Finally making headway on SHARP family...
clifto
before my first post to Usenet in 1997 asking for help. The other day I
FINALLY made my first finds, and they seem to be leading nowhere. It appears
some family stories contain some misinformation. Hmmm.
My first find is in the 1920 census for Louisiana, Orleans Parish, Ward 6.
Series: T625 Roll: 620 Page: 186 Subpage B gets a listing of a small part
of my father's family, starting with Walter Sharp, head of household. Note
that Clifton had a mother other than wife Louise shown, as Louise was born
in LA while Clifton's mother was born in Texas. (Walter was my grandfather.)
Here is where things get rough. Any help, ideas, etc. are welcome.
My father had to drop out of high school in his teens when his father died,
in order to help support the family. He always said his father died young.
This clue led me to a *tenuous* link to a whole 'nuther family in Clio, LA.
Short description of this family:
Isaac SHARP (b.1820, d.1878) married Elizabeth HARVEY (b.1820, d.1878) on
Nov 4, 1841. They had a son Walter Nicol SHARP (b. Feb 5 1850, d. Dec 15
1947) who married Martha ROWND (b. Dec 30 1856, d. Aug 2, 1919) in 1877 or
1878. One of Walter Nicol's sons was variously Walter L. SHARP or Leonard
W. SHARP, depending on where you find him; as shown in the 1900 Census for
Livingston Parish, Maurepas LA, he was born Walter L SHARP in October 1884.
This would agree with an age of 35 in 1920 for the Ward 6 Walter Sharp
mentioned above.
<http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/la/livingst/bios/sharp.txt> calls this
son Leonard W SHARP and says
"Leonard W. died in December 11, 1920, at the age of thirty-six while
clerking in store at Clio"
This guy was born at the right time, died around the right time, spent his
life in Louisiana, but the locations aren't right. Dad's address shown in
the Ward 6 census is just a short distance outside the French Quarter[1],
while Clio is much too far away to allow commuting in 1920.
Unlike most of the children of Walter Nicol SHARP, there is precious little
to be found on Walter L / Leonard W other than what I've mentioned here.
The other children were named Simpson H., Julia E. and Samuel P.
Dad's mother was said to have been a Marie TEUSCH. 1920 census suggests
she was born in Texas. I can't find the Walter/Clifton family in the 1910
census, nor can I find a likely Teusch anywhere.
Have access to Ancestry via library, one hour at a time. Did my first hour
yesterday; census pictures there are clearer than at Heritage Quest. Just
had time to verify info I already had and find a few minor tidbits.
The long and short of it is, the only lineage I can find before my grandfather
probably isn't my lineage.
[1] 1143 Hospital St. shown. In 1911, Hospital St. was renamed to Governor
Nicholls St. and it's likely the 1920 census taker called it by its old
name; note that on the same sheet he was "down the street" on St. Claude
Ave. A short walk across Rampart St. from 1143 Gov. Nicholls and you're
in the French Quarter, if I remember right.
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ALIDA SPRY
known info on your grandfather. When was he born, where, when did he die,
where? Same for you grandmother. Did they have any siblings? If you tell
us what you know for certain, starting with yourself or your father and work
backwards, then we can help you.
Alida
"clifto" <cli...@clifto.com> wrote in message
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Doug Corbin
the family. Clifton's father's name is Walter T. Sharp. I found his WWI
registration which I'm also sending. His full name was Walter True Sharp. He
died in New Orleans in 1934. From the 1930 census it looks like Louise was
his only wife and she was the mother of Clifton. Here's the info for Walter
True Sharp's death. You should be able to order a copy of his death
certificate:
New Orleans, Louisiana Death Records Index, 1804-1949 Record
Name: Walter True Sharp
Age: 48 yrs
Death Date: 20 Jan 1934
Color: W
Page: 1792
Volume: 205
Doug
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Tara
and 7 siblings. I'll send that along and I'll also send some of his
brother's WWI draft registrations and 1920 census entries. They seem to have
mostly been in St. Tammany Parish in the 1917-1920 timeframe. I haven't been
able to find anything in 1910 on them, so I'm not sure which census, the
1920 or 1930, has the wrong age info for Clifton. Do you have another source
which has his correct birthdate?
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"Doug Corbin" <boo...@swbell.net> wrote in message
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Ron Head
1920 census, he is obviously the same person as the one listed in WWI draft
registrations as "Walter True SHARP" (born 14 Aug 1885) living at 1143 Gov.
Nichols--which, as you noted, is the same street, whose name got changed in
1911.
I strongly suspect (especially given the August birth) that this is the same
Walter SHARP who was living with his parents in this 1900 census listing:
1900 St. Tammany Par., LA (Ward 2)
ED 80, page 15A
fam. #186
Steven SHARP Jan 1861 39 LA LA LA (m. 18 yrs) farmer
Matilda Mar 1862 38 LA LA LA (m. 18 yrs; 10 kids/9 living)
wife
Jackson Mar 1883 17 LA LA LA son
William May 1885 15 LA LA LA son
Walter Aug 1886 13 LA LA LA son
Nellie Oct 1888 11 LA LA LA da.
James Nov 1889 10 LA LA LA son
Marie Jan 1892 08 LA LA LA da.
Jiles Mar 1893 07 LA LA LA son
Edward May 1895 05 LA LA LA son
Augusta May 1897 03 LA LA LA da.
Tara
earlier, but Walter isn't living with them. I'll send that image to you. One
thing I like about the possibility of them being Walter's family is the
daughter, Rita. It looks like Walter may have named his daughter after his
younger sister.
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"Tara" <NOtnlar...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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clifto
> I'm sending you the 1930 census which shows some slightly different info on
> the family.
Dang. See new e-mail address; my domain is temporarily out of e-mail servers.
> Clifton's father's name is Walter T. Sharp. I found his WWI
> registration which I'm also sending. His full name was Walter True Sharp. He
> died in New Orleans in 1934.
That would be the guy, as judged by the middle name.
> From the 1930 census it looks like Louise was
> his only wife and she was the mother of Clifton.
I'm fairly sure Louise wasn't his only wife; dad used to talk of two half-
brothers born of the same father and another mother. (One was named Russell,
don't remember the other's name.)
I'm also sure because dad's brother Harold wrote his obituary. Harold was
the de facto family historian (with an AMAZING memory); unfortunately he
died before I got bit by the genealogy bug. He's the one who named dad's
mom as Marie Teusch.
> Here's the info for Walter
> True Sharp's death. You should be able to order a copy of his death
> certificate:
> New Orleans, Louisiana Death Records Index, 1804-1949 Record
> Name: Walter True Sharp
> Age: 48 yrs
> Death Date: 20 Jan 1934
> Color: W
> Page: 1792
> Volume: 205
>
> Doug
You've done this before, I can tell. :) Thanks ever so!
clifto
> Just a quick question so that I can try to help you. Can you please post
> known info on your grandfather. When was he born, where, when did he die,
> where? Same for you grandmother. Did they have any siblings? If you tell
> us what you know for certain, starting with yourself or your father and work
> backwards, then we can help you.
Grandfather: Ron Head found records indicating he was born Aug 14, 1885.
Doug Corbin posted 20 Jan 1934 as his date of death. He supposedly lived
all his life in New Orleans. Grandmother: only name known, from recollection
of dad's brother; believed to be different from the Louise shown in 1920
census, name given by uncle was Marie Teusch. Dad had two half-brothers,
Russell and ?; one brother, Harold, and one sister, Rita.
My parents always said I was English, German, Irish and French, and the Irish
would be from my mother's side (her parents were immigrants).
My parents always used to say that we were interrelated with a line of Sharps
from Covington LA. In my early days they used to joke that if you lived in
Covington and your name wasn't Sharp, your maiden name was.
clifto
> I think I may have found Walter T. Sharp in the 1900 census with his parents
> and 7 siblings. I'll send that along and I'll also send some of his
> brother's WWI draft registrations and 1920 census entries.
Please note the change in e-mail address. I was stoopid and forgot to change
it in my configuration before.
> They seem to have
> mostly been in St. Tammany Parish in the 1917-1920 timeframe. I haven't been
> able to find anything in 1910 on them, so I'm not sure which census, the
> 1920 or 1930, has the wrong age info for Clifton. Do you have another source
> which has his correct birthdate?
I'd guess 1920 was wrong, as I believed his birthdate to be Oct 13, 1917.
Born in New Orleans, of course.
Talking with the librarian yesterday, she mentioned her belief that probably
60% of the 1920 census was inaccurate information. She claimed that they were
short on census takers, so started grabbing untrained people and letting them
loose with a hundred words of instructions and some forms.
> I *think* I found the 1910 census entry for the JW Sharp family I sent
> earlier, but Walter isn't living with them. I'll send that image to you. One
> thing I like about the possibility of them being Walter's family is the
> daughter, Rita. It looks like Walter may have named his daughter after his
> younger sister.
Considering I haven't mentioned Rita before today, it appears you're on the
right track. You folks are amazing. I didn't find anything at all in the
1910 or 1930 census, or for that matter any of the other places I've
checked.
clifto
> I strongly suspect (especially given the August birth) that this is the same
> Walter SHARP who was living with his parents in this 1900 census listing:
You people are amazing! Thank you.
clifto
> Dang. See new e-mail address; my domain is temporarily out of e-mail servers.
Double dang. Send to cli...@gmail.com, please. Stoopid newsreader.
clifto
> Tara wrote:
>> I think I may have found Walter T. Sharp in the 1900 census with his parents
>> and 7 siblings. I'll send that along and I'll also send some of his
>> brother's WWI draft registrations and 1920 census entries.
>
> Please note the change in e-mail address. I was stoopid and forgot to change
> it in my configuration before.
Please note the e-mail address should be cli...@gmail.com even though I changed
it in my configuration and the stoopid newsreader didn't fix it. :(