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Roger Coppock

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Mar 26, 2007, 12:21:44 AM3/26/07
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In an effort to improve the sorry scholarship of fossil
fools on this newsgroup, I strongly suggest this:

http://www.cod.edu/library/research/faq/evalnet.htm

Joe Fischer

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Mar 26, 2007, 4:24:18 AM3/26/07
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On 25 Mar 2007 "Roger Coppock" <rcop...@adnc.com> wrote:

>In an effort to improve the sorry scholarship of fossil
>fools on this newsgroup, I strongly suggest this:

I hope that isn't a url that would brainwash gullible
people to shut out all curiosity and be certain that climate
science is complete and the discussion is over.

The simple process of condensation and
precipitation in the atmosphere is not satisfactorily on
any web site I have visited.
Not one mention have I seen of the thermal
energy involved at some point in the process, or the
change in space occupied.

I both request and challenge anybody to
post a url where I can find a discussion of condensation
and precipitation with the quantity of thermal energy
absorbed or released in the processes.

Failure of the recognition of the quantity of
thermal energy involved can retard an understanding
of the physics involved.

And without the full understanding of the
physics involved, the self regulating mechanisms
of climate will not be appreciated.

Joe Fischer

Carbon Criminal Polluters

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Mar 26, 2007, 4:25:15 AM3/26/07
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matt_sykes

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Mar 26, 2007, 7:37:37 AM3/26/07
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How do you explain the fact that sulphates, by acting on solar
radiation, have more effect than CO2 Roger (1940 to 1975 cooling)?

James

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Mar 26, 2007, 10:46:05 AM3/26/07
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"Roger Coppock" <rcop...@adnc.com> wrote in message
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> In an effort to improve the sorry scholarship of fossil
> fools on this newsgroup, I strongly suggest this:
>
> http://www.cod.edu/library/research/faq/evalnet.htm
>

That exposes your web pages.

Roger Coppock

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Mar 26, 2007, 3:28:10 PM3/26/07
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How do you explain an attempt to hijack a thread
with an off topic post?

neutr...@gmail.com

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Mar 27, 2007, 3:33:52 PM3/27/07
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Same reason that magnetism can overcome gravity. Don't ignore gravity.

neutr...@gmail.com

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Mar 27, 2007, 3:39:25 PM3/27/07
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Joe Fischer wrote:
> On 25 Mar 2007 "Roger Coppock" <rcop...@adnc.com> wrote:
>
> >In an effort to improve the sorry scholarship of fossil
> >fools on this newsgroup, I strongly suggest this:
>
> I hope that isn't a url that would brainwash gullible
> people to shut out all curiosity and be certain that climate
> science is complete and the discussion is over.

Perhaps if you actually looked at the site, you wouldn't have had to
ask. The page is about evaluating websites with an eye to academic
research. There is one link from the page relating to global warming,
and it's used as an example of "Accuracy", since it references its
sources and provides supporting evidence.

Insignificant Flyspecks

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Mar 27, 2007, 4:34:13 PM3/27/07
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Insignificant Flyspecks

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Mar 27, 2007, 4:34:29 PM3/27/07
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Joe Fischer

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Mar 27, 2007, 7:29:43 PM3/27/07
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On 27 Mar 2007 12:39:25 -0700, neutr...@gmail.com wrote:

>Joe Fischer wrote:
>> On 25 Mar 2007 "Roger Coppock" <rcop...@adnc.com> wrote:
>> >In an effort to improve the sorry scholarship of fossil
>> >fools on this newsgroup, I strongly suggest this:
>>
>> I hope that isn't a url that would brainwash gullible
>> people to shut out all curiosity and be certain that climate
>> science is complete and the discussion is over.
>
>Perhaps if you actually looked at the site, you wouldn't have had to
>ask.

When a person uses a demeaning nickname
for anybody who questions his agenda and states that
their "scholarship" is "sorry", he can pound salt.

>The page is about evaluating websites with an eye to academic
>research.

So read it, I can find my own, without somebody
who dumps on religion and will not even consider that
the IPCC report is out of line with horror stories and
predictions of weather and even natural disasters
a hundred or a thousand years in the future, is faulty.

>There is one link from the page relating to global warming,

There are millions of links relating to global
warming, some are scientific and worth reading.

>and it's used as an example of "Accuracy", since it references its
>sources and provides supporting evidence.

Good, then better give some money to some
bunko artist if you want to save the planet before it
goes in the furnace. Wait a minute, isn't that
what is supposed to be what happens to people
that sin?

And what is the redemption that will save
them?

Joe Fischer

Exxon Liars & Crooks

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Mar 27, 2007, 6:36:23 PM3/27/07
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On Mar 27, 3:29 pm, Joe Fischer <j...@BigScreenComputers.com> wrote:

> Good, then better give some money to some
> bunko artist if you want to save the planet before it
> goes in the furnace. Wait a minute, isn't that
> what is supposed to be what happens to people
> that sin?
>
> And what is the redemption that will save
> them?
>
> Joe Fischer

Unequivocal, Joe Fischer, "warming of the climate system is
unequivocal"

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1603320,00.html
Warming May Create Climates, Cut Others

Some climates may disappear from Earth entirely, not just from their
current locations, while new climates could develop if the planet
continues to warm, a study says. Such changes would endanger some
plants and animals while providing new opportunities for others, said
John W. Williams, an assistant professor of geography at the
University of Wisconsin, Madison.

Using global change forecasts prepared for the Intergovernmental Panel
on Climate Change, researchers led by Williams used computer models to
estimate how climates in various parts of the world would be affected.
Their findings are being published in this week's online edition of
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The IPCC, representing the world's leading climate scientists,
reported in February that "warming of the climate system is
unequivocal, as is now evident from observation of increases in global
average air and ocean temperatures, widespread melting of snow and ice
and rising global average sea level."

Tropical regions in particular may face unexpected changes,
particularly the rain forests in the Amazon and Indonesia, Williams'
researchers concluded.

This was surprising, Williams said in a telephone interview, since the
tropics tend to have little variation in weather.

But that also means temperature changes of 3 or 4 degrees in these
regions might have more impact than a change of 5 to 8 degrees in a
region that is accustomed to regular changes.

Species living in tropical areas may be less able to adapt, he said,
adding that that is speculative and needs further study.

Areas like the Southeastern United States and the Arabian Peninsula
may also be affected, the researchers said, adding that mountain areas
such as in Peruvian and Colombian Andes and regions such as Siberia
and southern Australia face a risk of climates disappearing
altogether.

That doesn't mean these regions would have no climate at all - rather
their climate would change and the conditions currently in these areas
would not occur elsewhere on Earth.

That would pose a risk to species living in those areas, Williams
observed.

If some regions develop new climates that don't now exist, that might
provide an opportunity for species that live there, Williams said.
"But we can't make a prediction because it's outside our current
experience and outside the experience of these species

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