An alternative theory as to global climate changes
Morpheal
There is a large body of scientific evidence proving that large
changes in climate have occurred during the history of life on Earth.
Cores drilled deep into the Arctic and into the Greenland ice sheet
produced proof that there were time periods when those areas were much
warmer than in recent millennia. The current and most prevalent
hypothesis as to the cause tends to be "greenhouse gases". I suggest
that that theory may be seriously flawed. I suggest instead that the
Earth has undergone very significant climate changes due more to
changes the amount of sunlight. The evidence leans towards the
possibility that more sunlight occurred at the poles at various times
in the Earth's history, than has occurred in more recent times. It is
possible that this phenomenon is recurrent and cyclical, of varying
intensity, and largely independent of "greenhouse gas" effects.
In fact there is ample scientific evidence that significant increases
in particulate matter in the atmosphere invariably cause a lowering of
temperatures. Volcanic eruptions, the impact of extraterrestrial
bodies, large forest fires, and pollutants such as vood and coal
burning, all have been shown to cause reductions in temperature, not
increases. We can look to the historic record as to winter and summer
conditions during the height of the dependence of coal and wood, as
large cities (eg. London, England) grew. Thereare indications of a
shift towards colder, not warmer.
What might be more definitive would be to devise some form of
measurement technique that could be able to determine changes in sun
light energies striking the Earth, at specific geographic locations,
in the fossil and geological record, across a wide expanse of time. I
am not sure how this could be done, but I would suggest that solar
radiation leaves its permanent mark in the record and that we could
reconstruct that record from the geological evidence. Differences in
the amount of solar radiation could potentially accound for periods of
global warming, polar thawing and freezing, quite beyond the less
severe impact of "greenhouse gases" and other environmentally
significant events.
Cheers.
Robert Morpheal
Hamilton, Canada
schoenf...@gmail.com
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Global warming is being caused by the Sun. That's why Mars is melting,
that's why some Jupiter moons are melting.
The Sun has been acting weird lately.
CWatters
"Morpheal" <morp...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1183984120.6...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> I suggest instead that the Earth has undergone very significant
> climate changes due more to changes the amount of sunlight.
http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/climate-change/dn11650
Climate myths: Global warming is down to the Sun, not humans
17:00 16 May 2007
NewScientist.com
Quote:
Direct measurements of solar output since 1978 show a steady rise and fall
over the 11-year sunspot cycle, but no upwards or downward trend .
Similarly, there is no trend in direct measurements of the Sun's ultraviolet
output and in cosmic rays. So for the period for which we have direct,
reliable records, the Earth has warmed dramatically even though there has
been no corresponding rise in any kind of solar activity.
Talk-n-Dog
they had no concept of what or how they could predict or effect it?
even if it is the sun, it's CO2...
With CO2 there would be a "fix" *hope* even if it is false hope, imagine
the chaos and panic if the sun were getting hotter, can you fix it?
Killing and robbing and mayhem, that's what that story would bring, so
forget ever seeing that one in the news.
"ELITES AND LEADERS HANDBOOK ON SURVIVING"
First get the guns, then limit transportation....
Tom
> An alternative theory as to periods of global warming.
>
> There is a large body of scientific evidence proving that large
> changes in climate have occurred during the history of life on Earth.
> Cores drilled deep into the Arctic and into the Greenland ice sheet
> produced proof that there were time periods when those areas were much
> warmer than in recent millennia. The current and most prevalent
> hypothesis as to the cause tends to be "greenhouse gases". I suggest
> that that theory may be seriously flawed. I suggest instead that the
> Earth has undergone very significant climate changes due more to
> changes the amount of sunlight. The evidence leans towards the
> possibility that more sunlight occurred at the poles at various times
> in the Earth's history, than has occurred in more recent times. It is
> possible that this phenomenon is recurrent and cyclical, of varying
> intensity, and largely independent of "greenhouse gas" effects.
You need to explain away the physics of greenhouse gases, you left out
that part And, there is the evidence that the KT asteriod impact
kicked off a greenhouse gas increase that caused global warming. Are
we to believe that the sun just happened to get hotter at just the
right time, creating a
correlation between the greenhouse gas increase and the warming?
And there is a problem of the saw-toothed form of the temperature
changes into and out of the recent glacials. We emerge fast and
return slowly to the lower global temperatures. That pattern is
consistent with greenhouse gas theory. Any idea why the sun would
follow that pattern?
>
> In fact there is ample scientific evidence that significant increases
> in particulate matter in the atmosphere invariably cause a lowering of
> temperatures. Volcanic eruptions, the impact of extraterrestrial
> bodies, large forest fires, and pollutants such as vood and coal
> burning, all have been shown to cause reductions in temperature, not
> increases. We can look to the historic record as to winter and summer
> conditions during the height of the dependence of coal and wood, as
> large cities (eg. London, England) grew. Thereare indications of a
> shift towards colder, not warmer.
Aerosols cause cooling, nothing new there.
Ocean currents play a role in regional cooling and warming.
>
> What might be more definitive would be to devise some form of
> measurement technique that could be able to determine changes in sun
> light energies striking the Earth, at specific geographic locations,
> in the fossil and geological record, across a wide expanse of time. I
> am not sure how this could be done, but I would suggest that solar
> radiation leaves its permanent mark in the record and that we could
> reconstruct that record from the geological evidence. Differences in
> the amount of solar radiation could potentially accound for periods of
> global warming, polar thawing and freezing, quite beyond the less
> severe impact of "greenhouse gases" and other environmentally
> significant events.
How about we look at the record of sun light energies in the recent
period
during which we have the data? Opps, we already did that! Nothing
there to help your theory.
Roger Coppock
Over the last 29 years direct measurement of the Sun's
output has shown no long term growth large enough to
explain the warming of the Earth, only an 11-year cycle
is noticed:
http://www.pmodwrc.ch/pmod.php?topic=tsi/composite/SolarConstant
http://www.terradaily.com/reports/Changes_In_Solar_Brightness_Too_Weak_To_Explain_Global_Warming_999.html
Peter Muehlbauer
"CWatters" <colin....@turnersNOSPAMoak.plus.com> wrote
Babbling idiot.
Take a look at Solanki et al (2004) and compare the diagrams
(Fig. 4 on page 8) with the temperature characteristics.
http://www.umweltluege.de/pdf/solphys-2004.pdf
For easy explanation, I've painted the temperature graph of the
earth (red line) by freehand here:
http://www.umweltluege.de/images/sun_solanki_m.jpg
That's a strong correlation, my friend.
Peter Muehlbauer
Peter Muehlbauer
"Morpheal" <morp...@yahoo.com> wrote
South Africa
http://nzclimatescience.net/images/PDFs/alexander2707.pdf
This study is based on the numerical analysis of the properties of
routinely observed hydrometeorological data which in South Africa alone
is collected at a rate of more than half a million station days per year,
with some records approaching 100 continuous years in length.
The analysis of this data demonstrates an unequivocal synchronous linkage
between these processes in South Africa and elsewhere, and solar
activity.
This confirms observations and reports by others in many countries during
the past 150 years.
It is also shown with a high degree of assurance that there is a synchronous
linkage between the statistically significant, 21-year periodicity in these
processes and the acceleration and deceleration of the sun as it moves
through galactic space.
Despite a diligent search, no evidence could be found of trends in the data
that could be attributed to human activities.
It is essential that this information be accommodated in water resource development and
operation procedures in the years ahead.
Arctic
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2005/2005GL023429.shtml
Abstract
This letter offers new evidence motivating a more serious consideration
of the potential Arctic temperature responses as a consequence of the
decadal, multidecadal and longer-term persistent forcing by the ever-changing
solar irradiance both in terms of total solar irradiance (TSI, i.e., integrated
over all wavelengths) and the related UV irradiance.
The support for such a solar modulator can be minimally derived from the
large (>75%) explained variance for the decadally-smoothed Arctic surface air
temperatures (SATs) by TSI and from the time-frequency structures of the TSI and
Arctic SAT variability as examined by wavelet analyses.
The reconstructed Arctic SAT time series based on the inverse wavelet transform,
which includes decadal (5-15 years) and multidecadal (40-80 years) variations
and a longer-term trend, contains nonstationary but persistent features that
are highly correlated with the Sun's intrinsic magnetic variability especially
on multidecadal time scales.
India, South Africa, Argentinia, Brazil, North Pacific,
Mississippi River, Labrador Sea
http://www.umweltluege.de/pdf/Gamma_Rays_and_Climate.pdf
Abstract
The effects of solar variability on regional climate time series were examined
using a sequence of physical connections between total solar irradiance (TSI)
modulated by galactic cosmic rays (GCRs), and ocean and atmospheric patterns
that affect precipitation and streamflow.
The solar energy reaching the Earth's surface and its oceans is thought to be
controlled through an interaction between TSI and GCRs, which are theorized
to ionize the atmosphere and increase cloud formation and its resultant albedo.
High (low) GCR flux may promote cloudiness (clear skies) and higher (lower) albedo
at the same time that TSI is lowest (highest) in the solar cycle which in turn
creates cooler (warmer) ocean temperature anomalies.
These anomalies have been shown to affect atmospheric flow patterns and ultimately
affect precipitation over the Midwestern United States.
This investigation identified a relation among TSI and geomagnetic index aa (GI-AA),
and streamflow in the Mississippi River Basin for the period 1878-2004.
The GI-AA was used as a proxy for GCRs. The lag time between the solar signal and
streamflow in the Mississippi River at St. Louis, Missouri is approximately 34 years.
The current drought (1999-2007) in the Mississippi River Basin appears to be
caused by a period of lower solar activity that occurred between 1963 and 1977.
There appears to be a solar "fingerprint" that can be detected in climatic time
series in other regions of the world, with each series having a unique lag time
between the solar signal and the hydroclimatic response.
A progression of increasing lag times can be spatially linked to the ocean
conveyor belt, which may transport the solar signal over a time span of
several decades. The lag times for any one region vary slightly and may be linked
to the fluctuations in the velocity of the ocean conveyor belt.
schoenf...@gmail.com
No, you are talking about radiation intensity. I am talking about
fluctuations from "normal" stellar behaviour. More specifically, the
Solar wind has gone crazy. The solar wind is deflecting the cosmic
rays lessening cloud formation thus increasing temperature. The CO2
arises from heated soil. Water vapour, a real green house gas, arises
from heated ocean. The Ham Radio people have been complaining for
quite a few years now about the bizzare communication behaviour. Looks
like the ionosphere was and still is undergoing electromagnetic
disturbance due to Solar wind.
Within the 2008-2012 period, we will have a period of GLOBAL COOLING
as the Solar wind lessens. That will last 30 years.