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From: "rainbowcrystalkitc...@yahoo.com" <rainbowcrystalkitc...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 14:13:36 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, May 29 2011 5:13 pm
Subject: food not bombs story
FOOD NOT BOMBS WILL CONTINUE TO SHARE FOOD AND IDEAS

On May 25, 2011 Heather Fagan (Orlando Mayor Buddy Dyer's press
secretary ) hinted that police may gather evidence that could be used
to arrest activists later, perhaps at their homes or workplaces away
from the news cameras.
Mark Schlueb, Orlando Sentinel May 25, 2011

Volunteers still face arrest at breakfast, Monday, May 30, 2011 at
Lake Eola Park in Orlando. City claims they may arrest the volunteers
at home or work yet many of those sharing food have no homes or jobs.

In the world's wealthiest country where over 50‭ ‬cents of every tax
dollar goes to fund the military it is possible to make sure no one
ever needs to seek food at a soup kitchen or be forced to live on the
streets‭. ‬This message should be expressed loud‭, ‬often and with as
much passion as possible‭. ‬Food Not Bombs will continue to seek an
end to poverty and war regardless of government efforts to stop them.

Food Not Bombs explains why they plan to continue sharing food and are
not required to have permission from the city. (short video)

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/videobeta/73e039ea-0363-4336-9b46-79b7...

HUMAN NEEDS NOT CORPORATE GREED!
The campaign to end the criminalization of poverty
http://www.foodnotbombs.net/resist.html

Please forward, thanks


 
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From: "rainbowcrystalkitc...@yahoo.com" <rainbowcrystalkitc...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 14:20:27 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, May 29 2011 5:20 pm
Subject: Re: food not bombs story
here are a few  phone numbers for the city or orlando.... we ought to
call the mayors office and express  rage over this policy
lets not forget  the time when the maypors office  in  new orleans
wanted to close down a rainbow kitchen after katrina... his number was
published and he was sooo swapped with  calls he had to relent and
leave the kitchen alone ...we can do the same with   orlando and food
not bombs ...lets all jhave a little fgun and swamp mayor whats his
nose with  complaints and tell him to leave food not bombs alone

Mayor Buddy Dyer 407.246.2221
Chief of Staff Frank Billingsley 407.246.2221
Executive Assistant to the Mayor Kathy Scanlon 407.246.2221
Administrative Specialist Sharon Wilson 407.246.2199
Hispanic Affairs Advisor  Alicia Ramirez 407.254.4652
Public Affairs Director Carson Chandler 407.246.2822
Press Secretary Heather Fagan 407.246.3423
Public Information Officer Cassandra Lafser 407.246.2182
City Clerk Alana Brenner 407.246.2251
Director of Communications & Neighborhood Relations Michele Brennan
407.246.3104
Director of Community Affairs Marcia H. Goodwin 407.246.2500
Director of Constituent Services Reggie McGill 407.246.2221
Director of Intergovernmental Relations Kathleen Russell 407.246.3094
City Commissioner, District 1 Phil Diamond 407.246.2001
City Commissioner, District 2 Tony Ortiz 407.246.2002
City Commissioner, District 3 Robert F. Stuart 407.246.2003
City Commissioner, District 4 Patty Sheehan 407.246.2004
City Commissioner, District 5 Daisy W. Lynum 407.246.2005
City Commissioner, District 6 Samuel B. Ings 407.246.2006

City Attorney Mayanne Downs 407.246.2221
Deputy City Attorney Jody Litchford 407.246.2295

 OFFICE OF THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER

Chief Administrative Officer Byron Brooks 407.246.3091
Deputy Chief Administrative Officer Kevin Edmonds 407.246.4127
Deputy Chief Administrative Officer Deborah D. Girard 407.246.2237

 OFFICE OF THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER

Chief Financial Officer Rebecca W. Sutton 407.246.2341
Deputy Chief Financial Officer Ray Elwell 407.246.2341

On May 29, 2:13 pm, "rainbowcrystalkitc...@yahoo.com"


 
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 More options May 30 2011, 7:45 am
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From: Sanity <sanity-cla...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 04:45:51 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 30 2011 7:45 am
Subject: Re: food not bombs story
On May 29, 2:13 pm, "rainbowcrystalkitc...@yahoo.com"

<rainbowcrystalkitc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> FOOD NOT BOMBS WILL CONTINUE TO SHARE FOOD AND IDEAS

> On May 25, 2011 Heather Fagan (Orlando Mayor Buddy Dyer's press
> secretary ) hinted that police may gather evidence that could be used
> to arrest activists later, perhaps at their homes or workplaces away
> from the news cameras.
> Mark Schlueb, Orlando Sentinel May 25, 2011

Hmmm, a "press secretary" wanting to avoid the press...

> Volunteers still face arrest at breakfast, Monday, May 30, 2011 at
> Lake Eola Park in Orlando. City claims they may arrest the volunteers
> at home or work yet many of those sharing food have no homes or jobs.

> In the world's wealthiest country where over 50‭ ‬cents of every tax
> dollar goes to fund the military

A military engaged in illegal wars of oppression, based on fraudulent
pretexts, to steal natural resourses from other countries!

> it is possible to make sure no one
> ever needs to seek food at a soup kitchen or be forced to live on the
> streets‭.

As a program of private charity, yes; but not IMO as a program managed
by a government.  There will always be poor people wanting handouts
instead of hands-up.  At rainbow gatherings they are known as
drainbows, but the apt analogy is Aesop's fable of 'the ant and the
grasshopper' and ancient.

> ‬This message should be expressed loud‭, ‬often and with as
> much passion as possible‭. ‬Food Not Bombs will continue to seek an
> end to poverty and war regardless of government efforts to stop them.

> Food Not Bombs explains why they plan to continue sharing food and are
> not required to have permission from the city. (short video)

> http://www.orlandosentinel.com/videobeta/73e039ea-0363-4336-9b46-79b7...

> HUMAN NEEDS NOT CORPORATE GREED!
> The campaign to end the criminalization of poverty

Criminalizing poverty is not merely wrong, it is another way of saying
economic slavery exists.  Voting has not stopped it and will not as
long as the menu of candidates is rigged and the plutocrats count the
ballots, or, as in the Case of Bush v. Gore, the winner is chosen by
an unelected oligarchy.

> http://www.foodnotbombs.net/resist.html

> Please forward, thanks

Nice post, thanks Gary.

 
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Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 13:06:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: food not bombs story
On May 29, 5:20 pm, "rainbowcrystalkitc...@yahoo.com"

"........ He says he took particular pleasure in a 2003 demonstration
for Greenpeace in which activists stormed the headquarters of
ExxonMobil in Irving, Tex., to protest its environmental record.
Dressed in tiger outfits, protesters carried banners to the roof of
the company’s offices, while others wearing business suits arrived in
chauffeured Jaguars, forcing frustrated police officers to sort real
executives from faux ones. .. "

FBI's Counterterrorism Operations Scrutinizing Political Activists
Monday 30 May 2011
by: Colin Moynihan and Scott Shane, The New York Times News Service

http://www.truth-out.org/fbis-counterterrorism-operations-scrutinizin...

For at least three years, counterterrorism agents monitored the
comings and goings at Scott Crow's home in Austin, Tex. (Photo: Caleb
Bryant Miller / The New York Times)

AUSTIN, Texas — A fat sheaf of F.B.I. reports meticulously details the
surveillance that counterterrorism agents directed at the one-story
house in East Austin. For at least three years, they traced the
license plates of cars parked out front, recorded the comings and
goings of residents and guests


 
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Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 13:21:21 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: food not bombs story
On May 30, 1:06 pm, whistler <azwhist...@gmail.com> wrote:

Your tax money at work...

 
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From: "rainbowcrystalkitc...@yahoo.com" <rainbowcrystalkitc...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 09:43:16 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: food not bombs story
On May 30, 1:21 pm, Sanity <sanity-cla...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

I just called  dyers office ....its lunch  time so there was no one to
talk wi th ... but I left a voice mail and gave them a piece of my
mind ....sure would be great  of others would do the same

 
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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 04:39:30 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: food not bombs story
On May 31, 11:43 am, "rainbowcrystalkitc...@yahoo.com"

spreading this around a bit.

there was an element of fault on food not bombs in the incident in
california last year where they were being stubborn about inspections
and licensing even though it was being offered for free and staged a
feeding at a market that wasn't entirely appropriate.

is there any of that in this scenario or is this straight up ignorant
facism coming down from the city?

http://www.sociallyuncensored.eu/forums/index.php?threads/1628207/

my first contact with food not bombs was in 1989 at the nuclear test
site in mercury, NV. i met a lot of family there -- felipe, lynn,
freddie, kasha, lover of horses, diamond dave, vermin supreme, hoo ha!
i even met zeus at that shindig!

another anarchist hippie brain fart, food not bombs is now global and
kick out a lot of food to a lot of hungry people. in austin, they
bring fresh fruits and vegetables, raw and cooked, out to woolridge
park, between the library and courts.

strictly vegan, the contrast between them and mainstream charity food
services is stark and some municipalities have given them a tough row
to hoe. orlando is one of them and there have been arrests.

like arresting people for dancing at the jefferson memorial, how much
fascism are americans willing to support before they throw down on the
cops?

we queue up like good sheeple in public buildings to be searched and
we cheer on our government as it flings our military into harms way in
country after country to secure the mineral rights, control of the
dope and wage slave populations for the corporate oligarchs.


 
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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 05:06:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Pot not Narks story
On May 29, 5:13 pm, "rainbowcrystalkitc...@yahoo.com"


 
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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 07:04:18 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Pot not Narks story
On Jun 2, 7:06 am, te Freakquency <Veggy...@yahoo.com> wrote:

three arrested in orlando
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-homeless-feedi...

 
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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 08:08:40 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: food not bombs story
On Jun 2, 4:39 am, Whistle Blower <ctomeez0...@gmail.com> wrote:

I’m all for free health related inspections, but there is no such
thing as a “free license.”  Under license people are not “free,” they
are “regulated entities.”

Inspecting a soup kitchen to assure the public established food safety
practices and procedures are being abided by, and correcting errors,
is squarely within the health and safety paradigm of lawful police
power IMO.  Health inspectors DO have that lawful onus!  Feeding
people [like peaceable assembly] is a ‘Common Law’ right, not an
activity the Gummint may lawfully prohibit.  Restaurants are
commercial enterprises licensed under ‘Civil Law’ for tax purposes…

As to appropriateness: a feeding at a market or in competition with
restaurants sounds real confrontational to me; kinda like driving
around with “please pull me over and fuck with me” stickers all over
one’s vehicle and expecting the cops not to pull you over and fuck
with you.


 
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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 09:51:55 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Pot not old hazzbinz story
On Jun 2, 11:08 am, Sanity <sanity-cla...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


 
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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:55:35 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: food not bombs story
On Jun 2, 10:08 am, Sanity <sanity-cla...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

i forget the details, but the authorities were offering to waive any
fees needed to bring the california kitchen into compliance and they
stubbornly held the anarchistic line and refused to allow it.  then
the market they chose to feed at was not one that homeless and hungry
people normally frequented.

this situation in orlando looks like nothing but bad law.  hopefully
they'll have decent lawyers who will take the law to the wall and get
it overturned.


 
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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 17:01:47 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: food not bombs story
On Jun 2, 2:55 pm, Whistle Blower <ctomeez0...@gmail.com> wrote:

Well that's stupid...  I'm all for health and safety and sheriffs are
usually pretty cool [they are Peace officers mostly, not law officers]
but not allowing a health inspection IS cause for arrest!  Oh well:
"Can't fix stupid."

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Subject: Re: food not bombs story
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Subject: Re: food not bombs story
On Jun 2, 9:38 pm, sam <can...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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Subject: Re: food not bombs story
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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:12:38 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: food not bombs story
dammit...forgot to trim the past.

sorry...


 
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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:20:38 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: food not bombs story
On Jun 2, 11:12 pm, sam <can...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:32:43 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: food not bombs story

LOL, actually i figured you were going to be calling me out for not
including gatherings with the need (i still feel) for inspections
where the law applies...that's all.

but yeah, i'm pretty strange too...but at least i trim my headers
(when thinking about it)...hehehe


 
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Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 05:19:46 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: food not bombs story
On Jun 2, 8:38 pm, sam <can...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[chomped for brevity]

> ya can't serve food to the public without a health permit...ya can't
> get a heath permit without getting inspected.  it was enacted because
> like with every other aspect of a free society there are always a few
> who will abuse it.  it was enacted because people were getting sick
> awith many sick and/or dying from shoddy food prep practices and no
> screening of servers and cooks (think typhoid mary here) and since
> getting put onto the federal law books far fewer have died from food
> poisoning and other food-borne ailments.

Yep, like I said: "health and safety."  Typhoid Mary was THE prime
example.  OTOH government in a free society being an 'administrative
special trust'; when big parts of that trust are openly betrayed
[aristocrats getting away with crimes against humanity etc.] the
fabric unravels and anarchists seek to throw the baby [health and
safety] out with the bath-water to take power themselves.  There
really are "public servants" in our government who have earned my
trust and respect!  The thing is, they are all lower echelon [health
inspectors, honest cops {yes, there are a few}, fire marshals,
building inspectors {some of them are not for sale}, sheriffs and
clerks etc.]...

For my money: permit shmermit.  At law “permit” and “license” are
absolute synonyms, and feeding the hungry is a right like peaceable
assembly that cannot be reduced to a privilege under license.  I see
the anarchist point of view that they have the right to serve food as
valid; but at the same time I also see their refusal to abide by
established health standards *administered by trained professionals
paid for by the community they are trying to serve* [in the form of
guidance and correction of possible errors] as stupid!


 
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Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 05:23:38 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jun 3 2011 8:23 am
Subject: Re: food not bombs story
On Jun 2, 9:25 pm, Old Tom <rascal...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Jun 2, 9:38 pm, sam <can...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> -.-

> > ya can't serve food to the public without a health permit...ya can't
> > get a heath permit without getting inspected.  it was enacted because
> > like with every other aspect of a free society there are always a few
> > who will abuse it.  it was enacted because people were getting sick
> > awith many sick and/or dying from shoddy food prep practices and no
> > screening of servers and cooks (think typhoid mary here) and since
> > getting put onto the federal law books far fewer have died from food
> > poisoning and other food-borne ailments.

> Is food served to the public at the gathering?

Do you eat at just any kitchen?  Remember the Shigella outbreak at the
NC gathering in 87?

 
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Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:07:45 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: food not bombs story

> i'm sure this is going to raise everybody's hackles, but i feel like
> the family's stubbornness regarding an actual official entity and
> signing permits is akin to cutting off your nose to spite your face,
> just like the food not bombs guys who refused to work with the health
> department.

oh my lord...it truly is the end of the world when we agree on
something...

time to rethink my stand on this issue...hehehe


 
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Discussion subject changed to "pot kitchen story" by te Freakquency
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 More options Jun 3 2011, 11:09 am
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From: te Freakquency <Veggy...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:09:57 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jun 3 2011 11:09 am
Subject: pot kitchen story
On Jun 3, 11:07 am, sam <can...@yahoo.com> wrote:


 
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