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Charani  
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 More options Feb 9 2006, 3:57 pm
Newsgroups: alt.genealogy
From: Charani <m...@privacy.net>
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 20:57:08 +0000
Local: Thurs, Feb 9 2006 3:57 pm
Subject: Mrs A J BRYANT
I know how you guys like a challenge and the COLLINGRIDGEs are nothing
if not a challenge!! <G>

Can anyone find Mrs A J BRYANT and her husband, whose name is unknown?

Mrs A J BRYANT appears on a land deed relating to 160 acres that Mary
E COLLINGRIDGE purchased in 1891.  Mary E died in 1893, 10 days before
her mother, Mary A, and it would seem the Mary E willed the land to
her brother, Edwin; sister, Sophia MERCER, (late WATSON, nee
COLLINGRIDGE), and Mrs A J BRYANT.

I've now realised that Mrs BRYANT is Mary E's sister (I think).

On the 1850 census there is a Josephine WATSON, b 1849 in Kentucky,
and apparently the dau of Sophia WATSON and her husband, John.

On the 1860, Josephine has disappeared and Abba J COLLINGRIDGE has
appeared, b 1849, Kentucky, and apparently the dau of Joseph and Mary
A COLLINGRIDGE

On the 1870  Abba J has become Abby J, still shown as b 1849,
Kentucky.

The next mention of her is in the deed relating to Mary E's land in
1901 and in connection with the estates of the two Marys
(http://main.co.el-dorado.ca.us/CGI/WWB012/WWM501/R).

The closest I can find is this entry in the 1880:

Frederick BRYANT         Self    M       Male    W       37      MA      Deputy
Sheriff          MA      MA
Agnes BRYANT     Wife    M       Female          W       30      KY      Keeping House          
ENG      ENG
  BRYANT         Other           S       Female          W       1M      CA              MA      KY

Source Information:
        Census Place    Alameda, Alameda, California
        Family History Library Film     1254062
        NA Film Number          T9-0062
        Page Number     640B

Age is right, parents' birth place is right, census location is right
but if this is Abby she's had a name change again!!  Given that
Joseph, Abby's father, was a Justice of the Peace for a time, it
wouldn't be too surprising to find Abby married to a Deputy Sheriff.

Can anyone pinpoint Abby and her husband, or do you think Agnes is
Abby??
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Huntersglenn  
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 More options Feb 9 2006, 4:09 pm
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From: Huntersglenn <huntersgl...@cox.net>
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:09:32 -0500
Local: Thurs, Feb 9 2006 4:09 pm
Subject: Re: Mrs A J BRYANT
I would think that it would be easy for an enumerator to mishear either
Aggie or Abby and write the other name (and with mishearing Abby as
Aggie, to write what he felt was the 'real name').

Looks like it's time for another death certificate/information hunt
(with fingers crossed that Mrs. A. J. Bryant's maiden name is listed) <g>.

Cathy


 
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Charani  
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 More options Feb 9 2006, 5:01 pm
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From: Charani <m...@privacy.net>
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 22:01:55 +0000
Local: Thurs, Feb 9 2006 5:01 pm
Subject: Re: Mrs A J BRYANT

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:09:32 -0500, Huntersglenn wrote:
> I would think that it would be easy for an enumerator to mishear either
> Aggie or Abby and write the other name (and with mishearing Abby as
> Aggie, to write what he felt was the 'real name').

Thanks for that.  I was forgetting that Agnes is often abbreviated to
Aggie.  I don't imagine that Abby was that common a name but
Aggie/Agnes was so a presumption was made.

> Looks like it's time for another death certificate/information hunt
> (with fingers crossed that Mrs. A. J. Bryant's maiden name is listed) <g>.

Now come one <G>  This is probably a Collingridge and since when did
they do what they were supposed to and make life easy?? <ggg>

Seriously, I've no idea when she died, nor when she married. With her
having a 1 month old baby at the time of the 1880 census and
apparently no older children, it suggests she probably hadn't long
been married.
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 More options Feb 9 2006, 6:39 pm
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From: ecunningham <ecunning...@att.net>
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:39:05 -0500
Local: Thurs, Feb 9 2006 6:39 pm
Subject: Re: Mrs A J BRYANT

Charani wrote:
> I know how you guys like a challenge and the COLLINGRIDGEs are nothing
> if not a challenge!! <G>

Cunningham raises pointed stick, stabs toward computer screen and
thinks better of it. Drinks large brandy and decides to give "C"
something to think about.

Go here: http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi and simply put
in Collingridge in maiden name. Any sex and click search. Or have you
done this already? If not, have fun playing with more names and
places. <VBEG>
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 More options Feb 9 2006, 8:53 pm
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From: Huntersglenn <huntersgl...@cox.net>
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:53:41 -0500
Local: Thurs, Feb 9 2006 8:53 pm
Subject: Re: Mrs A J BRYANT
I've got them in the 1900 census, with yet another name for her --
Josephine (so at least we know what the J was for <vbg>):

1900 Federal Census, California, San Francisco County, San Franciso
Bryant, Fred., Head, July 1842, 57, married 23 years, born MA, parents
born MA (cannot make out his occupation)
Josephine, Wife, July 1849, 50, had one child, one still living, born
KY, parents born England
Effie, daughter, May 1881, 19, single, born CA, father born MA, mother
born KY, at school
(the daughter's birth year is off, since she was shown as being an
infant in the 1880 census)

  Year: 1900; Census Place: San Francisco, San Francisco, California;
Roll: T623 102; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 76.

In 1910, the family has moved to Marin County, and the daughter is married:
1910 Federal Census, California, Marin County, Sausalito
Bryant, Frederic, Head, 67, married 33 years, born MA, parents born MA,
Rater, Underwriters
Josephine, wife, 60, had 2 children, 1 still alive, born KY, parents
born ENG
Smith, Gideon H., son-in-law, 35, married 2 years, born CA, father born
NY, mother born ENG, surgeon, dentistry
Smith, Ethel F., daughter, 29, born CA, father born MA, mother born KY
Mueller, Albert, lodger, 51, Single, born NY, parents born GER, no
occupation
Year: 1910; Census Place: Sausalito Twp, Marin, California; Series:
T624; Roll: 88; Page: 276A; Enumeration District: 52; Part: 1; Line: 22.

In 1920, Josephine is a widow and living with her daughter and
son-in-law, and is Marin County:

1920 Federal Census, California, Marin County, Sausalito

Smith, Gideon H., Head, 44, born CA, father born NY, mother born Eng,
dentist
Ethel B., wife, 39, born CA, father born MA, mother born KY
Elliott B., daughter, 9, born CA, parents born CA
Bryant, Josephine, mother-in-law, 70, widow, born KY, parents born ENG
They are living on San Carlos Avenue
Year: 1920; Census Place: Sausalito, Marin, California; Roll: T625_120;
Page: 8B; Enumeration District: 104; Image: 1113.

1930 Federal Census, California, Marin County, Sausalito
Smith, Gideon H., Head, 54, first married at age 32, born CA, father
born NY, mother born ENG, doctor, dentistry
Ethel B., wife, 49, first married at 27, born VA, father born MA, mother
born KY
Elliott B., daughter, 19, born CA, parents born CA
The family is still living on San Carlos Avenue.  There's no sign of
Josephine Bryant living near them.
Year: 1930; Census Place: Sausalito, Marin, California; Roll: 177; Page:
4B; Enumeration District: 36; Image: 247.0.

Cathy


 
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Charani  
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 More options Feb 10 2006, 10:11 am
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From: Charani <m...@privacy.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:11:27 +0000
Local: Fri, Feb 10 2006 10:11 am
Subject: Re: Mrs A J BRYANT

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:39:05 -0500, ecunningham wrote:
> Cunningham raises pointed stick, stabs toward computer screen

Noooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

 > and thinks better of it.

Phew!!!  Thank goodness for that!!  I have a TFT monitor and it
doesn't take kindly to being jabbed with a finger, let alone a pointy
thing.  All the gel would run out!! <BG>

> Drinks large brandy and decides to give "C" something to think about.

Can I have a brandy as well pls, with plenty of ginger wine, while I'm
thinking about it.

> Go here: http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi and simply put
> in Collingridge in maiden name. Any sex and click search. Or have you
> done this already? If not, have fun playing with more names and
> places. <VBEG>

No, I hadn't but I have now :))  Thank you.

Lawrence Edwin Shepard, is (I think) a grandson or great grandson
Joseph who was the father of Abby Josephine BRYANT.  Shouldn't be too
hard to find his parents, although I notice no father's surname is
listed.

Marcus Collingridge BULLIVANT is a new one on me.  

You haven't done it again and found another Albert, have you?? <ggg>

<<<<  off to have a play with the site :))

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 More options Feb 10 2006, 10:32 am
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From: Charani <m...@privacy.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:32:11 +0000
Local: Fri, Feb 10 2006 10:32 am
Subject: Re: Mrs A J BRYANT

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:53:41 -0500, Huntersglenn wrote:
> I've got them in the 1900 census, with yet another name for her --
> Josephine (so at least we know what the J was for <vbg>):

It's pretty certain that the Josephine in the 1850 became Abba J, then
Abby J, then Agnes :))  I wonder  if she took lessons off Albert? ;))

> 1900 Federal Census, California, San Francisco County, San Franciso
> Bryant, Fred., Head, July 1842, 57, married 23 years, born MA, parents
> born MA (cannot make out his occupation)
> Josephine, Wife, July 1849, 50, had one child, one still living, born
> KY, parents born England
> Effie, daughter, May 1881, 19, single, born CA, father born MA, mother
> born KY, at school
> (the daughter's birth year is off, since she was shown as being an
> infant in the 1880 census)

>   Year: 1900; Census Place: San Francisco, San Francisco, California;
> Roll: T623 102; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 76.

Fred was a Deputy Sheriff, so he's had a change of occupation. Ethel's
now become Effie.  Could the date of the two censuses be the reason
for the birth being adrift?  Or could this be the second child
mentioned in the 1910 census, the one born 1880 having died?

Magic!!  Thank you very much for that. :))

That'll keep me amused for the weekend trying to find out all the
whens and wheres :))

I used to know someone in Marin County.  I wish I'd taken the
opportunity of a trip to Sausalito as well but I didn't know about the
San Francisco Collingridges when I was there in 1989.  I wish I had.
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