surnames a no-no
Mike&TonyaHarris
people say that this is not a place to post your surnames that you are
searching? If you can't do this, then what is the point? Please vent your
views on this matter so maybe I'll come to more of an understanding on why
your not supposed to do this. Also, if your not supposed to do it here,
then what are the 'other' NG's that you are supposed to do this too? And
who really has time to look at *all* those other NG's too?
tonya harris
Cynthia Andrews
--
<//><
Cynthia / Southern California
"For it is God which worketh in you both to will
and to do of His good pleasure" Philippians 2:13
Mike&TonyaHarris <mtha...@ev1.net> wrote in message
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ETM
newsgroup is not monitored. Can the person(s) point us to either his/her or
some newsgroup rules and regulations for posts?
In the meantime, I recommend that all of you search your newsgroup listings for
"surnames" and the country or ethnicity you are interested in. You will find
many many possibilities for posting to other groups.
Cynthia Andrews wrote:
> I don't understand that either... that's why I haven't been posting anything
>
> --
> <//><
> Cynthia / Southern California
> "For it is God which worketh in you both to will
> and to do of His good pleasure" Philippians 2:13
>
> Mike&TonyaHarris <mtha...@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:93w53.2628$9y5....@news12.ispnews.com...
> > I don't understand this. If this is a genealogy newsgroup, then why do
> some
> > people say that this is not a place to post your surnames that you are
> > searching? If you can't do this, then what is the point? <snip>
JSWORK
surnames, so whoever is telling you that you can't post them here is
wrong!! Unless, they can prove that genealogy has NOTHING to do with
surnames.
My view is: POST AWAY!!!!!
(or this newsgroup should be alt.history!)
Sandi
Mike&TonyaHarris wrote:
>
> I don't understand this. If this is a genealogy newsgroup, then why do some
> people say that this is not a place to post your surnames that you are
> searching? If you can't do this, then what is the point? Please vent your
> views on this matter so maybe I'll come to more of an understanding on why
> your not supposed to do this. Also, if your not supposed to do it here,
> then what are the 'other' NG's that you are supposed to do this too? And
> who really has time to look at *all* those other NG's too?
> tonya harris
--
Always searching for family:
WORKMAN, GASKINS, RICHARDS, LAYMAN, PORTER,
LANHAM, PRUNTY, CLARK, MILLER, HEATER, CUTLIP
paul petersen
for just posting surnames you are working on....some people figure you
should be over there i guess....doesn't matter to me...you keep right on
doing whatever you want as far as i'm concerned....and be happy doing
it...:)
cheers, paul
dcb
<mtha...@ev1.net> wrote:
>I don't understand this. If this is a genealogy newsgroup, then why do some
>people say that this is not a place to post your surnames that you are
>searching?
This is not a moderated newsgroup. Indeed, in the alt hierarchy very
few rules exist to govern what is appropriate and what is not
appropriate in this newsgroup.
> If you can't do this, then what is the point?
Have you learned nothing but what you've discovered from surname
postings? We can discuss citing sources, possible avenues of
research, good web sites, the existance of records, good research
books, good libraries, good professional researchers, etc. without
ever mentioning a surname.
>Please vent your
>views on this matter so maybe I'll come to more of an understanding on why
>your not supposed to do this.
Personally, I don't care. I delete all surname queries without
reading them. Others may feel that they clog the newsgroup.
>Also, if your not supposed to do it here,
>then what are the 'other' NG's that you are supposed to do this too?
Several soc.genealogy.surnames newsgroups exist. They are split into
different geographical locations (i.e.,
soc.genealogy.surnames.germany, s.g.s.canada). These are moderated by
a robot (computer program) which imposes strict rules about the format
of the subject lines to provide consistancy.
>And who really has time to look at *all* those other NG's too?
I read several genealogy newsgroups. s.g.methods is my favorite,
since it is moderated and the signal-to-noise ratio there is pretty
high.
With the surname newsgroups, I do a monthly search on dejanews. I
have all my surnames of interest in a text file. Once a month I do a
power search on all the s.g.s newsgroups, using my text file for the
keywords. Quite efficient way of searching them.
--
Good Luck, Diane
boe...@csi.com
Branching Out OnLine - A Genealogy Internet Tutorial
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Lane/5256/branch
Mike&TonyaHarris
searching your line is not on there looking for you? And, yes, I've learned
a few things from this ng and have received help with a few items. Isn't
genealogy about surnames? Yes, there are surname ngs out there, but America
is the melting pot. There would be a lot of ng I'd have to post my surnames
to, and with 3 small children I don't have time to go through every single
genealogy newsgroup there is. Furthermore, I've posted on the surname ngs,
and have received nothing from them. But, everyone has their own opinion
and different amounts of time on their hands (in which mine is very little),
so I guess we do what we must for our research.
tonya harris
dcb <boe...@csi.com> wrote in message
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Mike&TonyaHarris
people have posted their surnames before, and they have received replies
that this is not appropriate in this ng.
tonya harris
ETM <elai...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> Who suggested that surnames were not allowed? I am under the impression
this
> newsgroup is not monitored. Can the person(s) point us to either his/her
or
> some newsgroup rules and regulations for posts?
>
> In the meantime, I recommend that all of you search your newsgroup
listings for
> "surnames" and the country or ethnicity you are interested in. You will
find
> many many possibilities for posting to other groups.
>
> Cynthia Andrews wrote:
>
> > I don't understand that either... that's why I haven't been posting
anything
> >
> > --
> > <//><
> > Cynthia / Southern California
> > "For it is God which worketh in you both to will
> > and to do of His good pleasure" Philippians 2:13
> >
> > Mike&TonyaHarris <mtha...@ev1.net> wrote in message
> > news:93w53.2628$9y5....@news12.ispnews.com...
do
> > some
> > > people say that this is not a place to post your surnames that you are
>
ETM
hear a suggestion that someone had told Cynthia there was one. There isn't.
News Groups are mostly unmoderated, unedited, and publicly accessable.
A major discussion of the hows and whys of alt newsgroups is at
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~barr/alt-creation-guide.html
The FAQ is too lengthy to post here but it is worth taking a look at.
dcb
<mtha...@ev1.net> wrote:
>If you delete the postings with surnames, then how do you know if someone
>searching your line is not on there looking for you?
It's a matter of what is an efficient use of my time. Family
history/genealogy has no real end. Therefore, the time I waste
hand-sorting through surname postings in alt.g or any other newsgroup
could be better spent somewhere else.
I have posted queries to the s.g.s hierarchy, on the pertinent GenWeb
county pages, on pertinent ethnic websites and in local genealogy
newsletters (yes, the paper kind). I also have my family tree posted
online. If someone is looking for me and can't find me, they aren't
trying very hard or they aren't related.
> And, yes, I've learned
>a few things from this ng and have received help with a few items. Isn't
>genealogy about surnames?
Yes, but it is about a lot more than just surnames. That was my
point.
> Furthermore, I've posted on the surname ngs,
>and have received nothing from them.
And you have received something from posting your surname to alt.g?
Have you posted your surname to a more permanent place?
>But, everyone has their own opinion
>and different amounts of time on their hands (in which mine is very little),
>so I guess we do what we must for our research.
I don't have tons of time either. I don't think I'll ever have enough
time on my hands to do everything I want! See above and my previous
post on this subject about efficient searches of surname queries. Use
the index robots to do your work for you!
Again, I don't care if you post surnames to this newsgroup. I was
just trying to explain why some people might care. Perhaps they
should explain themselves.
--
Regards, Diane
boe...@csi.com
S&G
anything goes.
Post away-- I read them all.
S
JSWORK <wor...@home.com> wrote in article <3756F8C1...@home.com>...
> Your RIGHT! This is a genealogy newsgroup and genealogy is all about
> surnames, so whoever is telling you that you can't post them here is
> wrong!! Unless, they can prove that genealogy has NOTHING to do with
> surnames.
>
> My view is: POST AWAY!!!!!
> (or this newsgroup should be alt.history!)
>
> Sandi
>
> Mike&TonyaHarris wrote:
> >
> > I don't understand this. If this is a genealogy newsgroup, then why do
some
> > people say that this is not a place to post your surnames that you are
> > searching? If you can't do this, then what is the point? Please vent
your
> > views on this matter so maybe I'll come to more of an understanding on
why
> > your not supposed to do this. Also, if your not supposed to do it
here,
> > then what are the 'other' NG's that you are supposed to do this too?
And
> > who really has time to look at *all* those other NG's too?
eddie bennett
>
> >>wacking great snip<< <
> but America is the melting pot.
We've not all gone off the boil in the REST OF THE WORLD either ;-)
This is just a reminder that alt.genealogy may be run from the US
(actually I have no idea - and don't much care - where it runs or who
runs it) but people are reading and participating from everywhere.
(Anyone on the Moon or in Serbia ?)
Without meaning to cause offence, it seems to me that a few of the US
contributors come across as being just a little insular, and might
benefit by considering who their actual audience is.
Eddie B
ps - please keep right on with the surnames
Eddie Bennett
Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, UK
Researching BENNETT & FINCH in Middlesex/London (Chelsea & Bethnal
Green), DETTMAR & THOMAS in East London, VAUGHAN in South Wales & USA,
HIGHMORE in Cumberland, Dorset, Somerset & anywhere.
Mike&TonyaHarris
I'm sure everyone else here does, and it would be sort of lengthy to try and
post to all those different ngs. But, no offence taken, and I hope none was
given.
tonya harris
eddie bennett <em...@tutor.open.ac.uk> wrote in message
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Meg Dea Vail
"soc.genealogy.surnames.canada"
"soc.genealogy.surnames.britain"
"soc.genealogy.surnames. <country of origin>"
Cheers,
Meg
Edmonton, Canada
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ROGRAYSAN
Henry Brownlee
ETM wrote in message <375730B4...@worldnet.att.net>...
>I don't think you will ever find such a *list* -- that's why I was
surprised to
>hear a suggestion that someone had told Cynthia there was one. There
isn't.
>News Groups are mostly unmoderated, unedited, and publicly accessable.
>
>A major discussion of the hows and whys of alt newsgroups is at
>
>http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~barr/alt-creation-guide.html
>
>The FAQ is too lengthy to post here but it is worth taking a look at.
>
Just remember that this newsgroup mirrors a genealogy mailing list, the
name of which I can't remember at the moment. Perhaps that list frowns
upon posting surname queries?
Henry
(Looking for BROWNLEE, SPENCE, CONNELL, DUNN(E), FRENCH,
HOWARD, ORR, SUTHERLAND, BERNHARDT, KOERNER and then
there is my Wife's side of the family!)
ETM
because I prefer email to newsgroup threads. It is a matter of choice and
both users see the same information.
E
Bob Gootee
> Just remember that this newsgroup mirrors a genealogy mailing list, the
> name of which I can't remember at the moment. Perhaps that list frowns
> upon posting surname queries?
>
> Henry
> (Looking for BROWNLEE, SPENCE, CONNELL, DUNN(E), FRENCH,
> HOWARD, ORR, SUTHERLAND, BERNHARDT, KOERNER and then
> there is my Wife's side of the family!)
This newsgroup was around before any mailing list. They subscribe to it
and can just as well unsubscribe to it.
Posting surnames is about on topic as you can get for a genealogy group.
The purpose of this group is to exchange ideas, *information* and ask
for help pertaining to genealogy.
--
Bob
Visit my information & link page at
http://twilight.webbernet.net/~gooteebob/index_html.htm
news.newusers.questions Moderation Team Worker
Robert Heiling
> On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:22:02 -0500, "Henry Brownlee"
> <hfbro...@att.net> wrote:
>
> >Just remember that this newsgroup mirrors a genealogy mailing list, the
> >name of which I can't remember at the moment. Perhaps that list frowns
> >upon posting surname queries?
> >
> Well, the newsgroup was here first and the mailing list is a later
> addition. IAC, this is an alt.* newsgroup and there's no reason any
> posting related to genealogy should be considered unacceptable.
Aye! There's the rub. What relationship to genealogy do Joe Bananas' posts
have?
Bob
Joe Bananas
Joe Bananas
wrote:
>Joe Bananas wrote:
>> Well, the newsgroup was here first and the mailing list is a later
>> addition. IAC, this is an alt.* newsgroup and there's no reason any
>> posting related to genealogy should be considered unacceptable.
>
>Aye! There's the rub. What relationship to genealogy do Joe Bananas' posts
>have?
>
I'm usually pretty much on-topic, I'd say. Of course, nobody's
perfect. IAC, this being an alt.* group and all, there's not much you
can do about it anyway, is there?
Henry Brownlee
Joe Bananas wrote in message <37596df9...@enews.newsguy.com>...
snip
>Well, the newsgroup was here first and the mailing list is a later
>addition. IAC, this is an alt.* newsgroup and there's no reason any
>posting related to genealogy should be considered unacceptable.
Can't argue with that <g> Of course, I would never post surname queries
to the NG.
Henry
(Also looking for MATHERNE, PICOU, SAVOIE, TOURELLE, GUIDRY, DUFRENE,
MIRE, BERGERON, BABIN, BOQUET, TRAHAN, and any other line I haven't
stumbled upon, yet)
me
God given mission to collect all data on mankind for the the Book
of Life as described in the Bible. They believe it will be used as an aid
for Christ to judge us plus to decide where each of us would better
be suited for other tasks when he returns to set his kingdom here on
Earth once it is transformed by him. This is just a basic explanation
as I understand it. I hope I did not offend any one on this.
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