarily due to cultural influences and
environmental conditions. In other words, ethnic differences are the
result of different patterns of human progression over thousands of
years of being separated in specific geographical regions of the earth.
Some people have evolved from cold and resource-limited environments,
whereas others have evolved from tropical and resource-plentiful
environments (Diop, 1974).
> West (1987) postulates:
>
> "The brain is not an 'evolved' organ which, somehow, accidentally
> over the aeons generated a faculty we call 'consciousnesses'.
> Rather, it was developed in order to receive and apprehend those
> aspects of universal consciousness necessary for man to perform his
> foreordained task - just as the radio does not generate radio waves
> but receives the waves already there. The nature of consciousness
Most people may or may not be aware of the below: I found it
'mad-crazy' because until fairly recently even I was unaware of this:
AFRICAN people naturally have kinky or wiry hair. Non-African people
have matted or animal-like hair. In other words, kinky or wire-like
hair (the hair ONLY Blacks have) IS AN EVOLUTIONARY ADVANCE since very
few animals (sheep, buffalo, yak etc.) have hair similar to African
people. Kinky or wire-like hair is constructed like an antenna "to
absorb" more readily those naturally occurring electromagnetic waves
in nature. The "conscious waves" Court and Syd mentioned earlier
are ALSO more attracted to kinky or wire-like hair. Matted or
animal-like hair may generate electricity in the form of static;
however, it is matted and limits the conversion of radiant energy into
other forms of energy (black hair is not matted\nappy as the negative
terminology is labeled but 'curly' ...like corkscrew twists, it
quite literally grows out of your head in this [turn clock] manner).
Not only that but the number of turns [curves] in each hair strand is
related to the number of ancestors in your gene pool of African
descent, etc.
So ponder all that as you hate and dis' (straighten, perm, etc.) your
BLACK hair. At least God has a purpose for his madness or rather
blessings to word it properly.
mmu...@crowleylamb.com
> Courtney wrote:
> >
> > As far as race issues in the good old U.S.A. are concerned, we do not
> > need Paula Zahn's cable show or any other television program for that
> > matter (yes, a girlfriend who knows I like staying informed and knows I
> > do not have cable told me all about it) to inform any American citizen
> > that racists are still alive and kicking in this country. Nor does
> > anyone have to travel beyond the Mason-Dixon Line in order to locate
> > such people.
> >
They know this. They are doing what my daddy called 'playing the nut
role' on all of us. That is what they are doing. Nobody's stupid
America!!!! We are NOT stupid! Time to recognize!!!!!!
(hellloooooooo,, wake up!! We finally did!)
> No we do not. I heard about this too from one of my girlfriends. I
> never watch these types of shows. Sometimes, but almost never because
> 9 times out of 10 I end up disappointed. But you are correct in that
> we do not need any show anywhere to tell us that the Animal Kingdom is
I know right. You guys heard the latest? They are doing research on
'Squirrels'... I could not believe this when I heard it broadcast
on the news and internet....Squirrels. They want to study how they
live, how they survive, where they go in wintertime, etc. However,
Black people could all go to hell as far as they are concerned. They
could care less about their fellow man. We should all just rot in hell
for all they care.
They `love` Black music, Black soul-food, Black clothing-line, Black
sayings, Black anything at all. But BLACK PEOPLE they hate, loathe,
scorn, look down upon, spurn and abhor. That is straight-up insane
rationale no matter how you justify this.
patri...@rock.com
> Syd wrote:
> > You know this reminds me of a book I am currently reading by a Native
> > American who studied a psychohistorical analysis named Jack Forbes.
> > Forbes wrote Columbus and Other Cannibals (1992), discussing the
> > destructive anti-life behavior of Western societies. Forbes believes
> > there is a sickness plaguing society, enabling exploitation,
>
> This is a form of energy that is not well understood but it nonetheless
> pertains to 'consciousness'. That is why I gave this idea of
> (peace, harmony, joy, etc.) and that it should be sent up into the
> universe by everyone.
>
I asked Court to try and fully explain all this to everyone because
what she does not realize (and other precious souls like her) is that
they throw these immensely pure 'ideas' and 'concepts' out in
only a sentence or two and then they expect everybody to automatically
get it.
Some might but most people do not. Everybody can not always immediately
grasp this stuff which is understandable since it takes the entire book
to fully and/or adequately know where you guys are all coming from.
You guys did not learn and understand this stuff readily. Instead you
know it backwards/forwards; hence, due in part to the fact that you
have read the entire contents of the particular book you are discussing
or elaborating about.
They do not realize this when they are doing this but I do probably, I
guess since I am on the outside looking in.