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May 8, 2008, 1:44:36 PM5/8/08
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Marie Osmond: Billy Ray to Blame for Miley Photos
By Stephen M. Silverman
Originally posted Thursday May 08, 2008 01:15 PM EDT

Like most everyone else, Marie Osmond has an opinion of the Miley Cyrus
photos for Vanity Fair. And it's not positive.

What particularly upsets the entertainer (who is herself a mother), is that
such an experienced showbiz parent as Miley's dad, Billy Ray Cyrus, would
leave his 15-year-old alone during a photo shoot.

"My parents never, never left us alone," Osmond, 48, tells AOL Television.
"We always had some form of a guardian or something with us, a guardian that
would represent what they would have done."

In Miley's case, says Osmond, "her dad stepped out, and that's when it
happened. How do you say no to somebody like Annie [Leibovitz, the
photographer] when you're a little girl? It's an interesting thing that
happened with her."

In actuality, Miley's grandmother and teacher remained with the photo
subject, as Billy Ray was called away to a business appointment, a source
close to the family told PEOPLE - adding: "Billy Ray was not there for the
shot. He would not have approved that shot if he was."

Once the photos became public, Miley Cyrus apologized to fans, while
Leibovitz said she was sorry the photos were misinterpreted.

Pressures on Young Stars

Having been on stage as both a youngster and adult, Osmond also weighs in
with her opinion of young stars today and any additional pressures they may
face.

"I think it's a multitude of things," she says. "I can only speak for
myself, but . I was blessed, because [with Olive Osmond] I had the perfect
stage mom. She was there for every stage of my life."

Once again expressing her disapproval of what Billy Ray Cyrus did - and
didn't do - regarding the Miley situation, Osmond concludes, "I think, if
your kids are going to be in that kind of business, then you need to make it
your business to be there for them and help them figure out, but not
necessarily to control them."


mr l

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May 8, 2008, 1:59:04 PM5/8/08
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> In actuality, Miley's grandmother and teacher remained with the
photo

Isn't Marie Osmonds 15 minutes over?

On May 8, 10:44 am, "edonline" <edonlineSPAMO...@comcast.net> wrote:
> http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20198584,00.html?xid=rss-toph...

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Nancy2

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May 8, 2008, 3:29:18 PM5/8/08
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On May 8, 1:11 pm, It's the Principle!
<brandy...@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote:
> In article <dLudnQJ0wdCfob7VnZ2dnUVZ_ommn...@giganews.com>, edonline says...
>
>
>
> >http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20198584,00.html?xid=rss-toph...
> She's got a point. It's not after you find out some people don't like it that
> you decide it wasn't appropriate. It's when the photographer says, "Slip off
> your bra, no one will notice." that the red flag is raised and you say no.
>
> --
> Brandy Alexandre
>
> -- "Huh?"

Big whoop. It's a tempest in a teapot. She shows more skin on stage
during her tour shows. Her family was right there, making sure she
wasn't abused. And I'm sure Annie Liebovitz didn't say any such
thing, she's a very classy professional photographer, much in demand
by VIPs from all walks of life. Miley did decide after people
criticized her, to say it wasn't a good idea after all. If nobody had
made any comments, she wouldn't have said a thing. People need to get
their own lives in order. At least Miley's parents AREN'T DIVORCED,
are they, Marie?

N.

Marianna

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May 8, 2008, 4:33:21 PM5/8/08
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(the original item, snipped)

> > >Once again expressing her disapproval of what Billy Ray Cyrus did - and
> > >didn't do - regarding the Miley situation, Osmond concludes, "I think, if
> > >your kids are going to be in that kind of business, then you need to make it
> > >your business to be there for them and help them figure out, but not
> > >necessarily to control them."

brandy:


> > She's got a point.  It's not after you find out some people don't like it that
> > you decide it wasn't appropriate.  It's when the photographer says, "Slip off
> > your bra, no one will notice." that the red flag is raised and you say no.


nancy2 wrote:
> Big whoop.  It's a tempest in a teapot.  She shows more skin on stage
> during her tour shows.  Her family was right there, making sure she
> wasn't abused.  And I'm sure Annie Liebovitz didn't say any such
> thing, she's a very classy professional photographer, much in demand
> by VIPs from all walks of life.

Would you have stepped out of the room if Robert Mapplethorpe, who was
a professional photographer in demand by VIP's, was photographing your
underage child? I sure as shit wouldn't. I've heard Leibovitz
described as "edgy" and the sort of person who "likes to push the
envelope". If I was truly concerned about my kid, I wouldn't have left
her more-or-less alone at a photo shoot under those circumstances. But
if what you want is controversial pics to jack up your kid's publicity/
marketability but still preserve plausible deniability in case there's
a outcry afterwards, then you would, I guess.

> Miley did decide after people
> criticized her, to say it wasn't a good idea after all.  If nobody had
> made any comments, she wouldn't have said a thing.  People need to get
> their own lives in order.  At least Miley's parents AREN'T DIVORCED,
> are they, Marie?

Getting divorced is a bigger sin than pimping out your 15 yr-old
daughter? Get a grip, lady.

Marianna

doomella

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May 8, 2008, 5:13:16 PM5/8/08
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"Marianna" <nomiddle...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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(the original item, snipped)

Would you have stepped out of the room if Robert Mapplethorpe, who was
a professional photographer in demand by VIP's, was photographing your
underage child? I sure as shit wouldn't.

-----------------------

Absolutely! If we were still alive I'd be thrilled if he did. Mapplethorpe
had no prurient interest in kids whatsoever. He was commissioned to do
several portraits of kids. You might have reason to worry if your kid was a
sculpted gay black man with a 13-inch penis who was heavily into bondage and
coprophilia, but then what would you be worried about? Larry Clark on the
other hand....

I can't believe all the outrage over this photo shoot. In the '70s Jodie
Foster plated a child hooker and Brooke Shields was doing much, much racier
stuff (at a much younger age) and everybody took it in stride and neither
one of them was traumatized by any of it.

The only obscene thing about that Vanity Fair shoot is the enormous amount
of publicity it's getting.

MC

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May 8, 2008, 5:33:53 PM5/8/08
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In article <48236cd3$0$30162$4c36...@roadrunner.com>,
"doomella" <doome...@gmail.com> wrote:

It's all a big piece of manufactured outrage designed to sell magazines
-- and they knew it would work because the climate is such that a hyell
of a lot of people (people highly unlikely to buy Vanity Fair,
incidentally) would hit the roof and publicize the magazinefor them.

If I had a kid and Annie Leibovitz wanted to photograph her I would
absolutely want to be there -- to see an artist at the top of her game
in action.

Same goes for Mapplethorpe. And Cindy Sherman. And Jeff Koons. And those
French guys who do the kitschy gay stuff.

>
> The only obscene thing about that Vanity Fair shoot is the enormous amount
> of publicity it's getting.

I'm thinking that if Mily is upset it's because the shot is far from
Leibovitz's bestwork and it makes her look drab and ordinary.

mary...@rcn.com

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May 8, 2008, 5:37:49 PM5/8/08
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On May 8, 5:13 pm, "doomella" <doomell...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Marianna" <nomiddleinitia...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

All of the above - plus young Miss Cyrus seems to have a really good
head on her shoulders, and a really good and solid family foundation
and work ethic. Also, in the photos she looked more a lot like a
junior Greek goddess - with the lovely draped fabric - than anything
else. Bringing up the early Jodie Foster and Brooke Shields pics was
a perfect contrast - *this* girl wasn't photographed in a tacky,
salacious way - she was photographed beautifully, in a timeless way.

PUSSS...@aol.com

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May 8, 2008, 6:07:27 PM5/8/08
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First of all, Marie is hardly a good 'mother' role model. And
secondly, the photo of Miley with her father was the one that creeped
me out the most...it was just...wrong.

Billie

doomella

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May 8, 2008, 6:15:17 PM5/8/08
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No kidding. Eww.
Have you seen the uncensored footage of the shoot?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNhMExuWQMk

MC

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May 8, 2008, 7:09:14 PM5/8/08
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In article
<d93bddf2-3059-4f0e...@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
doomella <Doome...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Have you seen the uncensored footage of the shoot?

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNhMExuWQMk

Oh, fuck... that is hilarious!

Big J

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Anne's nose job looks great!

Big J

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"edonline" <edonlineSPAMOUT!@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I guess I jsut do not see what the big deal was with the photo. It ...it was
just her back!!


doomella

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May 8, 2008, 11:01:49 PM5/8/08
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> Marie Osmond: Billy Ray to Blame for Miley Photos
> By Stephen M. Silverman
> Originally posted Thursday May 08, 2008 01:15 PM EDT
>
> Like most everyone else, Marie Osmond has an opinion of the Miley Cyrus
> photos for Vanity Fair. And it's not positive.
>
> What particularly upsets the entertainer (who is herself a mother), is that
> such an experienced showbiz parent as Miley's dad, Billy Ray Cyrus, would
> leave his 15-year-old alone during a photo shoot.

Perhaps the holy Marie should spend less time pontificating about some
inocuous photo shoot and more time worrying about her own seriously
drug-addicted kid, or feigning dramatic fainting spells.

tee...@comcast.net

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May 8, 2008, 11:23:18 PM5/8/08
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Of course Marie Osmond will be debuting her "Miley Cyrus Vanity Fair
Doll" in the near future.

And even though Achy Breaky Heart didn't trip my trigger, I live in
Nashville and have worked in the music biz, and never have heard bad
things about Billy Ray Cyrus. My nieces went to school with Miley's
sister, and MY sister held Miley as a child. Tish and Billy Ray have
been spot-on with their parenting, for the most part.

Don't get me wrong, I've also worked with Marie Osmond, even dating
back to MY cousin staying with the Osmonds in Utah, trading recipes
with Mom Osmond. I just believe she's wrong about this and I think
everyone should LEAVE MILEY ALONE.

Just my view.

Agent Smith

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"LJ" <lj...@lsouth.net> wrote in
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She was naked and making a sexy pose. Sheesh.

Agent Smith

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"edonline" <edonlineSPAMOUT!@comcast.net> wrote in
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> http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20198584,00.html?xid=rss-
tophea
> dlines

Marie's got no business talking.

sallyd

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May 9, 2008, 8:00:36 AM5/9/08
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On May 9, 5:16 am, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
left.com> wrote:
> "edonline" <edonlineSPAMO...@comcast.net> wrote innews:dLudnQJ0wdCfob7V...@giganews.com:

Agreed! Miley showed her back.....while Marie's son, who is what one
or two years older than Miley, was checked into rehab while Marie
pranced around on DWTS.

LJ

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"Agent Smith" <agent...@two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote in message
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Naked?? Really?? She sure looked like she was at the very least covered with
a sheet---no idea what was underneath....all I saw was a back! In fact, I've
seen worse, much worse, going to the mall or going in school doors!


Nancy2

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May 9, 2008, 10:53:16 AM5/9/08
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She was chaperoned by HER GRANDMOTHER - that isn't good enough for
you? I wouldn't call it "pimped," and Mapplethorpe is certainly not
the same kind of photographer that Annie L. is. Miley certainly has an
advantage over Marie's kids, having a stable, grounded family life.
You should get a grip. What, you're jealous of Miley's success?

N.

CliffB

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May 9, 2008, 12:13:26 PM5/9/08
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On May 9, 8:52 am, "LJ" <l...@lsouth.net> wrote:
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> > > "edonline" <edonlineSPAMO...@comcast.net> wrote in message

Disney does have a history of turning out trampy 'hos. She's just
following in a long line and tradition (all the way back to that
gamine Minnie.......?)

Agent Smith

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May 9, 2008, 2:02:29 PM5/9/08
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sallyd <sally...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:989cc3b9-540c-439c...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

Actually, nobody has any business talking, because everybody's got the
proverbial logs in their eyes, compared to the motes of dust in other
people's. But Marie has a little less business than some, because she
has sometimes looked pretty bad in the gossip pages, herself. I
remember when she wigged out and ran away from her marriage, and then
ther was the time when she was twenty-one and, in a celebrity interview,
said she was against "fornication." ?:(

Message has been deleted

Will

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"mr l" <Lzry...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > In actuality, Miley's grandmother and teacher remained with the
> photo
>
> Isn't Marie Osmonds 15 minutes over?
>

Maybe so, but she is right. I think that her guardians knew what they were
doing and that the "apology" was ready before the pictures were even made
public.

Anyone with daughters that age, would you feel comfortable seeing that? I
do and I don't.


Nancy2

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May 9, 2008, 3:17:30 PM5/9/08
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> Disney does have a history of turning out trampy 'hos. She's just
> following in a long line and tradition (all the way back to that
> gamine Minnie.......?)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Those "trampy ho's," as you put it are recent, not in Disney's
"history." You're thinking Britny, not Annette.

N.

us...@nospam.nul

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May 9, 2008, 4:52:15 PM5/9/08
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I bet lesbo Annie "fluffed" Miley. If there's grass on the outfield,
batter up.

LJ

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"Agent Smith" <agent...@two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote in message
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> "LJ" <lj...@lsouth.net> wrote in
> news:kNXUj.1304$hv2...@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
> Yup. :)

>
> > She sure looked like she was at the very least
> > covered with a sheet
>
> That's not clothing.

>
> > ---no idea what was underneath....all I saw was a
> > back! In fact, I've seen worse, much worse, going to the mall or going
> > in school doors!
>
> Look at a lot of teen-age nudes, do you? ?:(


She was NOT nude; her back was uncovered!! Why is that so difficult for you
to understand??


Agent Smith

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"LJ" <lj...@lsouth.net> wrote in
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Talking to you is like talking to a wall.

Wyle Coyote ©2008

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May 10, 2008, 9:47:22 AM5/10/08
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On 8 mei, 19:59, mr l <Lzrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > In actuality, Miley's grandmother and teacher remained with the
> photo
>
> Isn't Marie Osmonds 15 minutes over?
>
> > necessarily to control them."- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>
> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

Hey! Marie's got to fill her SUV w/gas too!!!

Wyle Coyote ©2008

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May 10, 2008, 9:49:29 AM5/10/08
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PLEASE!
Another instance of "Little Miss Hollywood Sweetheart" gone bad.
When are you people going to learn????
HOLLYWOOD AIN'T NO GOOD!!!

Wyle Coyote ©2008

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May 10, 2008, 10:03:54 AM5/10/08
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On 8 mei, 23:33, MC <copes...@mapca.inter.net> wrote:
> In article <48236cd3$0$30162$4c368...@roadrunner.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
>  "doomella" <doomell...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > "Marianna" <nomiddleinitia...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> >news:d5700355-ced8-48c6...@24g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> > (the original item, snipped)
>
> > Would you have stepped out of the room if Robert Mapplethorpe, who was
> > a professional photographer in demand by VIP's, was photographing your
> > underage child? I sure as shit wouldn't.
>
> > -----------------------
>
> > Absolutely!  If we were still alive I'd be thrilled if he did.  Mapplethorpe
> > had no prurient interest in kids whatsoever.  He was commissioned to do
> > several portraits of kids. You might have reason to worry if your kid was a
> > sculpted gay black man with a 13-inch penis who was heavily into bondage and
> > coprophilia, but then what would you be worried about?  Larry Clark on the
> > other hand....
>
> > I can't believe all the outrage over this photo shoot. In the '70s Jodie
> > Foster plated a child hooker and Brooke Shields was doing much, much racier
> > stuff (at a much younger age) and everybody took it in stride and neither
> > one of them was traumatized by any of it.
>
> It's all a big piece of manufactured outrage designed to sell magazines
> -- and they knew it would work because the climate is such that a hyell
> of a lot of people (people highly unlikely to buy Vanity Fair,
> incidentally) would hit the roof and publicize the magazinefor them.

When are they gonna learn money isn't a cure all?
If so, why is the U.S. dollar declining in a money hungry nation like
the USA?
TRY AGAIN!

http://www.landro.be/threedaugters/marilynmonroe/N86%20Marylin%20Monroe.jpg

MC

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May 10, 2008, 11:32:00 AM5/10/08
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In article
<4d2ec02d-510d-428b...@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,

Wyle Coyote ©2008 <wylec...@post.com> wrote:

> When are they gonna learn money isn't a cure all?
> If so, why is the U.S. dollar declining in a money hungry nation like
> the USA?

All kinds of reasons that have NOTHING to do with the subject under
discussion or with your question. Currency fluctuations are driven by a
zillion factors, foreign and domestic. And they are not permanent.
That's why they're called fluctuations.

MC

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In article
<40301603-3f0d-439e...@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,

Wyle Coyote ©2008 <wylec...@post.com> wrote:

Define "Hollywood" please.

When many people use the word they seem to be of the opinion that is
some vast conspiratorial and monolithic entity that thinks with one
mind.

Not so.

Wyle Coyote ©2008

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May 10, 2008, 2:13:24 PM5/10/08
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On May 10, 5:32 pm, MC <copes...@mapca.inter.net> wrote:
> In article
> <4d2ec02d-510d-428b-b403-75e7366d4...@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,

>  Wyle Coyote ©2008 <wylecoy...@post.com> wrote:
>
> > When are they gonna learn money isn't a cure all?
> > If so, why is the U.S. dollar declining in a money hungry nation like
> > the USA?
>
> All kinds of reasons that have NOTHING to do with the subject under
> discussion or with your question. Currency fluctuations are driven by a
> zillion factors, foreign and domestic. And they are not permanent.
> That's why they're called fluctuations.

Wonderful.
Just got out of gradeschool and ya have the answers to everything.
We've seen you before on the net. The guy w/all the answers but not a
clue.

Wyle Coyote ©2008

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May 10, 2008, 2:16:14 PM5/10/08
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On May 10, 5:33 pm, MC <copes...@mapca.inter.net> wrote:
> In article
> <40301603-3f0d-439e-91a2-c5c58a352...@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,

>  Wyle Coyote ©2008 <wylecoy...@post.com> wrote:
>
> > PLEASE!
> > Another instance of "Little Miss Hollywood Sweetheart" gone bad.
> > When are you people going to learn????
> > HOLLYWOOD AIN'T NO GOOD!!!
>
> Define "Hollywood" please.
>
> When many people use the word they seem to be of the opinion that is
> some vast conspiratorial and monolithic entity that thinks with one
> mind.
>
> Not so.

Hollywood: The media; Art & athletic celebrity figures.
They're all connected and party together.

MC

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May 10, 2008, 3:21:06 PM5/10/08
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In article
<5179aaec-0e1d-4a2a...@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,

Wyle Coyote ©2008 <wylec...@post.com> wrote:

A conspiracy, then. Who's in charge?

MC

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In article
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Wyle Coyote ©2008 <wylec...@post.com> wrote:

And we've seen you, too.

mc

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On May 8, 1:59 pm, mr l <Lzrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > In actuality, Miley's grandmother and teacher remained with the
> photo
>
> Isn't Marie Osmonds 15 minutes over?

I thought Billy Ray's were.

mc

mc

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> > > "edonline" <edonlineSPAMO...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> seen worse, much worse, going to the mall or going in school doors!- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

So of course that makes it ok.

mc

pinky

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"Wyle Coyote ©2008" <wylec...@post.com> wrote in message
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Hollywood: The media; Art & athletic celebrity figures.
They're all connected and party together.

___________________________________________________

What you meant to say was "Hollywood" is a euphemism for the entertainment
industry, known for its amoral culture. Every industry has its own cultural
standards.

pink


Regis....@gmail.com

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> "Marianna" <nomiddleinitia...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d5700355-ced8-48c6...@24g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> (the original item, snipped)

>


> I can't believe all the outrage over this photo shoot. In the '70s Jodie
> Foster plated a child hooker and Brooke Shields was doing much, much racier
> stuff (at a much younger age) and everybody took it in stride and neither
> one of them was traumatized by any of it.

As I recall there was quite a bit of public outrage and gnashing of
teeth over the Brooke Shields movie. You're right though they seem to
be ok now. By Hollywood standards anyway.

I personally don't buy this whole theory that it's some Machiavellian
plot to generate publicity. Both Miley and the magazine appear to be
doing quite well without it. I figure it's mostly a bunch of people
with way too much spare time on their hands. They've got nothing
better to do than go out and find something to get upset about.

Wyle Coyote ©2008

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On 10 mei, 21:21, MC <copes...@mapca.inter.net> wrote:
> In article
> <fced40cf-bfaa-4647-b692-f574a5dcc...@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,

>  Wyle Coyote ©2008 <wylecoy...@post.com> wrote:
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> > On May 10, 5:32 pm, MC <copes...@mapca.inter.net> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <4d2ec02d-510d-428b-b403-75e7366d4...@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> > >  Wyle Coyote ©2008 <wylecoy...@post.com> wrote:
>
> > > > When are they gonna learn money isn't a cure all?
> > > > If so, why is the U.S. dollar declining in a money hungry nation like
> > > > the USA?
>
> > > All kinds of reasons that have NOTHING to do with the subject under
> > > discussion or with your question. Currency fluctuations are driven by a
> > > zillion factors, foreign and domestic. And they are not permanent.
> > > That's why they're called fluctuations.
>
> > Wonderful.
> > Just got out of gradeschool and ya have the answers to everything.
> > We've seen you before on the net.  The guy w/all the answers but not a
> > clue.
>
> And we've seen you, too.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -

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> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

How could you?
I never signed a release for those photographs!!!

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