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Jan 2, 2010, 5:33:57 AM1/2/10
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Concord � Jubilant gay couples have rung in the New Year in New
Hampshire with wedding vows to celebrate the state's new law
legalizing same-sex marriage.

At midnight, New Hampshire joined Massachusetts, Vermont,
Connecticut and Iowa in allowing gay marriage.

About 15 couples braved the cold to exchange vows outside the
New Hampshire State House in Concord. Others planned private
ceremonies around the state.

The law grants no new rights to gays but eliminates the separate
status for civil unions.

Couples already in civil unions have three options to convert
their statuses to marriages. They can have marriage ceremonies,
file marriage paperwork with their town clerks to convert their
statuses during 2010 or wait until the unions are automatically
converted in 2011.

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To all the regular UL disgusting posters making this a religious
issue:

Violent, irrational, intolerant, allied to racism and tribalism
and bigotry, invested in ignorance and hostile to free inquiry,
contemptuous of women and coercive toward children: organized
religion ought to have a great deal on its conscience. Let's add
one more charge to the bill of indictment, religion looks
forward to the destruction of the world, it openly or covertly
wishes that the end occur.

Some more wonderful items from religious education: Telling tens
of millions of children that masturbation will make them blind,
or that impure thoughts will lead to an eternity of torment, or
that members of other faiths including members of their own
families will burn, or that venereal disease will result from
kisses. We have no way to quantify the damage done by holy
instructors who rammed home these lies and accompanied them with
floggings and rapes and public humiliations. The Vatican, and
its vast network of dioceses, has in the past decade alone been
forced to admit complicity in a huge racket of child rape and
child torture, mainly but by no means exclusively homosexual, in
which known pederasts and sadists were shielded from the law
reassigned to parishes where the pickings of innocent and
defenseless were often richer.

In the recent division in the Anglican Church over homosexuality
and ordination, several bishops made the fatuous point that
homosexuality is "unnatural" because it does not occur in other
species. Leaving aside the fundamental absurdity of this
observation: are humans part of "nature" or not? Or if they
chance to be homosexual, are they created in god's image or not?
Leave aside the well-attested fact that numberless kinds of
birds and mammals and primates do engage in homosexual play.
Homosexuality is present in all societies, and its incidence
would appear to be part of human "design."

Religion is not unlike racism, one version of it inspires and
provokes the other. Within hours after 9/11 the "reverends" Pat
Robertson and Jerry Fallwell had announced that the immolation
of their fellow creatures was a divine judgment on a secular
society that tolerated homosexuality and abortion.

Religion is man-made. Even the men who made it cannot agree on
what their prophets or redeemers or gurus actually said or did.
Still less can they hope to tell us the "meaning" of later
discoveries and developments which were, when they began, either
obstructed by their religions or denounced by them. And yet the
believers still claim to know. Not just to know, but to know
EVERYTHING! Not just to know that God exists, and that he
created and supervised the whole enterprise, but also to know
what "he" demands of us-from our diet to our observances to our
sexual morality.

I'm regularly disgusted by the complete hatred of so many of the
posters on this website. I thought the morality of your
religions taught you to love thy neighbor. If Jesus was actually
real and could see how you guys treat other humans beings, what
would he say?

I for one am proud that NH has realized that everyone should be
treated equally. I'm a happily married man, and in no way does
Gay marriage affect mine what-so-ever. Leaving votes like this
up to the conservative right wing religious zealots would only
prolong the hatred and intolerance. If the Civil Rights Act of
1964 was left up the people, it probably wouldn't have passed
either, do any of you right wingers want to repeal that? Learn
to love and this world will become a better place, keep teaching
hatred and maybe you will just get that end of the world you so
covet.
- Matt, Manchester

Blah blah blah Bible...blah blah blah Jesus...blah blah blah
Sticking my nose in other people's business...blah blah blah
bigoted and hateful...blah blah blah more about the Bible.

If you don't like how NH does things, get in your little car,
get on the highway, drive south until you reach Mississippi,
Alabama, Georgia or any of the other un-American homes of
traitors and turncoats.

If you're whining about how your against gay marriage, or
abortion, or any of your other religous nonsense...

You don't belong here. Get out.
- NSR, Epping, NH

I'm ashamed of all the hate coming from my neighbors in this
great state. These people are fellow human beings.
- Christopher, Newton

Why all the fear of letting the voters have a say? Oh yeah, that
did not work out so well in states where they actually have a
DEMOCRACY.
- Pedro, Pembroke nh

Seems to me that people are always accusing the gays of wanting
special rights, when it's the religious fanatics who really want
special rights because they want to have marriage defined by
their own discriminatory terms.
- Dom, Weare

It's great seeing people on both sides of this issue dealt a
legal blow every so often. Watching the subsequent hissy fit
that follows is entertainment at its finest. Thank you, Jesus.
- DM, Hampton

There's so much hate and abuse in this country - we judge
everyone on everything. I'm tired of the hate. In early years of
Catholic CCD class I learned the golden rule "Do unto others as
you would have them do unto you." That�s the true test of my
beliefs � would I still believe something if it was turned onto
me.

I (a woman) married a man yesterday. It was beautiful to have
him look in my eyes and in front of the people who love us say
he'll always do the best he can for me, no matter what, for as
long as we're both alive. I can't imagine taking that heartfelt
experience, or that lifetime of companionship, away from any two
people. I�d loathe losing that right myself, so I cannot agree
to keep that right from other people. I�m not for gay marriage �
I�m not for �traditional� marriage. I�m just for marriage and
the companionship and bond that the legal vow creates. My
opinion is to focus on the vow, learn how to keep it alive over
several decades together, and try a lot harder to keep out of
the divorce court.
- Treat Others as you Want to be Treated, Manchester

Amazing, the left has ruined the last of the conservative states.
Traditional marriage was based on allowing a man and woman to
join so that the woman would fall under his benefits so that she
can stay home to have children.
How does two of the same sex rear children other than adoption.
It isn't about being equal, it is about pushing their lifestyle
in our faces and laughing.
New hampshire, you voted the liberal trash in, now it is time to
take out the trash.
- Craig, Sarasota Fl

If we put it to a public vote - I say we outlaw divorce.

Who are we to say who can and can't get married - 50% make it
and 50% get divorced. Out of the 50% that make it what is the
percentage that may be miserable of that percentage if any?

Live Free or Die
- Rick, Bedford

I am very happy to be living in NH today! Live free or die!
aber, swanzey, That is the most ignorant statement I've heard in
a while. I feel sorry for you.
- Amber P., Manchester, NH

I am so proud of my elected legislators (that we all voted into
office) for making a life changing motion for so many in this
state (including myself). Live Free or Die!
- Gina, Manchester

I love the way the homosexual lobby tries to couch this nonsense
as a civil rights issue, attempting to equate discrimination of
a person because he/she has a different skin color with the
distinction plainly demonstrated by homosexual people who TAKE
SPECIFIC ACTION by having sex with people of the same gender. I
mean a run-of-the-mill black person who simply exists like the
rest of us has done nothing that warrants systemic or individual
recrimination. But a guy that has sex with another guy -- the
definition of a homosexual -- has taken a specific action which
makes his status different than the norm. What part of what
homosexuals do -- the having sex with people of the same gender -
- is so difficult for people to see is the distinction with a
difference? I mean, nobody should beat these people or not give
them a job or an apartment, but to make a law that changes the
definition of marriage? I'd like to propose a law that allows a
man to marry his dog, a tree, his bike, a ham sandwich, or his
sister. Any liberal legislators willing to sponsor that bill?
- Jim, Stratham

I could care any less or more, but if I was able to vote on the
issue, which the citizens of NH are were not allowed to do, I'd
probably vote against it because I'm sick and tired of being
labeled a bigot because my Constitutional right to disagree with
others has transformed me into a bigot.

Just like abortion, I could care less/more on the matter, but
I'm sick of women telling me I have no opinion on the matter,
unless that opinion supports theirs

Watch, the first gay divorce, one of the parties will contest
the divorce, stating that gay marriage is illegal! Hypocrits!!!!

If this gets posted, I can bet that someone tells me that if I
supported gay marriage, then I wouldn't be a bigot.
- Scott, Manchester

We need the economy to get moving, we are wasting time with this
and other special interest crap, jobs, jobs, jobs!!!
- Tom, Manchester

John in Dover-

Found it!!!

Separation of 'Church and State' comes from a correspondence
between Jefferson and Baptist ministers in Danbury, CT- however,
article eleven of the Treaty of Tripoli may be a surprising
revelation for you.
- Rob Fitz, Lebanon

If you care so much about what your god thinks, why don't you
work on your own relationships instead of whining about this
stuff. The divorce rate in this majority Christian nation is
deplorable.

If your god really exists, you aren't going to be much better
off than the homosexuals if you are to be judged like your book
says.
- Jesse, Hill

I hope that all the antis noticed that the sun rose as usual
this morning.
- LJC, Manchester

When did we allow people to vote on civil rights? Did we allow
people to vote on whether schools should be racially integrated?
Did we allow people to vote on whether marriage between a person
of color and a white person should be forbidden?

In the state of NH (and any other state), marriage is regulated
as a civil proceeding, not a religious proceeding. Why exactly
do people feel that they have the right to vote to control the
civil rights of anyone??

If churches don't want to permit gay marriage within their
walls, fine.
For those who believe that allowing same-sex couples to marry
will somehow destroy the "sanctity" of marriage, I think
straight couples are doing that pretty darn well on their own.
- Mari, Bedford

Since the state of NH has redefine marriage, I also have the
right to be happy. I want the right to have two (or maybe three)
wives!

If we are going to open the door, why not swing it wide open?

Where are my rights: I want to be happy as well!!!
- Joseph OBrien, Manchester, NH

While I understand that some may think this conflicts with their
religious beliefs I wonder how it really affects their lives.
This is being recognized by the State of NH not your church. I
have the privilege of knowing several gays and lesbians. I find
that they tend to be more educated, compassionate, impassioned,
hard working contributing members of society than what I truly
want to protect my children from. Shouldn't you feel more
threatened by gangbangers, drug addicts robbing you or drivers
texting for instance? I believe my families lives stand a much
greater chance of being negatively impacted by one of those
things as opposed to seeing same sex couples holding hands at
the mall. I think part of the problem is many view this simply
as a sexual matter. Well, to be honest, I'd have no more desire
to witness most opposite sex couples in this way. Keep hiding
yourselves behind God and your shallow thinking cocoons.
- JW33, Chester

Chris Rock said it best (on gay marriage), "Gay people have just
as much right to be miserable as any of the rest of us". lol
- Megan, Dover

Congratulations to the new civilly married citizens of New
Hampshire. 25 years from people will wonder what all the fuss
was about. This is a civil matter, not subject to a popular vote
in New Hampshire. Time to move-on.
- MJE, Warner

I want the right to vote in and for my State. I have a brain and
a voice and I am tired of paying Politicians to abuse their
power and claiming that's what "We The People" want. I would
like to know how much this so call marriage cost us taxpayers
when they have no new rights.
- dnl62, Derry

John in Dover: Thomas Jefferson (you may have heard of him; then
again�) used the phrase "wall of separation between church and
state� in an 1802 letter regarding religious freedom. It�s not
something made up by anyone other than Jefferson.

Gail Gentry: �Live your life but you live with the choices you
make in your life and in the end it will be between you and
God.� Exactly. So why are you in favor of imposing YOUR
interpretation of God�s will on everybody else? I, too, remember
all the things you recall in your post. And I have been active
in the fight for glbt civil rights for well over twenty years.
The state has not taken away your (or my�I�m a woman married to
a man) rights in any way whatsoever. Your post reminds me of a
line from �To Kill a Mockingbird�: �The Bible in the hand of
some men is worse than a whiskey bottle in the hand of
[another.]�There are just some men who are so worried about the
next world that they�ve never learned to live in this one.�

My felicitations to all the newlyweds; marriage is not for the
fainthearted, but the rewards are immeasurable!!
- Penny Culliton, Temple

Hey TRACEY in Hamstead -- Yuppers, lets hopt they all go about
"creating new families"!! Hmm, the last time I looked it took a
man and a woman to do that. Well, of course they can adopt but
they will be having so much more fun trying to create and while
they are at it spreading STD's (should we bring up dirty
needles?) since the statistics show just where the majority of
the STD's are being spread. Then they can take their "creations"
to the emergency wards across the State and DEMAND equal
treatment cause they are married.

Sorry state of affairs and guess who winds up paying for all
this crap "our" legislators pass into law!! Hope everyone
remembers just how well our State controlers have done since the
last election and just how much this State has improved and how
we all are so much better off.

Hey Thanks to our newest Senator for bringing home all the pork
that some "wiser" legislators held out for and got for thie
States. Jean, your hands should be sore from all the sitting on
them you have been doing!
- aber, swanzey

People posting comments here should be ashamed of themselves at
just how ignorant and pre-historic they sound.

Quotes from the bible dont do any good, not everyone follows the
bible or any religious texts at all, and you cant fight back
with the argument that our country was founded on that religion
because i beg to differ. Our country was founded on strict
puritanical beliefs that would have just about every
contemporary religious person burning.

It's time to get with the times and im glad NH has followed
suit. It makes us look smarter than the rest of the country and
it makes me proud to live here.

As to all those who ask when a public vote be taken.... how
about we all get to vote on YOUR rights and freedoms to live and
marry whom you choose.

And lastly to the comment about teaching your children that
homosexuality is wrong, this is a proven cause for suicide in
gay teens. Whether you say so or not, if your child is gay they
will ALWAYS be gay. If you would like to make your child feel
ostracized than your sick and have no right to be a parent.
Teaching hate is just as much child abuse as physical harm.
- Joshua, Manchester

You can call a couch a lamp, but it still remains a couch.
Marriage is just that, between one man and one woman despite
this new law. Civil Unions apparently weren't good enough.
- Bill F, Nashua

Okay, great they got gay marriage bill passed. Now where are the
solutions they should have been working on instead that bring
jobs and stimulate New Hampshire's economy? We might as well
change our state name to "New Massachusetts".
- Susan Grey, Goffstown, NH

BE-VA

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Jan 2, 2010, 10:28:16 PM1/2/10
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 05:33:57 -0500, Democrat Waste Of Your Money wrote
(in article <2V8EA7LI4018...@reece.net.au>):

(...)

> In the recent division in the Anglican Church over homosexuality
> and ordination, several bishops made the fatuous point that
> homosexuality is "unnatural" because it does not occur in other
> species. Leaving aside the fundamental absurdity of this
> observation: are humans part of "nature" or not? Or if they
> chance to be homosexual, are they created in god's image or not?
> Leave aside the well-attested fact that numberless kinds of
> birds and mammals and primates do engage in homosexual play.
> Homosexuality is present in all societies, and its incidence
> would appear to be part of human "design."

(...)

Except that homosexuality serves no useful purpose in the scheme of
mankind. Homosexuality could vanish from the earth in the next instant and
it would have no impact what so ever on the future of mankind. would you
say the same of heterosexuality?As far as the comparison of animal behavior
and that of mankind be very careful when you try to do that. I know of no
human society that eats its young.

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