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Chuck Wolfram

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Feb 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/3/00
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They are NOT the same--Brooklyn and the Bronx are separate boroughs both of
which are in New York City. I'm certain that any map of the city will show
that they are separate places.
Genealogically Yours,
Chuck Wolfram
Researching HALTEMAN, STAUFFER,
WOLFRAM,THOMSEN, SCHULTZ,
LANDIS, KOLB, FUNK, SHOWALTER
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> Can somone please tell me if "the Bronx" and Brooklyn are one and the
same?
> If not, what is the difference?
>
> I have a passenger list for 1904 that lists a residence in W. Brooklyn.
As
> no map that I have lists West Brooklyn, would that now be listed under a
> different name?
>
> Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
>
> Pat
>
>

Herb

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Feb 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/3/00
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The Bronx and Brooklyn are different boroughs (counties) of New York
City. The Bronx is Bronx County and Brooklyn is Kings County. Although
many areas of Brooklyn have regional or neighborhood names, I am unaware
of any place in New York City that is known as West Brooklyn. In
checking a map of Brooklyn there is only a small areas that has west
streets. If you provide the specific address, perhaps we will be able
to provide details about the location in question.

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Pat

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Feb 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/4/00
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John Langill

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Feb 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/4/00
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Pat,

As others have told you, while part of New York City today, Brooklyn and
The Bronx are separate boroughs (and counties). I lived a good part of
my life in Brooklyn, NY and I know of no part that was referred to as
"West Brooklyn in the 1900s.

Is it possible that the W. Brooklyn in the passenger list refers to a
place other than the Brooklyn that is part of New York City? There are
several Brooklyns in the US -- in Connecticut, Indiana, Iowa,
Mississippi, and Ohio, to cite a few listed in the Rand McNally New
Universal World Atlas (1995).

As I'm sure you realize, a place with an East, West, North, or South
prefixed to its name is typically a smaller community than the main
place. Accordingly, a place such as West Brooklyn might be too small to
appear on a map or in the index in the atlas.

I hope this will be of some help.

John
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John Langill
Apalachin, NY

Joe Bananas

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Feb 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/4/00
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On Fri, 04 Feb 2000 00:26:27 GMT, "Pat" <Only...@Request.Com> wrote:

>Can somone please tell me if "the Bronx" and Brooklyn are one and the same?
>

There's a holdup in the Bronx,
Brooklyn's broken out in fights.

Nope, not the same.

>If not, what is the difference?
>

The Bronx is the Yankees; Brooklyn is the Dodgers.
The Bronx is a cheer; Brooklyn is a bridge.
The Bronx has a botanical garden; A Tree Grows in Brooklyn
The Bronx has a zoo; Brooklyn is a zoo.

ecunningham

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Feb 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/4/00
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Pat wrote:

> I have a passenger list for 1904 that lists a residence in W. Brooklyn. As> no map that I have lists West Brooklyn, would that now be listed under a> different name?

Pat: Go to: http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html which is
the US Geological Survey database and type in West Brooklyn. The
results are listings for two locations in Illinois and Ohio. One is a
populated place; one is a historical name. Good hunting.
ecunn...@att.net

Michelle A. Mader

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Feb 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/4/00
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I live in Ohio, right next to Brooklyn. It's always been
Brooklyn, not W. Brooklyn, as long as I've known about it.
Out of curiosity, is this where W. Brooklyn is a historical
name?

Pat Mc

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Feb 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/4/00
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Joe Bananas > >

> There's a holdup in the Bronx,
> Brooklyn's broken out in fights.

Dated yourself! Groan (because I remember that , too)

Pat Mc


shmar...@ticnet.com

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Feb 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/5/00
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Joe is a 13 year old kid who has only seen it it reruns.
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pa...@havemann.com

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Feb 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/25/00
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Pat <Only...@request.com> says:

: Can somone please tell me if "the Bronx" and Brooklyn are one and the same?
: If not, what is the difference?

: I have a passenger list for 1904 that lists a residence in W. Brooklyn. As


: no map that I have lists West Brooklyn, would that now be listed under a
: different name?

What leads you to believe that "W. Brooklyn" means "West Brooklyn"?

Could the "W" be an abbreviation for something else? For that matter,
are you certain that it's really a "W"?

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Paul Havemann (pa...@havemann.com)
Havemann Family History: http://www.havemann.com/

wewain

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Feb 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/25/00
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Brooklyn and the Bronx are two of the five boroughs of New York City.
The other three are Queens, Manhattan and Richmond (also known as Staten
Island).
Brooklyn is also known as Kings County, but is seldom if ever referred to
that way.

Your reference to West Brooklyn is probably just referring to a geographical
part of the borough.
As with any county, there are many neighborhood names, but I have not heard
of one called West Brooklyn.

wewain
2/25/2000

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Andy Romano

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Feb 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/26/00
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Regarding the previous post titled "the Bronx". Think a previous response
answered the question "is Bronx/Brooklyn the same"

Regarding West Brooklyn, this is a Little late but hope it helps.
Brooklynites correct my "assumed" boundaries.


West Brooklyn (in 1898) ran North-to-South approx. between 39th and 59th
streets, and from East-to-West, approx. between 18th and 6th/7th Avenues.
It was also south of Greenwood Cemetery.

Just guessing, but looks like it was to the west of present day Kensington.
and centered (approx.) between the Sunset Park, Borough Park, and
Kensington sections of present day Brooklyn. There was also a West Brooklyn
Station (my 1898 map not clear as to what type station, maybe a trolley
station?)

Sorry for all the "approx.". Wish I could find my detailed current day
Brooklyn map. My 1898 Brooklyn map is not that clear, but I can copy
(Xerox) that portion of the map for you.

Andy Romano
Portsmouth, VA

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