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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 65
Today's Topics:
#1 Re: ? Mac Geneolgy Software [mont...@world.std.com (Judy Avers]
#2 Re: LDS Library, Salt Lake City [gfsl...@aol.com (GFS Linda)]
#3 Genealogy and Adoption ["Saudi Scott" <jowett@lindsaycomp.]
#4 wandschneider [user...@bit.net.au (Mr User-Name)]
#5 WANDSCHNEIDER [wayn...@bit.net.au (Wayne Moloney]
#6 Re: Immigration Records [Whos...@aol.com]
#7 McGRAW, Berkshire, England ["Gavin McGraw" <mcgrawg@netspace.n]
#8 GOODFELLOW, Summerfield Stephen PE ["Gavin McGraw" <mcgrawg@netspace.n]
#9 Re: Infomration On "The New World [Henry.L...@csource.com (Henry]
#10 Re: Software [dano...@aol.com (Dan of AIA)]
#11 Re: Princess Diana [s...@harvee.billerica.ma.us (Susan ]
#12 Nyack New York ["Bill Betchley" <Hi.Way.Technologi]
#13 [FAQ] Soc.genealogy.african 1.2.9 [Michael Emery <mem...@utxvms.cc.ut]
#14 Odd-Fellows Offerings, 1850 [Jim Lellman <lel...@daugherty.com]
#15 Kooijman Oud-Beijerland HOMEPAGE ! [Kooiman <koo...@wirehub.nl>]
#16 Book(s) History of the Strong Fami [hben...@hevanet.com]
#17 Re: ? Mac Geneolgy Software [bw...@altamaha.net (Bill Williams)]
#18 search a good genealogist prog [h...@habcnx.stben.be (Hubert Barnic]
#19 New England Research Advice ["Gregory M. Holmes" <holmes.38@osu]
#20 Lipscomb/Kisner(Wv)Famil [Cheryl....@cpafug.pcbuddy.com ]
#21 Cramer [deborah <wic...@iafrica.com>]
#22 Cramer [deborah <wic...@iafrica.com>]
#23 Re: Royal Genealogy [David Marks <Da...@potts.demon.co.]
#24 Re: New England Research Advice [kda...@aol.com (KDAD40)]
#25 Re: VIEWEG,Johan Gottlob;Eimflock, [ul...@iplab12.nada.kth.se (Ulf Berg]
#26 Re: Software [da...@cds9172.Cadence.COM (Dale De]
#27 LAVEILLE, LERAYER, BOUCAULT, RUELL [Christian LAVEILLE <laveille@club-]
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X-Message: #1
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 11:09:16 GMT
From: mont...@world.std.com (Judy Aversa)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <199709080709169836@[10.0.2.15]>
Subject: Re: ? Mac Geneolgy Software
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Reunion is the most highly recommended software, as far as I could find.
I bought it and I like it very much.
Judy
> Paris Stone wrote:
> >
> > Mac Software for geneology - does it exist ? WHich program is better ??
> > Where can I get a demo copy to try ?
> >
> > Any comments from users ?
> >
> > Please write to me at coo...@earthlink.net
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Paris Stone
> >
> > --
> > Smile - Someone is watching or listening ....
> >
> > Paris Stone
> >
> > World Peace ! E-Mail: coo...@earthlink.net
>
>
> over three years ago I ordered the Mac PAF ($35.00) similar to the PC
> version. The huge reports were not included, but the documents sure
> look nice.- I update my PC version and about annually I transfer it over
> to the Mac for better docs. It is not very fancy, but I like it!
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X-Message: #2
Date: 8 Sep 1997 12:11:03 GMT
From: gfsl...@aol.com (GFS Linda)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970908121...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: LDS Library, Salt Lake City
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On, 7 Sept, Claude Wood wrote
>I'm planning a visit to the LDS library in Salt Lake City. Has anyone
>been there who can give me some pointers? Where's the best place to
>start, etc. Also, does anyone know of an RV park in that general
>area? Never having been there, I don't want to waste research time
>stumbling around trying to find where to start. If you answer by
>email I am certain to receive it. Thanks in advance.
Key to effective research in SLC is knowing what you want to look at (with
manuscript #s and film #s/book #s) before you go.
L
GFS Linda, Co-leader Scot and Irish SIG, AOL Genealogy Forum. "If all the
world were genealogists, there would be no wars! No one would take a
chance on the records being burned!"
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X-Message: #3
Date: 8 Sep 1997 12:16:58 GMT
From: "Saudi Scott" <jow...@lindsaycomp.on.ca>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbc51$15f6cd00$6f2cacce@jowett>
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I am a member of Parent Finders, a search and support group for adoptees,
birth parents and adoptive parents in Ontario. I am interested in the
feelings of the genealogy community regarding search and reunion.
The Search for Marianne Newsweek Article from the May 27, 1996 issue.
A baffling legal bureaucracy stands in the way.But I am determined to find
my birthmother.-
By G. William Troxler (president of Capitol College in Laurel, Maryland.)
I knew the document in my hands was a lie. It was too neat, too stark. It
lacked the official signature. When I asked the clerk at the Vital Records
Office for an explanation, she said that this was an amended birth
certificate. The original document was under seal of court. "But why?" I
protested. I'm a responsible citizen--Vietnam veteran, college president,
trustee of numerous boards and gubernatorial commissions. The clerk's
answer was disconcertingly matter-of-fact: "Probably you're adopted." That
is how, at the age of 46, I came to learn that I am unrelated to the couple
I know and love as Mom and Dad.
When I entered that government office, I was certain of my identity. I knew
that I was born in Washington, D.C., on February 25, 1947. My parents were
Lurline Pettus and George William Troxler. I was descended from Johann
Gegor Troxler, who had left Bavaria in 1719 and entered America through the
port of New Orleans. The family had taken root in the South--Alabama and
North Carolina, to be specific. I could recite to you who among my
ancestors fought in the Civil War, their major battles and who died at
Point Lookout prisoner-of-war camp. A month later, all that remained of my
heritage was the date and place of my birth. Soon the date was also in
question, although I learned that my mother's name was probably Marianne.
The hospital that provided my baby footprints denied that I had been born
there. The attorney who did the legal work for my adoption had no record of
it. The physician who had delivered me was deceased, and his files had been
destroyed.
Nearly three years after my encounter with truth in that government office,
I have tried everything possible to find Marianne. I took an eight-month
sabbatical to pursue the quest full time. I have scrutinized tax records,
birth certificates, divorce filings, old newspapers and high-school
yearbooks in about 100 countries--on a good day, scanning 200,000
handwritten records. I do not recommend this activity unless myopia is one
of your significant life goals. I have written more than 3,000 letters to
individuals who might know of my mother. The Internet has yielded no
answers. Neither has the Family history Center of the Mormon Church. I have
hired a private investigator. All in vain.
It is hard to convey what it feels like to search. I am daily reminded of
Kafka's novel "The Trial." The tale pits the protagonist against a baffling
legal bureaucracy. He is unsuccessful in trying to communicate with the
authorities and ultimately cannot receive justice. He is charged and
tormented, but never convicted, never sentence, never acquitted, never told
of the charges against him. That may be as accurate a description of the
search experience as I can provide. I sit across a desk from a man with my
adoption record in his hands. There can't be more than a dozen pages in the
slim file, but every word of the information is about me. He decides what I
may see, what I may know about myself. When I ask him for the file, he
tells me he cannot let me see it under the laws of Maryland, the state
where I was adopted. When I tell him I want to know facts about my birth,
he tells me that my birth is none of my business.
Many friends have tried to dissuade me from looking. "I know who you are,"
they say. How comforting. Everyone else knows me better than I do. "Your
mother may not want to be found," they say. But I know that she had some
misgivings about putting me up for adoption. On several occasions when I
was an infant, Marianne paced up and down our sidewalk, or sat in the car
outside, hoping for a glimpse of me. "Ignorance is bliss," my friends tell
me. But in the case of adoptees, ignorance could be a death sentence,
lurking unseen in a medical history. "Suppose you find bad news?" they say.
The news may be bad, but it is my news. I vacate my humanity if I allow a
government-crafted fiction of my life to supplant the truth.
A sympathetic judge in Maryland finally allowed me to examine my adoption
file. He even gave me copies of my Order of Adoption and the Consent Decree
by which Marianne signed me away. These are ordinary pieces of 81/2-by-11
paper. Still, I can't look at them without my palms sweating. These pages
changed my life. The consent decree is particularly poignant. My
birthmother speaks of me as "indigent, neglected, destitute and homeless" -
a sea of words that are very dramatic. Even more striking to me is her
signature--Marianne--at the bottom of the page. Her scrawled name may be
the only contact beyond infancy that I will ever have with her. I know even
less about my biological father. The file lists his name cryptically s
"Jones(?). " His religion, as "Gentile."
Now that Maryland has opened my adoption record, I am appealing to the
courts in Washington, D.C., to unseal my birth certificate. Why should it
be so difficult? Nearly all of you who read this can obtain copies of your
birth certificates. It is a trivial act of information retrieval. Your name
and a small fee presented to the right office and, poof, there appears a
single page of information you already knew. But I am unequal citizen under
the law.
You may think that my concerns are increasingly irrelevant in a society
where out-of-wedlock birth no longer carries a stigma. Wrong. It is true
that the adoption process is more open now than when I was a child.
Adoptive families generally receive a medical file, and the two sets of
parents may even exchange pictures. However, the notion still remains
enshrined in law that the birth records should be sealed in perpetuity.
Under the proposed Uniform Adoption Act, there are even efforts in state
legislatures to criminalize the act of searching for one's birth relatives.
Even though my adoption file came to me through legitimate sources, I would
be guilty of a felony for possessing it. If Maryland should pass this law,
I could be subject to a $10,000 penalty for the simple act of seeking my
birthmother.
Why do I continue? It's not that I need a mother to nurture me. I'm nearly
50. But I've spent my entire adult life telling my students that truth
matters. I need to learn the truth about my origins--and I hope to do so
while Marianne is still alive.
Thank you,
sandi
Parent Finders Kawartha
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X-Message: #4
Date: 8 Sep 1997 12:30:31 GMT
From: user...@bit.net.au (Mr User-Name)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v0r57$2l3$1...@hermes.bit.net.au>
Subject: wandschneider
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Is there anybody out there looking up the WANDSCHNEIDER FAMILY TREE i n
Germany pre 1870 around Franzhagen. An Aussie would like to contact you.
thank you
wayne.
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X-Message: #5
Date: 8 Sep 1997 12:41:57 GMT
From: wayn...@bit.net.au (Wayne Moloney)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v0rql$2l3$2...@hermes.bit.net.au>
Subject: WANDSCHNEIDER
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this is an alteration to my previous one today. I am just learning to send these things.
is there any body out there chasing the WANDSCHNEIDER FAMILY about 1800's in
Franzhagen, Germany.
Thank you
wayne . An aussie.
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X-Message: #6
Date: 8 Sep 1997 06:00:48 -0700
From: Whos...@aol.com
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <97090809001...@emout20.mail.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Immigration Records
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In a message dated 97-09-08 03:39:02 EDT, you write:
<< Am having a heck of a time attempting to locate a date that 2 ancestors
emmigrated to the United States.
I don't believe the ship records listserv can help since all we know is an
APPROX. year, and name of the
person and country he lived in prior to coming to the USA. I do have a
copy of "Declaration of Intention"
records, but all it lists is the date and the name of the person, along
with the country they lived in prior.
What other types of records do we need to locate in order to establish a
date these ancestors actually
arrived in the US? Nothing on their death certificate or gravestone shows
this. >>
I don't have an answer for you. Sorry. But I do have a question is this list
server on the internet? And if so what is the web address?
Thank you in advance,
Tammy (Whos...@aol.com)
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X-Message: #7
Date: 8 Sep 1997 13:52:55 GMT
From: "Gavin McGraw" <mcg...@netspace.net.au>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbc5e$a1c32600$3cfa0fd2@default>
Subject: McGRAW, Berkshire, England
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Would appreciate any information on James McGraw (Sheriff's Officer) & his
wife Sarah Arding from Wallingford, Berkshire, England around early 1800's.
His son was James also and was married to Mary Ann PILE (PYLE).
Thank you.
--
Gavin McGraw Voicemail: 61 3 92235257
Melbourne
Victoria
Australia
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X-Message: #8
Date: 8 Sep 1997 13:56:45 GMT
From: "Gavin McGraw" <mcg...@netspace.net.au>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbc5f$2b3a7e60$3cfa0fd2@default>
Subject: GOODFELLOW, Summerfield Stephen PENNSYLVANIA 1832
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Summerfield GOODFELLOW from Pennsylvania married Janet (Jenet) McGRAW of
Berkshire, England. They married in Australia in 1858 and had 7 children.
Any information on the Goodfellow line would be appreciated.
Thank you.
--
Gavin McGraw Voicemail: 61 3 92235257
Melbourne
Victoria
Australia
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X-Message: #9
Date: 8 Sep 1997 10:05:44 EDT
From: Henry.L...@csource.com (Henry Lanouette)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <873727...@bbs.csource.com>
Subject: Re: Infomration On "The New World Book Of..."
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>>Is this a scam or something legit?
George, all that this book contains is a listing of people (most likely
from telephone books) that have the surname: BOHLENDER.
.I once bought the book because I wanted the "addresses" ... but 37% of
them were "old". "Nough said?
.TTYL, Henri, le "frog" -=- henry.l...@circellar.com -=-
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X-Message: #10
Date: 8 Sep 1997 14:16:48 GMT
From: dano...@aol.com (Dan of AIA)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970908141...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Software
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pegva,
"Ancestors and Descendants" (A&D)! The reasons why are listed at the A&D
web site under "Features". See http://www.AIA-AnD.com.
Dan
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X-Message: #11
Date: 8 Sep 1997 13:22:27 GMT
From: s...@harvee.billerica.ma.us (Susan Mudgett aka little gator)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v0u6j$1...@harvee.billerica.ma.us>
Subject: Re: Princess Diana
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Shirley Azvedo (s.az...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: I have seen many posting today on Princess Diana. Does anyone out there
: know the relationship of Princess Diana to Colin Powell. In a speech
: she made, possibly a year ago in Washington DC, from up at the podium
: she greeted the ladies and gentlemen and Cousin Colin. As she greeted
: him she turned her head and smiled at him.
: I would appreciate anything anyone can tell me.
I can't tell you much, but I did hear in the news at the time that
both were descendants or cousins or something of the same US
president. I forget which one, and Im sorry I don't remmeber more.
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X-Message: #12
Date: 8 Sep 1997 15:38:39 GMT
From: "Bill Betchley" <Hi.Way.Te...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v165v$g...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Nyack New York
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Any on no of a way to access records from Nyack New york Late 1800's early
1900"s.
Thank you.
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X-Message: #13
Date: 8 Sep 1997 09:20:48 -0700
From: Michael Emery <mem...@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v18l0$5...@bl-5.rootsweb.com>
Subject: [FAQ] Soc.genealogy.african 1.2.9
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The Frequently Answered Questions (FAQ) for newsgroup
soc.genealogy.african is available for your perusal at:
<http://members.aol.com/memery/faq>.
This newsgroup is for genealogy and family history
discussion among people researching ancestors, family
members, or others who have a genealogical connection to
any people in any part of Africa or the African Diaspora.
This FAQ should be read by anyone who wishes to post to
soc.genealogy.african.
Changes from the previous edition are: amendments to the
African American resource list.
--
Michael Emery soc.genealogy.african
MEm...@aol.com co-founder
mem...@utxsvs.cc.utexas.edu co-moderator
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X-Message: #14
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 11:36:08 -0500
From: Jim Lellman <lel...@daugherty.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970908112611.2470A-100000@speedy>
Subject: Odd-Fellows Offerings, 1850
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I came across a book, in fairly dreadful condition, that appears to
be a collection of essays written by members of the Odd-Fellows society
in the year 1850. There are no names or other identfying marks in the
book, as far as I can see, and as far as I know, I have no ancestors
affiliated with the Odd-Fellows.
Perhaps someone that does would like it? I will cheerfully give it away
to anyone to whom it represents something meaningful. I work in downtown
Chicago, and live in the northwest suburbs. I will mail it if you pay
postage.
Treasure Hunters: Mold is taking over the covers; this book is probably
of no commercial value whatsoever.
--
Packrat Jim
lel...@daugherty.com
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X-Message: #15
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 19:27:08 +0200
From: Kooiman <koo...@wirehub.nl>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341435...@wirehub.nl>
Subject: Kooijman Oud-Beijerland HOMEPAGE !
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New Homepage:
Kooijman or Kooiman from Oud-Beijerland Hoeksche-Waard the Netherlands
http://www.wirehub.nl/~kooiman/
Greetings,
Martijn C. Kooiman
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X-Message: #16
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 10:46:04
From: hben...@hevanet.com
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <hbennett.1...@hevanet.com>
Subject: Book(s) History of the Strong Family - 1871
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Published in 1871 by B.W. Dwight. 767 pages with over 100 on John Strong and
thousands of entries on descendents...
Covers late 1600's to 1870's. 2 volume set. Also has misc. (news clippings,
updates, letters) tucked away inside. Complete with black and white
lithographs.
For sale or will donate to a non-profit organization.
For more info, please e-mail hben...@hevanet.com
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X-Message: #17
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 13:48:29 -0400
From: bw...@altamaha.net (Bill Williams)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <1997090813...@max1-20.altamaha.net>
Subject: Re: ? Mac Geneolgy Software
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Paris Stone <coo...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Mac Software for geneology - does it exist ? WHich program is better ??
> Where can I get a demo copy to try ?
>
> Any comments from users ?
The two I've seen mentioned are Gene and Reunion. I haven't seen Gene,
but there's a demo verson of Reunion 4 (v.5 has been released) in the
Genealogy forum on Compu$erve which I've downloaded -- it really looks
good, and I think I'll spring for the full version.
There's also a commercial application named MacROOTS, which did pretty
well as shareware (up through MacROOTS 7, which crashes with 32-bit
addressing turned on). v.II seems to run OK, but doesn't support
pictures; v.II 2.2.6 =supposedly= supports pictures (but I can't get it
to work), but all support has now been dropped by the author so don't
get sucked into buying this.
--
Selah!
BWms
bw...@altamaha.net
bill_w...@atlmug.org
-= Quantum Mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of... =-
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X-Message: #18
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 12:07:02 +0100
From: h...@habcnx.stben.be (Hubert Barnich)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <MSGID_2=3A293=2F2602.27...@fidonet.org>
Subject: search a good genealogist prog
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Hi StThetaphane,
In a message of <Sat 30 Aug 97 22:55> to All (), you wrote:
S> Hello,
S> I am a new PC user. Before I was on amiga, and I use a program name
S> "scion". So I search a equivalent on Pc, if you know one please answe=
r me,
S> thank you .
Stephane,
d'abord, je suppose que, vu ton adresse, on peut parler/ecrire en Francai=
s?
Je te conseille un bon shareware: Brother's Keeper, que tu peux telecharg=
er
sur le site de John Steed a Compuserve
Nous en utilisons la version Francaise, sous Windows et sous DOS
D'un autre cot=E9, ton programme sur Amiga m'interesse, car un cousin
utilise cet ordinateur, et ne dispose pas d'un programme de genealogie!
SI, de plus, il peut importer des GEDCOMS, hourra!
Je pourrai ainsi lui faire parvenir des informations
sous forme de GEDCOM
S> -=3D- FidoGate 0.1alpha2
S> + Origin: Habay's Connexion, be (2:293/2602.777)
Hubert BARNICH, Rue V.LIBERT, 25, B-6900 MARCHE-en-FAMENNE (Belgium)
E-Mail to: h...@habcnx.stben.be Fidonet : 2:293/2602.27 =20
Homepage WEB: http://www.mygale.org/08/hbarnich/index.htm
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Looking for: BARNICH, BARNISH, BARNICK, BARNIQUE , BERNIQUE or ANY=20
descendant/relative in USA, Canada, France, Banat, BRD, UK...
Also : COEURDEROY, DACHELET, HENIN, TOMBEUR, MAUBEUGE, RULKIN, GENGOUX...
Bye, Hubert.
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X-Message: #19
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 14:08:26 -0400
From: "Gregory M. Holmes" <holm...@osu.edu>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34143F...@osu.edu>
Subject: New England Research Advice
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I will be on a business trip in New England and I will have an entire
Saturday for doing research. Can anyone recommend the best place to
spend my day? I have traced my husband's family (Holmes) and they have
extensive roots in Massachusetts from 1600-1850, specifically in
Kingston and perhaps even in Boston. I have information about part of
the family that was in Charlestown in the early 1800's.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!!
Diana Holmes
dho...@banyan.com
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Date: Sun, 07 Sep 97 10:18:08 GMT
From: Cheryl....@cpafug.pcbuddy.com (Cheryl Singhal)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <wgcid$1$g109$h422$i0$j341...@fidonet.org>
Subject: Lipscomb/Kisner(Wv)Famil
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Did you try the GenWeb?
http://www.USGenWeb.com/WV and /VA
then go to the individual counties and see if there are look-ups
available.
BK>From: bku...@innet.com
BK>Looking for information on the family of John LIPSCOMB b: 1795
BK>Va (s/o Ambrose Lipscomb and Winnie (MARDIS)Lipscomb). John
BK>married NANCY KISNER (b in Harrison Co., WV). They had children
BK>David (b c1844),Eliza (b c1846), July (b c1848)and Solomon King
BK>Lipscomb,my gg-grandfather. Solomon (1850-1934)born on Tucker/
BK>Preston line, WV and died Morgantown, Monongalia Co., WV. He
BK>married (1)NANCY VIRGINIA PHILLIPS (2)ELIZABETH KING. Solomon
BK>and Nancy lived in Rowlesburg, Preston Co., WV. Their children:
BK>Carrie (m BELL), Susan (m COZAD), Chester (m Blodyn JONES), Charles (m
BK>Rose COLE), Mary "Molly"(m John BRITTON) ,Nellie, Rosa (m Francis
BK>Pulliam), Jesse (m Ellen DUMIRE)my grandparents. Any information
BK>on this family would be greatly appreciated. Areas of research are
BK>Clarke Co,VA,; Frederick Co,VA; Tucker, Preston, Randolph, Monongalia,
BK>Harrison Cos, etc.
* OLX 2.1 TD * cheryl....@cpafug.pcbuddy.com
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X-Message: #21
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 20:21:41 -0700
From: deborah <wic...@iafrica.com>
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Does anybody know the heritage of the surname Cramer?
Please let me know.
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Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 20:36:54 -0700
From: deborah <wic...@iafrica.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Cramer
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Seeking information on the heritage of Cramer
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X-Message: #23
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 19:24:55 +0100
From: David Marks <Da...@potts.demon.co.uk>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <PVVkYAA3...@potts.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Royal Genealogy
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In article <5v08ll$9...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>, Barbara Hopper
<du...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> writes
> >
>> While Diana was alive, if Prince Charles married again (not to Diana), he
>> could not become king - correct?
>
>Right, he could not. In the Anglican church, you cannot re-marry if you
>have an ex-mate still living.
It is in fact possible (and very common) for someone who is divorced and whose
ex-spouse is still alive to remarry in the Church of England. (Not all vicars
will agree to carrying out such a marriage, but many will). The debate in the
case of Prince Charles centres around the desirability of this happening since
the monarch is also the Head of the Church and many churchmen (not all) believe
that it would be improper to have a divorced head of the church. Hope this adds
to your excellent explanation. Cheers-
David Marks
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X-Message: #24
Date: 8 Sep 1997 18:27:27 GMT
From: kda...@aol.com (KDAD40)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970908182...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: New England Research Advice
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Diana Holmes asks:
>I will be on a business trip in New England and I will have an entire
>Saturday for doing research. Can anyone recommend the best place to
>spend my day?
If you are in the Boston area, try the
New England Historical and Genealogical Society
99 Newbury Street
Boston MA 02114-2120
e-mail 74777...@compuserve.com for hours and other information (I am
not sure of their Saturday hours)
Reg Pitts
KDA...@aol.com
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X-Message: #25
Date: 8 Sep 1997 20:07:38 +0200
From: ul...@iplab12.nada.kth.se (Ulf Berggren)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v1eta$q...@iplab12.nada.kth.se>
Subject: Re: VIEWEG,Johan Gottlob;Eimflock,Saxen,Germany;1736-1796
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In article <01bcbc43$b04872e0$8151f482@targa> "Bj=F6rn Angantyr" <anganty=
r...@swipnet.se> writes:
>I wonder if there is anyone who know anything more of a man called Viewe=
g
>(or Wieweg) from Eimflock in Saxen , Germany. He was traveling to Sweden
>and he was a blacksmith.
>Johan Gottlob Vieweg=20
>Born :1736 Dead :1796-03-01=20
Are you aware of the work of Sture Jansson regarding this family?
>Anna Lena Noaksdotter =C5berg
>Born :1744 Dead :1815-02-13 Fellingsbro, V=E4stmanland
Do you know anything of her ancestry?
There is a smith family =C5berg from Fellingsbro, so maybe that is
her family? The name =C5berg in this case seems to be created from
the =C5by foundry in Fellingsbro.
The old group alt.genealogy is deleted from the followup.
--
Ulf Berggren
http://www.nada.kth.se/~ulfb/genealogy.html
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X-Message: #26
Date: 8 Sep 1997 18:23:37 GMT
From: da...@cds9172.Cadence.COM (Dale DePriest)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v1fr9$l62$4...@news.cadence.com>
Subject: Re: Software
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In article <19970907233...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, pe...@aol.com
(PegVA) writes:
|> I know this has been asked countless times, however...
|> What is your favorite Genealogy? Briefly, why do you like it?
|> pe...@aol.com
|> Peg Seay Enroughty
|> pe...@aol.com
My favorite is FTREE. This is a program that is native to os2. What I
like about it is the scalable graphic display of family information and
the fact that the database is fully accessable via REXX routines. This
means I can write my own import/export for GEDCOM (actually just modify
the ones that come with it) or write any kind of special routine for
the data retrieval or update. A very powerful feature. Many rexx samples
are included. It is share ware and very inexpensive.
--
_ _ Dale DePriest San Jose, California
/`) _ // da...@Cadence.COM voice: (408) 428-5249
o/_/ (_(_X_(` ISO 9000 Program Manager fax: (408) 894-3484
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X-Message: #27
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 21:50:03 +0100
From: Christian LAVEILLE <lave...@club-internet.fr>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: LAVEILLE, LERAYER, BOUCAULT, RUELLE and BONHEUR family
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Dear all,
I am looking for any information regarding these family names:
- LAVEILLE (Normandy, Loire in France and USA)
- LERAYER (Normandy in France)
- BOUCAULT (Normandy in France)
- RUELLE (Normandy and Perigord in France)
- BONHEUR, (Bordeaux, Paris in France) the family name of the French
animals painter Rosa (1822 Bordeaux - 1899 Ch=E2teau de By)
By advance thanks for all your information !
Christian LAVEILLE
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 67
Today's Topics:
#1 Re: CA Birth Records [corn...@aol.com (Cornheart)]
#2 Re: World family tree? [paul_bu...@broder.com (Paul B]
#3 Cambridge, MD Help Needed [ginn...@aol.com (Ginnysboy)]
#4 Re: Sharing your GEDCOM file? [Jon Boehm <jb...@bright.net>]
#5 Re: Circular Diagram Software [warw...@intercoast.com.au (Warwic]
#6 Re: New England Research Advice [deke...@mindspring.com]
#7 Re: BEST GENEALOGY IN HOUSTON [Whos...@aol.com]
#8 Re: Newbie question: Follow up for [deke...@mindspring.com]
#9 Naturalization Application? [Barbara Webb <web...@pop3.cris.co]
#10 Family Origins Ver 6.0 - Anyone us [tch...@aol.com (TCH6535)]
#11 Re: Princess Diana [Peter Schultz <schu...@erols.com>]
#12 Militar Bases [Ken Nelson <kne...@mail1.nai.net>]
#13 25,300+ NAMES DATABASE FREE ACCE ["James L. Edenfield" <e...@hom.net>]
#14 Re: Royal Genealogy [maxhe...@clo.com (Thomas the In]
#15 NY voter registrations? [DR & DW <rager...@sprintmail.co]
#16 Popowich Family ["John C. Popowich, Jr." <jedi_yoda]
#17 Re: Immigration Records [cwsu...@nr.infi.net (Charles Sull]
#18 Re: Militar Bases [deke...@mindspring.com]
#19 Re: Princess Diana [Ed Hall <edh...@telapex.com>]
#20 Re: Militar Bases [James A Honeychuck <jimhoney@world]
#21 Re: Militar Bases [Peter Schultz <schu...@erols.com>]
#22 LLOYD> TN, MO 1844- ["Roger Lloyd" <rll...@tstonramp.co]
#23 Genealogy Seminar [TheDonL <The...@concentric.net>]
#24 WHALEY> VA, KY, MO ["Roger Lloyd" <rll...@tstonramp.co]
#25 Re: New England Research Advice [kar...@bu.edu (Katherine Riley)]
#26 Norfolk,VA Cemetery Photos [jdool...@aol.com (JDool90830)]
#27 HILL ["Roger Lloyd" <rll...@tstonramp.co]
#28 Knight, Dr. Homer [James Walz <jrw...@earthlink.net>]
#29 Knight, Donald [James Walz <jrw...@earthlink.net>]
#30 Re: Newbie question: Follow up for [rmill...@worldnet.att.net (Bud ]
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X-Message: #1
Date: 8 Sep 1997 23:09:45 GMT
From: corn...@aol.com (Cornheart)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970908230...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: CA Birth Records
I don't think that is true. I have gone to the county recorders office in
Sacramento many times and gotten copies of birth certificates. I was never
asked if I was related. There is certain information that they will not
give out in relation to the information (e.g., birth weight). Otherwise,
for $13 they will give you a certified copy. If you don't need the
certified copy, you can just write down the info (including cert number)
from the microfilm.
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X-Message: #2
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 22:44:24 GMT
From: paul_bu...@broder.com (Paul Burchfield)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v1v88$6k2$8...@ha2.rdc1.sfba.home.com>
Subject: Re: World family tree?
In article <341392...@intersatx.net>, gatc...@intersatx.net (Bill Gatchell) wrote:
>I'm new to genealogy and came across family tree maker's "World family
>tree vol. 2." I had some good results when I did their online search,
>coming up with several matches to known Gatchell's I'm searching.
>I'd like some opinions of users of this software, success, etc.
Bill,
We receive wonderful stories every day from people who have used the Family
Archive CD collection (which includes the World Family Tree CDs) successfully.
We featured once such story at our
World Wide Web site. Find it at: http://www.familytreemaker.com/wftreun.html
Keep in mind that everything you purchase from us has a 90-day money-back
guarantee.
I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.
Sincerely, Family Tree Maker Deluxe Edition II:
Paul Burchfield Winner of the Software Publishers Association's
Broderbund Software, 1997 Excellence in Software Award for
Banner Blue division Best Home Productivity Software Program
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X-Message: #3
Date: 8 Sep 1997 23:14:55 GMT
From: ginn...@aol.com (Ginnysboy)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970908231...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Cambridge, MD Help Needed
Searching for information on the Rhea family in Carson's Neck/Cambridge
(Dorchester County) Maryland.
I would appreciate any guidance from any one in the Cambridge area on
where to go to be able to dig up information on my ancestors who settled in
the Carson's Neck area of Maryland.
The Family nmae was "Rhea" and I believe it was not a common name in that
area. It appears that most of the family on stayed in that area for about
two generations and then moved to Baltimore.
Here is the infomation that I have:
My Great Great Great Grandfather came to Dorchester County Maryland from
Scotland in 1814. His name was William Rhea, He passed away on July 24,
1869 (I have an obituary from the "Democrat and Herald" newspaper from
Cambridge.
It states he was a school teacher somewhere in that area and taught for 55
years, was a mathmetician, new Greek, Latin, and Hebrew. It also states
that after his arrival he went back to Scotland in about 1819 and brought
both of his parents a brother and sister back to America with him.
My Great Great Grandfather was Joseph H. Rhea born in Dorchester County
and Married a local Girl Named Ella Snow Speddin (Apparently from what I
have been told the Speddin Family was a prominent family)
What I am looking for:
Where graveyards are located in that area that I might be able to locate
Williams grave and there hopefully to find out who his wife and parents and
siblings might have been.
What records the local library might have that might point me in the
direction of finding out what school he might have taught at ...
Or if anyone who is from that area and has done research and came across
the Rhea family any information, records, gravesites, births, death records
that they might be able to share
Anyhelp anyone can give would be much appreciated!
Thanks in advance for your help!
Ray Buckingham
Ginn...@AOL.Com
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X-Message: #4
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 16:34:11 -0400
From: Jon Boehm <jb...@bright.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Sharing your GEDCOM file?
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You know, somehow that makes alot of sense. Maybe some of US should
read between the "lines"(:>)
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X-Message: #5
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 20:48:30 GMT
From: warw...@intercoast.com.au (Warwick J.Empson)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34146438...@news.acay.com.au>
Subject: Re: Circular Diagram Software
"Theodore E. Evans, P. E." <tee...@erols.com> wrote:
>I've seen circular diagrams that were hand made and they are very
>interesting. I understand that there is software out there somewhere that
>will produce circulare diagrams. Does anyone know if this is a separate
>piece of software or is it a feature of a larger package. Your help in
>locating this would be greatly appreciated.
>
>A circular diagram starts with a center circle with the initial person's
>name, then a larger circle divided into two parts with the parents' names
>and other information, then a third circle that is divided into four parts
>with the grandparents' names in it, and so on.
>
>As far as genealogy software, I use Family Origins because it's cheap and
>does everything I want it to do except generate circular diagrams. It also
>exports and imports GEDCOM files.
>
Have a look at Corel Family Publisher, it definately does make up circular or
'fan' charts. Details must be imported via a Gedcom
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X-Message: #6
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 02:44:40 GMT
From: deke...@mindspring.com
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Thus spake kda...@aol.com (KDAD40) on 8 Sep 1997 18:27:27 GMT:
>Diana Holmes asks:
>
>>I will be on a business trip in New England and I will have an entire
>>Saturday for doing research. Can anyone recommend the best place to
>>spend my day?
>
>If you are in the Boston area, try the
>
>New England Historical and Genealogical Society
> 99 Newbury Street
>Boston MA 02114-2120
>e-mail 74777...@compuserve.com for hours and other information (I am
>not sure of their Saturday hours)
>
>Reg Pitts
>KDA...@aol.com
>
>
The other good place is the Boston Public Library, Boylston Street.
Not far from NEHGS. Between the two, you should have access to just
about everything that's readily available.
Your biggest problem will be that one Saturday isn't nearly enough
time.
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X-Message: #7
Date: 8 Sep 1997 16:50:24 -0700
From: Whos...@aol.com
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <97090819483...@emout16.mail.aol.com>
Subject: Re: BEST GENEALOGY IN HOUSTON
I think you are looking for a gynecologist, not a genealogist. A genealogist
studies their ancestors. A gynecologist studies a woman's reproductive
organs.
Tammy
In a message dated 97-09-08 19:09:56 EDT, you write:
<< Hi everybody,
I was wondering if any of you people know which genealogy is good in
Houston.
My mother is coming to Houston to have a check up and we are not sure
which doctor should do the check up.
She has a growth inside of her and maybe she need to do an operation
called something like "historectomy". (maybe it is wrongly spelled, but
it sounded like that).
She wanted to find the best doctor in Houston as she will be coming this
December.
If any of you know of any Genealogist and would recommend him for my
Mom, i would appreciate it very much to reply me.
ps: My mom would prefer a male doctor about 50 years old as he would
probably be more experienced.
Thank you again.
Sincerely,
SK.
>>
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X-Message: #8
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 03:02:21 GMT
From: deke...@mindspring.com
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Newbie question: Follow up for Paul B.
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Thus spake paul_bu...@broder.com (Paul Burchfield) on Mon, 08 Sep
1997 22:36:31 GMT:
>
>Data entry is done in one typeface. You could define a custom field and then
>include it in a tree in a typeface different than the other items you display.
>
>
Very interesting, Paul. How exactly do you do this?
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X-Message: #9
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 18:17:45 -0500
From: Barbara Webb <web...@pop3.cris.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341487...@pop3.cris.com>
Subject: Naturalization Application?
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I've obtained the declaration of intent and actual naturalization
documents for several of my ancestors. I keep hearing about a
naturalization application, though. Does this have more information on
it, such as town of birth? The documents I have are the ones the county
clerk sent me, but I'm wondering if I'm missing something...
Thanks for any help.
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X-Message: #10
Date: 9 Sep 1997 00:37:04 GMT
From: tch...@aol.com (TCH6535)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909003...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Family Origins Ver 6.0 - Anyone used it yet?
I have been sent an upgrade notice.
Is the CD-ROM disk compatible with Windows 3.1 and Windows NT?
Regards,
Terry
Terris 'Terry' C. Howard (tch...@aol.com)
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X-Message: #11
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 20:36:45 -0400
From: Peter Schultz <schu...@erols.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34149A...@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Princess Diana
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I remember reading that Princess Diana was also related to
actor Humphrey Bogart.
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X-Message: #12
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 20:53:05 -0400
From: Ken Nelson <kne...@mail1.nai.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34149D...@ct1.nai.net>
Subject: Militar Bases
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I am running into some situations where the individual was born on a
military base. My question concerns the county and city the military
base are considered for genealogy purposes. And would the state have
their Birth Certificates on file or would that be a federal thing.
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X-Message: #13
Date: 9 Sep 97 01:12:31 GMT
From: "James L. Edenfield" <e...@hom.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbcbd$06c2c5c0$457ed8cc@default>
Subject: 25,300+ NAMES DATABASE FREE ACCESS
There are over 25,300 names and 3300 surnames at
http://www.hom.net/~egs
Absolutely FREE ACCESS!!
Completely Searchable!!!
Thanks
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X-Message: #14
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 01:24:37 GMT
From: maxhe...@clo.com (Thomas the Inquisitive)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3414a382...@news.clo.com>
Subject: Re: Royal Genealogy
David Marks <Da...@potts.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <5v08ll$9...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>, Barbara Hopper
><du...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> writes
>> >
>>> While Diana was alive, if Prince Charles married again (not to Diana), he
>>> could not become king - correct?
>>
>>Right, he could not. In the Anglican church, you cannot re-marry if you
>>have an ex-mate still living.
>
>It is in fact possible (and very common) for someone who is divorced and whose
>ex-spouse is still alive to remarry in the Church of England. (Not all vicars
>will agree to carrying out such a marriage, but many will). The debate in the
>case of Prince Charles centres around the desirability of this happening since
>the monarch is also the Head of the Church and many churchmen (not all) believe
>that it would be improper to have a divorced head of the church. Hope this adds
>to your excellent explanation. Cheers-
>David Marks
I have to jump in here with my 2 cents worth too, with regards to the
statement:
"In the Anglican church, you cannot re-marry if you have an ex-mate
still living."
I have to rebutt that statement. We live in Canada. My husband's
family has been Anglican for several generations, and he was a very
active member of the Anglican church all his life growing up, til
about age 25 or so. (acted as a Server in his church too)
i came along in his life when he was bout 28 and he wanted to get
married. He had a previous wife who he was divorced from, who was
(and is still today) living, and he had 2 living children. I too had
a previous husband who I was divorced from, who was (and is still
today) living, and I had 1 living child. We couldn't just walk up to
the church and say "hay, marry us", but we were able to get permission
from the church to do so, and we did. We had to wait about 1 yr for
permission and we had to attend "pre-marital" classes in order to be
given permission (which were great! and much enjoyed!) and we had a
BIG church wedding, with a full communion after the ceremony for the
whole crowd who attended. We both wore "white" (neither of us ever
did that before) and we swore this would really be 'til death do us
part', and after 10 years we are still saying the same thing.
So I have to dispute your comment.
If you are Anglican, you can be divorced, having a living ex-spouse,
and remarry in the church.
I hope this helps. (but this has nothing to do with the Royal Family
I'm afraid.)
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X-Message: #15
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 21:34:27 -0400
From: DR & DW <rager...@sprintmail.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: NY voter registrations?
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I'm interested in finding a comprehensive record of recent NY State
voter registrations. Can someone tell me where I can obtain this?
Thank you.
Don Warren
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X-Message: #16
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 18:27:25 -0700
From: "John C. Popowich, Jr." <jedi...@msn.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <#8FFhAM...@upnetnews02.moswest.msn.net>
Subject: Popowich Family
I would like to hear from anyone who might have information on the Popowich
family. The name as far as I know is spelled correctly, but might have
been Popovich. The American side originated from New Jersey/New York area.
Also from family rememberance it is translated as "Daughter of the Pope".
I would really love to learn more about my family history and look forward
to any and all comments. If you want to email me directly, please contact
me at jedi...@msn.com.
Thanks,
John
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X-Message: #17
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 97 01:37:47 GMT
From: cwsu...@nr.infi.net (Charles Sullivan)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v299b$cgo...@nr.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Immigration Records
"John Hrusovszky" <jay...@tznet.com> wrote:
>Am having a heck of a time attempting to locate a date that 2 ancestors
>emmigrated to the United States.
>I don't believe the ship records listserv can help since all we know is an
>APPROX. year, and name of the
>person and country he lived in prior to coming to the USA. I do have a
>copy of "Declaration of Intention"
>records, but all it lists is the date and the name of the person, along
>with the country they lived in prior.
>What other types of records do we need to locate in order to establish a
>date these ancestors actually
>arrived in the US? Nothing on their death certificate or gravestone shows
>this.
>
>Thanks in advance.
About the only definitive record in general will be the entry in the ship's
passenger manifest. Unfortunately these are not fully indexed for all
ports for all time spans so it can take a lot of work to find someone. And
if your ancestor's name is John Smith, you might as well not bother.
Later naturalization papers may show a date of arrival, but these may or
may not be accurate, as some have found to their dismay when trying to
verify against a passeneger list.
Regards,
Charles Sullivan
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X-Message: #18
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 05:00:06 GMT
From: deke...@mindspring.com
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Militar Bases
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Thus spake Ken Nelson <kne...@ct1.nai.net> on Mon, 08 Sep 1997
20:53:05 -0400:
>I am running into some situations where the individual was born on a
>military base. My question concerns the county and city the military
>base are considered for genealogy purposes. And would the state have
>their Birth Certificates on file or would that be a federal thing.
I happen to have been born on an Air Force base in Ohio in 1952. My
birth certificate was on file with the county in which the base
hospital was physically located, which is NOT the county or city
usually given as the "location" of the base.
Don't know if this is typical, especially for other places or times.
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X-Message: #19
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 20:50:38 -0500
From: Ed Hall <edh...@telapex.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3414AB6E...@telapex.com>
Subject: Re: Princess Diana
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Shirley:
Diana is a descendant of James II, who was a descendant of William the
Conqueror. Colin Powell is also a descendant of William the
Conqueror...therefore, "Cousin."
Pam
Shirley Azvedo wrote:
> I have seen many posting today on Princess Diana. Does anyone out there
> know the relationship of Princess Diana to Colin Powell. In a speech
> she made, possibly a year ago in Washington DC, from up at the podium
> she greeted the ladies and gentlemen and Cousin Colin. As she greeted
> him she turned her head and smiled at him.
>
> I would appreciate anything anyone can tell me.
>
> Shirley Azvedo
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X-Message: #20
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 22:10:33 -0400
From: James A Honeychuck <jimh...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Ken Nelson wrote:
>
> I am running into some situations where the individual was born on a
> military base. My question concerns the county and city the military
> base are considered for genealogy purposes. And would the state have
> their Birth Certificates on file or would that be a federal thing.
In the United States, as a rule the birth record would be in the nearest
county. At an overseas base, the child's family would have registered
the birth with the U.S. Embassy or a U.S. Consulate in the "host
country."
Jim
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X-Message: #21
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 22:20:25 -0400
From: Peter Schultz <schu...@erols.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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When our son was born in Greece (while I worked at a U.S. base),
I was required to register the birth at the local Greek town hall,
and then to get him a passport I registered him at the U.S. embassy
using U.S.Governemnt Form FS-240, "Report of a Birth Abroad of a
U.S. Citizen." I assume the State Department has a record of such
registered births.
//P.S.
James A Honeychuck wrote:
>
> Ken Nelson wrote:
> >
> > I am running into some situations where the individual was born on a
> > military base. My question concerns the county and city the military
> > base are considered for genealogy purposes. And would the state have
> > their Birth Certificates on file or would that be a federal thing.
>
> In the United States, as a rule the birth record would be in the nearest
> county. At an overseas base, the child's family would have registered
> the birth with the U.S. Embassy or a U.S. Consulate in the "host
> country."
>
> Jim
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X-Message: #22
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 19:21:58 -0700
From: "Roger Lloyd" <rll...@tstonramp.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v2bsh$ehu$1...@madmax.keyway.net>
Subject: LLOYD> TN, MO 1844-
http://www.geocities.com/heartland/meadows/7476
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X-Message: #23
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 21:38:48 -0700
From: TheDonL <The...@concentric.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Genealogy Seminar
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The Butler County Chapter of The Ohio Genealogical Society and
The Southwest Butler County Genealogical Society are sponsoring the
Autumn Leaves Genealogical Seminar at the Marcum Conference Center at
Miami University in Oxford, Ohio on Saturday, 1 November 1997 between
8:00 am to 4:00 pm.
Principal speaker is Dr. Philip R. Shriver, former president of Miami
University, Professor of History.
Seminar topics include: Beginning Genealogy,
Researching Ohio, Indiana and Kentucky,
German Research,
Vital Statistics,
Records Centers,
Computer Programs and Usage,
Research Centers - Cincinati, Ft. Wayne
Door prizes, surname board, handouts, society information and a vendor
area.
Advance registration before October 20, 1997 -- $22.00
LATE REGISTRATION OR AT THE DOOR --------------- $27.00
========= price includes lunch ===========
For more information or registration, contact:
Ann Elam
362 S Eastview Parkway
Hamilton, Ohio 45015-1806
----- or for information ------
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X-Message: #24
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 19:21:28 -0700
From: "Roger Lloyd" <rll...@tstonramp.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v2brj$ehr$1...@madmax.keyway.net>
Subject: WHALEY> VA, KY, MO
http://www.geocities.com/heartland/meadows/7476
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X-Message: #25
Date: 9 Sep 1997 02:22:52 GMT
From: kar...@bu.edu (Katherine Riley)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v2bts$d65$1...@news1.bu.edu>
Subject: Re: New England Research Advice
The New England Historic Genealogical Society has the following hours:
Sunday: Closed
Monday: Closed
Tuesday: 9-5
Wed-Thur.: 9-9
Friday: 9-5
Saturday: 9-5
KDAD40 (kda...@aol.com) wrote:
: Diana Holmes asks:
: >I will be on a business trip in New England and I will have an entire
: >Saturday for doing research. Can anyone recommend the best place to
: >spend my day?
: If you are in the Boston area, try the
: New England Historical and Genealogical Society
: 99 Newbury Street
: Boston MA 02114-2120
: e-mail 74777...@compuserve.com for hours and other information (I am
: not sure of their Saturday hours)
: Reg Pitts
: KDA...@aol.com
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X-Message: #26
Date: 9 Sep 1997 02:33:25 GMT
From: jdool...@aol.com (JDool90830)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909023...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Norfolk,VA Cemetery Photos
I live near Forrest Lawn Cemetery, located on Granby Street in Norfolk, VA.
I would be happy to photograph an cemetery plot or marker - no charge,
just postage, etc. People have helped me and this is a way I can pay them
back, by helping others.
E-mail me and I'll see what I can do. Jan
Jan Dool you are invited to visit my homepage
http://members.aol.com/JDool90830/jano.htm
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X-Message: #27
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 22:35:52 -0700
From: "Roger Lloyd" <rll...@tstonramp.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5uit06$j3v$1...@madmax.keyway.net>
Subject: HILL
http://www.geocities.com/heartland/meadows/7476
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X-Message: #28
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 19:24:10 -0700
From: James Walz <jrw...@earthlink.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3414B3...@earthlink.net>
Subject: Knight, Dr. Homer
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Looking for descendents of Dr. Knight possibly in Forest Grove Oregon.
Will share Knight family history.
Thank you.
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X-Message: #29
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 19:27:50 -0700
From: James Walz <jrw...@earthlink.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3414B4...@earthlink.net>
Subject: Knight, Donald
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Looking doe descendents of Donald Knight possibly in Toppenish,
Washington.
Will share Knight family history.
Thank you.
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X-Message: #30
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 03:08:47 GMT
From: rmill...@worldnet.att.net (Bud in Fla)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v2ejq$o...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Newbie question: Follow up for Paul B.
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REF; Manual..Page 315...Formatting Text...
"You can assign a different format to each text item in your
view,including the title and footnote. For example, you might want to
make the names in your tree bold, or make them larger than the other
information in each box.
To Formate text in your view:
1. From the FORMAT menu, select TEXT FONT,STYLE,& SIZE..
You can also format text from the 'Items to include' dialog box
(described on pg 291)."
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Bud,in Fla
On Tue, 09 Sep 1997 03:02:21 GMT, deke...@mindspring.com; it was
posted:
...|>Thus spake paul_bu...@broder.com (Paul Burchfield) on Mon, 08 Sep
...|>1997 22:36:31 GMT:
...|>
...|>
...|>>
...|>>Data entry is done in one typeface. You could define a custom field and then
...|>>include it in a tree in a typeface different than the other items you display.
...|>>
...|>>
...|>
...|>Very interesting, Paul. How exactly do you do this?
----
Bud in Fla
<mailto:rmill...@worldnet.att.net>
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 68
Today's Topics:
#1 African American Genealogy [Christine Charity <ccharity@cchari]
#2 Re: Militar Bases [wrp...@micron.net]
#3 QUINN - Pittsburgh, PA [thoe...@aol.com (THoeypgh)]
#4 Families from Metzenseifen, Austri [thoe...@aol.com (THoeypgh)]
#5 Re: Family Origins Ver 6.0 - Anyon [phili...@aol.com (PhilipC938)]
#6 Re: ? Mac Geneolgy Software [H...@REMOVETHIScarebear.demon.co.uk]
#7 Re: Royal Genealogy [durle...@aol.com (DurleyPapa)]
#8 Re: Family Origins Ver 6.0 - Anyon [pitt...@aol.com (Pittard3)]
#9 Re: Royal Genealogy [Michael Frisch <do...@wgn.net>]
#10 Re: Searching for Noble's [Brenda...@xtra.co.nz (BJ)]
#11 HILL, Walter; N Sandwich, N H; 187 ["Margaret Johnson" <mjohnson@compu]
#12 NY 1860 index [bal...@aol.com (BALKI2)]
#13 Malan [argb...@aol.com (Argbasur)]
#14 CRAMER [deborah <wic...@iafrica.com>]
#15 Re: DEATH OF PRINCESS DIANA [David <da...@caketown.demon.co.uk>]
#16 VETTER [wayn...@bit.net.au]
#17 KIKHOFEL [wayn...@bit.net.au]
#18 MAKE QUICK CASH!!! THIS IS FOR REA ["J.J." <jagg...@geocities.com>]
#19 New York, can anyone help me find ["Robert B." <r...@ROBBREN.demon.co.u]
#20 Fwd: Broderbund and Rootsweb Is th [Kitt...@aol.com]
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X-Message: #1
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 22:54:04 -0400
From: Christine Charity <ccha...@ccharity.com>
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African American Genealogy website has Freedmen's Bureau records (see
sample report below), lists of emigrants to Liberia, fugitive slave
cases, lists of emancipated slaves, genealogy message board and more.
Christine's Genealogy Website
http://ccharity.com
Freedmen's Bureau Records
http://ccharity.com/freedmens/freedmens.htm
Emigrants to Liberia (includes both ex-slaves and free born African
Americans)
http://ccharity.com/liberia/liberia.htm
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Transcribed from National Archives Microfilm Publication M821 Roll 32=20
"Registered Reports of Murders and Outrages Sept 1866 - July 1867"
Freedmen's Bureau at Meridian (Texas)
September the 25th 1866=20
L. K. Morton A. A. A. Genl.
Sir I received yours of the 11th inst. Calling for a report of all
murders of Union men and Freedmen and outrages committed on them in my
district since the close of the rebellion. There has been no Union men
killed here since the rebellion that I know of but several a short time
before, as to the Freedmen there has been several. Harrison Hendricks
killed one in August 1865. Gipson killed one about the same time. Wm.
Richards whipped a boy early in 1865 until he died in August from the
effects by the name of Luke Adams he also whipped a Negro man nearly to
death and supposed he did as he was never seen any more. Two other
Freedmen was found hung to one tree. I have been unable to find out who
committed the act. These is all the murders that has come to my
knowledge since the rebellion has ceased----as to the abuse of Freedmen
the following cases have been reported to me and some of them has been
tried and fined.=20
First is a freedman named Tony McCrary was taken by a mob and castrated
in August 1865. Doct. Bell castrated him for an attempted rape on his
young mistress. Judge Thos. Ford witnessed the operation and knows all
the parties.=20
As to flogging it has been common. Wm. Patillo flogged Minerva in August
1865 and has not paid her for her work he now resides at Miligan. John
G. Heath forced two freedmen to give him receipts without paying them
for their labor last February he has run to Arkansas. Martha Page
flogged two Freedmen in Sept 1865. Wm. Richardson flogged Anthony a
freedman in July 1865. Jas. Abby flogged a freedwoman in Sept 1865. Geo.
F. Sparks shot at a freedwoman named Mariah in Oct 1865 for claiming her
freedom at S. D. Greens residence. Jane Galthing flogged the following
Freedmen since June 1865: Susan and Nolsa in August 1865; Hannah & Gavin
in Sept 1865. J. D. Number flogged Caroline in August 1865. James Byrd
shot at a Freedman named Alex Ander in February 1866. Richard Davison
flogged Jinny on Jany 1866. Johnathan McFadden flogged Enoch in April
1866. A. C. Pearce flogged Daniel gave him 1000 lashes last April for an
attempt to commit a rape and flogged another Freedmen nearly to death
for saying he was as free as anyone. John O'Dell flogged Joe Shelton and
James Regan in July 1866. Robert Bicknell flogged Hannah & Albert,
Freedmen. Jesse Willbanks flogged Nancy Robinson in August
1866.=20
There has been some trafick in Negroes since the rebellion ceased. Peter
Hickman sold two to Doct. Thomas Womack in Sept 1865 he also sold two to
Simpson Holoway and two Wm. Richard. I have had the following of the
above up and tried them and fined them, Martha Page, James Abby, J. M.
McFadden, T. C. Alexander, Robt. Bicknell, Jesse Willbanks, John Odell
all the others is at large and without troops I can do nothing with
them. I must refer you to my report to your office of last August for
the particulars in the cases of Hendricks, Richards and the Pearces. The
case of Gipson he simply killed the Freedman and left this part of the
state. Please not let my name be made use of in any action the
government may take against these parties as a man would not live one
week if it was known that he had reported them. I hear of two men above
here some 40 miles that yet holds their Blacks in bondage their names
are John Anderson and Alford Loyd. I sent them orders to release the
Blacks, they sent word back they had paid for the Negroes and the
government should not rope
them in any such way.=20
Philip Howard Sub.
Asst. Com. B. R. F. & A. L.=20
=A9 Christine's Genealogy Website
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X-Message: #2
Date: 9 Sep 1997 03:23:45 GMT
From: wrp...@micron.net
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Militar Bases
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We were USAF when our two children were born. 1st birth was registered in county and state in which
he was born. Child born 1961 in Michigan so would not have bee included in census until 1970 in Idaho
2nd birth overseas was registered with American Embassy in that country and Proof of Citizenship was
gotten with the U.S. State Department upon return to the United States. I really don't know if our family
would have been included in a census count overseas or not. We were in Okinawa at time of 2nd birth
in 1967 and would have been included in census in Idaho in 1970 also.
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X-Message: #3
Date: 9 Sep 1997 03:41:06 GMT
From: thoe...@aol.com (THoeypgh)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909034...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: QUINN - Pittsburgh, PA
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Hi,
I'm looking for any information on Rose Quinn (b1849, d1908) who was
married to Nicholas Hoey. They lived in the Soho district of Pittsburgh on
Tustin Street. Two other related Quinn's may be James Quinn (b1851, d
1905) and Neil Quinn (b1847, d 1900). All three are buried in Calvary
Cemetary in Pittsburgh.
if you have any info please email me at thoe...@aol.com
Thanks,
Tom Hoey
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X-Message: #4
Date: 9 Sep 1997 03:45:02 GMT
From: thoe...@aol.com (THoeypgh)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909034...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Families from Metzenseifen, Austria (Germany?)
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I am looking for information on families that immigrated to the United
States from Metzenseifen, in Austria (or Germany depending on which of my
relatives that you ask). The families or individuals that came over
include the following:
FOLDVARY QUALLICH
FRIEDEL SANDS
GEDEON SCHMOTZER
KUND (or KUNDT) STARK
ORIENT WITKOFSKY
If you have any information or need any info on the above please e-mail me
at thoe...@aol.com.
Thanks,
Tom Hoey
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X-Message: #5
Date: 9 Sep 1997 04:01:27 GMT
From: phili...@aol.com (PhilipC938)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909040...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Family Origins Ver 6.0 - Anyone used it yet?
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>I have been sent an upgrade notice.
>
>Is the CD-ROM disk compatible with Windows 3.1 and Windows NT?
>
>Regards,
>Terry
>Terris 'Terry' C. Howard (tch...@aol.com)
I don't know about Windows NT Terry, but the CD is good
with both Windows 3.x and Windows 95.
I loaded my copy tonight in Windows 3.1 and it seems to be working fine.
Phil
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X-Message: #6
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 07:00:48 +0100
From: H...@REMOVETHIScarebear.demon.co.uk (HLA)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <HLA-090997...@carebear.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: ? Mac Geneolgy Software
MIME-Version: 1.0
I'm presently trying out GENE 4.2 . I'm happy with it so far.
For Mac software I try "http://www.download.com/
I've done quite well from there !!
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X-Message: #7
Date: 9 Sep 1997 06:29:33 GMT
From: durle...@aol.com (DurleyPapa)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909062...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Royal Genealogy
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Thank you for this fascinating information. I sincerely appreciate both
the questions and the answers. And I for one thank the Almight that Bill
Clinton doesn't have anything to do with any monarchy!
Mike McLain
Independence, MO
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X-Message: #8
Date: 9 Sep 1997 06:44:50 GMT
From: pitt...@aol.com (Pittard3)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909064...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Family Origins Ver 6.0 - Anyone used it yet?
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You have to order the specific os, it is in 16 bit and 32 bit.
anneb...@juno.com
http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/3387
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X-Message: #9
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 00:34:14 -0700
From: Michael Frisch <do...@wgn.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Royal Genealogy
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Barbara
I was told that the Queen will not alow Charles to become the King.
For reasons Im not sure.
But I was told that the Queen will disolve the monarchy before she dies
unless Charles abdecates and alows Wiliam to pass over him.
Is this true?
Micahel
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X-Message: #10
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 07:29:10 GMT
From: Brenda...@xtra.co.nz (BJ)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3414f880...@news.xtra.co.nz>
Subject: Re: Searching for Noble's
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On 6 Sep 1997 04:09:10 GMT, "Jason Smith" <jws...@airnet.net> wrote:
>I have alot of Nobles in my family mainly from Alabama and Georgia if any
>has any information please contact me and I will give more information.
>
Greetings, I have the following.
Father:Thomas Noble Born;1813 Died 1860
Mother:Thelinda Alcock
Child: Thomas Balfour NOBLE
Born:14-AUG-1836
Crosskeys Kildare Ireland
Child: William George Noble
Born:1838
Crosskeys Kildare Ireland
Brendan Wilson
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X-Message: #11
Date: 9 Sep 1997 02:48:07 GMT
From: "Margaret Johnson" <mjoh...@computer-services.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbcca$9c835680$2cf965ce@mjohnson>
Subject: HILL, Walter; N Sandwich, N H; 1878-1912
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I am seeking information on my ggrandfather, I very little about his
family.
Walter married Florence E Peck, 1894 in N Sandwich, N H. They had 2
children, Irene & Walter.
Walter was born 1878 & died abt 1912.
Any infor would be appreciated.
MJ
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X-Message: #12
Date: 9 Sep 1997 10:17:32 GMT
From: bal...@aol.com (BALKI2)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909101...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: NY 1860 index
MIME-Version: 1.0
Would anyone be willing to look up someone in the index for the 1860 New
York census for me? I am in the UK, and dont have access. Would be happy
to look something up here in return.
Thanks-
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X-Message: #13
Date: 9 Sep 1997 10:57:31 GMT
From: argb...@aol.com (Argbasur)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909105...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Malan
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Looking for geneology info. for the Jean Daniel Malan family from
Angrogna, Torino, Italy
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X-Message: #14
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 13:04:15 -0700
From: deborah <wic...@iafrica.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3415AB...@iafrica.com>
Subject: CRAMER
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Any information on the genealogy of the Cramer surname?
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X-Message: #15
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 08:11:09 +0100
From: David <da...@caketown.demon.co.uk>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <cT$CjJANa...@caketown.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: DEATH OF PRINCESS DIANA
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In article <19970907211...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, GadgtQween
<gadgt...@aol.com> writes
>
>To me the Queen's bow, as Diana passed, said you were right and we were
>wrong, a change in our methods must take place.
However, it seems that not all the lessons have been learned ! It has
since been announced that Buckingham Palace offered, prior to the
funeral (I think) to restore Di's title, an offer which, IMHO, the
Spencer family quite rightly refused. Some may see this as a genuine
offer; I see it as a misguided (some would say insensitive or cynical)
attempt to salvage a little goodwill from a situation which has been
handled quite appallingly by the Royal Family. Whoever their advisers
are, they should be got rid of immediately.
--
David
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X-Message: #16
Date: 9 Sep 1997 11:43:21 GMT
From: wayn...@bit.net.au
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v3cop$kiv$2...@hermes.bit.net.au>
Subject: VETTER
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I am researching the VETTER FAMILY in germany about 1819. in Gerswalde.
The guys name is Christian friederich who married Marie Dorothea Schulz ( nee
Deutschlander).
Can anybody help me.
Thank you wayne.
An aussie.
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X-Message: #17
Date: 9 Sep 1997 11:40:09 GMT
From: wayn...@bit.net.au
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v3cip$kiv$1...@hermes.bit.net.au>
Subject: KIKHOFEL
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I am researching the KIKHOFEL FAMILY . Is there anybody doing the same.
I am searhing up to Carl Kikhofel born about 1835 in Meltzov.
thank you
wayne
an aussie.
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X-Message: #18
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 07:27:43 -0400
From: "J.J." <jagg...@geocities.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341532...@geocities.com>
Subject: MAKE QUICK CASH!!! THIS IS FOR REAL!!!
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I hate these posts as much as you do. Please just give me a few
minutes of your time. It will be worth it, I assure you. For only $5
how can you go wrong? THIS REALLY DOES WORK!!!!
It only cost me the postage and $5. READ ON!
Hello! I've got some awesome news that I think you need to
take two minutes to read if you have ever thought "How could I make
some serious cash in a hurry???," or been in serious debt, ready to
do almost anything to get the money needed to pay off those bill
collectors. So grab a snack, a warm cup of coffee, or a glass of
your favorite beverage, get comfortable, and listen to this interesting,
exciting find!
Let me start by saying that I FINALLY FOUND IT! That's
right! I found it! And I HATE GET RICH QUICK SCHEMES!! I
hate those schemes like multi-level marketing, mail-order schemes,
envelope stuffing scams, 900 number scams--the list goes on
forever. I have tried every darn get rich quick scheme out there
over the past 12 years. I somehow got on mailing lists for people
looking to make money (more like "desperate stupid people who
will try anything for money!"). Well, when I was a teenager, these
claims to "get me rich quick" sounded irresistible! I would shell out
$14.95 here, $29.95 there, $24.95 here, and another $49.95 there.
I had maxed out my new Circuit City Card AND my Visa...I was
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when I got the mail. I recognized it right away. I can smell a
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out a scam easily. WAS I WRONG!! I LOVE THE INTERNET!!!
I was scanning thru a newsgroup and saw an article
titled GET CASH FAST!! I thought, "Here on the Internet?
Well, I'll just have to see what schemes could possibly be on the
internet." The article described a way to MAIL A ONE DOLLAR
BILL TO ONLY FIVE PEOPLE AND MAKE $50,000 IN
CASH WITHIN 4 WEEKS! Well, the more I thought about it, the
more I became very curious. Why? Because of the way it worked
AND BECAUSE IT WOULD ONLY COST ME FIVE DOLLARS
(AND FIVE STAMPS). THAT'S ALL I EVER PAY--EVER!!!
Okay, so maybe the $50,000 in cash was a tough amount to
reach--but it was possible. I knew that I could at least get a return
of $1,000 or so. So I did it!! As per the instructions in the article, I
mailed out ("snail mail" for you email fanatics) a single dollar bill to
each of the five people on the list that was contained in the article.
I included a small note with the dollar that stated "Please Add Me
To Your List." I then removed the first position name of the five
names listed and moved everyone up one position, putting my
name in position five of the list. This is how the money starts
rolling in! I then took this revised article--now with my name on the
list--and REPOSTED IT ON AS MANY NEWSGROUPS AND
LOCAL BULLETIN BOARD MESSAGE AREAS THAT I
KNEW.
I then waited to watch the money come in, prepared to
maybe receive about $1,000 to $1,500 in cash or so. But what a
welcome surprise when those envelopes kept coming in!!! I knew
what they were as soon as I saw the return addresses from people
all over the world--most from the U.S., some from Canada, and
even some from Australia! I tell you, THAT WAS EXCITING!!
So, how much did I get in total return? $1000? $5000? Not even!!!
I received a total of $23,343!!! I couldn't believe it!! I now have a
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almost eight months, I am ready to do it again!!! Maybe it is
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DEPENDS ON YOU, THE INDIVIDUAL!
You must follow through and repost this article everywhere
you can think of! The number of postings you make will determine
how much cash will arrive in your mailbox!! It's just too easy to pass
up!!! Let's review the reasons why you should do this. The only cost
factors are the five stamps, the five envelopes and the five one dollar
bills that you send out to the listed names by snail mail (U.S. Postal
Service mail). Then just simply repost the article (WITH YOUR NAME
ADDED) to all the newsgroups and local BBS's you can. Then sit
back and enjoy walking (you can run if you like!) down your driveway
to your mailbox and scoop up your rewards!!
We all have five dollars to put into such an easy, effortless
investment with SPECTACULAR, REALISTIC RETURNS OF
$15,000 to $25,000 in about 3-5 weeks! So HOLD OFF ON
THOSE LOTTERY NUMBERS FOR TODAY, EAT AT HOME
TONIGHT INSTEAD OF GETTING TAKEOUT FROM McDONALD'S,
AND INVEST FIVE DOLLARS IN THIS AMAZING MONEY
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INSTRUCTIONS:
1. Take a sheet of paper and write on it the following:
"Please add my name to your list." Make sure you also include your
name and address. This creates a service out of this money-making
system and thus makes it completely legal. You are not just randomly
sending a dollar to someone--you are paying one dollar for a legitimate
service. I assure you again that this is completely legal!
2. Now fold this sheet of paper around a dollar bill (no checks
or money orders). Put them into an envelope and send it
on its way to the five people listed. The folding of the paper
around the bill will insure its arrival to its recipient. THIS STEP IS
IMPORTANT!!
3. Now, listen carefully. Here's where you get YOUR
MONEY COMING TO YOUR MAILBOX. Look at the list of
five people. Remove the first name from position 1 and move
everyone on the list up one slot. Position 2 name will
now move to the position 1 slot , position 3 will now become
position 2, position 4 will become 3, position 5 will become 4.
Now, put your name, address, zipcode AND COUNTRY in position 5.
4. Now, upload this updated file to as many newsgroups and
local bulletin boards' message areas and file sections as possible.
Give a catchy description of the file so it gets noticed!! Example:
"NEED FAST CASH?, HERE IT IS!" or "NEED CASH TO PAY
OFF YOUR DEBTS??", etc. The more uploads the more
money you will make, and of course, the more money the others on
the list will make too. LET'S ALL TAKE CARE OF EACH
OTHER BY BEING HONEST AND BY PUTTING FORTH 120
PERCENT INTO THIS PROFITABLE AND AMAZING
SYSTEM!!! You'll reap the benefits, believe me!!! Set a goal for
the number of total uploads you'll post, such as 15-20 postings or
more! Always have a goal in mind!!! If you can UUE encode the
file when uploading, that will make it easier for the people to
receive it and have it downloaded to their hard drive. That way they
get a copy of the article right on their computer without hassles of
viewing and then saving the article from the File menu. Don't alter
the file type. Leave it as an MS-DOS text file. The best test is to be
able to view this file using Microsoft's Notepad or WordPad. If the
margins look right without making the screen slide left or right when
at the ends of the sentences, you're in business!
5. If you need help uploading, simply ask the sysop of the
BBS, or "POST" a message on a newsgroup asking how to post a
file. Tell them who your internet provider is and PEOPLE WILL
ALWAYS BE GLAD TO HELP. I would try to describe how to
do it but there are simply too many internet software packages with
slightly different yet relatively simple ways to post or upload a file.
Just ask for help or look in the help section for "posting." Place a
one-line statement in the main body section of the message
post screen. Something like "Download this to read how to get
cash arriving in your mailbox with no paybacks!" or whatever. Just
make sure it represents its true feasibility, NOT something
like: "Get one million dollars flooding into your mailbox in two
days!" You'll never get ANY responses!
6. And this is the step I like. JUST SIT BACK AND
ENJOY LIFE BECAUSE CASH IS ON THE WAY!! Expect
to see a little money start to trickle in around 2 weeks, but AT
ABOUT WEEKS 3 AND 4, THE MONEY STORM WILL HIT
YOUR MAILBOX!! All you have to do is take it out of the mailbox
and try not to scream too loud (outside anyway) when you realize
YOU HIT THE BIG TIME AT LAST!!
7. So, go PAY OFF YOUR BILLS AND DEBTS and then
get that something special you always wanted or buy that special
person in your life (or the one you want in your life) a gift they'll
never forget. ENJOY LIFE!
8. Now when you get low on this money supply, simply
re-activate this file again, reposting it in the old places where
you originally posted and possibly some new places you now know
of. Don't ever lose this file. Always keep a copy within reach for
when you ever need cash. THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE TOOL
THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS RE-USE TIME AND TIME AGAIN
WHEN CASH IS NEEDED!
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THE NAMES LIST THE NAMES LIST THE NAME LIST
***************************************************************************
HONESTY IS WHAT MAKES THIS PROGRAM SUCCESSFUL!!!
1. Mark Benion
3332 Great Neck Road
Amityville, NY 11701 USA
2. ICEICC
P.O. Box 2037
P.V.P ,CA 90275 USA
3. Paul Kim
2323 Wellington Est.
Chesterfield,MO 63017 USA
4. Behrang Parvin
27961 N. Ridgecove Ct.
Rancho Palos Verdes ,CA 90275 USA
5. M. Jones
3154 Sunnyhollow
Cincinnati, OH 45239
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NOTE: Keep a list of everyone that sends you a dollar
(remember, they asked you to add them to your list) and always
keep an eye on the local postings of this file, just to make sure
that everyone is playing the game fairly. You know where your
name should be. AGAIN, HONESTY IS THE BEST THING
WE HAVE GOING FOR US ON THIS PLAN. By the way, if you try
to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the
list and not sending the money to the people already included, you
will not get much. I know someone who did this and only got about
$150 (and that's after two months). Then he sent the 5 bills, people
added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10,000!
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X-Message: #19
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 09:39:06 +0100
From: "Robert B." <r...@ROBBREN.demon.co.uk>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <AAluwHAq...@robbren.demon.co.uk>
Subject: New York, can anyone help me find my NY cousins
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Somers, Cahill, Quinn, Clements, Halstead, Higgins
Five of my G>grans siblings left Ireland and settled in NY circa 1895.
Patrick & Elizabeth Quinn, Patrick & Mary Cahill, (John Somers and
Catherine Somers. married in NY City). One other name Higgins not sure
where this fits in.
My late cousin Kathryn from Walden prior to her death at 93 told she
believed they lived in Queens ? but had not see them or the children for
many years so was unable to help. Halsteads lived in Yonkers.
I have photo's of many of them but no address's. Two of the Cahill sons
Richard & John died in tragic accidents, one fell from a fairground
wheel and the other fell down a lift shaft, both had families.
I would very much like to find my cousins and to locate the resting
place of those that have died.
Can anyone help with this. I could perhaps guess some of the years
Robert B.
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X-Message: #20
Date: 9 Sep 1997 06:00:41 -0700
From: Kitt...@aol.com
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <97090909000...@emout02.mail.aol.com>
Subject: Fwd: Broderbund and Rootsweb Is this true
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Forwarded message:
From: dsu...@cts.com (Donna Suarez)
To: GENC...@rootsweb.com
Date: 97-09-08 23:46:24 EDT
The following e-mail speaks for itself. Apparently, Broderbund plans
on
using the Internet as a source for their CD? As most of you know,
Dr.
Brian Leverich is the 'owner' of Rootweb along with Karen
Isaacson.
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 08:00:03 -0700
From: Brian Leverich
<leve...@rootsweb.com>
Reply-To: (ommitted)
CC: "Dr. Brian Leverich"
<leve...@rootsweb.com>
-- Your message was: (from ommitted)
Doc
noticed that someone was hitting my site repeatedly. Afterawhile
he
couldn't even get into his home page. They were so strong they
were
causing
havoc with all of dsenter.com.... It was FTM's robot --
grabbing my
database
information of Western Kentucky
Families.
------------------
Broderbund has beaten on RootsWeb,
too.
RootsWeb has locked them out of the parts of the site that we
could
easily protect, and told them we'll be sending them a bill for
every
additional byte they download from us.
We have a number of problems
with their activities:
o Their robot is wildly out of conformance
with standard
robot design, which is why it batters servers so
badly.
o Their robot ignores robots.txt files, which means
there's
no polite way to keep it out of places where it
shouldn't
be.
o They tend to download from sites at
peak hours.
o There's no privacy mechanism, or way for a Webmaster
to ask
Broderbund to remove links from its database if they've
downloaded inappropriate material.
o There's no regard
for copyrighted material.
o There's no guarantee that the
downloaded pages aren't going
to show up on CD-666 next month.
o The text fragments which Broderbund shows with the link, if
doubled or tripled in length, would often cause the user to
not need to visit the linked page at all. If Broderbund
ever does that (and it's a trivial software switch), those
guys will have effectively stolen every single
genealogist's Web pages.
What particularly annoys RootsWeb is
that Broderbund's indexing
effort really does have value and would probably
be a good idea if
they just behaved responsibly. Unfortunately, when we
offered to
open RootsWeb to them if they would just avoid damaging our
servers
and if they would carefully respect the rights of the
1,700
independent Websites at RootsWeb, what we got back was dead
air.
*sigh* -B
--
Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator,
soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L
RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative
http://www.rootsweb.com/
P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798
leve...@rootsweb.com
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 69
Today's Topics:
#1 Cemetery listings [John <in...@cemtracker.com>]
#2 Re: Families from Metzenseifen, Au [bs...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Ernest ]
#3 WALL surname research [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
#4 CADLE surname research [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
#5 KERBY surname research [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
#6 WILLENBORG surname research [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
#7 LaPLACE surname research [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
#8 PLACE surname research [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
#9 HALL surname research [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
#10 ANNABLE surname research [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
#11 CHRISTIAN surname research [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
#12 LANHAM surname research [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
#13 MASON surname research [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
#14 LeBRUN surname research [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
#15 HUNTER surname research [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
#16 Jamaica [Lee Griggs <mseg...@worldnet.att.]
#17 DEATH OF A PRINCESS [bayo...@aol.com (BAYOU JAC)]
#18 SCHRIVER surname research [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
#19 PEEK surname research [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
#20 Gedcom "Reading" [dzi...@aol.com (DZIMMS)]
#21 Re: MAKE QUICK CASH!!! THIS IS FOR [rwill...@aol.com (RWilli1380)]
#22 #genealogy-help Thur 11 Sept Guest [Patricia Tidmarsh <ptidmars@shiva.]
#23 german translation of church recor [jam...@buffnet.net (Jim Szczodrow]
#24 Re: New England Research Advice [Debbie Dempsey <pro...@erols.com>]
#25 Re: Laptop's in research [mary stewart kyritsis <mkyritsi@ho]
#26 Re: Software [mary stewart kyritsis <mkyritsi@ho]
#27 Mailing lists [mary stewart kyritsis <mkyritsi@ho]
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X-Message: #1
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 05:55:40 -0700
From: John <in...@cemtracker.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341001...@cemtracker.com>
Subject: Cemetery listings
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Finding clues to your genealogy can be so much easier if you had help
from others.How about if you got to meet others that were researching
the same family as you are. Why don't you go to:
http://www.cemtracker.com/ and read our mission statement. It may be
just what your looking for!
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X-Message: #2
Date: 9 Sep 1997 13:20:15 GMT
From: bs...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Ernest Thode)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v3ief$h...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: Families from Metzenseifen, Austria (Germany?)
THoeypgh (thoe...@aol.com) writes:
> I am looking for information on families that immigrated to the United
> States from Metzenseifen, in Austria (or Germany depending on which of my
> relatives that you ask). The families or individuals that came over
> include the following:
>
> FOLDVARY QUALLICH
> FRIEDEL SANDS
> GEDEON SCHMOTZER
> KUND (or KUNDT) STARK
> ORIENT WITKOFSKY
> Tom Hoey
An expert on Metzenseifen people is
Duncan B. GARDINER
12961 Lake Ave.
Lakewood, OH 44107
Ernest THODE
--
Ernest Thode, Washington County Public Library,
Marietta, OH 45750-1973
bs...@freenet.carleton.ca
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X-Message: #3
Date: 9 Sep 1997 13:48:44 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909134...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: WALL surname research
Looking for information on WALL surname. Please contact me via email or
homepage if you have information that could help.
Thanks! Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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X-Message: #4
Date: 9 Sep 1997 13:47:24 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909134...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: CADLE surname research
Looking for information on CADLE surname. Please contact me via email or
homepage if you have information that could help.
Thanks! Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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X-Message: #5
Date: 9 Sep 1997 13:48:23 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909134...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: KERBY surname research
Looking for information on KERBY surname. Please contact me via email or
homepage if you have information that could help.
Thanks! Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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X-Message: #6
Date: 9 Sep 1997 13:48:01 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909134...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: WILLENBORG surname research
Looking for information on WILLENBORG surname. Please contact me via
email or homepage if you have information that could help.
Thanks! Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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X-Message: #7
Date: 9 Sep 1997 13:49:26 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909134...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: LaPLACE surname research
Looking for information on LaPLACE surname. Please contact me via email
or homepage if you have information that could help.
Thanks! Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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X-Message: #8
Date: 9 Sep 1997 13:49:03 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909134...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: PLACE surname research
Looking for information on PLACE surname. Please contact me via email or
homepage if you have information that could help.
Thanks! Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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X-Message: #9
Date: 9 Sep 1997 13:50:09 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909135...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: HALL surname research
Looking for information on HALL surname. Please contact me via email or
homepage if you have information that could help.
Thanks! Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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X-Message: #10
Date: 9 Sep 1997 13:51:37 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909135...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: ANNABLE surname research
Looking for information on ANNABLE surname. Please contact me via email
or homepage if you have information that could help.
Thanks! Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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X-Message: #11
Date: 9 Sep 1997 13:52:36 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909135...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: CHRISTIAN surname research
Looking for information on CHRISTIAN surname. Please contact me via email
or homepage if you have information that could help.
Thanks! Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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X-Message: #12
Date: 9 Sep 1997 13:50:52 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909135...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: LANHAM surname research
Looking for information on LANHAM surname. Please contact me via email or
homepage if you have information that could help.
Thanks! Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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X-Message: #13
Date: 9 Sep 1997 13:49:46 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909134...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: MASON surname research
Looking for information on MASON surname. Please contact me via email or
homepage if you have information that could help.
Thanks! Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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X-Message: #14
Date: 9 Sep 1997 13:52:02 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909135...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: LeBRUN surname research
Looking for information on LeBRUN surname. Please contact me via email or
homepage if you have information that could help.
Thanks! Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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X-Message: #15
Date: 9 Sep 1997 13:50:30 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909135...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: HUNTER surname research
Looking for information on HUNTER surname. Please contact me via email or
homepage if you have information that could help.
Thanks! Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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X-Message: #16
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 09:37:37 -0400
From: Lee Griggs <mseg...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341551...@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Jamaica
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I need a researcher in Jamaica to go by the Archives to
check on a surname from Denbigh, Clarendon Parish, Jamaica.
Please contact me by email direct at lgr...@msegroup.com
Thank you.
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X-Message: #17
Date: 9 Sep 1997 13:49:35 GMT
From: bayo...@aol.com (BAYOU JAC)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909134...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: DEATH OF A PRINCESS
I've dedicated a web page in Diana's Memory. PLease visit it.
<a href="http://members.aol.com/dearbornes/princess.html">The World's
Princess---Diana, Queen of Hearts</a>
http://members.aol.com/dearbornes/princess.html
BayouJac
Genealogy. It's the only way to dig...relatively speaking!!!
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X-Message: #18
Date: 9 Sep 1997 13:51:12 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909135...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: SCHRIVER surname research
Looking for information on SCHRIVER surname. Please contact me via email
or homepage if you have information that could help.
Thanks! Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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X-Message: #19
Date: 9 Sep 1997 13:52:53 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909135...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: PEEK surname research
Looking for information on PEEK surname. Please contact me via email or
homepage if you have information that could help.
Thanks! Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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X-Message: #20
Date: 9 Sep 1997 14:03:18 GMT
From: dzi...@aol.com (DZIMMS)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909140...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Gedcom "Reading"
Can I just read a gedcom file in FTM ver 3.01? I just want to DL a gedcom
file from AOL and read the file. Is this possible in FTM? I don't necessarily
want to incorporate the file into my database.
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X-Message: #21
Date: 9 Sep 1997 14:27:51 GMT
From: rwill...@aol.com (RWilli1380)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909142...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: MAKE QUICK CASH!!! THIS IS FOR REAL!!!
Thanks for the information. Your letter has been forwarded to the IRS. I
will make a smooth 10% of the money that you make when the IRS does an
audit of your unreported income.
Keep up the good work.
Bob
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X-Message: #22
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 10:26:42 -0400
From: Patricia Tidmarsh <ptid...@shiva.Hunter.CUNY.EDU>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970909...@shiva.hunter.cuny.edu>
Subject: #genealogy-help Thur 11 Sept Guest Host xfhc-director
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8pm CST Thursday Sep 11 Guest-Host will be xfhc-director discussing
family history. The series on Dalnet will continue through
September. For directions to access IRC see http://www.irchelp.org and
use the server irc.dal.net. For AOL directions see
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/saint/aolhelp.htm.
#genealogy-help is a friendly, helpful, family-oriented channel on dalnet
and you will find people there most of the time. We look forward to
seeing you.
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X-Message: #23
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 10:31:20 -0500
From: jam...@buffnet.net (Jim Szczodrowski)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <jamessz-0909...@fppp22.buffnet.net>
Subject: german translation of church record - help
I've translated as best I can several church listings. if someone is so
inclined could you do the same?
I have the records on a web page -
http://www.buffnet.net/~jamessz/translation.html
you'll be able to type the information in on a form.
thank you
jim szczodrowski
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X-Message: #24
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 10:39:55 -0400
From: Debbie Dempsey <pro...@erols.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34155FBB...@erols.com>
Subject: Re: New England Research Advice
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Hi Diana!
Which Holmes line are you following? I may be able to give you a head
start, as I have a Holmes line from New England, which goes back to the
1600s. Let me know.
Debbie
Gregory M. Holmes wrote:
> I will be on a business trip in New England and I will have an entire
> Saturday for doing research. Can anyone recommend the best place to
> spend my day? I have traced my husband's family (Holmes) and they have
> extensive roots in Massachusetts from 1600-1850, specifically in
> Kingston and perhaps even in Boston. I have information about part of
> the family that was in Charlestown in the early 1800's.
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!!
>
> Diana Holmes
> dho...@banyan.com
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X-Message: #25
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 21:37:14 +0300
From: mary stewart kyritsis <mkyr...@hol.gr>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3412F4...@hol.gr>
Subject: Re: Laptop's in research
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Billy Jean Horne wrote:
>
> In the larger libraries it works fine but a laptop doesn't work well
> when the only place to put it is your laptop
In fact after wanting one for years and finally getting one, I find that
the risk of typos overpowers the need for speed -- I'm a fast typist but
mistakes do happen. Therefore I'm back to notebooks and photocopies.
But the laptop comes into its own when back at the motel, when getting
it all together so that the next day's work is more productive.
Regards,
Mary
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X-Message: #26
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 08:18:12 +0300
From: mary stewart kyritsis <mkyr...@hol.gr>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34138A...@hol.gr>
Subject: Re: Software
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PegVA wrote:
>
> I know this has been asked countless times, however...
> What is your favorite Genealogy? Briefly, why do you like it?
> pe...@aol.com
> Peg Seay Enroughty
> pe...@aol.com
Hi Peg. My vote goes to The Master Genealogist, now out in version 3.0
for windows, which is capable of doing a lot more than I ask of it.
Also the support group is fantastic, they have a mailing list digest and
I've learned more reading that than I have with the very good manual.
The method of adding people is excellent, and the reports that come out
amaze me -- after all these years of laboriously typing them out myself.
One really good feature is that it expects you to cite sources from the
beginning, which for beginners is the best of habits.
Regards,
Mary
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X-Message: #27
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 08:09:20 +0300
From: mary stewart kyritsis <mkyr...@hol.gr>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <340CF0...@hol.gr>
Subject: Mailing lists
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Be happy to. There are two versions, L and D; L is where you get all
the individual emails separately, D is the Digest form which combines
all of them at a given cut-off, I think by how big the file has become.
Genealogy Ireland is : GENIRE-D...@rootsweb.com for the digest,
GENIRE-L...@rootsweb.com for individual
emails.
Genealogy Britain is : GENBRIT-...@rootsweb.com for the digest,
GENBRIT-...@rootsweb.com for individual
emails.
Scotch-Irish is : Scotch-...@rootsweb.com
which mainly covers queries in the USA.
Put nothing at all in the subject, and the body of the email must
contain ONLY the word
subscribe
with no signature or anything else added. You will receive a reply with
the various protocols, which shows that you are subscribed. To take
yourself off the list it is just the same, only using the word
unsubscribe
I have enjoyed all of them.
Regards,
Mary
At 07:02 29.8.97 -0400, you wrote:
>
>Can you tell us how to subscribe to those mailing lists?
>
>Rolland Everitt
>--
>Rolland D. Everitt
>e-mail: R_Ev...@ids.net
>www: http://users.ids.net/~reveritt
>
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 70
Today's Topics:
#1 Re: Immigration Records ["paul.petersen" <paul.petersen@wor]
#2 genealogy software [barney.b...@moobasi.com (Barn]
#3 German translations [barney.b...@moobasi.com (Barn]
#4 MIERSWA surname research [Daniel Mierswa <htw2787@htw-dresde]
#5 FREE MOTOROLA PAGERS & SEIKO WATCH [in...@pagrs.com]
#6 KING FAMILY [littlew...@webtv.net (Gina)]
#7 Re: Family Origins Ver 6.0 - Anyon [phili...@aol.com (PhilipC938)]
#8 Chisholm in Montana [Tom Chisholm <chis...@lls.REMOVE_]
#9 Re: German [Laura vanBosje <la...@vais.net>]
#10 Re: Family Origins Ver 6.0 - Anyon [just...@aol.com (Just Geo1)]
#11 25,300 names and 3300 surnames ["James L. Edenfield" <e...@hom.net>]
#12 the name turpin any body know the [omn...@cascade.net]
#13 Re: MONTANA NEWSPAPERS [Dawn Crowley <sc...@usroots.com>]
#14 Deafness - inherited [Larry Noah <larm...@worldnet.att.]
#15 SPENCER Genealogy--Anyone have Sir [tsim...@icanect.net (Terry Simond]
#16 Record all those Birthdays & anniv [The Shadow <nob...@nowhere.com>]
#17 Re: MAC PAF 2.31 Temple Ready [Bill Gatchell <gatchell@intersatx.]
#18 bookpates(exlibris) [exli...@webtv.net (Lewis Jaffe)]
#19 Re: German translations ["Janice A. Frank" <jani...@ix.net]
#20 Re: Lavington ??? [Derek Lavington <derekl@globalnet.]
#21 Re: Deafness - inherited [us...@potsie.softnet.co.uk (marion)]
#22 Re : Lavington [Derek Lavington <derekl@globalnet.]
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X-Message: #1
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 11:15:34 -0300
From: "paul.petersen" <paul.p...@worldnet.att.net>
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Taken from: National Archives And Records Administration
General Information Leaflet Number 5. "Using Records in
the National Archives for Genealogical Research"
National Archives & Records Administration,
Washington, D.C. 20408 email:inq...@arch2.nara.gov
Passenger Lists
The National Archives has several incomplete series of
customs passenger lists and immigration passenger lists of
ships arriving from abroad at many Atlantic, Pacific, and
gulf coast ports. There are also arrival records for
immigration via Canada. Customs passenger lists begin in 1820
and extend to the late 19th century (1890s) for most ports.
The immigration passenger lists begin at that time, usually
when the customs lists leave off.
Passenger
Port Arrival Lists Indexes
Baltimore 1820-1948 1820-1952
Boston 1820-74, 1848-91,
1883-1943 1902-20
Galveston 1896-1948 1896-1951
New Orleans 1820-1945 1853-1952
New York 1820-1954 1820-46,
1897- 1948
Philadelphia 1800-1945 1800- 1948
San Francisco 1893-1953 1893-1934
Seattle 1890-1957
Arrivals via Canada 1895-1954 1895-1952
Certain minor ports 1820-73, 1890-1924
1893-1954
Supplementing the indexes listed above is a general index to
quarterly reports of arrivals at most ports except New York, 1820-74.
Passenger lists before 1820 are not in the National Archives except
for a small, incomplete collection for the port of Philadelphia.
They may be on file at the port of entry or in the state archives
where the port is located. Passenger and Immigration List Index:
A Guide to Published Arrival Records . , by P William Filby,
and A Bibliography of Ship Passenger Lists, 1583- 1825, by Harold
Lancour, are guides to published lists of early immigrants to
North America. Your local library may either have these publications
or be able to assist you in locating copies. A customs passenger
list normally contains the following information for each
passenger: name, age, sex, and occupation; the country of embarkation;
and the country of destination. For one who died in passage, the date
and circumstances of death are given. Immigration passenger lists
vary in informational content but usually show the place of birth and
last place of residence in addition to the information found in the
customs passenger lists. Some of the immigration passenger lists include
the name and address of a relative in the country from which the
passenger came. National Archives staff in Washington, DC, will
search the customs passenger lists if in addition to the names of
the passenger and the port of entry an inquirer can
9
supply the following information: the name of the vessel
and the month and year of its arrival or the name of
the port of embarkation and the exact date of arrival.
It will also search the immigration passenger lists up
to 1954 when the lists are held by the National
Archives if an inquirer can give the full names and
ages of the passenger and of accompanying passengers,
the port of entry, the vessel, and exact date of
arrival. The staff will also consult existing indexes
to the names on the customs and immigration passenger
lists provided an inquirer can supply the name of the
port of entry and month and year of arrival. Requests
for searches should be made on NATF Form 81, Order for
Copies of Ship Passenger Arrival Records. Microfilm
copies of available passenger lists earlier than 1955
can be used in the National Archives in Washington,
DC. Some microfilm copies of lists are also available
in the regional archives. Researchers should contact
the nearest regional archives for information about
microfilm available there. The Morton Allen Directory
of European Passenger Steamship Arrivals (New York,
1931) lists by year, steamship company, and exact date
the names of vessels arriving at the ports of New York,
1890- 1930, and Baltimore, Boston, and Philadelphia,
1904-26. This publication is available in some large
public and research libraries.
Passport Applications
The National Archives in Washington, DC, has passport
applications and related papers,1791 -1926, of U.S.
citizens who intended to travel abroad. The staff will
make limited searches for age and citizenship
information in these records that are at least 75 years
old. The name of the person who applied for a passport
and the place and approximate date of application
should be supplied. Requests for information from
passport records after 1926 should be addressed to the
Passport Office, Department of State, Washington, DC
20520.
Personnel Records
There are a few records in the National Archives in
Washington, DC, relating to civilian employees of the
federal government whose service ended before 1910.
These records may contain information about the date
and place of birth of an employee. The National
Archives staff will search for records about employees
if given the full name and address of the employing
agency and the approximate dates of employment. The
personnel records for most civilian employees whose
service terminated after 1909 are in Civilian Personnel
Records, 111 Winnebago Street, St. Louis, MO 63118.
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NATF Form 81 may be obtained by sending an email
request to;<inq...@arch2.nara.gov> be sure to include
your mailing address.
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This is more a post for soc.genealogy.methods, but since I've
seen several messages recommending how to get the ship and arrival
date from the naturalization documents, this is apropos.
It's true that the INS has a copy of all naturalization documents
from 1906 on and that they usually indicate ship and arrival date.
I wouldn't recommend this as a first resort to getting naturalization
documents though. If you have some idea when and where the person
was naturalized, it will be much faster to obtain the documents
through the court they used, or a regional NARA site. With fairly
precise information, you can get 5-10 day response from courts and NARA.
On the other hand, I've had a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request
in to INS for 2 months and I'm told it can take up to a year.
If you have no idea when or where someone was naturalized after 1906,
then there's not much choice except to send the FOIA request to INS.
The Immigration and Naturalization Service has a web site where you
can download form G-639 (FOIA request). The URL is
http://www.ins.usdoj.gov/forms/index.html
Click on the "I have read and understand..." button and you'll see
form G-639. You'll need Acrobat Reader, which is downloadable here too.
I've seen form G-641 recommended as the FOIA request form on this
ships list. I don't know that that form is wrong. I only know that on
the official INS site, they list G-639 as the FOIA form.
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By 1900, the overwhelming majority of immigrants from europe and
Scandinavia were entering through the port of New York.
1. If < name > became a naturalized citizen, and you have not already
done so, obtain a copy of his naturalization records from the
Immigration and Naturalization Service, 425 I Street N.W.,
Washington, DC 20536 (ask for form #G-641). After 1906, both the
Declaration of Intention and the Petition for Naturalization ask
for the date and place of birth, the date and port of emigration, the
name of the vessel, and the date and port of arrival.
2. If you suspect that the <surname> family entered New York at any time
between June 1897 and June 1902, check the alphabetical index to
passenger lists of vessels arriving at the port of New York, 16 June
1897-30 June 1902, National Archives Microfilm Publication T519 (115
rolls). You can borrow copies of these rolls through AGLL, any LDS
(Mormon) Family History Center, or Interlibrary Loan. To determine
which microfilm rolls to borrow, go to the National Archives and
Records Administration (NARA) website at
http://www.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/immigrant/rg85nyk1.html
3. If you suspect that the <surname> family entered New York after 30 June
1902, check the soundex index to passenger lists of vessels arriving
at the port of New York, 1 July 1902-31 December 1943, National
Archives Microfilm Publication T621 (755 rolls). You can borrow
copies of any of these microfilms through the sources listed at #2
above. To determine the appropriate microfilm roll(s) to borrow,
1) go to the Soundex Machine maintained by NARA at
http://www.nara.gov/genealogy/soundex/soundex.html, and
determine the soundex code for the <surname>.
2) go to the list of rolls of the soundex index for 1902-1943 on
the NARA website at
http://www.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/immigrant/rg85nyk2.html
Determine the microfilm roll(s) that contain(s) the index
listings for the soundex code for <surname>.
4. Both the alphabetical and the soundex index give for each passenger
the number of the volume into which the passenger manifest for the
vessel on which the passenger arrived, and the page number on which
the passenger's name appears. The bound passenger manifests of
vessels arriving at New York, 1897-1957, have been microfilmed as
National Archives Microfilm Publication T715 (8,892 rolls), and you
can borrow copies of any of these rolls through any of the sources
listed at #2 above. To determine the microfilm roll that contains a
copy of the bound volume in which the <surname> family appears, go to the
NARA website at
http://www.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/immigrant/rg85nyk4.html
If you assume, at least initially, that your ancestor entered through the port of
Philadelphia.
1. Go to the National Archives and Records Administration soundex
machine, at http://www.nara.gov/genealogy/soundex/soundex.html and
determine the soundex code for the surname of the ancestor you are
researching.
2. Take the resulting soundex code and check it against the list of
microfilm rolls for the soundex index to passenger lists of vessels
arriving at the port of Philadelphia, 1883-1948, National Archives
Microfilm Publication T526, at
http://www.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/immigrant/rg85phl1.html
3. Borrow the appropriate microfilm roll through AGLL, any LDS (Mormon)
Family History Center, or Interlibrary Loan.
4. The soundex index will give the name of the vessel and the date
of arrival. The passenger manifests themselves are microfilmed as
National Archives Microfilm Publication T840, passenger lists of
vessels arriving at the port of Philadelphia, 1883-1945. If you
identify your ancestor in the soundex index, you can borrow--through
AGLL, any LDS Family History Center, or Interlibrary Loan--the
microfilm roll that contains a copy of the passenger manifest for
this voyage. To determine the appropriate microfilm roll to
borrow, go to
http://www.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/immigrant/rg85phl3.html
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>Second question: Could someone tell me the LDS film numbers for ships coming
>from Bremen between 1855 and 1856, and the same for LDS film numbers for
>ships coming from Hamburg between 1855 and 1856? My second set of great
>grandparents came in one of those two years, but that's all I have. I am
>willing to look thru all the passenger lists from both Bremen and Hamburg for
>those 2 years if I can get the film numbers since I can't find them in
>Germans to America.
You can find a 15 year index for Hamburg passenger list for years 1856 to
1871 in the LDS film series 0884668 to0884677.
Addition information can be found on fiche # 6000034.
The Hamburger passenger list is made up of two sections:
Direct List with index & Indirect List with index.
The Hamburg Passenger list and indexes are on 486 rolls of microfilm at th
FHL. For film #, search the Locality section of the Family History Library
Catalog under GERMANY,HAMBURG, HAMBURG - EMIGRATION AND IMMIGRATION. If you
are using the compact disc version of the catalog (Family Search), select
the computer number search and enter 11064.
You can find out more about Hamburg Passenger list by getting a copy of
"The Resource Guide for the Hamburg Passenger List,1850-1934 @ your local
LDS library.
There is also a detailed account of the Hamburg passenger lists, including
a catalogue with Family History Library microfilm numbers, by Jim Eggert
and myself, at http://www.genealogy.com/gene/www/emig/ham_pass.html
Jon Aspinwall; JON...@worldnet.att.net
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X-Message: #2
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 13:42:00 GMT
From: barney.b...@moobasi.com (Barney Barnhardt)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <97090911...@moobasi.com>
Subject: genealogy software
C > I liked Brothers Keeper for the few days I tried it but settled
C > on Family Tree Maker which cost $30 from WalMart.
C
You get what you pay for!!
Brother's Keeper can't be beat if you take everything into considerationn....
Price, ease of use, support by the author and being able to send messages
directly to him and have them answered promptly!!
Barney...
... barney.b...@appletons.com / barney.b...@moobasi.com
___ Mountain Reader - 1.1
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X-Message: #3
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 13:45:00 GMT
From: barney.b...@moobasi.com (Barney Barnhardt)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <97090911...@moobasi.com>
Subject: German translations
T > Believe I have seen a URL listed before where one can get help with
T > translating German to English. Could someone who has that address
Another possibility... There are programs that are available that do a
fairly good job of translation from German to English and vice/versa.
They're not terribly expensive and are there any time you have something to
translate...
Barney...
... barney.b...@appletons.com / barney.b...@moobasi.com
___ Mountain Reader - 1.1
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X-Message: #4
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 17:43:00 +0200
From: Daniel Mierswa <htw...@htw-dresden.de>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34156E...@htw-dresden.de>
Subject: MIERSWA surname research
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Who can help me?
I am looking for Informations on the MIERSWA surname.
Please send your E-mail to:
htw...@htw-dresden.de
Thanks! Daniel
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X-Message: #6
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 10:57:44 -0500
From: littlew...@webtv.net (Gina)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v3rlo$ebp$1...@newsd-107.bryant.webtv.net>
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I am searching for my ggrandparents, John Tidwell KING and Laura SPARKS
KING.
John was b. 1864 in Tenn., to Tidwell KING and Katherine TURNER. Laura
was b. 1870 in Ar. to John SPARKS and Mary TIMS. I believe that they
were married in Ar., because this is where their children were born.
John and Laura moved to McAlester,Ok., possibly in 1900. Does anyone
have any info on how I can find out when they lived there? Ok. didn't
become a state until 1907. My grandmother may have been born here, but
I'm not sure. She was born on 30 Nov., 1900.
John and Laura were living in Mt. Vernon, Tx. by the year 1912.
I would appreciate any information. Thanks in advance.
Gina Clingan
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X-Message: #7
Date: 9 Sep 1997 16:58:02 GMT
From: phili...@aol.com (PhilipC938)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909165...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Family Origins Ver 6.0 - Anyone used it yet?
>
>You have to order the specific os, it is in 16 bit and 32 bit.
>
>
It appears that even though you have to be specific
when you place your order, both versions (ie: 16 bit
and 32 bit) come on the same CD.
I ordered the Windows 3.1 16 bit version and the CD
I received has both Windows 3.1 (16 bit) and Windows
95 (32 bit) versions on it.
Phil
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X-Message: #8
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 16:59:45 GMT
From: Tom Chisholm <chis...@lls.REMOVE_FOR_EMAIL.leica.co.uk>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <EG937L.8r...@leica.co.uk>
Subject: Chisholm in Montana
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I am looking for any information about William Chisholm who emigrated
from Migdale, near Bonar Bridge in Scotland, to Butte, Montana. I guess
this would be in the early part of this century.
His eldest brother, Thomas, was my grandfather and they corresponded
until the 1940's.
TIA for any information about William or any family.
--
Tom Chisholm
Leica Lithography Systems Ltd., Cambridge, UK +44-1223-411123
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X-Message: #9
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 13:39:47 -0400
From: Laura vanBosje <la...@vais.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.97090...@sun.vais.net>
Subject: Re: German
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On Sat, 6 Sep 1997, Merritt Mullen wrote:
>
> DBrodi6140 wrote:
> > Please help me understand what this means?
> > Ship record from German, Swiss and others immigrants 1753.
> > Oct. 1, 1753. Snow Good Hope, John Trump, Capt. from Hamburg, last from COWES.
> >
> > What is or should I say where is COWES?
>
> Cowes is a seaport on the north coast of the Isle of Wight (just south
> of the English port of Southampton).
>
"Last from Cowes" usually indicates that the ship stopped there to take on
supplies, and possibly more cargo, for the voyage. Sort of a "last gas
before Thruway" kind of place.
Laura vanBosje
researching ALSDORF, BOBBITT, HASH, HAGA, HACKLER, HALSEY, DUBOIS, and
many old Ulster county families.
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X-Message: #10
Date: 9 Sep 1997 17:49:29 GMT
From: just...@aol.com (Just Geo1)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909174...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Family Origins Ver 6.0 - Anyone used it yet?
In article <19970909003...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
tch...@aol.com (TCH6535) writes:
>I have been sent an upgrade notice.
>
>Is the CD-ROM disk compatible with Windows 3.1 and Windows NT?
>
Terry,
There are both 16 bit and 32 bit versions of FOW 6 on the CD-ROM,
and I will know soon if its compatible with Win NT. I run NT 4.0 server. :)
Jolly Time BBS
Just for the Halibut!
(206) 244-8108
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X-Message: #11
Date: 9 Sep 97 17:56:54 GMT
From: "James L. Edenfield" <e...@hom.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbd49$52f6cea0$bb7ed8cc@default>
Subject: 25,300 names and 3300 surnames
There are over 25,300 names and over 3300 surnames at
http://www.hom.net/~egs
Absolutely FREE ACCESS!!
Completely searchable database!!!
Take a LOOK!!
Thanks
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X-Message: #12
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 10:45:16 +0000
From: omn...@cascade.net
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341528BB...@cascade.net>
Subject: the name turpin any body know the nationlity
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trying to find out the nationlity of the name turpin before england
omn...@cascade.net
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X-Message: #13
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 11:34:45 -0700
From: Dawn Crowley <sc...@usroots.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341596...@usroots.com>
Subject: Re: MONTANA NEWSPAPERS
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dwa...@compmore.net wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me if there is a newspaper in Great Falls and / or
> Helena, Montana. If so what their names are.
>
> dwa...@compmore.net
Ask your local reference librarian; current newspaper guides are
published with listings by locality. If you're looking for an old
newspaper, then ask to see a historical newspaper guide.
Then request the appropriate newspaper on interlibrary loan. Sometimes
a small fee is involved.
Dawn Crowley
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X-Message: #14
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 13:26:59 -0500
From: Larry Noah <larm...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v44g4$h...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Deafness - inherited
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There is an inherited deafness in my wife's family. All of the
children who are born deaf are blond haired and blue eyed. From what we
have found so far the first child of a deaf person (with this trait) wil
be born hearing, the second child will be born deaf. We have traced
this back to a George WALKER who married a Rebecca MOODY abt 1790. Does
anyone have this trait in there family lines or know anything about it?
Thanks.
--
Larry Noah - lrn...@bigfoot.com
See my Ancestors at - http://www.trailerpark.com/tango/lrnoah
Gedcoms are at - http://members.tripod.com/~lrnoah
ALBRIGHT, ALEXANDER, ASKINS, BELK, CLAPP, COURTNEY, CROSSWELL,
FOUST, KELLER, MIXON, MOSER, NEASE, NOAH, PILKINGTON, SHARP,
WATSON, WOODHAM, WYATT & more, mainly in NC and SC
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X-Message: #15
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 19:36:33 GMT
From: tsim...@icanect.net (Terry Simonds)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v4897$qcv$1...@news.icanect.net>
Subject: SPENCER Genealogy--Anyone have Sir Robert??
I have a Sir Robert SPENCER m. Eleanore BEAUFORD with daughter
Margaret b. 1472 m. 1490 to Thomas CAREY, Esq. The notation at Sir
Robert reads "...Lord Spencer."
Does anyone know if this an ancestor of Princess Diana?
TIA--
Terry Simonds in Ft. Lauderdale
Researching SIMONDS/CAREY/DINSMORE/MANN
***Use this for reply: fsimonds@ instead of tsimonds@
Address in header is SPAM filter
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X-Message: #16
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 12:41:12 GMT
From: The Shadow <nob...@nowhere.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <997cd$c29c.2c7@NEWS>
Subject: Record all those Birthdays & anniversaries
I found the perfect gift for my mother. Check out this
web site. www.ieway.com/business/gifts I bought one
for my mother & she likes it so well I"m ordering more
for christmas presents for my 2 sisters my 2 grandmothers
& close friends. It makes an excellent & inexpensive gift
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X-Message: #17
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 13:26:40 -0500
From: Bill Gatchell <gatc...@intersatx.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341594...@intersatx.net>
Subject: Re: MAC PAF 2.31 Temple Ready
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Bill Perry wrote:
>
> I am trying to export a Gedcom file for temple ready. It has to be on a
> Dos disk some how. I have not found any utility or instructions on how
> to make the disk dos formated so that I can put this through temple
> ready at the FHC.
>
> Please help.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bill
Bill,
Call Salt Lake directly at 1 800 346 6044, they're very helpful and
should be able to talk you thru it over the phone.
Bill Gatchell
San Antonio, Tx
gatc...@intersatx.net
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X-Message: #18
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 15:05:32 -0400
From: exli...@webtv.net (Lewis Jaffe)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v46lt$d6h$1...@newsd-108.bryant.webtv.net>
Subject: bookpates(exlibris)
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collector wishes to purchase any pre-1850 bookplates(exlibris)
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X-Message: #19
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 16:51:56 -0700
From: "Janice A. Frank" <jani...@ix.netcom.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3415E1...@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: German translations
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Barney Barnhardt wrote:
>
> T > Believe I have seen a URL listed before where one can get help with
> T > translating German to English. Could someone who has that address
>
I think what you are looking for is at www.genealogy.com - that's the
top level for German genealogy and they have volunteer translators. I
have not tried them myself.
--
jan <jani...@ix.netcom.com>
Interested in names: FRANK, KELLER, PENROSE, SCHULTZ
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X-Message: #20
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 21:52:39 +0100
From: Derek Lavington <der...@globalnet.co.uk>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3415B7...@globalnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Lavington ???
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Does anyone have any information on the background or origin of the name
'Lavington' ?
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X-Message: #21
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 97 21:08:28 GMT
From: us...@potsie.softnet.co.uk (marion)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <N.090997....@n02i181.c2r5.pol.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Deafness - inherited
On 09/09/97 19:26, in message <5v44g4$h...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, Larry
Noah <larm...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> There is an inherited deafness in my wife's family. All of the
> children who are born deaf are blond haired and blue eyed. From what we
> have found so far the first child of a deaf person (with this trait) wil
> be born hearing, the second child will be born deaf. We have traced
> this back to a George WALKER who married a Rebecca MOODY abt 1790. Does
> anyone have this trait in there family lines or know anything about it?
> Thanks.
> --
> Larry Noah - lrn...@bigfoot.com
> See my Ancestors at - http://www.trailerpark.com/tango/lrnoah
> Gedcoms are at - http://members.tripod.com/~lrnoah
> ALBRIGHT, ALEXANDER, ASKINS, BELK, CLAPP, COURTNEY, CROSSWELL,
> FOUST, KELLER, MIXON, MOSER, NEASE, NOAH, PILKINGTON, SHARP,
> WATSON, WOODHAM, WYATT & more, mainly in NC and SC
>
OMIM, the database of human genes and genetic disorders, lists two inherited
disorders which cause deafness and partial albinism (blond hair, blue eyes),
these are
Waardenburg Syndrome - webpage at
(http://www3.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Omim/dispmim?193500) and
Albinism-Deafness of Tietz - webpage at
(http://www3.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Omim/dispmim?103500).
Both these disorders are inherited in an autosomal dominant manner. This means
that each child of an affected parent has a 50:50 chance of inheriting the
disorder. The chances are the same for each child.
Hope this helps a little
Marion in Wiltshire, UK
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X-Message: #22
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 21:54:47 +0100
From: Derek Lavington <der...@globalnet.co.uk>
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Subject: Re : Lavington
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Does anyone have any information on the background or origin of the
surname 'Lavington' ?
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 71
Today's Topics:
#1 Re: Lavington Surname [Derek Lavington <derekl@globaln=
=3D
et.]
#2 Help with a possible French name p [mrob...@iglou.com (Ob V Us)]
#3 Re: Royal Genealogy [Stuart Cresswell <stuart.cressw=
=3D
ell]
#4 Re: Genealogy Odds [Stuart Cresswell <stuart.cressw=
=3D
ell]
#5 Re: Princess Diana [kda...@aol.com (KDAD40)]
#6 Family Mesle ["Vos nom et pr=3DE9nom" <nono11=
@i=3D
nfoni]
#7 SOLDANI LAPEYRE BARRAL MERCADIER F [Marc Hol <mar...@hol.fr>]
#8 Workshop in Trenton, MO [Lee Everton <leverton@everton.c=
=3D
om>]
#9 ANNOUNCE NEW IRELAND CHAT SESSION [H...@REMOVETHIScarebear.demon.co=
=3D
.uk]
#10 Re: New England Research Advice [yebiche <yeb...@metro2000.net=
=3D
>]
#11 Re: Nyack New York [jnort...@aol.com (JNorton720=
=3D
)]
#12 German translations [Jerry & Deb Plasek <Jerryp@nav=
=3D
ixno]
#13 Re: Deafness - inherited [wil...@aol.com (Wilona1)]
#14 AGNELLO, OLLISO, SASO from Italy [gins...@aol.com (Gins geno)]
#15 1500 NEW HOMEPAGES - (for genealog [Webmaster <leg...@polaris.net>=
=3D
]
#16 Re: MONTANA NEWSPAPERS [cha...@aol.com (Chachee)]
#17 Re: CRAMER [cha...@aol.com (Chachee)]
#18 Re: DEATH OF PRINCESS DIANA [mblo...@world.std.com (Marie =
=3D
D Bl]
#19 Family Tree Maker Upgrade [sel...@aol.com (Selna V)]
#20 Re: Broderbund and Rootsweb Is thi ["Donna Suarez" <dsu...@cts.co=
=3D
m>]
#21 EVANS EVENTS - genealogy newslette [sel...@aol.com (Selna V)]
#22 Getting access to restricted recor [debb...@juno.com (Debbe Nye)]
#23 Re: Getting access to restricted r [Peter Schultz <schultzp@erols.=
=3D
com>]
#24 Re: search a good genealogist prog [d...@keyway.net (Dwayne )]
#25 Surnames at Home Page [Charles Duncan <ci...@mail.air=
=3D
mail]
#26 Re: German [bs...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Ern=
=3D
est ]
#27 Re: the name turpin any body know [Mike Lafleur <mlaf...@vnet.ne=
=3D
t>]
#28 surnames-HENLEY,BOKMAN,ARBOGHAST(A [jenn...@aol.com (Jenn5472)]
#29 Chicago Masonic cemetery [R D TUCKER <matu...@ix.netcom=
=3D
.com]
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X-Message: #1
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 21:51:01 +0100
From: Derek Lavington <der...@globalnet.co.uk>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3415B6...@globalnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Lavington Surname
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Does anyone have any information on the background or origin of the
'Lavington' surname
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X-Message: #2
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 20:16:15 GMT
From: mrob...@iglou.com (Ob V Us)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3415ae1b...@news.iglou.com>
Subject: Help with a possible French name please
MIME-Version: 1.0
I am studying the name DeZarn. I am told that it comes France. It
may have something to do with a river called the Zarn. Can anyone
help me???
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X-Message: #3
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 20:52:32 +0100
From: Stuart Cresswell <stuart.c...@zetnet.co.uk>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <199709092...@zetnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Royal Genealogy
MIME-Version: 1.0
In message <msg146029.thr-...@online.pol.dk>
Peter_Kri...@online.pol.dk (Peter Kristiansen1) writes:=20
> England have the possibility of female succession, there have been
> three queens before: Elizabeth I, Anne and Victoria
Actually there were two Marys: Mary who succeeded Edward VI (or if=20
you want another "Queen" Lady Jane Gery) and Mary II wife of William=20
III (of Orange) was Queen in her own right as daughter of James II,=20
but their joint succession was "by invitation" (William was son of=20
Mary - James IIs sister)
Stuart
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X-Message: #4
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 20:54:42 +0100
From: Stuart Cresswell <stuart.c...@zetnet.co.uk>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <199709092...@zetnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Genealogy Odds
MIME-Version: 1.0
In message <01bcbc97$91c19dc0$681c13cf@dick>
"Richard Marean Coveney" <L...@Capecod.net> writes:=20
> A well known genealogical precept is; "On average, we are all third
> cousins". This was derived in England by squaring the number of ancesto=
rs
> each generation back, until the number of ancestors equaled the then
> population. Finding the number of duplicated ancestors necessary to com=
e
> close to the population is said to reduce to the third cousin average.
I need time to absord that piece of "statistics" <g>
Stuart
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X-Message: #5
Date: 9 Sep 1997 21:16:37 GMT
From: kda...@aol.com (KDAD40)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909211...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Princess Diana
MIME-Version: 1.0
Peter Schultz says:
>I remember reading that Princess Diana was also related to=20
>actor Humphrey Bogart.
>
>
The eminent genealogist Gary Boyd Roberts wrote "The New England Ancestry
of HRH The Princess of Wales" in the New England Historical & Genealogica=
l
Register 136:85-102 and 136:307-330 (1982), where he shows that Princess
Diana, through the Strongs, was related in a distant cousinly way not on=
ly
to Humphrey Bogart but to these folks--Presidents John & John Quincy Adam=
s;
the Rockfellers (through the Aldrich family); both Teddy Roosevelt and FD=
R;
Horatio Alger, Susan B. Anthony, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, L. Frank Baum
(wrote the Wizard of Oz), Ben Bradlee, Admiral Byrd, Admiral Dewey, Mrs.
Enrico Caruso, Mrs. Rudolph Valentino, J.P. Morgan, Grover Cleveland,
pianist and bandleader Eddie Duchin, John Foster Dulles, Amelia Earhart,
Marshall Field, Millard Fillmore, Harvey Firestone, F.Scott Fitzgerald,
Erle Stanley Gardner (wrote Perry Mason mysteries), Nathan Hale, actresse=
s
Dorothy and Lillian Gish, Julie Harris, Dina Merrill, Shirley Temple, Lee
Remick and Ethel Barrymore (and of course, John, Lionel and Drew), Oliver
Wendell Holmes Jr. & Sr., Donald Lines Jacobus, Henry Cabot Lodge, Glori=
a
Vanderbilt, General George B. McClellan, General George Gordon Meade and
General George S. Patton, Jr., Anthony Perkins, Orson Welles, Senator
Robert A. Taft, historians Samuel Eliot Morison and Arthur M. Schlesinger=
,
Jr., General Billy Mitchell, composer Charles Ives, Supreme Court Justice=
s
Byron White and John Marshall Harlan II, George Gallup (Poll), Lowell
Thomas, Dr. Spock, Bess Truman, Adlai Stevenson, H.L. Hunt, Harriet Beech=
er
Stowe, Robert Penn Warren, the Wright Brothers, Noah Webster, and no less
than three of Brigham Young's wives. And there are many more on that lis=
t!
As you can figure, this goes on for pages and pages and pages and pages
and pages and pages--
Imagine having a family reunion....
Reg Pitts
KDA...@aol.com
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X-Message: #6
Date: 9 Sep 1997 21:16:00 GMT
From: "Vos nom et pr=E9nom" <non...@infonie.fr>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbd65$d74681c0$0c0065c3@a-mesle-et-fami>
Subject: Family Mesle
MIME-Version: 1.0
I'm looking after all information about my family name MESLE
Thank you
non...@infonie.fr
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X-Message: #7
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 23:36:17 +0200
From: Marc Hol <mar...@hol.fr>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3415C151...@hol.fr>
Subject: SOLDANI LAPEYRE BARRAL MERCADIER Family
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Bonjour de Marseille
Je suis Marc de je fais des recherches genealoguique sur ma famille.
Je recherche des informations sur ces noms.
De mon cote je suis remonte dans les regions suivantes :
- SOLDANI Marseille (origine Italie)
- LAPEYRE Haute Alpes
- BARRAL Alpes de haute provence
- MERCADIER Haute Garonne
Merci D'avance
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X-Message: #8
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 15:50:48 -0600
From: Lee Everton <leve...@everton.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3415C4B8...@everton.com>
Subject: Workshop in Trenton, MO
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Subject: Workshop in Trenton, MO
The Grundy County Genealogical Society is proud to sponsor the
"Discovering Your Heritage" genealogy workshop on Wednesday, September
17, 1997
in Trenton, Missouri. This popular workshop is presented by the staff
of "Everton's Genealogical Helper."
This workshop will be held in the First Baptist Church located at 2421
Oklahoma Ave.
The cost is $ (Write) and includes a years subscription to "Everton's
Genealogical Helper." There will be computer databases for researching,
books to browse, and questions can be answered. This is truly a
"hands-on" genealogical workshop.
For more information, please contact:
Ernest Rousselot
1323 Cedar St.
Trenton, MO 64683
--
"Everton's Genealogical Helper" serving genealogists for over 50 years
with the best articles, reviews and contacts in genealogy. Check out
the on-line resources at http://www.everton.com/
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X-Message: #9
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 22:53:19 +0100
From: H...@REMOVETHIScarebear.demon.co.uk (HLA)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <HLA-090997...@carebear.demon.co.uk>
Subject: ANNOUNCE NEW IRELAND CHAT SESSION
MIME-Version: 1.0
BRAND NEW announcing #Ireland-gen
STARTING Monday 15th September 1997 at 20:00 GMT
Ireland-genealogy. Meeting every Monday from 20:00 GMT on channel
#Ireland-gen. Anyone researching in the Ireland is welcome to attend.
This meeting is intended as a get together for people researching
Irish ancestors, both from in Ireland and beyond.
The idea has originated from the #IIGS-UKgen meetings, but Ireland is so
special that we wanted it to have its own session !!
The intention is to have more regular communication between people..
e.g. If you are having a discussion on Irish newsgroups then bring
it with you and have an interactive chat about it. Bring your
surnames and see if anyone else is researching in your area. Bring
your books with you and see if you can help others.
#ireland-gen is the newest member of the IIGS IRC service, check out
the web site <http://www.iigs.org/irc/index.htm> for more
themed chat sessions.
Contact for #ireland-gen: chat...@carebear.demon.co.uk - Lisa OR
we...@mail.fwi.com - Judy
-------
To access this service, direct your IRC client to irc.IIGS.org, or
irc.rootsweb.com, port 6667 or 7000.
Then join #ireland-gen
If you are new to IRC check out the IIGS IRC pages are at=20
<http://www.iigs.org/irc/index.htm> .
These will direct you to pages for IRC software and help !!
Rootsweb hosts IRC at the International Internet Genealogical Society
(IIGS). Visit our web site at < http://www.iigs.org/ > .
The IIGS IRC service is the IIGS's first tool for genealogists,
hosted by Rootsweb.
For conversions to your time zone, a useful Web site is
< http://www.admin.uow.edu.au/iigs/time_chart.html >
Set up exclusively for genealogy, the IIGS IRC is open 24 hours per
day so genealogists around the world can meet. Please feel free to
drop in at any time.
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X-Message: #10
Date: 9 Sep 1997 22:04:08 GMT
From: yebiche <yeb...@metro2000.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v4h4o$7...@Tokyo.Metro2000.Net>
Subject: Re: New England Research Advice
MIME-Version: 1.0
> : >I will be on a business trip in New England and I will have an entir=
e
> : >Saturday for doing research. Can anyone recommend the best place to
> : >spend my day?
>=20
Where in New England will you be and what area of NE is your research
based?
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X-Message: #11
Date: 9 Sep 1997 22:08:25 GMT
From: jnort...@aol.com (JNorton720)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909220...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Nyack New York
MIME-Version: 1.0
>Any on no of a way to access records from Nyack New york Late 1800's ear=
ly
>1900"s.
>Thank you.
>
>
Nyack is in Rockland County. It was once part of Orange but I believe it
was sepatated at that time from Orange. The county seat is New City, NY.
There is a Rockland County Historical Society. Use search engine -- new
yorik state genealogy.
Do not know if you can access birth or death records at county or state
level. I do know for present day birth records in Rockland County I have
gone to village clerk.
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X-Message: #12
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 05:01:01 -0700
From: Jerry & Deb Plasek <Jer...@navixnospam.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34153A...@navixnospam.net>
Subject: German translations
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Below is a URL for a online german translator
http://math-www.uni-paderborn.de/HTML/Dictionaries.html
Jerry Plasek
=20
Researching PLASEK, ROLENC, HLADKY, FUCIK
Remove nospam from email Address to reply
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X-Message: #13
Date: 9 Sep 1997 23:03:58 GMT
From: wil...@aol.com (Wilona1)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909230...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Deafness - inherited
MIME-Version: 1.0
Since this is related to deafness, I copied/reposted it to the deaf
newsgroup, bit.listserv.deaf-l
In article <5v44g4$h...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, Larry Noah
<larm...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>
>There is an inherited deafness in my wife's family. All of the
>children who are born deaf are blond haired and blue eyed. From what we
>have found so far the first child of a deaf person (with this trait) wil
>be born hearing, the second child will be born deaf. We have traced
>this back to a George WALKER who married a Rebecca MOODY abt 1790. Does
>anyone have this trait in there family lines or know anything about it?
>Thanks.
>--=20
>Larry Noah - lrn...@bigfoot.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Martha E. Knowles --- Wil...@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/wilona1/index.html UPDATED 8/20/97
NEW CENSUS INDEX ON FAMILY TREE PAGES!
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X-Message: #14
Date: 9 Sep 1997 23:27:46 GMT
From: gins...@aol.com (Gins geno)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970909232...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: AGNELLO, OLLISO, SASO from Italy
MIME-Version: 1.0
Are you researching any of these names from Italy. They were born in
Vonpieta & Trabi, Italy. I would like to hear from you. Gin in Topeka, K=
s
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X-Message: #15
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 19:58:15 -0700
From: Webmaster <leg...@polaris.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34160C...@polaris.net>
Subject: 1500 NEW HOMEPAGES - (for genealogists)
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Find the latest family listings at the Self-Listing Service of the
Genealogy Gateway:
http://www.polaris.net/~legend/listings/listings.html
--=20
Genealogy Gateway(TM) To The Web =20
http://www.polaris.net/~legend/bookmark.htm
"Where substance takes precedence over style"
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X-Message: #16
Date: 10 Sep 1997 00:29:08 GMT
From: cha...@aol.com (Chachee)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970910002...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: MONTANA NEWSPAPERS
MIME-Version: 1.0
The Helena paper is the Independent Record.
The Great Falls paper is the Tribune.
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X-Message: #17
Date: 10 Sep 1997 00:31:53 GMT
From: cha...@aol.com (Chachee)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970910003...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: CRAMER
MIME-Version: 1.0
>Any information on the genealogy of the Cramer surname?
>
All I know is that the Cramers that I know were Kramers and changed the K
to a C when they came to America running from Hitler. They are of Jewish
descent & religion.
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X-Message: #18
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 23:35:35 GMT
From: mblo...@world.std.com (Marie D Blocher)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <EG9LJ...@world.std.com>
Subject: Re: DEATH OF PRINCESS DIANA
MIME-Version: 1.0
In article <cT$CjJANa...@caketown.demon.co.uk>,
David <da...@caketown.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <19970907211...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, GadgtQween
><gadgt...@aol.com> writes
>>
>>To me the Queen's bow, as Diana passed, said you were right and we were
>>wrong, a change in our methods must take place.
>
>However, it seems that not all the lessons have been learned ! It has
>since been announced that Buckingham Palace offered, prior to the
>funeral (I think) to restore Di's title, an offer which, IMHO, the
>Spencer family quite rightly refused. Some may see this as a genuine
>offer; I see it as a misguided (some would say insensitive or cynical)
>attempt to salvage a little goodwill from a situation which has been
>handled quite appallingly by the Royal Family. Whoever their advisers
>are, they should be got rid of immediately.
>--=20
>David
The offer was made by the Queen's secretary, on the train from London to
the Spencer family home, after the service at Westminster Abbey but befor=
e
the interment. I also agree with the Earl's refusal. The mother of the
future King should never have had the title removed, divorce or no. It
was humiliating for Diana to know that if Charles married his paramour,
then Diana would have had to bow to her, etc. The only person who it woul=
d
be acceptable to restore Diana's title would be William when he accedes t=
o
the throne. Then it would be a fitting tribute, not a peace offering.
Marie
--=20
Marie Dunn Blocher - mblo...@world.std.com - researching =
=20
BOYD BREWER BYNUM DUNN EDWARDS HOBBS LEWIS PENTECOST PULLEN WARD WEDGEWO=
RTH =20
~
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X-Message: #19
Date: 10 Sep 1997 00:48:36 GMT
From: sel...@aol.com (Selna V)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970910004...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Family Tree Maker Upgrade
MIME-Version: 1.0
Has anyone bought the new Family Tree Maker upgrade? What do you think o=
f
it? I was thinking of buying it and want to make sure it is worth the
price before I buy it.
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X-Message: #20
Date: 10 Sep 1997 00:48:46 GMT
From: "Donna Suarez" <dsu...@cts.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbd82$de35d7c0$5692...@dsuarez.cts.com>
Subject: Re: Broderbund and Rootsweb Is this true
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It certainly is true. However, the Broderbund response is a no response.=
=20
The ultimate irrogance.
------------------------------------------=20
Donna Suarez
E-mail: dsu...@cts.com
Webpage: http://www.users.cts.com/sd/d/dsuarez
Kitt...@aol.com wrote in article
<97090909000...@emout02.mail.aol.com>...
---------------------
Forwarded message:
From: dsu...@cts.com (Donna Suarez)
To: GENC...@rootsweb.com
Date: 97-09-08 23:46:24 EDT
The following e-mail speaks for itself. Apparently, Broderbund plans
on using the Internet as a source for their CD? As most of you know,
Dr.Brian Leverich is the 'owner' of Rootweb along with Karen Isaacson.
Broderbund to remove links from its database if they've=20
downloaded inappropriate material.
o There's no regard for copyrighted material.
o There's no guarantee that the downloaded pages aren't going
to show up on CD-666 next month.
o The text fragments which Broderbund shows with the link, if
doubled or tripled in length, would often cause the user to =20
not need to visit the linked page at all. If Broderbund
ever does that (and it's a trivial software switch), those
guys will have effectively stolen every single genealogist's Web
pages.
What particularly annoys RootsWeb is that Broderbund's indexing
effort really does have value and would probably be a good idea if
they just behaved responsibly. Unfortunately, when we offered to
open RootsWeb to them if they would just avoid damaging our servers
and if they would carefully respect the rights of the 1,700
independent Websites at RootsWeb, what we got back was dead
air.
*sigh* -B
--
Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator,
soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L
RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative
http://www.rootsweb.com/
P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798
leve...@rootsweb.com
--
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X-Message: #21
Date: 10 Sep 1997 01:06:59 GMT
From: sel...@aol.com (Selna V)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970910010...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: EVANS EVENTS - genealogy newsletter
MIME-Version: 1.0
The September issue of Evans Events, a quarterly newsletter dedicated to
the genealogy of the various Evans families has been printed and mailed t=
o
subscribers. To get your copy, please contact me for subscription inform=
ation.
Shelina Virjee
sel...@aol.com
P.S. The premier issue is available free on the web!
web.http://members.aol.com/SelnaV/evans.html
I look forward to having you join the family!
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X-Message: #22
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 01:25:34 GMT
From: debb...@juno.com (Debbe Nye)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v4t6r$1...@camel15.mindspring.com>
Subject: Getting access to restricted records?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Hi everyone,
In response to my request for a 1911 death certificate of a possible
ancestor, I received a letter saying the record is restricted to
"proper judicial order, upon the request of the parent, attorney,
guardian or conservator."
This confused me, so I called the town clerk to ask why this would be
still in effect for a 86 year-old death record when any parents,
guardians, etc. would have been dead years ago. I was told that only
way I could get a copy would be wait until 2011.
Since I'm sure others have run across this in your research, any
suggestions? Also, why might a death record be restricted?=20
Thanks!
debbe
debbe
=20
debb...@juno.com
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X-Message: #23
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 21:52:40 -0400
From: Peter Schultz <schu...@erols.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3415FD...@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Getting access to restricted records?
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii
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I believe this is a public record. A certain unseemly proprietary=20
arrogance arises from time to time among public servants who don't=20
understand who they're working for. If you are in the U.S., I suggest=20
you phone some state legislators.
Debbe Nye wrote:
>=20
> Hi everyone,
>=20
> In response to my request for a 1911 death certificate of a possible
> ancestor, I received a letter saying the record is restricted to
> "proper judicial order, upon the request of the parent, attorney,
> guardian or conservator."
>=20
> This confused me, so I called the town clerk to ask why this would be
> still in effect for a 86 year-old death record when any parents,
> guardians, etc. would have been dead years ago. I was told that only
> way I could get a copy would be wait until 2011.
>=20
> Since I'm sure others have run across this in your research, any
> suggestions? Also, why might a death record be restricted?
>=20
> Thanks!
> debbe
>=20
> debbe
>=20
> debb...@juno.com
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X-Message: #24
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 01:49:52 GMT
From: d...@keyway.net (Dwayne )
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341576f2...@news.keyway.net>
Subject: Re: search a good genealogist prog
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Well I can't read French so I may be repeating what was already said:
Brothers Keeper is a good program that can read GEDCOM files and it is
distributed via Shareware.
Cumberland Family Tree is another
Family Gathering is a powerful commercial program that even creates
web pages with the info you input.
I found one other KithKin from England that worked fairly well.
I would suggest going to www.shareware.com and searching for
geneaology to see what is avialable.
Hope this helps
On Sat, 06 Sep 1997 12:07:02 +0100, h...@habcnx.stben.be (Hubert
Barnich) wrote:
>Hi StThetaphane,
>
>In a message of <Sat 30 Aug 97 22:55> to All (), you wrote:
>
> S> Hello,
> S> I am a new PC user. Before I was on amiga, and I use a program name
> S> "scion". So I search a equivalent on Pc, if you know one please answ=
er me,
> S> thank you .
>
>Stephane,
>
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X-Message: #25
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 21:10:12 -0700
From: Charles Duncan <ci...@mail.airmail.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <43CB433D468B2ED7.44DA102520840CDD.F34CFD03E8152F49@library-p=
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I have just about completed inputing genealogical information at my home=20
page. You can view several surname sites with connecting names and other=
=20
data included.
Charles Duncan
Dallas
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/9011
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X-Message: #26
Date: 10 Sep 1997 02:10:59 GMT
From: bs...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Ernest Thode)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v4vjj$s...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: German
MIME-Version: 1.0
Laura vanBosje (la...@vais.net) writes:
> On Sat, 6 Sep 1997, Merritt Mullen wrote:
>>=20
>> DBrodi6140 wrote:
>> > Please help me understand what this means?
>> > Ship record from German, Swiss and others immigrants 1753.
>> > Oct. 1, 1753. Snow Good Hope, John Trump, Capt. from Hamburg, last =
from COWES.
>> >=20
>> > What is or should I say where is COWES?
>>=20
>> Cowes is a seaport on the north coast of the Isle of Wight (just south
>> of the English port of Southampton).
>>=20
> "Last from Cowes" usually indicates that the ship stopped there to take=
on
> supplies, and possibly more cargo, for the voyage. Sort of a "last gas
> before Thruway" kind of place.
>=20
> Laura vanBosje
True enough. It was a "last chance."=20
Also, though, it was the required stop at a British port for foreign
vessels bound for a British colony. Colonial officials rejected ships
whose last stop was not British, e.g. Rotterdam or Amsterdam.
Erenst THODE
--
Ernest Thode, Washington County Public Library,
Marietta, OH 45750-1973
bs...@freenet.carleton.ca
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X-Message: #27
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 22:16:53 -0400
From: Mike Lafleur <mlaf...@vnet.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341603...@vnet.net>
Subject: Re: the name turpin any body know the nationlity
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This is a post I saved re the name "Turpin." I have one Turpin in my
Tree--a Marie Turpin, born about 1700. Been wondering about the name,
myself.
-Mike
Subject: Re: Looking for origin of "Turpin"
Date: 6 Oct 1996 03:10:34 GMT
From: rls...@little-miami.iac.net (Robert L Smith)
Organization: Internet Access Cincinnati 513-887-8877
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.misc
_A Dictionary of English Surnames_ by P. H. Reaney & R. M. Wilson
(Oxford=20
UP), has
"...TURPIN derives from the ON [Old Norse] THORFINNR, from THORR, the=20
god, and the ethnic name FINNR. The French TURPIN, TOURPIN is derived
by=20
Dauzat and Michaelsson from TURPINUS, a derivative of Latin TURPIS=20
'disgraceful, base', a name adopted by the early Christians as a token
of=20
humility, which came into vogue again, its meaning forgotten, through
the=20
influence of the Chanson de Roland, where the 8th century archbishop of=20
Rheims appears as TURPIN... THORFINNR is found in Normandy where the=20
earliest examples of TURPIN occur and the modern surname is common. The=20
English and the French surnames must have the same origin."
omn...@cascade.net wrote:
>=20
> trying to find out the nationlity of the name turpin before england
> omn...@cascade.net
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Date: 10 Sep 1997 02:45:00 GMT
From: jenn...@aol.com (Jenn5472)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970910024...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: surnames-HENLEY,BOKMAN,ARBOGHAST(ARBOGAST)KING,ELDRIDGE,KEISER(K=
EYSER)RODGERS
MIME-Version: 1.0
I'm looking for ancestors in W.Va., Tenn, GA, I'm just beginning and woul=
d
appreciate any help with any of these surnames.
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X-Message: #29
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 03:29:22 GMT
From: R D TUCKER <matu...@ix.netcom.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v5463$3...@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Chicago Masonic cemetery
MIME-Version: 1.0
looking for a Masonic cemetery in Chicago. Does anyone know of its existe=
nce, where, usage,
etc?? =09
Ron
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 72
Today's Topics:
#1 Re: Nyack New York [m_b_...@post8.tele.dk (Robert =
=3D
Wid]
#2 HELP newbie [cyber...@aol.com (CyberRidr1)=
=3D
]
#3 Re: Militar Bases ["Michael W. Moak" <mmoak@concen=
=3D
tri]
#4 Re: Genealogy Odds [mapp...@aol.com (MAppellof)]
#5 Broderbund and Rootsweb [den...@gte.net (Dennis and Cat=
=3D
hy ]
#6 Help ["Darlene Putze" <Shaklee-Putze@=
=3D
wor]
#7 Re: Broderbund and Rootsweb [jm...@primenet.com (jmull)]
#8 Re: Royal Genealogy [du...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Barb=
=3D
ara]
#9 Re: Royal Genealogy [du...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Barb=
=3D
ara]
#10 All send in and conplain!!! Broder [den...@gte.net (Dennis and Ca=
=3D
thy ]
#11 Re: Princess Diana [ef...@aol.com (EFA8)]
#12 Re: DEATH OF PRINCESS DIANA [ef...@aol.com (EFA8)]
#13 German sons naming customs? [bau...@erie.ge.com (Ron Bauer=
=3D
le)]
#14 Re: Strong Family History -Books, [bau...@erie.ge.com (Ron Bauer=
=3D
le)]
#15 ENGRAVING COAT OF ARMS ["J=3DDCRGEN MAUS" <jmaus@net64=
.e=3D
s>]
#16 Re: German sons naming customs? ["Joseph Erner" <erner@iquest.n=
=3D
et>]
#17 Re: DEATH OF PRINCESS DIANA [jch...@getthe.net (church jim=
=3D
)]
#18 Re: Family Tree Maker Upgrade [let...@aol.com (LETHAR)]
#19 Re: HALL surname research [let...@aol.com (LETHAR)]
#20 FTM QUESTION (V4.0) [let...@aol.com (LETHAR)]
#21 Re: Family Tree Maker Upgrade [Michael P Mina <MINAMP@Bigpond=
=3D
.com]
#22 Re: search a good genealogist prog [Michael P Mina <MINAMP@Bigpond=
=3D
.com]
#23 Waverly, Illinois Cemetery Lookup [chell...@aol.com (Chelle2032=
=3D
)]
#24 DEUTSCHLANDER [wayn...@bit.net.au]
#25 DEUTSCHMANN [wayn...@bit.net.au]
#26 EHRLICH [wayn...@bit.net.au]
#27 DROGE/DROGEN [wayn...@bit.net.au]
#28 Indian Scout [Donald Duquet <dsduquet@theone=
=3D
.net]
#29 78th Inf Vets [musk...@aol.com (Musket III)=
=3D
]
#30 Re: Where has soc.genealogy.surnam [r2...@phoenix.net]
#31 Re: reunion genealogy program [r2...@phoenix.net]
#32 Sutherland Family-England [sl...@aol.com (Sls62)]
#33 Re: Princess Diana [Gary Forbis <forbis@accessone.=
=3D
com>]
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X-Message: #1
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 05:33:45 +0200
From: m_b_...@post8.tele.dk (Robert Widenmann)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <m_b_wide-100...@ppp191.kbh.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Nyack New York
MIME-Version: 1.0
In article <5v165v$g...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, "Bill Betchley"
<Hi.Way.Te...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Any on no of a way to access records from Nyack New york Late 1800's ea=
rly
> 1900"s.
> Thank you.
Try New City Library
Rockland Room
220 North Main Street
New City, NY 10956
Mr T. Robbins Brown
12 North Broadway,
Nyack, NY
Rockland County Historical Society
12 Ashwood Lane
Garnerville, NY 10923
Attn: Mr. F.X. Casey
In addition Rockland County has a query page:
www.rootsweb.com/~nyrockla/rcquery.htm
<If you run across a Widenmann let me know. My grandparents lived in
Nanuet, a tiney hamlet not far from Nyack.
--=20
Bob Widenmann
m_b_...@post8.tele.dk
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X-Message: #2
Date: 10 Sep 1997 03:37:36 GMT
From: cyber...@aol.com (CyberRidr1)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970910033...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: HELP newbie=20
MIME-Version: 1.0
I need help locating database's that i can accsess for famliy history.
Any would de apriceated.
Pleas email me
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X-Message: #3
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 22:37:34 -0700
From: "Michael W. Moak" <mm...@concentric.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341632...@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Militar Bases
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Peter Schultz' reply agrees with my experience with a daughter born in
Spain. My daughter born stateside was registered with the local county.
Cheers - Mike Moak
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X-Message: #4
Date: 10 Sep 1997 04:30:02 GMT
From: mapp...@aol.com (MAppellof)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970910043...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Genealogy Odds
MIME-Version: 1.0
Your "third cousin" posting is more than apt, especially given the
usually--and maybe necessary, unless one is an expert
navigator--scattershot approach most people (myself included) take to
genealogy research via the Internet. It's certainly been interesting for =
me
to receive electronic communiques from previously unknown potential
cousins, and to join forces with them in trying to find the branches, if
not twigs, that might constitute a family tree.
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X-Message: #5
Date: 9 Sep 1997 21:39:19 -0700
From: den...@gte.net (Dennis and Cathy Phillips)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341774...@gte.net>
Subject: Broderbund and Rootsweb
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Hi to all,
I was thinking about opening my own page and placing my genealogy there,=20
now I don't think I will. What a mess!!! Can't we have any thing that=20
greedy people will leave alone. Seems like this would be against the=20
rules!!! Or is there any rules!! Apparently not or else this would or=20
could not be done. Well some one needs to make some regarding this, but=20
not against all of us hard working researchers from getting what records=20
we need to further our own research.
Have a nice night
Cathy in Oregon
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X-Message: #6
Date: 10 Sep 1997 06:29:03 GMT
From: "Darlene Putze" <Shakle...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbdcc$97fab7e0$8f6974cf@b-dputze>
Subject: Help
MIME-Version: 1.0
Is my computer working? Did my families ever exsist? I put requests for
family info and apparently no one ever heard of these names:
Michael and Margaret Daugherty Cahill
Michael August Straugh
Robert and Elizabeth Walsh Carson
Robert and Rose Schmidt Carson
August Putze (Butze)
Jerry and Nora Darling Quinn
Maurice and Genevieve Holzheimer Kapp
Peter and Anna Maria (Mary) Lovy Goessling
John and Philomena Lang Zwick
Matthew and Barbara Kean Engle
If any of these names sound familiar from the past please email me!
Thank You,
Darlene Putze
Shakle...@worldnet.att.net
http://home.att.net/~Shaklee-Putze
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X-Message: #7
Date: 9 Sep 1997 23:31:01 -0700
From: jm...@primenet.com (jmull)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v5er5$8...@nntp02.primenet.com>
Subject: Re: Broderbund and Rootsweb
MIME-Version: 1.0
We all could email a complaint to Broderbund and refuse to buy their
products.
Claudette
den...@gte.net (Dennis and Cathy Phillips) wrote:
>Hi to all,
>I was thinking about opening my own page and placing my genealogy there,=
=20
>now I don't think I will. What a mess!!! Can't we have any thing that=20
>greedy people will leave alone. Seems like this would be against the=20
>rules!!! Or is there any rules!! Apparently not or else this would or=20
>could not be done. Well some one needs to make some regarding this, but=20
>not against all of us hard working researchers from getting what records=
=20
>we need to further our own research.
>Have a nice night
>Cathy in Oregon
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X-Message: #8
Date: 10 Sep 1997 06:33:02 GMT
From: du...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Barbara Hopper)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v5euu$6...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: Royal Genealogy
MIME-Version: 1.0
Michael Frisch (do...@wgn.net) writes:
> Barbara=20
>=20
> I was told that the Queen will not alow Charles to become the King.
> For reasons Im not sure.
>=20
> But I was told that the Queen will disolve the monarchy before she dies
> unless Charles abdecates and alows Wiliam to pass over him.
>=20
> Is this true?
>=20
> Micahel
Interesting! Haven't heard this gem yet, but it certainly makes for a
great discussion point. Probably wishful thinking on many peoples' parts.
I too would prefr to see William take the throne after Elizabeth, but th=
e
line of succession has to be followed.
And only Parliament can dissolve the monarchy.
Poor Queen doesn't even have the right to cancel herself...it has to be
done by vote in the House of Commons and then voted into law in the House
of Lords.
Don't worry. It'll never happen.
Barb
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X-Message: #9
Date: 10 Sep 1997 06:27:41 GMT
From: du...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Barbara Hopper)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v5ekt$6...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: Royal Genealogy
MIME-Version: 1.0
Thomas the Inquisitive (maxhe...@clo.com) writes:
> David Marks <Da...@potts.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>=20
>>In article <5v08ll$9...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>, Barbara Hopper
>><du...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> writes
>>> >=20
>>>> While Diana was alive, if Prince Charles married again (not to Diana=
), he
>>>> could not become king - correct?
>>>
>>>Right, he could not. In the Anglican church, you cannot re-marry if y=
ou
>>>have an ex-mate still living.
>>
>>It is in fact possible (and very common) for someone who is divorced an=
d whose
>>ex-spouse is still alive to remarry in the Church of England. (Not all =
vicars
>>will agree to carrying out such a marriage, but many will). The debate =
in the
>>case of Prince Charles centres around the desirability of this happenin=
g since
>>the monarch is also the Head of the Church and many churchmen (not all)=
believe
>>that it would be improper to have a divorced head of the church. Hope t=
his adds
>>to your excellent explanation. Cheers-=20
>>David Marks
>=20
>=20
> I have to jump in here with my 2 cents worth too, with regards to the
> statement:
>=20
> "In the Anglican church, you cannot re-marry if you have an ex-mate
> still living."
>=20
> I have to rebutt that statement. We live in Canada. My husband's
> family has been Anglican for several generations, and he was a very
> active member of the Anglican church all his life growing up, til
> about age 25 or so. (acted as a Server in his church too)
Sorry everyone. I should have been specific. What I was trying to get
across was that Charles could not remarry while Diana lived because of
the oath he would have to swear at his coronation, regarding becoming
"Defender of the Faith."=20
If he remarried, he would be constitutionally unacceptable as king.
But, yes, one can divorce and remarry in the Anglican church. Lucky
commoners, eh wot!
Cheers from Ottawa,
Barb
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X-Message: #10
Date: 10 Sep 1997 00:08:49 -0700
From: den...@gte.net (Dennis and Cathy Phillips)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341797...@gte.net>
Subject: All send in and conplain!!! Broderbund and Rootsweb
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Claudette,
I think that would be a good ideal, but would it do any good, well=20
if they were flooded with e-mail complaints, they might take notice=20
rather then just a few saying something.... What do you think Gang??
Cathy in Oregon
jmull wrote:
>=20
> We all could email a complaint to Broderbund and refuse to buy their
> products.
> Claudette
>=20
> den...@gte.net (Dennis and Cathy Phillips) wrote:
>=20
> >Hi to all,
>=20
> >I was thinking about opening my own page and placing my genealogy ther=
e,
> >now I don't think I will. What a mess!!! Can't we have any thing that
> >greedy people will leave alone. Seems like this would be against the
> >rules!!! Or is there any rules!! Apparently not or else this would or
> >could not be done. Well some one needs to make some regarding this, bu=
t
> >not against all of us hard working researchers from getting what recor=
ds
> >we need to further our own research.
>=20
> >Have a nice night
>=20
> >Cathy in Oregon
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X-Message: #11
Date: 10 Sep 1997 08:06:19 GMT
From: ef...@aol.com (EFA8)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970910080...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Princess Diana
MIME-Version: 1.0
I think you could throw in the du Trieux(Truax) line, too.
Jeff
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X-Message: #12
Date: 10 Sep 1997 08:34:11 GMT
From: ef...@aol.com (EFA8)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970910083...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: DEATH OF PRINCESS DIANA
MIME-Version: 1.0
Hello,
I'm sure someone will tell me if I'm out of line! To tell you the truth, =
I
think most of
the common people in this world can't say what the royal family should
act or feel like at this time of loss. I too, am from a broken family and
it is not a good thing. If the grandmother of the future king of England
would like to stay in Scotland, with her granchildren and try and help th=
em
come to terms with the
pressure of the upcoming days.....more power to her! We must all remember
this is a family; a royal and very public one but still a FAMILY. As it i=
s
royal and
very public; I think it is time we all back off and let them come to term=
s
with the
death of a very special member of their family.=20
Thanks,
Jeffrey Charles Amason, Esq.
ef...@aol.com
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X-Message: #13
Date: 5 Sep 1997 02:03:37 GMT
From: bau...@erie.ge.com (Ron Bauerle)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5unp9p$62e$2...@flounder.trans.ge.com>
Subject: German sons naming customs?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Somebody on the KNISLEY mailing list referred to "The German naming
custom of naming the first two boys after their Grandfathers."
Is there anything to this? I don't remember seeing any such pattern=20
in my own German ancestors, but will take another look...
RDB
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X-Message: #14
Date: 9 Sep 1997 02:30:57 GMT
From: bau...@erie.ge.com (Ron Bauerle)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v2cd1$9r4$1...@flounder.trans.ge.com>
Subject: Re: Strong Family History -Books, 2 vol. set
MIME-Version: 1.0
In article <hbennett.1...@hevanet.com>, hben...@hevanet.com write=
s:
>
>I have a 2 volume book written in the late 1800's entitled The Strong Fa=
mily=20
>History for sale or possible donation to good cause.
>
>If you are interested in learning more. Please e-mail and I'll dig the b=
ook up=20
>from my garage and give more details.
If it contains anything on my ancestor Sarah STRONG 1756?-1837,=20
d. Walworth, NY, m. Stephen BANCROFT (1753-1832), I'm interested :^)
Ron Bauerle
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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 17:32:18 +0200
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X-Message: #16
Date: 10 Sep 1997 10:05:05 GMT
From: "Joseph Erner" <er...@iquest.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbdc6$f8d03460$35f135ce@winbook>
Subject: Re: German sons naming customs?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Ron Bauerle <bau...@erie.ge.com> wrote in article
<5unp9p$62e$2...@flounder.trans.ge.com>...
>=20
> Somebody on the KNISLEY mailing list referred to "The German naming
> custom of naming the first two boys after their Grandfathers."
>=20
> Is there anything to this? I don't remember seeing any such pattern=20
> in my own German ancestors, but will take another look...
>=20
This is just one of several German naming customs and only occurs in
certain areas. I have found this pattern in some of my Wuerttemberg
families, but not (so far anyway) in my Westphalia or Rhineland families.
Joseph Erner
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X-Message: #17
Date: 10 Sep 1997 03:20:23 -0700
From: jch...@getthe.net (church jim)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3.0.3.16.1997090...@206.172.36.2>
Subject: Re: DEATH OF PRINCESS DIANA
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David Robinson <da...@caketown.demon.co.uk wrote:
>However, it seems that not all the lessons have been learned ! It has
>since been announced that Buckingham Palace offered, prior to the
>funeral (I think) to restore Di's title, an offer which, IMHO, the
>Spencer family quite rightly refused. Some may see this as a genuine
>offer; I see it as a misguided (some would say insensitive or cynical)
>attempt to salvage a little goodwill from a situation which has been
>handled quite appallingly by the Royal Family. Whoever their advisers
>are, they should be got rid of immediately.
=20
I heard today that Charles and the Queens Private Secretary had a going
over about the funeral. Apparently the Secretary wanted a private funeral
and Charles wanted a public one. After a long argument apparently Charles
told the secretary which flagpole he could put in his derriair. This
doesn't really sound like Charles but then who knows. I heard that she
wanted to restore Di's title but it was after her death. But then now we
are getting more into gossip than Genealogy so I think I will end it here=
,
other than to say my GGrandmother apparantley was a lady in waiting to th=
e
Roual Family but I cannnot confirm or deny this. It came from my Mother a=
nd
I am not about to accuse her of spreading rumours which she is unlikely t=
o
do, but is there a way of check names of former Ladies-In-Waiting??
Jim
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X-Message: #18
Date: 10 Sep 1997 10:32:28 GMT
From: let...@aol.com (LETHAR)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970910103...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Family Tree Maker Upgrade
MIME-Version: 1.0
I have version 4.0 and like the "book" feature. I published a book on my
family, had it bound and passed it out at a family reunion this summer. =
To
me, it was worth the upgrade for that feature.
Searching in NJ: King, Corwin, Drake, Dickerson, Garlick, Waer/Weir,
Chamberlain, Byram, Caskey, Hilts, Wolfe, Vail, etc.
OH: Jenkinson, Vail, Corwin
SC: Snipes, Biggs, Coward, Coleman, Flowers, Marlow, Ward, etc.
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X-Message: #19
Date: 10 Sep 1997 10:33:51 GMT
From: let...@aol.com (LETHAR)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970910103...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: HALL surname research
MIME-Version: 1.0
I have Hall in Morris County, NJ if you're interested.
Searching in NJ: King, Corwin, Drake, Dickerson, Garlick, Waer/Weir,
Chamberlain, Byram, Caskey, Hilts, Wolfe, Vail, etc.
OH: Jenkinson, Vail, Corwin
SC: Snipes, Biggs, Coward, Coleman, Flowers, Marlow, Ward, etc.
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X-Message: #20
Date: 10 Sep 1997 10:37:55 GMT
From: let...@aol.com (LETHAR)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970910103...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: FTM QUESTION (V4.0)
MIME-Version: 1.0
I can't seem to figure out how to make a GEDCOM of only part of my file.=20
I can make and send one on the entire file (about 6000 people) but most
people are not interested in everyone I have collected. Please e-mail, i=
f
you have done this and/or know how to do it. I'm not a computer whiz, so
please explain in regular English not computerese.
Thanks
Searching in NJ: King, Corwin, Drake, Dickerson, Garlick, Waer/Weir,
Chamberlain, Byram, Caskey, Hilts, Wolfe, Vail, etc.
OH: Jenkinson, Vail, Corwin
SC: Snipes, Biggs, Coward, Coleman, Flowers, Marlow, Ward, etc.
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X-Message: #21
Date: 10 Sep 97 12:29:58 GMT
From: Michael P Mina <MIN...@Bigpond.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34169...@139.134.5.33>
Subject: Re: Family Tree Maker Upgrade
MIME-Version: 1.0
sel...@aol.com (Selna V) writes: > Has anyone bought the new Family Tree =
Maker upgrade? What do you think of
> it? I was thinking of buying it and want to make sure it is worth the
> price before I buy it.
I have purchased V4.0 of FTM and the new items such a generations report =
and
books option are great. It also now gives me online access from within
the program to FTM on the Internet and I also get a homepage on FTM site
which should be helpful in future family tree research. Have also begun
to transmit my several family trees to the World Family Tree via the
Internet from within the program. Can't fault it.
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X-Message: #22
Date: 10 Sep 97 12:32:48 GMT
From: Michael P Mina <MIN...@Bigpond.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34169...@139.134.5.33>
Subject: Re: search a good genealogist prog
MIME-Version: 1.0
Give Family Tree Maker a try. Access a trial copy on http:/www.familytree=
maker.com and see if it meets your
needs. I have compared it to many other programs and am most satisfied w=
ith it.
Michael P Mina ... Australia
d...@keyway.net (Dwayne ) writes: > Well I can't read French so I may be r=
epeating what was already said:
>=20
> Brothers Keeper is a good program that can read GEDCOM files and it is
> distributed via Shareware.
>=20
> Cumberland Family Tree is another
>=20
> Family Gathering is a powerful commercial program that even creates
> web pages with the info you input.
>=20
> I found one other KithKin from England that worked fairly well.
>=20
> I would suggest going to www.shareware.com and searching for
> geneaology to see what is avialable.
>=20
> Hope this helps
>=20
>=20
> On Sat, 06 Sep 1997 12:07:02 +0100, h...@habcnx.stben.be (Hubert
> Barnich) wrote:
>=20
> >Hi StThetaphane,
> >
> >In a message of <Sat 30 Aug 97 22:55> to All (), you wrote:
> >
> > S> Hello,
> > S> I am a new PC user. Before I was on amiga, and I use a program nam=
e
> > S> "scion". So I search a equivalent on Pc, if you know one please an=
swer me,
> > S> thank you .
> >
> >Stephane,
> >
>=20
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X-Message: #23
Date: 10 Sep 1997 11:49:42 GMT
From: chell...@aol.com (Chelle2032)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970910114...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Waverly, Illinois Cemetery Lookup Needed
MIME-Version: 1.0
Wish to find someone who could transcribe the headstones for Raymond
Coons, Lula Keirsey Harris Coons, and William Harris. All buried in the
East Cemetery in Waverly, Illinois The had died in the mid-1900s.
Thanks,
Michelle Bley
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X-Message: #24
Date: 10 Sep 1997 11:54:23 GMT
From: wayn...@bit.net.au
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v61pf$9fi$2...@hermes.bit.net.au>
Subject: DEUTSCHLANDER
MIME-Version: 1.0
i am researching the DEUTSCHLANDER FAMILY in Germany about 1820's in=20
Gerswalde.
Is anybody out there who can help me.
Thank you
wayne
An aussie.
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X-Message: #25
Date: 10 Sep 1997 11:51:57 GMT
From: wayn...@bit.net.au
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v61kt$9fi$1...@hermes.bit.net.au>
Subject: DEUTSCHMANN
MIME-Version: 1.0
i am researching the DEUTSCHMANN FAMILY in Germany about 1870 in Finkens=
tein,=20
Germany.=20
Is anybody out there who is doing the same.
thank you
wayne
an aussie.
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X-Message: #26
Date: 10 Sep 1997 11:59:09 GMT
From: wayn...@bit.net.au
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v622d$9fi$4...@hermes.bit.net.au>
Subject: EHRLICH
MIME-Version: 1.0
i am researching the EHRLICH FAMILY in ancient germany in the 1800's from=
Bornitz,=20
Poland.
Is there anybody out there who can help me.
thank you=20
wayne=20
aussie.
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X-Message: #27
Date: 10 Sep 1997 11:56:52 GMT
From: wayn...@bit.net.au
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v61u4$9fi$3...@hermes.bit.net.au>
Subject: DROGE/DROGEN
MIME-Version: 1.0
I am researching the DROGE/DROGEN family in Germany about 1790's in=20
Kosel/Cosel Germany.
Is there any body out there who can help me.
thank you=20
Wayne
an aussie.
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X-Message: #28
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 08:53:54 -0400
From: Donald Duquet <dsdu...@theone.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34169862...@theone.net>
Subject: Indian Scout
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Did you wonder if the "Indian Scout" in all the old western movies was a
real character? He was. "Reckless" Jack Durgin was in Custer's command
on Montana. He returned to Roxbury, MA unscathed had a family got TB
went to Highlands, NC for treatment returned to Boston 45 years later to
visit his sister, my grandmother. Reckless Jack is a decendant of John
Folsom who came to US in 1600s and settled in NH. I put the article on
my domain at http://mims.com/reckless.htm I had to post it as a *.gif
because it was yellowed and faded and my OCR wouldn't recognize the
words. More info about Highlands, NC TB hospital and his family to
interested parties.
--=20
Sincerely, Donald
Save the environment and save money with
Super 21 gasoline/diesel additive.
It's on Mims Mall http://mims.com/
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X-Message: #29
Date: 10 Sep 1997 13:29:29 GMT
From: musk...@aol.com (Musket III)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970910132...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: 78th Inf Vets
MIME-Version: 1.0
Just discovered uncle I never met served 39-444,Chaplain 78th Inf
Div..George Wallace Doherty.If any one knew him,please email me at=20
musk...@aol.comThanks in advance
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X-Message: #30
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:18:37 -0500
From: r2...@phoenix.net
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3416AC...@phoenix.net>
Subject: Re: Where has soc.genealogy.surnames gone?
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Lionel Fraser wrote:
>=20
> Robert W. Bass wrote:
> >
> > Recently I have been unable to get to soc.genealogy.surnames. My new=
sreader
> > says the there are 0 articles in the newsgroup. Is it still active o=
r do I
> > have a problem at my end?
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Bob
> I still receive soc.genealogy.surnames through my ISP sympatico.
> Could you have read them all and thus show none?
> Lionel
Sounds like the newsreader at your ISP is malfunctioning. Call them.
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X-Message: #31
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:17:16 -0500
From: r2...@phoenix.net
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3416AB...@phoenix.net>
Subject: Re: reunion genealogy program
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Gene Campbell wrote:
>=20
> I am looking for a copy of Reunion or the demo, all my genealogy data
> is stuck in a copy that got hosed during a recent system crash.
> Please, Please help. I need to extract that data. email me at
> dark...@smart1.net
Information on Reunion for Mac can be found at http://www.leisterpro.com
-- They used to have demos there also.
Information on Reunon for Windows (not much) will now be found at the
new owner of the program: http://www.sierra.com -- good luck.
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X-Message: #32
Date: 10 Sep 1997 15:07:16 GMT
From: sl...@aol.com (Sls62)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970910150...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Sutherland Family-England
MIME-Version: 1.0
I am looking for any information on the surname Sutherland.Having a lot o=
f
trouble tracing my fathers side.Need some help.
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X-Message: #33
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 08:32:56 -0700
From: Gary Forbis <for...@accessone.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3416BD...@accessone.com>
Subject: Re: Princess Diana
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EFA8 wrote:
>=20
> I think you could throw in the du Trieux(Truax) line, too.
>=20
> Jeff
Does this mean through the William Merrill/Penelope Stout line.
I didn't know she descended from this line. Maybe she comes
by the Merrill and du Trieux lines separately.
--=20
--gary=20
for...@accessone.com
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 75
Today's Topics:
#1 Re: Nyack New York [beerdl@[REMOVE.NO.SPAM]kos.net]
#2 Re: Record all those Birthdays & a [beerdl@[REMOVE.NO.SPAM]kos.net]
#3 Re: CA Death Index, How to Obtain [geo...@the.little.jungle]
#4 Rosiene, Greene, Strum [j...@news.utk.edu (james m Burton)]
#5 Fogler Family Research [tra...@pacbell.net (Beverlee Broa]
#6 Re: LDS Library, Salt Lake City [geo...@the.little.jungle]
#7 Fogelman-Fogelson [to...@early.com (Jerry)]
#8 Re: Laptop's in research [Jb...@interact.net.au (John )]
#9 Seeking The Family Tree Magazine o [fsm...@mhv.net]
#10 Re: the name turpin any body know [bjs...@aol.com (BJsTOY)]
#11 RIDER Amanda Plowman; PA,USA,D. 19 [lowef...@mindspring.com (Lowe)]
#12 filter choice for photo copying ["vernon Ray Purvis" <vernonpur@igl]
#13 Re: HELP newbie [James A Honeychuck <jimhoney@world]
#14 Henninger, Horn, Waltz, etc. [hunt...@geocities.com]
#15 Re: Royal Genealogy [he...@Hawaii.Edu (Virginia E Hench]
#16 Hart (CT) [hunt...@geocities.com]
#17 Broderbund's Internet FamilyFinder [paul_bu...@broder.com (Paul B]
#18 Bennis, Fitzgerald [hunt...@geocities.com]
#19 Re: 78th Inf Vets [James A Honeychuck <jimhoney@world]
#20 GAYHART, Floyd E.; IN,USA; b.1902 [NetSurfer <tas...@jeffnet.org>]
#21 Re: Does North Sandford, Broome Co [James A Honeychuck <jimhoney@world]
#22 LAWTON SEARCH ["John Doe" <New...@wonet.buu.net>]
#23 Re: CRAMER [cat...@aol.com (CatMom1)]
#24 Re: QUINN - Pittsburgh, PA [bills...@aol.com (Billshau29)]
#25 Re: Cramer ["Dale Craymer" <cra...@flash.net>]
#26 Richey, Hiram Benson/ Des Moines, [George Heine <ghe...@azstarnet.com]
#27 Howard Lineage [Howard <jeh...@marsweb.com>]
#28 Re: Princess Diana's URL [Jim Roache <jfro...@echelon.ca>]
#29 Re: Princess Diana's URL [Jim Roache <jfro...@echelon.ca>]
#30 25,300 NAMES and 3300 SURNAMES ["James L. Edenfield" <e...@hom.net>]
#31 Glendale CA cemetery search??? [Michael Frisch <do...@wgn.net>]
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X-Message: #1
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:35:58 GMT
From: beerdl@[REMOVE.NO.SPAM]kos.net
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3416c...@news.kosone.com>
Subject: Re: Nyack New York
MIME-Version: 1.0
In article <19970909220...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, jnort...@aol.com (JNorton720) wrote:
>>Any on no of a way to access records from Nyack New york Late 1800's early
>>1900"s.
>>Thank you.
I missed you're original posting so I had to respond here...... By chance are
you inquiring about Nyack New York in regards to a Missionary Institute that
was (or is?) there? My Grandmother attended Nyack Missionary Institute for
three years and I have her autograph book from that time (1924,25,26).
LeeAnn
E-mail: beerdl@<REMOVE NO SPAM>kos.net
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{ Researching my family's history: }
{ http://www.visualcreations.com/pers/leeann/genealogy/ }
{ WHATLING Family History, a one name study }
{ http://www.visualcreations.com/pers/leeann/whatling/ }
{ Suffolk Surname Interest List (U.K.): }
{ http://www.visualcreations.com/pers/leeann/suffolk/ }
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X-Message: #2
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:43:55 GMT
From: beerdl@[REMOVE.NO.SPAM]kos.net
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3416c...@news.kosone.com>
Subject: Re: Record all those Birthdays & anniversaries
MIME-Version: 1.0
In article <997cd$c29c.2c7@NEWS>, The Shadow <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>I found the perfect gift for my mother. Check out this
>web site. www.ieway.com/business/gifts I bought one
>for my mother & she likes it so well I"m ordering more
>for christmas presents for my 2 sisters my 2 grandmothers
>& close friends. It makes an excellent & inexpensive gift
Love the wording, from "nob...@nowhere.com" - obviously a marketing ploy
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X-Message: #3
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 22:19:03 GMT
From: geo...@the.little.jungle
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v76ic$m...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: CA Death Index, How to Obtain
MIME-Version: 1.0
Ken
Depending on where you are located, the LDS Family History center in
West LA has the CA Death Index for the 1900's. I am returning there
shortly and hopefully will be able to find out where I can find the
records for 1800's.
They are very helpful and friendly people, even to nonmembers!
Good Luck.
Janet
On Wed, 27 Aug 1997 17:39:16 -0400, Ken Cox <ken...@erols.com> wrote:
>I have employed services to do lookups in the CA Death Index but would
>now like to consider accessing this index directly if I can do so
>conveniently and cost effectively. Does anyone know how to obtain the
>CA Death Index and how much it costs?
>
>Ken
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X-Message: #4
Date: 10 Sep 1997 22:27:29 GMT
From: j...@news.utk.edu (james m Burton)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v76sh$m6e$1...@gaia.ns.utk.edu>
Subject: Rosiene, Greene, Strum
MIME-Version: 1.0
Interested in finding information on the surnames Rosiene, Greene, Strum
in Connecticut. jm...@juno.com
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X-Message: #5
Date: 10 Sep 1997 15:57:57 -0700
From: tra...@pacbell.net (Beverlee Broadlick)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34171F...@pacbell.net>
Subject: Fogler Family Research
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Researching Fogler. Samuel Fogler bca 1876 IL d abt 1940 KS married
several times had twelve ch or so. appreciate any info any Fogler
Beverlee Broadlick
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X-Message: #6
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 23:11:00 GMT
From: geo...@the.little.jungle
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v79jp$1...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: LDS Library, Salt Lake City
MIME-Version: 1.0
I recently went to the West LA Family Center. They had a half hour
talk on the organization of their facility. Ask at the front desk if
this is available at Salt Lake Center. It definitely saved me a lot
of useless serching!
I could contact a relative of mine who has spent weeks there doing her
research. Let me know.
On Sun, 07 Sep 1997 14:22:39 GMT, cmw...@iwvisp.com (Claude Wood)
wrote:
>I'm planning a visit to the LDS library in Salt Lake City. Has anyone
>been there who can give me some pointers? Where's the best place to
>start, etc. Also, does anyone know of an RV park in that general
>area? Never having been there, I don't want to waste research time
>stumbling around trying to find where to start. If you answer by
>email I am certain to receive it. Thanks in advance.
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Date: 10 Sep 1997 23:55:30 GMT
From: to...@early.com (Jerry)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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My mother, a Fogelson, married my father, Fogelman. I am looking for
ancestors of Fogelson's who came from Dvinsk Libau, Russia, and for
Fogelman's who came from Gleboke, Poland, which at one time was in
Russia. Any help will be appreciated.
--
Jerry Fogelman
Reading, Pa.
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X-Message: #8
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 23:56:43 GMT
From: Jb...@interact.net.au (John )
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Laptop's in research
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A few have mmentioned palmtops, especially the Psion. Can someone give
me some information on its capabilities. I would be interested in
record keeping, word processing but ultimately I would need to
transfer information back to my desktop (IBM PC using Win95 and TMG
genealogy software, as well as Office).
Your thoughts would be appreciated.
John
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X-Message: #9
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 00:07:13 GMT
From: fsm...@mhv.net
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Seeking The Family Tree Magazine of UK address/telephone #
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Hi,
I am looking for the current address and telephone number of the
Family Tree Magazine in the UK. I am interested in subscribing and
possibly speaking to the advertising department about the placement of
an ad.
The magazine does have a web page at
http://www.kitecom.co.uk/genealog/family.html
but no regular mail or phone contact information is provided. I have
attempted twice to email to them via the page and not received an
answer.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
Frederick E. Smith
Email: fsm...@mhv.net
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X-Message: #10
Date: 11 Sep 1997 00:20:08 GMT
From: bjs...@aol.com (BJsTOY)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: the name turpin any body know the nationlity
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There are TURPINS in Quebec in the late 1600's. They are listed in Jette &
Tanguay. So I would assume this to be a French name.
Barb
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X-Message: #11
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 23:12:07 GMT
From: lowef...@mindspring.com (Lowe)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: RIDER Amanda Plowman; PA,USA,D. 1901
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She is my grandmother. We know nothing of her history except that she
died In Philadelphia, PA. She had two children: Edward S. Rider
b.1897 and Anne Plowman Rider b. 1901. We have identified the Rider
side of the family, but can not find anything on our grandmother.
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X-Message: #12
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 23:50:35 GMT
From: "vernon Ray Purvis" <vern...@iglou.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbe47$685b4a60$28efffcc@vernon>
Subject: filter choice for photo copying
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--
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vernon Ray Purvis
vern...@iglou.com
http://members.iglou.com/vernonpur
I have a copy stand and a camera with a macro lens. I have been told that
a yellow filter is needed to removed the yellowing of old photos. Do I
need one that is made just for Black and White? I seen a ad in which they
come in Light, medium, and dark yellow, which one would I need. The old
photos I am going to copy have faded to a light yellow.
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X-Message: #13
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 21:20:46 -0400
From: James A Honeychuck <jimh...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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CyberRidr1 wrote:
>
> I need help locating database's that i can accsess for famliy history.
> Any would de apriceated.
>
> Cyber...@aol.com
>
> Pleas email me
Quite a few things at this site:
http://pages.prodigy.com/M/I/N/middleton/topten.htm
Jim
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X-Message: #14
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 20:25:55 -0500
From: hunt...@geocities.com
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Henninger, Horn, Waltz, etc.
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Found a cousin of my husband's grandmother currently living, she's 72.
She gave me alot of names but didn't know dates or exact locations.
Most are in the Central Indiana area. If these sound familiar to you or
if you know these names please e-mail me and we'll talk.
John Franklin Henninger (Illinois) m. Elizabeth Stanley (Lexington, KY)
They had 9 children... Pearle Franklin Henninger m. Inez Marie Haskell
Mable Henninger m. Walter Charles Horn; Harold Henninger m. Edith Ross
Claude Henninger (Army career - never married) - Twin - Clyde Henninger
m. Alice ?
Bertha Henninger m. James K. Doty (Ohio); Art Henninger m. Biddy ?;
Lester Henninger (nothing known) and Merle Henninger m. Cecile ?.
Pearle and Inez had 5 children... Pearle Franklin Henninger II, Wilbur
Earl Henninger,
John Ellsworth Henninger, Mary Francis Henninger m. James Carroll Graves
(KY);
and Barbara Cecile Henninger m. Robert Elliott
Mable and Walter had 9 children.. Walter Horn Jr.; Nelly Horn m. ?
Campbell;
Julia Horn m. Gene Abney; Claude (Happy) Horn; Paul (Rip) Horn; Harold
Horn; Robert Horn m. Virginia ?; William Horn; and Margie Horn m. ?
Waltz
This is pretty much what I have right now except for a few children of
these children, etc.
Laura Waltz, beginning genealogist
hunt...@geocities.com
P.S. Home page coming soon for the family tree.
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X-Message: #15
Date: 11 Sep 1997 00:52:32 GMT
From: he...@Hawaii.Edu (Virginia E Hench)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Royal Genealogy
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: Michael Frisch (do...@wgn.net) writes:
: > But I was told that the Queen will disolve the monarchy before she dies
: > unless Charles abdecates and alows Wiliam to pass over him.
: >
I would think that there would be donkeys flying and
ice hockey in hades before HM would dissolve the monarchy.
Aloha, Ginny in Honolulu
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X-Message: #16
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 20:34:40 -0500
From: hunt...@geocities.com
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Hart (CT)
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Mother's side of the family is almost non-existent for information. I
do know this...
Charles Edward Hart (b. approx 1921- New London, CT) m. Eleanor Louise
Iserman (b. Aug 21, 1925 - West Southfield, CT - d. Mar 6, 1981 - New
Orleans, LA) Married in 1945. Divorced while my mother was still
young. 2 children - David Edward Hart (b. Apr 10, 1946 and Althea
Louise Hart (b. Apr 24, 1949 - New London, CT) David currently lives in
NC and Althea was married, now divorced and living in Indianapolis,IN
It is unknown if Charles is still alive and if so where is currently
at. I did find one with similar dates and birthplace in the SSDI having
died in Reno NV in 1994. If this is the one I would really like to find
information to see if he ever remarried, more children, etc.
If you can help please e-mail me at hunt...@geocities.com.
Thanks,
Laura Waltz
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X-Message: #17
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 01:35:08 GMT
From: paul_bu...@broder.com (Paul Burchfield)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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I'm posting this on behalf of Eric Holstege who is the Vice President of
Online Business for the Banner Blue division of Broderbund Software.
Sincerely,
Paul Burchfield
Broderbund Software,
Banner Blue division
===============
There has been some confusion and mis-information about the Internet
FamilyFinder and Broderbund's robot, and I'd like to clear this up. The
Internet FamilyFinder is a search engine for the genealogy community. If you
have tried using any of the "big" search engines for genealogy research,
you've undoubtedly received a lot of false hits because they contain so much
that is irrelevant to genealogy. We are trying to solve that problem. What we
are trying to do is to produce an index of all the publicly available
genealogy resources on the Internet.
So, how is this better than, say, AltaVista, for genealogy research?
- Internet FamilyFinder ONLY indexes genealogically relevant pages. This
reduces all the false hits that clutter up a hit list from a "big" search
engine.
- It is intelligent about finding and indexing just peoples' names, not all
the extraneous keywords.
- It presents contextual information around each "hit", like birth dates, etc.
that allow the user to quickly find pages that are actually useful to him.
These characteristics make it a much more powerful tool for genealogy research
than a general search engine. We believe that this service will benefit not
only researchers, but also the majority of genealogy sites, which are
maintained by volunteers to help the genealogy community. Internet
FamilyFinder makes it much easier to find all the data that has been put up by
these volunteers.
I want to address some important concerns that have been raised:
- Internet FamilyFinder is absolutely FREE to anyone.
- We DO not and WILL not take anyone's data, we are ONLY indexing it. This is
no more and no less than AltaVista, InfoSeek, Lycos, and a host of others are
doing.
- We absolutely recognize that data on the Internet is copyrighted and owned
by others. We will NEVER take copyrighted data off the Internet by this or any
other process and put it on our web server or a CD-ROM without the owner's
permission.
Let me explain how the Internet FamilyFinder creates its index. It uses a
"robot", just a browser operated by a computer program. This robot browses
genealogy sites looking for names to add to the index. The difference between
our robot and, for example, the AltaVista robot, is that AltaVista only visits
the top few pages of each site, whereas we visit all the pages to ensure that
we've indexed all the names. We only visit each new page once. For a site with
a few hundred pages, that's a few hundred hits - a minimal load. A site with
thousands of pages, like RootsWeb, is designed to handle thousands of hits; it
has thousands of users.
We have spoken with one of the USGenWeb national coordinators, who was
thrilled by the Internet FamilyFinder and very supportive. We've attempted
open communication with RootsWeb, but have not yet been successful. I don't
feel that this is the proper forum to discuss specifics between Broderbund and
RootsWeb, so I will not go into detail. I will say that we are more than
eager to work with anyone to make sure that our efforts do not cause problems,
but are genuinely useful and positive. Our goal is to provide genealogy
enthusiasts with the best tools available to help them find information about
their ancestors on the Internet.
Eric Holstege
VP, Online Business
Banner Blue Division
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X-Message: #18
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 20:50:15 -0500
From: hunt...@geocities.com
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Currently researching Bennis family tree. Family of Harry Bennis born 7
Jun 1882 m. to Anna Henrietta Benjamin born 22 May 1881. Her family was
from somewhere around Cologne, Germany and were probably born around
1848. (They were both 33 when Anna was born.) Harry's parents were
William and Lusie (Wade) Bennis were probably born around 1859. (He was
23 and she was 18) Birthplace for both of them is listed as America so
that doesn't help. Anna and Harry were both born in New York City.
They had 5 sons that I know of William, Milton, Harold and 2 others
names unknown.
Harold Robert Bennis was born 31 Mar 1909 in New York he married
Margaret Rose Fitzgerald born Dec 24, 1909. They had 2 children...Glady
Ruth (Bennis) Evan born 6 Sep 1938 and Howard James Bennis born 14 Apr
1948 (West Orange, NJ). Glady did not have children and is currently
living in FL. Harold is still living and also in FL. Margaret died Aug
6, 1984 and is currently buried in NJ. Howard has 2 children and is
living in IN.
Margaret Fitzgerald was born to William and Clara (Martin) Fitzgerald
both of Ireland they were 35 at the time of her birth so that would
make them born around 1874. Clara died in 1923. William left the
family before Clara died and it is unknown about when he died or where.
I do know she had 1 younger sister Ruth and 2 older sisters and an older
brother but I do not know their names.
If you have any information on them please e-mail me at
hunt...@geocities.com
Thanks,
Laura Waltz
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X-Message: #19
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 21:49:05 -0400
From: James A Honeychuck <jimh...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v7ivh$o...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: 78th Inf Vets
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Musket III wrote:
>
> Just discovered uncle I never met served 39-444,Chaplain 78th Inf
> Div..George Wallace Doherty.If any one knew him,please email me at
> musk...@aol.comThanks in advance
If you have not already done so, contact this veterans' group:
Organization/Unit 78th Inf Div
Service: Army
Branch: Infantry
Contact Name: Mr. John Swengel
Address: 508 Orange Dr
West Palm Beach, FL, 32701-5350
Phone: 407-260-2438
Newsletter: The Flash
This information is from http://www.army.mil/vetinfo/
Jim
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X-Message: #20
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 18:55:59 -0700
From: NetSurfer <tas...@jeffnet.org>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: GAYHART, Floyd E.; IN,USA; b.1902
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Seeking information regarding Floyd E. Gayhart, born Feb. 4, 1902
in Pike County, Indiana, the son of Floyd Ashby and Doll Snyder.
Floyd E. Gayhart m. Lizzie Wira (m. @1923)
Howard Gayhart
Floyd "Bill" Gayhart (d. aft 1991)
Floyd E. Gayhart died in 1991 in Winslow, Indiana.
I am very interested in learning how Floyd became a Gayhart. His
father, Floyd Ashby lived until 1982. I know nothing of his mother,
Doll Snyder. Perhaps she and Floyd divorced and she then remarried?
Floyd Ashby married a woman named Clara D. Arnold on March 9, 1909.
Floyd and Clara had five children.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
T. Ashby
tas...@jeffnet.org
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X-Message: #21
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 22:08:27 -0400
From: James A Honeychuck <jimh...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Does North Sandford, Broome Co exist? leifs...@borre.mail.telia.com
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Leif Stensland wrote:
>=20
> My uncle Alfred Nicolai Abrahamsen emigrate to America in Sept 1926
> and my father K=E5re Andreas Abrahamsen followed him some later. Their
> destination was North Sandford, Broome Co. N.y.
> I am doing some genealogy and looking for some ancestors.
> I also wondering what is N Sandford, Broome Could you please give me
> some information's?
>=20
> Leif Stensland. A =D8verlandsvei 12 3184 Horten Norway
>=20
> e-mail: leifs...@borre.mail.telia.com
Broome County NY has a home page at http://www.broomecounty.com/ =20
I don't see a genealogy society there, but you could e-mail someone.
You can see North Sanford (no "d") on a map at http://www.mapquest.com
Good luck in your search.
Jim
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X-Message: #22
Date: 11 Sep 1997 02:02:25 GMT
From: "John Doe" <New...@wonet.buu.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: LAWTON SEARCH
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Hi I am looking for info on any Lawtons. I have info on my line in
Pennsylvania, and some info from England, and would be glad to share with
anyone.
Please e-mail me.
law...@bwkip.com
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X-Message: #23
Date: 11 Sep 1997 03:08:12 GMT
From: cat...@aol.com (CatMom1)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970911030...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: CRAMER
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I have Kramers in Louisville, KY in the 1850's. Let me know if you need them.
Alex Luken
cat...@aol.com
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X-Message: #24
Date: 11 Sep 1997 03:12:06 GMT
From: bills...@aol.com (Billshau29)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: QUINN - Pittsburgh, PA
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In article <19970909034...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
thoe...@aol.com (THoeypgh) writes:
>I'm looking for any information on Rose Quinn (b1849, d1908) who was
>married to Nicholas Hoey. They lived in the Soho district of Pittsburgh on
>Tustin Street. Two other related Quinn's may be James Quinn (b1851, d
>1905) and Neil Quinn (b1847, d 1900). All three are buried in Calvary
>Cemetary in Pittsburgh.
>
>
Tom:
If you haven't already done so, contact Calvary Cemetary and get
information on the burial plot(s). This will give some clue as to possible
relationships, and may well give you some ideas for further search.
While you are at it, I would suggest that you also investigate St.
Mary's cemetary (in the old days always good for several thousand votes on
Election Day). St. Mary's records are very good.
Bill
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X-Message: #25
Date: 11 Sep 1997 03:25:34 GMT
From: "Dale Craymer" <cra...@flash.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Cramer
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deborah <wic...@iafrica.com> wrote in article
<3414C0...@iafrica.com>...
>
> Does anybody know the heritage of the surname Cramer?
>
> Please let me know.
>
The name Cramer (or "Kramer," or other variants) is German in origin,
although which part I am not sure. Family legend holds that our name was
originally spelled with a "K," and that we originally came from around
Bavaria.
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X-Message: #26
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 20:16:09 -0700
From: George Heine <ghe...@azstarnet.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Richey, Hiram Benson/ Des Moines, Ia/1920
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Searching for the family of Hiram Benson Richey, age 50, who is recorded
in the 1920 soundex. He was living on 7th St, Des moines at that time.
His wife was Fanny S,age 41 and a 11 year old daughter, Helen.
Would appreciated any help.
--
ghe...@azstarnet.com
http://www.azstarnet.com/~gheine/index.html
14369 Lost Arrow Dr
Tucson, Az 85737
520-825-0171
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X-Message: #27
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 22:58:44 -0600
From: Howard <jeh...@marsweb.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Howard Lineage
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Does anyone have any info on Thomas Jefferson Howard(Aug 29, 1812 - Oct
28, 1865) where(?) or his son William Adolphus Howard(Dec 9, 1836 - Jan
22, 1885). Born in Caswell Co., Milton, N.C. Apparently William had a
store, meat market and farm in Milton, and served in the Confederate
Army.
Any information about these two, or relatives, would be appreciated!!
Thanks,
T.Howard
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X-Message: #28
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 01:05:38 -0400
From: Jim Roache <jfro...@echelon.ca>
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Subject: Re: Princess Diana's URL
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http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal00065
That accursed URL which caused me so much grief is back up at the moment.
Double click the blue.
Jim
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X-Message: #29
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 01:18:19 -0400
From: Jim Roache <jfro...@echelon.ca>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Princess Diana's URL
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http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal00065
That accursed URL which caused me so much grief is back up at the moment.
Double click the blue.
Jim
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X-Message: #30
Date: 11 Sep 97 05:37:27 GMT
From: "James L. Edenfield" <e...@hom.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: 25,300 NAMES and 3300 SURNAMES
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There are over 25,300 names and 3300 surnames at
http://www.hom.net/~egs
Completely searchable database!!!
Absolute FREE!!
NO ads!!!!!
Thanks
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X-Message: #31
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 00:08:11 -0700
From: Michael Frisch <do...@wgn.net>
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RAWOOD
You asked about a lookup in a cemetery in Glendale c.1935.
Glendale was not big at that time as it is today.
(about 20 Min drive from downtown Los Angeles)
I might be able to help if you give me the name of the Cemetery.
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 76
Today's Topics:
#1 Re: Seeking The Family Tree Magazi ["Nigel S. Barker" <Ni...@a6law.dem]
#2 Re: Why Swedish Immigration To Ill [patch...@aol.com (PATCHELLCJ)]
#3 Los Angleles Co Birth Death Marrag [Michael Frisch <do...@wgn.net>]
#4 Help: Davis Co., IA _ obit lookup [jim...@ic.new-ulm.mn.us (Jim Hump]
#5 -= FREE live adult phone chat =- [<free...@jooejeez.com>]
#6 Re: finding surnames online [anpi...@igrin.co.nz (Anne Pickett]
#7 Latest version of FTW? [Eric...@net.HCC.nl (Eric Augustei]
#8 Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFi [jswi...@borg.com (John S. Wilkins]
#9 Genealogy List??? [den...@gte.net (Dennis and Cathy ]
#10 Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFi [locke...@aol.com (LOCKEroots)]
#11 Bitchenor - Anything anyone? [chr...@best.com (Chris Cook)]
#12 Bitchenor - Anything, anyone? [chr...@best.com (Chris Cook)]
#13 ROOTS-L SIGNOFF! [Charlotte Maness <CManess@Lescom.o]
#14 Re: "Dode" = Dorothy???? ["Gregory L. Bender" <glbender@erol]
#15 Re: German sons naming customs? [Tim Conrad <tco...@lucent.com>]
#16 JARMAN ["John L. German" <ger...@jarman.ne]
#17 Re: St. John's Cemetery, NY [Alexis Kinney Carrington <alexiskc]
#18 Most Numerous Irish American Surna ["Dermot O'Brien" <joint-venture@wo]
#19 Re: Latest version of FTW? [locke...@aol.com (LOCKEroots)]
#20 Diana WebSite [bayo...@aol.com (BAYOU JAC)]
#21 NEW! LOUISIANA GENEALOGY WEBRING! [bayo...@aol.com (BAYOU JAC)]
#22 Mitchell / UK ["Harold" <hco...@globalnet.co.uk>]
#23 Re: Laptop's in research:Mac ["Randrup, Peter & Eleanor" <hardhe]
#24 Re: Royal Genealogy [maria...@aol.com (MarianB527)]
#25 Bitchenor - Anything anyone? ["Christopher Cook" <chr...@best.co]
#26 Saulsbury [tra...@pacbell.net (Beverlee Broa]
#27 Harman/Harmon [tra...@pacbell.net (Beverlee Broa]
#28 Obituary Lookup - Brooklyn, Kings [Chris <chris...@ecsu.campus.mci.]
#29 Daniels [tra...@pacbell.net (Beverlee Broa]
#30 SIMS; ENG > VA,USA; 1485-1785 [camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield]
#31 Genealogical Relationship terms [sher...@azure.engin.umich.edu (Je]
#32 Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFi [cher...@aol.com (ChersFmly)]
#33 LEWIS; GA,USA > NC,USA; 1750-1870 [camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield]
#34 Re: Software... again!? ["Geoff Cadogan" <us...@msn.com>]
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X-Message: #1
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 07:58:33 +0100
From: "Nigel S. Barker" <Ni...@a6law.demon.co.uk>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <WTRA0AAZ...@a6law.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Seeking The Family Tree Magazine of UK address/telephone #
In article <341735ca...@news.ulster.net>, fsm...@mhv.net writes
>Hi,
>
>I am looking for the current address and telephone number of the
>Family Tree Magazine in the UK. I am interested in subscribing and
>possibly speaking to the advertising department about the placement of
>an ad.
>
>The magazine does have a web page at
>http://www.kitecom.co.uk/genealog/family.html
>but no regular mail or phone contact information is provided. I have
>attempted twice to email to them via the page and not received an
>answer.
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Frederick E. Smith
>
>Email: fsm...@mhv.net
>
The September issue of the Magazine advises that the appropriate
Subscription agents for those:
living west of and including Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri, Iowa and
Minnesota send subs to Mrs. F. Rand, 1062 North Buhach Road, Merced, CA
95340
living east of that line to Mrs. J. Harvey, 2420 Newport Drive, Lansing,
MI 48906-3541.
The sub for Airmail is $52.75 and for Surface $42.75.
If you want to write to "Head Office", Family Tree Magazine request that
correspondence, other than computer material) be sent to 'Family Tree
Magazine, 61 Great Whyte, Ramsey, Huntingdon, Cambridgeshire PE17 1HL,
England', marking both envelope and letter with the appropriate
department ie. Administartion or Editorial.
The Computer Section Editor, Eric D Probert FSG, is to be found at 62
Sidmouth Road, Chelmsford, Essex CM1 6LS, England.
Hope this helps.
Nigel S. Barker
"Deus robur meum"
<ni...@a6law.demon.co.uk>
"Proud" Preston, Lancs, England
Researching:
ALLSUP-BARHAM-BARKER-BUTLER-CLARKE-HAGGARD-HOPE-IRVINE-LAIDLAW-MOORE-MURRAY-
OLIVER-PATERSON-ROGERS-ROGERSON-SHERINGHAM-TOOTAL-WOODHOUSE
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X-Message: #2
Date: 11 Sep 1997 07:16:20 GMT
From: patch...@aol.com (PATCHELLCJ)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970911071...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Why Swedish Immigration To Illinois?
I've found the same pattern with my Nowegian ancestors, but in Iowa. The
small towns of that time were often nearly homogenous ethnic settlements as
the immigrants clung to one another and to their common culture and
language as an anchor in the mind-numbing vastness of the Great Plains, an
environment radically different from the hemming mountains and narrow
fjords of Norway. Often, the original language of the immigrants would
persist in active day-to-day use for two or three generations after
arrival, further strengthening the communal ties. This was generally true
among any immigrants who settled in concentrated rural communities with
shared language and culture. Assimilation, at least of English usage, in
urban areas tended to be accelerated by the constant contact with the
larger population and the need to develop a command of the lingua franca of
commerce of the new land. By contrast, these rural outposts of
Scandinavian and other European countries could and did perpetuate language
and culture in an undiluted form long after their urban cousins had begun
to melt into the larger mix of the population. It is not uncommon to find
foreign language newspapers published for years after what is generally
considered the apex of European immigration in these towns. Religious
services were often conducted in original languages as well, and their
records maintained in that same language.. For the geneologist, it is
almost mandatory to gain a command of at least the written form of the
native tongue of one's ancestors in order to be able to conduct competent
research on lines that lead to such communities as those under discussion
on this side of the Atlantic.
Besides the cultural glue, the patterns of land development and sales
tended to group ethnicities together as well. Agents for the railroads
would canvass the Continent seeking customers for the enormous grants of
land deeded (should we say swindled) by Congress to the railroads. They
were very successful in attracting immigrants and large groups would embark
on the journey en masse, and would arrive at a common destination en masse,
and naturally stick to the familiar.
Craig J. Patchell
Reasearching :
BOE>MT>ND>MN>IA>NORWAY/PETERSON>MT>SD>MN>IA>NORWAY/PATCHELL>CA>MT>AK>ONT
CAN>?NEW BRUN CAN?>IRELAND/ MADDOX>CA>MT>AK>CO>TX>AK>GA>WALES
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X-Message: #3
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 00:28:51 -0700
From: Michael Frisch <do...@wgn.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34179D...@wgn.net>
Subject: Los Angleles Co Birth Death Marrage Records
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The following is information for the
Registrar Recorder County Clerk Office of Los Angeles Co.
Or they have a NET addie,
http://www.co.la.ca.us/regrec/main.htm
This web site will give you all the information that you will
need to request copys of any records.
They dont mention it, but they do accept phone orders.
Not sure of all the preticulars, but you must fax copys of charge card.
They say its about 35 days from the time they receive the order to the
time you receive the copys.
For people in the area, you can go to the office and view the records of
death and public marriage records. I dont know about birth. (have not
needed this info.)
If you request, I will try and locate other Southern California
Hall of Records.
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X-Message: #4
Date: 10 Sep 1997 16:51:10 GMT
From: jim...@ic.new-ulm.mn.us (Jim Humphrey)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v6j5u$5...@oak.Internet-Connections.net>
Subject: Help: Davis Co., IA _ obit lookup
If anyone can do a obit lookup in Davis County, IA for me...please
email me.
Thanks
Jim - jim...@ic.new-ulm.mn.us
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X-Message: #5
Date: 11 Sep 1997 07:14:37 GMT
From: <free...@jooejeez.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v85ot$9...@priv-sys04-le0.agt.net>
Subject: -= FREE live adult phone chat =-
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X-Message: #6
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 03:59:04 GMT
From: anpi...@igrin.co.nz (Anne Picketts)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v7ts6$n...@nova.igrin.co.nz>
Subject: Re: finding surnames online
geneal...@hotmail.com wrote:
>Make more progress in tracing your family tree by discovering
>surnames right now online. You will find at my homepage:
> http:/members.tripod.com/~surnames
No DNS entry!!
Waipu, NZ; phone/fax 64 9 432-0045 or 432-0225
Opus North Whangarei 3:772/270.1
Researching: WILSON/ST JOHN/DUGGAN/RYAN/LEPPER
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X-Message: #7
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 09:09:22 GMT
From: Eric...@net.HCC.nl (Eric Augusteijn)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3417b40...@news4.inter.nl.net>
Subject: Latest version of FTW?
What is the latest version of FTW?
The software shop only sells 3.0.
What would I miss if I should buy 3.0?
Eric
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X-Message: #8
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 06:32:38 LOCAL
From: jswi...@borg.com (John S. Wilkinson)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <jswilkin.3...@borg.com>
Subject: Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFinder (was Broderbund and RootsWeb)
OK, where can I access the Internet Family Finder
In article <5v7i0i$klt$1...@ha2.rdc1.sfba.home.com> paul_bu...@broder.com
(Paul Burchfield) writes:>From: paul_bu...@broder.com (Paul Burchfield)
>Subject: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFinder (was Broderbund and RootsWeb)
>Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 01:35:08 GMT
>I'm posting this on behalf of Eric Holstege who is the Vice President of
>Online Business for the Banner Blue division of Broderbund Software.
>Sincerely,
>Paul Burchfield
>Broderbund Software,
>Banner Blue division
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X-Message: #9
Date: 11 Sep 1997 03:53:38 -0700
From: den...@gte.net (Dennis and Cathy Phillips)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34191D...@gte.net>
Subject: Genealogy List???
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Hi to all,
Are we suppose to be getting this kind of stuff on this list. Is this a
Genealogy list or a Sex list???
Cathy in Oregon
Subject:
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Date:
11 Sep 1997 07:14:37 GMT
From:
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Organization:
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To:
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>
> Free live adult phone chat - 24 hours a day. Talk to men and women
> from all over the country at any time. Live chat, personal private chat,
> group chat, and even a dateline! Anything goes!
>
> 1-664-410-2598
> 24 hours, over 1000 phone lines, NO CREDIT CARD REQUIRED
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X-Message: #10
Date: 11 Sep 1997 11:09:08 GMT
From: locke...@aol.com (LOCKEroots)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970911110...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFinder (was Broderbund and RootsWeb)
> Eric Holstege
Keep up the good work ! I think the Internet finder is a great idea !
The whole point of having a Web site for our Families History is to SHARE ,
and what better way to find the info we need then a search engine to point
us in the right direction .
With out the tools of FTM , I would be years behind on my tree . And
thanks to FTM CD's and FTM online , I have been contacted by several
Cousins wanting to share our Family History . One of my new found cousins
is my Great Grand Mother's Brother's son . And he only lives about a 40
minute drive from me ! Guess how I found him ! ? FTM Online !!!
Donald Locke
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X-Message: #11
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 04:45:38 GMT
From: chr...@best.com (Chris Cook)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v7suf$pu0$1...@nntp2.ba.best.com>
Subject: Bitchenor - Anything anyone?
Originally Flemish lace makers who settled in Northampton and
Birmingham areas of UK. Any suggestions to chr...@best.com please
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X-Message: #12
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 04:54:27 GMT
From: chr...@best.com (Chris Cook)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v7tf0$pu0$2...@nntp2.ba.best.com>
Subject: Bitchenor - Anything, anyone?
My wife's family - originally Flemish lace makers who settled in the
Northamptonshire and Birmingham areas of the UK. Any suggestions
please to chr...@best.com
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X-Message: #13
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 06:10:11 -0700
From: Charlotte Maness <CMa...@Lescom.org>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3417ED...@Lescom.org>
Subject: ROOTS-L SIGNOFF!
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Will someone please e-mail me the "WELCOME Pages" for ROOTS-L, I need to
signoff for a while and can't find my own copy.
Thanks so much.
Charlotte
CMa...@Lescom.org
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X-Message: #14
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 08:14:51 -0400
From: "Gregory L. Bender" <glbe...@erols.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3417E0...@erols.com>
Subject: Re: "Dode" = Dorothy????
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LL DeMerle wrote:
>
> In my family, a Dorothy is called Dodi.
My wife Lois refers to her twin sister Doris as "Dody"
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X-Message: #15
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 08:26:45 -0400
From: Tim Conrad <tco...@lucent.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: German sons naming customs?
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Ron:
I've heard this come up from time to time, but no, I can't find
any evidance of this among the German's in PA to the point
of being able to predict parents based on any such pattern. I've
looked for these supposed patterns, then looked at many families
in different churches where the families are well documented and
found no patterns at all. Certainly chance would have it that
with a limited number of names in vogue, the parents' names show
up. And perhaps some families or small groups used a practice like
this (I've heard it more in reference to English families but
even there I haven't seen it in my research).
There are other practices that are useful like the Johan prefix name,
etc.
BTW, I'm related to the Knisely/etc family of Lancaster Co in the
early 1700's. You??
Tim
Ron Bauerle wrote:
>
> Somebody on the KNISLEY mailing list referred to "The German naming
> custom of naming the first two boys after their Grandfathers."
>
> Is there anything to this? I don't remember seeing any such pattern
> in my own German ancestors, but will take another look...
>
> RDB
--
***************************************************************
* Tim Conrad tco...@lucent.com *
* Lucent - Bell Laboratories al...@aluxpo.micro.lucent.com *
* Allentown, PA *
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X-Message: #16
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 06:45:16 -0700
From: "John L. German" <ger...@jarman.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3417F5...@jarman.net>
Subject: JARMAN
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Researchers interested in Southern branches of the JARMAN family (and
variant spellings) are invited to visit the homepage for
Jarman Genealogy & Family History - http://www.inct.net/~german/
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X-Message: #17
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 09:12:12 -0400
From: Alexis Kinney Carrington <alex...@tnp.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3417EE2C...@tnp.com>
Subject: Re: St. John's Cemetery, NY
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Nancy J Watson wrote:
> Does anyone know of the address for St. John's Cemetery in Kings County,
> NY? I have a civil war ancestor buried their and want to find his
> exact date of birth and if the cemetery has any info about his parents
> on file.
>
> thanks,
>
> Nancy Watson
Hi Nancy and all,
I am the coordinator of the NYC GenWeb site, and am im the process of updating the site. (We just added a new twig to the family tree a few weeks
ago, th site took 2nd place, sorry) In any case on the site currently is a lisint of all the cemeteries in the New York City area.
Point your browsers to http://www.tnp.com/nycgenweb about 2/3rd down the page is a link to the cemeteries page.
Good Luck, I have always had temendous sucess with cemeteries. By the way, did you know that if you have an ancestor who fought for the United States
in any war, and whose grave does not have a head stone, that the Dept of Veterans Affairs will (after filing the proper paperwork), give you one?
If anyone is interested, I'll try and find the web address, you can download the forms from there.
--
Alexis Kinney Carrington <mailto:alex...@tnp.com>
Genealogist "If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it dance." -- G.B. Shaw
http://www.tnp.com/nycgenweb
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X-Message: #18
Date: 11 Sep 1997 13:16:32 GMT
From: "Dermot O'Brien" <joint-...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v8qvg$p...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Most Numerous Irish American Surnames
Hello All
I am new to this list and I would be very grateful if anyone could tell me
where to find
a comprehensive list of the most numerous Irish-American surnames/last
names?
Thanks for your help.
Dermot O'Brien
joint-...@worldnet.att.net
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X-Message: #19
Date: 11 Sep 1997 13:39:32 GMT
From: locke...@aol.com (LOCKEroots)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970911133...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Latest version of FTW?
Eric , Version 4.0 is out now ,
http://www.familytreemaker.com
for more info
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X-Message: #20
Date: 11 Sep 1997 13:49:01 GMT
From: bayo...@aol.com (BAYOU JAC)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970911134...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Diana WebSite
http://members.aol.com/dearbornes/princess.html
This is a wonderful page in Memory of Diana, Princess of Wales.
BayouJac
Genealogy. It's the only way to dig...relatively speaking!!!
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X-Message: #21
Date: 11 Sep 1997 13:48:59 GMT
From: bayo...@aol.com (BAYOU JAC)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970911134...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: NEW! LOUISIANA GENEALOGY WEBRING!!!
There has been a WebRing created for Louisiana genealogists! Join the
Ring! It's fast, fun and best of all, FREE!!
http://members.aol.com/CenLaRoots/WebRing.html
BayouJac
Genealogy. It's the only way to dig...relatively speaking!!!
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X-Message: #22
Date: 11 Sep 1997 14:04:39 GMT
From: "Harold" <hco...@globalnet.co.uk>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbebb$ba8e9700$56547ec2@harold>
Subject: Mitchell / UK
Calling all with the family name Mitchell or an interest in genealogy.
On behalf of a friend i am trying to trace her roots to a Thomas Mitchell
born in England or at least the UK. He went to the States in the early
1700's and bought a 1000 acres in Virginia.
If anyone around can help would be most grateful for genuine replies
preferably with details of where documentary evidence can be found as
support, or even better scans of the same.
Can't pay for this help though, so please do not answer to
unless you are doing so out of the goodness of your heart.
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X-Message: #23
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:20:52 +0000
From: "Randrup, Peter & Eleanor" <hard...@erols.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3417FE...@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Laptop's in research:Mac
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Likewise, using a Mac Performa 6300 at home, what might someone
recommend using in the archives while traveling?
Pete
John wrote:
>
> A few have mmentioned palmtops, especially the Psion. Can someone give
> me some information on its capabilities. I would be interested in
> record keeping, word processing but ultimately I would need to
> transfer information back to my desktop (IBM PC using Win95 and TMG
> genealogy software, as well as Office).
>
> Your thoughts would be appreciated.
> John
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X-Message: #24
Date: 11 Sep 1997 15:48:50 GMT
From: maria...@aol.com (MarianB527)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970911154...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Royal Genealogy
Like everyone else, my children and I have been discussing British
Royalty. Can someone explain why some/all kings wives are call "Queen"
but Queen Elizabeth's husband is Prince Phillip? Thanks
Marian
Dallas, TX
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X-Message: #25
Date: 11 Sep 1997 16:18:00 GMT
From: "Christopher Cook" <chr...@best.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbece$80a26cc0$da51...@chrisv.vip.best.com>
Subject: Bitchenor - Anything anyone?
Originally Flemish lace makers who settled in the Northampton and
Birmingham areas of England. Any suggestions please to chr...@best.com
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X-Message: #26
Date: 11 Sep 1997 09:34:35 -0700
From: tra...@pacbell.net (Beverlee Broadlick)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34181D...@pacbell.net>
Subject: Saulsbury
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researching Saulsbury in KS but would appreciate hearing from anyone
that has seen the name. Beverlee E. Broadlick
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X-Message: #27
Date: 11 Sep 1997 09:38:24 -0700
From: tra...@pacbell.net (Beverlee Broadlick)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Harman/Harmon
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researching Harman/Harmon PA OH but appreciate info any Harman/Harmon.
Beverlee E. Broadlick
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X-Message: #28
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 12:38:09 -0400
From: Chris <chris...@ecsu.campus.mci.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34181E71...@ecsu.campus.mci.net>
Subject: Obituary Lookup - Brooklyn, Kings County
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Is there someone who could do an Obituary lookup for me? It is on
Josephin Wilkenshoff, died April 1965, Brooklyn NY, Kings County.
Will reciprocate same in N.E. North Carolina
Thank You
Chris Wilkenshoff
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X-Message: #29
Date: 11 Sep 1997 09:40:54 -0700
From: tra...@pacbell.net (Beverlee Broadlick)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34181E...@pacbell.net>
Subject: Daniels
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researching Daniels NY PA OH MI but would appreciate info on any Daniels
Beverlee E. Broadlick
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X-Message: #30
Date: 11 Sep 1997 16:45:01 GMT
From: camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v976d$s...@bl-4.rootsweb.com>
Subject: SIMS; ENG > VA,USA; 1485-1785
SIMS; ENG > VA,USA; 1485-1785
I have Joanna SIMS, b. 24 Mar 1761, Albermarle, Va.; d. Rutherford Co.,
N.C.; m. 4 Mar 1785 James OWNBY. An undocumented ancestry provided me has
certain apparent flaws en route back to a William SIMS/SYMMES, b. ca.
1485...his son John b. 1515, Barwick, Somerset, England...etc. The Somerset
line is unclear, as is the American immigrant ancestor.
Joanna's parents appear to be Capt. William SIMS, b. 25 Feb 1732, Va., and
Annister STEP, b. 1732. Capt. Wm. Sims allegedly was a son of Richard Sams,
b. ca. 1701, Isle of Wight Co., Va.
Does anyone have this Sims/Symmes/Symes line? If the Capt. Wm. Sims
generation is accurate, it alone opens into the lines of STEP/STAPP, DENIS,
COFFEY, MOSS, POWELL, WALES, GORSUCH, LOVELACE and others which also have
been provided me (also without documentation). Other lines become readily
available if additional generations of the proposed Sims ancestry can be
verified.
Thanks for your attention,
Tom Camfield - camf...@olympus.net
538 Calhoun St., Port Townsend WA 98368
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X-Message: #31
Date: 11 Sep 1997 16:46:54 GMT
From: sher...@azure.engin.umich.edu (Jerret Michael Sherenco)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v979u$a...@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Subject: Genealogical Relationship terms
Could someone explain the classification schemes for genealogical relationships? Everyone
understands the easy ones: mother, father, brother, aunt, uncle, etc. However, I'm trying
to figure out what the difference beween third cousin and third cousin once removed!
I've created a family tree program, and I want to be able to click on two names and have
their relationship to each other displayed, no matter how distant. I guess I just need
the basic "algorithm" or scheme that is used. Thanks!
--Jerret Sherenco
sher...@umich.edu
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X-Message: #32
Date: 11 Sep 1997 16:53:10 GMT
From: cher...@aol.com (ChersFmly)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970911165...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFinder (was Broderbund and RootsWeb)
jswi...@borg.com (John S. Wilkinson) writes:
>OK, where can I access the Internet Family Finder
http://www.familytreemaker.com/ifftop.html
Cherie Clark cher...@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/chersfmly
There's only one thing worse than being talked about...that's not
being talked about
~~~Oscar Wilde~~~
Fight Spam! http://www.cauce.org
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X-Message: #33
Date: 11 Sep 1997 16:55:21 GMT
From: camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v97pp$t...@bl-4.rootsweb.com>
Subject: LEWIS; GA,USA > NC,USA; 1750-1870
LEWIS; GA,USA > NC,USA; 1750-1870
I have a likely LEWIS line that begins with a William Lewis, b. ca.
1740-50. His son was Brittain Lewis, found in Buncombe Co., N.C., in 1820.
Brittain had a son Matthew, born in Georgia in 1798.
This Matthew is believed to be the sam Matthew Lewis found in Buncombe Co.
in 1830 and '40, in Yancey Co., N.C., in 1850, '60 and '70. Matthew's
children included at least two unidentified daughters--one of whom is
thought to have been the Sarah LEWIS (b. 1826 Buncombe Co., whose father
Matthew was from Augusta, Ga.) who m. in 1848 Stephen M. HONEYCUTT of
Yancey Co.
Any verification/documentation would be greatly appreciated. Wm. Lewis,
father of Brittain Lewis, is said to have m. a BRITTAIN. Her identification
and clues to her ancestry would be especially welcome.
Thanks for your attention,
Tom Camfield - camf...@olympus.net
538 Calhoun St., Port Townsend WA 98368
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X-Message: #34
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 09:56:30 -0700
From: "Geoff Cadogan" <us...@msn.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc51d$13c17420$5a55...@COMP42.crestinfo>
Subject: Re: Software... again!?
I use Parsons Technology's Family Origins
I believe it is available in WIN95, win3.11 and mac
versions.
To see all that Family Origins 6.0 has to offer, you'll want to place your
order today -- for just $19 (plus $5 shipping) - by visiting our
website:
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Ordering online is fast, fun and - above all - SAFE! THAT'S BECAUSE WE
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*Calling 1 (800) 973-5111;
*Sending a fax to 1 (319) 395-7449;
*Mailing your order to Parsons Technology / 1700 Progress Dr. / P.O. Box
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Remember, if you're not satisfied with any aspect of your shipment,
simply return your software within 30 days of receipt for a complete
refund (excluding shipping). Simply call 1-800-973-5111!
PegVA <pe...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970907233...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
>
> Sorry for typos.
> Here we go again...
> I know this has been asked countless times, however...
> What is your favorite Genealogy Program? Briefly, why do you like it?
> Peg Seay Enroughty
> pe...@aol.com
>
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 77
Today's Topics:
#1 Re: 1949 NYC Death Cert -- precise [Cyndy Bates <"cybates "@tiac.net>]
#2 DUTCHER/HUNT Chenango,NY [Megan Scott <msc...@home.com>]
#3 JACKSON, Jacob; NY,USA:1825 ["Ron Jackson" <jack...@ix.netcom.]
#4 $$$No Shit Fast cash$$$ [jmg <vend...@us.ibm.com>]
#5 www.ieway.com/business/gifts [The Shadow <nob...@nowhere.com>]
#6 Home children; war babies; young i ["Sandi Scott" <jowett@lindsaycomp.]
#7 Obit lookup - Niagara Falls area [nstn...@fox.nstn.ca (Chuck)]
#8 Circle-of-Events Thurs 11 Sep [Patricia Tidmarsh <ptidmars@shiva.]
#9 Civil war soldier help needed [lab...@labels.com]
#10 Re: Civil war soldier help needed [John Gross <confederate@worldnet.a]
#11 Need ONE 1910 Indiana Soundex Look [fs...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jim W]
#12 Re: Royal Genealogy [Peter_Kri...@online.pol.dk (]
#13 Re: reunion genealogy program [bw...@altamaha.net (Bill Williams)]
#14 Swafford surname search ["Roger Swafford" <gi...@wcic.com>]
#15 TYLER book [Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.ne]
#16 WELSHMEIER book [Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.ne]
#17 Re: Genealogical Relationship term [nm...@ix.netcom.com (Silver Bullet)]
#18 ROBBINS/LYMAN book [Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.ne]
#19 BYRD, Susan; Yancey Co., NC,USA; [camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield]
#20 Re: Genealogical Relationship term [lre...@mover.it.uswc.uswest.com (]
#21 SMITH, Samuel book [Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.ne]
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X-Message: #1
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 13:04:09 -0400
From: Cyndy Bates <"cybates "@tiac.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v98a0$ro6$2...@tabloid.med.iacnet.com>
Subject: Re: 1949 NYC Death Cert -- precise answer needed
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Brian Wickham wrote:
> I got my grandfather's death certificate from Dec 1949. I would
> suggest you spell out your relationship to the decedant on the form.
> Avoid the word 'genealogy'. Use something like 'establish parentage'.
This is THE thing you have to do with NYC. Although New York State will
allow "genealogy" as a reason for the request, NYC will not,
particularly for recent record. I usually use something like 'to prove
parentage for legal matter'
I've never had to include documentation of my relationship. And they do
send a photocopy of the certificate, complete with raised seal.
cb
--
To reply replace at with @ and remove x from xtiac.net.
Researching Bates, Blizniak/Bliznik, Breckenridge, Finnie,
Fox, Hinsdill, Howard, Immen/von Immen, Kelsey, Laughley,
Lee, Milen/Milon, Moore, Singewald, Waters, Williams, Wolfe.
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X-Message: #2
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 12:49:07 -0400
From: Megan Scott <msc...@home.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: DUTCHER/HUNT Chenango,NY
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If R.S. YOUNGS is out there, please contact me.
If anyone knows RS YOUNGS please provide me with a current e-mail
address.
I want to reply to a message posted in July, 1995
Thank you. Meg msc...@home.com
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X-Message: #3
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 12:11:27 -0500
From: "Ron Jackson" <jack...@ix.netcom.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v98j4$i...@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>
Subject: JACKSON, Jacob; NY,USA:1825
Hi,
Does anyone have any information on Jacob Jackson b. abt 1825 in NY.
Married Sara ???, b. abt 1829 NY.
I would like to know who there parents were and where they lived when
married.
Thanks,
Ron Jackson
http://www.ronjackson.com/genealogy/
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X-Message: #4
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 12:05:36 -0400
From: jmg <vend...@us.ibm.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: $$$No Shit Fast cash$$$
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X-Message: #5
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 10:37:59 GMT
From: The Shadow <nob...@nowhere.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <9b7cd$a253b.68@NEWS>
Subject: www.ieway.com/business/gifts
Check out this web site www.ieway.com/business/gifts
I bought one of these Special Events Calendars & they
are great for keeping track of those birthdays, anniversaries
and other special dates & events happening in your life.
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X-Message: #6
Date: 11 Sep 1997 17:41:12 GMT
From: "Sandi Scott" <jow...@lindsaycomp.on.ca>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbed9$d6ad6600$672cacce@jowett>
Subject: Home children; war babies; young immigrant
For those searching for information on:
Home Children
War Babies
Young Immigrants
Adoption search and support groups include all of the above. The sites I am
sending are non-profit, volunteer search groups. They will not do your
search for you. But, they will assist in your search. Many of these
"children" are now searching for their families in UK and are members of
Parent Finders.
Parent Finders is a non-profit, volunteer, search, support and lobby group
across Canada working to reunite families.
ASH
http://www.login.net/inverc/ireunion.htm
http://www.login.net/inverc/search.htm
PARENT FINDERS CANADA
http://www.portal.ca/~reunion/
http://www.portal.ca/~adoption/Resources/Canadian.htm
http://www.portal.ca/~adoption/Document/CdnFAQ.htm
PF NOVA SCOTIA http://www.peinet.pe.ca/finder/
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/bhartlen/home.html
PF MONTREAL http://www.login.net/inverc/search.htm
http://members.aol.com/danc22/private/villejoie.htm
PF OTTAWA http://members.aol.com/pfncr/index.html
http://www.helping.com/family/ad/aco.html
GROUPS http://www.golden.net/~gail/index.html
http://psy.ucsd.edu/%7Ejhartung/bc.adoption.act.txt
http://psy.ucsd.edu/%7Ejhartung/89CRIGHT.TXT
PF BARRIE http://www.bconnex.net/~rickm/
BARNARDO http://www.botree.co.uk/quarriers/william/index.htm
http://www.canadainfo.com QUARRIER HOME SITE
http://www.liv.ac.uk/~archives/inf14.html BERNARDOS #2
http://www.dcs.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/homeadd.html YOUNG
IMMIGRANTS TO CANADA HOME PAGE
CANADOPT (volunteer Canadian search/support group on internet)
http://nebula.on.ca/canadopt/ http://nebula.on.ca/canadopt/kindred/
SEARCH sites
http://www.oz.net/~cyndihow/canada.htm
http://www.oz.net/~cyndihow/sites.htm http://canada411.sympatico.ca/
http://www.contractjobs.com/tel/
http://stauffer.queensu.ca/docsunit/searchc71.html
http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/search.html http://www.adoption.org/
http://www.access.digex.net/~vqi/BirthQuest/canada.htm
SHEA_GRIMES rights and open records
http://www.alt.net/~waltj/shea/series.html
http://www.plumsite.com/shea/series.html
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X-Message: #7
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:46:09 GMT
From: nstn...@fox.nstn.ca (Chuck)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34182dfa...@news.istar.ca>
Subject: Obit lookup - Niagara Falls area
I am looking for an obit file from 1946 in the Niagara Falls area
(either Canada or United States, It is for a Joh (Jack) PICOT (married
to Elizabeth Theriault).
Any assistance appreciated.
Thanks!
C. Picot
MONTREAL
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X-Message: #8
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:05:50 -0400
From: Patricia Tidmarsh <ptid...@shiva.Hunter.CUNY.EDU>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.97091...@shiva.hunter.cuny.edu>
Subject: Circle-of-Events Thurs 11 Sep
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IRC Genealogy Circle-of-Events
Thu 11 Sept #genealogy-help Guest Host xfhx-director discussing family
history 8pm cst Dalnet: irc.dal.net
Sun 14 Sept #USmilitary Betsy Douglas Civil War Genealogy 3pm EST iigs
Server: irc.iigs.org
For help in accessin IRC ask your provider and/or see
http://www.irchelp.org
and for AOL see
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/saint/aolhelp.htm AOL now has its own
server for IRC
access.
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X-Message: #9
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:09:03 -0400
From: lab...@labels.com
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341833...@labels.com>
Subject: Civil war soldier help needed
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Hello,
Are there any pages on the web where I may search civil war
information? I am searching for the regiment, etc. that my ancestor,
James Clement Sharman served in. He would have served in Alabama.
Thanks for any info.
Leah
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X-Message: #10
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:30:44 -0400
From: John Gross <confe...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v9d50$f...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Civil war soldier help needed
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lab...@labels.com wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Are there any pages on the web where I may search civil war
> information? I am searching for the regiment, etc. that my ancestor,
> James Clement Sharman served in. He would have served in Alabama.
>
There was a J.C. Sharman in the Company "F" of the 14th Alabama Infantry
Regiment. This unit consisted of men mostly from the cities of
Montgomery and Auburn, and the counties of Chambers, Jackson, Randolph,
and Tallapoosa.
John Gross
confe...@worldnet.att.net
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X-Message: #11
Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:31:24 GMT
From: fs...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jim Walton)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v9ddt$2...@alexander.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Subject: Need ONE 1910 Indiana Soundex Look-up
If someone has access to the 1910 Indiana Soundex (Miracode)
& would be willing to look up one listing for me, please
contact me by e/m & I will give all particulars. TIA,
Jim
--
Jim Walton
2696 Edgehill Rd.
Cleveland Heights, Ohio 44106
fs...@cleveland.freenet.edu
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X-Message: #12
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 20:26:38 +0200
From: Peter_Kri...@online.pol.dk (Peter Kristiansen1)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <msg148539.thr-...@online.pol.dk>
Subject: Re: Royal Genealogy
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If the man is the ruler, he is called the King and his wife the Queen.
The widow after a king will normally keep her title as Queen.
If the woman is the ruler, she is called the Queen, and her husband
can't be the King, but is called prince or prince-consort.
Female rulers are not very common, since most countries don't have
female succession. You'll find very few female rulers in the german
princely and royal-families, only, as far as I remember, in Denmark,
Sweden, The Netherlands, Great Britain, Luxembourg, Russia and Spain
you'll find them.
Peter Kristiansen
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X-Message: #13
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:25:42 -0400
From: bw...@altamaha.net (Bill Williams)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <1997091114...@max1-34.altamaha.net>
Subject: Re: reunion genealogy program
Gene Campbell <drk...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I am looking for a copy of Reunion or the demo, all my genealogy data
> is stuck in a copy that got hosed during a recent system crash.
> Please, Please help. I need to extract that data.
Try <www.download.com> -- I'm sure they have the v.4 demo for Mac; I
wasn't looking on the dark side, but you never can tell...
--
Selah!
BWms
bw...@altamaha.net
bill_w...@atlmug.org
-= I almost had a psychic girlfriend, but she left me before we met =-
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X-Message: #14
Date: 11 Sep 97 18:38:54 GMT
From: "Roger Swafford" <gi...@wcic.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbee1$81460520$03a5...@gizmowcic.org>
Subject: Swafford surname search
Would like to contact anyone else researching the Swafford family of TN and
AL. I'm trying to work backward from my g-grandfather Thomas H. Swafford
1866-1943 who married Lula Vaughn 1881-1959.
Only lead I have is that he was the son of a James Swafford 1837-1904 and
married to Elizabeth (unk) 1837-1907
Thanks
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X-Message: #15
Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:42:25 GMT
From: Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v9e2h$7...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>
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I have found a used book entitled "Autobiography of William Seymour Tyler, D.D,LL.D", published in 1912. Includes a genealogy of his ancestors.
W.S. b 2Sep1810, d 19Nov 1897. Wife: Amelia Ogden WHITING.
Related families:THACHER, SEYMOUR, WHITING, EDWARDS.
Genealogy Charts & Index, also index of towns, 323 pages.
$45 ppd US & Can (WA residents add 8.1% sales tax)
If you are interested in the book, please e-mail me.
Diane
da...@worldnet.att.net
RBR...@prodigy.com
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X-Message: #16
Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:42:00 GMT
From: Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v9e1o$7...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: WELSHMEIER book
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"A History of the Welsheimer Family" by Edith L. Welsheimer published in 1969.
Chapters: Johannes Philip Weltzheimer; Philip Weltzheimer,Stocking Weaver; Frederick Weltzheimer; Henry Welshimer; John Welshimer; Philip Welshimer; Daniel Welshimer; William Welshimer; Rebecca Welshimer; Otho Welshymer; Frederick Weltzheimer of Shepherdstown
Indexed, Photos
$18.00 ppd US & Can
If you are interested in the book, please e-mail me.
Diane
da...@worldnet.att.net
RBR...@prodigy.com
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X-Message: #17
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 18:34:34 GMT
From: nm...@ix.netcom.com (Silver Bullet)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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In the recent past, Jerret Michael Sherenco wrote:
>
>Could someone explain the classification schemes for genealogical relationships? Everyone
>understands the easy ones: mother, father, brother, aunt, uncle, etc. However, I'm trying
>to figure out what the difference beween third cousin
With third cousins, both parties are four generations down from the
nearest common ancestor couple.
> and third cousin once removed!
One party is four generations down from the nearest common ancestor
couple and the other party is five generations down.
>I've created a family tree program, and I want to be able to click on two names and have
>their relationship to each other displayed, no matter how distant. I guess I just need
>the basic "algorithm" or scheme that is used. Thanks!
>
See here for more:
http://members.aol.com/ntgen/otherstuff/rspkg.html
Norris Taylor
EMail: Norris Taylor <nm...@ix.netcom.com>
Main Ancestral Lines:
Beaty, Earhart, Feather, Johnston, Millirons,Taylor, Vatter
"Most Wanted" Lines to connect with:
McCart, McBride, Snodgrass, Toland, Robison,
Small, Bristow, White, Donalson
Genealogy Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html
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Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:45:33 GMT
From: Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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I have found a used book entitled ''Recollections of My Mother-Mrs. Jean LYMAN of Northampton", by Susan I. Lesley, published in 1866.
Maiden name: Anne Jean ROBBINS, dau of Hon. Edward Hutchinson Robbins & Elizabeth MURRAY, b Milton Mass 3Jul1789.
Index, 498 pgs
$40 ppd US & CAN (WA residents add 8.1% sales tax)
If you are interested in the book, please e-mail me.
Diane
da...@worldnet.att.net
RBR...@prodigy.com
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X-Message: #19
Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:43:55 GMT
From: camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: BYRD, Susan; Yancey Co., NC,USA; 1795-1845
BYRD, Susan; Yancey Co., NC,USA; 1795-1845
Susan(nah) BYRD, possibly the daughter of Sam and Polly (Mary) Byrd, was
probably b. ca. 1792-95, m. ca. 1811 Jacob HONEYCUTT of Yancey Co., N.C.
(Susan d. some time before 1850, when her husband is found in Tennessee
with another wife.)
It is information on Susan's ancestry that is being sought. Family legend
gives a Cherokee Indian connection to her ancestry (and whether or not this
has to do with the Bird Clan of the Cherokee, I do not know).
Thanks for your attention,
Tom Camfield - camf...@olympus.net
538 Calhoun St., Port Townsend WA 98368
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Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:39:23 GMT
From: lre...@mover.it.uswc.uswest.com (Lori Retzer)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v9dsr$c...@aeon.ecte.uswc.uswest.com>
Subject: Re: Genealogical Relationship terms
In article <5v979u$a...@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>,
Jerret Michael Sherenco <sher...@azure.engin.umich.edu> wrote:
>Could someone explain the classification schemes for genealogical relationships? Everyone
>understands the easy ones: mother, father, brother, aunt, uncle, etc. However, I'm trying
>to figure out what the difference beween third cousin and third cousin once removed!
>I've created a family tree program, and I want to be able to click on two names and have
>their relationship to each other displayed, no matter how distant. I guess I just need
>the basic "algorithm" or scheme that is used. Thanks!
>
There are two great web pages (that I'm aware of!) that explain this.
Try http://ic.net/~goroke/relation.htm or http://www.janyce.com/gene/cousins.html.
Hope this helps.
Lori
ljre...@denver.infi.net
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U S WEST Technologies Phone: (303) 965-0921
1005 17th Rm. 1470 Pager: (303) 821-0027
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Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:44:16 GMT
From: Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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I have found a used book entitled "Lt. Samuel Smith, His Children & One Line of Descendants & Related Families" compiled by James William Hook, published in 1953. Samuel was born in England ca. 1601. He died in So. Hadley Mass in 1686.
Smith Families: Benjamin, Chileab, Chileab Jr., Elizabeth, Israel, John. Levi,Philip, Phineas, William.
Related families: BARTON, CHANDLER, HAUNTON, HAYES, HOOK, MORTON, STEBBINS, BARDWELL, BECHTEL, DICKINSON, EILER, WARRINER, ARNOLD, & many more.
Index, genealogical charts, 377 pgs.
$15.00ppd US & Can (WA residents add 8.1% sales tax)
If you are interested in the book, please e-mail me.
Diane
da...@worldnet.att.net
RBR...@prodigy.com
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 78
Today's Topics:
#1 THOMAS book [Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.ne]
#2 WEAVER, KIEHL, POOLE book [Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.ne]
#3 STANTON book [Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.ne]
#4 SHELDON BOOK [Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.ne]
#5 SCHOFF book [Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.ne]
#6 LOMEN,BRANDT, JOY book [Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.ne]
#7 BRADY book [Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.ne]
#8 DORR book [Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.ne]
#9 GRIER book [Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.ne]
#10 CANNING book [Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.ne]
#11 JENNINGS book [Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.ne]
#12 PRAETORIOUS book [Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.ne]
#13 GAILEY-KELLY book [Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.ne]
#14 FISHER book [Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.ne]
#15 GRAY book [Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.ne]
#16 HIGGINSON book [Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.ne]
#17 Re: Royal Genealogy [PRA...@prodigy.com (Mr. Fred J. L]
#18 Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFi [ca...@freenet.carleton.ca (Gordon ]
#19 Thalman [lady...@aol.com (Ladyhvac)]
#20 What county is Springfield, Illino [lady...@aol.com (Ladyhvac)]
#21 Markings on headstones [lady...@aol.com (Ladyhvac)]
#22 Re: The Royal Links [PRA...@prodigy.com (Mr. Fred J. L]
#23 Royal Genealogy [PRA...@prodigy.com (Mr. Fred J. L]
#24 Re: Royal Genealogy [Gary Forbis <for...@accessone.com>]
#25 30th Inf. Div, WWII ["H. Dowda" <hdo...@scsn.net>]
#26 Re: Civil war soldier help needed [Christer Hamre <christer.hamre@mbo]
#27 Re: 30th Inf. Div, WWII [James A Honeychuck <jimhoney@world]
#28 New to group!! [Ke...@ids.net (Kevin)]
#29 KEIGWIN; CT,USA; 1642-1736 [daka...@thegrid.net (David Kaiser]
#30 Re: Broderbund and Rootsweb Is thi [paul_bu...@broder.com (Paul B]
#31 Re: Latest version of FTW? [paul_bu...@broder.com (Paul B]
#32 Re: Markings on headstones [Jon Boehm <jb...@bright.net>]
#33 Van Buskirk genealogy [cea...@aol.com (CEarls)]
#34 Fields genealogy [cea...@aol.com (CEarls)]
#35 Re: Where to write in Illinois? [FLOSS...@aol.com]
#36 Genealogy & IRC [ro...@mail.mnsi.net (Rob McLean)]
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Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:43:18 GMT
From: Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.net>
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"Elijah Was A Valiant Man- Annals of the Thomas Family of Pinedale 1876-1967" by Arvin Palmer, Ph.D., published in 1981.
Elijah Thomas Jr was the son of Elijah & Emily (Hampton). Elijah, Jr married Mary Ann Petersen Thomas & they settled in Pinedale, AZ.
Photos, Bibliography, Index.
$23.50 ppd US & Can (WA residents add 8.1% sales tax)
If you are interested in the book, please e-mail me.
Diane
da...@worldnet.att.net
RBR...@prodigy.com
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X-Message: #2
Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:42:56 GMT
From: Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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I have found a used book entitled ''WEAVER, KIEHL, POOL, BIERER-MULLER Families", by Samuel P. Weaver,Litt. D., LL.D. published in 1953.
WEAVER-Generation 1 John Peter Weber b 1735 Wurttemberg, emigrated abt 1754.
KEIHL-Hans Jerg Kiehl b 15 Apr 1701 in Middersheim. Salome Sarah Kiehl b Hempfield PA 1819 m Jacob peter Weaver.
POOL-Jonas, Jacob, ZACHARIAH POOLE
BIERER-Eliza POOL m John M Bierer 1828
No index, pictures, 117 pages.
$35 ppd US & Can. (WA residents add 8.1% sales tax)
If you are interested in the book, please e-mail me.
Diane
da...@worldnet.att.net
RBR...@prodigy.com
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Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:43:44 GMT
From: Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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I have found a used book entitled ''Random Recollections", by Henry STANTON, published in 1887.
Born 27Jun1805 Preston, county of New London, Conn.
Father: Joseph Stanton b Washington Co RI
Mother: Susan BREWSTER, born in Preston. Her father: Simon BREWSTER
Index, 298pgs
$20 ppd US & CAN (WA residents add 8.1% sales tax)
If you are interested in the book, please e-mail me.
Diane
da...@worldnet.att.net
RBR...@prodigy.com
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Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:44:37 GMT
From: Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: SHELDON BOOK
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I have found a used book entitled "Life of Asa G Sheldon: Wilmington Farmer", by him published in 1959..
Born 24Oct1788 in Lynnfield Mass.
Father: Jeremiah Sheldon, son of Skelton Sheldon, son of Godfrey Sheldon.
Mother: Elizabeth GOODELL
Their children: Elbridge, Lucinda, Samuel, Asa, Harriet, Betsey, Jeremiah, Sophia
Asa married Clarissa EAMES.
$15 ppd US & CAN (WA residents add 8.1% sales tax)
If you are interested in the book, please e-mail me.
Diane
da...@worldnet.att.net
RBR...@prodigy.com
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X-Message: #5
Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:45:01 GMT
From: Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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"Schoff Family History: A Memorial of the 100th Anniversary of the Marriage of Philip Schoff & Elizabeth RAMSEY April 10, 1794" by their granddaughter Eloise Walker Wilder published in 1922 Greenfield, Indiana William Mitchell Printing Co.
Children: Eliza b 1795 PA; m Jared Cone 1823;d 1851 Otsego, OH
John b 1798 PA; d 1842
Sarah b 1800 PA m 1819 Samuel Douglas; d 1844
Hannah b 1801 PA d 1830
Philip b 1803 d 1856
Frances b 1806 PA m 1826 Josiah Walker
Indexed, illustrations.
$45.00 ppd US & Can
If you are interested in the book, please e-mail me.
Diane
da...@worldnet.att.net
RBR...@prodigy.com
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X-Message: #6
Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:46:01 GMT
From: Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: LOMEN,BRANDT, JOY book
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I have found a used book entitled "Genealogies of the LOMEN, BRANDT, & JOY Families" by G.J. Lomen published in 1929 by Mohn Printers.
If you are interested in the book, please e-mail me.
Diane
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X-Message: #7
Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:47:45 GMT
From: Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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I have found a used book entitled ''Brady Family Reunion & Fragments of Brady History & Biography", by William G. Murdock published in 1909.
Brady family of Cumberland County & Indiana County PA, including Hugh, William Perry, Jasper Ewing, Samuel, & John.
No index, some photos, softbound ,123 pages.
$21.50 ppd US & Can. (WA residents add 8.1% sales tax)
If you are interested in the book, please e-mail me.
Diane
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X-Message: #8
Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:48:30 GMT
From: Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: DORR book
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I have found a used book entitled ''The Life & Times of Thomas Wilson DORR, Governor of RI", by Dan King, published in 1859.
No index.
If you are interested in the book, please e-mail me.
Diane
da...@worldnet.att.net
RBR...@prodigy.com
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X-Message: #9
Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:47:25 GMT
From: Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: GRIER book
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"GRIER of SAN FRANCISCO: Builder in the West & his Family 1878-1988" by William M. Grier, Jr, published in1989.
William M, Sr was b 24 Sep 1878 to William John Grier (1853-1909) & Georgie ORR (1856-1921) in San Fran. William M, Sr was married to Elo Theresa LANNON.
William John Grier was the son of James Grier & Eliza Anne Patterson.
Allied Families: BORMAN, LANNON, PATTERSON, GRAFMUELLER, BROWNLEE, DE RHAM, GLAZEBROOK, SEARS.
Bibliography, Name Index, Subject Index, photos, & pedigree charts included.
$15.00 ppd US & Can
If you are interested in the book, please e-mail me.
Diane
da...@worldnet.att.net
RBR...@prodigy.com
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X-Message: #10
Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:48:07 GMT
From: Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: CANNING book
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I have found a used book entitled '' Connecticut River Reeds-Poetry of the Farm & Rural Life", by Josiah Dean CANNING, published in 1892. Josiah Dean Canning was born 31Aug1816, died 16Mar 1892. Most of his life was spent in the town of his birth, Gill, on the Connecticut River. If this man is in your lineage, this is a must have book!
If you are interested in the book, please e-mail me.
Diane
da...@worldnet.att.net
RBR...@prodigy.com
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X-Message: #11
Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:47:01 GMT
From: Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: JENNINGS book
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I have found a used book entitled ''Duchess Sarah: being the Social History of the Times of SARAH JENNINGS, Duchess of Marlborough", compiled by Mrs Arthur Colville (a descendant), published in 1904. Sarah was born 5Jun1660, the youngest of seven children of Richard Jennings & Frances his wife, of Sandridge, in the county of Hertford.
Index, 400 pgs
If you are interested in the book, please e-mail me.
Diane
da...@worldnet.att.net
RBR...@prodigy.com
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X-Message: #12
Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:46:24 GMT
From: Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: PRAETORIOUS book
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"An Immigrant Settler" by Henry Praetorius published in 1988.
The Praetoriuses came from Germany to North Dakota, then on to Odessa, WA.
Descendants lived in 7 place settings all in Washington: Odessa, Ritzville, Cheney, Spokane, Pullman, Hanford, & Toppenish.
Softbound, used, 122 pgs, photos, no index.
$10.00 ppd US & Can
If you are interested in the book, please e-mail me.
Diane
da...@worldnet.att.net
RBR...@prodigy.com
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X-Message: #13
Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:48:55 GMT
From: Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: GAILEY-KELLY book
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"The GAILEY-KELLY Lineage" compiled by Eileen Gailey Kelly, limited edition published in 1971.
Used book, 221 pgs,Wonderful index, pictures.
$32.50 ppd US & Can
If you are interested in the book, please e-mail me.
Diane
da...@worldnet.att.net
RBR...@prodigy.com
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X-Message: #14
Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:49:37 GMT
From: Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: FISHER book
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"The O.W. Fisher Heritage" by Herman Steen, published in 1961 Frank McCaffrey Publishers.
Oliver Williams Fisher b. Wheelersburg, OH 1842; m 1867 Euphemia ROBINSON; d Seattle, WA 1922.
Children: William Peter b 1869 KY d 1938 WA
Burr b 1872 MO d 1924 WA
Oliver David b 1875 MO
Daniel Robinson b 1878 MO
Lula Christina b 1881 MO d 1956 WA
Orin Wallace b 1891 Mo
Index.
$20.00 ppd US & Can
If you are interested in the book, please e-mail me.
Diane
da...@worldnet.att.net
RBR...@prodigy.com
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Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:49:14 GMT
From: Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: GRAY book
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I have found a used book entitled "The Hon. George Gray, 4th of Philadelphia- His Ancestors & Descendants" by Mary Stanley Field Liddell, published in 1940.
Ancestors: G. Gray 1 & Grays of Barbadoes
G. Gray 2 & the BEARDSLEYS
G Gray 3 & the COULTASES
G Gray 4 & the IBBETSONS
Descendants: BRANNON, LEIFER,GRUBB, KNOWLES,HILL,THOMAS, MORTON
Index, pics, newpaper clippings, notes.
If you are interested in the book, please e-mail me.
$32.50 ppd US & Can. WA residents add 8.1% sales tax.
Diane
da...@worldnet.att.net
RBR...@prodigy.com
D1B...@aol.com
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Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:50:02 GMT
From: Diane Austin <da...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v9egq$7...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: HIGGINSON book
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"Descendants of the Rev Thomas Higginson" by Thomas Boyd Higginson published in 1958
Born abt 1700 in Ireland, m Mary Boyd d 1775
Children: Judith, Boyd
Boyd's children: John, George, William, Thomas
Most lived in Canada.
Index, 64 pgs
$20.00 ppd US & Can
If you are interested in the book, please e-mail me.
Diane
da...@worldnet.att.net
RBR...@prodigy.com
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X-Message: #17
Date: 11 Sep 1997 18:58:01 GMT
From: PRA...@prodigy.com (Mr. Fred J. Lauver)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Royal Genealogy
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Sounds like an employer with plenty of opportunities for advancement.
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X-Message: #18
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:35:53 -0400
From: ca...@freenet.carleton.ca (Gordon R Wilkinson)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34183A...@freenet.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFinder (was Broderbund and RootsWeb)
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John S. Wilkinson wrote:
>
> OK, where can I access the Internet Family Finder
>
> In article <5v7i0i$klt$1...@ha2.rdc1.sfba.home.com> paul_bu...@broder.com
> (Paul Burchfield) writes:>From: paul_bu...@broder.com (Paul Burchfield)
> >Subject: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFinder (was Broderbund and RootsWeb)
> >Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 01:35:08 GMT
>
> >I'm posting this on behalf of Eric Holstege who is the Vice President of
> >Online Business for the Banner Blue division of Broderbund Software.
>
> >Sincerely,
> >Paul Burchfield
> >Broderbund Software,
> >Banner Blue division
>
> ________________cut_______________________cut___________
John,
Jumpto my page below. Then, in the bottom right corner there is a
listing (underlined jump spots) look for "Search" and make the jump.
This is going backward but you'll find the home page.
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Looking for: * WILKINSON * WITT(e) * POIRIER * LALANDE
also: LAUDER - KNUTH - YOURTH - SCOTT (England, Scotland, Pommern)
also: Paradis - Guyon - Biesenthal - Meitz
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/i/l/Gordon-R-Wilkinson-Ontario/
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X-Message: #19
Date: 11 Sep 1997 19:08:44 GMT
From: lady...@aol.com (Ladyhvac)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970911190...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Thalman
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I can't be the only person researching this name !!!! Please contact me if
you are to.
Annie (Lady...@aol.com)
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X-Message: #20
Date: 11 Sep 1997 19:08:42 GMT
From: lady...@aol.com (Ladyhvac)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970911190...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: What county is Springfield, Illinois in?
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I need to get a birth certificate from Springfield, Illinois but I don't
have the slightest idea where to write or how much money to send. The birth
occured in 1905 if this makes a differance ( I know it does in some states
). I would appreciate if some one could help me with this.
Annie (Lady...@aol.com)
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X-Message: #21
Date: 11 Sep 1997 19:08:43 GMT
From: lady...@aol.com (Ladyhvac)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970911190...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Markings on headstones
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I went to a couple of small cemetaries around my home here in Harford
County, Maryland a couple of days ago. On a few of the headstones that were
dated late 1800's early 1900's the were a couple of "pictures" (for a lack
of a better word). The first one I saw was in a circle above the persons
name was a hand with the pointer finger sticking straight up, the other
"picture" was in the same place only it was two hands shaking. There were
no other markings besides the persons name and dates and the occasional "
At rest ". I was wondering if this was a group or organization of some
sort. I also found that these "pictures" were on male as well as female
headstones. I am just curious if people have seen this and what it means. I
don't know if this makes a differance or not but these cemetaries are close
to PA.
Annie (Lady...@aol.com)
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X-Message: #22
Date: 11 Sep 1997 19:08:38 GMT
From: PRA...@prodigy.com (Mr. Fred J. Lauver)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v9fjm$26ti$3...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>
Subject: Re: The Royal Links
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Are you referring to royal genealogies? The only one I am aware of is at:
http://ftp.cac.psu.edu/~saw/royal/royalgen.html
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X-Message: #23
Date: 11 Sep 1997 19:06:17 GMT
From: PRA...@prodigy.com (Mr. Fred J. Lauver)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v9ff9$26ti$2...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>
Subject: Royal Genealogy
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There is an excellent web site that links a genealogy of royal families at:
http://ftp.cac.psu.edu/~saw/royal/royalgen.html
Does anyone know of a site that has GEDCOM files for royal families? I'd love to enter this into one of my genealogy programs at home for easier reference.
Fred
pra...@prodigy.com
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X-Message: #24
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 13:19:08 -0700
From: Gary Forbis <for...@accessone.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Royal Genealogy
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MarianB527 wrote:
>
> Like everyone else, my children and I have been discussing British
> Royalty. Can someone explain why some/all kings wives are call "Queen"
> but Queen Elizabeth's husband is Prince Phillip? Thanks
I believe this was already explained but I'll do my best to restate it.
I hope I have it right.
A king is of higher rank than a queen. The person inheriting the title
must
be of higher rank than his or her spouse.
--
--gary
for...@accessone.com
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X-Message: #25
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 20:22:54 -0700
From: "H. Dowda" <hdo...@scsn.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341764...@scsn.net>
Subject: 30th Inf. Div, WWII
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If anyone from the 30th recalls Harold Dowda, from Alabama, I would
really like to hear from them. He was at Normandy, St. Lo, Malmedy and
the liberation of Paris. Thanks
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X-Message: #26
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 23:52:58 +0200
From: Christer Hamre <christe...@mbox200.swipnet.se>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Civil war soldier help needed
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lab...@labels.com wrote:
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> Hello,
>
> Are there any pages on the web where I may search civil war
> information? I am searching for the regiment, etc. that my ancestor,
> James Clement Sharman served in. He would have served in Alabama.
>
> Thanks for any info.
>
> Leah
--
Hi.
I sent you an email (lab...@labels.com) answer, but it came back
directly, I had enclosed my civil war bookmarks, too.
Any suggestions ?
My Very Best Regards
Christer
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
E-mail: mailto:christe...@mbox200.swipnet.se
URL: http://home1.swipnet.se/~w-13626 (UPDATED 97-08-30)
Gothenburg, Sweden
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X-Message: #27
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 18:03:21 -0400
From: James A Honeychuck <jimh...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v9q4a$c...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>
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H. Dowda wrote:
>
> If anyone from the 30th recalls Harold Dowda, from Alabama, I would
> really like to hear from them. He was at Normandy, St. Lo, Malmedy and
> the liberation of Paris. Thanks
Here's information on a newsletter for veterans of that division:
Organization/Unit
30th Inf Div
Service:
Army
Branch:
Infantry
Contact Name:
Mr. Richard Jepsen
Address:
2409 Lookout Dr
Manhattan, KS, 66502-2918
Phone:
913-539-7147
Newsletter:
30th Div News
Reference:
Stars & S 8-24-97
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X-Message: #28
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 22:27:53 GMT
From: Ke...@ids.net (Kevin)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v9r6k$s8t$1...@paperboy.ids.net>
Subject: New to group!!
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Hi, I am new to this group and I want to continue the work of another family
member,computerize his work and make it grow...which of the NUMEOUS software
packages on the shelf do you suggest???? why whynot??
Kevin
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X-Message: #29
Date: 11 Sep 1997 22:27:38 GMT
From: daka...@thegrid.net (David Kaiser)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v9r8q$c...@bl-4.rootsweb.com>
Subject: KEIGWIN; CT,USA; 1642-1736
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KEIGWIN; CT,USA; 1642-1736
Seeking the ancestry of John KEIGWIN
John KEIGWIN (b 1642 - d 5 Dec 1736 Stonington, CT) lived in Mousehole,
Cornwall, Lands End, England before imigrating to America. He married
Hannah BROWN (b 5 Dec 1680 - d. 3 Mar 1771) on 10 Oct 1700. John and
Hannah had a son Lt. John KEIGWIN, b 8 Mar 1703-4 - d. 8 Jul 1775
Voluntown, CT) who was baptized at Stonington Church in Connecticut, 23
Apr 1764. Lt. John married Deborah PARKE 15 Aug 1728.
Please direct responses to:
Jane & Ed Evans
711 West Hamilton Avenue
Sherrill, NY 13461
daka...@thegrid.net (David Kaiser)
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X-Message: #30
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 22:23:14 GMT
From: paul_bu...@broder.com (Paul Burchfield)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v9r4p$bkr$1...@ha2.rdc1.sfba.home.com>
Subject: Re: Broderbund and Rootsweb Is this true
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In article <01bcbd82$de35d7c0$5692...@dsuarez.cts.com>, "Donna Suarez" <dsu...@cts.com> wrote:
>It certainly is true. However, the Broderbund response is a no response.
>The ultimate irrogance.
<snip>
I hope you saw the posting entitled Broderbund's Internet FamilyFinder that
addressed the concerns raised.
As always, I am happy to answer any questions that arise.
Sincerely, Try the Internet FamilyFinder
Paul Burchfield Find out why Dick Eastman calls it:
Broderbund Software, "the future of Internet searches"
Banner Blue division www.familytreemaker.com/iffintro.html
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X-Message: #31
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 22:25:46 GMT
From: paul_bu...@broder.com (Paul Burchfield)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v9r9g$bkr$2...@ha2.rdc1.sfba.home.com>
Subject: Re: Latest version of FTW?
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In article <3417b40...@news4.inter.nl.net>, Eric...@net.HCC.nl (Eric Augusteijn) wrote:
>
>What is the latest version of FTW?
>The software shop only sells 3.0.
>What would I miss if I should buy 3.0?
Are you seeing Family Tree Maker 3 or III?
The latest versions are in Family Tree Maker Standard Edition III and Family
Tree Maker Deluxe Edition III. They contain Family Tree Maker version 4.
I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.
Sincerely, Try the Internet FamilyFinder
Paul Burchfield Find out why Dick Eastman calls it:
Broderbund Software, "the future of Internet searches"
Banner Blue division www.familytreemaker.com/iffintro.html
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X-Message: #32
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:17:25 -0400
From: Jon Boehm <jb...@bright.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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the finger pointing upwards would mean "to heaven". Possibly an early
death, probably before marriage age. The two hands clasped is an
indicator of marriage. Have seen both types in cemeteries here in the
midwest also.
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X-Message: #33
Date: 11 Sep 1997 23:12:07 GMT
From: cea...@aol.com (CEarls)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970911231...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Van Buskirk genealogy
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See my site at http://members.aol.com/CEarls/index.html
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X-Message: #34
Date: 11 Sep 1997 23:12:43 GMT
From: cea...@aol.com (CEarls)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970911231...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Fields genealogy
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See my site at htt;://members.aol.com/CEarls/index.html
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X-Message: #35
Date: 11 Sep 1997 16:21:51 -0700
From: FLOSS...@aol.com
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Where to write in Illinois?
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Illinois records can be found at Office of Vital Records, 605 W. Jefferson
St., Springfield, IL 62702-5097 Phone# 217-782-6553 hope this helps!
Sherrie
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X-Message: #36
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 22:02:46 GMT
From: ro...@mail.mnsi.net (Rob McLean)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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I thought there might be other's that found this interesting!
#GenealogyForum on IRC (Internet Relay Chat) is a support group for
you in your quest for genealogical answers, we help where we can and
refer you to others if we can't. We believe that in helping others we
ultimately help ourselves too. We are serious about our genealogy;
rowdy, sometimes, in our playtime; hopefully, companionable in the
silences that sometimes occur when everyone is surfing the web, but
always willing to stop the activities in progress to help if we can.
Most of us have a doorbell installed on the channel door, just give us
a few seconds to close what we are doing to respond.
The biggest advantage to IRC is that it helps you "help yourself", AND
it keeps up the morale! (Sorta like "misery loves company".) We all
get discouraged but we have each other to pull us up and keep the fire
burning to dig some more. Nothing lights that fire faster than seeing
someone make a "find".
For more information about Genealogy on IRC, check out our webpage at:
http://cust2.iamerica.net/pscobb/index.htm
YOUR IRC EXPERIENCE
What It Can and Can't Do for You
#GENEALOGYFORUM
Announcements and Our Agenda
HOW TO JOIN IRC
Step by Step Instructions
HOW TO USE MIRC
Step by Step Instructions
WHO'S LOOKING FOR YOUR ANCESTORS?
Searchable Index of Surnames of Our Guests
OTHER GENEALOGY CHANNELS ON IRC
Their Servers and Their Webpages
ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM ELSEWHERE
Whats Happening Around IRC
See ya 'round the web!
Regards!
tex^mom
From The Lone Star State of Texas =A7=A5=BF=A5=A7=20
#GenealogyForum IRC Channel on Afternet:Portland
server agora.rdrop.com
"Who's Looking for YOUR Ancestors?"
Check our Webpage to Find Out!
http://cust2.iamerica.net/pscobb/index.htm
email: psc...@mailhost.iamerica.net
? Rob McLean
__/~~~\ Broadcasting from the
{ 0 0 } Great White North
---oOOO--(_)--OOOo--- ro...@mnsi.net
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 79
Today's Topics:
#1 Re: ? Mac Geneolgy Software [Holly_S...@elric.maximumaccess]
#2 Re: Make$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ [chokmah <cho...@post5.tele.dk>]
#3 I need help finding my roots!! [saw...@worldnet.att.net]
#4 Re: 1949 NYC Death Cert -- precise [myb...@ibm.net (Dan & Paula Sherri]
#5 Re: Broderbund and Rootsweb Is thi ["Donna Suarez" <dsu...@cts.com>]
#6 Re: Broderbund and Rootsweb Is thi ["Dick Miale" <dmi...@exis.net>]
#7 Re: Kansas & Oklahoma Territory De [Ron or Judy McCurdy <RonMac@worldn]
#8 Re: missing links Belgium [jma...@aol.com (JMasco)]
#9 1871 Canadian Census [Jack Hughes <hugh...@erols.com>]
#10 Detroit City Directories [Jack Hughes <hugh...@erols.com>]
#11 Re: 1949 NYC Death Cert -- precise [Carl Cason <cca...@worldnet.att.ne]
#12 New York State Newspapers [del...@webtv.net (derry dubetsky)]
#13 Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFi [Wes Plouff <nwpl...@rust.net>]
#14 Re: MAC PAF 2.31 Temple Ready [jch...@getthe.net (church jim)]
#15 Family Tree Maker Update [paul...@aol.com (Paul NMN B)]
#16 Re: Royal Genealogy [ef...@aol.com (EFA8)]
#17 Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFi ["Donna Suarez" <dsu...@cts.com>]
#18 Farabee surname [raf <rfar...@gte.net>]
#19 Re: JENNINGS book [Bonnee Ballinger <coralreef@worldn]
#20 FTM CD 7 lookup please [Doug Page <dp...@earthlink.net>]
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X-Message: #1
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 97 15:48:03 PDT
From: Holly_S...@elric.maximumaccess.com (Holly Sullivan)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <Holly_Sul...@elric.maximumaccess.com>
Subject: Re: ? Mac Geneolgy Software
> I'm presently trying out GENE 4.2 . I'm happy with it so far.
Thanks for the tip! (lurking Mac owner)
> For Mac software I try "http://www.download.com/
> I've done quite well from there !!
I find lots more stuff at the Mac software hyperarchive though.
download.com is a nice setup, but they don't get all the new stuff in there
like the hyperarchive does.
-- Via DLG2000 v1.2.3
:)---Holly---<--<-@ * ho...@cheerful.com * <GRIN>
FunAmigaSysopPaganSexGoddessQuiltArtistSCACostumerAtLarge
BBS 619 549-0278 http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/4201
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X-Message: #2
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 02:13:25 +0200
From: chokmah <cho...@post5.tele.dk>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341889...@post5.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Make$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$Read ThIs
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Dr. Whisky wrote:
>
> note to self, get on his case.
>
> #6 Patrick Janitz
> 1801 N Leland
> Indpls, In 46218
>
> cc
>
> BEARSCOUT <BEAR...@prodigy.net> wrote in article
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LAWS against SPAMMERS:
Its best for those who are resident in the USA just to go see the police
but for people outside the US Ill suggest that you call The US embassy for information.
"By US Code Title 47, Sec 227(a)(2)(B), a computer/modem/printer
meets the definition of a telephone fax machine.
By Sec 227(b)(1)(C), it is unlawful to send any unsolicited
advertisment to such equipment.
By Sec. 227(b)(3)(C), a violation of the aforementioned section is
punishable by action to recover actual money loss, or $500, whichever
is greater, for each violation."
I will report any further violations from Your site, which I get
knowledge of to ab...@postoffice.us
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X-Message: #3
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 19:41:06 -0600
From: saw...@worldnet.att.net
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <874024...@dejanews.com>
Subject: I need help finding my roots!!
Can anyone of you help me find a family tree of the hersheys and the
sawdons.. I have searched the net but didn't find anything.. Maybe you
can!! Please help me.. It is appreciated..
-------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
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X-Message: #4
Date: 12 Sep 97 01:01:00 GMT
From: myb...@ibm.net (Dan & Paula Sherrin)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34189...@news1.ibm.net>
Subject: Re: 1949 NYC Death Cert -- precise answer needed
I obtained my father's NYC birth certificate by stating that I was compiling a
family medical history - not untrue, in my case.
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X-Message: #5
Date: 12 Sep 1997 00:20:52 GMT
From: "Donna Suarez" <dsu...@cts.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Has Broderbund apologized to Rootsweb? Does it occur to Broderbund that
indexing the Root-L database constitutes taking it since all the database
is is surnames?
Is Broderbund going to ask the site owner if it can index their sites
before it does it or will the company continue to grab whatever they want
without asking?
Who at USGENWEB is 'thrilled' to have Broderbund indexing their sites?
--
Donna Suarez
E-mail: dsu...@cts.com
Webpage: http://www.users.cts.com/sd/d/dsuarez
Paul Burchfield <paul_bu...@broder.com> wrote in article
<5v9r4p$bkr$1...@ha2.rdc1.sfba.home.com>...
In article <01bcbd82$de35d7c0$5692...@dsuarez.cts.com>, "Donna Suarez"
<dsu...@cts.com> wrote:
>It certainly is true. However, the Broderbund response is a no response.
>The ultimate irrogance.
<snip>
I hope you saw the posting entitled Broderbund's Internet FamilyFinder that
addressed the concerns raised.
As always, I am happy to answer any questions that arise.
Sincerely, Try the Internet FamilyFinder
Paul Burchfield Find out why Dick Eastman calls it:
Broderbund Software, "the future of Internet searches"
Banner Blue division www.familytreemaker.com/iffintro.html
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X-Message: #6
Date: 12 Sep 1997 01:18:09 GMT
From: "Dick Miale" <dmi...@exis.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbf1a$af9a2120$6b4c...@dmiale.exis.net>
Subject: Re: Broderbund and Rootsweb Is this true
IMHO, if Broderbund is causing so many problems as noted here, then it is
up to the genealogy community to boycott, not only their website(if one
exists), but their products too. The genealogical community should
encourage people seeking genealogical software not to purchase that
specific product, and explain in detail the problems that Broderbund
supposedly causes. Then let the buyer/user beware.
Please excuse me for posting such a large message.
Donna Suarez <dsu...@cts.com> wrote in article
<01bcbd82$de35d7c0$5692...@dsuarez.cts.com>...
> It certainly is true. However, the Broderbund response is a no response.
> The ultimate irrogance.
> downloaded inappropriate material.
>
> o There's no regard for copyrighted material.
>
> o There's no guarantee that the downloaded pages aren't going
> to show up on CD-666 next month.
>
> o The text fragments which Broderbund shows with the link, if
> doubled or tripled in length, would often cause the user to
> not need to visit the linked page at all. If Broderbund
> ever does that (and it's a trivial software switch), those
> guys will have effectively stolen every single genealogist's Web
> pages.
>
> What particularly annoys RootsWeb is that Broderbund's indexing
> effort really does have value and would probably be a good idea if
> they just behaved responsibly. Unfortunately, when we offered to
> open RootsWeb to them if they would just avoid damaging our servers
> and if they would carefully respect the rights of the 1,700
> independent Websites at RootsWeb, what we got back was dead
> air.
>
> *sigh* -B
>
> --
> Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator,
> soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L
> RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative
> http://www.rootsweb.com/
> P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798
> leve...@rootsweb.com
> --
>
>
>
>
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X-Message: #7
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 21:06:30 -0500
From: Ron or Judy McCurdy <Ron...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3418A3...@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Kansas & Oklahoma Territory Death Records
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Oklahmoma became a state in 1907. There were practically no death
records kept before that time. The best way to trace your
ggg-grandfather would be through county land records. Another
possibility would be the Guthrie Newspaper may be on microfilm for that
time period and might be available at the Guthrie Public Library.
Ron McCurdy
mpke...@europa.com wrote:
>
> According to his Civil War Pension File documents, my ggg-grandfather
> died on 15 March 1903. The form that showed his date of death was
> a US Pension Agency form from Topeka, Kansas. However, most of
> the documents in his file seem to indicate that my ggg-grandfather
> actually lived in Guthrie, Oklahoma Territory. I don't know whether
> he died in Oklahoma Territory or in Kansas.
>
> Can anyone please tell me when Kansas and Oklahoma started issuing
> death certificates or what other resources I might check?
>
> Molly Kernan
> mpke...@europa.com
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X-Message: #8
Date: 12 Sep 1997 02:15:44 GMT
From: jma...@aol.com (JMasco)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970912021...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: missing links Belgium
I have subscribed to Belgian Laces, a publication of the Belgian
Researchers, for years. They will be very helpful to you and have contacts
in Belgium for research.
The Belgian Researchers, Inc.
62073 Fruitdale Lane
La Grande, OR 97850-5312
(503) 963-6697, fax (503) 962-7604
Good luck.
Jean Hudson Masco (MASCAUX)
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X-Message: #9
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 22:31:44 -0400
From: Jack Hughes <hugh...@erols.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3418A9...@erols.com>
Subject: 1871 Canadian Census
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Can anyone tell me what the occupation "LAB" is which appears for my
great great grandfather in the 1871 Canadian censes? I'm assuming that
it is "Laborer" but I'm not sure.
Thank you.
--
Jack M. Hughes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . hugh...@erols.com
>>>>>WB6SOI<<<<<
3630 Bainbridge Court
Waldorf, Maryland 20601-3001
United States
301-932-7115
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/u/g/Jack-M-Hughes/
or
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7152/
Researching the following names plus many others:
(H/U/G/H/E/S) - (K/O/P/E/L) - (K/O/R/B/Y) - (Q/U/A/T/E/R)
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X-Message: #10
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 22:42:38 -0400
From: Jack Hughes <hugh...@erols.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3418AC...@erols.com>
Subject: Detroit City Directories
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Can anyone tell me if City Directories for Detroit, Michigan for the
years 1867 through 1877 are available through the LDS FHC's?
--
Jack M. Hughes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . hugh...@erols.com
>>>>>WB6SOI<<<<<
3630 Bainbridge Court
Waldorf, Maryland 20601-3001
United States
301-932-7115
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/u/g/Jack-M-Hughes/
or
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7152/
Researching the following names plus many others:
(H/U/G/H/E/S) - (K/O/P/E/L) - (K/O/R/B/Y) - (Q/U/A/T/E/R)
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X-Message: #11
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 18:35:48 -0700
From: Carl Cason <cca...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vaa7e$8...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: 1949 NYC Death Cert -- precise answer needed
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Cyndy Bates wrote:
>
> Brian Wickham wrote:
> > I got my grandfather's death certificate from Dec 1949. I would
> > suggest you spell out your relationship to the decedant on the form.
> > Avoid the word 'genealogy'. Use something like 'establish > > parentage'.
It's interesting how cities in the same state operate so differently. I
requested a 1907 death certificate from the City of Albany (N.Y.) and
received it in just over one week. It was stamped "FOR GENEALOGY ONLY",
which I had stated in the request because it cost $4.00 less that way.
--
Carl Cason, of Bothell, Washington
email: cca...@worldnet.att.net
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X-Message: #12
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 21:40:36 -0400
From: del...@webtv.net (derry dubetsky)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5va6ik$rlt$1...@newsd-122.bryant.webtv.net>
Subject: New York State Newspapers
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As a novice in genealogy, I've read thru many
microfilms of local (Mid Hudson Valley) news-
papers with limited success. However, many
dates -- and newspapers-- are missing.
My question is: does anyone know of a site with listings of microfilms
of New York State news-
papers?
Perhaps, again, showing my inexperience in
this matter, who takes it upon himself or her-
self to microfilm newspapers 25 to 100 years
old--even if the paper is out of business?
Thanks for any help. Derry D.
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X-Message: #13
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 22:43:32 -0400
From: Wes Plouff <nwpl...@rust.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3418AC...@rust.net>
Subject: Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFinder (was Broderbund and RootsWeb)
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Eric Holstege, VP, Online Business, Banner Blue Division of Broderbund
Software, writes:
>There has been some confusion and mis-information about the Internet
>FamilyFinder and Broderbund's robot, and I'd like to clear this up.
Most points of the dispute between RootsWeb and Banner Blue over
FamilyFinder's purpose and contents are matters of opinion. However,
Eric Holstege misstates key facts about web search robots.
This posting is written in hopes of forestalling the spread of yet more
confusion and misinformation about robots on the web. In the quotes
below, DS is an unnamed person at dsenter.com quoted by Donna Suarez, BL
is Dr. Brian Leverich of RootsWeb, and EH is Eric Holstege of Banner
Blue.
DS> Doc noticed that someone was hitting my site repeatedly. [...]
DS> They were so strong they were causing havoc with all of dsenter.com.
BL> o Their robot is wildly out of conformance with standard
BL> robot design, which is why it batters servers so badly.
EH> We only visit each new page once. For a site with
EH> a few hundred pages, that's a few hundred hits - a minimal load.
True, a robot only visits each page once. However, the rate of URL
requests can have a large effect on the performance of a target web
server. A "hit" from a robot every few seconds can bog down a web site
server. Multiply this out by thousands of pages on a site like RootsWeb
and you can see that without some pacing mechanism a robot will tie up a
site for quite some time. Well-designed robots tread lightly on a target
site by rotating requests round-robin among several targets, or by
setting a hit rate against a target many times slower than the target
site's response time. From the comments above, Banner Blue's robot
clearly runs full throttle. In the web-robot community at large, the
issue of resource hogging was resolved in 1994.
EH> A site with thousands of pages, like RootsWeb, is designed to handle
EH> thousands of hits; it has thousands of users.
That's an assumption. There is no fixed relation between the size and
speed of a web site. A small, popular site needs more computing power, a
faster Internet connection but less storage than a large, boring site.
While there are heuristic measures, a browser cannot tell for certain
how powerful the computer at the target site might be.
EH> The difference between our robot and, for example, the AltaVista
EH> robot, is that AltaVista only visits the top few pages of each site,
False. AltaVista indexes all pages it can link to, except when told not
to do so (see next point). AltaVista searches often return page
references buried several levels down from a site's home page.
EH> whereas we visit all the pages to ensure that we've indexed all the
EH> names.
BL> o Their robot ignores robots.txt files, which means there's
BL> no polite way to keep it out of places where it shouldn't
BL> be.
Sometimes a webmaster does not want to have a search engine index his
entire site. Examples include frequently changing and dynamically
constructed pages. These reasons boil down to the webmaster exercising
some control over how his pages are presented to the outside world.
There are two mechanisms to control where a robot may search: the Robot
Exclusion Standard and HTML metainformation tags.
Under the voluntary, de facto Robot Exclusion Standard, a robot looks in
the file "robots.txt" to see where it is permitted to search. Using META
tags in the body of a web page, a robot can be told not to index a page
or not to follow the links from a page. Most search engines implement
both standards. Internet FamilyFinder plainly obeys neither.
CONCLUSION: Banner Blue's web search robot shows poor Net citizenship.
REFERENCES:
http://info.webcrawler.com/mak/projects/robots/exclusion.html
http://scooter.pa-x.dec.com/ (AltaVista's Scooter robot)
Fah-Chun Cheong, _Internet Agents: Spiders, Wanderers, Brokers, and
Bots_. Indianapolis: New Riders Publishing, 1996. See pp. 101-115.
--
Wes Plouff nwpl...@rust.net
Royal Oak, Michigan
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X-Message: #14
Date: 11 Sep 1997 21:07:07 -0700
From: jch...@getthe.net (church jim)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3.0.3.16.1997091...@206.172.36.2>
Subject: Re: MAC PAF 2.31 Temple Ready
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>Bill Perry wrote:
>>
>> I am trying to export a Gedcom file for temple ready. It has to be on a
>> Dos disk some how. I have not found any utility or instructions on how
>> to make the disk dos formated so that I can put this through temple
>> ready at the FHC.
>>
>> Please help.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Bill
I am not an expert at this but isn't a GEDCOM file ascii? If so wouldn't
it just go on a disc of any sort? When you buy a disk nowadays they say
right on it that they are Apple and Dos compatable so wouldn't a GEDCOM
saved to disc work on any machine?
Jim
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X-Message: #15
Date: 12 Sep 1997 04:09:12 GMT
From: paul...@aol.com (Paul NMN B)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970912040...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Family Tree Maker Update
I recently updated FTM 3.4 to v4.0a. I found the new attributes great,
especially the "book" features. I use W95. I too was reluctant to
upgrade, but I did and I'm doing O.K.. I'm still a newbie on P.C. work.
Go ahead and do it.
<Paul...@aol.com> Paul Baranik
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X-Message: #16
Date: 12 Sep 1997 04:13:59 GMT
From: ef...@aol.com (EFA8)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970912041...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Royal Genealogy
MarianB527, and Gary,
Gary, I believe in the matter of Queen Elizabeth and Prince Phillip; the
Prince is not a King because Phillip was born into the Royal Family of Greece
and not England, therefore Prince Phillip can not take the title of King;
in England.
There has been Kings with Queens/Queens with Kings in England but for the
fact of Phillip's birthplace he was granted the title of Prince of Edinburgh.
There is lots of protocal and circumstance when it comes to this stuff, so
you have to be careful of what you say!! God knows, I could be wrong!!!
Jeff
ef...@aol.com
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X-Message: #17
Date: 12 Sep 1997 04:09:45 GMT
From: "Donna Suarez" <dsu...@cts.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbf31$0bf77240$5692...@dsuarez.cts.com>
Subject: Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFinder (was Broderbund and RootsWeb)
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Wes,
Thanks very much for the information. Its clear that Broderbund's actions
were wrong in this instance. The company should be asking permission
before it indexes a site.
The people behind Rootsweb have devoted long hours and considerable money
to offer the Rootsweb surname database, mailing lists and other features.
Rootsweb has a nominal subscription to defray their costs. If Broderbund
'takes' the Rootsweb databases and puts them in the FTM page, there would
be no incentive for anyone to visit the Rootsweb site thus diminishing the
Rootswebs ability to attract subscribers and to continue their efforts.
--
Donna Suarez
E-mail: dsu...@cts.com
Webpage: http://www.users.cts.com/sd/d/dsuarez
Wes Plouff <nwpl...@rust.net> wrote in article <3418AC...@rust.net>...
Eric Holstege, VP, Online Business, Banner Blue Division of Broderbund
Software, writes:
>There has been some confusion and mis-information about the Internet
>FamilyFinder and Broderbund's robot, and I'd like to clear this up.
Most points of the dispute between RootsWeb and Banner Blue over
FamilyFinder's purpose and contents are matters of opinion. However,
Eric Holstege misstates key facts about web search robots.
This posting is written in hopes of forestalling the spread of yet more
confusion and misinformation about robots on the web. In the quotes
below, DS is an unnamed person at dsenter.com quoted by Donna Suarez, BL
is Dr. Brian Leverich of RootsWeb, and EH is Eric Holstege of Banner
Blue.
DS> Doc noticed that someone was hitting my site repeatedly. [...]
DS> They were so strong they were causing havoc with all of dsenter.com.
BL> o Their robot is wildly out of conformance with standard
BL> robot design, which is why it batters servers so badly.
EH> We only visit each new page once. For a site with
EH> a few hundred pages, that's a few hundred hits - a minimal load.
True, a robot only visits each page once. However, the rate of URL
requests can have a large effect on the performance of a target web
server. A "hit" from a robot every few seconds can bog down a web site
server. Multiply this out by thousands of pages on a site like RootsWeb
and you can see that without some pacing mechanism a robot will tie up a
site for quite some time. Well-designed robots tread lightly on a target
site by rotating requests round-robin among several targets, or by
setting a hit rate against a target many times slower than the target
site's response time. From the comments above, Banner Blue's robot
clearly runs full throttle. In the web-robot community at large, the
issue of resource hogging was resolved in 1994.
EH> A site with thousands of pages, like RootsWeb, is designed to handle
EH> thousands of hits; it has thousands of users.
That's an assumption. There is no fixed relation between the size and
speed of a web site. A small, popular site needs more computing power, a
faster Internet connection but less storage than a large, boring site.
While there are heuristic measures, a browser cannot tell for certain
how powerful the computer at the target site might be.
EH> The difference between our robot and, for example, the AltaVista
EH> robot, is that AltaVista only visits the top few pages of each site,
False. AltaVista indexes all pages it can link to, except when told not
to do so (see next point). AltaVista searches often return page
references buried several levels down from a site's home page.
EH> whereas we visit all the pages to ensure that we've indexed all the
EH> names.
BL> o Their robot ignores robots.txt files, which means there's
BL> no polite way to keep it out of places where it shouldn't
BL> be.
Sometimes a webmaster does not want to have a search engine index his
entire site. Examples include frequently changing and dynamically
constructed pages. These reasons boil down to the webmaster exercising
some control over how his pages are presented to the outside world.
There are two mechanisms to control where a robot may search: the Robot
Exclusion Standard and HTML metainformation tags.
Under the voluntary, de facto Robot Exclusion Standard, a robot looks in
the file "robots.txt" to see where it is permitted to search. Using META
tags in the body of a web page, a robot can be told not to index a page
or not to follow the links from a page. Most search engines implement
both standards. Internet FamilyFinder plainly obeys neither.
CONCLUSION: Banner Blue's web search robot shows poor Net citizenship.
REFERENCES:
http://info.webcrawler.com/mak/projects/robots/exclusion.html
http://scooter.pa-x.dec.com/ (AltaVista's Scooter robot)
Fah-Chun Cheong, _Internet Agents: Spiders, Wanderers, Brokers, and
Bots_. Indianapolis: New Riders Publishing, 1996. See pp. 101-115.
--
Wes Plouff nwpl...@rust.net
Royal Oak, Michigan
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X-Message: #18
Date: 12 Sep 1997 04:17:36 GMT
From: raf <rfar...@gte.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vafp0$qpk$1...@gte1.gte.net>
Subject: Farabee surname
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Has anyone ever heard of this name? Supposedly from Ireland...
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X-Message: #19
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 21:32:48 -0700
From: Bonnee Ballinger <cora...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: JENNINGS book
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Diane Austin wrote:
>
> I have found a used book entitled ''Duchess Sarah: being the Social History of the Times of SARAH JENNINGS, Duchess of Marlborough", compiled by Mrs Arthur Colville (a descendant), published in 1904. Sarah was born 5Jun1660, the youngest of seven children of Richard Jennings & Frances his wife, of Sandridge, in the county of Hertford.
> Index, 400 pgs
> If you are interested in the book, please e-mail me.
> Diane
> da...@worldnet.att.net
> RBR...@prodigy.com
Diane,
I am researching the Jennings named - would it be possible to list a few
names found in the book?
Thanks
Bonnee
cora...@worldnet.att.net
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X-Message: #20
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 21:39:13 -0700
From: Doug Page <dp...@earthlink.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3418C7...@earthlink.net>
Subject: FTM CD 7 lookup please
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Can some one that has the Family Tree Maker CD # 7 look up Nehemiah Page
for me and tell me if it has his parents and siblings listed? Also if it
tells who submitted the info? I have his decendents (most anyway) but I
haven't been able to locate any other info.
Thanks
Doug Page
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 80
Today's Topics:
#1 Re: Broderbund and Rootsweb Is thi [paul_bu...@broder.com (Paul B]
#2 Re: Broderbund and Rootsweb Is thi [paul_bu...@broder.com (Paul B]
#3 Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFi [cher...@aol.com (ChersFmly)]
#4 25,300 NAMES AND 3300 SURNAMES ["James L. Edenfield" <e...@hom.net>]
#5 Re: FTM has 80% of the market??? [Bob Glaubitz <blgla...@isle.net>]
#6 Re: Sharing your GEDCOM file? [Bob Glaubitz <blgla...@isle.net>]
#7 GLAUBITZ, August/RAUTH, Anna Jacob [Bob Glaubitz <blgla...@isle.net>]
#8 german translation help needed (pl [jam...@buffnet.net (Jim Szczodrow]
#9 Southampton ["Darlene Putze" <Shaklee-Putze@wor]
#10 MicroFiche/MASS. [Keith Bowden <kbo...@gmi.edu>]
#11 Henderson,KY [Keith Bowden <kbo...@gmi.edu>]
#12 Re: Southampton [Simon Pugh <mr...@mrn1.mbiol.notti]
#13 Re: Surviving The Millenium [Shdwbld <palad...@geocities.com>]
#14 Seeking William Donald Weir-UK [janet reakes <jreakes@cyberalink.c]
#15 about 100 pages with genealogical ["Theo Strik" <tst...@caiw.nl>]
#16 about 100 pages with genealogical ["Theo Strik" <tst...@caiw.nl>]
#17 FRAMM [wayn...@bit.net.au]
#18 CLASSEN [wayn...@bit.net.au]
#19 Re: reunion genealogy program [wayn...@bit.net.au]
#20 Re: reunion genealogy program [wayn...@bit.net.au]
#21 GRASSMAN [wayn...@bit.net.au]
#22 HELMS [wayn...@bit.net.au]
#23 Re: MAC PAF 2.31 Temple Ready [maire...@zetnet.co.uk (Maire Bl]
#24 Re: Southampton [ja...@fly.cc.fer.hr (Kresimir Blaz]
#25 FULLER, Hannah; MA, USA; 1658 ["Jim Bridges" <jimbridg@frontierne]
#26 Re: Henderson,KY [jacob...@aol.com (Jacobugath)]
#27 Re: Broderbund and Rootsweb Is thi [city...@ix.netcom.com (Linda K. D]
#28 Re: Laptop's in research:Mac ["Martin N. Dunstan" <m...@dcs.st-an]
#29 Re: Markings on headstones [lady...@aol.com (Ladyhvac)]
#30 Re: What county is Springfield, Il [lady...@aol.com (Ladyhvac)]
#31 F C O R [Henry.L...@csource.com (Henry]
#32 Re: 1871 Canadian Census [ca...@freenet.carleton.ca (Gordon ]
#33 HITTER [Sarah and Tracie <p5ycho@access1.d]
#34 Re: Broderbund and Rootsweb Is thi [rb...@facstaff.wisc.edu (R.Bull/B.]
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X-Message: #1
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 04:20:09 GMT
From: paul_bu...@broder.com (Paul Burchfield)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vag20$2j3$2...@ha2.rdc1.sfba.home.com>
Subject: Re: Broderbund and Rootsweb Is this true
In article <01bcbf1a$af9a2120$6b4c...@dmiale.exis.net>, "Dick Miale" <dmi...@exis.net> wrote:
>IMHO, if Broderbund is causing so many problems as noted here, then it is
>up to the genealogy community to boycott, not only their website(if one
>exists), but their products too. The genealogical community should
>encourage people seeking genealogical software not to purchase that
>specific product, and explain in detail the problems that Broderbund
>supposedly causes. Then let the buyer/user beware.
>Please excuse me for posting such a large message.
<snip>
Dick,
Before you rause a rallying cry against Broderbund, did you read the response
of our Vice President of Online Business, Eric Holstege? It seems prudent that
you would want to hear both sides so an informed decision could be made.
Sincerely, Try the Internet FamilyFinder
Paul Burchfield Find out why Dick Eastman calls it:
Broderbund Software, "the future of Internet searches"
Banner Blue division www.familytreemaker.com/iffintro.html
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X-Message: #2
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 04:16:52 GMT
From: paul_bu...@broder.com (Paul Burchfield)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vafrr$2j3$1...@ha2.rdc1.sfba.home.com>
Subject: Re: Broderbund and Rootsweb Is this true
In article <01bcbf11$4c20d2a0$5692...@dsuarez.cts.com>, "Donna Suarez" <dsu...@cts.com> wrote:
>
>Has Broderbund apologized to Rootsweb? Does it occur to Broderbund that
>indexing the Root-L database constitutes taking it since all the database
>is is surnames?
I will defer to Eric's message not to discuss any specifics between Broderbund
and RootsWeb. I do know that Brian and Eric did communicate regarding the
Internet FamilyFinder.
>Is Broderbund going to ask the site owner if it can index their sites
>before it does it or will the company continue to grab whatever they want
>without asking?
Do AltaVista, Lycos, and Hotbot seek permission from a site before they index?
We don't grab, we index. Frankly, I'm surprised by this attitude. We undertook
the Internet FamilyFinder as a service to the genealogy community. Researchers
are saved having to browse through countless pages that don't have their
information. People who have put data on the Web now have a powerful tool to
GET people to the valuable data they have so generously published.
>Who at USGENWEB is 'thrilled' to have Broderbund indexing their sites?
This is someone with whom Eric spoke. I wasn't involved with that.
Sincerely, Try the Internet FamilyFinder
Paul Burchfield Find out why Dick Eastman calls it:
Broderbund Software, "the future of Internet searches"
Banner Blue division www.familytreemaker.com/iffintro.html
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X-Message: #3
Date: 12 Sep 1997 04:51:35 GMT
From: cher...@aol.com (ChersFmly)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970912045...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFinder (was Broderbund and RootsWeb)
In article <01bcbf31$0bf77240$5692...@dsuarez.cts.com>, "Donna Suarez"
<dsu...@cts.com> writes:
>The people behind Rootsweb have devoted long hours and considerable money
>to offer the Rootsweb surname database, mailing lists and other features.
>Rootsweb has a nominal subscription to defray their costs. If Broderbund
>'takes' the Rootsweb databases and puts them in the FTM page, there would
>be no incentive for anyone to visit the Rootsweb site thus diminishing the
>Rootswebs ability to attract subscribers and to continue their efforts.
I think you're a little misinformed here. I think the problem was that
the robot that was indexing the webpages were increasing traffic so that it
made it difficult for people to use Rootsweb pages. However, Broderbund is
not putting this information on their webpages, they are including it in a
search engine that will lead people to Rootsweb pages where the information
they are looking for can be found, so this will surely increase the
incentive to go to the Rootsweb pages.
Cherie Clark cher...@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/chersfmly
There's only one thing worse than being talked about...that's not
being talked about ~~~Oscar Wilde~~~
Fight Spam! http://www.cauce.org
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X-Message: #4
Date: 12 Sep 97 05:32:14 GMT
From: "James L. Edenfield" <e...@hom.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbf3c$c1468ae0$9c7ed8cc@default>
Subject: 25,300 NAMES AND 3300 SURNAMES
There are over 25,300 individuals and over 3300 surnames at
http://www.hom.net/~egs/
Absolutely FREE ACCESS!!
Completely searchable !!!
Thanks
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X-Message: #5
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 21:24:01 -0700
From: Bob Glaubitz <blgla...@isle.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3418C3E1...@isle.net>
Subject: Re: FTM has 80% of the market???
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>> My, aren't we a superior being. tsk, tsk.
Jonas wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:19:17 GMT, nospam....@value.net (Neil
> Bell) wrote:
>
> >Apparently Mr. Burchfield has never heard of PAF .. to say that FTM
> >has 80% of the market is pure nonsense..
>
> FTM hit the market in the right way at the right time and large
> numbers of newbies picked it up because it was available and
> convenient. I have just about all of the genealogy programs and my
> own rating puts FTM way down on the less desirable list. On top of
> that their marketing practices are questionable to say the least, what
>
> with soliciting user data and doing the ginza knife pitch with their
> cd-roms. They may indeed have 80 percent of the market by now but
> certainly an undiscriminating lot at best.
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X-Message: #6
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 21:38:40 -0700
From: Bob Glaubitz <blgla...@isle.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3418C750...@isle.net>
Subject: Re: Sharing your GEDCOM file?
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Jeez Gerri, just because I deleted all your daughters pics, you don't
need to get mad!!!
Gerald G. Fuller wrote:
> Hmmm. Perhaps without sex there would be no genealogy.
>
> glj...@penn.com wrote in article <8731294...@dejanews.com>...
> > In article <3409ACD6...@isle.net>,
> > Bob Glaubitz <blgla...@isle.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > >> Two terms come to mind that describe these yahoos "niggardly"
> and
> > > >> "Selfish". How did people like that ever become interested in
> an
> > > >> endeavor that by nature is a sharing effort.
> > >
> >
> >
> > This coming from a man who obviously spends a great deal of time
> perusing
> > the sex pages. Tell me Bob, how did someone who obsesses
> over sex
> > become interested in genealogy?
> >
> > -------------------==== Posted via Deja News
> ====-----------------------
> > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
> >
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X-Message: #7
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 21:22:39 -0700
From: Bob Glaubitz <blgla...@isle.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3418C38F...@isle.net>
Subject: GLAUBITZ, August/RAUTH, Anna Jacobina
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August was born 8/27/1842 in Hennersdorf, Duchy of Lauenberg,
Prussia,
married Anna Jacobina RAUTH in 1874 at Murdock, Nebraska.
He signed a "Declaration of Intention" on 8/8/1870.
I would be interested in knowing just where Hennersdorf is in present
day Germany, if it still exists.
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X-Message: #8
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 23:20:27 -0500
From: jam...@buffnet.net (Jim Szczodrowski)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <jamessz-1109...@fppp44.buffnet.net>
Subject: german translation help needed (please!)
I have several record extracts on a homepage that I need assistance on.
They are quite small. I believe I have translated them accuratly - but -
am not sure.
could someone take a look for me. the page is set up with a form.
www.buffnet.net/~jamessz/translation.html
thank you
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X-Message: #9
Date: 12 Sep 1997 06:39:38 GMT
From: "Darlene Putze" <Shakle...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vao3a$g...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Southampton
Can anyone tell me where Southampton is? Would it be in England?
My husbands Great Grandfather traveled to USA via Breman & Southampton.
I was wondering why the stop in England if that is where it is?
Is there somewhere in Germany I can write to for papers on departure from
Breman in 1873? Did they have to buy a ticket or get a passport or
something?
Thank You
Darlene
Shakle...@worldnet.att.net
http://home.att.net/~Shaklee-Putze
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X-Message: #10
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 03:21:00 -0400
From: Keith Bowden <kbo...@gmi.edu>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.970912031714.27378A-100000@nova>
Subject: MicroFiche/MASS.
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Looking for company to obtain microfiche on d/b/m for the towns of
Russell, Blanford, Otis, Westfield, MASS. Keith Bowden
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X-Message: #11
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 03:26:56 -0400
From: Keith Bowden <kbo...@gmi.edu>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.970912032435.27378D-100000@nova>
Subject: Henderson,KY
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Does anyone know if Kentucky or the city of Henderson, KY has a death
index? That is open to the public?
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X-Message: #12
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 08:29:43 +0100
From: Simon Pugh <mr...@mrn1.mbiol.nottingham.ac.uk>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3418EF...@mrn1.mbiol.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Southampton
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Southampton is a port in Hampshire UK. Passenger ships for the USA
commonly left from there.
Darlene Putze wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me where Southampton is? Would it be in England?
> My husbands Great Grandfather traveled to USA via Breman & Southampton.
> I was wondering why the stop in England if that is where it is?
>
> Is there somewhere in Germany I can write to for papers on departure from
> Breman in 1873? Did they have to buy a ticket or get a passport or
> something?
>
> Thank You
> Darlene
> Shakle...@worldnet.att.net
> http://home.att.net/~Shaklee-Putze
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X-Message: #13
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 06:42:32 -0400
From: Shdwbld <palad...@geocities.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3417CB...@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: Surviving The Millenium
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Angela Meade wrote:
>
> Surviving The Millenium
>
> A Handbook for the Survival of the Inner Self
>
> Learn the secrets of making it into the next century without a mental
> or metaphysical meltdown.
>
> Learn the simple steps to meditation and a renewel of the spirit.
>
> Simple, easy to read; no degrees needed
>
> Learn how to change your life and understand some of the strange
> patterns in your life and how to change them.
>
> Send $12.95 plus $3.00 shipping to:
>
> Light Millenium Press
> P.O. Box 395
> Hurley, Ms 39555
Hint, if you want this help(not from some cheesy book), just take
martial arts. It will greatly help you with your inner self.
And you get to learn how to fight at the same time.
As for the metaphysical part...............
There is good in all evil, and there is evil in all good.
Good cannot survive without evil and evil cannot survive without
good.(think of the ying yang)
CYA
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X-Message: #14
Date: 12 Sep 97 08:06:57 GMT
From: janet reakes <jre...@cyberalink.com.au>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3418f...@203.55.5.8>
Subject: Seeking William Donald Weir-UK
Anyone know the whereabouts of William Donald Weir, who was a jockey in 1952 in England.
His son is looking for him.
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X-Message: #15
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:11:35 +0200
From: "Theo Strik" <tst...@caiw.nl>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vb4g6$3s5$1...@newsserv2.caiw.nl>
Subject: about 100 pages with genealogical and historical links
Index page
http://www.dra.nl/~tstrik/index.html
Dutch Genealogy homepages "index by familyname"
http://www.dra.nl/~tstrik/dutch.htm
Surname indexes
http://www.dra.nl/~tstrik/linksto.htm
online maps and historical maps
http://www.dra.nl/~tstrik/maps.htm
Newsgroups
http://www.dra.nl/~tstrik/nieuws.htm
Phonebooks
http://www.dra.nl/~tstrik/telefoon.htm
Archives
http://www.dra.nl/~tstrik/archives.htm
search engines
http://www.dra.nl/~tstrik/searchengines.html
Genealogy Socities
http://www.dra.nl/~tstrik/verenigi.htm
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X-Message: #16
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:11:27 +0200
From: "Theo Strik" <tst...@caiw.nl>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vb4fu$3s4$1...@newsserv2.caiw.nl>
Subject: about 100 pages with genealogical and historical links
Index page
http://www.dra.nl/~tstrik/index.html
Dutch Genealogy homepages "index by familyname"
http://www.dra.nl/~tstrik/dutch.htm
Surname indexes
http://www.dra.nl/~tstrik/linksto.htm
online maps and historical maps
http://www.dra.nl/~tstrik/maps.htm
Newsgroups
http://www.dra.nl/~tstrik/nieuws.htm
Phonebooks
http://www.dra.nl/~tstrik/telefoon.htm
Archives
http://www.dra.nl/~tstrik/archives.htm
search engines
http://www.dra.nl/~tstrik/searchengines.html
Genealogy Socities
http://www.dra.nl/~tstrik/verenigi.htm
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X-Message: #17
Date: 12 Sep 1997 10:16:41 GMT
From: wayn...@bit.net.au
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vb4q9$93u$3...@hermes.bit.net.au>
Subject: FRAMM
i am searching the FRAMM family in germany early 1800, Franzhagen.
Can anybody help me
thank you
wayne
an aussie
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X-Message: #18
Date: 12 Sep 1997 10:18:16 GMT
From: wayn...@bit.net.au
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vb4t8$93u$4...@hermes.bit.net.au>
Subject: CLASSEN
I am researching the CLASSEN FAMILY , in Siebeichen , Kiel, germany around the
early 1800's.
Can anybody out there help me.
thank you
wayne
an aussie.
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X-Message: #19
Date: 12 Sep 1997 10:12:36 GMT
From: wayn...@bit.net.au
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vb4ik$93u$2...@hermes.bit.net.au>
Subject: Re: reunion genealogy program
In article <34133ade...@news.mindspring.com>, drk...@mindspring.com
says...
>
>I am looking for a copy of Reunion or the demo, all my genealogy data
>is stuck in a copy that got hosed during a recent system crash.
>Please, Please help. I need to extract that data. email me at
>dark...@smart1.net
wayne again , I shall be awaytill moday/tuesday.
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X-Message: #20
Date: 12 Sep 1997 10:11:18 GMT
From: wayn...@bit.net.au
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vb4g6$93u$1...@hermes.bit.net.au>
Subject: Re: reunion genealogy program
In article <34133ade...@news.mindspring.com>, drk...@mindspring.com
says...
>
>I am looking for a copy of Reunion or the demo, all my genealogy data
>is stuck in a copy that got hosed during a recent system crash.
>Please, Please help. I need to extract that data. email me at
>dark...@smart1.net
hi wayne from australia , i have one do you want it still
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X-Message: #21
Date: 12 Sep 1997 10:23:00 GMT
From: wayn...@bit.net.au
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vb564$93u$5...@hermes.bit.net.au>
Subject: GRASSMAN
I am researching the GRASSMANN family in Polssen, Poland inthe early 1800's.
Can anybody help me
thank you
Wayne
an aussie.
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X-Message: #22
Date: 12 Sep 1997 10:24:10 GMT
From: wayn...@bit.net.au
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vb58a$93u$6...@hermes.bit.net.au>
Subject: HELMS
i am researching the HELMS FAMILY in Gerswalde, Germany around the early 1800's.
can anybody out there help me.
thank you
wayne
an aussie
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X-Message: #23
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:09:14 +0100
From: maire...@zetnet.co.uk (Maire Black)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <1997091212...@man-079.dialup.zetnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: MAC PAF 2.31 Temple Ready
church jim <jch...@getthe.net> wrote:
>
> >Bill Perry wrote:
> >>
> >> I am trying to export a Gedcom file for temple ready. It has to be on a
> >> Dos disk some how. I have not found any utility or instructions on how
> >> to make the disk dos formated so that I can put this through temple
> >> ready at the FHC.
> >>
> >> Please help.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Bill
>
> I am not an expert at this but isn't a GEDCOM file ascii? If so wouldn't
> it just go on a disc of any sort? When you buy a disk nowadays they say
> right on it that they are Apple and Dos compatable so wouldn't a GEDCOM
> saved to disc work on any machine?
> Jim
You can buy a PC formatted disk (at your FHC even). On a Mac the icon
shows a PC on it to show that it's PC formatted. The Mac doesn't mind
whether the disk is Mac formatted or PC formatted. You could use all PC
formatted disks in a Mac if you wanted, provided you have the control
panel installed which is (I think) PC exchange, and has come with the
system since system 7.5.
When you put an unformatted disk into the slot on a Mac you get a
message saying: "This disk is unreadable. Do you want to initialise it?"
or something like that. You get a place to put a name for the disk and
a box with a drop-down menu for Format. Format will automatically show
Macintosh 1.4MB. Just change it to DOS 1.4MB. and proceed. It will
warn you that initialising the disk will erase any information on it
before letting you continue.
If you want to change the formatting on an old or formatted Mac disk,
put in the disk, highlight it by clicking once on it, and go to Erase
Disk on the Special menu. A window will come up saying "Completely
erase disk named "whatever" (internal drive)? and you will have the
windows for naming the disk and chosing the format. Then you chose
Cancel or Erase. There are no further warnings, so make sure that the
name of the disk to be erased is the right one and chose 'erase'. Make
sure you are erasing the right disk and DO NOT ERASE YOUR HARD DRIVE.
Maire Black
Scotland
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X-Message: #24
Date: 12 Sep 1997 10:59:08 GMT
From: ja...@fly.cc.fer.hr (Kresimir Blazina)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vb79s$7...@bagan.srce.hr>
Subject: Re: Southampton
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: > Is there somewhere in Germany I can write to for papers on departure from
: > Breman in 1873? Did they have to buy a ticket or get a passport or
: > something?
It's Bremen, not Breman. You could try call the informations and ask for
the Bremen or Bremerhaven archive.
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X-Message: #25
Date: 12 Sep 1997 11:58:16 GMT
From: "Jim Bridges" <jimb...@frontiernet.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbf72$cab57d80$ee8c82d1@default>
Subject: FULLER, Hannah; MA, USA; 1658
Seek proof of ancestry of Hannah FULLER who m. Nicholas BONHAM on 1 Jan
1658 in Barnstable, MA.
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X-Message: #26
Date: 12 Sep 1997 12:21:31 GMT
From: jacob...@aol.com (Jacobugath)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970912122...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Henderson,KY
Kentucky has a death index that is online. I forget where I found it but
I would look for University of Kentucky or simply Kentucky deaths on the web.
What in particular are you looking for? I live near Henderson.
Try the Social Security index at the nearest LDS Family History Center if
the person drew social security.
Jake
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X-Message: #27
Date: 12 Sep 1997 12:15:26 GMT
From: city...@ix.netcom.com (Linda K. Dempsey)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vbbou$b...@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Broderbund and Rootsweb Is this true
>
>>Who at USGENWEB is 'thrilled' to have Broderbund indexing their
sites?
>
That would be me. I spoke by phone with Eric several months ago when we
were concerned that Broderbund had "downloaded" thousands of files. He
explained the technical reasons behind that (and assured me the files
would not be placed on a cd) and their plans to announce a genealogy
search engine. I applauded that type of search engine, but had no idea
that it would cause problems on Rootsweb.
As someone explained, the search engine *points* to the sites that
result from the search, taking the visitor to the server where the file
is stored.
We, at the USGenWeb Archives, are creating a digital library for the
project, and have a search engine in place for the files stored there.
I would like to make one correction to a comment made here. Rootsweb
does not charge subscriptions to access their sites. Memberships are
available, which allow folks certain privileges, but there is no fee to
access information. Their webpages explain the membership privileges.
Linda Lewis
National Coordinator, USGenWeb Archives
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb
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X-Message: #28
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 13:54:35 +0100
From: "Martin N. Dunstan" <m...@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34193B8B...@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Laptop's in research:Mac
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Randrup, Peter & Eleanor wrote:
>
> Likewise, using a Mac Performa 6300 at home, what might someone
> recommend using in the archives while traveling?
See my followup to John's message. My wife and I
both use Psion 3a's in conjunction with a Macintosh
LC 475. Mac compatibility was an important factor
in our choice of palmtop.
You might want to look at Apple Newtons as well
but I would personally recommend a Psion.
Martin
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X-Message: #29
Date: 12 Sep 1997 13:07:35 GMT
From: lady...@aol.com (Ladyhvac)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970912130...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Markings on headstones
Thanks, I will have to go back and see about the dates. I was so
interested in the engraving that I didn't notice ages.
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X-Message: #30
Date: 12 Sep 1997 13:07:34 GMT
From: lady...@aol.com (Ladyhvac)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970912130...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: What county is Springfield, Illinois in?
To all that helped me:
Thanks for the info, now I will be able to send for that birth
certificate. I wanted to share one response I got and the reply I sent back
with everyone. I thought we were all on this newsgroup to ask questions
(silly or not) but I guess I was wrong:
In a message dated 97-09-12 05:25:43 EDT, you write:
<< I usually don't help newcomers, but I need to let off some frustration.
You need to buy an US Atlas map.
County Clerk
Sangamon County
800 E. Mercer St
Springfield, IL 62701-1979
Tel: 217 753-6600
birth records from 1877.
Info from The Handybook for Genealogists. Most libraries and LDS FHC have
this.
Terris 'Terry' C. Howard (tch...@aol.com)
>>
Terri,
I am not a "newcomer" as you put it. I have been researching my genealogy
for 10 years now. I thought this newsgroup was here so we all could help
one another with research that we might not have access to. Sure I could go
buy a atlas or go to the library but I paid alot of money for my computer
so that I could research off of it. If you don't want to help someone out
then don't go to all the trouble of typing up an email and hitting send.
Next time don't even bother to reply.
Annie
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X-Message: #31
Date: 12 Sep 1997 09:14:26 EDT
From: Henry.L...@csource.com (Henry Lanouette)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <874070...@bbs.csource.com>
Subject: F C O R
I've been communicating with the daughter of my first cousin.
That would make her (the daughter) my "first cousin once removed".
Would I also be her ( " " ) "first cousin once removed"?
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X-Message: #32
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 09:14:34 -0400
From: ca...@freenet.carleton.ca (Gordon R Wilkinson)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341940...@freenet.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: 1871 Canadian Census
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Jack Hughes wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me what the occupation "LAB" is which appears for my
> great great grandfather in the 1871 Canadian censes? I'm assuming that
> it is "Laborer" but I'm not sure.
>
> Thank you.
> --
> Jack M. Hughes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . hugh...@erols.com
>
You assumption is correct.
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/i/l/Gordon-R-Wilkinson-Ontario/
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X-Message: #33
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 10:20:30 -0400
From: Sarah and Tracie <p5y...@access1.digex.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970912...@access1.digex.net>
Subject: HITTER
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I'm looking for info on the surname Hitter or any Hitter's that might be
out there lurking. You can post your reply to the newsroup or send me a
message at my email address. Thanks in advance.
-------------------
Sarah Parsons & Tracie Hitter
p5y...@access.digex.net
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X-Message: #34
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 09:53:00 -0500
From: rb...@facstaff.wisc.edu (R.Bull/B.Bauer)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <rbull-ya02368000...@news.doit.wisc.edu>
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paul_bu...@broder.com (Paul Burchfield) wrote:
>
> "Donna Suarez" <dsu...@cts.com> wrote:
> >
> >Is Broderbund going to ask the site owner if it can index their sites
> >before it does it or will the company continue to grab whatever they want
> >without asking?
>
> Do AltaVista, Lycos, and Hotbot seek permission from a site before they
index?
Yes, all three of the above search engines respect a Webmaster's right to
exclude the robots from indexing some (or all) pages of his/her site. The
indexing robots ignore those pages. I don't know whether the AltaVista,
Lycos, and Hotbot robots accomplish this by respecting the Robot Exclusion
Standard or by looking for HTML metainformation tags (probably both), but
the point is that they do it. Broderbund's FamilyFinder indexing robot
apparently does neither. This is certainly not illegal, but it does
violate accepted standards for net behavior.
Brian Bauer
rb...@facstaff.wisc.edu
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 81
Today's Topics:
#1 Re: Broderbund and Rootsweb Is thi [rb...@facstaff.wisc.edu (R.Bull=
=3D
/B.]
#2 Re: Civil war soldier help needed [Ken Jones <kjo...@wizard.tarlet=
=3D
on.]
#3 Re: Immigration Records [Mary...@worldnet.att.net (Mary=
=3D
E.]
#4 Re: World family tree? [Mary...@worldnet.att.net (Mary=
=3D
E.]
#5 Homeopathic Hospital, Rhode Island ["Laine" <tla...@jlc.net>]
#6 Re: New to group!! [just...@aol.com (Just Geo1)]
#7 Re: Where to write in Illinois? [Tom Milke <MIL...@westatpo.wes=
=3D
tat]
#8 List of Variations in Spelling of ["Dermot O'Brien" <joint-venture=
=3D
@wo]
#9 Re: Tired of having no money? [Grahame <gra...@witzend.u-net.=
=3D
com]
#10 Irish American Surname Spelling Va ["Dermot O'Brien" <joint-ventur=
=3D
e@wo]
#11 Re: What county is Springfield, Il [de...@cybertrails.com (Deby)]
#12 Re: 1949 NYC Death Cert -- precise [Cyndy Bates <"cybates "@xtiac.=
=3D
net>]
#13 Re: New York State Newspapers [Cyndy Bates <"cybates "@xtiac.=
=3D
net>]
#14 Re: New York State Newspapers [cwsu...@nr.infi.net (Charles =
=3D
Sull]
#15 Re: What county is Springfield, Il ["Rev. D. Thomas Ford, Jr." <ha=
=3D
gler]
#16 poo ["ANDREW M EDWARDS" <amed@lineo=
=3D
ne.n]
#17 pee-wee man ["ANDREW M EDWARDS" <amed@lineo=
=3D
ne.n]
#18 god ["ANDREW M EDWARDS" <amed@lineo=
=3D
ne.n]
#19 McDowell Newsletter ["ANDREW M EDWARDS" <amed@lineo=
=3D
ne.n]
#20 PJES Carl Johan; MI,USA; 1866- ["Bj=3DF6rn Angantyr" <angantyr=
@s=3D
wipnet]
#21 PJES Carl Johan; MI,USA; 1866- ["Bj=3DF6rn Angantyr" <angantyr=
@s=3D
wipnet]
#22 Hagerman-NJ ["karen" <ms...@thecore.com>]
#23 Rhodes-NJ ["karen" <ms...@thecore.com>]
#24 Re: about 100 pages with genealogi [s...@tref.nl (Bas de Leeuw)]
#25 Re: ? Mac Geneolgy Software [H...@REMOVETHIScarebear.demon.c=
=3D
o.uk]
#26 Re: finding surnames online [Capt&Wendy <capt@frontiernet.n=
=3D
et>]
#27 Durrant [Penny Ling <lingpyke@netcomuk.=
=3D
co.u]
#28 Military terminology [bill...@aol.com (BillBMill)]
#29 Kelly Clan Association ["Dr. Eugene O'Kelly" <aerarann=
=3D
@iol]
#30 Re: poo [kda...@aol.com (KDAD40)]
#31 DUNCAN, HODGES, LINDSEY and more [ci...@airmail.net (Charles)]
#32 genealogy fam. Fransman ["Vincent Fransman" <v.fransman=
=3D
@pla]
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X-Message: #1
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 09:53:11 -0500
From: rb...@facstaff.wisc.edu (R.Bull/B.Bauer)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <rbull-ya02368000...@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Subject: Re: Broderbund and Rootsweb Is this true
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paul_bu...@broder.com (Paul Burchfield) wrote:
>
> I hope you saw the posting entitled Broderbund's Internet FamilyFinder =
that=20
> addressed the concerns raised.=20
> As always, I am happy to answer any questions that arise.
Paul,
The only problem is that you (and Eric Holstege) DID NOT answer many of t=
he
questions raised. Amongst others, the following assertions about
Broderbund's FamilyFinder indexing robot for were left unanswered:
> o Their robot is wildly out of conformance with standard
> robot design, which is why it batters servers so badly.
>=20
> o Their robot ignores robots.txt files, which means there's
> no polite way to keep it out of places where it shouldn't
> be.
>=20
> o They tend to download from sites at peak hours.
>=20
> o There's no privacy mechanism, or way for a Webmaster to ask
> Broderbund to remove links from its database if they've=20
> downloaded inappropriate material.
I don't really care about the anti-FTM vs pro FTM battles that go on here=
,
but I do think you need to address the above concerns. Either convince u=
s
that assertions made by Dr. Brian Leverich of RootsWeb are mistaken, or
reprogram FamilyFinder's indexing robot to conform to accepted internet
standards.
Brian Bauer
rb...@facstaff.wisc.edu
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X-Message: #2
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 09:55:02 -0500
From: Ken Jones <kjo...@wizard.tarleton.edu>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341957...@wizard.tarleton.edu>
Subject: Re: Civil war soldier help needed
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lab...@labels.com wrote:
>=20
> Hello,
>=20
> Are there any pages on the web where I may search civil war
> information? I am searching for the regiment, etc. that my ancestor,
> James Clement Sharman served in. He would have served in Alabama.
>=20
> Thanks for any info.
>=20
> Leah
I don't have a muster roll of the 14th (if that's the regiment he served
in) but I do have a capsule history, and there is a reference to a book
you might be able to borrow on inter-library loan for that unit which
does have a muster roll. My Alabama Regimental Histories page is at:
http://www.tarleton.edu/activities/pages/facultypages/jones/alregts.html
just scroll down and click on the 14th.
Good luck
Ken Jones
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X-Message: #3
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:58:51 GMT
From: Mary...@worldnet.att.net (Mary E. Leek)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341d63aa...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Immigration Records
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On 8 Sep 97 01:12:35 GMT, "John Hrusovszky" <jay...@tznet.com> wrote:
:: Am having a heck of a time attempting to locate a date that 2 ancest=
ors
:: emmigrated to the United States.
:: I don't believe the ship records listserv can help since all we know=
is an
:: APPROX. year, and name of the
:: person and country he lived in prior to coming to the USA. I do hav=
e a
:: copy of "Declaration of Intention"
:: records, but all it lists is the date and the name of the person, al=
ong
:: with the country they lived in prior.
:: What other types of records do we need to locate in order to establi=
sh a
:: date these ancestors actually
:: arrived in the US? Nothing on their death certificate or gravestone=
shows
:: this.
:: =20
:: Thanks in advance.
I haven't checked these books yet, but I'll pass along the title and auth=
or,
on the off chance they might offer some help.=20
The Complete Book of Emigrants (4 vols) by Peter Wilson Coldham
1)New World Immigrants (vol 1 & 2)
2)Immigrants to the Middle Colonies
3)Passengers to America........last three titles by Genealogical Pub Co.
I intend to have a look during the next trip to the library.
All of these books are offered on two genealogical CD's by Broderbund, to=
o.
By reading the library catalog description, as well as the CD description=
s, it
sounds like a good starting point when looking for times and dates of arr=
ival
to US.
Mary=20
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X-Message: #4
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:58:53 GMT
From: Mary...@worldnet.att.net (Mary E. Leek)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341e63e1...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: World family tree?
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On 7 Sep 1997 22:59:51 -0700, gatc...@intersatx.net (Bill Gatchell) wrot=
e:
:: I'm new to genealogy and came across family tree maker's "World fami=
ly
:: tree vol. 2." I had some good results when I did their online search=
,
:: coming up with several matches to known Gatchell's I'm searching.=20
:: I'd like some opinions of users of this software, success, etc.
:: =20
:: Thanks,
:: =20
:: Bill Gatchell
:: San Antonio, TX
:: gatc...@intersatx.net
I've had great success in meeting unknown family by making connections th=
rough
the WFT project.
Mary Fowler Leek
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X-Message: #5
Date: 12 Sep 1997 15:38:20 GMT
From: "Laine" <tla...@jlc.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbf91$4f24b4a0$cf9fc9c7@Ptlaine>
Subject: Homeopathic Hospital, Rhode Island
MIME-Version: 1.0
Hello,
Has anyone heard of or remember the Homeopathic Hospital in Providence,
Rhode Island, that was in existence in 1928?
Thanks,
Laine
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X-Message: #6
Date: 12 Sep 1997 15:48:27 GMT
From: just...@aol.com (Just Geo1)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970912154...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: New to group!!
MIME-Version: 1.0
In article <5v9r6k$s8t$1...@paperboy.ids.net>, Ke...@ids.net (Kevin) writes:
>Hi, I am new to this group and I want to continue the work of another fa=
mily=20
>member,computerize his work and make it grow...which of the NUMEOUS soft=
ware=20
>packages on the shelf do you suggest???? why whynot??
=20
I use Family Origins by Parsons Technology, call 1-800-779-6000 to order
or try http://www.parsonstech.com to download a trial copy!
Jolly Time BBS=20
Just for the Halibut!=20
(206) 244-8108
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X-Message: #7
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:26:30 -0700
From: Tom Milke <MIL...@westatpo.westat.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341997...@westatpo.westat.com>
Subject: Re: Where to write in Illinois?
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Dear All,
Although I generally agree that starting local is better, in the case of=20
Cook County, just the opposite is the case. Transactions through the=20
Illinois State Archives in Springfield is faster, much cheaper, and more=20
likely to get a positive result.
Best regards,
Tom Milke in Maryland
RWilli1380 wrote:
>=20
> Always START in the county where the event occured. Then go to the sta=
te
> vital records. Faster and much cheaper that way.
>=20
> Address for Cook County, Chicago is
> David D Orr 118 North Clark St. Chicago, IL 60602 Send M.O for $7.00.
> I do not have the address for the other two places.
>=20
> Bob
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X-Message: #8
Date: 12 Sep 1997 16:48:07 GMT
From: "Dermot O'Brien" <joint-...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbf9b$aee65ce0$742f74cf@rjiredff>
Subject: List of Variations in Spelling of Irish American Surnames?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Can anyone please tell me if there is a publication or web site that list
the variations in
the spellings of Irish American family names?
One example I have found is Shea/O'Shea/Shay/O'Shee/Se/Shee/Shays. Thanks
for your help.
Dermot O'Brien
joint-...@worldnet.att.net
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X-Message: #9
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 17:56:52 +0000
From: Grahame <gra...@witzend.u-net.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341982...@witzend.u-net.com>
Subject: Re: Tired of having no money?
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Noel wrote:
>=20
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Please don't find my article offensive. Have an
> open mind and read on.
> I apologize to you, and your newsgroup or
> bulletinboard.
>=20
> First of all, IT'S PERFECTLY LEGAL!
>=20
> Second of all, IT MAKES A LOT OF MONEY !
>=20
> And third, you'll hate yourself for not
> discovering it sooner because
> you'll make $50,000.00 and that probably WITHIN
> LESS THAN TWO MONTHS!
>=20
> WHAT IT IS ???
It is probably little more than a load of cobblers but whatever it is it
is not funny and therefore what on earth is it doing on the alt.humor
newsgroup?
Answers please to the dipstick that posted the first message, not me!
>
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X-Message: #10
Date: 12 Sep 1997 17:01:10 GMT
From: "Dermot O'Brien" <joint-...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbf9d$81acfde0$742f74cf@rjiredff>
Subject: Irish American Surname Spelling Variations?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Hello all
Does anyone know of a publication or web site listing the numerous
spellings for Irish American family names?
- e.g.=20
Shea/O'Shea/shay/O'Shee/Se/Shee/Shays
Thanks for your help.
Dermot O'Brien
joint-...@worldnet.att.net
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X-Message: #11
Date: 12 Sep 1997 10:00:49 -0700
From: de...@cybertrails.com (Deby)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <1997091217...@cougar.rand.org>
Subject: Re: What county is Springfield, Illinois in?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Annie;
Don't forget that name and address. It will be the source of a query
someday. :) Unfortunately; too many people think that if they know the
answer to a question-it was a silly question. The whole purpose of these
newsgroups is for us to SHARE our knowledge. Too many newbies are
intimidated by rude responses. My belief is that every person you run of=
f
with rudeness could be one that has a missing piece to your family puzzle.
So, you are limiting yourself and end up getting what you give. Besodes,
what would our descendants think when they start researching and find out
what narrow minded people we were? :)
Good luck in your search. Don't let anyone get you down! :)
Deby
At 01:07 PM 9/12/97 GMT, you wrote:
>To all that helped me:
>
>Thanks for the info, now I will be able to send for that birth
>certificate. I wanted to share one response I got and the reply I sent b=
ack
>with everyone. I thought we were all on this newsgroup to ask questions
>(silly or not) but I guess I was wrong:
>
>In a message dated 97-09-12 05:25:43 EDT, you write:
>
><< I usually don't help newcomers, but I need to let off some frustratio=
n.=20
> You need to buy an US Atlas map.
>=20
> County Clerk
> Sangamon County
> 800 E. Mercer St
> Springfield, IL 62701-1979
>=20
> Tel: 217 753-6600
>=20
> birth records from 1877.
>=20
> Info from The Handybook for Genealogists. Most libraries and LDS FHC h=
ave
> this.
>=20
> Terris 'Terry' C. Howard (tch...@aol.com)
>=20
> >>
>Terri,
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X-Message: #12
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 13:19:16 -0400
From: Cyndy Bates <"cybates "@xtiac.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vbtid$bvb$2...@tabloid.med.iacnet.com>
Subject: Re: 1949 NYC Death Cert -- precise answer needed
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Carl Cason wrote:
> It's interesting how cities in the same state operate so differently. =
I
> requested a 1907 death certificate from the City of Albany (N.Y.) and
> received it in just over one week. It was stamped "FOR GENEALOGY ONLY"=
,
> which I had stated in the request because it cost $4.00 less that way.
Part of the reason you got it so easily is because the certificate in
question was issued more than 75 years ago. And keep in mind the number
of NYC records is huge compared to Albany.=20
In addition to writing smaller NY cities directly, I've also had good
luck writing County seats. They also offer fast turnarounds.
--=20
To reply replace at with @ and remove x from xtiac.net.
Researching Bates, Blizniak/Bliznik, Breckenridge, Finnie,=20
Fox, Hinsdill, Howard, Immen/von Immen, Kelsey, Laughley,=20
Lee, Milen/Milon, Moore, Singewald, Waters, Williams, Wolfe.
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X-Message: #13
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 13:24:30 -0400
From: Cyndy Bates <"cybates "@xtiac.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vbts6$bvb$3...@tabloid.med.iacnet.com>
Subject: Re: New York State Newspapers
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derry dubetsky wrote:
> My question is: does anyone know of a site with listings of microfilms
> of New York State news-
> papers?
The Web site for the New York State library has a listing of NYS
newspapers. You can look by paper title or county of publication.
http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/
The NYSL also has some indexes to vital records mentioned in some
papers. You can Telnet into their online library catalog to search it.
telnet://nysl.nysed.gov
NYSL is located in Albany, NY, if you get a chance to drive up there.
--=20
To reply replace at with @ and remove x from xtiac.net.
Researching Bates, Blizniak/Bliznik, Breckenridge, Finnie,=20
Fox, Hinsdill, Howard, Immen/von Immen, Kelsey, Laughley,=20
Lee, Milen/Milon, Moore, Singewald, Waters, Williams, Wolfe.
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X-Message: #14
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 97 18:18:25 GMT
From: cwsu...@nr.infi.net (Charles Sullivan)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vc11h$b6o...@nr.infi.net>
Subject: Re: New York State Newspapers
MIME-Version: 1.0
del...@webtv.net (derry dubetsky) wrote:
>As a novice in genealogy, I've read thru many
>microfilms of local (Mid Hudson Valley) news-
>papers with limited success. However, many
>dates -- and newspapers-- are missing.
>
>My question is: does anyone know of a site with listings of microfilms
>of New York State news-
>papers?
<snip>
I see a posted reponse to your query has provided the website of the
NY State Library. A more extensive list of newspaper microfilms and the
repositories thereof will be found in the multivolume hardbound Library=20
of Congress publication "Newspapers in Microform". This is available at =
=20
most university and large public libraries with a microfilm department.
Most of the microfilms themselves are available via Interlibrary Loan
at your library from repositories which hold them . (A notable exception=
=20
is the NY Public Library which does not loan out their newspaper =20
microfilms.)
Regards,
Charles Sullivan
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X-Message: #15
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 13:26:56 -0500
From: "Rev. D. Thomas Ford, Jr." <hag...@qni.com>
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I think it is Sangamon.
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X-Message: #16
Date: 12 Sep 1997 19:05:31 GMT
From: "ANDREW M EDWARDS" <am...@lineone.net>
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Subject: poo
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pooooooooooooo
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X-Message: #17
Date: 12 Sep 1997 19:04:15 GMT
From: "ANDREW M EDWARDS" <am...@lineone.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: pee-wee man
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Gay Man
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X-Message: #18
Date: 12 Sep 1997 19:08:23 GMT
From: "ANDREW M EDWARDS" <am...@lineone.net>
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Subject: god
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gay bucket blocker
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Date: 12 Sep 1997 19:10:38 GMT
From: "ANDREW M EDWARDS" <am...@lineone.net>
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Subject: McDowell Newsletter
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Poo-Poo
Wee-Wee
Gay bucket blocker
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X-Message: #20
Date: 12 Sep 1997 19:23:07 GMT
From: "Bj=F6rn Angantyr" <anga...@swipnet.se>
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PJES Carl Johan; MI,USA; 1866-
Is there anyone who can help me where a family called "Pjes" are.
They came too USA 1891 and lived probebly in a town called Negaunee in
Michigan.
We can=3DB4t find them anywhere.
Many greetings from
Bj=3DF6rn Angantyr
Sweden
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anga...@swipnet.se
http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-48927/
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From: "Bj=F6rn Angantyr" <anga...@swipnet.se>
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PJES Carl Johan; MI,USA; 1866-
Is there anyone who can help me where a family called "Pjes" are.
They came too USA 1891 and lived probebly in a town called Negaunee in
Michigan.
We can=3DB4t find them anywhere.
Many greetings from
Bj=3DF6rn Angantyr
Sweden
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anga...@swipnet.se
http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-48927/
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X-Message: #22
Date: 12 Sep 1997 19:45:30 GMT
From: "karen" <ms...@thecore.com>
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Subject: Hagerman-NJ
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Researching Hagerman from around South River NJ.
Karen Ford
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X-Message: #23
Date: 12 Sep 1997 19:43:56 GMT
From: "karen" <ms...@thecore.com>
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Subject: Rhodes-NJ
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Researching Rhodes from around Monmouth, Middlesex and Monroe Counties.
Karen Ford
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X-Message: #24
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 19:56:31 GMT
From: s...@tref.nl (Bas de Leeuw)
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Subject: Re: about 100 pages with genealogical and historical links
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Fantastische prestatie, Theo!!!
Veel mensen waarderen wat je doet!
Dat blijkt wel uit de talloze kijkers op je Website!
Bas de Leeuw
On Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:11:35 +0200, "Theo Strik" <tst...@caiw.nl>
wrote:
Cuijk The Netherlands
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X-Message: #25
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 21:02:52 +0100
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Subject: Re: ? Mac Geneolgy Software
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Is that http:/www.hyperdrive.com/ ???
In article <Holly_Sul...@elric.maximumaccess.com>,
Holly_S...@elric.maximumaccess.com (Holly Sullivan) wrote:
! > I'm presently trying out GENE 4.2 . I'm happy with it so far.
!=20
! Thanks for the tip! (lurking Mac owner)
!=20
! > For Mac software I try "http://www.download.com/
! > I've done quite well from there !!
!=20
! I find lots more stuff at the Mac software hyperarchive though.
! download.com is a nice setup, but they don't get all the new stuff in t=
here
! like the hyperarchive does. =20
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! -- Via DLG2000 v1.2.3
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! FunAmigaSysopPaganSexGoddessQuiltArtistSCACostumerAtLarge=20
! BBS 619 549-0278 http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/4201
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X-Message: #26
Date: 12 Sep 1997 20:08:41 GMT
From: Capt&Wendy <ca...@frontiernet.net>
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looks like you need to add a /www. before members
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X-Message: #27
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 21:19:35 +0100
From: Penny Ling <ling...@netcomuk.co.uk>
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Subject: Durrant
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I'm doing a bit of research for someone who contacted
me by snail mail regarding DURRANT if anyone recognises
the family let me know, and if Paul gets this
do you recognise it?
1)Thomas Durrant m. Mary Ann
2)William Durrant m Rosina (Rosener) Maria Briten in 1846
the married Sarah Ann Jenkins in 1850
3)John Durrant b 2/11/1852
married Ann Maria Batley in 1873
They were recorded at Pockthorpe Norwich, Norfolk, England=20
but they moved around quite a lot.
Also she says the name Durrant is in the Huguenot name book
Please respond to email address
Penny Ling
ling...@netcomuk.co.uk
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X-Message: #28
Date: 12 Sep 1997 20:22:44 GMT
From: bill...@aol.com (BillBMill)
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Subject: Military terminology
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I have recently received my great grandfather's naval personnel records.=20
He was only 15 years old when he enlisted with his mother's permission as
an apprentice. Nine months later he was discharged. The cause of dischar=
ge
is "Bur. Nav." in one place and "Undesirable Bur." in another place. Wha=
t
does this mean?
I wonder who was the one discharging? My ggrandfather, or the Navy?
Thanks for any insight you may have on this.
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X-Message: #29
Date: 12 Sep 1997 21:25:33 GMT
From: "Dr. Eugene O'Kelly" <aera...@iol.ie>
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Subject: Kelly Clan Association
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Have a look at this site for Kellys, O'Kellys, kelleys and O'Ceallaighs
http://www.iol.ie/~kellycln/
Eugene O'Kelly
Membership
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X-Message: #30
Date: 12 Sep 1997 20:49:51 GMT
From: kda...@aol.com (KDAD40)
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Subject: Re: poo
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Andrew M. Edwards (am...@lineone.net) said:
>pooooooooooooo
Get a life, Andy, or go to another newsgroup. Please.
Reg Pitts
KDA...@aol.com
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X-Message: #31
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 22:55:35 GMT
From: ci...@airmail.net (Charles)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: DUNCAN, HODGES, LINDSEY and more
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Duncan, Hodges, Lindsey, Gallaway, Stokes, and many more surnames at
my home page:
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/9011
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X-Message: #32
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 21:54:20 +0200
From: "Vincent Fransman" <v.fra...@planetinternet.be>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Hi,
my name is Vincent Fransman. At the moment I am making a book of genealog=
=3D
y
of the family Fransman. As there aren't that much Fransman's on the world=
=3D
I
suppose they are all related to eachother. I discovered two branches: one
from Belgium and one from the Netherland (But I haven't a proove that tho=
=3D
se
two branches aren't related to eacheother, neather I know if the opposite=
=3D
is
true). Therefore I'am collecting a smuch information as possible abouth t=
=3D
he
person's Fransman. Let me give you some idee wath I reached yet with my
resurche:
1.. The first Fransman I can relate to the family (hte Belgium one) is
Fransman Jan. The onlyest thing I know is that he got a son Christoffel a=
=3D
nd
had already a feudal estate in 1435, around Melsele, Waesmunster and Base=
=3D
l
(located in Belgium). These lands where later given to his grandson. He
probably came to Belgium in duty for France, from where the name Fransman
(Fransman=3D3D dutch for Frenchman)
2.. His son Christoffel worked for the duke of Bourgogne(France), and
got also a son, Jan.
3.. Jan maried Cathelijne Maes. They lived in Gent (Belgium) and got =
=3D
one
son Jacob. They had also the estate of his grandfather.
4.. Jacob maried Van Male Margriete. He died 12-8-1505, buried in the
chaple of Sint-Macaire (Belgium) (This is verry acurate for that period;
this means that the family was important in that time). He got seven
children, where one son Willem.
5.. Willem maried Margreite Sanders. He studied lawyer and came in th=
=3D
e
politics. He got two feudal estates for his services from Francois van
Pottelsberghe. They got five children, wherefrom tree sons; Jan, Willem a=
=3D
nd
Berthelmeeus. He died the 15-7-1545.
Wa skip some generations to keep it schorter: (we get into the 14
generation).
a.. Fransman Edmond-Alexandre, =3DB06-9-1837, +5-6-1882. Lived in Leaken
(Belgium), was juge and alderman. His name is given to a street in Laken
(Belgium).
b.. Fransman Marie-Alodie, maried to Mr. Jean-Vorneille De Cooman. Ha=
=3D
d a
company. They had two children and lived in Ninove (Belgium).
c.. Fransman Marie-Clotilde, maried Mr Charles van Melckebeke. He was=
=3D
an
alderman, got decorated in the order of Leopold. They got four children.
d.. Fransman Delphine-Marie-Clothilde-Eleuth=3DE9rie, got maried to M=
r
vander Smissen. He had a brewery. They got four children.
e.. Fransman Adeline-Marie-Anne-Cyprienne, got maried with Mr. Eug=3D=
E8=3D
ne
Jacobs. Children??
f.. Fransman Odilon-Jean-Martial, =3DB01-7-1841, +21-10-1888, maried =
Ma=3D
rie
Th=3DE9r=3DE8se Van Acker. They got Seven children, where one doughter an=
d si=3D
x
sons.
g.. Jean-Charles-Sylvain, =3DB021-7-1869, +27-1-1944.
h.. Hubert-Victor-Hippolyte, =3DB03-11-1871, +22-2-1872.
i.. Hubert-Henri-Cl=3DE9ment, =3DB03-11-1872, +18-5-1931.
j.. Victor-Hippolyte-Urbain, =3DB025-5-1874, +10-2-1875.
k.. Joseph-Marie-Alfred-Honor=3DE9, =3DB024-6-1875, +6-6-1915.
l.. Louis-Edouard-Camille-Marie, =3DB018-7-1878, +25-12-1973.
m.. Fransman Honor=3DE9e-Elise-Micheline, maried Mr. Hendrick. Go=
t =3D
four
doughters.
n.. Fransman Ir=3DE8ne-Ang=3DE9lique-Cyriaque, got maried to Mr. Mega=
nck.=3D
They
didn't hade children.
o.. Fransman Aim=3DE9-Benoit-L=3DE9andre, maried to Esther-Cl=3DE9men=
tine D=3D
e
Merlier. He got decorated with 'La croix pro ecclsia et pontifice'. They =
=3D
got
ten children, where two sons.
p.. Charles-Th=3DE9odore-Marie-Joseph, =3DB015-3-1874, +27-12-1890.
q.. Henri-Joseph-Corneille-Magne, =3DB01-2-1889, +20-5-1971.
r.. Fransman Palmyre-Prudence-F=3DE9licit=3DE9, maried Mr. van Bl=
adel.
Didn't got children.
s.. Fransman Henri-Josse-Maur, =3DB015-1-1850 in Ninove. No informati=
on=3D
???
t.. Fransman Zo=3DE9-Madeleine-Ad=3DE9la=3DEFde, maried to Mr. De Mer=
lier.
Children??
u.. Fransman L=3DE9on-Charles-Odilon, maried to Marie-Catherine-Emile
Meuwissen. (Is my grand, grand father) Got one son.
v.. Karel-Aim=3DE9-Jean-Marie, =3DB020-6-1902, +25-12-1986.
This is only a very small part of the information I already have, but it
gives an idee. Every person I try to find as much information as possible
relevant to a book that tells the history of the family; this means every
date, living-places, jobs, ... and ofcourse pictures, bhirthday-cards,
mariagecards, funuralcards, ... . If you think you have useful informatio=
=3D
n
for this book, please send me by E-mail: ar...@planetinternet.be or by pos=
=3D
t
to:
Vincent Fransman, Langensteenweg 51, 1785 Merchtem, Belgium.
The book will be made in FileMakerPro 3.0, and can be send to you on requ=
=3D
est
by E-maill.
The most usefull information are cards of evenements and grafical
information( foto's of the person, the house, ...).
Thanks , and hopefully to a good relationschip in the future.
Vincent Fransman.
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 82
Today's Topics:
#1 Re: Surviving The Millenium [Just Ade <ad...@netcomuk.co.uk>]
#2 Re: Surviving The Millenium [Just Ade <ad...@netcomuk.co.uk>]
#3 Re: Immigration Records [pats...@aol.com (Patsina55)]
#4 Re: New to group!! ["P. van den Oetelaar" <pvdoetel@in]
#5 Re: FTM CD 7 lookup please [Jerry & Deb Plasek <Jerryp@navixno]
#6 Churnetski,Gill family: ["Frank J. Churnetski" <churnfj@blu]
#7 Re: Immigration Records [Jerry & Deb Plasek <Jerryp@navixno]
#8 Re: reunion genealogy program ["William R. Behymer" <wbehymer@igl]
#9 MARKIN> OH ["Roger Lloyd" <rll...@tstonramp.co]
#10 Re: German sons naming customs? [fowl...@pinkinc.com (R. W. Fowler]
#11 Re: LLOYD> TN, MO 1844- ["Roger Lloyd" <rll...@tstonramp.co]
#12 Re: WHALEY> VA, KY, MO ["Roger Lloyd" <rll...@tstonramp.co]
#13 Oregon Phone Directory Look-up [Linda <mons...@swbell.net>]
#14 Re: Military terminology [elbr...@worldnet.att.net (Jim Elb]
#15 Creelsboro [Jim <jam...@erols.com>]
#16 Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFi [cou...@kos.net (Claude G. Ouimet)]
#17 Re: All send in and conplain!!! Br [b...@melbpc.org.au (Brian Nye)]
#18 Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFi [b...@melbpc.org.au (Brian Nye)]
#19 Getting access to restricted recor [debb...@juno.com (Debbe Nye)]
#20 Re: Laptop's in research ["Martin N. Dunstan" <m...@dcs.st-an]
#21 Genealogy research assistance [smnh...@delphi.com]
#22 Re: 1949 NYC Death Cert -- precise [bwic...@pipeline.com (Brian Wickh]
#23 Steamship Praetoria? [ps...@po.cwru.edu]
#24 LA MOTT/GRINER/ENDSLEY [jro...@orednet.org (Jean Rotter)]
#25 1920 census abbreviations [Sharon Brearey <sbre...@philly.in]
#26 Foubert - Canada - webpage questio [rea...@xs4all.nl (Liz Exton)]
#27 Re: Immigration Records [**bob...@ma.ultranet.com** (Bob Bo]
#28 Re: MAC PAF 2.31 Temple Ready [bw...@altamaha.net (Bill Williams)]
#29 Re: Military terminology [tecg...@aol.com (Tecgranny)]
#30 Genealogy software ["Darlene Beaver" <beavertd@brighto]
#31 WALL [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
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X-Message: #1
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 22:01:20 +0100
From: Just Ade <ad...@netcomuk.co.uk>
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Ive read some shit in my time but this left me very sad for the state of =
the Human
Race. For Christ sake, save your pounds or dollars or whatever and buy a =
six pack
instead ;=AC)
Just Ade.
> Angela Meade wrote:
> >
> > Surviving The Millenium
> >
> > A Handbook for the Survival of the Inner Self
> >
> > Learn the secrets of making it into the next century without =
a mental
> > or metaphysical meltdown.
> >
> > Learn the simple steps to meditation and a renewel of the spi=
rit.
> >
> > Simple, easy to read; no degrees needed
> >
> > Learn how to change your life and understand some of the stra=
nge
> > patterns in your life and how to change them.
> >
> > Send $12.95 plus $3.00 shipping to:
> >
> > Light Millenium Press
> > P.O. Box 395
> > Hurley, Ms 39555
>
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X-Message: #2
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 22:09:47 +0100
From: Just Ade <ad...@netcomuk.co.uk>
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Just Ade wrote:
> Ive read some shit in my time but this left me very sad for the state o=
f the Human
> Race. For Christ sake, save your pounds or dollars or whatever and buy =
a six pack
> instead ;=AC) - Or even better, by an ounce and twist on up!
>
> Just Ade.
>
> > Angela Meade wrote: <I'm not posting this shit again - <SNIP!>
> > >
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X-Message: #3
Date: 12 Sep 1997 21:26:25 GMT
From: pats...@aol.com (Patsina55)
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Subject: Re: Immigration Records
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Do you know if they had children, and if so, whether or not the children
were born in the USA? That may help to pinpoint their dates of arrival.
While researching my own family tree, I learned that women didn't have to
become naturalized until 1890 or so (not sure why not), so you may only be
able to find records on male ancestors before that date. Good luck in your
search.
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X-Message: #4
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 23:49:29 +0200
From: "P. van den Oetelaar" <pvdo...@inter.NL.net>
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Kevin wrote:
>
> Hi, I am new to this group and I want to continue the work of another family
> member,computerize his work and make it grow...which of the NUMEOUS software
> packages on the shelf do you suggest???? why whynot??
>
> Kevin
Kevin,
I've been using a program that offers much more than a simple database
managing. It gives you also the power of publishing and graphically
depicting your family tree. The programm is called PRO-GEN. Originally
it is Dutch but an English version is also available. More information
(in English) can be found on their home page:
http://home.pi.net/~progen/home.html
Greetings,
Piet.
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X-Message: #5
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 05:18:41 -0700
From: Jerry & Deb Plasek <Jer...@navixnospam.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: FTM CD 7 lookup please
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Doug Page wrote:
>
> Can some one that has the Family Tree Maker CD # 7 look up Nehemiah Page
> for me and tell me if it has his parents and siblings listed? Also if it
> tells who submitted the info? I have his decendents (most anyway) but I
> haven't been able to locate any other info.
Below is an URL of a helplist where people do lookups on CDs
http://www.seidata.com/~lhoffman/cdlist.html
Jerry Plasek
Researching PLASEK, ROLENC, HLADKY, FUCIK
Remove nospam from email Address to reply
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Date: 12 Sep 1997 22:19:45 GMT
From: "Frank J. Churnetski" <chu...@bluegrass.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbfd3$3e28d7c0$fb3154ce@pbcustomer>
Subject: Churnetski,Gill family:
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Looking for information on the families above. Location at Warrior Run,
Askam,or Hanover Township in Pennsylvania. Location is near Wilkes Barre.
Frank < chu...@bluegrass.net
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 05:28:32 -0700
From: Jerry & Deb Plasek <Jer...@navixnospam.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Immigration Records
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Patsina55 wrote:
>
> Do you know if they had children, and if so, whether or not the children
> were born in the USA? That may help to pinpoint their dates of arrival.
> While researching my own family tree, I learned that women didn't have to
> become naturalized until 1890 or so (not sure why not), so you may only be
> able to find records on male ancestors before that date. Good luck in your
> search.
He has a very good point. It was the same way with me. The Immigration
records of my gggrandfather had nothing on it. But one of is sons was
born over seas and he didn't apply for immigration until he was thirty.
and his immigration papers were full of information.
What is the "the ship records listserv"????
Jerry Plasek
--
Researching PLASEK, ROLENC, HLADKY, FUCIK
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X-Message: #8
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 22:26:09 GMT
From: "William R. Behymer" <wbeh...@iglou.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: reunion genealogy program
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wayn...@bit.net.au wrote:
>
> In article <34133ade...@news.mindspring.com>, drk...@mindspring.com
> says...
> >
> >I am looking for a copy of Reunion or the demo, all my genealogy data
> >is stuck in a copy that got hosed during a recent system crash.
> >Please, Please help. I need to extract that data. email me at
> >dark...@smart1.net
>
> wayne again , I shall be awaytill moday/tuesday.
You can download a demo version of Reunion from Leister Production's
website at http://www.leisterpro.com/
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William R. Behymer Internet: wbeh...@iglou.com
West Chester, OH Compuserve: wbehymer
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X-Message: #9
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:57:05 -0700
From: "Roger Lloyd" <rll...@tstonramp.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vchca$4ja$1...@madmax.keyway.net>
Subject: MARKIN> OH
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http://www.geocities.com/heartland/meadows/7476
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X-Message: #10
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 14:52:53 -0400
From: fowl...@pinkinc.com (R. W. Fowler)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <34198f...@pinkinc.com>
Subject: Re: German sons naming customs?
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I doubt it holds true in all cases, but in my case,
paternal grandfather Virgil Eugene Fowler
maternal grandfather Walter Albert Braunlin
father Robert Ernest Fowler
My own name comes from father and maternal grandfather,
Robert Walter Fowler. My next brother's name comes from
paternal grandfather and father, Virgil Ernest Fowler.
A similar sort of things was done by my mother's
brother regarding naming his male children, though my mother's
brother is Walter Albert Braunlin, Junior. However, Walters
and Alberts abound among the Braunlins.
--
R W Fowler <fowl...@pinkinc.com>
On 5 Sep 1997, "Ron Bauerle" <bau...@erie.ge.com> wrote:
> Somebody on the KNISLEY mailing list referred to "The German naming
> custom of naming the first two boys after their Grandfathers."
>
> Is there anything to this? I don't remember seeing any such pattern
> in my own German ancestors, but will take another look...
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X-Message: #11
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:48:52 -0700
From: "Roger Lloyd" <rll...@tstonramp.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vch1r$48r$1...@madmax.keyway.net>
Subject: Re: LLOYD> TN, MO 1844-
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http://www.geocities.com/heartland/meadows/7476
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X-Message: #12
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:49:26 -0700
From: "Roger Lloyd" <rll...@tstonramp.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vch25$48r$2...@madmax.keyway.net>
Subject: Re: WHALEY> VA, KY, MO
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http://www.geocities.com/heartland/meadows/7476
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X-Message: #13
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 18:41:27 -0500
From: Linda <mons...@swbell.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Oregon Phone Directory Look-up
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Hi,
I was wondering if some kind person that has a directory for Seaside,
Oregon would do an address look-up for me. It's for my sister, I have
her number but she's NEVER home without an answering machine so I
thought I would write.
Her name is: Cindy & Ken Woods
TIA,
Linda
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X-Message: #14
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 23:05:37 GMT
From: elbr...@worldnet.att.net (Jim Elbrecht)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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bill...@aol.com (BillBMill) wrote about this; Military terminology:
> I have recently received my great grandfather's naval personnel records.
> He was only 15 years old when he enlisted with his mother's permission as
> an apprentice. Nine months later he was discharged. The cause of discharge
> is "Bur. Nav." in one place and "Undesirable Bur." in another place. What
> does this mean?
Off hand those abreviations don't ring a bell-- but if you give the
branch of service, the year(about), and the country-- someone might be
better able to assist.
jim
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 20:12:01 -0700
From: Jim <jam...@erols.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341A04...@erols.com>
Subject: Creelsboro
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Anybody out there with ancestors, starting early 1800's, who came from
Creelsboro, KY? Give me a "shout" if you do.
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X-Message: #16
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 21:42:45 GMT
From: cou...@kos.net (Claude G. Ouimet)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3419b726...@news.kosone.com>
Subject: Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFinder (was Broderbund and RootsWeb)
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Start with FTM's Home Page at http:\\WWW.FAMILYTREEMAKER.COM
On Thu, 11 Sep 1997 06:32:38 LOCAL, jswi...@borg.com (John S.
Wilkinson) wrote:
>OK, where can I access the Internet Family Finder
>
>
>
>In article <5v7i0i$klt$1...@ha2.rdc1.sfba.home.com> paul_bu...@broder.com
>(Paul Burchfield) writes:>From: paul_bu...@broder.com (Paul Burchfield)
>>Subject: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFinder (was Broderbund and RootsWeb)
>>Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 01:35:08 GMT
>
>>I'm posting this on behalf of Eric Holstege who is the Vice President of
>>Online Business for the Banner Blue division of Broderbund Software.
>
>>Sincerely,
>>Paul Burchfield
>>Broderbund Software,
>>Banner Blue division
>
>________________cut_______________________cut___________
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X-Message: #17
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 00:32:59 GMT
From: b...@melbpc.org.au (Brian Nye)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3419dde6...@news.melbpc.org.au>
Subject: Re: All send in and conplain!!! Broderbund and Rootsweb
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Hi,
I think there is a misapprehension going on here. Broderbund, even if
they have an errant robot, is only creating links to a site. They are
not grabbing all details off a site.
If you are going to complain about that then you would have to
complain about Hotbot, Alta Vista, Lycos et al. Robots gathering links
is a basic and most usefull part of the Internet. Otherwise we would
not be able to find anything.
Regards
Brian Nye
>>
>> >I was thinking about opening my own page and placing my genealogy there,
>> >now I don't think I will. What a mess!!! Can't we have any thing that
>> >greedy people will leave alone. Seems like this would be against the
>> >rules!!! Or is there any rules!! Apparently not or else this would or
>> >could not be done. Well some one needs to make some regarding this, but
>> >not against all of us hard working researchers from getting what records
>> >we need to further our own research.
>>
>> >Have a nice night
>>
>> >Cathy in Oregon
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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 00:38:00 GMT
From: b...@melbpc.org.au (Brian Nye)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3419df56...@news.melbpc.org.au>
Subject: Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFinder (was Broderbund and RootsWeb)
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Hi,
I think there is a misapprehension going on here. Broderbund, even if
they have an errant robot, is only creating links to a site. They are
not grabbing all details off a site.
If you are going to complain about that then you would have to
complain about Hotbot, Alta Vista, Lycos et al. Robots gathering links
is a basic and most usefull part of the Internet. Otherwise we would
not be able to find anything.
I do not believe any of the search engine companies ask permission
before indexing a site. If you did not want your site indexed, for
example, then you you would not put it on the Internet.
Regards
Brian Nye
"Donna Suarez" <dsu...@cts.com> wrote:
>Wes,
>
>Thanks very much for the information. Its clear that Broderbund's actions
>were wrong in this instance. The company should be asking permission
>before it indexes a site.
>
>The people behind Rootsweb have devoted long hours and considerable money
>to offer the Rootsweb surname database, mailing lists and other features.
>Rootsweb has a nominal subscription to defray their costs. If Broderbund
>'takes' the Rootsweb databases and puts them in the FTM page, there would
>be no incentive for anyone to visit the Rootsweb site thus diminishing the
>Rootswebs ability to attract subscribers and to continue their efforts.
>
>--
>Donna Suarez
>E-mail: dsu...@cts.com
>Webpage: http://www.users.cts.com/sd/d/dsuarez
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X-Message: #19
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 00:51:24 GMT
From: debb...@juno.com (Debbe Nye)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vcobe$u...@camel12.mindspring.com>
Subject: Getting access to restricted records (in Tewksbury, Mass.)
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Hi again,
Since I've received several emails suggesting I post the location,
here goes.
I was denied access to a 1911 death record by the town clerk in
Tewksbury, Massachussetts. If this matters, I believe the death
could have been for an illegitimate baby born earlier in the year (so
there may have been some type of adoption proceedings in process). If
that were the case, I would understand why a birth record would be
sealed, but not a death.
Thanks again.
>Debbe Nye wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> In response to my request for a 1911 death certificate of a possible
>> ancestor, I received a letter saying the record is restricted to
>> "proper judicial order, upon the request of the parent, attorney,
>> guardian or conservator."
>>
>> This confused me, so I called the town clerk to ask why this would be
>> still in effect for a 86 year-old death record when any parents,
>> guardians, etc. would have been dead years ago. I was told that only
>> way I could get a copy would be wait until 2011.
>>
>> Since I'm sure others have run across this in your research, any
>> suggestions? Also, why might a death record be restricted?
>>
>> Thanks!
debbe
debb...@juno.com
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X-Message: #20
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 16:40:59 +0100
From: "Martin N. Dunstan" <m...@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3418110B...@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Laptop's in research
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John wrote:
>
> A few have mmentioned palmtops, especially the Psion. Can someone give
> me some information on its capabilities. I would be interested in
> record keeping, word processing but ultimately I would need to
> transfer information back to my desktop (IBM PC using Win95 and TMG
> genealogy software, as well as Office).
For more information on the Psion palmtops have a look at
the FAQ:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/8130/faq.htm
The Psion 3a and 3c can connect to a wide range of machines
although PC's and Apple Macs are the most common. Some people
use them with Amigas, Archimedes and even UNIX machines. I
find it rather comical to think that you can NFS mount a
1 or 2Mb Psion onto a machine with Gbs of hard disk space ;)
I can't comment for other palmtops (the above FAQ compares
a few others) but the Psion 3a comes with several built-in
applications including a Word processor (RTF import/export),
Database, Agenda/diary and Spreadsheet (Excel compatible).
It also has a built-in programming language which is very
powerful and excellent for prototyping in.
*grin* Ever seen these offers where a shop will buy
back your sofa for the original selling price if you
return it to their store exactly 5 years from the time
you purchased it? Well you can set an alarm on your palmtop
and get reminded to return your sofa to benefit from it ;)
PC users have the benefit of a transfer package which
allows automatic conversion between Psion files and some
PC files. Programs to synchronize Windows calendar managers
and Psion also exist. Mac users get a program to copy files
to and from the Psion but need to perform any conversions
themselves (eg save MSWord files as RTF before copying them
onto the Psion etc).
One reason I got a Psion rather than some other palmtop
was that it would talk to our Macintosh ;)
With regard to genealogy - my wife designed a family
tree browser which I implemented. It is intended to be
a portable companion to your desktop genealogy program
such as Reunion/TMG. My wife manages to fit about 4000
individuals into about 300K:
http://www-theory.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~mnd/export/geni/manual.html
There are two other (freeware) genealogy programs
for the Psion - KGene and Gedfried. I can provide their
URL's if anyone wants them (don't have them at hand just
now) or just do a Web search.
Martin
P.S. Oh and you CAN touch type on a palmtop!
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X-Message: #21
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 20:21:52 -0600
From: smnh...@delphi.com
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <8741135...@dejanews.com>
Subject: Genealogy research assistance
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If you don't have time, expertise or facilities
to do all of your own research, please see
<http://people.delphi.com/smnhenry> for information
about reasonably priced, comprehensive, professional
research with references available. Also see the
new InStock service we've added.
Thank you.
Sally Henry
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X-Message: #22
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 01:34:30 GMT
From: bwic...@pipeline.com (Brian Wickham)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3419ec6d...@news.pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: 1949 NYC Death Cert -- precise answer needed
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Carl Cason <cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>
>> Brian Wickham wrote:
>> > I got my grandfather's death certificate from Dec 1949. I would
>> > suggest you spell out your relationship to the decedant on the form.
>> > Avoid the word 'genealogy'. Use something like 'establish > > parentage'.
>
>It's interesting how cities in the same state operate so differently. I
>requested a 1907 death certificate from the City of Albany (N.Y.) and
>received it in just over one week. It was stamped "FOR GENEALOGY ONLY",
>which I had stated in the request because it cost $4.00 less that way.
>
>--
>Carl Cason, of Bothell, Washington
Carl,
The difference is yours was for 1907 and mine was for 1949. The 1949
records in NYC have not been transferred to the archives yet as they
are still covered by confidentiality. That's why they under the
control of the Dept. of Health and not the Municipal Archives. So
they are only released for acceptable legal reasons at this point.
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X-Message: #23
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 20:36:19 -0600
From: ps...@po.cwru.edu
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Steamship Praetoria?
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Can anyone give me info regarding the steamship my grandfather emigrated
on? His naturalization record lists it as Praetoria in one place and
Proctoria in another. He sailed out of Hamburg, Ger on or about June 24,
1904 into the port of NY. My goal is to find his passenger manifest and
also get a picture of the ship. Thanks. Pam Skrzypczak Lechner
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X-Message: #24
Date: 11 Sep 1997 23:37:46 GMT
From: jro...@orednet.org (Jean Rotter)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5v9vca$5...@ednet2.orednet.org>
Subject: LA MOTT/GRINER/ENDSLEY
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Looking for info on Jessie LaMott, b in 1901 on Indian Reservation in
Spokane, Washington area. Adopted at age 6 by Griner family, of LaMesa,
Idaho. First husband Endsley, daughter Geneva b 1919 in Idaho. Jessie
changed name to Jacqueline Lenore Griner. Thanks in advance
Jean Rotter
--
Rainbow Enterprises Publisher The Rainbow
P.O. Box 310 Of Curt Comments
Yachats, OR 97498-0310 WCS News Rotter Gravure
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X-Message: #25
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 21:05:59 -0400
From: Sharon Brearey <sbre...@philly.infi.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Hi, folks!
Sorry if this has been asked before, but does anyone know what
the abbreviation "OC" stands for in "place of birth"? In the case
of my great grandparents, they were born in Austria, but their
parents' birthplaces are listed as "OC" (at least it _looks_ like
OC). There were other people listed on this page with that same
abbreviation, and the "mother tongue" of all is Yiddish.
Thanks,
--
Sharon Brearey -- Philadelphia, PA <sbre...@philly.infi.net>
Searching: SWERSKY, Suwalki, (?) / LAMM, Vienna, Austria
ATLAS, Budapest, Hungary / BOBRITSKY --> FRANKEL, White Russia
(Belarus?)
SALTZMAN, Soviet Georgia
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X-Message: #26
Date: 12 Sep 1997 18:35:07 -0700
From: rea...@xs4all.nl (Liz Exton)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vcqkb$5...@bl-5.rootsweb.com>
Subject: Foubert - Canada - webpage question???
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Who owns http://206.153.225.6/HTML/d0003/g0000191.htm#I1?
I would like to get in touch with whoever put this page up because I
am working on a link with the Foubert family of Canada.
Liz Exton
li...@bigfoot.com
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X-Message: #27
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 22:03:39 -0500
From: **bob...@ma.ultranet.com** (Bob Bowers)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <**boblex-1209...@d240.b64.cmb.ma.ultra.net>
Subject: Re: Immigration Records
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In article <19970912212...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
pats...@aol.com (Patsina55) wrote:
> Do you know if they had children, and if so, whether or not the children
> were born in the USA? That may help to pinpoint their dates of arrival.
> While researching my own family tree, I learned that women didn't have to
> become naturalized until 1890 or so (not sure why not), so you may only be
> able to find records on male ancestors before that date. Good luck in your
> search.
The reason to become naturalized was to be able to vote. Women could not
vote until the 1920s therefore had no reason to become naturalized.
Bob Bowers
--
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Lexington, MA, USA
bob...@ma.ultranet.com
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X-Message: #28
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 22:03:50 -0400
From: bw...@altamaha.net (Bill Williams)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <1997091222...@max1-7.altamaha.net>
Subject: Re: MAC PAF 2.31 Temple Ready
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Maire Black <maire...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> If you want to change the formatting on an old or formatted Mac disk,
> put in the disk, highlight it by clicking once on it, and go to Erase
> Disk on the Special menu. A window will come up saying "Completely
> erase disk named "whatever" (internal drive)? and you will have the
> windows for naming the disk and chosing the format. Then you chose
> Cancel or Erase. There are no further warnings, so make sure that the
> name of the disk to be erased is the right one and chose 'erase'. Make
> sure you are erasing the right disk and DO NOT ERASE YOUR HARD DRIVE.
A) The Mac system won't let you erase the boot drive.
2) When formatting a floppy for use on a Wintel machine, unless you
=know= that it can handle long names it's best to stick with the 8.3
format; i.e., SOMENAM.TXT.
--
Selah!
BWms
bw...@altamaha.net
bill_w...@atlmug.org
-= I almost had a psychic girlfriend, but she left me before we met =-
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X-Message: #29
Date: 13 Sep 1997 02:13:32 GMT
From: tecg...@aol.com (Tecgranny)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970913021...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Military terminology
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This might mean that he had a potential problem with an ankle or a wrist.
Bur. Nav. might mean he had a bursa (a sac) slipping out from the end of a
navicular bone, which a dictionary tells me we have in our wrists and ankles.
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X-Message: #30
Date: 13 Sep 1997 03:32:50 GMT
From: "Darlene Beaver" <beav...@brightok.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbff5$887fc960$22621ece@beavertd>
Subject: Genealogy software
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There are so many different types of software packages available. Can
someone tell me if there is a common format that will work on the majority
of them? I would like to put my research on the computer and also to pass
it along to the LDS for their records. I only want to input it once, and
have a easy working end product.
All help would be appreciated. Thanks, Darlene (beav...@brightok.net)
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X-Message: #31
Date: 13 Sep 1997 04:12:52 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970913041...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: WALL
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I am looking for any information on the WALL surname.
Please see "My Surnames" homepage for the information that I currently have at
http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/kerby.html
Thank you for any and all help, Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 83
Today's Topics:
#1 WILLENBORG [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
#2 KERBY [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
#3 PLACE [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
#4 CADLE [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
#5 BRAMLAGE [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
#6 KNOPP [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
#7 TO ALL WHO... [alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)]
#8 Jenkinson in Quebec? [Todd & Jamie Armstrong <armstron@y]
#9 Re: FTM CD 7 lookup please ["Tracky" <tra...@hotmail.com>]
#10 AGTERBOSCH/KERVER; NLD ;1937-1997 [Cris Agterbosch <c.agterbosch@pi.n]
#11 Re: Getting access to restricted r [kla...@nobots.telusplanet.net (Ke]
#12 Re: What county is Springfield, Il ["Lisa Schreurs" <lisasch@outeast.c]
#13 information ["roy and shelley" <macktodd@bellso]
#14 Rensfeldt, Robert in Falconer,Chat [Tommy Andersson <zabo...@hem1.pas]
#15 Re: Seeking The Family Tree Magazi [Diane Jarvie <di...@accessin.com..]
#16 MAKE 40,000.00 OUT OF $6 !!! [Michael Reit <re...@singnet.com.sg]
#17 Re: FTM has 80% of the market??? [jo...@juno.com (Jonas)]
#18 Re: McDowell Newsletter [Gene...@media1.net (Eugene F. Vog]
#19 The Hurst Nation [hhu...@delaware.infi.net]
#20 WOMBWEll [anvil <an...@clara.net>]
#21 Re: Homeopathic Hospital, Rhode Is [aro...@aol.com (AROCMAE)]
#22 Re: Genealogy software ["Virgil M. Jarrett" <friday@gbso.n]
#23 Jones - Research - PA ["Ann" <a...@thegiftshow.com>]
#24 Re: Genealogical Relationship term [mary stewart kyritsis <mkyritsi@ho]
#25 Re: Civil war soldier help needed [mary stewart kyritsis <mkyritsi@ho]
#26 Barnhart, Maryland, Mid 1700's ["Michael A. Barnhart" <barnhart@im]
#27 Barnhart, David; Ohio late 1700's ["Michael A. Barnhart" <barnhart@im]
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X-Message: #1
Date: 13 Sep 1997 04:12:30 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970913041...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: WILLENBORG
I am looking for any information on the WILLENBORG surname.
Please see "My Surnames" homepage for the information that I currently have at
http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/kerby.html
Thank you for any and all help, Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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X-Message: #2
Date: 13 Sep 1997 04:13:34 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970913041...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: KERBY
I am looking for any information on the KERBY surname.
Please see "My Surnames" homepage for the information that I currently have at
http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/kerby.html
Thank you for any and all help, Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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X-Message: #3
Date: 13 Sep 1997 04:13:54 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970913041...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: PLACE
I am looking for any information on the PLACE surname.
Please see "My Surnames" homepage for the information that I currently have at
http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/kerby.html
Thank you for any and all help, Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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X-Message: #4
Date: 13 Sep 1997 04:13:13 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970913041...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: CADLE
I am looking for any information on the CADLE surname.
Please see "My Surnames" homepage for the information that I currently have at
http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/kerby.html
Thank you for any and all help, Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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X-Message: #5
Date: 13 Sep 1997 04:14:21 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970913041...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: BRAMLAGE
I am looking for any information on the BRAMLAGE surname.
Please see "My Surnames" homepage for the information that I currently have at
http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/kerby.html
Thank you for any and all help, Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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X-Message: #6
Date: 13 Sep 1997 04:16:33 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970913041...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: KNOPP
I am looking for any information on the KNOPP surname.
Please see "My Surnames" homepage for the information that I currently have at
http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/kerby.html
Thank you for any and all help, Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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X-Message: #7
Date: 13 Sep 1997 04:16:12 GMT
From: alk...@aol.com (Alkmom)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970913041...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: TO ALL WHO...
To the many responses that I have received to my posts for additional
information on various surnames (Cadle, Hall, Wall, Kerby, Willenborg,
Mason, etc.) I thank you so very much.
The responses were overwhelming but please know that I appreciate all of
the incoming information!!!
I will be using this weekend to answer/reply to each post directly.
Hoping to find distant relatives... Rhonda
Email is alk...@aol.com
homepage is http://members.tripod.com/~schropp/rhonda.html
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X-Message: #8
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 23:00:44 -0700
From: Todd & Jamie Armstrong <arms...@yankton.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341A2C...@yankton.com>
Subject: Jenkinson in Quebec?
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I am trying to locate some Jenkinsons in or around Sherbrooke, Quebec.
My aunt has informed me that we moved from there in the 1800's and that
is all she knows, can anyone help me find records from there?
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X-Message: #9
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 00:25:42 -0500
From: "Tracky" <tra...@hotmail.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc005$44f66860$7798...@tlwilson.HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: FTM CD 7 lookup please
Check out the following page for all kinds of cd
look up volunteers. Please, read & follow the
rules at the top of the page.
http://www.seidata.com/~lhoffman/cdlist.html
Good Luck,
T
Doug Page <dp...@earthlink.net> wrote in article
<3418C7...@earthlink.net>...
: Can some one that has the Family Tree Maker CD
# 7 look up Nehemiah Page
: for me and tell me if it has his parents and
siblings listed? Also if it
: tells who submitted the info? I have his
decendents (most anyway) but I
: haven't been able to locate any other info.
: Thanks
: Doug Page
: --
: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * * * * * * *
: Check out my home page for cards to help you
complete your sets.
: http://home.earthlink.net/~dpage/
:
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X-Message: #10
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 07:45:09 -0700
From: Cris Agterbosch <c.agte...@pi.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341AA6...@pi.net>
Subject: AGTERBOSCH/KERVER; NLD ;1937-1997
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My parents, mr Agterbosch and mrs Kerver, will be married 60 years on the
23rd of october 1997.
The have married in the Netherlands on the 23rd of october 1937 in the
city of Enschede.
I would like it very much if congratulations would come from all over the
world from people with the same name.
The names have been variously written as Agterbosch,Agterbos,
Achterbosch, Achterbos, Kerver and Kervers, bur research has proved that
anybody with one of these names is most probably a relative of us.
If you wish to know more about these names or if you can tell me more
about these names, espacially if you live in a foreign country, you can
contact me by E-Mail.
Yours sincerely,
C.A.M. Agterbosch
My E-Mail number is c.agte...@pi.net
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X-Message: #11
Date: 13 Sep 1997 06:03:33 GMT
From: kla...@nobots.telusplanet.net (Kevin Lambie)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vdabl$3...@priv-sys04-le0.agt.net>
Subject: Re: Getting access to restricted records?
In article <5v4t6r$1...@camel15.mindspring.com>, debb...@juno.com says...
>
>Hi everyone,
>
>In response to my request for a 1911 death certificate of a possible
>ancestor, I received a letter saying the record is restricted to
>"proper judicial order, upon the request of the parent, attorney,
>guardian or conservator."
>
>This confused me, so I called the town clerk to ask why this would be
>still in effect for a 86 year-old death record when any parents,
>guardians, etc. would have been dead years ago. I was told that only
>way I could get a copy would be wait until 2011.
>
>Since I'm sure others have run across this in your research, any
>suggestions? Also, why might a death record be restricted?
>
>Thanks!
>debbe
>
>debbe
>
>debb...@juno.com
>
I once had success by writing to them that the fact of a person's death is
public information, while the circumstances of that death may not be.
Suggest that they blank the cause of death if that is the problem. This is
done as a matter of course in some Canadian provinces.
--
Kevin Lambie
KLa...@nobots.telusplanet.net
Remove NOBOTS for email
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X-Message: #12
Date: 13 Sep 97 06:25:54 GMT
From: "Lisa Schreurs" <lis...@outeast.cyberspace.net.au>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc00d$eb773fe0$0fd91fcb@sldksbcr>
Subject: Re: What county is Springfield, Illinois in?
USA
Lisa
Rev. D. Thomas Ford, Jr. <hag...@qni.com> wrote in article
<34198970...@qni.com>...
> I think it is Sangamon.
>
>
>
>
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X-Message: #13
Date: 12 Sep 1997 13:18:50 GMT
From: "roy and shelley" <mack...@bellsouth.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbf7e$8f06bfe0$a248...@MACKTODD.BELLSOUTH.NET>
Subject: information
I'm new at all of this, the computer and the genealogy so please bear with
me.
I am Leroy A. Mack Jr,
my father is Leroy A. Mack, he was born and raised in New York
his mother is Margret (Mackey) Mack, living in Long Island, NY.
she was born in Va. on a reservation as far as we know.
his father, Mack is deceased but was from the Charlston, SC area.
this is where I am looking for some help, Mack's father was John Patrick
Mack, I understand he owned a harness shop in the Charlston, SC area. I
am trying to find his parents, and his wifes family line. I have reason to
believe John Patrick's wife may have been an American Indian.
Thank you for any help you can provide.
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X-Message: #14
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 12:26:42 +0200
From: Tommy Andersson <zabo...@hem1.passagen.se>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341A6A62...@hem1.passagen.se>
Subject: Rensfeldt, Robert in Falconer,Chatauqua,NY
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Hi,
Need to have all information about Robert Rensfeldt who died July 1977
in Falconer,Chatauqua,NY. He was born in Raanea,Sweden Januar 9 1895.
Also need all info about his wife and children. In return I can give his
ancestors back to 1650.
TIA Tommy
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X-Message: #15
Date: 13 Sep 97 10:36:49 GMT
From: Diane Jarvie <di...@accessin.com..au>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341a6cc1.0@cactus>
Subject: Re: Seeking The Family Tree Magazine of UK address/telephone #
fsm...@mhv.net writes: >
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for the current address and telephone number of the
> Family Tree Magazine in the UK. I am interested in subscribing and
> possibly speaking to the advertising department about the placement of
> an ad.
>
> The magazine does have a web page at
> http://www.kitecom.co.uk/genealog/family.html
> but no regular mail or phone contact information is provided. I have
> attempted twice to email to them via the page and not received an
> answer.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Frederick E. Smith
>
> Email: fsm...@mhv.net
>
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X-Message: #16
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 17:20:26 +0800
From: Michael Reit <re...@singnet.com.sg>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341A5ADA...@singnet.com.sg>
Subject: MAKE 40,000.00 OUT OF $6 !!!
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How can you make $40,000.000 out of $6 ?
Easy,you have a shot at this program..
When I read these kind of messages at first,I thought,this is scam,I'm
not doing that.. I thought you'd end up losing 6 dollars and getting nothing
back ! That's not true ! I tried this and I ended up in a financial collapse
!!
Read the story below and follow the instructions !! IT IS PERFECTLY
LEGAL !
>Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about
the
legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Post Office
(1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal!
Then I invested the measly $6.00............
WELL GUESS WHAT!!.... within 7 days, I started getting money in the
mail I was shocked! I still figured it would end soon, and didnÕt
give it
another thought. But the money just kept coming in. in my first week,
I made about $20.00 to $30.00 dollars. By the end of the second
week I had made a total of over $1,000.00!!!!!! In the third week I had
over
$10,000.00 and itÕs still growing. this is now my fourth week
and I have made a total of just over $42,000.00 and its still coming
in rapidly......
Its certainly worth $6.00, and 6 stamps , I spent more than
that on the lottery!!
Let me tell you how it works and most importantly, why it works...
also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get
the
information off of it as you need it. the process is very simple and
consists of 3 easy steps:
Step 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each
piece of paper ÒPLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING Ò
get 6 $ 1.00
dollar bills (or equivalent in your currency) and place ONE inside
EACH of
the 6 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope
to prevent thievery. Next, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes
and seal them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes,each with a piece
of paper stating the above phrase and a $1.00 dollar bill. What
you are doing is creating a service by this.
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL
Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses:
#1 Scott Carmichael
1640 Worcester Rd. #411D
Framingham, MA 01702
#2 Jodi Meyer
W1028 Aster Rd.
Genoa City, WI 53128
#3 Randy Leonard
8137 misty ln.
Murfreesboro, TN 37129-8160
USA
#4 Steve Moen
152 Rodney court.
Madison,WI 53715
#5 Jonas Gorila
Rua Dra.Cristina Torres, 65 - 1%14F
3080 FIGUEIRA DA FOZ
PORTUGAL
#6 Michael Reit
8 Binjai Walk
589741
SINGAPORE
STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the
other names up (6 becomes 5,5 becomes 4,etc...) and add YOUR
NAME as number 6 on the list.
STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as
close to
the original as possible.Now post your amended article to at
least
200 newsgroups.(I think there are close to 24,000 groups) All
you need is
200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you make.
Don't know HOW to post in newsgroups? Well do exactly the following:
FOR NETSCAPE USERS:
1) Click on any newsgroup, like normal. Then click on TO NEWS
which
is in the top left corner of the newsgroup page. This will
bring up a
message box.
2) Fill in the SUBJECT with a flashy title,like the one I used, something
that catches the eye!
3) Now go to the message box part of the box and retype this letter
exactly
as it is here,with exception of your few changes.(REMEMBER to add your
name to number 6 and move the rest up.)
4) When your done typing in the whole letter,click on FILE above the
send
button. Then,SAVE AS.....DO NOT SEND YOUR ARTICLE UNTIL YOU SAVED IT!!
So you dont have to type this 200 times.:-)
5) Now that you have saved this letter, go ahead and send your first
copy!
(click the send button in the top left corner)
6) THIS IS WHERE YOU POST ALL 200!!!!!!,OK,go to any newsgroup article
and
click the TO NEWS button again. Type in your
FLASHY subject
in the SUBJECT BOX, then go to the message and place your cursor
here,
Now click on the ATTACHMENT which is right below the SUBJECT BOX.
Click on attach file then find your letter wherever you saved it. Click
once on your file, then click OPEN then click OK. If you did this right,
you should see your file name in the ATTACH BOX and it will be
shaded.
NOW POST AWAY.
IF YOU USING INTERNET EXPLORER:
Its just as easy.holding down the left mouse button, highlight
this entire
article,then press the CTRL key and C key at the same time to
copy this
article, Then print the article for your records to have the name of
those you will be sending $1.00 to.
NEXT
Go to the newsgroup and press POST AN ARTICLE type in your flashy subject
as click the large window below. Press CTRL and V and the article
will
appear in the message window.*** BE SURE TO MAKE YOUR ADDRESS
CHANGES
TO THE 6 NAMES***Now rehighlight the article and re-copy it so you
can have
the changes.......then all you have to do for each newsgroup
is CTRL and
V and press POST. Its that easy!!!
THATS IT!!!!! All you have to do is jump to different newsgroups and
post
away. After you get the hang of it, it takes about 30 sec. for each
newsgroup!
**REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE
MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200**
Thats it! you will begin receiving money from around the world
with in days! you may eventually want to rent a P.O. Box due to the large amount
of mail you
receive. if you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use,
as long as
the postman will deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.**
Now the WHY part:
Out of 200 postings, say I get only 5 replies (a very low example).
So
then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now, each of the
5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make
the MINIMUM 200 postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5
persons
respond to each of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now
thoughs 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and
only
5 replies each, I will bring in an additional $125.00!
Now, thoughs 125 persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with
my name at #3
and only 5 replies each, I will make an additional $625.00! OK, now
here
is the fun part,
each of thoughs 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my
name at #2 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00!! Those
3,125 persons will all
deliver this message to 200 newsgroups with my name at #1 and
if still 5
persons per
200 newsgroups react I will receive 15,625.00! with a original
investment
of only $6.00!
AMAZING! And as I said 5 responses is actually VERY LOW! Average is
probable 20
to 30! So lets put those figures at just 15 responses per person.
Here is
what you will make:
at #6 $15.00
at #5 $225.00
at #4 $3,375.00
at #3 $50,625.00
at #2 $759,375.00
at #1 $11,390,625.00
When your name is no longer on the list,you just take the latest
posting in the newsgroups, and send another $6.00 to the names
on that list, and put your name at number 6 again. And start
posting again. The thing to remember is, do you realize that thousands
of people all over the world are joining the internet every day and
reading articles like these everday.JUST LIKE YOU ARE NOW!!!
so can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works?? I think so.....
Make sure you print this article out RIGHT NOW,also. Try to keep a list
of everyone that sends you money and always keep an eye on the newsgroups
to make sure everyone is playing fairly!!! REMEMBER, HONESTY IS THE
BEST
POLICY. You dont need to cheat the basic idea is to make money!!!!!
Good Luck to all and please play fairly and reap the HUGE rewards
from this,which is tons of extra CASH .
By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting this message with
your name in the list and not sending the money to the rest of the
people on the list, you WIIL NOT GET AS MUCH!!! Someone I talked
to knew
someone who did that and he only made about $150.00,and thats after
seven or eight weeks! Then he sent the 6 $1.00 bills,people added him
to their list, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10k. This is the
fairest
and most honest way I have ever seen to share the wealth of the world
without costing anything but our time!!!! You may also want to buy
mailing and E-mail list for future dollars.
Please remember to declare your extra income. Thanks once again.....
IS THIS TRUE OR WHAT?
At least .... give a try, ok?
Michael
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X-Message: #17
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 10:58:37 GMT
From: jo...@juno.com (Jonas)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341a712c...@news.dol.net>
Subject: Re: FTM has 80% of the market???
On Thu, 11 Sep 1997 21:24:01 -0700, Bob Glaubitz <blgla...@isle.net>
wrote:
>>> My, aren't we a superior being. tsk, tsk.
>
Apparently.
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X-Message: #18
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 11:59:38 GMT
From: Gene...@media1.net (Eugene F. Vogt)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341a7fd...@news.ne.mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: McDowell Newsletter
Did we get a new toy recently?
Use alt.test for your testing, please.
On 12 Sep 1997 19:04:15 GMT, in alt.genealogy you wrote:
>Gay Man
On 12 Sep 1997 19:05:31 GMT, in alt.genealogy you wrote:
>pooooooooooooo
On 12 Sep 1997 19:08:23 GMT, in alt.genealogy you wrote:
>gay bucket blocker
On 12 Sep 1997 19:10:38 GMT, "ANDREW M EDWARDS" <am...@lineone.net>
wrote:
>Poo-Poo
>Wee-Wee
>Gay bucket blocker
Gene Vogt
Woburn MA
Auto-Email-Address-Scooper-foiler:
My listed email address is wrong. To send email,
change the digit (1) to the spelled-out numeral (one) . . . .
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X-Message: #19
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 07:21:20 -0600
From: hhu...@delaware.infi.net
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <8741511...@dejanews.com>
Subject: The Hurst Nation
Do a Yahoo search on "the hurst nation" to find an interesting link to
Hursts in Tennessee. They mention some Hursts who migrated west.
-------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
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X-Message: #20
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 97 13:06:37 GMT
From: anvil <an...@clara.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <970913130637....@mail.clara.net>
Subject: WOMBWEll
Can anyone help me with any details of George Wombwell, he of the famous 19th
century menargeries and
circuses. He was born near Saffron Walden, Essex, England.
If you have any details of his relatives who remained in this area, especially a
connection between him and a
Mr. Charles Wombwell (born in Clavering, Essex) who married a lady called Jane,
I would be interested to hear
from you.
You can e-mail me at ma...@anvil.clara.net or
an...@clara.net
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X-Message: #21
Date: 13 Sep 1997 13:21:49 GMT
From: aro...@aol.com (AROCMAE)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970913132...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Homeopathic Hospital, Rhode Island
You asked: "...Homeopathic Hospital in Providence,
Rhode Island, that was in existence in 1928?"
Sorry, I don't know about this one, but there was one in Pgh. about that
same time ---ny gGrandfather died there.
What is a Homeopathic Hospital anyway?
Cora; OTT Family Newsletter Editor
aro...@aol.com
Researching: OTT; KLINKNER; WEBER; SIMON; EICHLER; BOHR;WEYEL/WILD(s);
COPELAND; ---all from Western PA. area
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X-Message: #22
Date: 13 Sep 97 13:28:23 GMT
From: "Virgil M. Jarrett" <fri...@gbso.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341a9...@n5.gbso.net>
Subject: Re: Genealogy software
"Darlene Beaver" <beav...@brightok.net> writes: > There are so many different types of software packages available. Can
> someone tell me if there is a common format that will work on the majority
> of them? I would like to put my research on the computer and also to pass
> it along to the LDS for their records. I only want to input it once, and
> have a easy working end product.
>
> All help would be appreciated. Thanks, Darlene (beav...@brightok.net)
Most genealogy programs use the "gedcom" format as a standard way to pass
data between them....All genealogy programs will have different formats
or different looks or real usablility about them. Make sure the one you
select has all the data fields you want and need. I personally have used
"BrothersKeeper" a shareware program for the last 5 years. I have looked
at many others. This one works for me. I have the registered version at
about $50 dollars. There are many that cost much more..The Mormon church
PAF "Personal Ancestral File" program is cheap and will do the job. Many
people use it. One I don't like is the "Family Tree Maker" by Broderbund
software.....it has no place to put the data on where an individual is
buried....at least as far as I could see. Some like it have many nice
features.
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X-Message: #23
Date: 13 Sep 1997 13:39:58 GMT
From: "Ann" <a...@thegiftshow.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcbf8e$7372dce0$b697b8cd@scary-one>
Subject: Jones - Research - PA
Hi There,
I am doing research on the Jones surname in PA inorder to
find some sort of a record on my grandmother who was born
Anna Alfreda Jones - April 10, 1892, unfortunately I have found
nothing todate and would appreciate any help that is out there.
Does anyone have access to city directories or anything else
that may help from this area. I would be more than happy to
check Florida records for someone in return for there help.
Thanks kindly,
Ann
P.S. We (think) my grandmother was born in Johnstown,
however, one relative thought Pittsburg.
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X-Message: #24
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 16:30:06 +0300
From: mary stewart kyritsis <mkyr...@hol.gr>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341A95...@hol.gr>
Subject: Re: Genealogical Relationship terms
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Jerret Michael Sherenco wrote:
>
> Could someone explain the classification schemes for genealogical relationships? Everyone
> understands the easy ones: mother, father, brother, aunt, uncle, etc. However, I'm trying
> to figure out what the difference beween third cousin and third cousin once removed!
> I've created a family tree program, and I want to be able to click on two names and have
> their relationship to each other displayed, no matter how distant. I guess I just need
> the basic "algorithm" or scheme that is used. Thanks!
>
> --Jerret Sherenco
> sher...@umich.edu
The difference between third cousin and third cousin once removed is
easy -- the 'once removed' cousin is the child of the third cousin.
It's the other bits and pieces that get complicated!!!! :-)
Mary
mkyr...@hol.gr
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X-Message: #25
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 16:33:15 +0300
From: mary stewart kyritsis <mkyr...@hol.gr>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341A96...@hol.gr>
Subject: Re: Civil war soldier help needed
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Christer Hamre wrote:
>
> lab...@labels.com wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Are there any pages on the web where I may search civil war
> > information? I am searching for the regiment, etc. that my ancestor,
> > James Clement Sharman served in. He would have served in Alabama.
> >
> > Thanks for any info.
> >
> > Leah
>
> --
> Hi.
>
> I sent you an email (lab...@labels.com) answer, but it came back
> directly, I had enclosed my civil war bookmarks, too.
>
> Any suggestions ?
>
> My Very Best Regards
> Christer
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> E-mail: mailto:christe...@mbox200.swipnet.se
> URL: http://home1.swipnet.se/~w-13626 (UPDATED 97-08-30)
> Gothenburg, Sweden
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Try Cyndi: http://www.oz.net/~cyndihow/sites.htm
It has everything.
Mary
mkyr...@hol.gr
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X-Message: #26
Date: 13 Sep 1997 13:46:40 GMT
From: "Michael A. Barnhart" <barn...@imagin.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc04c$08b728c0$2de412cf@barnhart>
Subject: Barnhart, Maryland, Mid 1700's
My family stories have a brother to my Daniel Sr. immigrating with him in
1749 and settling in Maryland. I have no name and the date is not firm.
If anyone has a possible match please drop me a line.
Michael A. Barnhart
barn...@imagin.net
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X-Message: #27
Date: 13 Sep 1997 13:44:17 GMT
From: "Michael A. Barnhart" <barn...@imagin.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc04b$b37fab20$2de412cf@barnhart>
Subject: Barnhart, David; Ohio late 1700's
Family stories have a brother to my Daniel going to Ohio. To match Daniel's
move to VA this would be after 1770 and probably no later that 1790 (both
dates open). Does anyone have a possible match?
Michael A. Barnhart
Barn...@imagin.net
http://www.imagin.net/~barnhart
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 85
Today's Topics:
#1 Re: Steamship Praetoria? ["paul.petersen" <paul.petersen@wor]
#2 Re: Military terminology [ggor...@aol.com (GGordon1)]
#3 BEDDOW; WV > MO > God only knows. [noel...@aol.com (Noelellen)]
#4 Re: WALL ["paul.petersen" <paul.petersen@wor]
#5 Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFi [Fritz Steckler <fritz@universal-ne]
#6 Re: McDowell Newsletter [jmi...@learninglink.org (Jean Mill]
#7 FAMILY TREES [m.tu...@ukonline.co.uk (Maurice ]
#8 Sammis [bobs...@aol.com (BOBSLED46)]
#9 SOMOL, JANGEL [bobs...@aol.com (BOBSLED46)]
#10 FTM 4.0 online - Help please [Robert Warren <rbwa...@ix.netcom.]
#11 certification for Genealogists [mor...@best.com (sunshine)]
#12 Buda Foundry IL. [rad...@aol.com (RADRAY5)]
#13 Re: New York State Newspapers [rad...@aol.com (RADRAY5)]
#14 Re: Seeking The Family Tree Magazi [norry <n.pe...@virgin.net>]
#15 Re: German sons naming customs? [jem...@ds2.ncweb.com (Jane Mahlig)]
#16 Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFi [rb...@facstaff.wisc.edu (R.Bull/B.]
#17 Re: Locke Roots [locke...@aol.com (LOCKEroots)]
#18 Re: New to group!! [beerdl@[REMOVE.NO.SPAM]kos.net]
#19 Where is Newton, Northern Ireland? [c.mo...@direct.ca (carole d. morg]
#20 Riper, Rieper or Van Riper ["Ton" <ton.s...@tip.nl>]
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X-Message: #1
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 11:49:52 -0300
From: "paul.petersen" <paul.p...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Taken from: National Archives And Records Administration
Passenger Lists
NATF Form 81 may be obtained by sending an email
request to;<inq...@arch2.nara.gov> be sure to include
your mailing address.
Passport Applications
10
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http://www.ins.usdoj.gov/forms/index.html
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Jon Aspinwall; JON...@worldnet.att.net
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X-Message: #2
Date: 13 Sep 1997 15:50:36 GMT
From: ggor...@aol.com (GGordon1)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970913155...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Military terminology
>
>bill...@aol.com (BillBMill) wrote about this; Military terminology:
>
>> I have recently received my great grandfather's naval personnel records.
>> He was only 15 years old when he enlisted with his mother's permission as
>> an apprentice. Nine months later he was discharged. The cause of
>discharge
>> is "Bur. Nav." in one place and "Undesirable Bur." in another place. What
>> does this mean?
>
> Off hand those abreviations don't ring a bell-- but if you give the
>branch of service, the year(about), and the country-- someone might be
>better able to assist.
>
>jim
As former Navy it sounds like "BUR NAV" is the for runner of the now
"BUPERS" or Bureau of Personal so I would think it means that he was
discharged under "Undesirable" conditions by order of the Naval Bureau of
Personal. The undesirable conditions could mean any number of things tho.
Without actualy looking at the records I couldnt tell you. What I would do
is take them to a Navy Recruiter or the Veterans assistance officer at the
VFW or American Legion they can interpet them for you.
Gary
Searching GORDON in Nova Scotia
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X-Message: #3
Date: 13 Sep 1997 15:53:12 GMT
From: noel...@aol.com (Noelellen)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970913155...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: BEDDOW; WV > MO > God only knows.
John Beddow b 1861 Wheeling m. Hannah Griffith b Tunnel OH in Huntsville
MO 1880. Who were John's parents?
Are you a descendant? This is purely for information. My line:
John d 1941
Edward William b 1883; m Harriet Esther Evans 1919 d 1953
Edward William b 1923; m Ruth Ann Johnson 1944 d 1981
Noel Ellen Beddow b 1952 not dead as of today...
I know reticence (?) runs in the family. But, you have nothing to gain
but relatives who are as reticent are you are!
cheers,
Noel Beddow Marcy
Noel...@aol.com
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X-Message: #4
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 11:54:33 -0300
From: "paul.petersen" <paul.p...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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> I am looking for any information on the WALL surname.
> Thank you for any and all help, Rhonda
charles wall in florida is a big gen. person...sorry i lost his email
addr...try dejanews or peopleSearch he's in st.pete as i recall...:)
i hope this helps....:)
Cheers, Paul
*** Providing Connecticut Document Services ***
attn: paul petersen 35 Birch Street Manchester, CT 06040
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X-Message: #5
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 08:59:02 -0700
From: Fritz Steckler <fr...@universal-net.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341AB845...@universal-net.com>
Subject: Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFinder (was Broderbund and RootsWeb)
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The first thing that popped into my mind after reading the first posting
I go to was the Broderbund was getting information to sell. My
impression was also swayed by my understanding of the WFT cd's
copyright.
( Which my understanding is if you send information to them
and they put it on the cd you cannot publish it or give it to anyone
else. If I am wrong pleas let me know.)
If Broderbund is doing this as a service all the better, but I am still
concerned about later ramifications of such a venture.
Sometimes it is hard to believe that someone or some company is trying
to do a free service for the public when the company is in business to
make money. I think that is part of the reason why people are so upset
by the situation(sp).
Thanks for your time and please let me know if I have misinterpreted the
copyright issue.
Laurie Steckler
Part-time family researcher, Full time consumer
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X-Message: #6
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 20:39:41 GMT
From: jmi...@learninglink.org (Jean Mills)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341ab...@198.78.178.6>
Subject: Re: McDowell Newsletter
"ANDREW M EDWARDS" <am...@lineone.net> wrote:
>Poo-Poo
>Wee-Wee
>Gay bucket blocker
I don't understand. What is Poo-Poo, Wee-Wee, etc.
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X-Message: #7
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 16:40:04 GMT
From: m.tu...@ukonline.co.uk (Maurice Turner)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341ac173...@news.ukonline.co.uk>
Subject: FAMILY TREES
I am looking for a program that will allow me to show my family tree
graphically on my web page. Can anyone help
Maurice Turner
Turners of Hertfordshire
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/m.turner3/
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X-Message: #8
Date: 13 Sep 1997 16:45:48 GMT
From: bobs...@aol.com (BOBSLED46)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970913164...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Sammis
I am researching my family name, Sammis, and would appreciate hearing from
anyone who could help me. My family is from Long Island, NY but I would
like info on anyone who has the Sammis surname. Email me at
BOBS...@aol.com. Thanks. Bob Sammis
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X-Message: #9
Date: 13 Sep 1997 16:49:49 GMT
From: bobs...@aol.com (BOBSLED46)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970913164...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: SOMOL, JANGEL
I am researching the surnames Somol and Jangel. They are the names of my
maternal grandparents but I have been having a hard time finding anyone
with info on these names. Both families are from Czechoslovakia. Any
information I could get would truly be appreciated. Email me at
BOBS...@aol.com Thanks, Bob Sammis
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X-Message: #10
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 12:57:18 -0400
From: Robert Warren <rbwa...@ix.netcom.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341AC5EE...@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: FTM 4.0 online - Help please
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I have messed up big time with ftm 4.0 online. I can not set up my web
page. I have been able to put reports online but cannot delete them. I
have tried everything including reinstalling ftm. It started with ftm
not being able to find my netscape browser during setup. I was able to
change the ini file to get around that setup problem. I have even tried
remarking out the ID. My browser is netscape communicator 4.02 under
windows 95. Netcom is my ISP at 28.8. How can I get a fresh start.
Thanks,
Bob Warren
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X-Message: #11
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 16:57:59 GMT
From: mor...@best.com (sunshine)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341ac51c...@nntp.best.com>
Subject: certification for Genealogists
Does anyone know where to apply to be certified, and how much it is?
please send replies to morni...@msn.com
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X-Message: #12
Date: 13 Sep 1997 17:05:43 GMT
From: rad...@aol.com (RADRAY5)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970913170...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Buda Foundry IL.
Hi
I am looking for information on the Buda Foundry in Buda IL around the
turn of the century. My G Gr. father worked there and I am looking for any
information. Thanks.
Chris
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X-Message: #13
Date: 13 Sep 1997 17:13:37 GMT
From: rad...@aol.com (RADRAY5)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970913171...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: New York State Newspapers
Hi
The New York State Library has a webb site that lists libraries that have
most if not all of the papers. I found the New York World on micro. at
Cornell Univ. Good luck. BTW most of the films can be available through a
interlibrary loan.
Chris
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X-Message: #14
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 18:11:38 -0700
From: norry <n.pe...@virgin.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341B39...@virgin.net>
Subject: Re: Seeking The Family Tree Magazine of UK address/telephone #
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Diane Jarvie wrote:
>
> fsm...@mhv.net writes: >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am looking for the current address and telephone number of the
> > Family Tree Magazine in the UK. I am interested in subscribing and
> > possibly speaking to the advertising department about the placement of
> > an ad.
> >
> > The magazine does have a web page at
> > http://www.kitecom.co.uk/genealog/family.html
> > but no regular mail or phone contact information is provided. I have
> > attempted twice to email to them via the page and not received an
> > answer.
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Frederick E. Smith
> >
> > Email: fsm...@mhv.net
>
> >address of Family Tree Magazine, 61, Great Whyte, Ramsey,
Huntingdon, Cambridgeshire PE17 1HL, England
Phone 01487 814050
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X-Message: #15
Date: 13 Sep 1997 15:49:22 GMT
From: jem...@ds2.ncweb.com (Jane Mahlig)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vecm2$1ur$2...@news.en.com>
Subject: Re: German sons naming customs?
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
In article <5unp9p$62e$2...@flounder.trans.ge.com>, bau...@erie.ge.com
says...
>
>
>Somebody on the KNISLEY mailing list referred to "The German naming
>custom of naming the first two boys after their Grandfathers."
>
>Is there anything to this? I don't remember seeing any such pattern
>in my own German ancestors, but will take another look...
In several of my family branches it was common for the oldest son to be
named after his paternal grandfather, although certainly it doesn't
hold true everywhere. I was told by a distant cousin that he was told
by distant relative he located in Germany (Hesse-Kassel)that it was a
prevalent custom there.
>
--
Jane
Researching
EFFLAND/MAHLIG/MEYER/RADKE/SCHMIEL/SEELIG/SIEKEMEYER
http://www.ncweb.com:80/users/jem630/names.html
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X-Message: #16
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 12:59:18 -0500
From: rb...@facstaff.wisc.edu (R.Bull/B.Bauer)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <rbull-ya02368000...@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Subject: Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFinder (was Broderbund and RootsWeb)
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In article <3419df56...@news.melbpc.org.au>, b...@melbpc.org.au (Brian
Nye) wrote:
>
> I think there is a misapprehension going on here. Broderbund, even if
> they have an errant robot, is only creating links to a site. They are
> not grabbing all details off a site.
>
> If you are going to complain about that then you would have to
> complain about Hotbot, Alta Vista, Lycos et al. Robots gathering links
> is a basic and most usefull part of the Internet. Otherwise we would
> not be able to find anything.
>
> I do not believe any of the search engine companies ask permission
> before indexing a site. If you did not want your site indexed, for
> example, then you you would not put it on the Internet.
Sorry, but you are mistaken about the operations of the robots that gather
links for Hotbot, Alta Vista and Lycos. As I (and others) have already
pointed out elsewhere in this and other related threads; the robots
gathering links for Hotbot, Alta Vista and Lycos DO INDEED respect the
rights of a webmaster to maintain control over what parts of his site are
indexed. There are two generally accepted internet standards for excluding
robots from some or all parts of a given site. The first is called the
Robot Exclusion Standard in which the robots look for a 'robots.txt' file
which instructs the robot on which parts of the site may be searched and
indexed. Second, the robots respect HTML META tags (located on individual
pages) that may instruct the robots not to index that page or not to follow
links from that page.
Broderbund's FamilyFinder indexing robot, unlike the other search engines,
apparently recognizes neither of these conventions. It reportedly ignores
both of these types of 'stop signs' and instead indexes anything it can
gain access to, despite the wishes of the site's webmaster. It is unclear
whether the poor Netiquette displayed by Broderbund's FamilyFinder indexing
robot is the result of ignorance or arrogance, but it certainly isn't
winning Broderbund any friends in the net community.
Brian Bauer
rb...@facstaff.wisc.edu
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X-Message: #17
Date: 13 Sep 1997 18:54:47 GMT
From: locke...@aol.com (LOCKEroots)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970913185...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Locke Roots
See my web site for Locke / Lock research , it contains my family line
and links to other Locke researchers which may help you locate your wife's
family line .
http://members.aol.com/LOCKEroots/
don't forget to sign my GuestBook :)
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X-Message: #18
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 19:08:02 GMT
From: beerdl@[REMOVE.NO.SPAM]kos.net
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341ae...@news.kosone.com>
Subject: Re: New to group!!
>Kevin wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I am new to this group and I want to continue the work of another family
>> member,computerize his work and make it grow...which of the NUMEOUS software
>> packages on the shelf do you suggest???? why whynot??
>>
>> Kevin
>
Brother's Keeper is my favorite, fully funcional shareware (try before you
buy).
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Brothers_Keeper/
LeeAnn
E-mail: beerdl@<REMOVE NO SPAM>kos.net
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
{ Researching my family's history: }
{ http://www.visualcreations.com/pers/leeann/genealogy/ }
{ WHATLING Family History, a one name study }
{ http://www.visualcreations.com/pers/leeann/whatling/ }
{ Suffolk Surname Interest List (U.K.): }
{ http://www.visualcreations.com/pers/leeann/suffolk/ }
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X-Message: #19
Date: 13 Sep 1997 19:16:40 GMT
From: c.mo...@direct.ca (carole d. morgan)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5veoqo$82c$3...@brie.direct.ca>
Subject: Where is Newton, Northern Ireland?
I am trying to find the location in Northern Ireland of Newton.
I believe it might be in County Armagh. Please help.
Carole
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X-Message: #20
Date: 13 Sep 1997 19:44:01 GMT
From: "Ton" <ton.s...@tip.nl>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc07d$4b4e5100$dc4c12c3@t676658>
Subject: Riper, Rieper or Van Riper
Hello,
My name is Joke Riper. My greatest hobby is genealogy and I'm still
searching for the names Riper, Rieper or Van Riper.
Do you have any information about one of these names, please let me know.
My emailaddress is : ri...@club.tip.nl
My homepage is : http://www.riper.club.tip.nl
I hope to hear from you.
Regards,
Joke Riper
The Netherlands
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 86
Today's Topics:
#1 Geoghegan search ["denise geoghegan" <nermal@iafrica]
#2 Re: FTM QUESTION (V4.0) [mela...@simcoe.net]
#3 Birth Record in Connecticut ["Tim" <dsi...@ix.netcom.com>]
#4 DREAM LADY, PLEASE, REPLY [bb...@swva.net (Larry)]
#5 Re: RootsWeb -- 310,132 Name Septe ["arlene parnes" <arlene@orlinter.c]
#6 Re: MAC PAF 2.31 Temple Ready [inf...@swbell.net (Blaine Taylor)]
#7 FTM Upgrade Order ?? [Clarence woodcock <DEAUX@postoffic]
#8 Re: COX family research [jar...@aol.com (Jarmode)]
#9 GRADWELL, James Holding Apr.26, 19 [Jason Gradwell <ja...@mountain.wav]
#10 Software [Jo Hurn and Graeme Jones <hurnjo@s]
#11 Re: the name turpin any body know [Debbie Dempsey <pro...@erols.com>]
#12 Re: Genealogy software [br...@wn.com.au (Brian Kings)]
#13 Springfield, Illinois [Art and JoAnne <m...@pe.net>]
#14 Elizabeth City Co, VA [jdool...@aol.com (JDool90830)]
#15 Re: Software [ca...@quartz.gly.fsu.edu (Joseph Ca]
#16 Re: Software [ca...@quartz.gly.fsu.edu (Joseph Ca]
#17 Lee Genealogy. ["Diana" <dan...@telapex.com>]
#18 german [biig <bi...@mnsi.net>]
#19 World Family Tree [Bill Gatchell <gatchell@intersatx.]
#20 address for records office [JoAnne Jenkins <joannelj@InfoAve.n]
#21 Re: German translations [ro...@trib.com (Roll-o)]
#22 Best shareware Geneological softwa ["Trussell" <krus...@omicron.net>]
#23 Re: Passenger records ["E. J. Demaree" <BLU...@msn.com>]
#24 Re: Genealogy CD's ??? ["E. J. Demaree" <BLU...@msn.com>]
#25 Re: Oregon Phone Directory Look-up [Ron Bestrom <RBes...@ix.netcom.co]
#26 Genealogy CD's [gatc...@intersatx.net (Bill Gatch]
#27 ship: Gallia - england > USA photo [jam...@buffnet.net (Jim Szczodrow]
#28 Italian Research in VillaDolmo, Si [Daniel LoTempio <lotempioga@postof]
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X-Message: #1
Date: 13 Sep 1997 19:54:22 GMT
From: "denise geoghegan" <ner...@iafrica.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc080$4d2d69e0$b2401fc4@nermal>
Subject: Geoghegan search
I am researching the Geoghegan family history and would like to get in
contact with anyone doing the same. My Great grand father was James Mathew
Geoghegan (5/8/1885 - 1/1/1943 ) who lived in Johanesberg and Pretoria (
South Africa ) towards the end of his life. He had brothers named Jimmy,
Charlie and Frank and a sister Edith. I would be happy to find out about
any of these or their decsendents.
Contact me at ner...@iafrica.com
Thank you Denise Geoghegan
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X-Message: #2
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 04:30:02 -0400
From: mela...@simcoe.net
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341BA089...@simcoe.net>
Subject: Re: FTM QUESTION (V4.0)
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Hi Paul;
These instructions are all fine and well, but one thing I would like to know is how to include
the spousal parents when extracting one group. I have when creating the ouline tree to export
under individuals to include asked for the spouses parents, they show in the report but do not
export into the new file. Can you help on this one.
Mike Melanson
Paul Burchfield wrote:
> In article <19970910103...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, let...@aol.com (LETHAR) wrote:
> >I can't seem to figure out how to make a GEDCOM of only part of my file.
> >I can make and send one on the entire file (about 6000 people) but most
> >people are not interested in everyone I have collected. Please e-mail, if
> >you have done this and/or know how to do it. I'm not a computer whiz, so
> >please explain in regular English not computerese.
>
> I copied this from Family Tree Maker's on-screen Help:
>
> Copying/Exporting groups of individuals
>
> To export or delete a group of individuals:
>
> 1. Create either a report, Ancestor tree, Descendant tree, or Outline
> Descendant tree containing the group of individuals that you want to export or
> delete.
> 2. If you want to export the group of individuals to a new file, from the
> File menu, select Copy/Export Individuals (ALT, F, E) and then continue with
> step 3. If you want to permanently delete the group of individuals, from the
> People menu, select Delete Individuals (ALT, P, L). Skip the remaining steps.
>
> 3. In the Copy/Export Individuals dialog box, click the Save as type
> drop-down list and then select a file format for your new file.
> 4. Type a name for your new file in the File name field.
>
> The file name can be any valid Windows file name, up to 255 characters,
> although it must have a three-letter extension corresponding to the file
> format you selected in step 3. If you do not type in a three-letter
> extension, Family Tree Maker will add it for you.
>
> 5. In the Save in lists, select the drive and folder where you want
> Family Tree Maker to create your new file.
> 6. Click Save when you've made your selections.
>
> Family Tree Maker creates a new file containing a copy of the selected
> information. Your original Family File has not changed in any way.
>
> Sincerely, Family Tree Maker Deluxe Edition II:
> Paul Burchfield Winner of the Software Publishers Association's
> Broderbund Software, 1997 Excellence in Software Award for
> Banner Blue division Best Home Productivity Software Program
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X-Message: #3
Date: 13 Sep 1997 21:12:05 GMT
From: "Tim" <dsi...@ix.netcom.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc08a$1e4094e0$b1a120cc@#dsi-tim>
Subject: Birth Record in Connecticut
I recently requested my paternal grandfather's birth record from Hartford,
CT. My father's birth record states that he was born there. They do not
have any record of his birth. He was born in 1897/1898 . Does anyone
have any ideas about what I should do next? I wonder if I should request
my grandparents marraige record. But I would imagine it says the same
birth city. I have noticed that sometimes information "changes" over the
years. My grandmother insists her middle name is Amelia but her birth
record says Emilie!! I wonder if he was born in a town close to Hartford
and it was considered something else at the time of his birth and not
considered Hartford. Thanks to anyone who can help or has ideas. Tim and
Leslie
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X-Message: #4
Date: 13 Sep 1997 21:31:22 GMT
From: bb...@swva.net (Larry)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vf0na$i...@news1.infoave.net>
Subject: DREAM LADY, PLEASE, REPLY
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PLEASE READ !!!!
This is a description of my Dream Lady,
Do you know her ?, or could it be YOU ???
She has Long hair, and the most beautiful eyes, her weight is in
preportion to her height, she also has a kind and tender heart and is
always willing to do what she can to help others.
She is always putting me first,(as i do her), with the except of GOD
who always has and always will be first in both of our lifes.
She enjoys the simple things of life, and is always by my side
helping to make things better for us as a team and partners.
It is so easy to make her smile; keeping her happy and smiling is my
# 1 goal in life.....
She is so easy to talk to (with), we can talk about anythihg from A
to Z, and i do mean anything. No matter how serious, or trivial it may
seem. And just because she is smarter than i am, she Never belittles,
or down grades me for my thoughts or comments.
She does not smoke, or drink Alcohol, for she would Never do anything
to shorten our time togather, she loves me so much...... :))))))))
She loves Southern and Country Gospel Music, as well as the Oldies,
Old time Rock and Roll (1950s and 60s). She also loves the old Love
Balletts.
Oh yes, she also loves to camp, nature walks, and anything to do with
the out doors, and she also loves horses and dogs.
Dose'nt she sound just like a Dream ????
If you have seen or know her, would you Please tell her to write me
and let me know where she is ????
Also would you please ask her if she is still looking, wanting and
needing, me as she once did, or has she giving her dreams and needs up
and settled for something less ????
PLEASE tell her for me, that it is never too late, all she has to do
is just write and let me know where she is.......
Oh Shucks :))))) LOL
You cant tell her anything if i have'nt told you who it is that is
looking for her, can you ????
Just tell her that it is Larry, you know the one: he's a 48 year old
w/m, 5'8", average hight, average weight, average looks, and All
country, he also has short brown hair, hazel eyes, and always a big
smile for You. Now do you remember ? He also likes the same things
that you like, plus he loves to ride his mototcycle (he sold it to buy a
newer one). Now do you remember ? He is the one that dose'nt think
that any job is to small or hard to do if it helps to make you happy,
you know the one that would crawl across broken glass for a million
miles to protect and keep you safe.
What ? You still dont remember him ?? Maby you should drop him a
letter and get re-aquanted, i can assure you that you will NEVER regret
it !!!!!
Thank you for your help, it was and is greatly appreciated,
may GOD continue to bless and protect you and yours for me.
Raven
PS
befor you start to laugh, critize and make fun of me, my dreams,
and my Dream Lady, please ask yourself this, are You tired of being Used
and Abused, Rejected and Neglected ??
If you are being treated like the lady that you are, then please
with my blessings by all means count yourself blessed, for not everone
is so fortunate..
PLEASE REPLY for Dreams "DO" come True :)))))))
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X-Message: #5
Date: 13 Sep 1997 21:14:39 GMT
From: "arlene parnes" <arl...@orlinter.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc089$baa10aa0$6c6f04d1@arlene>
Subject: Re: RootsWeb -- 310,132 Name September RSL
> The September Roots Surname List, including 310,132 surnames
> submitted by 42,414 researchers, can now be searched at RootsWeb:
> http://www.rootsweb.com/
>
> There are 20,414 new surnames in this release.
>
I just tried this address and got the note that the last time it was
upgraded was July, 1997 with an apology saying it would be a "few days"
until it could be used.....
What's wrong?
Arlene in Orlando, FL
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X-Message: #6
Date: 13 Sep 1997 23:24:24 GMT
From: inf...@swbell.net (Blaine Taylor)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vf7b8$k9e$1...@nnrp1.rcsntx.swbell.net>
Subject: Re: MAC PAF 2.31 Temple Ready
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
In article <19970913141...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
carro...@aol.com says...
>
>Jim, contact the PAF support department at the Family History
>department of the Church. For the telephone number, you can contact your
>local FHC. There is a program for changing the MAC PAF data to be
>acceptable to Temple Ready. One of my patrons had to use it before we could
>get his information ready for the temple. Good Luck.
Hi
Sorry to but in, but I had a patron with the same problem (Mac Paf etc)
andhetook his floppy to Kinko's and they let his copy it over a floppy that
could be used for temple ready. I don't know where you are and if you have a
Kinko's near, but that is one possability.
Judith
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X-Message: #7
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 18:23:41 -0500
From: Clarence woodcock <DE...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341B20...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: FTM Upgrade Order ??
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Has anyone else had a major delay in receiving the 4.0 upgrade after
ordering it on-line at the FTM website?? I placed the order two weeks
ago and have received no response of any kind. No acknowledgement of
order, no email error message, and no upgrade software. What timeframe
should I expect here ??
(FWIW - if the folks at FTM are reading this - your web site is really
the _worst_ with regard to customer service. Why do I have to ask a
simple question like this one by going to Compuserve, AOL, or this
newsgroup - when I am already looking at your logo ????? I would think
that you would like to provide direct access for questions like this
one, for obvious reasons.)
Clarence Woodcock
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X-Message: #8
Date: 13 Sep 1997 23:36:00 GMT
From: jar...@aol.com (Jarmode)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970913233...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: COX family research
You might also look for COCKE which is pronounced 'Cox' and is a name
associated with the early settlement of Virginia and later Tennessee, among
other places.
Good luck,
Jack Cormode
jar...@usa.net
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X-Message: #9
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 19:40:36 -0400
From: Jason Gradwell <ja...@mountain.wave.ca>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341B2474...@mountain.wave.ca>
Subject: GRADWELL, James Holding Apr.26, 1924-Feb.1, 1997
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Mother: KEMP, Sarah Anne
Father: TURNER, James Holding (GRADWELL, J. deceased before marriage)
Looking for information on my family which stems from the GRADWELL
surname, but also related to the TURNER family. From what I know my
grandfather's father passed away before he was born and my
great-grandmother married TURNER, James H. a stock broker, who
emmigrated to Canada in between 1920-35.
Anyone with information email me at jas...@mountain.wave.ca
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X-Message: #10
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 12:43:26 +0930
From: Jo Hurn and Graeme Jones <hur...@senet.com.au>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341A04...@senet.com.au>
Subject: Software
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Hello,
I have just found this newsgroup. I have been using "Personal Roots" to
create my family tree - I have found it very limiting. It doesn't allow
for maidens names, divorces, or for storing much other information. Can
someone recommend a more comprehensive family tree creator? (or where to
start looking on the web?) I have heard that the Church of the Latter
Day Saints has a good version - but I haven't been able to locate it on
the web??
Many thanks,
Jo Hurn
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X-Message: #11
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 20:04:54 -0400
From: Debbie Dempsey <pro...@erols.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341B2A26...@erols.com>
Subject: Re: the name turpin any body know the nationlity
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Me Too! Earliest known Turpin in my line was Thomas Turpin, in 1600s
New England.
Debbie
omn...@cascade.net wrote:
> trying to find out the nationlity of the name turpin before england
> omn...@cascade.net
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X-Message: #12
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 10:46:47 GMT
From: br...@wn.com.au (Brian Kings)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vf93g$st2$1...@loomi.telstra.net>
Subject: Re: Genealogy software
"Darlene Beaver" <beav...@brightok.net> wrote:
---------------
Darlene,
You may care to check out Legacy 2.0 on:-
<http://www.legacyfamilytree.com>
Brian Kings
>There are so many different types of software packages available. Can
>someone tell me if there is a common format that will work on the majority
>of them? I would like to put my research on the computer and also to pass
>it along to the LDS for their records. I only want to input it once, and
>have a easy working end product.
>All help would be appreciated. Thanks, Darlene (beav...@brightok.net)
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X-Message: #13
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 17:22:37 -0700
From: Art and JoAnne <m...@pe.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341B2E4D...@pe.net>
Subject: Springfield, Illinois
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Ladyhvac wrote:
I need to get a birth certificate from Springfield, Illinois but I
don't have the slightest idea where to write or how much money to send.
The birth occured in 1905 if this makes a differance ( I know it does
in some states). I would appreciate if some one could help me with this.
>
> Annie (Lady...@aol.com)
*************Hi Annie,
Just now read another message referring to a rude comment you received
..... apparently. Newsgroups are supposed to be to get the help that
you need on a particular subject. Asking questions is the only way
you're going to get answers so don't take this person's comment to
heart. You're very welcome (reference thanking me
for replying to your question a couple days ago) and I remember that
when I first started doing genealogy there were lots of "little old
ladies" all across the country who looked things up for me at no charge
(this was before the internet when look-ups and exchanges of information
were mostly done by hand -- and written or typed letter), gave me lots
of little tips and generally showed me that there are wonderful people
in this world who don't mind sharing their own experience in genealogy.
Many of these ladies (and some gentlemen too) are gone now -- I'm so
grateful that they helped me as a newcomer and I've always wanted to be
like they were and help others in their searches also. Hang in there
and I'm certain you'll meet many more wonderful and helpful people on
the internet vs ones who are so unhappy themselves that they need to be
unkind to others. Take care and stay on the newsgroup lists (I just
delete messages I don't care to see or read -- it alleviates alot of
garbage and spam). There are many success stories on the internet -- I
have connected with about eight various cousins just in the past year so
keep asking those questions and good luck. Jo Anne
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X-Message: #14
Date: 14 Sep 1997 01:52:30 GMT
From: jdool...@aol.com (JDool90830)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970914015...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Elizabeth City Co, VA
My g.g. grandfather died in Elizabeth City Co.1904. They lived on what
is now Poplar Ave in Newport News, VA. In the 1900 Census, they were
listed as being on "Electric Car Line".
I have requested death certificate for him from the City of Newport News,
but there was none. The catholic church has a record of his death, but not
the City. Does anyone know if death records for Elizabeth City Co, (which
no longer exists) would be in Newport News or Hampton, VA???
Thanks.
Jan Dool you are invited to visit my homepage
http://members.aol.com/JDool90830/jano.htm
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X-Message: #15
Date: 14 Sep 1997 01:49:44 GMT
From: ca...@quartz.gly.fsu.edu (Joseph Cain)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vffro$pot$1...@news.fsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Software
In article <341A04...@senet.com.au> hur...@senet.com.au writes:
>Hello,
>
>I have just found this newsgroup. I have been using "Personal Roots" to
>create my family tree - I have found it very limiting. It doesn't allow
>for maidens names, divorces, or for storing much other information. Can
>someone recommend a more comprehensive family tree creator? (or where to
>start looking on the web?) I have heard that the Church of the Latter
>Day Saints has a good version - but I haven't been able to locate it on
>the web??
>
I think this is Roots, which I tried but was unwilling to learn. It
seems to have evolved from a DOS program and I was looking for a more
point and shoot one in 32 bit for Windows 95. I tried several and got
tired of comparing. I thus am using Cumberland Family Tree:
http://www.cf-software.com/
which gives a 45 day introductory use of the full program.
It is a little like editors, you stay with what you know so long as it
does more or less what you want.
Joseph Cain
ca...@gfdi.fsu.edu, @leyla.gfdi.fsu.edu, @gly.fsu.edu ,or @scri.fsu.edu
(850) 644-4014 (office) FAX (850) 644-8972/-0098/-4214
(850) 385-0227 (residence) http://geomag.gfdi.fsu.edu/~cain
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X-Message: #16
Date: 14 Sep 1997 01:45:42 GMT
From: ca...@quartz.gly.fsu.edu (Joseph Cain)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vffk6$pnr$1...@news.fsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Software
In article <341A04...@senet.com.au> hur...@senet.com.au writes:
>Hello,
>
>I have just found this newsgroup. I have been using "Personal Roots" to
>create my family tree - I have found it very limiting. It doesn't allow
>for maidens names, divorces, or for storing much other information. Can
>someone recommend a more comprehensive family tree creator? (or where to
>start looking on the web?) I have heard that the Church of the Latter
>Day Saints has a good version - but I haven't been able to locate it on
>the web??
>
I think this is Roots, which I tried but was unwilling to learn. It
seems to have evolved from a DOS program and I was looking for a more
point and shoot one in 32 bit for Windows 95. I tried several and got
tired of comparing. I thus am using Cumberland Family Tree:
http://www.cf-software.com/
which gives a 45 day introductory use of the full program.
It is a little like editors, you stay with what you know so long as it
does more or less what you want.
Joseph Cain
ca...@gfdi.fsu.edu, @leyla.gfdi.fsu.edu, @gly.fsu.edu ,or @scri.fsu.edu
(850) 644-4014 (office) FAX (850) 644-8972/-0098/-4214
(850) 385-0227 (residence) http://geomag.gfdi.fsu.edu/~cain
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X-Message: #17
Date: 14 Sep 1997 01:52:06 GMT
From: "Diana" <dan...@telapex.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc0b0$8a35f3e0$a0361ece@gateway-2000>
Subject: Lee Genealogy.
I would like to hear from anyone searching for Lee's in SC.
Diana
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X-Message: #18
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 22:02:29 -0400
From: biig <bi...@mnsi.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341B45...@mnsi.net>
Subject: german
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I've had a crash and lost my newsgroups. Can anyone tell me the proper
command to get the german genealogy newsgroup back? Thanks......Sharon
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X-Message: #19
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:05:37 -0500
From: Bill Gatchell <gatc...@intersatx.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3416EF...@intersatx.net>
Subject: World Family Tree
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I seen on the World Family Tree webpage they have an option of finding
out the submitter of different surnames. I don't currently own WFT.
Anyway of getting submitter's name without purchases the CD? There's
only one I've found my surname on, thats Volume #2. But to get the info
from their webpager server you need to know the CD ID#...
Bill Gatchell
San Antonio, Tx
gatc...@intersatx.net
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X-Message: #20
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 22:36:56 +0000
From: JoAnne Jenkins <joan...@InfoAve.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341B15...@InfoAve.net>
Subject: address for records office
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Does any one have the address for the records office for birth/death
certificates in Columbus, Ohio?
Thank you!
JoAnne
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X-Message: #21
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 03:42:02 GMT
From: ro...@trib.com (Roll-o)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vfmem$f...@news.trib.com>
Subject: Re: German translations
barney.b...@moobasi.com (Barney Barnhardt) wrote:
>T > Believe I have seen a URL listed before where one can get help with
>T > translating German to English. Could someone who has that address
>Another possibility... There are programs that are available that do a
>fairly good job of translation from German to English and vice/versa.
>They're not terribly expensive and are there any time you have something to
>translate...
>Barney...
>... barney.b...@appletons.com / barney.b...@moobasi.com
>___ Mountain Reader - 1.1
USE this with care, and the translator is good and free.BUT it can
take as long as 20 minutes to download the jump page. Let me know if
you are amused.http://www.thecodex.com/search.html
my source of schematic diagrams: http://w3.trib.com/~rollo/bomcat.htm
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X-Message: #22
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 23:55:46 -0400
From: "Trussell" <krus...@omicron.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vfn2f$kts$1...@client2.news.psi.net>
Subject: Best shareware Geneological software program for novice
Any options on Genealogy software in general? I'd like to start with a
shareware program then move up.
Thanks!
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X-Message: #23
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 22:03:46 -0700
From: "E. J. Demaree" <BLU...@msn.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc0c9$d446cae0$9b302399@default>
Subject: Re: Passenger records
Kati
Just a thought... Did you think of the fact that you may have the date the
ship left Europe vs landad in the Americas... That happened to me...
EJD
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X-Message: #24
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 22:01:11 -0700
From: "E. J. Demaree" <BLU...@msn.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc0c9$7701d6e0$9b302399@default>
Subject: Re: Genealogy CD's ???
Chris
You need to contact your local Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
(Family History Library)(LDS Library). They have or cah get most
historical information you could desire (Census, War, etc Records). They
let you use the Library free. Oh by the way they usually have a computer
and microfilm readers etc for your use. Family history takes time but is
rewarding. Have fun. EJD
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X-Message: #25
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 22:07:37 -0700
From: Ron Bestrom <RBes...@ix.netcom.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341B71...@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Oregon Phone Directory Look-up
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Linda wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I was wondering if some kind person that has a directory for Seaside,
> Oregon would do an address look-up for me. It's for my sister, I have
> her number but she's NEVER home without an answering machine so I
> thought I would write.
>
> Her name is: Cindy & Ken Woods
>
> TIA,
> Linda
You have your sisters number but not her address? Is that what your
question is? So you leave a message on her machine and she doesn't
answer? Your email doesn't make sense, or someone is trying to avoid
you. Or if you know the number but not the address, maybe you are
stalking someone and need to know where they live?
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X-Message: #26
Date: 13 Sep 1997 23:02:49 -0700
From: gatc...@intersatx.net (Bill Gatchell)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.1997091...@mail.intersatx.net>
Subject: Genealogy CD's
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Anyone interested in selling their USED genealogy CD's?
Bill Gatchell
mailto:gatc...@intersatx.net
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X-Message: #27
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 01:30:55 -0500
From: jam...@buffnet.net (Jim Szczodrowski)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <jamessz-1409...@dppp59.buffnet.net>
Subject: ship: Gallia - england > USA photo?
anyone have a photo of the ship Gallia. it was from the 1880's and
traveled from england to new york.
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X-Message: #28
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 03:43:58 -0400
From: Daniel LoTempio <lotem...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341B95...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Italian Research in VillaDolmo, Sicily.
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I am checking on my family name in Sicicly, and have checked all of the
LDS microfilms and cannot find reference to any of my ancestors. I have
checked all birth, death, marriage. Were to next?
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 87
Today's Topics:
#1 Re: Make$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ["Dr. Whisky" <cam...@prtc.net>]
#2 Automate your genealogy research - [3...@673.com]
#3 Re: Software ["E. J. Demaree" <BLU...@msn.com>]
#4 Re: Where is Newton, Northern Irel [sean...@world.std.com (SeanRuad~)]
#5 Re: 1871 Canadian Census [du...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Barbara]
#6 Help a west! ["Dave West" <d.w...@ukonline.co.u]
#7 Info needed - NYC Archives on Cham [chw...@ibm.net (Charles Wood)]
#8 SHOPE - NEIBRECHT - WATT Allen Co [ma...@wcoil.com (M Gierhart)]
#9 Re: Civil war soldier help needed ["John C. Carter" <spiff@atlantic.n]
#10 Re: Where is Newton, Northern Irel [Mike Lillington <mi...@rallymap.dem]
#11 St. Claire Co. IL journal [suz...@aol.com (Suzalee)]
#12 Re: FARRINGTON [jmin...@aol.com (JMintonRA)]
#13 Re: Broderbund and Rootsweb Is thi [dco...@techie.com (David Cooper)]
#14 Re: Oregon Phone Directory Look-up [Linda <mons...@swbell.net>]
#15 Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFi [dco...@techie.com (David Cooper)]
#16 Lafayette, Indiana - MARSH/GARRISO [daniel <dan...@iglou.com>]
#17 Marsh - Dr William of Bethesda, Ma [daniel <dan...@iglou.com>]
#18 Rochester, Michigan-MARSH FAMILY [daniel <dan...@iglou.com>]
#19 DAVIS; Burke Co., NC,USA; 1804-184 [camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield]
#20 Free genealogy newsletter - Geneal [tfarr...@aol.com (TFarris268)]
#21 STEPHENSON, James; VA,USA > PA,USA [camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield]
#22 WHARTON, Francis; Accomack Co., VA [camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield]
#23 MELSON; MD,USA > VA,USA > DE,USA; [camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield]
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X-Message: #1
Date: 14 Sep 1997 08:15:01 GMT
From: "Dr. Whisky" <cam...@prtc.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc0df$1956f320$5a4492cc@camaro2>
Subject: Re: Make$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$Read ThIs
chokmah <cho...@post5.tele.dk> wrote in article
<341889...@post5.tele.dk>...
> Dr. Whisky wrote:
> >
> > note to self, get on his case.
> >
> > #6 Patrick Janitz
> > 1801 N Leland
> > Indpls, In 46218
> >
> > cc
> >
> > BEARSCOUT <BEAR...@prodigy.net> wrote in article
> > <01bcbdf2$63a7ae00$662dedcc@default>...
>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
Heee, heee. A horny 15 yr old wanna be lawyer. A waste is a terrible thing
to mind.
> LAWS against SPAMMERS:
> Its best for those who are resident in the USA just to go see the
police
> but for people outside the US Ill suggest that you call The US embassy
for information.
>
when did the Spammer Law go in effect? I find it hard to beleive that the
government would pick such a doofy name.
>
>
> "By US Code Title 47, Sec 227(a)(2)(B), a computer/modem/printer
> meets the definition of a telephone fax machine.
HAHA, what a lamer!! First of all it doesn't meet the criteria to be a fax,
sending it in fax is wrong cuz it ties up the line and slows you down. E
mail or posts do not fall in that category. I find it amusing how someone
made this up a while back and everyone is following the piper.
PS: Chokmah when did you learn to spell? This is obviously a copy and paste
because you have THE worst spelling I have ever witnessed on the net as far
as English goes. C U A round.
carlos camaro
> By Sec 227(b)(1)(C), it is unlawful to send any unsolicited
> advertisment to such equipment.
>
> By Sec. 227(b)(3)(C), a violation of the aforementioned section is
> punishable by action to recover actual money loss, or $500, whichever
> is greater, for each violation."
>
> I will report any further violations from Your site, which I get
> knowledge of to ab...@postoffice.us
>
>
>
>
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X-Message: #2
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 97 03:00:49
From: 3...@673.com
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vg5dh$s...@news2.triton.net>
Subject: Automate your genealogy research - 4 0914030047 JOE
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Automate your genealogy research!
News Rover is the ideal tool for searching through genealogy newsgroups
for family names. Once you tell it what to look for, News Rover will scan
a set of newsgroups and collect all messages that contain what you are
searching for. For example, if you are researching the McDaniel family
from England or Scotland, you could specify a search expression such as:
(McDaniel and England) or (McDaniel and Scotland)
News Rover will then scan a set of newsgroups you select and collect any
messages that match the search expression. This searching is completely
automatic, so it works while you sleep, work, or play. The search
expressions can be as simple as a single word, or they can be complex
expressions with AND, OR, NEAR, and NOT operators.
You can download a free demonstration copy of News Rover from:
But News Rover is good for more than just genealogy newsgroups. You can
use it to search for collectables in forsale newsgroups, or for any other
type of information in any newsgroups you choose. And News Rover is ideal
for picture newsgroups. It decodes both UUencoded and MIME base64 images,
and it combines and reconstructs binary files that are split into
multiple messages.
Here are some of the key features of News Rover:
o Scans newsgroups you specify while you sleep, work, and play.
o Automatically downloads messages and attached files so that they are
available for instant access when you are ready to review them.
o Decodes attached files of all types (UUencoded and MIME base64).
o Displays a picture gallery of collected thumbnail size images.
o Selects messages based on include and/or exclude criteria to help
you find a needle in a haystack and eliminate spam. You can even
use complex selection expressions with AND, OR, NEAR and NOT.
o Supports multiple "interest groups," each with sets of newsgroups,
selection expressions, message database, and picture gallery.
o Allows you to post Usenet messages and send e-mail.
o Remembers files already extracted and eliminates duplicates
automatically.
o Saves parts of multi-part files, searches for the missing
parts, and rebuilds the entire file when the last part arrives.
It even combines parts found on different days and in different
newsgroups.
o Allows you to block all future messages from specified senders.
o Operates on a schedule you set up to use your phone line only
when you don't need it.
o Automatically dials the provider and hangs up the phone when it
is finished.
o Works with almost all Internet providers and news servers.
o News Rover is multi-threaded so you can read messages and view
pictures while it downloads and decodes more messages.
News Rover was designed and written by real-life Usnet newsgroup junkies!
With News Rover the news is ready when you are!
To learn more and download your free demonstration copy, visit:
Tucows says "An excellent news reader" and gives it 4 1/2 cows out of 5.
D.G. says: I downloaded News Rover last night... I ordered this morning. I
don't know how much time I saved. I give your product two thumbs up!!!
T.B. says: "Great Job!!! I tried your software for the first time today, and
it beats Plukit-32 hands down!!
-- 4: alt.genealogy 0914030047 --
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X-Message: #3
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 01:02:17 -0700
From: "E. J. Demaree" <BLU...@msn.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc0e2$c43ff900$d5302399@default>
Subject: Re: Software
Look in the local white pages or yellow pages under Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter Day Saints. The local bishop can help you. Best of all is if
you have a local LDS Family History Library in the area. Then you can just
ask them.
I use the LDS Software and it is great. If you need more help just E-Mail
me
E. J. Demaree
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X-Message: #4
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 08:52:20 GMT
From: sean...@world.std.com (SeanRuad~)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <EGHpz...@world.std.com>
Subject: Re: Where is Newton, Northern Ireland?
carole d. morgan (c.mo...@direct.ca) wrote:
: I am trying to find the location in Northern Ireland of Newton.
: I believe it might be in County Armagh. Please help.
: Carole
I do not find the name NEWTON used as a placename anywhere in
Ireland - but there are over 200 of the name NEWTOWN, including
at least 2 in Co.Armagh - one is a townland of approx. 425 acres
in the C/P of Killevy near Newry - the other would be the Town
of Newtown Hamilton in the C/P of the same name near Castleblaney -
hope this of some help
regards, SeanRuad~ *{:-) near Boston
Project Director for _The IreAtlas Project_ - Phase II is now
50% completed - you are invited to check our web site progress at
http://www.thecore.com/cgi-bin/ire-srch || COMMENTS WELCOME
of the BRODERICKs of Ballymalis, Co. Kerry, near the castle, and
the WHELTONs of Desert, Clonakilty, near the quarry
e-mail: sean...@world.std.com
tel: 7 days ( EST 6am-6pm only ) (617) 646-3236
snail mail: 1424 Massachusetts Avenue
Arlington, MA 02174-4134 U.S.A.
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X-Message: #5
Date: 14 Sep 1997 07:50:29 GMT
From: du...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Barbara Hopper)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vg505$j...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: 1871 Canadian Census
Jack Hughes (hugh...@erols.com) writes:
> Can anyone tell me what the occupation "LAB" is which appears for my
> great great grandfather in the 1871 Canadian censes? I'm assuming that
> it is "Laborer" but I'm not sure.
>
> Thank you.
> --
> Jack M. Hughes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . hugh...@erols.com
>
Jack:
You're absolutely right. He was a "laborer."
Cheers,
Barb
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X-Message: #6
Date: 14 Sep 1997 10:48:26 GMT
From: "Dave West" <d.w...@ukonline.co.uk>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc0fb$e7e99320$4571...@default.hi-net.co.uk>
Subject: Help a west!
My name is Dave West and I'm from the uk,i would like help on tracing my
family tree back as far as possinble,i'd love to here from any other wets
and anyone who could help,thanks,contact me at d.w...@ukonline.co.uk
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X-Message: #7
Date: 14 Sep 1997 11:56:43 GMT
From: chw...@ibm.net (Charles Wood)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vgjdr$b...@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Info needed - NYC Archives on Chambers Street
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
Hello all, I've been to the NYC Archives on Chambers streets, but
misplaced their handout which lists opening hours and earliest dates for
Birth, Marriage and Death Records. Can someone help?
I'll be near NYC the end of this month and want to go in to the
archives, but need the above info to be certain that I'm not wasting
time. If someone has a tel no. that is answered by a person, that would
be a good start. I'm traveling from Florida.
My interests are Brooklyn, Kings County, New York.
Thanks in advance. Charlie
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X-Message: #8
Date: 14 Sep 1997 12:36:42 GMT
From: ma...@wcoil.com (M Gierhart)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vgloq$3i3$1...@208.10.2.148>
Subject: SHOPE - NEIBRECHT - WATT Allen Co., OH
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
Due to another Motherboard problem,I have lost E-Mail from the
persons submitting messages for the above Cemetery Requests.. Please
re-submitt your requests..
Allen Co. Ohio Genealogy Page
http://alpha.wcoil.com/~markg/allenco/main.html
Sorry for the inconvience!
Mark Gierhart
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X-Message: #9
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 23:17:35 -0400
From: "John C. Carter" <sp...@atlantic.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341B5742...@atlantic.net>
Subject: Re: Civil war soldier help needed
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lab...@labels.com wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Are there any pages on the web where I may search civil war
> information? I am searching for the regiment, etc. that my ancestor,
> James Clement Sharman served in. He would have served in Alabama.
>
> Thanks for any info.
>
> Leah
Try this site: http://funnelweb.utcc.utk.edu/~hoemann/warweb.html
You should be able to surf around from there.
Hope this helps!
John C. Carter
sp...@atlantic.net
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X-Message: #10
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 12:09:59 +0100
From: Mike Lillington <mi...@rallymap.demon.co.uk>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <8jbhsCAH...@rallymap.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Where is Newton, Northern Ireland?
In article <5veoqo$82c$3...@brie.direct.ca>, "carole d. morgan"
<c.mo...@direct.ca> writes
>I am trying to find the location in Northern Ireland of Newton.
>I believe it might be in County Armagh. Please help.
Carole.
I do not have a Newton listed for anywhere within the Emerald Isle !
There are numerous Newtown's as villages, towns and townlands with one
Newtown listed as a townland in Co Armagh, within the Parish of Killevy
and not far from Newry.
--
Mike Lillington (The Ordnance Survey Mapping Specialist)
RALLYMAPS of WEST WELLOW, PO BOX 11, ROMSEY, HAMPSHIRE, SO51 8XX. U.K.
Tel/FAX: 01794 515444 International +44 1794 515444
e-mail: mi...@rallymap.demon.co.uk www.rallymap.demon.co.uk
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X-Message: #11
Date: 14 Sep 1997 13:32:34 GMT
From: suz...@aol.com (Suzalee)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970914133...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: St. Claire Co. IL journal
Does anyone know where I can get copies of articles from the journal
BRANCHING OUT FROM ST. CLAIR COUNTY IL? Please reply by email to
suz...@aol.com
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X-Message: #12
Date: 14 Sep 1997 13:52:30 GMT
From: jmin...@aol.com (JMintonRA)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970914135...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: FARRINGTON
Just found you in alt. genealogy.
I am seeking Nancy Farrington(b abt. 1780) and her family. She married
Joseph Burns both of Hillsboro County in N.H. Indiana Burns was thier child
and she married Joseph Duncklee (b. 1800)
Any help on this limb of my tree would be very helpful. Nancy is in direct
line to my father. My ggggrandmother.
Thank you,
Diana
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X-Message: #13
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 09:50:44 -0400
From: dco...@techie.com (David Cooper)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <MPG.e85b5be1...@news.prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Broderbund and Rootsweb Is this true
In article <rbull-ya02368000...@news.doit.wisc.edu>,
rb...@facstaff.wisc.edu says...
> The only problem is that you (and Eric Holstege) DID NOT answer many of the
> questions raised. Amongst others, the following assertions about
> Broderbund's FamilyFinder indexing robot for were left unanswered:
>
> > o Their robot is wildly out of conformance with standard
> > robot design, which is why it batters servers so badly.
> >
> > o Their robot ignores robots.txt files, which means there's
> > no polite way to keep it out of places where it shouldn't
> > be.
> >
> > o They tend to download from sites at peak hours.
> >
> > o There's no privacy mechanism, or way for a Webmaster to ask
> > Broderbund to remove links from its database if they've
> > downloaded inappropriate material.
>
thanks Brian for voicing these concerns. I have been following this
thread since it started and have been watching for answers to these
questions. I was going to post these questions again today; but, you
beat me to it :)
I am a very happy user of FTM and do applaud Broderbund for taking on
such a large project. HOWEVER, they need to follow the standard way of
doing these things.
--
...david -- researching: ALLEN,BERZONER,COHEN (Fastov,UKR),COOPER,
FLEISHMAN,PRITIKIN (UKR)
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/o/David--Cooper/
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X-Message: #14
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 09:14:35 -0500
From: Linda <mons...@swbell.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Oregon Phone Directory Look-up
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Ron Bestrom wrote:
>
> Linda wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was wondering if some kind person that has a directory for Seaside,
> > Oregon would do an address look-up for me. It's for my sister, I have
> > her number but she's NEVER home without an answering machine so I
> > thought I would write.
> >
> > Her name is: Cindy & Ken Woods
> >
> > TIA,
> > Linda
>
> You have your sisters number but not her address? Is that what your
> question is? So you leave a message on her machine and she doesn't
> answer? Your email doesn't make sense, or someone is trying to avoid
> you. Or if you know the number but not the address, maybe you are
> stalking someone and need to know where they live?
No, I HAD her address but my letters are coming back RETURN TO SENDER.
She lives with her mother-in-law (who is not a nice person) and doesn't
give her her messages and mail so I'm wondering if I even have the right
address, Smartie!
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X-Message: #15
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 10:18:16 -0400
From: dco...@techie.com (David Cooper)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <MPG.e85bc30d...@news.prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Broderbund's Internet FamilyFinder (was Broderbund and RootsWeb)
In article <01bcbf31$0bf77240$5692...@dsuarez.cts.com>, dsu...@cts.com
says...
> Thanks very much for the information. Its clear that Broderbund's actions
> were wrong in this instance. The company should be asking permission
> before it indexes a site.
Why should they ? As has been stated before, does AltaVista, Excite,
HotBot or any of the others ask permission ? Yes, Broderbund needs to
fix their Robot to adhere to proper standards; but, beyond that they are
no different then any other search engine.
> The people behind Rootsweb have devoted long hours and considerable money
> to offer the Rootsweb surname database, mailing lists and other features.
> Rootsweb has a nominal subscription to defray their costs. If Broderbund
> 'takes' the Rootsweb databases and puts them in the FTM page, there would
> be no incentive for anyone to visit the Rootsweb site thus diminishing the
> Rootswebs ability to attract subscribers and to continue their efforts.
First, Broderbund does not " 'take' the Rootsweb database ". Before you
spread misinformation maybe you should to visit FamilyTreeMaker.com and
checkout the index to see what it does do. You enter a name that you are
looking for and it displays the name, possible dates (if available) and a
link to where it can be found and how you can get that information. For
example, in the case of the data being from the SSDI, the link tells you
which SSDI CD the name was found on and how you can get that CD.
Remember, Broderbund's index contains information from many CD, not only
the ones that they sell -- i.e. they contain links to their competitors
CD as well (and their competitors do not seem to be complaining about
this).
If the source of a name were to be from Rootsweb, then I would expect the
display to look something like the following:
Cohen, Harry abt 1900 Rootsweb
where "rootsweb" would be a link and if you click on it, you will be
supplied with the URL of Rootsweb or taken directly to Rootsweb (as any
other URL link would do). NOTICE the index does not contain any of the
specifics about Harry Cohen except for possible dates. To see any of the
other information on Harry Cohen (such as migration pattern) you would
have to visit Rootsweb. Gee, if I were Rootsweb I would definitely want
this as this means MORE people visiting my site, NOT less and therefore
more potential contributors.
--
...david -- researching: ALLEN,BERZONER,COHEN (Fastov,UKR),COOPER,
FLEISHMAN,PRITIKIN (UKR)
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/o/David--Cooper/
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X-Message: #16
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 09:27:47 GMT
From: daniel <dan...@iglou.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Lafayette, Indiana - MARSH/GARRISON
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I'm currently working on the Marsh family and interested in
hearing from anyone related to: Joline MARSH GARRISON, she
is the the daughter of Gilbert Earl Marsh of Harrison County
Indiana, who was a public offical in New Albany Indaina for many
years.
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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 09:25:05 GMT
From: daniel <dan...@iglou.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Marsh - Dr William of Bethesda, Maryland
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I'm currently working on the Marsh Family and would like to get
in contact with relatives of Dr William Marsh, the son of
Gilbert Earl Marsh.
Other children of Gilbert Marsh are:
Carlton Marsh of Rochester, Michigan
Wanda Marsh Haley of Monticello Indiana
Joline Marsh Garrison of Lafayette Indiana
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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 09:32:02 GMT
From: daniel <dan...@iglou.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Rochester, Michigan-MARSH FAMILY
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I'm currently working on the Marsh Family and would like to
hear from anyone from the family of or who knows the whereabouts of
a CARLTON MARSH, the son of Gilbert Earl MARSH of Harrison Ci, Indiana
and a retired public offical from New Albany Indiana.
Carlton was living in Rochester in 1988 when his father, my cousin
passed away. Gilbert's father and my great grandmmother are
brother and sister (Lizzie Alice Marsh).
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X-Message: #19
Date: 14 Sep 1997 15:55:36 GMT
From: camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vh1do$9...@bl-4.rootsweb.com>
Subject: DAVIS; Burke Co., NC,USA; 1804-1847
DAVIS; Burke Co., NC,USA; 1804-1847
1. JOHN DAVIS, m. 24 Nov 1815, Burke Co., N.C., Elizabeth Mashburn. He d.
1820.
2. A son MATHEW DAVIS was b. 26 Sep 1817 in what is now McDowell Co., N.C.;
m. Sophia Brevard (b. 1821), and both d. of typhoid in 1849. (Mathew had a
brother William, b. 1819.)
3. Sons John and Abel Davis died in the Civil War, ages 21 and 17,
respectively. A daughter HANNAH DAVIS m. Noble Bacchus Westall of Buncombe
Co., N.C. (and another daughter, Ann Elizabeth, m. Winfield Scott Westall).
My line is in capital letters. It is thought that John (first generation
above) may have been a son of the William Davis for whom a Burke Co. land
grant was issued in 1805. My search mainly is for the ancestry of this John
and for information about his life.
Thanks for your attention,
Tom Camfield - camf...@olympus.net
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Date: 14 Sep 1997 15:59:28 GMT
From: tfarr...@aol.com (TFarris268)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970914155...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Free genealogy newsletter - Genealogy Today
The October issue of "Genealogy Today" will be sent out October 1, 1997.
If you are not already a subscriber yet, and want to receive this free
genealogy newsletter, send email to tfarr...@aol.com and put subscribe in
the subject line.
Queries are accepted, keep to 3 lines please, send to tfarr...@aol.com
and put query in the subject line. The deadline for queries for the October
issue is September 22, 1997. Any received after that date will appear in
the November issue.
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X-Message: #21
Date: 14 Sep 1997 15:59:19 GMT
From: camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: STEPHENSON, James; VA,USA > PA,USA; 1760-1813
STEPHENSON, James; VA,USA > PA,USA; 1760-1813
JAMES STEPHENSON was born in Berkeley Co., Va., son of Richard and Honora,
d. 1813, Pa. (probably Washington Co.); m. (l) Rachel McKeevers, by whom
children included WILLIAM STEPHENSON.
I seek to confirm that this son William was the William Stephenson who was
b. 12 Jan 1785 in Pennsylvania and died in Morgan Co., Illinois, some time
before 1850; spouse Nancy ------, b. 1791, Pa., d. 10 Dec 1863, Morgan (or
Cass) Co., Ill.
Thanks for your attention,
Tom Camfield - camf...@olympus.net
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X-Message: #22
Date: 14 Sep 1997 16:01:58 GMT
From: camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: WHARTON, Francis; Accomack Co., VA,USA; d. 1700
WHARTON, Francis; Accomack Co., VA,USA; d. 1700
FRANCIS WHARTON d.4 Jun 1700, Accomack Co., Va. (ref: Nottingham, "Accomack
Co. Wills," p. 24). He m. Elizabeth -----; children included Francis,
Charles, John, Daniel, Thomas, Elizabeth and Sarah (m. Wm. Melson).
I am interested in the ancestry and life of Francis Wharton--and also in
the life of his son john Wharton (m. Susanna ------) who d. 1721, Somerset
Co., Maryland.
Tom Camfield - camf...@olympus.net
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X-Message: #23
Date: 14 Sep 1997 16:05:47 GMT
From: camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vh20r$a...@bl-4.rootsweb.com>
Subject: MELSON; MD,USA > VA,USA > DE,USA; 1650-1750
MELSON; MD,USA > VA,USA > DE,USA; 1650-1750
I have:
1. JOHN MELSON, m. E. Painter/Penter.
2. JOHN MELSON, b. ca. 1674, Somerset Co., Md.; d. 1737, Accomack Co., Va.;
m. Mary Smith.
3. DANIEL MELSON, b. ca. 1700, Accomack Co., Va.; d. 1791, Worcester Co.,
Md.; m. Mary Carey.
4. MARY MELSON, b. 1733, Sussex Co., Del.; d. 1780, Sussex Co.; m. Joseph
Wharton Sr.
I seek the ancestry and details about the life of John, the elder--also
added detail about the lives of those representing the succeeding
generations shown above.
Thanks for your attention,
Tom Camfield - camf...@olympus.net
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 88
Today's Topics:
#1 AUSTINS of Islington London [Penny Ling <ling...@netcomuk.co.u]
#2 RUSCOFFS of Dorset and London [Penny Ling <ling...@netcomuk.co.u]
#3 REMINDER IRELAND CHAT SESSION [H...@REMOVETHIScarebear.demon.co.uk]
#4 Re: Best shareware Geneological so [just...@aol.com (Just Geo1)]
#5 Re: Software [just...@aol.com (Just Geo1)]
#6 Re: Homeopathic Hospital, Rhode Is [Penny Ling <ling...@netcomuk.co.u]
#7 F C O R [jch...@getthe.net (church jim)]
#8 Re: FTM Upgrade Order ?? [cha...@aol.com (Chanio)]
#9 F C O R [jch...@getthe.net (church jim)]
#10 WILLIAMS, Roger *1604 +1683 [d...@sparkasse.net (Jakob Moehs)]
#11 MARSH/HALEY-MONTICELLO INDIANA [daniel <dan...@iglou.com>]
#12 Re: ship: Gallia - england > USA p [sean...@world.std.com (SeanRuad~)]
#13 Re: RUSCOFFS of Dorset and London [James A Honeychuck <jimhoney@world]
#14 Re: Where is Newton, Northern Irel [s...@harvee.billerica.ma.us (Susan ]
#15 Re: FAMILY TREES [lo...@iol.it (Luciano )]
#16 Re: FAMILY TREES [lo...@iol.it (Luciano )]
#17 Robert Halfyard of Toronto Canada [royl...@seaskippersacad.co.za (R]
#18 (HSP)Historical Society of Pennsyl [botw...@aol.com (Botwinick)]
#19 Where's 1791 Jamaica Presbyterian [lyleh...@aol.com (LyleH29423)]
#20 SHIP ARRIVAL 1820 ["Dave Adams" <dkadams@concentric.n]
#21 LARIMER [lar...@security.win-uk.net (John ]
#22 Re: German translations [hcal...@aol.com (HCALTMANN)]
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X-Message: #1
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 17:03:00 +0100
From: Penny Ling <ling...@netcomuk.co.uk>
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Hello, this is my Austin Tree, I'm trying to find out Frederick 1a)'s
ancestors, where they came from and when they got to London.
Anyone who has access to London Census between 1841 and 1881 may find a
clue.Lilian Beatrice AUSTIN was my Maternal grandmother. They all
lived around central London, near Tower of London as children
and moved to Kings Cross, Rodney Street, and Angel Islington Area
of London during WW1, many moved out to suburbs during German Bombing
of 1940/41 and I grew up with many of them living on my street
as a child in the 1960's
1a) Frederick AUSTIN b. About 1840, possibly London but may be Aberdeen,
family tradition has it the Austin's originated as Merchant sailors
from Aberdeen . Married Emmy ?
2a) Ellen AUSTIN b. About 1865 London. M.Joseph CHANNER
3a) Polly CHANNER b.anytime around 1885-90 London. M. Ted
4a) ?
4a) ?
4a) ?
3b) Joseph CHANNER
3c) Arthur CHANNER d.1916 in WW1
3d) Ernest CHANNER
2e) Frederick AUSTIN b.1867 London d.11/5/1927 aged 60. Occ.Sports
equipment maker. Notorious for his drinking,
most of the families income went on his beer.
m. Bertha NICHOLSON in 1888
3e) Frederick AUSTIN b.1894 Holborn area of London
3f) Lilian Beatrice AUSTIN b.2/4/1896 Holborn, worked during
WW1 as a "Canary girl" making munitions. Later worked as
cook at The Dorchester Hotel London.
M. George Gustave RUSCOFF in 1921.
D. Dec 1981 of cancer. She is remembered as the perfect
grandmother "with a very slippery knee!"
See Ruscoff tree for offspring.
3g) William "Dick" AUSTIN b.1898 worked for many years
at Dixons, retired twice but was even working up
until his 80's moved out to Kingsbury London during WW2
lived opposite Lilian B AUSTIN/RUSCOFF. M.Lilian ?
4g) Sheila AUSTIN m. Richard HARRIS, she later
became a Jehovah's witness
5g) Nicholas HARRIS b. 1970's
5g) Laura HARRIS
3h) Alfred AUSTIN b. About 1900 m. Mary ?
4h) John AUSTIN
4h) Richard AUSTIN
5h) ?
4h) June AUSTIN
5h) ?
4h) Charles AUSTIN
5h) ?
4h) Maureen AUSTIN
5h) ?
5h) ?
3i) May AUSTIN b. About 1902 d. 1982 m.Harry SKINNER
moved to Toronto Canada after WW2
4i) Patrisha SKINNER b1930's m.Alfred JEW
Toronto Canada
4j) Peter SKINNER b.1930's m. Marjorie ?
Toronto Canada
5j) Lesley SKINNER
3k) Albert AUSTIN m. Marjorie ?
4k) Jennifer AUSTIN lives in North London
5k) Lucy
5K) Robin
3l) Ellen "Nell" AUSTIN b.1911m. Harold PARSONS moved
from central London to Kingsbury in WW2 then to
Kettering Northants, in 1971 d.1986
4l) Jean PARSONS b. 1940's m. Kenneth EADE moved
from Kingsbury out to Kettering Nothants in 1960's
because housing so expensive in London
5l) Carol EADE b. 1960 m. Glyn AMOS
6l) Selina AMOS b.1982
Kettering Nothants
6l) David AMOS b. 1984 Kettering
Northants
5m) Brian EADE b. 1964 Kettering Occ. Painter
and decorator
3n) Charles AUSTIN b.1914 was out in Burma during WW2,
contracted Malaria. M. Winifred
4n) David AUSTIN b.1940's
5n) ?
5n) ?
4p) Kenneth AUSTIN
5p)
3q) Amy AUSTIN b.1918 d.1995 m. James BURGESS, Amy moved out
to Kingsbury during WW2 and lived next door but one to
Lilian.Jim disappeared when children were young,
found many years later living with someone else!
4q) Christine BURGESS b. 1940's m. Robert YOUNG moved
from Kingsbury out to Dunstable, divorced in 1970's
died in mid 1980's after falling down flight of
stairs and breaking her neck.
5q) Stella YOUNG b.1962 m.1986 lives
Dunstable area
5q) Jeffrey YOUNG b.21/11/1965
4r) Pamela BURGESS b.1940,s twin. M. Jeremy R0BERTS
5r) Mark ROBERTS b.1970's
5r) Gerard ROBERTS b.1970's
4s) Edna BURGESS b.1940's m. Philip SALISBURY in
1976 at Kenton,now they live near
Cheshunt 5s) Claire Louise SALISBURY b.1982
5s) Anne Marie SALISBURY b. 1984
2t) Herbert AUSTIN m.May NICHOLSON sister to Bertha,
see Nicholson tree
2u) Ernest AUSTIN m. Nell ?
3u) Nell AUSTIN
3u) Ernest AUSTIN
3u) ?
3u) ?
2v) Walter AUSTIN
2w) Henrietta AUSTIN m. ? MARTIN
3w) Florence Martin
2x) Alice AUSTIN m. Edward WRETHAM
3y) William BURGESS
3Y) Lilian BURGESS
3y) Cecilia BURGESS
3y) "Bonky" BURGESS - Don't ask!
2z) Lilian AUSTIN
Anyone recogise anyone please email direct on
ling...@netcomuk.co.uk
regards
Penny Ling
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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 17:06:02 +0100
From: Penny Ling <ling...@netcomuk.co.uk>
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Is there any one who can give me more information on this
part of my family. The Ruscoffs have been rather illusive
because we reckon that it wasn't his proper name, It may
have been difficult for the English to pronounce so they
gave him the surname Ruscoff because that's where he came
from in Brittany.
When did they come to London from Dorset? Was it before
Blanche and Gustave were born or after? If anyone has
census returns for 1881 for whitechapel area of London
or Poole Dorset, do these names ring a bell?
Also anyone know when the Franco-Prussian War/the Paris
uprising took place?
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Ruscoff Tree
Gustave RUSCOFF b ab 1840 in Brittany was an Onion Johnnie
and a soldier married Mary Ann ? from Poole Dorset,
It is thought that he died during the Franco-Prussian War,
I know he fought in that because he had a medal,
but I don't know if he died in it.
after Gustave died she married again this time a Ponds
2a) Blanche RUSCOFF
2b) Gustave Louie RUSCOFF b.1873 d.13/3/1947( was in Royal Fusiliers?)
m. Pricilla THOMS in 1891 at St Martin's in the field London
3b) Marie Blanche RUSCOFF (Poll) b. 20/11/1893 d.1/1/1988 m.
William HAYES
4b) Winifred HAYES
4b) Cecilia HAYES
4b) Joan HAYES
3c) George Gustave RUSCOFF b.4/12/1896 d.4/7/1978 born St Georges
Bloomsbury fought in WW1 in Royal Field Artillery,
was at the Somme, married Lilian Beatrice AUSTIN in 1921
4c) George RUSCOFF died as child
4d) Winifred RUSCOFF b.26/2/1923 d.16/3/1979
m.Ernst PORIES, Lived in Stonebridge Park Wembley, all
married life, Ernst was smuggled to Britain by the Red
Cross during Nazi Occupation of Austria, family wiped out
by Nazi's, went on to gain degree in engineering, worked
for DeHavillend and Rolls Royce designing Engines. Wini
died of Breat cancer in 1979
4e) George William RUSCOFF b.1926 d.1983 was in Royal Navy
m.Marjorie SCRIBBENS moved to Canada and joined Canadian
Airforce
5e) Irene Louise RUSCOFF b.1953 m.Harold PARSONS
Born in Britain now lives in Bristish Columbia
6e) Katherine PARSONS b. 1970 Canada
6e) Harold PARSONS b.1971 Canada
6e) Richard PARSONS b.1973 Canada
6e) Nathan PARSONS b.1974 born Germany now
lives in Canada
5f) Alexandra RUSCOFF b.1955 m. Maurice Laprize
(div) m. Harold Van Birkirk in Canada
6f) George Harold VanBirkirk b.1981
6f) ?
6f) ?
5g) George RUSCOFF b.1957 m. Lorraine BROWN Canada
6g) ?
6g) ?
5h) Victoria RUSCOFF b.1959 m.
Robert Thompson Canada
6h) Kimberley Victoria THOMPSON
6h) Heather THOMPSON
5i) Katherine RUSCOFF b. 1963 Canada
4j) Joan RUSCOFF b.12/6.1933 m.Oct 1954 Paul Anthony
REYNOLDS. Was cook at D H Evans Oxfod Street,
last job was customer Services at Marks and Spencer Brent
Cross, born Kingscross London, lived for time in Canada but
moved back due to lack of work, lived in West Hendon,
Colindale and now both live in Uckfiled Sussex
5k) Susan Pauline REYNOLDS b.9/4/1955 worked for
Tesco then Barclays bank after leaving school,
married Richard FUGGLE in 1991 who also works at
Barclays Bank live in Hertfordshire UK
6k) Christopher FUGGLE b.28/4/1989
6k) Sarah FUGGLE b.28 /3/1992
5l) Peter Michael REYNOLDS b. 21/1/1957 Worked for
Building society after school, was a talented
artist, was a scout leader and enjoyed sport,
unfortunately he developed a rare form of Leukemia
and died in 1988 aged only 31
5m) David Paul REYNOLDS b.9/2/1963 works as a
manager for company in charge of drivers, met
girlfiend Sally there, now both live Colindale,
London.
6m) Peter REYNOLDS b.1994
4n) Joyce RUSCOFF b.24/12/1936 Kings Cross London, moved to
Kingsbury in 1940 due to German Bombing, went to Roe Green
Junior School, Claremont Secondary School and Harrow art
college, went on to work as Miliner for Delores in Dean
Street Soho during 1950's Married Ronald John LING 23/3/1957
in Kingsbury Parish Church, After birth of daughters went on
to work in Sainsburys, and Marks and Spencer Brent Cross.
Now lives in Uckfield Sussex
5n) Melanie Jane LING b.26/8/1961 Kingsbury London,
went to Roe Green Junior School, Kingsbury High
School,Oxford Polytechnic. Gained degree in
Geology, went on to work for Habitat and now Tesco
head office,
5n) Penelope Ann LING b.20/11/1965 Kingsbury, as
above with education was at school at same time as
George Michael - Roe Green and Courteney Pine -
Kingsbury High, gained degree in Architecture in
1987,worked as graphic designer for Auto Trader,
Oxford Mail and Times, works as WebMaster for
European Electronique near Oxford. Married to
Richard PYKE, no children or pets, just a mortgage
and a computer!
3p) William RUSCOFF b.1897 m.Cecilia HALL
4p) Cecilia RUSCOFF died as child
4p) William RUSCOFF b.sometime between 1920-1935
4p) John RUSCOFF b.as above
4p) Frederick RUSCOFF b. As above
3q) Francis RUSCOFF b.1898
3r) Charles "Titch" RUSCOFFb.1900 d.1979 m. Rose GOLDSMITH
3s) Louise RUSCOFF b.1905 twin of Amelia m. Freddy DEAR
4t) Frederick DEAR b. about 1925-1935
5t) ?
5t) ?
4u) Michael DEAR
5u) ?
5u) ?
4v) Christine DEAR
5v) ?
5v) ?
3w) Amelia RUSCOFF b.1905 m.James ?
4w) ?
4w) ?
4w) Milicent or Amelia
4w) ?
4w) ?
4w) ?
4w) Alan
3x) Dorothy "Dotsie" RUSCOFF m. Douglas GOWER
4x) Linda GOWER b.1930's m. Kenneth
4y) Douglas GOWER b.1930's
5y) Paul GOWER
5z) Michael GOWER
6z) ?
5aa) Tony GOWER
6aa) ?
6aa) ?
5ab) Mandy GOWER
6ab) ?
4ac) Barbara GOWER m. Norman
5ac) ?
5ac) ?
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Also if anyone is related I would love to hear from them
Regards
Penny Ling
ling...@netcomuk.co.uk
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X-Message: #3
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 17:43:20 +0100
Message-ID: <HLA-140997...@carebear.demon.co.uk>
Subject: REMINDER IRELAND CHAT SESSION
Hi all,
Reminder of the IRELAND Genealogy Chat meeting:
When:
Monday at 9pm UK time (8pm GMT)
(for a time conversion visit..
http://www.iigs.org/webmasters/faq/time_chart.htm )
Where:
Server : irc.IIGS.org
port : 6667 or 7000
Channel : #iigs-UKgen
For details on how to join if you are new .. visit
http://www.iigs.org/irc/index.htm
or contact:
chat...@carebear.demon.co.uk
Thank you for your time.
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X-Message: #4
Date: 14 Sep 1997 16:49:21 GMT
From: just...@aol.com (Just Geo1)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970914164...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Best shareware Geneological software program for novice
In article <5vfn2f$kts$1...@client2.news.psi.net>, "Trussell"
<krus...@omicron.net> writes:
>
>Any options on Genealogy software in general? I'd like to start with a
>shareware program then move up.
>
>
Try Parsons Family Origins: Phone is 1-800-779-6000, URL is
http://www.parsonstech.com. Have fun!
Jolly Time BBS
Just for the Halibut!
(206) 244-8108
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X-Message: #5
Date: 14 Sep 1997 16:49:20 GMT
From: just...@aol.com (Just Geo1)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970914164...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Software
>
>I have just found this newsgroup. I have been using "Personal Roots" to
>create my family tree - I have found it very limiting. It doesn't allow
>for maidens names, divorces, or for storing much other information. Can
>someone recommend a more comprehensive family tree creator? (or where to
>start looking on the web?) I have heard that the Church of the Latter
>Day Saints has a good version - but I haven't been able to locate it on
>the web??
I use Parsons Family Origins, and you can call or use the web to download
a trial version.
Phone is 1-800-779-6000. URL is http://www.parsonstech.com. Good Luck!
Jolly Time BBS
Just for the Halibut!
(206) 244-8108
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X-Message: #6
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 18:00:22 +0100
From: Penny Ling <ling...@netcomuk.co.uk>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341C18...@netcomuk.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Homeopathic Hospital, Rhode Island
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> What is a Homeopathic Hospital anyway?
>
Homeopathy is an alternative form of medicine, it takes a substance
which causes the same symptoms as the illness, "like cures like" and
dilutes it down to it's molecular level so there is very small traces
of the original substance. It is then given in an alcohol or sugar
sweet form, it then produces the effect of the illness and encourages
the body's immune system to kick in and finish off the cure.
It does work on many patients, babies and animals so it's not a placebo.
Obviously it was too late for your ggrandfather!
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X-Message: #7
Date: 14 Sep 1997 10:05:42 -0700
From: jch...@getthe.net (church jim)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3.0.3.16.1997091...@206.172.36.2>
Subject: F C O R
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>
>I've been communicating with the daughter of my first cousin.
>That would make her (the daughter) my "first cousin once removed".
>Would I also be her ( " " ) "first cousin once removed"?
>
As I remeber it Henry a First Cousin is a First Cousin, if you are a First
Cousin once Removed from somebody obviously they would have to be the same
to you. I THINK! Your fist cousin once removed would be your childrens
second cousin, while their children would always be removed from you ie. 1s
cousin twice removed, 1st cousin 3 times removed, etc.
Jim
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X-Message: #8
Date: 14 Sep 1997 17:05:44 GMT
From: cha...@aol.com (Chanio)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970914170...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: FTM Upgrade Order ??
I received mine in 2 days.
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X-Message: #9
Date: 14 Sep 1997 10:12:07 -0700
From: jch...@getthe.net (church jim)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3.0.3.16.1997091...@206.172.36.2>
Subject: F C O R
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>I've been communicating with the daughter of my first cousin.
>That would make her (the daughter) my "first cousin once removed".
>Would I also be her ( " " ) "first cousin once removed"?
>
Recipient: <Henry.L...@csource.com>
Reason: User does not have access to receive mail
Henry how is it that you can send mail but not receive it?
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X-Message: #10
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 17:12:04 GMT
From: d...@sparkasse.net (Jakob Moehs)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341c1418...@news.nacamar.de>
Subject: WILLIAMS, Roger *1604 +1683
Hi,
I'm looking for the sons and anchestors of Roger WILLIAMS.
He was the founder of RI.
Jakob
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X-Message: #11
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 12:52:58 GMT
From: daniel <dan...@iglou.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341BDE...@iglou.com>
Subject: MARSH/HALEY-MONTICELLO INDIANA
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I'm searching for information on the children, grandchildren and
great grandchildren of GILBERT EARL MARSH and OLLIE TINDALL MARSH.
Their daughter Wanda MARSH HALEY, was living in Monticello in 1988
when her father died June 19, 1988.
I'd like to hear from any of them or anyone that knows there
wherabouts. I'm a second cousin to Gilbert Marsh and currently
working on the Marsh Family History.
Steve Franklin
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X-Message: #12
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 17:31:56 GMT
From: sean...@world.std.com (SeanRuad~)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <EGIE1...@world.std.com>
Subject: Re: ship: Gallia - england > USA photo?
Jim Szczodrowski (jam...@buffnet.net) wrote:
: anyone have a photo of the ship Gallia. it was from the 1880's and
: traveled from england to new york.
have photocopies of pix of 2 ships named SS Gallia from that period -
SS GALLIA, 1878 Cunard Line and SS GALLIA, 1883 Cypriene Fabre
- actually the earlier one looks like a photocopy of a drawing or
painting rather than a photo - would you like copies?
regards, SeanRuad~ *{:-) near Boston
Project Director for _The IreAtlas Project_ - Phase II is now
50% completed - you are invited to check our web site progress at
http://www.thecore.com/cgi-bin/ire-srch || COMMENTS WELCOME
of the BRODERICKs of Ballymalis, Co. Kerry, near the castle, and
the WHELTONs of Desert, Clonakilty, near the quarry
e-mail: sean...@world.std.com
tel: 7 days ( EST 6am-6pm only ) (617) 646-3236
snail mail: 1424 Massachusetts Avenue
Arlington, MA 02174-4134 U.S.A.
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X-Message: #13
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 13:37:09 -0400
From: James A Honeychuck <jimh...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vh7l8$8...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: RUSCOFFS of Dorset and London
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Penny Ling wrote:
>
> Is there any one who can give me more information on this
> part of my family. The Ruscoffs have been rather illusive
> because we reckon that it wasn't his proper name, It may
> have been difficult for the English to pronounce so they
> gave him the surname Ruscoff because that's where he came
> from in Brittany.
> When did they come to London from Dorset? Was it before
> Blanche and Gustave were born or after? If anyone has
> census returns for 1881 for whitechapel area of London
> or Poole Dorset, do these names ring a bell?
> Also anyone know when the Franco-Prussian War/the Paris
> uprising took place?
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Ruscoff Tree
>
> Gustave RUSCOFF b ab 1840 in Brittany was an Onion Johnnie
> and a soldier married Mary Ann ? from Poole Dorset,
> It is thought that he died during the Franco-Prussian War,
> I know he fought in that because he had a medal,
> but I don't know if he died in it.
(more)
France declared war on Prussia July 19, 1870. Armistice January 28,
1871. The Commune of Paris was the government there from Mar. 18 to May
28, 1871.
I assume the Ruscoff in the Abney Park Cemetery, London, is yours. See
http://www.cam.org/~hopkde/names-r.html
Jim
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X-Message: #14
Date: 14 Sep 1997 16:42:01 GMT
From: s...@harvee.billerica.ma.us (Susan Mudgett aka little gator)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vh44p$i...@harvee.billerica.ma.us>
Subject: Re: Where is Newton, Northern Ireland?
I've been unable to find another town-Kaython, which is said to be in
Cork or possibly Clare, maybe a coastal town. An ancestor of mine was
said to be born there in the 1840s and left there in the 1850s.
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X-Message: #15
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 17:53:01 GMT
From: lo...@iol.it (Luciano )
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <30586b40...@iol-news.iol.it>
Subject: Re: FAMILY TREES
KITH AND KIN contact nick....@almac.co.uk
and
FAMILY ORIGINS visit http://www.parsonstech.com
Luciano Prinzivalli
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5735
m.tu...@ukonline.co.uk (Maurice Turner) wrote:
>I am looking for a program that will allow me to show my family tree
>graphically on my web page. Can anyone help
>
>Maurice Turner
>Turners of Hertfordshire
>http://web.ukonline.co.uk/m.turner3/
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X-Message: #16
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 17:53:00 GMT
From: lo...@iol.it (Luciano )
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3058623d...@iol-news.iol.it>
Subject: Re: FAMILY TREES
I have purchased KITH AND KIM and FAMILY ORIGINS. Both programs are
very good.
You can found them: the first in writing at
nick....@almac.co.uk
and the second in visiting the Home Page
http://www.parsonstech.com
Luciano Prinzivalli
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5735
m.tu...@ukonline.co.uk (Maurice Turner) wrote:
>I am looking for a program that will allow me to show my family tree
>graphically on my web page. Can anyone help
>
>Maurice Turner
>Turners of Hertfordshire
>http://web.ukonline.co.uk/m.turner3/
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X-Message: #17
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 97 18:12:53 GMT
From: royl...@seaskippersacad.co.za (Roy Lawson)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <N.091497.201253.80@ROY>
Subject: Robert Halfyard of Toronto Canada
Hi
I am trying to get into contact with Robert Halfyard of Toronto. He is a
researcher of the Henwood Family name.
If anyone can help please contact me.
TIA
--
Roy Lawson
Sea Skippers Academy
http://users.iafrica.com/s/sh/shorstop/
"Experience is the name everyone gives to his mistakes"
Oscar Wilde
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X-Message: #18
Date: 14 Sep 1997 18:18:06 GMT
From: botw...@aol.com (Botwinick)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970914181...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: (HSP)Historical Society of Pennsylvania closing
The (HSP)Historical Society of PA will be closed for renovation from Nov
97 to Apr 98.
The HSP is de-accessioning almost all non print/written materials and
becoming a research library only at the cost of millions of dollars for
renovations.
This major genealogical depository institution is located in Philadelphia.
Milton E. Botwinick [professional genealogist] mil...@aol.com POB
13464 Philadelphia, PA
19101-3464 phone #215-WA5-0379 #609-869-0368
http://members.aol.com/botwinick
http://members.aol.com/botwinick/botwin.htm
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X-Message: #19
Date: 14 Sep 1997 18:24:50 GMT
From: lyleh...@aol.com (LyleH29423)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970914182...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Where's 1791 Jamaica Presbyterian Church
I have a reference from a book identified as Presbyterian Births Jamaica
NY by Josephine C. Frost. I do not know if that is the exact title. The
reference is for the birth of John Hendrickson on 20 May 1791 to John
Hendrickson and Jane Foster who were married on One July 1779.
My questions are, (1) Where was the church located, (2) Did the church
have a burial ground. If not, where might the parishoners be buried, (3)
Is that the exact title of the book, and lastly, (4) is there a similar
book dealing with marriages at this church for the 1800-1840 period.
My questions arise for the son, John Hendrickson. I am seeking his
marriage/children/death records. I would be grateful for any information or
other source. Email replies appreciated as well as posts to this group. Thanks.
Lyle Hendrickson
ly...@aol.com
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X-Message: #20
Date: 14 Sep 1997 19:04:02 GMT
From: "Dave Adams" <dka...@concentric.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc137$dc436e60$2461adce@DKADAMS>
Subject: SHIP ARRIVAL 1820
My G Grandfather Jacob Adams was born at sea in 1820 believed coming from
Germany and arriving in Virginia. Does anyone know how to find any more
information. Thank you in advance for any help. Dave
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X-Message: #21
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 19:54:36 GMT
From: lar...@security.win-uk.net (John M. Larimer)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5...@security.win-uk.net>
Subject: LARIMER
Researching surname LARIMER. Anywhere, anytime. TIA any response.
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X-Message: #22
Date: 14 Sep 1997 20:33:46 GMT
From: hcal...@aol.com (HCALTMANN)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970914203...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: German translations
barney.b...@moobasi.com (Barney Barnhardt) wrote:
> translating German to English. Could someone who has that address ...
tr...@genealogy.net is what you want.
Put #GER>ENG in the first line of your message, then start your text
in the second line.
Text not to exceed 40 lines. -- Heinz
HCAl...@aol.com (Heinz Altmann)
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 89
Today's Topics:
#1 Broderbund. [den...@gte.net]
#2 Boston, Massachusetts Telephone Di [amat...@inforamp.net (Cathy / Yur]
#3 New York Marriages ["LEONARD V. BABCOCK" <L.V.BABCOCK]
#4 WHALEY>VA, KY, MO>1750- ["Roger Lloyd" <rll...@tstonramp.co]
#5 Re: World Family Tree [Lori <lhof...@seidata.com>]
#6 Re: World Family Tree [cwsu...@nr.infi.net (Charles Sull]
#7 Re: Militar Bases ["Jan S. Weinmann" <jweinman@bellso]
#8 Re: Best shareware Geneological so [br...@wn.com.au (Brian Kings)]
#9 Re: Best shareware Geneological so [Daniel LoTempio <lotempioga@postof]
#10 German Immigrants to Baltimore??? [msp...@ionet.net (Dan & Debbie)]
#11 Re: Broderbund. [cwsu...@nr.infi.net (Charles Sull]
#12 Where is ZIP code 'XX762' as liste [cwsu...@nr.infi.net (Charles Sull]
#13 Re: FULLER, Hannah; MA, USA; 1658 [phe...@gwi.net (Peter H. Elias, M.]
#14 Frederick William Wills [jsat...@idt.net]
#15 Hardanger [bel...@netins.net]
#16 Re: Detroit City Directories [ste...@aol.com (StellaP)]
#17 Re: Best shareware Geneological so [The Nortons <vik...@dreamscape.co]
#18 Re: Make$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ [Bob Glaubitz <blgla...@isle.net>]
#19 Re: Broderbund. [Bob Glaubitz <blgla...@isle.net>]
#20 WFT Serial # [Barbara Butler <barbbuck@pacbell.n]
#21 Re: Genealogy software [Diane Jarvie <di...@accessin.com..]
#22 Philena and Philanda ["Allan Abrahamse" <allanabr@worldn]
#23 Re: WILLIAMS, Roger *1604 +1683 ["Allan Abrahamse" <allanabr@worldn]
#24 Re: 1920 census abbreviations ["emcrcc" <emc...@erols.com>]
#25 SILVESTER/SYLVESTER ["Anthony I. Sylvester" <Osprey@pin]
#26 City Directories ??? [Chris <chris...@ecsu.campus.mci.]
#27 Paris, Ontario, Canada [tne...@interlog.com (Tim Nelson)]
#28 Nathaniel Hawthorne [margo...@aol.com (MargoBelle)]
#29 Re: World Family Tree ["Donna Suarez" <dsu...@cts.com>]
#30 25,300+ names and 3300+ surnames ["James L. Edenfield" <e...@hom.net>]
#31 Re: City Directories ??? [rwill...@aol.com (RWilli1380)]
#32 CD's [gatc...@intersatx.net (Bill Gatch]
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X-Message: #1
Date: 14 Sep 1997 13:39:33 -0700
From: den...@gte.net
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Hi to all,
Last week, I think it was now, I wrote to all of you, saying I submitted
all my info, to FTM, before I was on the net long, but since have heard
about them and all of your views on it. Now wishing I had not did it.
Also when you submit to them you are to get a 10.00 discount off your
next purchass, and I had not heard one word from them and it had been
like 2 months or longer.
Well how strange, the day before yesterday, I received in the mail, a
post card from them with my 10.00 discount on it!!!! (this was a few days
after I posted to the list). Just wish they had told me they burnt my
info and it will not appear on the CD's instead....
Cathy in Oregon
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X-Message: #2
Date: 14 Sep 1997 21:00:27 GMT
From: amat...@inforamp.net (Cathy / Yuri Amatnieks)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vhj9b$m...@news.inforamp.net>
Subject: Boston, Massachusetts Telephone Directory
>cabo...@aol.com (Cabowin1) wrote:
>Does anyone have access to such a directory dated 1954/1955, or earlier
>1950's? Please E-mail
>e-mail: Cabo...@juno.com
>
Although you don't mention what exactly you're searching for, you may
be able to get some assistance from the Boston Public Library. Their
website is at:
They have a research submission page and may be able to help you. I
have not had occasion to use it, myself, but I would expect them to
have such a directory and be able to assist you if you give them
specific information.
Good luck!
Cathy (Donovan) Amatnieks
amat...@inforamp.net
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X-Message: #3
Date: 14 Sep 1997 22:29:22 GMT
From: "LEONARD V. BABCOCK" <L.V.B...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vhog2$n...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: New York Marriages
I read that there is a CD-ROM #402 listing NY marriages of the 1700s and
1800s, but I have not been able to locate and owner. I would appreciate a
lookup for Timothy Babcock to Hannah or Hanna Petlet or Pettit if you have
this CD. Thanks.
Len Babcock
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X-Message: #4
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:52:13 -0700
From: "Roger Lloyd" <rll...@tstonramp.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vch6a$4fb$1...@madmax.keyway.net>
Subject: WHALEY>VA, KY, MO>1750-
http://www.geocities.com/heartland/meadows/7476
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X-Message: #5
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 17:50:29 -0500
From: Lori <lhof...@seidata.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: World Family Tree
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Bill,
> Anyway of getting submitter's name without purchases the CD? There's
> only one I've found my surname on, thats Volume #2. But to get the info
> from their webpager server you need to know the CD ID#...
Yes, on my genealogy page is a link to site that has WFT
Submitters.......
www.seidata.com/~lhoffman/gen.html
Lori
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X-Message: #6
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 97 22:53:06 GMT
From: cwsu...@nr.infi.net (Charles Sullivan)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vhpsi$fng...@nr.infi.net>
Subject: Re: World Family Tree
In article <3416EF...@intersatx.net>,
Bill Gatchell <gatc...@intersatx.net> wrote:
>I seen on the World Family Tree webpage they have an option of finding
>out the submitter of different surnames. I don't currently own WFT.
>Anyway of getting submitter's name without purchases the CD? There's
>only one I've found my surname on, thats Volume #2. But to get the info
>from their webpager server you need to know the CD ID#...
>
>Bill Gatchell
>San Antonio, Tx
>gatc...@intersatx.net
They offer a 90 day money back guarantee, so just buy the CD and if the
data isn't worth what you pay, then send it back. I've spent more $$ for
a lot less info than I got from the WFT.
Regards,
Charles Sullivan
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X-Message: #7
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 13:24:08 -0400
From: "Jan S. Weinmann" <jwei...@bellsouth.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341ACC38...@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Militar Bases
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Ken Nelson wrote:
> I am running into some situations where the individual was born on a
> military base. My question concerns the county and city the military
> base are considered for genealogy purposes. And would the state have
> their Birth Certificates on file or would that be a federal thing.
My daughter was born on Columbus Air Force Base, MS in 1985. Her
birth is registered with the state. I suspect this is the norm for
bases on US soil, at least for the recent past, but can't confirm this.
I'm afraid I don't know how bases on foreign soil do it.
Jan
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X-Message: #8
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 09:59:53 GMT
From: br...@wn.com.au (Brian Kings)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vhqnn$n7h$1...@loomi.telstra.net>
Subject: Re: Best shareware Geneological software program for novice
"Trussell" <krus...@omicron.net> wrote:
Sir,
IMHO PAF 2.31 or PAF 3.0 is a good one to start with - as you become
more familiar with the program you can then move up to Legacy 2.0,
which is an excellent piece of software for the more serious
genealogist.
Brian Kings
>Any options on Genealogy software in general? I'd like to start with a
>shareware program then move up.
>Thanks!
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X-Message: #9
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 03:39:34 -0400
From: Daniel LoTempio <lotem...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341B94...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Best shareware Geneological software program for novice
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Trussell wrote:
>
> Any options on Genealogy software in general? I'd like to start with a
> shareware program then move up.
>
> Thanks!You can't go wrong with Brothers Keepers, shareware, it has all the
bells and whistles, easy to use but some of the tree charts are not too
good so far as paper usage is concerned.
Add as much information to each person as you can, it will come in handy
later. Have Fun.
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X-Message: #10
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 23:52:52 GMT
From: msp...@ionet.net (Dan & Debbie)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341c76dc...@ion2.ionet.net>
Subject: German Immigrants to Baltimore???
Recently while digging through a book I came across a referance to The Schuh family.
It listed "German Immigrants to Baltimore" by Morgan H. Pritchett and Wust. Klaus... Vol 38, Part 1
pg 108.
Does anyone have access to this book? If so could you please give me any information listed?
There are 3 SCHUHs listed, Barb, G. and Jacob, says they arrived in 1854 but thats all my book
tells me.
I know that MY Jacob came to Baltimore in 1854 along with his wife and 4 children, could this be the
same Jacob? Did they only list heads of housesholds? Can I possibly assume that these other Schuhs
are somehow related?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Debbie
The Schuh Family <Dan, Debbie, Dottie and Kodiak James>
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X-Message: #11
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 97 23:50:44 GMT
From: cwsu...@nr.infi.net (Charles Sullivan)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vht8k$fp0...@nr.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Broderbund.
In article <341D9B...@gte.net>, den...@gte.net wrote:
>Hi to all,
>
>Last week, I think it was now, I wrote to all of you, saying I submitted
>all my info, to FTM, before I was on the net long, but since have heard
>about them and all of your views on it. Now wishing I had not did it.
>Also when you submit to them you are to get a 10.00 discount off your
>next purchass, and I had not heard one word from them and it had been
>like 2 months or longer.
>
>Well how strange, the day before yesterday, I received in the mail, a
>post card from them with my 10.00 discount on it!!!! (this was a few days
>after I posted to the list). Just wish they had told me they burnt my
>info and it will not appear on the CD's instead....
>
>Cathy in Oregon
You'll probably feel differently if you get a response from an unknown
distant cousin who can extend your family tree.
But I'm interested in why you feel the way you do now. IMHO there are a
lot of whiners posting to the newsgroup about BB, who feel that BB ought
to invest money in publishing the WFT CDs, then give them away for free.
Regards,
Charles Sullivan (not associated in any way with BB except as a customer.)
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X-Message: #12
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 97 00:04:02 GMT
From: cwsu...@nr.infi.net (Charles Sullivan)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vhu1i$fp0...@nr.infi.net>
Subject: Where is ZIP code 'XX762' as listed in SSDI ?
An entry in the Social Security Death Index (both the CD110 and
online versions) lists the ZIP code of last residence as 'XX762'.
Does anyone know what this stands for? The SSN was issued in IL
and the individual died in 1984 if that makes any difference.
(The online version is at 'http://www.ancestry.com/ssdi'.)
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Charles Sullivan cwsu...@nr.infi.net
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X-Message: #13
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 20:39:02 -0400
From: phe...@gwi.net (Peter H. Elias, M.D.)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <B041FBE6...@lewpc8.gwi.net>
Subject: Re: FULLER, Hannah; MA, USA; 1658
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In article <01bcbf72$cab57d80$ee8c82d1@default>,
"Jim Bridges" <jimb...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>Seek proof of ancestry of Hannah FULLER who m. Nicholas BONHAM on 1 Jan
>1658 in Barnstable, MA.
>
>
Mayflower Families Through Five Generations, Volume 4, 2nd Edition, Family
of Edward Fuller, published by the General Society of Mayflower Descendants
in 1995.
Page 13, lists Hannah Fuller (Samuel, Edward) (b. Scituate ca. 1636, d.
Piscataway, NJ after 23 Aug. 1686 when she posted bond as executrix of the
will of her husband with Edward Slater as fellow bondsman). She m.
Barnstable 1 Jan. 1658/9 Nicholas Bonham (b. England ca. 1630; d.
Piscataway, NJ 20 July 1684). References are listed on page 14 of this
work.
Hope this helps. She is my 9 GGM.
Peter Elias (phe...@gwi.net)
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X-Message: #14
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 20:13:22 -0600
From: jsat...@idt.net
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <8742855...@dejanews.com>
Subject: Frederick William Wills
I am seeking information Frederick William Wills and his parents.
Frederick Wills was born in Albemarle Virginia, circa 1742. It is said
that his parents were William Wills and Elizabeth ? Does anyone know
of
this family.
Thank you,
Edie Suttle
-------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
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X-Message: #15
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 20:21:30 -0600
From: bel...@netins.net
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <8742861...@dejanews.com>
Subject: Hardanger
My Grandparents come to the US in the late 1800's fron Norway.
Hardanger was the name of the fjord.
The administrative Limits would follow the Parish lines,
and the place Lothe was under the Kinsarvik Parish.
Back then Lothe consisted of 6-8 basic farm units. My Grandmother's
maiden name was Aksnes. Can anyone help?
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X-Message: #16
Date: 15 Sep 1997 01:30:16 GMT
From: ste...@aol.com (StellaP)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970915013...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Detroit City Directories
Hello Jack,
You had written the following query:
>Can anyone tell me if City Directories for Detroit, Michigan for the
>years 1867 through 1877 are available through the LDS FHC's?
>-
I don't know if they would be available on film, but there are several
books at libraries and some LDS centers.
Are you looking for something in particular? I live just outside Detroit
and maybe I can help you.
Let me know,
Stella
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X-Message: #17
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 21:49:08 -0400
From: The Nortons <vik...@dreamscape.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341C94...@dreamscape.com>
Subject: Re: Best shareware Geneological software program for novice
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BirthWrite 1.7
ftp.winsite.com/pub/pc/win95/pim/birthw17.zip
The author is RM...@interlog.com
Just Geo1 wrote:
>
> In article <5vfn2f$kts$1...@client2.news.psi.net>, "Trussell"
> <krus...@omicron.net> writes:
>
>
>Any options on Genealogy software in general? I'd like to start with a
>shareware program then move up.
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X-Message: #18
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 17:12:13 -0700
From: Bob Glaubitz <blgla...@isle.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341C7D5D...@isle.net>
Subject: Re: Make$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$Read ThIs
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> This "chokmah" thingy must also masquerade as "camaro2" in another
> life, 'cause I just got the same garbage from it.
Dr. Whisky wrote:
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X-Message: #19
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 17:19:29 -0700
From: Bob Glaubitz <blgla...@isle.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341C7F11...@isle.net>
Subject: Re: Broderbund.
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> Right on Charles!!
Charles Sullivan wrote:
> In article <341D9B...@gte.net>, den...@gte.net wrote:
> >Hi to all,
> >
> >Last week, I think it was now, I wrote to all of you, saying I
> submitted
> >all my info, to FTM, before I was on the net long, but since have
> heard
> >about them and all of your views on it. Now wishing I had not did it.
>
> >Also when you submit to them you are to get a 10.00 discount off your
>
> >next purchass, and I had not heard one word from them and it had been
>
> >like 2 months or longer.
> >
> >Well how strange, the day before yesterday, I received in the mail, a
>
> >post card from them with my 10.00 discount on it!!!! (this was a few
> days
> >after I posted to the list). Just wish they had told me they burnt my
>
> >info and it will not appear on the CD's instead....
> >
> >Cathy in Oregon
>
> You'll probably feel differently if you get a response from an unknown
>
> distant cousin who can extend your family tree.
>
> But I'm interested in why you feel the way you do now. IMHO there are
> a
> lot of whiners posting to the newsgroup about BB, who feel that BB
> ought
> to invest money in publishing the WFT CDs, then give them away for
> free.
>
> Regards,
> Charles Sullivan (not associated in any way with BB except as a
> customer.)
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X-Message: #20
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 19:13:44 -0700
From: Barbara Butler <barb...@pacbell.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341C99D8...@pacbell.net>
Subject: WFT Serial #
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I purchased FTM with the 5 cds and am trying to find the submitter
information on 2 of them. The problem is FTM says they want a serial #
starting with 6 ???? My cd's only have these #'s V701_01, V702_01, etc
so how are you suppose to get the submitter info????????????
Barb
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X-Message: #21
Date: 15 Sep 97 01:10:29 GMT
From: Diane Jarvie <di...@accessin.com..au>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341c8b05.0@cactus>
Subject: Re: Genealogy software
"Darlene Beaver" <beav...@brightok.net> writes: > There are so many different types of software packages available. Can
> someone tell me if there is a common format that will work on the majority
> of them? I would like to put my research on the computer and also to pass
> it along to the LDS for their records. I only want to input it once, and
> have a easy working end product.
>
> All help would be appreciated. Thanks, Darlene (beav...@brightok.net)
You are right: there are so many on the market. Good programs have demonstration disks available and
only you can pick the best for your needs. HOWEVER, the important thing is to ensure that the
program you use has full GEDCOM support. This means you will be able to export (and import) your data
between other programs. GEDCOM is successful because it is a workable standard developed by the
LDS Church and is used for transfers to and from their major databases: Ancestral File and IGI.
Diane Jarvie
di...@accessin.com.au
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X-Message: #22
Date: 15 Sep 1997 02:22:09 GMT
From: "Allan Abrahamse" <alla...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vi64h$j...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Philena and Philanda
Does anybody know what, if anything, either of these two names mean?
Does anybody have any examples of either of these names
being given to a girl to honor a male relative named Philip?
Thanks
Allan Abrahamse
Long Beach, CA
alla...@worldnet.att.net
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X-Message: #23
Date: 15 Sep 1997 02:25:58 GMT
From: "Allan Abrahamse" <alla...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vi6bm$j...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: WILLIAMS, Roger *1604 +1683
Jakob Moehs <d...@sparkasse.net> wrote in article
<341c1418...@news.nacamar.de>...
> Hi,
> I'm looking for the sons and anchestors of Roger WILLIAMS.
> He was the founder of RI.
>
> Jakob
>
First four generations of descendants are given in Austin's
"Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island". Most libraries with
even a moderate genealogical section will have this book.
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X-Message: #24
Date: 15 Sep 1997 02:32:37 GMT
From: "emcrcc" <emc...@erols.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc17f$e2e99ee0$df2a...@emcrcc.erols.com>
Subject: Re: 1920 census abbreviations
remember, census data is only as complete as the census taker wanted it to
be....some were very conscientious while others were not so. "OC" is an
abbreviation that is sometimes found on census pages where the majority of
a street are immigrants from the same country or geographic area. "OC"
simply means "Old Country." It is believed that this abbreviation came
about when the census taker asked the birthplace, the respondent said "I
came from the Old Country...." and the census taker simply took that down.
Much of the "OC" abbreviations are found in easter European immigrant
data---
An example:
my maternal great-grandparents came from Hungary (the Austro-Hungarian
Empire to be exact) and one entry on a census is "OC," another time they
are noted as coming from Austria, and another census has them coming from
Hungary. They are definitely from Hungary--there is ample proof for that;
however the census taker wrote down what he thought he heard or believed to
be true. When you look down the page with the "OC" abbreviation, you can
see each entry with "OC" and coming from Austria or Bavaria.
"OC" is also found when the census taker just could not reasonably discern
exactly where the family came from. Particularly in eastern Europe there
were many very small principalities and duchies--many are non-existent
today. Many years ago, one would say that you were "transylvanian" and not
romanian--even though Transylvania is part of Romania. Bavaria is another
example......and there are countless others.
If a census taker was unable to clearly understand where the family came
from and had a clear idea that they were from Europe (particularly eastern
Europe) then the abbreviation "OC" would be used.
Sharon Brearey <sbre...@philly.infi.net> wrote in article
<3419E6...@philly.infi.net>...
> Hi, folks!
>
> Sorry if this has been asked before, but does anyone know what
> the abbreviation "OC" stands for in "place of birth"? In the case
> of my great grandparents, they were born in Austria, but their
> parents' birthplaces are listed as "OC" (at least it _looks_ like
> OC). There were other people listed on this page with that same
> abbreviation, and the "mother tongue" of all is Yiddish.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Sharon Brearey -- Philadelphia, PA <sbre...@philly.infi.net>
> Searching: SWERSKY, Suwalki, (?) / LAMM, Vienna, Austria
> ATLAS, Budapest, Hungary / BOBRITSKY --> FRANKEL, White Russia
> (Belarus?)
> SALTZMAN, Soviet Georgia
>
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X-Message: #25
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 22:32:40 -0400
From: "Anthony I. Sylvester" <Osp...@pinn.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc17f.a36f02a0$146de2cf@ast-575>
Subject: SILVESTER/SYLVESTER
Always glad to hear from and share with those researching descendants of
Richard & Naomi (Torrey) Silvester of Winthrop's 1630 Massachuetts Bay
Company, and later of Scituate in the Plymouth Colony. Richard was a
God-fearing Puritan who feared no man posing as God; and that got him in
trouble as it did other individualists of his time.
Those of Richard's surname descent from sons John, Joseph, Israel and
Benjamin. Mine runs Richard-Israel-Israel-Israel-Joseph-Seth-Ira-Isaac
Eddy ... and so forth. Eddy respresents the tie with that family surname.
Most interested in filling in a few blanks re Seth Silvester who married
his first cousin Hannah Eddy. Their children changed the 'i' to a 'y' for
Sylvester.
Because of Richard's removal from the Bay to the Plymouth Colony and
subsequent famliy marriages, there are numerous ties to Mayflower
families, among them Standish, Brewster, Bradford and John and Priscilla
(Mullins) Alden.
Ring any bells?
Regards from the Outer Banks,
Tony Sylvester
Kitty Hawk, NC
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X-Message: #26
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 22:36:12 -0400
From: Chris <chris...@ecsu.campus.mci.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341C9F1C...@ecsu.campus.mci.net>
Subject: City Directories ???
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Is there anywhere on the net where city directories are listed for the
1800's and early 1900's?
Thanks
Chris Wilkenshoff
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X-Message: #27
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 97 02:32:48 GMT
From: tne...@interlog.com (Tim Nelson)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vi6q7$6kc$1...@news.interlog.com>
Subject: Paris, Ontario, Canada
I would be interested in communicating with anyone who had family settle
in Paris, Ontario, Canada in the 1800's. Most families were from Ireland
and names include: Nelson, O'Neail, Brady, Doyle, Lillis, Taylor,
Mulcahy, Kelly, McGrory and many others.
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X-Message: #28
Date: 15 Sep 1997 02:57:12 GMT
From: margo...@aol.com (MargoBelle)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970915025...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Nathaniel Hawthorne
My grandmother traced our lines to the Salem writer Nathaniel Hawthorne,
but the records were lost or misplaced when she became older and went into
the hospital. Does anyone have a family chart, lineage, or descendancy
chart for him?
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X-Message: #29
Date: 15 Sep 1997 02:34:46 GMT
From: "Donna Suarez" <dsu...@cts.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc17f$e89c5c60$5692d8cc@default>
Subject: Re: World Family Tree
Bill,
The World Family Tree Submitters List site is at
http://www.inlink.com/~nomi/wftlist.html
Donna
Bill Gatchell <gatc...@intersatx.net> wrote in article
<3416EF...@intersatx.net>...
> I seen on the World Family Tree webpage they have an option of finding
> out the submitter of different surnames. I don't currently own WFT.
> Anyway of getting submitter's name without purchases the CD? There's
> only one I've found my surname on, thats Volume #2. But to get the info
> from their webpager server you need to know the CD ID#...
>
> Bill Gatchell
> San Antonio, Tx
> gatc...@intersatx.net
>
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X-Message: #30
Date: 15 Sep 97 03:18:43 GMT
From: "James L. Edenfield" <e...@hom.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc185$9dbf43a0$907ed8cc@default>
Subject: 25,300+ names and 3300+ surnames
There are over 25,300 individuals and over 3300 surnames
at
http://www.hom.net/~egs
Absolutely searchable database!!
FREE ACCESS!!
Thanks
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X-Message: #31
Date: 15 Sep 1997 03:30:27 GMT
From: rwill...@aol.com (RWilli1380)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970915033...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: City Directories ???
What Cities are you interested in ? I know of NO city Dirctories that are
on line. The FHC nearest to you may have some directories on microfilm or
they may be ordered fron Salt Lake..
Bob
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X-Message: #32
Date: 14 Sep 1997 20:33:24 -0700
From: gatc...@intersatx.net (Bill Gatchell)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.1997091...@mail.intersatx.net>
Subject: CD's
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I'd like to know if anyone out there is interested in selling their
genealogy CD's that contain the census reports, or anything else that is
genealogy related. I'd love to have these for my own collection, but the
new price is just not in the budget.
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 91
Today's Topics:
#1 Black Confederate Obit, Elgin, IL, [John Gross <confederate@worldnet.a]
#2 Daldry Surname research ["David daldry" <dal...@thefree.net]
#3 BLANKINSHIP, Austin; KY,USA > MO,U [camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield]
#4 STEP / STAPP; ENG > VA,USA; 1545-1 [camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield]
#5 LIVERS family in Illinois [fr...@beer.com (Frank J. Livers)]
#6 Re: Info needed - NYC Archives on [bwic...@pipeline.com (Brian Wickh]
#7 Re: Elizabeth City Co, VA [bel...@erols.com]
#8 Re: Info needed - NYC Archives on [bwic...@pipeline.com (Brian Wickh]
#9 pedigree charts [deb...@oz.sunflower.org (deborah ]
#10 Re: City Directories ??? [Kathleen Fuller <kj...@ix.netcom.c]
#11 Re: Best shareware Geneological so [d...@sparkasse.net (Jakob Moehs)]
#12 Jamaican Search [Lee Griggs <mseg...@worldnet.att.]
#13 Re: City Directories ??? [cwsu...@nr.infi.net (Charles Sull]
#14 Re: WFT Serial # [cwsu...@nr.infi.net (Charles Sull]
#15 native american indians. [JXJ...@prodigy.com (Ray Clark)]
#16 BLANKINSHIP, Austin; KY,USA > MO,U [camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield]
#17 Norwegian-Usa-Canada [Gurli Holte <gho...@online.no>]
#18 Genealogy Charts ["Diana" <dan...@telapex.com>]
#19 Re: Oregon Phone Directory Look-up [Linda <mons...@swbell.net>]
#20 Genealogy Web Sites List [ci...@airmail.net (Charles)]
#21 Updated Surname lists [ci...@airmail.net (Charles)]
#22 Ginther, Jankowksi, Wegenka, Daren ["R. Olson" <Pheasant@centuryinter.]
#23 Re: Figuring out ages [daniel <dan...@iglou.com>]
#24 Re: City Directories ??? [Merritt Mullen <mmullen@ridgecrest]
#25 Re: Genealogy Web Sites List [nm...@ix.netcom.com (Silver Bullet)]
#26 Census Procedures ["Gerald Trudell" <gtru...@ix.netc]
#27 Hilliker [don...@tdi.net]
#28 Re: FTM and This Group [frous...@aol.com (FRouse8002)]
#29 Re: genealogy software [frous...@aol.com (FRouse8002)]
#30 Re: Best shareware Geneological so [Ken Nelson <kne...@mail1.nai.net>]
#31 Re: FTM Upgrade Order ?? [Clarence woodcock <DEAUX@postoffic]
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X-Message: #1
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:19:15 -0400
From: John Gross <confe...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Black Confederate Obit, Elgin, IL, 1946
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I've found a reference to a Robert (Uncle Bob) Wilson, a slave who was
born on January 13, 1836 in Richmond, Virginia. I have a brief quote
from his obituary saying that he was a Confederate veteran. I also have
information that he could not be buried in a United States Military
cemetery because he served in the Confederate army. I would like to
confirm this information about where he could/could not be buried. I
believe it may appear in the obituary as well. The obit is in the _Elgin
Daily Courier-News_ for April 13, 1948.
If anyone could assist or has any suggections on how to get a copy of
the obit or its contents, I would appreciate it.
Thank you,
John Gross
confe...@worldnet.att.net
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X-Message: #2
Date: 15 Sep 97 19:51:55 GMT
From: "David daldry" <dal...@thefree.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc20f$86468dc0$7ac322c3@default>
Subject: Daldry Surname research
Hi this is my first attempt at this medium.
Is there anyone out there with any information regarding the surname Daldry
or Dardry?
The family originated from Suffolk England but there are brancches
everywherenow. Any information welcome
David Daldry
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X-Message: #3
Date: 15 Sep 1997 19:48:31 GMT
From: camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: BLANKINSHIP, Austin; KY,USA > MO,USA; 1820-1863
BLANKINSHIP, Austin; KY,USA > MO,USA; 1820-1863
This query was included with a batch I sent off earlier, but according to
my reader, it was not posted:
AUSTIN BLANKINSHIP was born 30 Aug 1820 in Kentucky, was shot to death 13
Sep 1863 in Cole Camp, Mo.; m.Susan Carpenter 16 Mar 1845.
I am seeking his parents and place of birth. I believe he descends from the
early Blankenships/Blankinships of James River, Va., some of whom migrated
to Kentucky.
Thanks for your attention,
Tom Camfield - camf...@olympus.net
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X-Message: #4
Date: 15 Sep 1997 19:56:50 GMT
From: camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: STEP / STAPP; ENG > VA,USA; 1545-1750
STEP / STAPP; ENG > VA,USA; 1545-1750
Earlier I sent off 7 messages to s.g.global.surnames, cross-posting to
alt.genealogy. I received no notice of rejection by e-mail. Meanwhile, 5 of
the messages turned up in both newsgroups--as did a message I posted later
in the day to alt.genealogy. The following is one of the 2 postings that
failed to appear on my reader:
I would like to verify the line from THOMAS STAPP, b. ca. 1545, England, to
ANNISTER STEP, b. 1731, Va., d. 1759; m. CAPT. WILLIAM SIMS (1731-1797).
This alleged direct line as I have it was located successively in Glouster,
England; Henrico, Essex and Orange Counties, Virginia. It includes only the
barest statiscis and runs through seven generations--Thomas, Ambrose,
Joshua, Abraham, Abraham, Joshua, Annister.
In addition to confirmation of the ancestry, I would like to flesh out some
of these old bare bones.
Thanks for your attention,
Tom Camfield - camf...@olympus.net
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X-Message: #5
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 19:41:07 GMT
From: fr...@beer.com (Frank J. Livers)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341d8e87...@news.jumpgate.net>
Subject: LIVERS family in Illinois
I'm trying to find the grave of my great grandfather, Robert J.
Livers. I don't have a date of death or a place. But he lived in
Fulton County, Canton, Illinois. The rest of his family are buried
there but I can't seem to locate his grave.
Frank J. Livers
http://www.jumpgate.net/~flivers
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X-Message: #6
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 20:12:28 GMT
From: bwic...@pipeline.com (Brian Wickham)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Info needed - NYC Archives on Chambers Street
chw...@ibm.net (Charles Wood) wrote:
>Hello all, I've been to the NYC Archives on Chambers streets, but
>misplaced their handout which lists opening hours and earliest dates for
>Birth, Marriage and Death Records. Can someone help?
>
>I'll be near NYC the end of this month and want to go in to the
>archives, but need the above info to be certain that I'm not wasting
>time. If someone has a tel no. that is answered by a person, that would
>be a good start. I'm traveling from Florida.
>
>My interests are Brooklyn, Kings County, New York.
>
>Thanks in advance. Charlie
>
Charlie,
For Brooklyn, the Municipal Archive has:
Births 1898-1909
Deaths 1898-1948
Marriages 1898-1937
Good luck,
Brian Wickham
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X-Message: #7
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:14:25 -0400
From: bel...@erols.com
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341D9721...@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Elizabeth City Co, VA
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Jan:
A Hornbook of Virginia History (3rd Edition, p.109), published by the
Virginia State Library, states that Elizabeth City County became extinct
in 1952 and was incorporated into the City of Hampton.
The address for the city's municipal offices is as follows:
City of Hampton
22 Lincoln Street
Hampton, Virginia 23669
(804) 727-6392
Hope this helps.
JDool90830 wrote:
> My g.g. grandfather died in Elizabeth City Co.1904. They lived on
> what
> is now Poplar Ave in Newport News, VA. In the 1900 Census, they were
> listed as being on "Electric Car Line".
>
> I have requested death certificate for him from the City of Newport
> News,
> but there was none. The catholic church has a record of his death,
> but not
> the City. Does anyone know if death records for Elizabeth City Co,
> (which
> no longer exists) would be in Newport News or Hampton, VA???
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jan Dool you are invited to visit my homepage
>
> http://members.aol.com/JDool90830/jano.htm
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Jan:
<P><U>A Hornbook of Virginia History</U> (3rd Edition, p.109), published
by the Virginia State Library, states that Elizabeth City County became
extinct in 1952 and was incorporated into the City of Hampton.
<P>The address for the city's municipal offices is as follows:
<P>City of Hampton
<BR>22 Lincoln Street
<BR>Hampton, Virginia 23669
<BR>(804) 727-6392
<P>Hope this helps.
<BR>
<P>JDool90830 wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>My g.g. grandfather died in Elizabeth City Co.1904.
They lived on what
<BR>is now Poplar Ave in Newport News, VA. In the 1900 Census, they
were
<BR>listed as being on "Electric Car Line".
<P>I have requested death certificate for him from the City of Newport
News,
<BR>but there was none. The catholic church has a record of his death,
but not
<BR>the City. Does anyone know if death records for Elizabeth City
Co, (which
<BR>no longer exists) would be in Newport News or Hampton, VA???
<P>Thanks.
<P>Jan Dool you are invited to visit my homepage
<P> <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/JDool90830/jano.htm">http://members.aol.com/JDool90830/jano.htm</A></BLOCKQUOTE>
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X-Message: #8
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 20:26:23 GMT
From: bwic...@pipeline.com (Brian Wickham)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341d992c...@news.pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: Info needed - NYC Archives on Chambers Street
bwic...@pipeline.com (Brian Wickham) wrote:
>chw...@ibm.net (Charles Wood) wrote:
>
>>Hello all, I've been to the NYC Archives on Chambers streets, but
>>misplaced their handout which lists opening hours and earliest dates for
>>Birth, Marriage and Death Records. Can someone help?
>>
>>I'll be near NYC the end of this month and want to go in to the
>>archives, but need the above info to be certain that I'm not wasting
>>time. If someone has a tel no. that is answered by a person, that would
>>be a good start. I'm traveling from Florida.
>>
>>My interests are Brooklyn, Kings County, New York.
>>
>>Thanks in advance. Charlie
>>
>
>
>Charlie,
>
>For Brooklyn, the Municipal Archive has:
>
>Births 1898-1909
>Deaths 1898-1948
>Marriages 1898-1937
>
WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!
These are not the dates for Brooklyn but for the Bronx.
The correct dates are for Brooklyn are:
Births 1866-1909
Deaths 1847-1853, 1857-1948
Marriages 1866-1937
Sorry,
Brian Wickham
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X-Message: #9
Date: 15 Sep 1997 13:32:12 -0700
From: deb...@oz.sunflower.org (deborah crain)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: pedigree charts
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where can I find software for pedigree charts.
--
Please don't send gedcom files.
If you would like a copy of my pedigree chart please email me.
mailto:deb...@oz.sunflower.org
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X-Message: #10
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:40:39 -0400
From: Kathleen Fuller <kj...@ix.netcom.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: City Directories ???
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Chris wrote:
>
> Is there anywhere on the net where city directories are listed for the
> 1800's and early 1900's?
>
> Thanks
> Chris Wilkenshoff
Try your local historical society or public library. They should have
some.
Kathie Fuller
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X-Message: #11
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 20:42:42 GMT
From: d...@sparkasse.net (Jakob Moehs)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341d7e90...@news.nacamar.de>
Subject: Re: Best shareware Geneological software program for novice
On Sun, 14 Sep 1997 09:59:53 GMT, br...@wn.com.au (Brian Kings) wrote:
>"Trussell" <krus...@omicron.net> wrote:
>IMHO PAF 2.31 or PAF 3.0 is a good one to start with - as you become
>more familiar with the program you can then move up to Legacy 2.0,
>which is an excellent piece of software for the more serious
>genealogist.
Where can I find Legacy 2.0. How is it compared to Family Tree Maker
V.2.0?
What charts can one print with Legacy? Are there any limits to the
number of generations it can inclued in the layout?
Thanx
Jakob
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X-Message: #12
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:32:48 -0400
From: Lee Griggs <mseg...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Jamaican Search
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I am in need of a qualified researcher in Jamaica--Denbigh, Clarendon
Parish, Jamaica. Need a surname checked in the Archives. Willing to pay
for search. Please contact lgr...@msegroup.com or
mseg...@worldnet.att.net or fax 803.424.0450. Need a prompt reply.
Thanks
Lee
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X-Message: #13
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 97 20:43:33 GMT
From: cwsu...@nr.infi.net (Charles Sullivan)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vk6ll$bb0...@nr.infi.net>
Subject: Re: City Directories ???
Remember that before 1898, New York City was just Manhattan (and
a small part of the Bronx in later years.) Brooklyn was a separate city.
Directories for both are available through FHCs and some genealogy
libraries. There were always separate directories for Brooklyn,
even after 1898.
Regards,
Charles Sullivan
Chris Wilkenshoff <chris...@ecsu.campus.mci.net> wrote:
>I was looking for New York City, including Brooklyn.
>
>Chris Wilkenshoff
>
>
>RWilli1380 wrote:
>
>> What Cities are you interested in ? I know of NO city Dirctories that
are
>> on line. The FHC nearest to you may have some directories on microfilm
or
>> they may be ordered fron Salt Lake..
>> Bob
>
>
>
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X-Message: #14
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 97 20:34:05 GMT
From: cwsu...@nr.infi.net (Charles Sullivan)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vk63t$bb0...@nr.infi.net>
Subject: Re: WFT Serial #
In article <341C99D8...@pacbell.net>,
Barbara Butler <barb...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>I purchased FTM with the 5 cds and am trying to find the submitter
>information on 2 of them. The problem is FTM says they want a serial #
>starting with 6 ???? My cd's only have these #'s V701_01, V702_01, etc
>so how are you suppose to get the submitter info????????????
>
>Barb
If you can't read the number, they won't have to bother looking up
the submitter info for you. :-)
In addition to the tiny little number on the LR corner of the jewel
case, there's another tiny little number (different but also
starting with 6) on the CD itself, engraved on the innermost ring
area. You'll probably need a magnifier to read it - it's almost
invisible.
Gotta hand it to Broderbund for making things easy-to-use.
Regards,
Charles Sullivan
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X-Message: #15
Date: 15 Sep 1997 20:38:56 GMT
From: JXJ...@prodigy.com (Ray Clark)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vk6d0$286m$1...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>
Subject: native american indians.
i am looking for a tribe of cheyenne part cherokee some semenole and
chakta mixed in the lower appalations.around.fl tenn.al .nc.maybee ark.
they was all split up around the time of the trail of tears.the name of
the tribe was cox.mostely from ga. and fl. if you can help .shed any
light on this i need it my e mail is jxj...@prodigy.com
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X-Message: #16
Date: 15 Sep 1997 21:13:12 GMT
From: camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vk8d8$v...@bl-4.rootsweb.com>
Subject: BLANKINSHIP, Austin; KY,USA > MO,USA; 1820-1863
BLANKINSHIP, Austin; KY,USA > MO,USA; 1820-1863
AUSTIN BLANKINSHIP was born 30 Aug 1820 in Kentucky, was shot to death 13
Sep 1863 in Cole Camp, Mo.; m. 15 Mar 1845 Susan Carpenter.
I am seeking Austin's parents and his place of birth in Kentucky. I believe
he probably descends from the early James River, Va.,
Blankenships/Blankinships; some members of this line migrated to Kentucky.
Thanks for your attention,
Tom Camfield - camf...@olympus.net
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X-Message: #17
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 23:40:55 +0200
From: Gurli Holte <gho...@online.no>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Hello! I am a girl that search for mu relatives in Usa-canada.
Special one woman. She went from Norway in 1909, the target was Baldwin
, Wis, USA. She was married twice. Get one girl, in the first marriage,
and at least one son in the other. Now I have heard that she and her
second husband went to Canada, to live there. Her name is Kirsten Holte
(maiden name) born 1884.
Any tips or anything are welcome!!!
Gurli Holte:-)
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X-Message: #18
Date: 15 Sep 1997 21:41:36 GMT
From: "Diana" <dan...@telapex.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc21f$e0894b00$92361ece@gateway-2000>
Subject: Genealogy Charts
Is there anywhere on the net where I can copy charts that I can fill out
with family information?
Diana
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X-Message: #19
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 17:19:57 -0500
From: Linda <mons...@swbell.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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den...@gte.net wrote:
>
> Hi Linda,
>
> When I saw that person reply to you, I thought how rude... this is
> genealogy, no one would be doing that...but then, I got to thinking, in
> the world we live in today, who knows!!! If..... someone was stalking
> some one they could get on one of our lists and most of us would not
> think any thing of it. Its a sad thing when we have to quetion or fellow
> researcher...
>
> So don't be so hard on the person that wrote this to you... She was only
> thinking of your sister... And isn't that what we are all suppose to do,
> care for others...
>
> Did you get her address yet?? today is Sunday, do you want me to call her
> for you to see if I can get to her with a message for you?? No I am not a
> stalker, I live here in Oregon, my daughter and 2 grandchildren live here
> with me. I would not have the nurve to stalk any one... Oh except my son
> in law!!! ha ha ha ha..
>
> Have a nice day,
>
> Cathy in Oregon
Cathy,
Thanks but another very nice person called her and told her the problem
and GUESS WHAT? She gave him her address to tell me. So I'm fixed now.
WOW, what a great bunch of people. Thanks so much, Jim & Cathy :-)))))
Yours Truly,
Linda
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X-Message: #20
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 00:31:08 GMT
From: ci...@airmail.net (Charles)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <A707509BAAC2C61F.9D312D56...@library-proxy.airnews.net>
Subject: Genealogy Web Sites List
In order of priority/importance, what are your best sites on the
internet for genealogical data, exchanging information, finding new
cousins?
I'll start.
1) ROOTS-L at rootsweb.com (has numerous surname and geographic
sites).
2) GenServ
Any others?
Charles Duncan
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X-Message: #21
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 01:01:18 GMT
From: ci...@airmail.net (Charles)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <120EBF4D1027D79C.23AFA2FD...@library-proxy.airnews.net>
Subject: Updated Surname lists
I've have updated surnames I am searching at my home page:
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/9011
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X-Message: #22
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 17:51:39 -0700
From: "R. Olson" <Phea...@centuryinter.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Ginther, Jankowksi, Wegenka, Darenek
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I am looking for information on my grandparents and great grandparents:
Blaze Jarome Ginther(South Bend Ind.)/Joanna Frances Jankowski.
Maternal greatgrandparents- martin Jandowski and Agnes Wegenka(South
Bend, Ind.) Paternal greatgrandparents- John Ginther & Magdalen
Deranek(South Bend, Ind.)
Thank you
R. Olson
Phea...@centuryiner.ent
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X-Message: #23
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 18:28:48 GMT
From: daniel <dan...@iglou.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Figuring out ages
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wycoff wrote:
>
> Is there a web site I can use to calucate birthdates when I have the date
> of death and age in years, months, and days?
> I think I saw this posted before and that I bookmarked it - but I can't
> find it.
> Many thanks
> Mary Ann
> <wyc...@lakenet.com>
Mary,
Supposedly there is the 1870 method, but it does not always work
out that I can see.
the year one can be found at:
http://vax1.vigo.lib.in.us/~jmounts/cendates.htm
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X-Message: #24
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:50:47 -0700
From: Merritt Mullen <mmu...@ridgecrest.ca.us>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Chris wrote:
>
> Is there anywhere on the net where city directories are listed for the
> 1800's and early 1900's?
The directories were microfilmed by a private company and Salt Lake City
has a full set which can be ordered at any LDS Family History Center
(FHC). They are listed in the Family History Library Catalog (FHLC) in
the locality section under the city of interest.
I don't know of any listing on the net.
Merritt
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X-Message: #25
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 00:07:07 GMT
From: nm...@ix.netcom.com (Silver Bullet)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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In the recent past, Charles wrote:
>In order of priority/importance, what are your best sites on the
>internet for genealogical data, exchanging information, finding new
>cousins?
>
>I'll start.
>
> 1) ROOTS-L at rootsweb.com (has numerous surname and geographic
>sites).
Address:
>
> 2) GenServ
I don't use this one. I don't like loading large gedcom files
and then bringing them into my data base just
because I see one name that looks interesting.
However, the address is:
http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~cmanis/
Gendex is a linked data base to all folks who put up gendex compatible
genealogical data bases on the net:
The archives of the soc.genealogy.surnames group back to 1994:
http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/gennam-l.html
Broderbund's Search Engines: 3 of 'em. Internet, CD's, and their home
pages.
Search the internet:
http://www.familytreemaker.com/ifftop.html
Family Tree Online:
http://www.familytreemaker.com/search.html
FTM CD's
http://www.familytreemaker.com/ffitop.html
GenWeb Queries and Surnames:
Whenever you can get in, which is a gamble
Hint, bookmark your counties, as the state and US
pages are sometimes very hard to get into.
Norris Taylor
EMail: Norris Taylor <nm...@ix.netcom.com>
Main Ancestral Lines:
Beaty, Earhart, Feather, Johnston, Millirons,Taylor, Vatter
"Most Wanted" Lines to connect with:
McCart, McBride, Snodgrass, Toland, Robison,
Small, Bristow, White, Donalson
Genealogy Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html
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X-Message: #26
Date: 16 Sep 1997 00:17:21 GMT
From: "Gerald Trudell" <gtru...@ix.netcom.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc234$df68b340$63a0bacd@default>
Subject: Census Procedures
I have found many of my own and my wifes ancestors living very close to
each other in the 1900, 1880 and 1870 census in Ohio in fact its almost
unbelievable. the question is did the census takers go from house to house
on the same side of the street or go back and forth across the street, most
of these are in a somewhat rural area and house and family numbers are
shown but not street names although I know where one house still stands as
I visited my greatgrandmother there with my parents in the late 1950's.
any help would be appreciated thanks Jerry
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X-Message: #27
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 00:35:12 GMT
From: don...@tdi.net
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341dd37f...@news.foxberry.net>
Subject: Hilliker
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Hi all.
The current line of research includes HILLIKER TENNANT WEBSTER
SANGER FIELDS. I am looking for the father of Giles Hilliker whom I
belive to have been born around 1780 to 1790 in upstate new york. He
and his brothers moved to the Norwich Ontario area around 1810/1812
If you have anything on any of these lines lets swap. My direct line
is shown at the FTM online site under the users pages
thanks
Don Hilliker
Intricate Articles
http://www.foxberry.net/dondon
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X-Message: #28
Date: 16 Sep 1997 00:45:21 GMT
From: frous...@aol.com (FRouse8002)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970916004...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: FTM and This Group
Hello,
I am tired of the whining that goes on about FTM and the information we
chose to submit. It costs the company a great deal of money to reproduce,
in a usable form, the information for the use of everyone. The information
on the cd's has been invaluable in my research and I am a serious
researcher trying to verify all information that I receive.
Frances
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X-Message: #29
Date: 16 Sep 1997 00:53:46 GMT
From: frous...@aol.com (FRouse8002)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970916005...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: genealogy software
Don,
You can download "Brother's Keeper" and us it as a demo and then if you
like it send the money for the whole works. Do a search for Genealogy
software it should show up there. Also Kith and Kin is a shareware
download I've tried both of them and found them to be ok but I've used FTM
for several years and have a very hard time converting to another program
that I would have to learn all over again.
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X-Message: #30
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 20:54:08 -0400
From: Ken Nelson <kne...@mail1.nai.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341DD8...@ct1.nai.net>
Subject: Re: Best shareware Geneological software program for novice
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The Nortons wrote:
>
> BirthWrite 1.7
> ftp.winsite.com/pub/pc/win95/pim/birthw17.zip
> The author is RM...@interlog.com
>
> Just Geo1 wrote:
> >
> > In article <5vfn2f$kts$1...@client2.news.psi.net>, "Trussell"
> > <krus...@omicron.net> writes:
> >
> >
> >Any options on Genealogy software in general? I'd like to start with a
> >shareware program then move up.
One needs to also remember Brothers Keeper, one of the more popular and
powerful shaweware program.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Brothers_Keeper/homepage.htm
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X-Message: #31
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 20:11:54 -0500
From: Clarence woodcock <DE...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vkmoi$c...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: FTM Upgrade Order ??
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Michael P Mina wrote:
>
> Clarence .... I placed my order over the net on 20 August, it was mailed
> on 25 August and arrived from California in Australia on 31 August. Can't
> complain about that. I am sure someone will see your message in this
> newsgroup and fix your problem.
>
> Regards from the lucky country .... Michael P Mina
>
> Clarence woodcock <DE...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> writes: > Has anyone else had a major delay in receiving the 4.0 upgrade after
> > ordering it on-line at the FTM website?? I placed the order two weeks
> > ago and have received no response of any kind. No acknowledgement of
> > order, no email error message, and no upgrade software. What timeframe
> > should I expect here ??
> >
> > (FWIW - if the folks at FTM are reading this - your web site is really
> > the _worst_ with regard to customer service. Why do I have to ask a
> > simple question like this one by going to Compuserve, AOL, or this
> > newsgroup - when I am already looking at your logo ????? I would think
> > that you would like to provide direct access for questions like this
> > one, for obvious reasons.)
> >
> > Clarence Woodcock
They did and they did !!!! For info for anyone else who has a similar
problem, the FTM Customer service number is 800-474-8696, and the folks
that answer are super.
cw
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 92
Today's Topics:
#1 Re: Passenger records [jame...@aol.com (JamesGuth)]
#2 Re: Getting access to restric [P&DSchultz <schu...@erols.com>]
#3 Re: New York Marriages ["Andy Weir" <we...@resources.curti]
#4 American Culture/Italian Immigrant [phil...@aol.com (PHILOMENA)]
#5 Suffolk (UK) Surname List UPDATES [beerdl@[REMOVE.NO.SPAM]kos.net]
#6 Re: Militar Bases [Robert Melson <rme...@primenet.co]
#7 CROWLEY [jro...@orednet.org (Jean Rotter)]
#8 Re: 24,300 NAMES WEB SITE [mvst...@aol.com (MV STIDHAM)]
#9 civil war info ["Desmond Spencer" <q...@hem.com>]
#10 QUARMBY [D M Lawlor <dm...@student.canteerb]
#11 Clan information wanted... ["Kevin L. Crawford" <kevin@widomak]
#12 Re: civil war info [jweav...@aol.com (Jweaver300)]
#13 NYC Municipal Archives Info Sheet [bwic...@pipeline.com (Brian Wickh]
#14 Great NG [jm...@primenet.com (jmull)]
#15 Re: address for records office [FLOSS...@aol.com]
#16 Re: Mother Theresa's Ancestry? [rwje...@hctc.net]
#17 Re: Militar Bases [rwje...@hctc.net]
#18 Re: Is this German [rwje...@hctc.net]
#19 Re: Royal Genealogy [rwje...@hctc.net]
#20 All the JEWELL / JEWEL name [rwje...@hctc.net]
#21 Re: 1949 NYC Death Cert -- precise [rwje...@hctc.net]
#22 1900 New Jersey E.D.? [jsin...@mbay.net (John R. Sinnhub]
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X-Message: #1
Date: 16 Sep 1997 01:19:47 GMT
From: jame...@aol.com (JamesGuth)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Passenger records
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>Even though I know the port, month and year of arrival I still have been
>unable to locate several different families in the New York passenger
>lists.
I had the same problem when searching for my ggf. The first time through
I could not find him. Then I realized that he had a long (10 letters)
first name and a short surname (3 letters). I went through the relavent
month again looking specifically for this particular pattern. He jumped
right out at me the second time.
jame...@aol.com
Ask me about my ancestors.
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X-Message: #2
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 21:20:13 -0400
From: P&DSchultz <schu...@erols.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Barney Barnhardt wrote:
> To protect the privacy of those involved. Probably much the same reason as
> census records aren't released for some period of time. Contrary to what
> some people think, most "public servants" don't care who gets it and when as
> long as the rules and laws permit them to give it out.
Possibly because of legislation. Possibly also a result of a
certain arrogant appropriation of authority by employees who
resent the extra work that "hobbyists" cause them. Such incidents
pop up occasionally and are chronicled in genealogy magazines and
journals. It is an ongoing struggle. Check with the legislators.
What the office involved tells you isn't necessarily a legal fact.
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X-Message: #3
Date: 16 Sep 1997 01:30:22 GMT
From: "Andy Weir" <we...@resources.curtin.edu.au>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc240$18b45c20$5169...@risk7.curtin.edu.au>
Subject: Re: New York Marriages
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LEONARD V. BABCOCK <L.V.B...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
<5vhog2$n...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
> I read that there is a CD-ROM #402 listing NY marriages of the 1700s and
> 1800s, but I have not been able to locate and owner. I would appreciate
a
> lookup for Timothy Babcock to Hannah or Hanna Petlet or Pettit if you
have
> this CD. Thanks.
>
> Len Babcock
>
> L.V.B...@worldnet.att.net
>
>
Try this link to the US CD List.
<http://www.seidata.com/~lhoffman/cdlist.html>
Andy
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X-Message: #4
Date: 16 Sep 1997 01:42:40 GMT
From: phil...@aol.com (PHILOMENA)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970916014...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: American Culture/Italian Immigrants
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There is a website with 2 free chapters of the decision to come to America
and the decision to write the story. Good pics and good info.
www.galaxymall.com/retail/treasure.
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X-Message: #5
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 01:54:17 GMT
From: beerdl@[REMOVE.NO.SPAM]kos.net
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341de...@news.kosone.com>
Subject: Suffolk (UK) Surname List UPDATES - Sep 15 1997
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SUFFOLK SURNAME INTEREST LIST UPDATE
Additions and Amendments ONLY Dated: Sep 15 1997
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This list consists of additions and amendments to the Suffolk
Surname Interest List. Changes of address are not included here.
NOTES:
1) For those who haven't been by the site for a while, stop by...
some new additions. i.e. guestbook, Suffolk Lookup Exchange etc.
2) The list is growing rapidly these days. I am doing site updates
and sending out the additions list twice per month.
The list can be found in its entirety at:
http://www.visualcreations.com/pers/leeann/suffolk/
SUBMITTING:
Please send submissions via the submission page *ONLY* where the
formatting instructions are located...
http://www.visualcreations.com/pers/leeann/suffolk/suf_subm.html
* indicates members of the Felixstowe FHS and
# indicates members of the Suffolk FHS.
All the best with your research,
LeeAnn
Ontario, Canada
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ALLEN : Mildenhall : c1870-1882
Don Fay : d....@qub.ac.uk
ALLEN : Waldringfield : 1828
# Linda Sokalofsky : li...@helinet.com
BENNETT : Lowestoft : c1800-1850
Valerie Andrews : val...@ihug.co.nz
BLOOMFIELD : Ipswich : c1750-1800
Bonita Smith : bonita...@sympatico.ca
BODDY : Lowestoft, Wrentham : aft1890
Roydon Loveley : Roydon...@CompuServe.com
BRETT : Laxfield, Ipswich : 1822-aft1881
# Linda Sokalofsky : li...@helinet.com
BRUNNING : Lowestoft, Sotterley : any time
# Caroline Rogers : cro...@colex.demon.co.uk
BUSH : Stradbroke : 1850
# Linda Sokalofsky : li...@helinet.com
BYAM : Bardwell : 1700-1850
# Martin Hagger : martin.j...@lineone.net
CABLE : Fritton : c1815-1850
Judy Dennis : judp...@lin.cbl.com.au
CALTHORPE : Charsfield, Bedingfield, Easton, Marlesford : c1745-1859
Noel Mann : noel...@netspace.net.au
CARR : Great Bealings : c1790
Bronwyn Farber : farb...@hkstar.com
CATTERMOLE : any place : any time
Pamela Smith : r...@easynet.on.ca
CATTERMOLE : Halesworth : 1800-1850
John Baskott : ba...@nor.com.au
CATTON : Hopton : c1760-1830
Liz Milbourn : DandE-M...@msn.com
CHATTERIS : Ipswich : 1800-1900s
Rae Finucane : rae...@eis.net.au
CHINERY : Nedging, Thorpe Morieux, Bildeston : bef1900
Tom Luke : tom...@alphalink.com.au
COLTHORP : Charsfield, Bedingfield, Easton, Marlesford : c1745-1859
Noel Mann : noel...@netspace.net.au
COOK : Wingfield : bef1800
Karen Porter : por...@olympus.net
DODDS : Newmarket : c1880-1930
Don Fay : d....@qub.ac.uk
COOPER : Elveden : c1870-1900
Don Fay : d....@qub.ac.uk
COOPER : Holbrook : 1815
# Linda Sokalofsky : li...@helinet.com
CROSS : Stanton : any time
Pam Cross : gcr...@onaustralia.com.au
CUTTING : Fritton : c1790-1860
Judy Dennis : judp...@lin.cbl.com.au
DAY : Bardwell, Barningham : 1750-1900
# Martin Hagger : martin.j...@lineone.net
DUFFIELD : Brome : any time
Pam Cross : gcr...@onaustralia.com.au
EATON : Ipswich : 1800s
Pamela Smith : r...@easynet.on.ca
FAY : Elveden : 1937-1997
Don Fay : d....@qub.ac.uk
FULCHER : Melton : 1844
# Linda Sokalofsky : li...@helinet.com
GAYTON : Elveden, Lakenheath, Newmarket : c1810-1910
Don Fay : d....@qub.ac.uk
GIMMINGHAM : Mendham : bef1728
Karen Porter : por...@olympus.net
GOBBETT : Mendham : bef1800
Karen Porter : por...@olympus.net
GOODRICH : East Bergholt : c1800
Pamela Smith : r...@easynet.on.ca
HARDWICK : Flowton : 1818
# Linda Sokalofsky : li...@helinet.com
HINES : Aldham, Semer, Bildeston : bef1860
Tom Luke : tom...@alphalink.com.au
JARDINE : Wixoe, Stoke-by-Clare, Woodbridge : aft1700
Elizabeth Moss : mac...@webaxs.net
JOLLY : Laxfield : 1800
# Linda Sokalofsky : li...@helinet.com
KEABLE : Fritton : c1815-1850
Judy Dennis : judp...@lin.cbl.com.au
KEEBLE : Cratfield : 1787
# Linda Sokalofsky : li...@helinet.com
KEMP : Laxfield : 1844
# Linda Sokalofsky : li...@helinet.com
KIDD : Culford, Culford Heath, Lackford,
Mildenhall, Wordwell : c1860-1940
Don Fay : d....@qub.ac.uk
LEATHER : Laxfield : 1850
# Linda Sokalofsky : li...@helinet.com
LUMMAS : Stoke Ash : 1800s
Pamela Smith : r...@easynet.on.ca
MALLETT : Kessingland, Lowestoft : 1700-1900
Chrissy Fletcher : ambe...@hinet.net.au
MANN : Charsfield, Boulge, Clopton : c1750-1859
Noel Mann : noel...@netspace.net.au
MARSHALL : Ipswich : c1750-1800
Bonita Smith : bonita...@sympatico.ca
MATTEN : Cratfield : 1700-1900
Thomas Peeke : pe...@globalnet.co.uk
MILLER : Fritton : c1780-1850
Judy Dennis : judp...@lin.cbl.com.au
MOORE : any place : 1700-1840
Thomas Peeke : pe...@globalnet.co.uk
MORRIS : Elveden : c1880-1910
Don Fay : d....@qub.ac.uk
ORFORD : any place : c1820
Bonita Smith : bonita...@sympatico.ca
OSBORN(E) : Hadleigh : bef1814
Liz Milbourn : DandE-M...@msn.com
OSBORNE : Foxhall, Nacton : c1700-1900
Yvonne Austin : yau...@ihug.co.nz
PARKER : Bury St Edmunds area : 1700-1900
Thomas Peeke : pe...@globalnet.co.uk
PATTLE : Elveden, Denham : c1860-1890
Don Fay : d....@qub.ac.uk
PEACHEY : any place : 1700-1900
Thomas Peeke : pe...@globalnet.co.uk
PETTINGILL : Fritton : c1750-1890
Judy Dennis : judp...@lin.cbl.com.au
PHILLIPS : Bardwell, Stanton : 1700-1850
# Martin Hagger : martin.j...@lineone.net
PLACE
Bury St Edmunds, Denham, Eriswell, Elveden, Lakenheath,
Mildenhall, Wangford, Weeting, Whepstead : c1810-1959
Don Fay : d....@qub.ac.uk
RACKHAM : Wrentham, Kessingland, Gisleham : c1800-1840
John Caine : jca...@enterprise.net
RAWLINSON : Haverhill : c1880
Pamela Smith : r...@easynet.on.ca
RAYNOR : Elveden : c1850-1900
Don Fay : d....@qub.ac.uk
ROOKARD : any place : 1700-1850
Thomas Peeke : pe...@globalnet.co.uk
RUMSBY : Cratfield, Laxfield, Ipswich : any time
# Linda Sokalofsky : li...@helinet.com
SILLITOE : Sudbury : c1830-1900
Lesley Jones : l.j...@netmatters.co.uk
SMITH : East Bergholt : c1840
Pamela Smith : r...@easynet.on.ca
SNOWLING : any place : any time
# Caroline Rogers : cro...@colex.demon.co.uk
SOUTER : Wingfield : bef1850
Karen Porter : por...@olympus.net
STAGOLL : any place : aft1750
Tim R.L. Fry : Tim...@BusEco.monash.edu.au
STOCKING : Mendham : any time
Karen Porter : por...@olympus.net
STRUTT : Hopton : bef1800
Liz Milbourn : DandE-M...@msn.com
SUSTINS : Kessingland, Lowestoft : 1700-1900
Chrissy Fletcher : ambe...@hinet.net.au
TUTTLE : Lowestoft, Sotherton, Wenhaston : any time
Roydon Loveley : Roydon...@CompuServe.com
VESEY : Brent Eleigh, Holbrook, Claydon, Ipswich : 1763-1990
# Linda Sokalofsky : li...@helinet.com
WARD : Brent Eleigh : 1762
# Linda Sokalofsky : li...@helinet.com
WATSON : any place : c1900-1939
Don Fay : d....@qub.ac.uk
WILLINGHAM : Horringer : c1770
Noel Clark : nhc...@apg.com.au
WOOLLARD : Aldham : bef1860
Tom Luke : tom...@alphalink.com.au
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E-mail: beerdl@<REMOVE NO SPAM>kos.net
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{ Researching my family's history: }
{ http://www.visualcreations.com/pers/leeann/genealogy/ }
{ WHATLING Family History, a one name study }
{ http://www.visualcreations.com/pers/leeann/whatling/ }
{ Suffolk Surname Interest List (U.K.): }
{ http://www.visualcreations.com/pers/leeann/suffolk/ }
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X-Message: #6
Date: 15 Sep 1997 18:59:01 -0700
From: Robert Melson <rme...@primenet.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341DE7C4...@primenet.com>
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Jan S. Weinmann wrote:
>
> Ken Nelson wrote:
>
> > I am running into some situations where the individual was born on a
> > military base. My question concerns the county and city the military
> > base are considered for genealogy purposes. And would the state have
> > their Birth Certificates on file or would that be a federal thing.
>
> My daughter was born on Columbus Air Force Base, MS in 1985. Her
> birth is registered with the state. I suspect this is the norm for
> bases on US soil, at least for the recent past, but can't confirm this.
> I'm afraid I don't know how bases on foreign soil do it.
>
> Jan
--
In all cases in the US, the birth is registered with local authorities
of the jurisdiction in which the base is located.
Overseas is a bit different and depends on the treaty relationships
between the US and the host government. For the most part, however, the
birth is registered both with the local civil authority AND with the US
Department of State, the latter to establish the child's citizenship
under one of the many laws pertaining to citizenship. I've been away
from the business for too long to be able to cite chapter and verse, but
the two laws that have most effect are the Nationality Act of 1940, as
amended, and the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, as amended.
Hope this helps.
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X-Message: #7
Date: 15 Sep 1997 22:20:21 GMT
From: jro...@orednet.org (Jean Rotter)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vkcb5$c...@ednet2.orednet.org>
Subject: CROWLEY
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Looking for info of ancestors of Daniel Edward Crowley b c 1858 in
Wisconsin, d 1934 in Spokane, Washington. He married Sarah Mary
Blakeley, who was b in Spangle, Washington. They had 7 children, she died
at the age of 32 and is buried in Spokane, also.
Daniel Edward's father came from Ireland with brothers James & John, and
he settled in Wisconsin, married a lady who had also come from Ireland.
Thanks in Advance
Jean Rotter
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X-Message: #8
Date: 16 Sep 1997 02:37:02 GMT
From: mvst...@aol.com (MV STIDHAM)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970916023...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: 24,300 NAMES WEB SITE
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I am looking for my decendents on my mother's side. We have knowledge of
John Peter Walters, who married Anna Laura Gerding . Their daughter Laura
Anna Walters married Henry Henselmeier who are my mother's parents. I
need to know about Henry's parents if possible. They came from Germany.
Also, I am serching parents of my fathers grandfater, Christoph
Schaefer(might be spelled Schffer). any help is appreciated
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X-Message: #9
Date: 16 Sep 1997 02:58:30 GMT
From: "Desmond Spencer" <q...@hem.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc251$8a4be360$297765ce@desmonds>
Subject: civil war info
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i am looking for information on Toliver Spencer. he joined the company I,
5th virginia reserves in virginia, probably out of patrick county,
virginia. in need all pertinent info on this man, or how to get it.
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X-Message: #10
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 14:33:10 +1200
From: D M Lawlor <dm...@student.canteerbury.ac.nz>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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I'm wanting advice on how to go about tracing my mother's family tree.
Her maiden name is Quarmby which is an old Yorkshire (England) name.
The tree has been done previously going back to the Doomsday Book, but
somehow it has gone missing.
If someone could tell how I can get started, I would be most
appreciative.
Thanx
Dayle
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University of Canterbury
Christchurch
NEW ZEALAND
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X-Message: #11
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 23:16:23 -0400
From: "Kevin L. Crawford" <ke...@widomaker.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Clan information wanted...
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Hello,
I have been trying, with limited success, to track down any information
I can on the history of Clan Crawford (A Sept of Clan Lindsey)of
Scotland...
If anyone knows of some good sites to look into, please email me with
their URL's...
mailto:ke...@widomaker.com
or
mailto:tre...@megasurf.net
Thank you for any help you can provide...
- Kevin Crawford
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X-Message: #12
Date: 16 Sep 1997 03:04:17 GMT
From: jweav...@aol.com (Jweaver300)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970916030...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: civil war info
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>Subject: civil war info
>From: "Desmond Spencer" <q...@hem.com>
>Date: 16 Sep 1997 02:58:30 GMT
>Message-id: <01bcc251$8a4be360$297765ce@desmonds>
>
>i am looking for information on Toliver Spencer. he joined the company I,
>5th virginia reserves in virginia, probably out of patrick county,
>virginia. in need all pertinent info on this man, or how to get it.
I am working on a unit history of the Virginia Reserves, but haven;t
gotten around to abstracting these records yet. They are available, or at
least should be at the national archives. If you want to give me a bit of
time, and remind me at some point in the future, probably before 1st of the
year, I will let you know what I find out.
Warm regards
Jeff Weaver
Arlington, VA
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X-Message: #13
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 03:10:32 GMT
From: bwic...@pipeline.com (Brian Wickham)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: NYC Municipal Archives Info Sheet
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Following is a copy of the handout sheet from the Municipal Archives.
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NYC DEPARTMENT OF RECORDS & INFORMATION SERVICES
MUNICIPAL ARCHIVES
31 CHAMBERS STREET - ROOM 103, NEW YORK, NY 10007
212-788-8580
GENEALOGY COLLECTIONS
All of the records described below are available for research in the
Municipal Archives Reference Room, open Monday to Thursday, 9 AM to
4:30 PM, Friday, 9 AM to 1 PM. Search service via mail is available
for vital records and the 1890 NY City census only. Please consult
application forms for search and copy fee information.
VITAL RECORDS - Birth, death and marriage records are filed and
indexed according to the locality (Borough) in which the event
occurred. The following is a list of existing records for each
Borough.
MANHATTAN Births July 1847 - 1848; July 1853 - 1909
Deaths 1795; 1802 - 1804; 1808; 1812 - 1948
Marriages* June 1847 - 1848; July 1853 - 1937
BROOKLYN Births 1866 - 1909
Deaths 1847 - 1853; 1857 - 1948
Marriages* 1866 - 1937
BRONX Births 1898 - 1909
Deaths 1898 - 1948
Marriages* 1897 - 1937
The Bronx did not exist as a separate Borough until 1898. Before
then, the Bronx was part of Westchester County, except for certain
western areas which were annexed to New York (Manhattan) in 1874, and
eastern areas annexed in 1895. For vital records in those areas and
years, request a search for Manhattan.
QUEENS Births 1898 - 1909
Deaths 1898 - 1948
Marriages* 1898 - 1937
Town & Village Vital Records, 1847 - 1849; 1871 - 1898
RICHMOND Births 1898 - 1909
(Staten Island) Deaths 1898 - 1948
Marriages* 1898 - 1937
Town & Village Vital Records, 1847 - 1849; 1881 - 1897
CENSUS
MANHATTAN 1890 NY City (Manhattan only) "Police Census". Listed
according to address, the census recorded the name,
age and sex of each resident, including children.
BROOKLYN NY State Census, Kings Co., 1855, 1865,1875,1892,1905,
1915. Not indexed; listed by Ward, Assembly and
Election District number. Recorded name, family
relationship, sex, age, nativity, occupation and
citizenship status. No mail search service.
RICHMOND NY State Census, Richmond Co., 1855, 1865, 1870, 1875,
1880, 1915, 1925. Not indexed; similar information
as Kings Co. Census. No mail search service.
CITY DIRECTORY
MANHATTAN 1873-1913; 1915-1918; 1920; 1922; 1924; 1931; 1933
BROOKLYN 1796; 1802; 1811; 1822-1826; 1829-1910; 1912-1913;
1933. Listed alphabetically, by last name, head of
household (male adults primarily, women usually only
if widowed), his or her occupation, home address
and/or business address. No mail search service.
*Health Dept. marriage certificates and indexes for all Boroughs prior
to 1938 are available on microfilm. Index to City Clerk marriage
licenses for all Boroughs, 1908 through 1929, available on microfilm;
licenses 1908-1929 have not been microfilmed; license copies available
via special order only.
Info sheet dated 4-95
Brian Wickham
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X-Message: #14
Date: 15 Sep 1997 20:16:00 -0700
From: jm...@primenet.com (jmull)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vktlg$g...@nntp02.primenet.com>
Subject: Great NG
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I just wanted to let everyone know how I feel about this NG. If you
don't believe this, just look at a group for action figures. My
husbank is a collector and all you see on these groups are how much is
it worth, or very very prices. I have seen very few offers of help or
assistance, Once in agreat while you will see an offer for a figure
that is reasonable. If we could just stop the spammers this NG would
be perfect.
Claudette
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X-Message: #15
Date: 15 Sep 1997 21:09:21 -0700
From: FLOSS...@aol.com
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <97091600075...@emout16.mail.aol.com>
Subject: Re: address for records office
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Hi Joanne, Heres the address you are looking for:Dept. Of Health, Bureau Of
Vital Statistics, P.O. Box 15098, Columbus OH 43215-0098 Phone#614-466-2531
Fee is around 7-10 dollars. Hope this helps!! Sherrie
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X-Message: #16
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 02:25:05 GMT
From: rwje...@hctc.net
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Mother Theresa's Ancestry?
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On Sun, 7 Sep 1997 20:09:57 GMT, boya...@netcom.com (ned boyajian)
wrote:
>
>I've read that MOther Theresa was of Albanian descent. Does anybody know
>more?
>
>- ned
She was Albanian, but born in what was then Yugoslavia. She died a
naturalized Indian citizen.
Robert
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X-Message: #17
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 02:24:45 GMT
From: rwje...@hctc.net
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Militar Bases
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On Sat, 13 Sep 1997 13:24:08 -0400, "Jan S. Weinmann"
<jwei...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Ken Nelson wrote:
>
>> I am running into some situations where the individual was born on a
>> military base. My question concerns the county and city the military
>> base are considered for genealogy purposes. And would the state have
>> their Birth Certificates on file or would that be a federal thing.
>
> My daughter was born on Columbus Air Force Base, MS in 1985. Her
>birth is registered with the state. I suspect this is the norm for
>bases on US soil, at least for the recent past, but can't confirm this.
>I'm afraid I don't know how bases on foreign soil do it.
>
>Jan
Overseas, while there might be a local birth record (probably), the US
authorities DO issue birth documents. I think the State Department,
but I'm not sure. A call to the PAO (Public Affairs Office) at a
large base would probably help.
Robert
>
>
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X-Message: #18
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 02:24:58 GMT
From: rwje...@hctc.net
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341cb66c...@News.sig.net>
Subject: Re: Is this German
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On Sat, 06 Sep 1997 16:11:58 -0400, James A Honeychuck
<jimh...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>DBrodi6140 wrote:
>>=20
>> Where is this??? October 7, 1793 died Henry Doerkes, born December 20,
>> 1725 at Gunthersen in the electorate of Hanover. Where is this place?
>> Thanks in advance. Please EMail me at DBrod...@aol.com dixie
>> dixie lee brodigan
>
>Guntersen is about 50 miles due south of Hannover, and about 5 miles=20
>due west of G=F6ttingen, Germany. See MapQuest, http://www.mapquest.com=
=20
>
>Jim
For information, during the period of this person's life, Hannover was
the possession of the Kings of England.
Robert
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X-Message: #19
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 02:25:02 GMT
From: rwje...@hctc.net
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341cb73d...@News.sig.net>
Subject: Re: Royal Genealogy
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On Sun, 07 Sep 1997 15:12:53 -0400, Peter Schultz <schu...@erols.com>
wrote:
>
>> In article <5ut8ge$6...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>,
>> du...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Barbara Hopper) writes:
>> >Prince Charles is the Prince of Wales, a title he will retain
>> >until he dies or until he is crowned king.
>
>No. The previous Prince of Wales left the title behind without
>either dying or being crowned king.
The title "Prince of Wales" merged in the Crown when Prince David
became King Edward VIII, even though he was not crowned. When he
abdicated, the legal fiction of a "demise (death) of the Crown" was
declared, so that he could leave the Throne behind. So, even though he
didn't die, his Crown was declared to have died, and he became HRH
Prince Edward, and was later made Duke of Windsor by his borhter, the
new King, George VI, confusingly called Bertie by his family.
Robert
rwje...@hctc.net
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X-Message: #20
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 02:24:55 GMT
From: rwje...@hctc.net
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341cb55a...@News.sig.net>
Subject: All the JEWELL / JEWEL name
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I am seeking any and all information about any JEWELL (and variants
spellings) for a database I've established to try to pull together the
JEWELL families worldwide. I also send out an e-mail newsletter called
NEW JEWELL REGISTER (next issue in October). Will answer queries about
the name from available information, and will post to my mail list as
well.
Robert Jewell rwje...@hctc.net
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X-Message: #21
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 02:24:52 GMT
From: rwje...@hctc.net
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341cb41e...@News.sig.net>
Subject: Re: 1949 NYC Death Cert -- precise answer needed
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On Thu, 11 Sep 1997 18:35:48 -0700, Carl Cason
<cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>Cyndy Bates wrote:
>>
>> Brian Wickham wrote:
>> > I got my grandfather's death certificate from Dec 1949. I would
>> > suggest you spell out your relationship to the decedant on the form.
>> > Avoid the word 'genealogy'. Use something like 'establish > > parentage'.
>
>It's interesting how cities in the same state operate so differently. I
>requested a 1907 death certificate from the City of Albany (N.Y.) and
>received it in just over one week. It was stamped "FOR GENEALOGY ONLY",
>which I had stated in the request because it cost $4.00 less that way.
>
>--
>Carl Cason, of Bothell, Washington
>email: cca...@worldnet.att.net
>
I got a Texas certificate for my great uncle by saying that we were
trying to build a health record for the family.
Most places, this is valid and will be accepted. You will probably
have to establish relationship.
Robert
rwje...@hctc.net
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X-Message: #22
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 05:10:25 GMT
From: jsin...@mbay.net (John R. Sinnhuber)
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I am looking for the 1900 Federal Census Enumeration District (E.D. number)
for Cape May, in the county of Cape May, New Jersey? My Great Uncle Oswald
SINNHUBER was born there on 13 June 1900. Any help is greatly appreciated!
John R. Sinnhuber
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 90
Today's Topics:
#1 Re: Oregon Phone Directory Look-up [Ron Bestrom <RBes...@ix.netcom.co]
#2 Re: "Dode" = Dorothy???? [ltre...@webtv.net (leitha trefren]
#3 Re: Laptop's in research:Mac [cros...@gvn.net (John Crossley)]
#4 SLOAT; everywhere; anytiime [rsl...@aros.net (Rob Sloat)]
#5 Re: Military terminology [ocn...@aol.com (Ocnswim)]
#6 Re: WFT Serial # [locke...@aol.com (LOCKEroots)]
#7 Sch. County, Pa [Lynn <k...@pottsville.infi.net>]
#8 Re: FTM Upgrade Order ?? [Michael P Mina <MIN...@Bigpond.com]
#9 Surname DELIGHT [Evelyn Carpenter <hcarpenter@mail.]
#10 Re: Broderbund. [Andrew/Dorothy Hall <adhall-so.win]
#11 Re: City Directories ??? [Chris Wilkenshoff <chrisw5555@ecsu]
#12 Re: World Family Tree [Mohr One-Name Study <mohr@buffnet.]
#13 Re: finding surnames online [sco...@sd.znet.NOSPAM.com (Scott M]
#14 Clayton [lc...@compu.net]
#15 Robidoux genealogy [mrob...@cfl.forestry.ca]
#16 pedigree charts [deb...@oz.sunflower.org (deborah ]
#17 Subject:West George Henry;Kent,Eng ["Dave West" <d.w...@ukonline.co.u]
#18 MASHBURN, Edward; Nansemond Co., V [camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield]
#19 PENLAND, Matilda; Burke Co., NC,US [camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield]
#20 BREVARD, Sophia; Buncombe Co., NC, [camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield]
#21 POWELL, Thomas; Jamestown, VA,USA; [camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield]
#22 STOUT, John; Nottinghamshire, ENG; [camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield]
#23 FREE Seiko Watch! GREAT DEAL! [in...@pagersz.com]
#24 Does REUNION also print trees [d...@sparkasse.net (Jakob Moehs)]
#25 Re: Laptop's in research:Mac [Penelope Wythes <penny.wythes@zetn]
#26 Nan Ellefsen where do I find her? ["Knut Ellefsen" <knut.ellefsen@lev]
#27 Figuring out ages ["wycoff" <wyc...@lakenet.com>]
#28 missing links Belgium [h...@habcnx.stben.be (Hubert Barnic]
#29 Re: Figuring out ages ["Dick & Eleanor Weiss" <cryo@donet]
#30 Peter Nielsen-Lund [dani.wa...@alingsas.mail.teli]
#31 Re: Genealogical Relationship term ["Randrup, Peter & Eleanor" <hardhe]
#32 search US surnames online now [byron...@hotmail.com]
#33 Getting access to restric [barney.b...@moobasi.com (Barn]
#34 Re: Best shareware Geneological so [imzad...@aol.com (Imzadi2508)]
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X-Message: #1
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 21:22:26 -0700
From: Ron Bestrom <RBes...@ix.netcom.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Oregon Phone Directory Look-up
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Linda wrote:
> No, I HAD her address but my letters are coming back RETURN TO SENDER.
> She lives with her mother-in-law (who is not a nice person) and doesn't
> give her her messages and mail so I'm wondering if I even have the right
> address, Smartie!
OK, I have seen people on here trying to find someone that didn't want
to be found, this also may be the case, or not. Everyone should be
careful before giving out information concerning "lost relatives",
because they might not be 'lost' at all.
In any event, there is an online search system for phone books,
several actually, but if you know the number, or address you can also
search by that. Try:
Ron
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X-Message: #2
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 22:26:21 -0700
From: ltre...@webtv.net (leitha trefren)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vigtt$ebi$1...@newsd-121.bryant.webtv.net>
Subject: Re: "Dode" = Dorothy????
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My husband's Aunt Josephine b ca 1880 was called Dode.
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X-Message: #3
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 16:23:41 -0700
From: cros...@gvn.net (John Crossley)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: Laptop's in research:Mac
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In article <3417FE...@erols.com>, hard...@erols.com wrote:
>Likewise, using a Mac Performa 6300 at home, what might someone
>recommend using in the archives while traveling?
I have a PowerBook 520c that has been very helpful both in Salt Lake City
and locally. The one problem I've had is that some places won't allow me to
plug into the wall sockets. (They are worried that it will blow a fuse?) So
bring all your fully-charged batteries and take all energy conservation
measures.
I have mine set with a large disk cache and the disk is set to spindown
almost immediately. I have the backlight set to minmum. I put the computer
to sleep whenever I'll be more than a minute without using it.
On the plus side, I carry all of my digital genealogy data with me into the
library! I can immediately check if I see a name that sounds familiar.
The one wish I've had is that someone offer an inexpensive digital camera
with a high enough resolution so that I don't have to use the photocopy
machines or the microfilm printers! I haven't seen this device yet. :-)
Have fun!
John
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X-Message: #4
Date: 15 Sep 1997 05:52:34 GMT
From: rsl...@aros.net (Rob Sloat)
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Subject: SLOAT; everywhere; anytiime
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If you can't help us we can probably help you.
ROB
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X-Message: #5
Date: 15 Sep 1997 10:35:24 GMT
From: ocn...@aol.com (Ocnswim)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970915103...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Military terminology
Burden to the Navy, which is actually still used today. Just usally we
use "Unfit for Military duty", "Unfit for Military Lifestyle". Which would
be the nice way to get rid of a 15 year old.
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X-Message: #6
Date: 15 Sep 1997 10:50:09 GMT
From: locke...@aol.com (LOCKEroots)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970915105...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: WFT Serial #
>FTM says they want a serial #
>starting with 6 ????
Barbara , the serial # is on the CD carrying case ( Jewel case )
it is located on the lower right (bottom) hand corner in very small print
, it starts with a 6 , mine is a 7 didgit number , yours maybe differnt .
?
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X-Message: #7
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:03:19 +0000
From: Lynn <k...@pottsville.infi.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
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Subject: Sch. County, Pa
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New website devoted to genealogy in the Schuylkill County area of Pa.
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/4280
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Date: 15 Sep 97 13:10:44 GMT
From: Michael P Mina <MIN...@Bigpond.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341d3...@139.134.5.33>
Subject: Re: FTM Upgrade Order ??
Clarence .... I placed my order over the net on 20 August, it was mailed
on 25 August and arrived from California in Australia on 31 August. Can't
complain about that. I am sure someone will see your message in this
newsgroup and fix your problem.
Regards from the lucky country .... Michael P Mina
Clarence woodcock <DE...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> writes: > Has anyone else had a major delay in receiving the 4.0 upgrade after
> ordering it on-line at the FTM website?? I placed the order two weeks
> ago and have received no response of any kind. No acknowledgement of
> order, no email error message, and no upgrade software. What timeframe
> should I expect here ??
>
> (FWIW - if the folks at FTM are reading this - your web site is really
> the _worst_ with regard to customer service. Why do I have to ask a
> simple question like this one by going to Compuserve, AOL, or this
> newsgroup - when I am already looking at your logo ????? I would think
> that you would like to provide direct access for questions like this
> one, for obvious reasons.)
>
> Clarence Woodcock
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X-Message: #9
Date: 15 Sep 1997 12:20:59 GMT
From: Evelyn Carpenter <hcarp...@mail.telis.org>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vj97b$5tc$1...@mentor.telis.org>
Subject: Surname DELIGHT
Any info on would be greatly appreciated. Evelyn del...@radiolink.net
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X-Message: #10
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:56:06 -0400
From: Andrew/Dorothy Hall <adhall-s...@worldnet.att.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vjamu$d...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Broderbund.
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We submitted data through the On Line connection about 4 weeks ago.
Last week we received a post card acknowledging the submissions and
offering $10 off on any Broderbund product we desired to purchase.
We've submitted on several other occasions and always have received the
acknowledgement within a few weeks along with the $10.00 discount.
Andy and Dorothy Hall
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X-Message: #11
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:53:19 -0400
From: Chris Wilkenshoff <chris...@ecsu.campus.mci.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341D2FBF...@ecsu.campus.mci.net>
Subject: Re: City Directories ???
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I was looking for New York City, including Brooklyn.
Chris Wilkenshoff
RWilli1380 wrote:
> What Cities are you interested in ? I know of NO city Dirctories that are
> on line. The FHC nearest to you may have some directories on microfilm or
> they may be ordered fron Salt Lake..
> Bob
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X-Message: #12
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 03:00:29 -0400
From: Mohr One-Name Study <mo...@buffnet.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341B8B...@buffnet.net>
Subject: Re: World Family Tree
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I've seen a World Family Tree Submitter's List Page on the web.
Not sure if this is what you want because I have never used either the
page or the CDs. Try: http://www.inlink.com/~nomi/wftlist.html
Bill Gatchell wrote:
>
> I seen on the World Family Tree webpage they have an option of finding
> out the submitter of different surnames. I don't currently own WFT.
> Anyway of getting submitter's name without purchases the CD? There's
> only one I've found my surname on, thats Volume #2. But to get the info
> from their webpager server you need to know the CD ID#...
>
> Bill Gatchell
> San Antonio, Tx
> gatc...@intersatx.net
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X-Message: #13
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 00:36:11 -0700
From: sco...@sd.znet.NOSPAM.com (Scott Myers)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <scottm-1309...@sdts11-96.znet.com>
Subject: Re: finding surnames online
In article <5v7ts6$n...@nova.igrin.co.nz>, anpi...@igrin.co.nz (Anne
Picketts) wrote:
> > http:/members.tripod.com/~surnames
>
> No DNS entry!!
You just need to enter another "slash" after http...
Scott
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X-Message: #14
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 09:07:46 +0000
From: lc...@compu.net
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341CFA...@compu.net>
Subject: Clayton
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Looking for any information on Henry H. Clayton, he was born in Farmland
Indiana, and moved to Actchinson county MO. He is my Great Grandfather,
my Grandfathers name was Paul Bertrum Clayton.
Thank You,
Larry Clayton
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X-Message: #15
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 09:22:21 -0600
From: mrob...@cfl.forestry.ca
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <8740930...@dejanews.com>
Subject: Robidoux genealogy
I am presently working on the Robidoux family tree and I am interested in
obtaining genealogy freeware. Does anyone have a couple of suggestions for
me? Since I am just starting out, I am looking for something fairly easy
to use. All my information is on paper and it is becoming overwhelming.
Thanks.
(Mrs) Meridel Robidoux Mercier
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X-Message: #16
Date: 15 Sep 1997 09:00:42 -0700
From: deb...@oz.sunflower.org (deborah crain)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341D76...@oz.sunflower.org>
Subject: pedigree charts
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where can I submit mine on internet.
is there a mailing list for pedigree charts.
--
Please don't send gedcom files.
If you would like a copy of my pedigree chart please email me.
mailto:deb...@oz.sunflower.org
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X-Message: #17
Date: 15 Sep 1997 16:11:15 GMT
From: "Dave West" <d.w...@ukonline.co.uk>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc1f2$2a308300$2271...@default.hi-net.co.uk>
Subject: Subject:West George Henry;Kent,England;C.1860-1967
Any information about my great grandfather named above would really be
appreciated as i'm trying to sort out my family tree and have ended up well
and truly stuck.please mail me at d.w...@ukonline.co.uk
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X-Message: #18
Date: 15 Sep 1997 17:11:34 GMT
From: camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vjq86$g...@bl-4.rootsweb.com>
Subject: MASHBURN, Edward; Nansemond Co., VA,USA; 1719
MASHBURN, Edward; Nansemond Co., VA,USA; 1719
EDWARD MASHBURN of Upper Parish, Nansemond Co., Va., bought 300 acres on
Catawhitskey Meadow, Bertie Co., N.C., 30 Jun 1719 (Colonial Records).
Possibley, he was the schoolmaster Mashburn found on the Virginia/N.C.
border in Chowan (later Gates) Co. in 1712.
Edward had numerous children, including Mathew, d. ca. 1760, Northampton,
N.C.
I am interested mainly at present in any existing iinformation on this
Edward's origins. Regarding his descendants, I am not interested in
re-examining (still again) the 1974 manuscript of Edna Simpson--but I am
interested in finding a line to the MATTHEW MASHBURN of Burke County, N.C.,
whose daughter Elizabeth was born ca. 1799.
Thanks,
Tom Camfield - camf...@olympus.net
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X-Message: #19
Date: 15 Sep 1997 17:14:55 GMT
From: camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vjqef$h...@bl-4.rootsweb.com>
Subject: PENLAND, Matilda; Burke Co., NC,USA; 1799-1841
PENLAND, Matilda; Burke Co., NC,USA; 1799-1841
MATILDA J. PENLAND's alleged birth year of 1799 is suspect, as her first
child was not born until 1828. She married WILLIAM BRITTAIN WESTALL (a.k.a.
William M. Westall), 1805-1882, of Burke, Buncombe and Yancey Counties,
N.C.
Matilda appears to have had Buncombe Co. ancestry, but it is clouded by
controversy and confusion.
Can anyone document her parents for me?
Many thanks for your consideration,
Tom Camfield - camf...@olympus.net
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X-Message: #20
Date: 15 Sep 1997 17:20:04 GMT
From: camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vjqo4$h...@bl-4.rootsweb.com>
Subject: BREVARD, Sophia; Buncombe Co., NC,USA; 1821-1849
BREVARD, Sophia; Buncombe Co., NC,USA; 1821-1849
SOPHIA BREVARD, b. 3 Aug 1821; d. 21 Sep 1849; m. MATTHEW DAVIS,
Burke/Buncombe Co., N.C.
I seek to verify Sophia as a daughter of JAMES BREVARD, 1794-1847 (son of
Zebulon Jr., son of John) and RUTH ASHWORTH (b. 13 Feb. 1805). A
discouraging aspect of this alleged connection is that Rugh would have had
to be pregnant at age 15.
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Tom Camfield - camf...@olympus.net
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X-Message: #21
Date: 15 Sep 1997 17:24:02 GMT
From: camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vjqvi$h...@bl-4.rootsweb.com>
Subject: POWELL, Thomas; Jamestown, VA,USA; 1595-1623
POWELL, Thomas; Jamestown, VA,USA; 1595-1623
THOMAS POWELL of Jamestown Fort, b. ca. 1595, Powellton, Suffolk, England;
killed at Jamestown, Va., by Indians 24 Jan 1623; m. Martha Parker.
According to the undocumented information provided me, Thomas fathered
William Powell, b. ca. 1619, Wales; d. 12 Nov. 1695 Wight Co., Va. (m.
Elizabeth Gorsuch). I am a bit concerned about this apparent side trip to
Wales en route to Virginia on the part of Thomas (but that is another
matter...)
Does anyone have information on the attack at Jamestown on 24 Jan 1623? I
so far have found only mention of a furious assulat launched along a
140-mile front in March of 1622.
I also would like to document the connection between Thomas and William.
Thanks for your time,
Tom Camfield - camf...@olympus.net
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X-Message: #22
Date: 15 Sep 1997 17:26:21 GMT
From: camf...@olympus.net (Tom Camfield)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vjr3t$h...@bl-4.rootsweb.com>
Subject: STOUT, John; Nottinghamshire, ENG; m. 1609
STOUT, John; Nottinghamshire, ENG; m. 1609
JOHN STOUT m. 13 Nov 1609, Burton Joyce, Nottinghamshire, England,
ELIZABETH BEE. Dos anyone have ancestry for either John or Elizabeth,
parents of American immigrant RICHARD STOUT (b. 1615)?
Thanks,
Tom Camfield - camf...@olympus.net
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Date: 15 Sep 97 07:58:07 GMT
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X-Message: #24
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 17:45:37 GMT
From: d...@sparkasse.net (Jakob Moehs)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341c2145...@news.nacamar.de>
Subject: Does REUNION also print trees
Hi,
does REUNION also print trees?
If so, is there a limit to the size or the generations?
Thanx
Jakob
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X-Message: #25
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 07:53:47 +0100
From: Penelope Wythes <penny....@zetnet.co.uk>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <199709150...@zetnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Laptop's in research:Mac
In message <crossley-ya023680...@news.gvn.net>
cros...@gvn.net (John Crossley) writes:
> I have a PowerBook 520c that has been very helpful both in Salt Lake City
> and locally. The one problem I've had is that some places won't allow me to
> plug into the wall sockets. (They are worried that it will blow a fuse?) So
> bring all your fully-charged batteries and take all energy conservation
> measures.
Or use a Psion that runs off 2 AA batteries for several months - and
has backup batteries that last for several years. You can connect to
mains but personally I never bother.
Penny
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X-Message: #26
Date: 15 Sep 97 17:38:12 GMT
From: "Knut Ellefsen" <knut.e...@levanger.mail.telia.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc1fd$b2791e60$0de8ccc3@default>
Subject: Nan Ellefsen where do I find her?
She was born between 1914 and 1922. Her dad came from Tronheim, Norway.
Her last known adress was 1027 N. Kramer blvd. Placentia, California. She
was
marrid two times. First with a man called Arp then Smith.
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X-Message: #27
Date: 15 Sep 1997 18:03:52 GMT
From: "wycoff" <wyc...@lakenet.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc212$2e0af080$2f4d93ce@wycoff>
Subject: Figuring out ages
Is there a web site I can use to calucate birthdates when I have the date
of death and age in years, months, and days?
I think I saw this posted before and that I bookmarked it - but I can't
find it.
Many thanks
Mary Ann
<wyc...@lakenet.com>
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X-Message: #28
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 20:42:30 +0100
From: h...@habcnx.stben.be (Hubert Barnich)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <MSGID_2=3A293=2F2602.27...@fidonet.org>
Subject: missing links Belgium
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Hi fabienne,
In a message of <Sun 7 Sep 97 05:52> to All (), you wrote:
f> To those that read this, I have but little to ask.
f> My father died last year 1996 and left a deep feeling of loss in our family
f> of 6.
I found 235 TRICOT in the Belgian Phone books!
and they are everywhere in Belgium!!!
So, if you know where your father was born, it would be far easier
for to give you a contact here!
I have myself 2 people with that name in my database: they are from Namur
Look at our site: http://www.mygale.org/08/hbarnich/patronym.htm
or "genefam.htm"
And don't forget we have also as many people with the name DRICOT!
f> he never spoke of his family (Tricot) from Belgium.
f> it was to painful for him and we did not press the issue. Now my brothers
f> and I find
f> ourselves asking question we simply cant answer.
f> We know we have cousins, to our fathers brother German Tricot.
f> still living in Belgium, our grandfather was one of seven sons. so there
f> must be more out there.
f> If you come across anything that may help. please, just post a message.
f> we are always looking.
f> our appreciation to all,
f> Tricot family.
Bye, Hubert.
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X-Message: #29
Date: 15 Sep 1997 18:28:41 GMT
From: "Dick & Eleanor Weiss" <cr...@donet.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc204$e7d22d20$897185cd@cryo>
Subject: Re: Figuring out ages
Go to http://www.enws347.eas.asu.edu:8000/~bdform.html
hope you can understand it.
Good Luck Eleanor
wycoff <wyc...@lakenet.com> wrote in article
<01bcc212$2e0af080$2f4d93ce@wycoff>...
> Is there a web site I can use to calucate birthdates when I have the date
> of death and age in years, months, and days?
> I think I saw this posted before and that I bookmarked it - but I can't
> find it.
> Many thanks
> Mary Ann
> <wyc...@lakenet.com>
>
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X-Message: #30
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 20:26:20 +0200
From: dani.wa...@alingsas.mail.telia.com
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341D7D...@alingsas.mail.telia.com>
Subject: Peter Nielsen-Lund
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I'm serching for Peter Nielsen-Lund, surgeon in the danish army,died
1822 in Helsingor. He was married to Marie Nielsdotter-Svendsen. If
anybody have any information please send it to:
mailto:dani.wa...@alingsas.mail.telia.com
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X-Message: #31
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 17:51:02 +0000
From: "Randrup, Peter & Eleanor" <hard...@erols.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341D75...@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Genealogical Relationship terms
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Is there a term "step-cousin" or "half-cousin"?
My father had half -brothers and -sisters. His mother
was a widow with a previous family; his father was a
widower with a previous family.
TIA
Peter
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X-Message: #32
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 13:52:54 -0600
From: byron...@hotmail.com
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <8743490...@dejanews.com>
Subject: search US surnames online now
You can search for your ancestors or relatives surnames online
right now at my homepage:
http://members.tripod.com/~surnames
where there are links to over 125 surname searchable databases in
the United States, Canada, England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, as well
as databases relating to the whole world.
You can search
ship's passenger lists
censuses
government records
private databases
surname interest lists
There are also many useful links to such resources as a volunteer register
where you can request a fellow genealogy enthusiast to carry out a free
search in his or her country for you; and a link to online telephone
directories around the world.
I hope this will help you in your search,
good luck
Ian
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X-Message: #33
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 11:07:00 GMT
From: barney.b...@moobasi.com (Barney Barnhardt)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <97091311...@moobasi.com>
Subject: Getting access to restric
DN> In response to my request for a 1911 death certificate of a possible
DN> ancestor, I received a letter saying the record is restricted to
DN> "proper judicial order, upon the request of the parent, attorney,
DN> guardian or conservator."
DN>
DN> This confused me, so I called the town clerk to ask why this would be
DN> still in effect for a 86 year-old death record when any parents,
DN> guardians, etc. would have been dead years ago. I was told that only
DN> way I could get a copy would be wait until 2011.
DN>
DN> Since I'm sure others have run across this in your research, any
DN> suggestions? Also, why might a death record be restricted?
DN>
To protect the privacy of those involved. Probably much the same reason as
census records aren't released for some period of time. Contrary to what
some people think, most "public servants" don't care who gets it and when as
long as the rules and laws permit them to give it out.
Barney...
... barney.b...@appletons.com / barney.b...@moobasi.com
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X-Message: #34
Date: 15 Sep 1997 19:01:20 GMT
From: imzad...@aol.com (Imzadi2508)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970915190...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Best shareware Geneological software program for novice
I use Gene 4.2. It is a MAC program. It is very good. Can import and
export gedcom files, make trees and pedigree charts, add photos, and more.
>Any options on Genealogy software in general? I'd like to start with a
>shareware program then move up.
>Thanks!
Barbara Pellecchia <Imzad...@aol.com>
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ALT-GENEALOGY-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 93
Today's Topics:
#1 Avoid Family Tree Maker (MacOS)!!! [dege...@bmsrs.usc.edu (Ray DeGenn]
#2 Hamblin ["J. Burtch" <jbu...@mnsi.net>]
#3 SAKOSKY [jimb...@aol.com (Jimbo WIN)]
#4 From Liverpool to New York in 1853 [r.habe...@uni-bonn.de (Robert A]
#5 From Liverpool to New York in 1853 [r.habe...@uni-bonn.de (Robert A]
#6 Haberstroh home page [r.habe...@uni-bonn.de (Robert A]
#7 Surname "Flonk" [Rick Tuinstra <*tuinstra*@wave.co.]
#8 3300+ SURNAMES - FREE ACCESS ["James L. Edenfield" <e...@hom.net>]
#9 S.E. Alabama Telephone Directories [remi...@snowhill.com (ceya)]
#10 Re: Passenger records [hbe...@vip.cybercity.dk]
#11 Generations Magazine - New Brunswi [mpke...@europa.com]
#12 First name 'Balzona'? [Rick Charnes <charnes@concentric.n]
#13 Multilingual genealogy software ? [or...@hazard.cs.huji.ac.il (Orit S]
#14 LUBON [wayn...@bit.net.au (wayne moloney]
#15 HOPPE [wayn...@bit.net.au (wayne moloney]
#16 LINDEMANN [wayn...@bit.net.au (wayne moloney]
#17 KAHLER [wayn...@bit.net.au (wayne moloney]
#18 Re: LDS Library, Salt Lake City [Wayne Howell <who...@gensearch.co]
#19 Re: Broderbund. ["Glenn E. Green" <glenngreen@sprin]
#20 CLUETT emigration to the US 1851? [Dave Smith <da...@quaker.demon.co.u]
#21 Re: Avoid Family Tree Maker (MacOS [r...@ultranet.com (Rich Long)]
#22 Re: Avoid Family Tree Maker (MacOS [**bob...@ma.ultranet.com** (Bob Bo]
#23 Re: Robidoux genealogy [Michael P Mina <MIN...@Bigpond.com]
#24 Cemetery,Dover,NJ [let...@aol.com (LETHAR)]
#25 Save Texas Cemeteries 4th Quarter [save...@aol.com (Save Grave)]
#26 Re: "Dode" = Dorothy???? [llde...@aol.com (LL DeMerle)]
#27 Cummings family [The Gonya Family <nklplate@bright.]
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X-Message: #1
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 23:13:08 -0700
From: dege...@bmsrs.usc.edu (Ray DeGennaro )
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <degennar-150...@hcis-p02.hsc.usc.edu>
Subject: Avoid Family Tree Maker (MacOS)!!!
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Here's a copy of the letter I just sent Broderbund while returning Family
Treemaker Deluxe II:
-Br=F8derbund Software
-775 Southpoint Blvd.
-Petaluma, CA 94953
-ATTN: Returns
-
-Sirs:
-
-I am returning Family Tree Maker Deluxe II (FTM) for Mac OS because of
-numerous problems with the software and the technical support provided f=
or
-this product. Overall, this is the most disappointing piece of software =
I
-have used on the Macintosh platform. Enclosed is the product and the
-original sales receipt. Please send a check for $97.37 (purchase price +
-sales tax) to the above address.
-
-I believe all of the problems with the product are due to your use of
-Microsoft's Foundation Classes and their Porability Libraries instead of
-writing native code for the Mac OS. The first group of problems are a
-direct result of using these libraries: lack of 68k support, lack of
-sound, picture and video support, 15mb disk footprint, frequent crashes,=
=20
-"AHA" and "Unknown error 100" errors, and an item named "main" appears
-among the desk accessories while FTM is in the foreground.=20
-
-The second group of problems reveal FTM's Windows heritage: GEDCOM files
-must end in .ged before FTM will import them. Clicking the close box in
-the upper left corner quits the application instead of closing the curre=
nt
-document. The program uses all the function keys at the top of the
-keyboard and mostly ignores command keys. Double clicking a file in the
-Finder open the application and the last file accessed from within the
-application, not the file that was selected in the Finder. Help files an=
d
-pop-up help are totally non-standard.
-
-There are a number of problems with printing: The standard Mac OS "Page
-Setup=8A" dialog is not used. The user can not shift-click or command-cl=
ick
-(to extend the selection) in the batch print list. Batch prints are sent
-as separate documents and the printer settings are applied only to the
-first document =8B This completely breaks N-up printing (a standard feat=
ure
-of the Mac OS).
-
-There are features of the Mac OS that are ignored or incorrectly
-implemented: Pressing the help key should bring-up the help and not F1.
-Balloon help (which can be turned on or off) should be used instead of t=
he
-yellow boxes. Apple's Apple Guide should be used instead of porting
-Microsoft's Help Reader. The previously mentioned printing problems.
-Aliases are not properly supported =8B I placed an alias to my data file=
in
-the Launcher Items folder (to make it easier to access) and when I start=
ed
-FTM via this alias, my files were saved over the alias, instead being
-saved in their current location. FTM is completely ignorant of the
-Notification Manager =8B programs running in the background can flash an
-icon in the application menu when then need attention; the user will not
-see this until they either quit FTM or switch it to the background.
-
-I also experienced a number of problems with disk access: I pressed the
-switch CD button, the current CD was ejected but when I inserted the nex=
t
-CD, it would not mount and there was not way to cancel the operation and
-continue in FTM, I had to reboot my computer. FTM will not allow the use=
r
-to save over an old back-up file =8B FTM should present the user with th=
e
-standard Cancel/Replace dialog. I received the following error: "Your di=
sk
-seems to be in the wrong diskette drive. Please place the correct disk i=
n
-the correct drive." =8B This is not possible on a Macintosh.
-
-The final group of problems involve your technical support lines: The
-phone number is not toll-free. Straight out of the box, one of the CD's
-was damaged; when I called to have it replaced and the tech support
-representative tried to tell me that I did not have the proper software
-installed, even though I told him that I could access all of the other
-CD's properly. Despite two requests, I still have not received the
-replacement CD's. When I called regarding the alias and back-up file
-problems, I was told that I was using the software incorrectly =8B When =
I
-tried to explain that I was just using standard Mac OS features, the tec=
h
-support representative (a different one than the bad CD rep) snipped, "W=
hy
-do you insist on doing that? Just use it the way you're supposed to!"
-
-As I stated earlier, I am very disappointed in this software and your
-company's Technical Support and that this was the worst implementation o=
f
-the Mac OS user interface that I have ever encountered. At this point I =
am
-very hesitant about purchasing any other Mac OS product your company
-publishes.
-
-Sincerely,
-
-Raymond DeGennaro II
-
-
-Enclosures.=20
ray
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Ray DeGennaro
<mailto:dege...@bmsrs.usc.edu>
<http://www-scf.usc.edu/~rayd>
----------
It's cold comfort, To the ones without it, To know how they struggled -- =
How they suffered about it. If their lives were exotic and strange, They=
would likely have, Gladly exchanged them, For sommething a little more p=
lain, Maybe something a little more sane.
--- From "The Mission", Rush
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X-Message: #2
Date: 16 Sep 1997 06:09:20 GMT
From: "J. Burtch" <jbu...@mnsi.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc267$cb6141e0$de7930ce@jeff-burtch>
Subject: Hamblin
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I am currently trying to research the "Hamblin" side of my family,
originating from the U.K. Somewhere around the Colchester area. Does
anyone have any info? Are you a long lost relative?
Jeff
jbu...@mnsi.net
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X-Message: #3
Date: 16 Sep 1997 06:50:37 GMT
From: jimb...@aol.com (Jimbo WIN)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970916065...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: SAKOSKY
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Trying to find the roots of this surname. My great-grandfather, Frederick
Sakosky, came to the US around 1900, but I have no idea from where.
Any ideas?
Jim Warren
jimb...@aol.com
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X-Message: #4
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 15:40:32 GMT
From: r.habe...@uni-bonn.de (Robert A. Haberstroh)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vlc1d$s...@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
Subject: From Liverpool to New York in 1853
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In connection with research on my family tree I've determined that
several of my Haberstroh ancestors emigrated from Germany to America
via Liverpool. They arrived at the Port of New York on 19 April 1853
on the ship Progress from Liverpool; the captain was John Chase. I'm
very much interested in learning:
a) when the ship left Liverpool
b) if it was a sailing ship, or a steamship
c) if and how one can obtain a copy of the list of passengers at
departure.
I'd much appreciate any information - addresses of further sources,
e.g. - you may be able to provide me with.
Robert Haberstroh
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X-Message: #5
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 15:43:54 GMT
From: r.habe...@uni-bonn.de (Robert A. Haberstroh)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vlc7o$s...@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
Subject: From Liverpool to New York in 1853
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In connection with research on my family tree I've determined that
several of my Haberstroh ancestors emigrated from Germany to America
via Liverpool. They arrived at the Port of New York on 19 April 1853
on the ship Progress from Liverpool; the captain was John Chase. I'm
very much interested in learning:
a) when the ship left Liverpool
b) if it was a sailing ship, or a steamship
c) if and how one can obtain a copy of the list of passengers at
departure.
I'd much appreciate any information - addresses of further sources,
e.g. - you may be able to provide me with.
Robert Haberstroh, Bonn, Germany
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X-Message: #6
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 16:02:04 GMT
From: r.habe...@uni-bonn.de (Robert A. Haberstroh)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vld9o$s...@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
Subject: Haberstroh home page
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Problems involved in researching my Haberstroh ancestors, who
emigrated from the town of Diefenbach, Wuerttemberg, Germany, to
America around 1850 are described in the following home page:
www.rhrz.uni-bonn.de/~unq01e
Robert Haberstroh, Bonn, Germany
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X-Message: #7
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 19:58:21 +1200
From: Rick Tuinstra <*tuinstra*@wave.co.nz>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341E3C...@wave.co.nz>
Subject: Surname "Flonk"
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We are trying to get information about the Family name " Flonk " where
the name has been derived from.
Original from the province Groningen, around Leek (the Netherlands).
Has someone information about this and/or point us in the right
direction to where to find information about Surnames.
All information is appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
A Tuinstra-Flonk.
--
When replying, please remove the "*" on either side of tuinstra.
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X-Message: #8
Date: 16 Sep 97 09:24:00 GMT
From: "James L. Edenfield" <e...@hom.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc281$dd26ab80$987ed8cc@default>
Subject: 3300+ SURNAMES - FREE ACCESS
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There over 3300 surnames and 25,300 individuals at
http://www.hom.net/~egs
FREE ACCESS to DATABASE!!!
THANKS
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X-Message: #9
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 09:41:03 GMT
From: remi...@snowhill.com (ceya)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341e5367...@news.snowhill.com>
Subject: S.E. Alabama Telephone Directories
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I am disposing of some S.E. Alabama and surrounding area telephone
directories. The years range anywhere from 1970s to 1990s.
These directories are excellent for researchers with ties that connect
to this area or for people doing adoptee research.
I have almost stopped doing research for others and no longer need
these references. I need the shelf space more than anything else
right now.
If interested, write and I will check to see what I have for you.
Also, inquire about the price of each directory--some are very small
and some are large.
Ceya
Remi...@snowhill.com
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X-Message: #10
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 05:01:16 -0600
From: hbe...@vip.cybercity.dk
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <8744037...@dejanews.com>
Subject: Re: Passenger records
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In article <341AB6...@execpc.com>,
mo...@execpc.com wrote:
>
> Even though I know the port, month and year of arrival I still have been
> unable to locate several different families in the New York passenger
> lists. I have even checked a month before and after the given month
> without success and have considered different spellings of the surname.
> Does anyone have any suggestions?
> Katie M
No wonder - only for the year of 1869 I have found about 1.600 Danish
Immigrants wrongly registrated in the New York arrival lists. Wrong
nationality - Danes are registrated as Germans, and wrong names, ages and
sexes. The reason this can be stated is that the departure lists for
Danes emigrating from Denmark, directly or indirectly through Hamburg or
Liverpool - or Hamburg-Hull-Liverpool - are kept 1868-1940 - and can be
found at the on-line database http://www.cybercity.dk/users/ccc13656 One
ship only - "Minnesota" arriving New York July 28, 1869 from Liverpool
has according to the New York arrivals 664 German passengers - but in
fact these 664 Germans are 34 germans, 316 Danes, 292 swedes, 19
norwegians and 3 slesvigians As example: Minnesota arrival July 28, 1869:
628: Moren Nielsen, age 38, male, worker, german 629: Moren Christensen,
age 22, male, worker, german 630: Margrethe Jensen, age 27, female,
spinner, german
are in fact, when departuring Copenhagen July 8, 1869: C 5270 Maren
Nielsen, age 59, female, widower, Kraglund, county Aalborg, Denmark C
5270 Maren Christensen, age 22, female, daughter, same place C 5270
Margrethe Jensen, age 27, female, daughter, same place
so even the sexes are sometimes changed when arriving New York.
This may makes it difficult to refind the right persons.
Henning Bender
Danish Emigration Archives
e-mail hbe...@email.dk
http://www.cybercity.dk/users/ccc13656
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X-Message: #11
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 23:39:46 GMT
From: mpke...@europa.com
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vf85r$oqn$2...@usenet76.supernews.com>
Subject: Generations Magazine - New Brunswick - need articles
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Does anyone have a copy of the magazine entitled "Generations"? I am
looking for two articles. I would be happy to reimburse the costs of
mailing or faxing the articles to me. Here is what I am looking for:
Yerxa/Jurckse - Yerxa Family - New Brunswick
Generations - Volume 55, Spring 1993
Yerxa/Yerxa-Gerow Family - New Brunswick
Generations - Volume 56, Summer 1993
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards,
Molly Kernan
mpke...@europa.com
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X-Message: #12
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 06:31:18 -0400
From: Rick Charnes <cha...@concentric.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341E5FF6...@concentric.net>
Subject: First name 'Balzona'?
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Looking in one of the 1850 and 1860 Texas censuses for a friend of mine,
we find the sister of one of her relations is named 'Balzona', possibly
spelled 'Bilzona'. Is anyone familiar with this first name? Have never
heard it before and am curious about it. Possibly a common Texan or
southern name of the 19th century? Thanks.
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X-Message: #13
Date: 16 Sep 1997 10:18:05 GMT
From: or...@hazard.cs.huji.ac.il (Orit Shacham)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vlmct$ssd$1...@news.huji.ac.il>
Subject: Multilingual genealogy software ?
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I am looking for genealogy software (for Windows 3.1, Win95, Mac or Unix)
that can handle Romanian, Magyar (Hungarian) and Hebrew. This means both
being able to accept several different fonts for names and descriptions,
and also acceping right-to-left as well as left-to-right input.
Please e-mail your replies, my news server is unreliable. I will post
a summary.
Thanks,
Orit Shacham
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X-Message: #14
Date: 16 Sep 1997 10:49:17 GMT
From: wayn...@bit.net.au (wayne moloney)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vlo7d$r2c$4...@hermes.bit.net.au>
Subject: LUBON
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i am researching the LUBON FAMILY in Meltzov in germany in the 1860s.
Can anybody out there help me .
thank you
wayne an aussie.
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X-Message: #15
Date: 16 Sep 1997 10:43:12 GMT
From: wayn...@bit.net.au (wayne moloney)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vlns0$r2c$1...@hermes.bit.net.au>
Subject: HOPPE
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i am researching the HOPPE FAMILY in Meichow, Germany in the 1870's.
Is any body out there doing the same.
please contact me
thank you
wayne , an aussie.
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X-Message: #16
Date: 16 Sep 1997 10:47:38 GMT
From: wayn...@bit.net.au (wayne moloney)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vlo4a$r2c$3...@hermes.bit.net.au>
Subject: LINDEMANN
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i am researching the LINDEMANN FAMILY in Milow , Germany in the 1830s.
Can anybody out there help me.
Thank you
wayne an aussie.
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X-Message: #17
Date: 16 Sep 1997 10:45:18 GMT
From: wayn...@bit.net.au (wayne moloney)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <5vlnvu$r2c$2...@hermes.bit.net.au>
Subject: KAHLER
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I am reseasrching the KAHLER Family in Bovenau & Keil in Germany in the 1860s.
I have some names & many in Australia.
Can anybody help me.
Thank you
Wayne an aussie.
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X-Message: #18
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 17:34:01 -0700
From: Wayne Howell <who...@gensearch.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341B30F9...@gensearch.com>
Subject: Re: LDS Library, Salt Lake City
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Greg Lenway wrote:
> You might want to check out a Family Research Center at a local LDS
> church
> near your home before making a special trip there. They have much of
> what's
> there on film and additional material can be ordered very reasonably.
> We
> were very dissapointed at what we found. It was a real bust. We had
> heard so
> much about their genealogy records we thought it was going to be a
> gold
> mine. We found nothing. We have been able to find much more from local
>
> public libraries.
>
> Claude Wood wrote in article <3412b7c...@news.iwvisp.com>...
>
> >I'm planning a visit to the LDS library in Salt Lake City. Has
> anyone
> >been there who can give me some pointers? Where's the best place to
> >start, etc. Also, does anyone know of an RV park in that general
> >area? Never having been there, I don't want to waste research time
> >stumbling around trying to find where to start. If you answer by
> >email I am certain to receive it. Thanks in advance.
Claude... You _can_ get the same films through your local Family
History Center that are available from SLC.....if you want to wait for
them to be delivered, look up a bit of information, order another film,
wait, etc.....one big advantage of being at SLC is the instant
availablity of any film you want. The biggest advantage of SLC is
the printed word....to suggest that a local public library can provide
more than the FHC in SLC is really misleading! NO library even begins
to duplicate the research books/materials that are available there, and
most of those materials are NOT available via the local FHC.
This reply, stating that they found nothing there at SLC, sure
suggests that they didn't have any idea what they were doing to start
with. And, to state that local public libraries were more helpful
borders on being absurd.
--
......Wayne Howell
who...@gensearch.com
Port Townsend, WA
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X-Message: #19
Date: 16 Sep 1997 11:37:10 GMT
From: "Glenn E. Green" <glenn...@sprintmail.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <01bcc294$ddebd5a0$a15585ce@00PV8SIA>
Subject: Re: Broderbund.
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I must agree with Charles
I have never had a better software program. As far as the WFT
goes, I have found a few connections, and am hopeful of more.
I suppose the reason the vast majority of traffic here is about
Borderbund is that the vast majority of users out there are
using it.
I've tried several demos of other programs, and found none to be
as good as FTW.
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X-Message: #20
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 12:55:22 +0100
From: Dave Smith <da...@quaker.demon.co.uk>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <AlizYLAq...@quaker.demon.co.uk>
Subject: CLUETT emigration to the US 1851?
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My wife is tracing her Cluett/Clewett ancestors. One of the family
married in early 1851 but disappears from the 1851 census at Portsmouth.
Another Cluett with a rare middle name (Vincent) which is the family
name of one of the female side appears in the US IGI. We strongly
suspect that the couple may have emigrated in early 1851 before the
census. A later generation of the same family emigrated to Canada.
Has anyone in the US come across this family name?
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X-Message: #21
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 08:19:45 -0500
From: r...@ultranet.com (Rich Long)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <rcl-160997...@d30.dial-1.nsh.nh.ultra.net>
Subject: Re: Avoid Family Tree Maker (MacOS)!!!
MIME-Version: 1.0
In article <degennar-150...@hcis-p02.hsc.usc.edu>,
dege...@bmsrs.usc.edu (Ray DeGennaro ) wrote:
> Here's a copy of the letter I just sent Broderbund while returning Family
> Treemaker Deluxe II:
[...]
Ray,
Sorry to hear of the troubles you've had with FTM. I've been avoiding
Broderbund products because of their lack of attention to the Mac version
of Print Shop Deluxe, and it looks like my decision was wise!
You may want to check out Reunion from Leister Productions. There was a
news item recently that they've gone Mac-only, so I'd expect it to be a
pretty good product.
There are also other programs, which I'm sure other folks can expand upon.
Best,
Rich
--
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X-Message: #22
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 08:35:55 -0500
From: **bob...@ma.ultranet.com** (Bob Bowers)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <**boblex-1609...@d114.b64.cmb.ma.ultra.net>
Subject: Re: Avoid Family Tree Maker (MacOS)!!!
MIME-Version: 1.0
In article <rcl-160997...@d30.dial-1.nsh.nh.ultra.net>,
r...@ultranet.com (Rich Long) wrote:
> In article <degennar-150...@hcis-p02.hsc.usc.edu>,
> dege...@bmsrs.usc.edu (Ray DeGennaro ) wrote:
>
> > Here's a copy of the letter I just sent Broderbund while returning Family
> > Treemaker Deluxe II:
>
> [...]
>
> Ray,
>
> Sorry to hear of the troubles you've had with FTM. I've been avoiding
> Broderbund products because of their lack of attention to the Mac version
> of Print Shop Deluxe, and it looks like my decision was wise!
>
> You may want to check out Reunion from Leister Productions. There was a
> news item recently that they've gone Mac-only, so I'd expect it to be a
> pretty good product.
>
> http://www.LeisterPro.com/
>
You are so right about REUNION. So many gen programs were written for DOS
or Win and them "translated" for MAC. Reunion was written by a Mac expert
and a genealogist, Frank Leister. It has been the best Mac gen program
for me.
Bob Bowers
--
Bob Bowers
Lexington, MA, USA
bob...@ma.ultranet.com
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X-Message: #23
Date: 16 Sep 97 13:38:03 GMT
From: Michael P Mina <MIN...@Bigpond.com>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341e8...@139.134.5.33>
Subject: Re: Robidoux genealogy
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mrob...@cfl.forestry.ca writes: > I am presently working on the Robidoux family tree and I am interested in
> obtaining genealogy freeware. Does anyone have a couple of suggestions for
> me? Since I am just starting out, I am looking for something fairly easy
> to use. All my information is on paper and it is becoming overwhelming.
> Thanks.
> (Mrs) Meridel Robidoux Mercier
>
> -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
Forget about freeware. Give Family Tree Maker a go. You won't be disappointed.
You can get a trial version at www.familytreemaker.com.
Regards .... Michael P Mina
(min...@bigpond.com.au)
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X-Message: #24
Date: 16 Sep 1997 13:10:34 GMT
From: let...@aol.com (LETHAR)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970916131...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Cemetery,Dover,NJ
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Does anyone know where I can find a listing of inscriptions for Locust
Hill Cemetery, Dover, Morris County, NJ? I'm looking for 1940 and prior.
Searching in NJ: King, Corwin, Drake, Dickerson, Garlick, Waer/Weir,
Chamberlain, Byram, Caskey, Hilts, Wolfe, Vail, etc.
OH: Jenkinson, Vail, Corwin
SC: Snipes, Biggs, Coward, Coleman, Flowers, Marlow, Ward, etc.
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X-Message: #25
Date: 16 Sep 1997 13:38:03 GMT
From: save...@aol.com (Save Grave)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970916133...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Save Texas Cemeteries 4th Quarter Mtg
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SAVE TEXAS CEMETERIES, INC. presents
HOW TO PRESERVE A CEMETERY!*
Saturday, 10 October 1997 from 10am to 4pm in the
GOV. BILL DANIEL AUDITORIUM of the
VARA MARTIN DANIEL PERFORMING ARTS CENTER (VMDPAC)
on the campus of HILL COLLEGE** in Hillsboro, Texas.
This meeting is open to the public*** and is hosted by the
Hillsboro Cemetery Association, Inc. and Hill College.
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PROGRAM
9am REGISTRATION IN THE LOBBY
Coffee & juice served in the Drama Room
10am YOUR LEGAL RIGHTS REGARDING CEMETERIES UNDER TEXAS LAW
Charles Buenger, Attorney-At-Law
Buenger & Associates, Waco
11am LOCATING UNMARKED GRAVES AND PLATTING A CEMETERY
Brooks B. Ellwood, Ph.D., Geoarcheologist
University of Texas at Arlington
Noon BUFFET LUNCH IN THE DRAMA ROOM****
Reservation required by 10 October 1997
1pm RESTORATION AND PRESERVATION OF SCULPTURE AND TOMBSTONES
John Dennis, Sculptor, Conservationist
Dallas Museum of Art
2pm HOW TO OBTAIN A HISTORICAL MARKER and
HOW TO TURN A CEMETERY INTO A MEMORIAL PARK
Gerron S. Hite, R.A., Cemetery Preservationist
Texas Historical Commission, Austin
3pm THE TEXAS STATE CEMETERY: A SLIDE PRESENTATION
Gerron S. Hite
4pm HAVE A SAFE TRIP HOME!
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* For any additional information, please call
CLEO DAVIS (254) 582-3603
** HILL COLLEGE is east of Interstate 35.
Take State Highway 22 east (toward Corsicana),
then turn left onto Lamar Drive (the first road north).
The first street to the right (east) will take you to VMDPAC
(the building with the water fountain in front of it).
*** While the meeting is free and open to the public,
the catered noon lunch requires prepayment.
See instructions below.
**** Lunch must be ordered in advance, prior to October 10, 1997
(which is the Friday of the week before this event occurs).
Please send a check payable to HCA SEMINAR
in the amount of $10 per person to
PO BOX 924
HILLSBORO TX 76645-0924
Use this form for ordering your lunch(es):
Name -------------------------- Joanne Anybody
Address ----------------------- 1234 Anywhere Ave
Anywhere TX <zip>
Telephone # ------------------- (PPP) NNN-BBBB
# of people attending --------- XX
# of people attending times
$10 per person equals total --- <XX times $10>
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Michael Emery
Information Systems Coordinator
Save Texas Cemeteries, Inc.
http://members.aol.com/savegrave
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X-Message: #26
Date: 16 Sep 1997 14:03:15 GMT
From: llde...@aol.com (LL DeMerle)
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19970916140...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: Re: "Dode" = Dorothy????
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Well. I'll be darned if *I* see a pattern.
:)
L
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X-Message: #27
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 12:11:07 -0700
From: The Gonya Family <nklp...@bright.net>
To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-30.rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <341D88...@bright.net>
Subject: Cummings family
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Looking for the Cummings family in or around Franklin Co., Pa. Known
relative is Peter Cummings who married Barbara Shatzer.
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