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Bawana

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Mar 26, 2007, 7:47:37 AM3/26/07
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March 26, 2007
Gore's Faith Is Bad Science
By Michael Barone

Al Gore likes to present himself as a tribune of science, warning the
world of imminent danger. But he is more like an Old Testament
prophet, calling on us to bewail our wrongful conduct and to go and
sin no more.

He starts off with the science. The world's climate, he reports, is
getting warmer. This accurate report is, however, not set in historic
context. World climate has grown warmer and cooler at various times in
history. Climate change is not some unique historic event. It is the
way the world works.

Not this time, Gore says. What's different is that climate change is
being driven by human activity -- to wit, increasing carbon dioxide
emissions. Which means, he says, that we have to sharply reduce those
emissions. But what the scientists tell us is that some proportion of
climate change is caused by human activity and some proportion by
natural causes -- and that they can only estimate what those
proportions are. The estimates they have produced have varied sharply.
The climate change models that have been developed don't account for
events of the recent past, much less predict with precision events in
the future.

To which the prophet replies, with religious intensity, that all
debate should be over. Those scientists with inconvenient views should
be defunded and silenced. We should replace scientific inquiry with
faith. We should have faith that climate change -- "global warming" --
is caused primarily by human activity. And we should have faith that
the effects will be catastrophic, with rising oceans flooding great
cities and pleasant plains and forests broiled by a searing sun.

Even The New York Times bridles at this. After Gore won the Academy
Award for his film on climate change, the Times printed an article in
which respected scientists -- not Republicans, not on oil company
payrolls -- charged that Gore has vastly exaggerated the likelihood of
catastrophic effects.

When you read the fine print of even the scientific reports that Gore
likes to cite, you find the same thing. Gore foresees a 20-foot rise
in sea level -- 240 inches. The IPCC panel report foresees a maximum
of 23 inches. Gore says that "our civilization has never experienced
any environmental shift remotely similar to this." Geologist Don
Easterbrook says there have been shifts up to "20 times greater than
the warming in the past century."

Science says that we should learn more about possible bad effects of
climate change and calculate rationally how we can mitigate them. As
the economic journalist Robert Samuelson points out, there is little
that we can feasibly do in the short term to reduce carbon emissions,
though over the long term we may be able to develop substitutes for
carbon fuels.

As the environmentalist Bjorn Lomberg points out, the Kyoto Treaty
that Gore helped to write (but which the Clinton administration never
asked the Senate to ratify) would produce very little reduction in
climate change at very high cost.

But religious prophets are not concerned about costs. Gore calls for
an immediate cessation of new carbon-burning facilities. In other
words, stop economic growth. But stopping economic growth in the
developing world means consigning millions to miserable poverty. And
we know what stopping economic growth in the developed world can mean.

Read the history of the 1930s: fascism, communism, world war. There
are worse things than a rise of 1 or 2 degrees Centigrade.

The natural human yearning for spirituality has produced in many
people educated in secular-minded universities and enveloped in an
atmosphere of contempt for traditional religion a faith that we vulgar
human beings have a sacred obligation not to inflict damage on Mother
Earth. But science tells us that the Earth and its climate have been
constantly changing.

Gore and his followers seem to assume that the ideal climate was the
one they got used to when they were growing up. When temperatures
dropped in the 1970s, there were warnings of an impending ice age.
When they rose in the 1990s, there were predictions of disastrous
global warming. This is just another example of the solipsism of the
baby boom generation, the pampered and much-praised age cohort that
believes the world revolves around them and that all past history has
become irrelevant.

We're told in effect that the climate of the late 1950s and early
1960s was, of all those that have ever existed, the best of all
possible climates. Not by science. But as a matter of faith.

Copyright 2007 Creators Syndicate Inc.
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at March 26, 2007 - 05:45:40 AM CST

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Roger Coppock

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Mar 26, 2007, 3:03:13 PM3/26/07
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Bawana has an obsession with Al Gore.

> Copyright 2007 Creators Syndicate Inc.

Also, he gets his opinions from experts at
producing sham science, creationists.

Lloyd

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Mar 26, 2007, 3:20:20 PM3/26/07
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Well, we should look at the data and the scientific principles rather
than shouting "Is not" like you denialists do.

>And we should have faith that
> the effects will be catastrophic, with rising oceans flooding great
> cities and pleasant plains and forests broiled by a searing sun.
>
> Even The New York Times bridles at this. After Gore won the Academy
> Award for his film on climate change, the Times printed an article in
> which respected scientists -- not Republicans, not on oil company
> payrolls -- charged that Gore has vastly exaggerated the likelihood of
> catastrophic effects.
>

But NOT that GW is occurring and humans are responsible -- why didn't
you mention that?

> When you read the fine print of even the scientific reports that Gore
> likes to cite, you find the same thing. Gore foresees a 20-foot rise
> in sea level -- 240 inches. The IPCC panel report foresees a maximum
> of 23 inches.

Depends. In the news today:

"That's true, strictly speaking. The U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on
Climate Change recently projected a sea-level rise of between 7 and 23
inches by 2100 - a far cry from 20 feet. But those projections
explicitly omit any consideration of melting in Antarctica and
Greenland, citing the lack of reliable scientific knowledge on the
topic.

Yes, it's true: There are some things about global warming that
scientists don't understand. But Alley, who has a doctoral degree is
in geology, was willing to offer some educated speculation.

"I don't think anyone has come up with anything that would allow you
to lose a whole ice sheet in decades," he said.

But, he added, global temperatures could easily be warm enough by 2100
to make the collapse of one or both ice caps an inevitability at some
point after that.

So while its true that our children needn't worry about catastrophic
sea level rise, our grandchildren and great-grandchildren may not be
so lucky."

>Gore says that "our civilization has never experienced
> any environmental shift remotely similar to this." Geologist Don
> Easterbrook says there have been shifts up to "20 times greater than
> the warming in the past century."
>

He's lying. Or you are.

> Science says that we should learn more about possible bad effects of
> climate change and calculate rationally how we can mitigate them. As
> the economic journalist Robert Samuelson points out, there is little
> that we can feasibly do in the short term to reduce carbon emissions,
> though over the long term we may be able to develop substitutes for
> carbon fuels.
>
> As the environmentalist Bjorn Lomberg points out, the Kyoto Treaty
> that Gore helped to write (but which the Clinton administration never
> asked the Senate to ratify) would produce very little reduction in
> climate change at very high cost.
>

He's not a scientist, is he? (Hint: No.)

> But religious prophets are not concerned about costs. Gore calls for
> an immediate cessation of new carbon-burning facilities. In other
> words, stop economic growth. But stopping economic growth in the
> developing world means consigning millions to miserable poverty. And
> we know what stopping economic growth in the developed world can mean.
>
> Read the history of the 1930s: fascism, communism, world war. There
> are worse things than a rise of 1 or 2 degrees Centigrade.
>

Yeah, and you're one of them.

> The natural human yearning for spirituality has produced in many
> people educated in secular-minded universities and enveloped in an
> atmosphere of contempt for traditional religion a faith that we vulgar
> human beings have a sacred obligation not to inflict damage on Mother
> Earth. But science tells us that the Earth and its climate have been
> constantly changing.
>
> Gore and his followers seem to assume that the ideal climate was the
> one they got used to when they were growing up. When temperatures
> dropped in the 1970s, there were warnings of an impending ice age.
> When they rose in the 1990s, there were predictions of disastrous
> global warming. This is just another example of the solipsism of the
> baby boom generation, the pampered and much-praised age cohort that
> believes the world revolves around them and that all past history has
> become irrelevant.
>
> We're told in effect that the climate of the late 1950s and early
> 1960s was, of all those that have ever existed, the best of all
> possible climates. Not by science. But as a matter of faith.
>
> Copyright 2007 Creators Syndicate Inc.

> Page Printed from:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/03/gores_faith_is_bad_...


> at March 26, 2007 - 05:45:40 AM CST

Sounds like James has found another scientific source here!

Bawana

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Mar 26, 2007, 5:12:46 PM3/26/07
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> Well, we should look at the data and the scientific principles ...

We have, lardass.
Like you,Tturd Packer, it lacks credibility.

Come back and squalk at us when you perform your first successful
experiment altering the global climate.

Or when you drop 20 lbs.

mitch

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Mar 26, 2007, 7:44:55 PM3/26/07
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"kT" <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote in message news:8OQNh.12$JR...@newsfe03.lga...
>
> So, where's you science to refute his science?

My God, he's a foreigner!

mitch

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Mar 26, 2007, 7:47:54 PM3/26/07
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"Bawana" <mrbaw...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1174909657.1...@l75g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> March 26, 2007
> Gore's Faith Is Bad Science
> By Michael Barone

[snip copyrighted material]

> Copyright 2007 Creators Syndicate Inc.
> Page Printed from: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/03/gores_faith_is_bad_science.html
> at March 26, 2007 - 05:45:40 AM CST

What part of copyright don't you understand?

GOP 4th Reich Microscopic Brains

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Mar 26, 2007, 7:41:37 PM3/26/07
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James

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Mar 26, 2007, 9:15:07 PM3/26/07
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"Roger Coppock" <rcop...@adnc.com> wrote in message
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And you get yours from big Al, a politician.

James

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Mar 26, 2007, 9:18:42 PM3/26/07
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"Lloyd" <lpa...@emory.edu> wrote in message
news:1174936820.0...@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

Yes, Do that Lloyd. You;ll find the data you get is from the Al Gore
replacements in the science agencies of the government where science was
scrapped in favor of environmentalism. Need I say more?


Bawana

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Mar 26, 2007, 9:33:47 PM3/26/07
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On Mar 26, 7:47 pm, "mitch" <impossi...@connection.biz> wrote:

> What part of ...

retarded sockpuppet do you not understand?

Bawana

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Mar 26, 2007, 9:42:15 PM3/26/07
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On Mar 26, 3:03 pm, "Roger Coppock" <rcopp...@adnc.com> wrote:

> Bawana has an obsession with Al Gore.

I have an obsession with the news.
Your high priest is in it lately.
Haven't you noticed, tard?

> > Copyright 2007 Creators Syndicate Inc.
>
> Also, he gets his opinions from experts at
> producing sham science, creationists.

WOW!
Creators Syndicate Inc.= creationists?

Time to get the brain pus drained, Co2pekook.


Roger Coppock

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Mar 26, 2007, 10:23:44 PM3/26/07
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On Mar 26, 6:42 pm, "Bawana" <mrbawan...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[ . . . ]

> WOW!
> Creators Syndicate Inc.= creationists?
>
> Time to get the brain pus drained, Co2pekook.

You are correct. Creators Syndicate is not a
creationist front.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creators_Syndicate

I regret the error.

James

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Mar 26, 2007, 10:34:03 PM3/26/07
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"kT" <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:8OQNh.12$JR...@newsfe03.lga...
> Bawana wrote:
>
>> By Michael Barone
>
> Mr. Barone is a senior writer for U.S. News & World Report and a frequent
> contributor for the Fox News Channel. He is also a non-regular guest
> panelist on the NBC TV program The McLaughlin Group. Barone's stated
> political views are generally conservative. He has said he is not a
> religious believer, although he is sympathetic to and respectful of
> socially conservative religious believers.
>
> Ah, that Michael Barone, the non-religious religion believer.

>
>> Al Gore likes to present himself as a tribune of science, warning the
>> world of imminent danger. But he is more like an Old Testament
>> prophet, calling on us to bewail our wrongful conduct and to go and
>> sin no more.
>>
>> He starts off with the science.
>
> So, where's you science to refute his science?
>
> What, you don't have any? All you've got is some crap about commies and
> socialists? I think I'm going to have to go with the science on this.

So, where's you science to refute his science? Ahh, that KT.

Bawana

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Mar 26, 2007, 10:36:39 PM3/26/07
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On Mar 26, 10:23 pm, "Roger Coppock" <rcopp...@adnc.com> wrote:
> On Mar 26, 6:42 pm, "Bawana" <mrbawan...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> [ . . . ]
>
> > WOW!
> > Creators Syndicate Inc.= creationists?
>
> > Time to get the brain pus drained, Co2pekook.
>
> You are correct. Creators Syndicate is not a
> creationist front.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creators_Syndicate
>
> I regret the error.

Get the brain drained, ya bigoted left-wing tard.

Toxic Meme Germs

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