hey....call me stupid...some guy already did earlier today. i don't mind so much. people have been calling me stupid for so long already. matter of fact, i can't even remember the first time.
but i do remember the first person to ever tell me about rainbow. her name is ocean. she has blood out in virginia beach, and if anybody knows her lemme know at morestupidthan...@hotmail.com....she's out there somewheres...
but i've been doing a little more reading. websurfing actually....and i've been finding some interesting things. i've seen hundreds of kids, and i know there's thousands more. there's rainbows been going to gatherings since before there kids were in college, kids having kids at gathering who were had there in teh first place. there's kids hitchhiking to gatherings conceived there many years ago. so there's a lot of rainbow.
and one thing i keep reading over & over & over again...is how everything is so unorganized.....disorganized, sloppy, intentionally or not...i don't know...and the thing i keep asking myself is why?
first off, for a family so all over the place like it is, there seems to me to be a hell alot of organization....when i was sleeping under the bridge in boulder colorado kids were zooming in out from all over the place and all you had to do to get the latest info was acks somebody, dig...
day after all the fuss fuss at ocala some kids rolled in hallutin and hollerin bout what did or didn't go wrong, and the same thing in arizona....regional gatherings there on the up & up...word gets around, and i didn't even check my email then....dig...
now i don't know what happened down in ocala and i don't know what happened down in arizona....i know what i've heard, but i wasn't there so i can't really say one way or the other....but i'm wondering, especially from some of the things i've been reading, and some of the things i've been told, and especially the things i see every day, i'm wondering
i'm wondering if these things didn't happen because somebody started yelling at the rangers first thing they walked up and somebody was rude from the start...i'm saying there may or may not have been food all over the place and there may or may not have been any bears trying to eat it...i don't know....
but i've heard nothing but bad things about the authority figures involved, and i usually do...unless i'm experiencing it first hand...and then, everything is usually pretty chill.....
and i have had my share of encounters with police folk in which they come off rude to me from the start, especially me looking full bearded like a taliban what not unafraid of hair like i am...(in the words of benji out in boulder, "i am not the taliban, i am a rasta!)..one thing urks me is police folk coming off rude to me from the start, telling me it's g.d. illegal to sleep in public...that's one things got to change....but it ain't unless somebody gets organized....
and if there's one thing i've noticed about alot of the rainbow is there's one heck of a big group of homeless kids, people living outside...nothing wrong with it except that in my own country it's illegal to sleep outside....get that...illegal to do the one thing we all got to do.
so i'm noticing all these things and wondering how come nobody's getting organized to change some of these things we all know should be changed. from what everybody keeps telling me, everyone keeps saying how much organization is involved in keeping rainbows away, i don't see it...but everybody keeps telling me it's there...and maybe it is....there probably are a few knuckleheads who aren't understanding enough...especially knuckleheads with guns, which is scary on its own
maybe we're just too lazy to stop complaining about the way things are to actually get up and do anything about it...i'm saying, all i'm trying to do is be a law abiding citizen and smoke blundts friday night in the park with my homies, dig...but i'm willing to do something about it so i can.
i see a lot of paranoia about what our government is or isn't doing to get in the way of the rainbow...but one thing i keep remembering from social studies class is, that government over there.....that's my government...and i plan on keeping it that way... and if there's somebody in it who doesn't want me involved in my government, well....that dudes just going to have to step aside and give me what's mine.
> government...and i plan on keeping it that way... and if there's > somebody in it who doesn't want me involved in my government, > well....that dudes just going to have to step aside and give me what's > mine.
It is "Extremely Stupid" to think Rainbow is organized. I mean it's stoners and anarchists, misfits and ancient hippies come on what do you think?
In my experience many Rainbows consciously oppose organization. They will sabotage best efforts and in the name of freedom do whatever the fuck they like. Oy!
As far as cleanup goes--- no shit Rainbow does it right and all the way. Even the FS knows our excellent record for cleanup.
Organization, we don need no stinkin organization!
> It is "Extremely Stupid" to think Rainbow is organized. I mean it's stoners > and anarchists, misfits and ancient hippies come on what do you think?
I think you're confusing organization with hierarchy. Hierarchy (leaders) we (my mouse and me) aint got, but we're (my mouse and me) aces with linear organizing (cooperation). Nature of the animal, I think.
> >It is "Extremely Stupid" to think Rainbow is organized. I mean it's stoners > and anarchists, misfits and ancient hippies come on what do you think?
> Wow! Demographics! Cool! m the r
Which one are you, Miranda? I choose 'ancient hippie' for me. :)
> > It is "Extremely Stupid" to think Rainbow is organized. I mean it's > stoners > > and anarchists, misfits and ancient hippies come on what do you think?
> I think you're confusing organization with hierarchy. Hierarchy (leaders) > we (my mouse and me) aint got, but we're (my mouse and me) aces with linear > organizing (cooperation). Nature of the animal, I think.
morestupidthan...@hotmail.com (Extremely Stupid) wrote: > and one thing i keep reading over & over & over again...is how > everything is so unorganized.....disorganized, sloppy, intentionally > or not...i don't know...and the thing i keep asking myself is why?
> first off, for a family so all over the place like it is, there seems > to me to be a hell alot of organization....when i was sleeping under > the bridge in boulder colorado kids were zooming in out from all over > the place and all you had to do to get the latest info was acks > somebody, dig...
In the Rainbow Family there is no formal organization, no hierarchical list of managers and submanagers, no constitution and bylaws, no president, secretary, and treasurer. There is no membership roll and formal acceptance procedure. There are no written down rules that people get punished for transgressing.
But things do get organized, plans are devised and people taking roles in executing those plans. There are people who have knowledge and experience whom others look to for guidance and teaching, and these people make requests of others and have them follow. There are people who are good at enforcing commonly accepted practices with strong voices. Nothing would get done if all this didn't happen.
There is leadership and organization, but it occurs mostly spontaneously and by the mostly unspoken agreement of all who take part in a collective task. It is dynamic instead of static. There are no terms of office, the leaders are elected every hour. If they lose the confidence of those who are following them, they are removed from their position by the followers turning to other leaders.
It is a place where talent emerges in ways it can't in Babylon, and it is also a place where incompetence is shown dramatically. You can't bullshit people for very long. When you do earn the respect of others, it is a truly deserved and solid one.
Just be sure you don't call anybody a "leader" around here, "ogre" is more popular, and often worn with pride.
>From: "Thunder" thunder52000nos...@hotmail.com >Date: 6/8/02 7:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time >Message-id: <TtoM8.5584$bM5.423164...@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>
>"Miranda Raven" <mirandara...@aol.com> wrote in message >news:20020608043436.19917.00000482@mb-fw.aol.com... >> >It is "Extremely Stupid" to think Rainbow is organized. I mean >it's stoners >> and anarchists, misfits and ancient hippies come on what do you >think?
>> Wow! Demographics! Cool! m the r
>Which one are you, Miranda? I choose 'ancient hippie' for me. :)
if there is none of all that... how can there be a "long-standing family concensus" that's probably older than me? times have changed... that's for sure. we've got new blood/energy out there that want to put in thier input. some of our family actually do nothing other than pray for peace in the woods. instead of calling out terrible names... maybe we could all talk as a family? and include those that have never logged in here into an open discussion. just a thought? much lovin' always...... belle
BULL wrote: > It is "Extremely Stupid" to think Rainbow is organized. I mean it's stoners > and anarchists, misfits and ancient hippies come on what do you think?
Don't forget the loose cannons, delusional visionaries, wishful thinkers, wounded warrriors, and generic bliss bunnies. Not to mention psych nurses and crisis counselors who are totally bananas.
"Hey, Bub, lemme talk to your supervisor! I wanna know who's to blame here!"
Come to think of it, the whole thing is impossible. Free assembly of individuals, no one in charge? You gotta be kidding me. It can't possibly work. Whose stupid idea was this, anyway? Isn't there at least a cruise director or something? I demand to see the by-laws immediately!
>> It is "Extremely Stupid" to think Rainbow is organized. I mean it's stoners >> and anarchists, misfits and ancient hippies come on what do you think?
>Don't forget the loose cannons, delusional visionaries, wishful thinkers, >wounded warrriors, and generic bliss bunnies. Not to mention psych nurses >and >crisis counselors who are totally bananas.
>"Hey, Bub, lemme talk to your supervisor! I wanna know who's to blame here!"
>Come to think of it, the whole thing is impossible. Free assembly of >individuals, no one in charge? You gotta be kidding me. It can't possibly >work. Whose stupid idea was this, anyway? Isn't there at least a cruise >director or something? I demand to see the by-laws immediately!
Oh shit! That gives me a great new idea! I'll just tell "them" for now on that I'm too old to read the fine print! Thanks, sister! As always you generate ideas and humor! love, m the r generic bliss!!!! there'll be none of that! This is ashcroft's america!
> > It is "Extremely Stupid" to think Rainbow is organized.
No Bull... Ain't know organization hee...
"Ignore All Rumors of Organization!"
> > I mean it's stoners
i'm as afraid of stones as i am sticks they break bones ya know
> > and anarchists, misfits and ancient hippies come on what do you think?
not capable of thinking and never was a hippie although my teachers always said i didn't fit the pattern.. is that the same as misfit? how bout just lil'l ole ancient closet anarchist.)
Carla <ca...@efn.org> wrote: > Don't forget the loose cannons,
bang, bang
> delusional visionaries,
i see sed the blind woman to the deaf one(whoever is listening.)
> wishful thinkers,
i wish i may i wish i might have all the phun i can handle tonight;^)
> wounded warrriors,
ahhhh... poor things bringem on and we'll patchem up
> and generic bliss bunnies.
hey now watch it!! who ya callin generic!
ya got the real deal here dontcha know;^)
> Not to mention psych nurses
alright now i only confess to brief stints and deny all rumors of being a psych nurse closer to a sub like a substitute teacher steps in when the class runs of the regular
....but i can refer you to a couple of real lunies and one is a duzy of a luci:)
> and crisis counselors who are totally bananas.
gotcha and am sendin ya to the ovenz to get baked then we'll serve ya up at bliss...
snicker, giggle... lol hohohehe... as Da Originale Ta Daaaaaa ...... <G> "generic baked banana bliss bunny!!" <G>
> "Hey, Bub, lemme talk to your supervisor! I wanna know who's to blame here!"
who? good question... how bout bart? nah... well don't look at me, i didn't do it... where's the Ogre
> Come to think of it, the whole thing is impossible. Free assembly of > individuals, no one in charge? You gotta be kidding me. It can't possibly > work. Whose stupid idea was this, anyway? Isn't there at least a cruise > director or something? I demand to see the by-laws immediately!
couldn't read em if i could see em... hmpf... guess i'll go stir somethin else up.... dread lock stew... or some kind of brew.. let's see whatz in the tea box
> > It is "Extremely Stupid" to think Rainbow is organized. I mean it's stoners > > and anarchists, misfits and ancient hippies come on what do you think?
> Don't forget the loose cannons, delusional visionaries, wishful thinkers, > wounded warrriors, and generic bliss bunnies. Not to mention psych nurses and > crisis counselors who are totally bananas.
> "Hey, Bub, lemme talk to your supervisor! I wanna know who's to blame here!"
> Come to think of it, the whole thing is impossible. Free assembly of > individuals, no one in charge? You gotta be kidding me. It can't possibly > work. Whose stupid idea was this, anyway? Isn't there at least a cruise > director or something? I demand to see the by-laws immediately!
