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gordo

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May 26, 2012, 5:36:52 PM5/26/12
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Skeptic magazine one of my favorites latest issue,deals with being
skeptical about global warming. This issue hardly does justice to
its record of being skeptic . It was sad when I read the articles and
saw that there was little new information that has not been discussed
here . It hardly touches on the hatred that the Merchants of Doubt
have generated.

There were only 42 references and and just a few graphs.So deniers
pick up the latest issue of Skeptic magazine. It did not deal with
the real true blue deniers and the psychology of their strange
behavior and it did not give deniers anything new. Maybe the next
issue.

kym horsell

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May 26, 2012, 5:59:34 PM5/26/12
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On Sunday, May 27, 2012 7:36:52 AM UTC+10, gordo wrote:
> Skeptic magazine one of my favorites latest issue,deals with being
> skeptical about global warming. This issue hardly does justice to
> its record of being skeptic . It was sad when I read the articles and
> saw that there was little new information that has not been discussed
> here . It hardly touches on the hatred that the Merchants of Doubt
> have generated.
...

Well maybe it will encourage them to go out and learn some data analysis,
pick up the data, and run the numbers themselves before they spout off?

...

...

ROTFL.


--
[Why CO2 can not possibly cause GW:]
Do you understand how your heater thermostat maintains a relatively
constant temperature in the face of external forcings from the weather?
-- Bill Ward, 27 Jul 2011

AGWFacts

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May 26, 2012, 10:56:59 PM5/26/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 14:59:34 -0700 (PDT), kym horsell
<kymho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, May 27, 2012 7:36:52 AM UTC+10, gordo wrote:
> > Skeptic magazine one of my favorites latest issue,deals with being
> > skeptical about global warming. This issue hardly does justice to
> > its record of being skeptic . It was sad when I read the articles and
> > saw that there was little new information that has not been discussed
> > here . It hardly touches on the hatred that the Merchants of Doubt
> > have generated.
> ...
>
> Well maybe it will encourage them to go out and learn some data analysis,
> pick up the data, and run the numbers themselves before they spout off?
>
> ...
>
> ...
>
> ROTFL.

Och, that was hilarious! You could make a profession as a
comedian. More! More!


--
"A 'crank' is defined as a man who cannot be turned." --- _Nature_, 8 Nov 1906

James

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May 26, 2012, 11:03:34 PM5/26/12
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"gordo" <grme...@shaw.ca.remove> wrote in message
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You could do what alarmists naturally do. Call them "Denier Magazine".
I'm sure you would feel better.

$27 TRILLION to pay for Kyoto

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May 26, 2012, 11:46:46 PM5/26/12
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On May 26, 5:36 pm, gordo <grmerr...@shaw.ca.remove> wrote:
> Skeptic magazine one of my favorites latest issue,deals with being
> skeptical about  global warming. This    issue hardly does justice to
> its record of being skeptic . It was sad when I read the articles and
> saw that there was little new information that has not been discussed
> here . It hardly touches on the hatred that the Merchants of Doubt
> have generated.
>
> There were only 42 references and and just a few graphs.

Oh dear! Only a few graphs! How WILL you keep the brainwashing going?

JohnM

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May 27, 2012, 2:37:13 AM5/27/12
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Doesn't this lack of content tell us something about actual GW/CC
scepticism, as opposed to the contrived, denialist version?

SunDancer

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May 27, 2012, 5:40:15 AM5/27/12
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gordo wrote :
> Skeptic magazine one of my favorites latest issue,deals with being
> skeptical about global warming. This issue hardly does justice to
> its record of being skeptic . It was sad when I read the articles and
> saw that there was little new information that has not been discussed
> here . It hardly touches on the hatred that the Merchants of Doubt
> have generated.
>

The Times They Are A-Changin...
<http://youtu.be/ultEiK56h9I>

--
The Dawlish : Weather is not climate unless I say it is.


Dawlish

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May 27, 2012, 5:46:56 AM5/27/12
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That is funny. Nice one.

gordo

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May 27, 2012, 1:05:57 PM5/27/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 23:03:34 -0400, "James" <king...@iglou.com>
wrote:
I feel fine . You are called deniers because you are deniers.

Fredric L. Rice

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May 28, 2012, 3:34:58 PM5/28/12
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gordo <grme...@shaw.ca.remove> wrote:
>Skeptic magazine one of my favorites latest issue,deals with being
>skeptical about global warming. This issue hardly does justice to
>its record of being skeptic . It was sad when I read the articles and
>saw that there was little new information that has not been discussed
>here . It hardly touches on the hatred that the Merchants of Doubt
>have generated.

Well, Skeptic Magazine is *not* a peer0-reviewed science journal, it is
tailored toward a general public which generally has very little
background or experience in applying the Scientific Method.

Since you understand some of the science that describes how the climate
is changing, you're bound to be disappointed. Skeptic Magazine isn't
intended to be an academic science journal. :)

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Save us, Obe Won Paul! You're our only hope!

AGWFacts

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May 28, 2012, 4:09:26 PM5/28/12
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Among scientists, the issue was settled decades ago. There are a
few actual skeptics (i.e., not denialists) who have not accepted
nor rejected the evidence for human-caused climate change. Even
the editor of _Skeptic_ used to be skeptical of AGW, though he no
longer is.

AGWFacts

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May 28, 2012, 10:35:13 PM5/28/12
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Remember when we had dinner with Michael Shermer, so damn many
years ago? (Skeptics Society dinner, with Randi.) He was skeptical
about human-caused climate change at the time.

> ---
> http://www.skeptictank.org/
> Save us, Obe Won Paul! You're our only hope!


gordo

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May 29, 2012, 1:12:38 AM5/29/12
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On Mon, 28 May 2012 20:35:13 -0600, AGWFacts
<AGWF...@1800reality.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 May 2012 19:34:58 GMT, fr...@skeptictank.org (Fredric
>L. Rice) wrote:
>
>> gordo <grme...@shaw.ca.remove> wrote:
>
>> >Skeptic magazine one of my favorites latest issue,deals with being
>> >skeptical about global warming. This issue hardly does justice to
>> >its record of being skeptic . It was sad when I read the articles and
>> >saw that there was little new information that has not been discussed
>> >here . It hardly touches on the hatred that the Merchants of Doubt
>> >have generated.
>
>> Well, Skeptic Magazine is *not* a peer0-reviewed science journal, it is
>> tailored toward a general public which generally has very little
>> background or experience in applying the Scientific Method.
>>
>> Since you understand some of the science that describes how the climate
>> is changing, you're bound to be disappointed. Skeptic Magazine isn't
>> intended to be an academic science journal. :)
>
>Remember when we had dinner with Michael Shermer, so damn many
>years ago? (Skeptics Society dinner, with Randi.) He was skeptical
>about human-caused climate change at the time.

The Great Randi is still doing a huge public service debunking the
cold readers and those people capitalizing on human grief. Michael
Shermer though is in a different field and filled with mine fields of
angels, devils and organized religion that is near and dear to
billions of people around the world. I would like to have been at the
supper.

AGWFacts

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May 29, 2012, 7:28:55 PM5/29/12
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At the dinner (end of year 1994), I took my soup spoon and bent it
until the handle had a loop in it. I then pretended I had bent it
psychically, just like Uri Geller does. The person sitting next to
me (physicist Bernard Leikind) grabbed my psychically-bent spoon
out of my hand, leaped up, and ran at James Randi (interrupting
not just my dinner, but Randi's) yelling "It's a miracle!"

I never got the bent spoon back.

gordo

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May 30, 2012, 1:46:37 AM5/30/12
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On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:28:55 -0600, AGWFacts
LOL Thanks for sharing that.

Fredric L. Rice

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May 30, 2012, 10:48:27 PM5/30/12
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AGWFacts <AGWF...@1800reality.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 28 May 2012 19:34:58 GMT, fr...@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
>> Since you understand some of the science that describes how the climate
>> is changing, you're bound to be disappointed. Skeptic Magazine isn't
>> intended to be an academic science journal. :)
>Remember when we had dinner with Michael Shermer, so damn many
>years ago? (Skeptics Society dinner, with Randi.) He was skeptical
>about human-caused climate change at the time.

Yep, I barked out a laugh when Randi raise his fist and yelled, "Fraud!" :)

Desertphile

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May 31, 2012, 10:46:50 PM5/31/12
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On Thu, 31 May 2012 02:48:27 GMT, fr...@skeptictank.org (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:

> AGWFacts <AGWF...@1800reality.com> wrote:
> >On Mon, 28 May 2012 19:34:58 GMT, fr...@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
> >> Since you understand some of the science that describes how the climate
> >> is changing, you're bound to be disappointed. Skeptic Magazine isn't
> >> intended to be an academic science journal. :)

> >Remember when we had dinner with Michael Shermer, so damn many
> >years ago? (Skeptics Society dinner, with Randi.) He was skeptical
> >about human-caused climate change at the time.

> Yep, I barked out a laugh when Randi raise his fist and yelled, "Fraud!" :)

Randi did a mentalism trick that still has me baffled. As I recall
it:

Randi (appeared to have) taped a piece of paper under the chair of
someone in the audience before the audience arrived, and then he
gave that person a newspaper and he asked that person to pick a
work from the paper at random. The person did, and then Randi
asked the person to look under his chair to find the paper under
it. On the paper was written the word.

kym horsell

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May 31, 2012, 10:56:38 PM5/31/12
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Sometimes solving these puzzles is just a matter of thinking -- they
wouldn't do anything *that* obvious, would they?

The old trick of making Lady Liberty disappear in front of witnesses.
The camera points at the Statue of Liberty, they pull a (big) curtain across,
the curtain drops, there is no statue.

They interview the audience standing around behind the camera, and they
are all amazed the statue just disappeared before their eyes.

How is it done --
...
...
they all lied. :)

The camera was on a rotating platform with the curtain attached, and they
just did a 180 while the curtain was up.

So... they wouldn't have employed a stooge to just pick out a pre-arranged word, would they?

--
Anyone who, when faced with reality denies it and then talks down to you
is just a damned putz, that's all there is to it.
-- Melvin on Mars@CO, 27 May 2012
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