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Roland Curit

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Dec 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/5/96
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Has anyone solved puzzle number 8 of Motion Madness?
The game can be downloaded at http://www.infi.net/~rolandc


REC

Terry Frangakis

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Dec 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/6/96
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Roland Curit <rol...@norfolk.infi.net> wrote in article
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> Has anyone solved puzzle number 8 of Motion Madness?

> REC

Yes

I solved it using 35 arrows!

Terry

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somebody

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Roland Curit wrote:
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> Has anyone solved puzzle number 8 of Motion Madness?
> The game can be downloaded at http://www.infi.net/~rolandc
>
> REC

I solved it using 32 arrows!

Joe Galon
JGa...@Admin.nmt.edu

Dwayne Orriso

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Dec 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/6/96
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Roland Curit wrote:
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> Has anyone solved puzzle number 8 of Motion Madness?
> The game can be downloaded at http://www.infi.net/~rolandc
>
> REC


Yes I have done it with 33 arrows.

I have all but the last two puzzles solved. Here are the numbers for my
solutions. Does anyone out there have more optimal solutions to any of
the puzzles?

4, 8, 3, 9, 8,
16, 25, 33, 17, 21,
10, 10, 15, 18, 11,
17, 23, 23, 31, 35,
27, 20, 24, ??, ??
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Matthew Daly

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Dec 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/6/96
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In article <32A867...@isd.csc.com> Dwayne Orriso <dorrison%cals...@isd.csc.com> writes:
>
>I have all but the last two puzzles solved. Here are the numbers for my
>solutions. Does anyone out there have more optimal solutions to any of
>the puzzles?
>
> 4, 8, 3, 9, 8,
>16, 25, 33, 17, 21,
>10, 10, 15, 18, 11,
>17, 23, 23, 31, 35,
>27, 20, 24, ??, ??

I only have 1-7 and 9 done so far, but I did solve 9 with only 13 arrows.

SPOILER

I don't know the best method for putting in the solution, so we'll go
with this. If I say (3,5) E, that means an arrow pointed east that is
three squares to the left and five below the ul corner (which is (0,0)).

#9:

Green arrows:
(2,0) E
(13,0) W
(2,4) N
(8,6) NE

Blue arrows:
(9,4) SW
(8,5) W
(7,6) NW

Red arrows:
(10,0) E
(6,6) N
(3,8) E
(6,8) NW
(6,10) N
(4,7) N

In case I didn't get some of the coordinates right, the blue ball pushes
each of the fire shooters to the top row as the red ball sends the blue
ball to the next fire shooter and finally to an early death in its hole
in step 27. Meanwhile, the green ball has bounced its way up to the
top row where it runs across the top and gives the fire shooters four
twists, so they are facing the jokers. Also, the removal of the blue
hole allows the red ball to bounce out of its original trap and around
a fairly circuitous route to deactivate the loop that the green ball is
in and finally to wrap around one last time to fire off all three fire
shooters. The balls then make it into their holes and the last of the
jokers is destroyed at step 80.

This game is a lot of fun -- I'll definitely take it over Chips
Challenge any day! More more!! (But maybe a set easier than In The
Beginning for the young'uns.)

-Matthew
--
Matthew Daly I don't buy everything I read ... I haven't
da...@ppd.kodak.com even read everything I've bought.

My opinions are not necessarily those of my employer, of course.

Roland Curit

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Dec 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/6/96
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Dwayne Orriso wrote:
>
>
> I have all but the last two puzzles solved. Here are the numbers for my
> solutions. Does anyone out there have more optimal solutions to any of
> the puzzles?
>
> 4, 8, 3, 9, 8,
> 16, 25, 33, 17, 21,
> 10, 10, 15, 18, 11,
> 17, 23, 23, 31, 35,
> 27, 20, 24, ??, ??

Good job Dwayne!!

From the author:

4, 8, 3, 4, 7
23, 26, 14, 10, 8
10, 9, 14, 16, 11
7, 15, 12, 15, 27
19, 34, 23


--
Roland Curit
http://www.infi.net/~rolandc
"Yes, I'm lazy. Give me a one hour job and I'll spend 59 minutes
rigging my computer to do it in one." R. Curit

Igor Berger

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Dec 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/7/96
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Matthew Daly (da...@PPD.Kodak.COM) wrote:
> In article <32A867...@isd.csc.com> Dwayne Orriso <dorrison%cals...@isd.csc.com> writes:
> >
> >I have all but the last two puzzles solved. Here are the numbers for my
> >solutions. Does anyone out there have more optimal solutions to any of
> >the puzzles?
> >
> > 4, 8, 3, 9, 8,
> >16, 25, 33, 17, 21,
> >10, 10, 15, 18, 11,
> >17, 23, 23, 31, 35,
> >27, 20, 24, ??, ??

> I only have 1-7 and 9 done so far, but I did solve 9 with only 13 arrows.

My scores: 4, 8, 3, 7, 7, 16, ??, 26, 10.

For #8, I did get that 26 solution, but there is some weird bug in the
program that sometimes erases the solution, if i try to view a puzzle
I solved earlier. It's really annoying.

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Hareendra Yalamanchili

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Dec 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/7/96
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>I only have 1-7 and 9 done so far, but I did solve 9 with only 13 arrows.

SPOILER

>SPOILER
>

>I don't know the best method for putting in the solution, so we'll go
>with this. If I say (3,5) E, that means an arrow pointed east that is
>three squares to the left and five below the ul corner (which is (0,0)).

>#9:

>In case I didn't get some of the coordinates right, the blue ball pushes


>each of the fire shooters to the top row as the red ball sends the blue
>ball to the next fire shooter and finally to an early death in its hole
>in step 27. Meanwhile, the green ball has bounced its way up to the
>top row where it runs across the top and gives the fire shooters four
>twists, so they are facing the jokers. Also, the removal of the blue
>hole allows the red ball to bounce out of its original trap and around
>a fairly circuitous route to deactivate the loop that the green ball is
>in and finally to wrap around one last time to fire off all three fire
>shooters. The balls then make it into their holes and the last of the
>jokers is destroyed at step 80.

This didn't work quite right, but here is a modified version with just
10 arrows.


Green arrows

(6,0) E
(13,0) W

Blue arrows

(9,4) SW
(8,5) W
(7,6) NW

Red arrows

(10,0) E
(4,2) N
(9,2) SW
(10,4) N
(4,9) N

Purple arrows
none

The blue pushes the arrows up one at a time, controlled by red. Then
blue leaves, breaking red's loop. In the meantime, green rotates the
arrows pushed by green in its loop. Red releases green from its loop
then releases the fireballs as green does the rotations solving the
puzzle in 62 steps.

Hareendra Yalamanchili
hyal...@mit.edu


Hareendra Yalamanchili

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Dec 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/9/96
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>> I have all but the last two puzzles solved. Here are the numbers for my
>> solutions. Does anyone out there have more optimal solutions to any of
>> the puzzles?
>>
>> 4, 8, 3, 9, 8,
>> 16, 25, 33, 17, 21,
>> 10, 10, 15, 18, 11,
>> 17, 23, 23, 31, 35,
>> 27, 20, 24, ??, ??


>From the author:

>4, 8, 3, 4, 7
>23, 26, 14, 10, 8
>10, 9, 14, 16, 11
>7, 15, 12, 15, 27
>19, 34, 23

Here are the scores we achieved:

4, 8, 3, 4, 7

16,25,26,10,8
10,8,14,17,11
7,17,18,19,22
26,32,22,38,77

Hareendra Yalamanchili
hyal...@mit.edu


David Venturini

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Dec 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/9/96
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Hareendra Yalamanchili wrote:
>
.
.
.

> >From the author:
>
> >4, 8, 3, 4, 7
> >23, 26, 14, 10, 8
> >10, 9, 14, 16, 11
> >7, 15, 12, 15, 27
> >19, 34, 23
>
> Here are the scores we achieved:
>
> 4, 8, 3, 4, 7
> 16,25,26,10,8
> 10,8,14,17,11
> 7,17,18,19,22
> 26,32,22,38,77
>
> Hareendra Yalamanchili
> hyal...@mit.edu

I have been working along with Hareendra and here are
the scores I had, they are slightly better.

4, 8, 3, 4, 7

16, 25, 20, 10, 8
10, 8, 14, 17, 11
7, 16, 16, 19, 22
18, 27, 22, 36, 77

Total: 425 arrows used

Also here is a really cool solution to puzzle 14:

It uses 17 arrows which is not minimal but this
solution is really nice.

This is in the same notation used early
the top right corner is 0,0, bottom left is 16,16
and the first number is across the second number is down.

Blue Arrows

0,2 NW
2,5 E
2,11 N
7,15 NW
8,5 NE
9,5 N
9,7 S
9,9 NW
15,2 W

Red Arrows
0,3 N
9,2 W
9,15 NW
13,3 S
16,9 E

Green Arrows
4,14 NE
8,6 N
15,1 SW

If this solution doesn't work please email and I'll recheck my numbers.

Matthew Daly

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Dec 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/9/96
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In article <58b2u0$k...@netnews.upenn.edu> ber...@gradine.cis.upenn.edu (Igor Berger) writes:
>
>For #8, I did get that 26 solution, but there is some weird bug in the
>program that sometimes erases the solution, if i try to view a puzzle
>I solved earlier. It's really annoying.

Best I can tell, it saves your arrows whether or not you tell it to.
So, if you have a working solution, be sure to write it down before
you start retooling it! :-)

Patrick Hamlyn

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Dec 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/10/96
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Dwayne Orriso <dorrison%cals...@isd.csc.com> wrote:

> Does anyone out there have more optimal solutions to any of
>the puzzles?
>

I have 7 arrows each for games 4 and 5, still working on 8 etc.

> 4, 8, 3, 9, 8,
>16, 25, 33, 17, 21,
>10, 10, 15, 18, 11,
>17, 23, 23, 31, 35,
>27, 20, 24, ??, ??

>--
>
>***************************************************
>* Dwayne Orrison *
>* Home Phone: 609-222-4127 *
>* Work Phone: 609-983-4400 ext. 4561 *
>* FAX: 609-988-8410 *
>* Home Email: dorr...@voicenet.com *
>* Work Email: dorr...@jcals.csc.com *
>***************************************************

--
Patrick Hamlyn, Multiprogramming Pty Ltd


Hareendra Yalamanchili

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Dec 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/11/96
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>From the author:
>
>4, 8, 3, 4, 7
>23, 26, 14, 10, 8
>10, 9, 14, 16, 11
>7, 15, 12, 15, 27
>19, 34, 23

Here are scores that we achieved:

4, 8, 3, 4, 6
16,23,12,10,8
10,8,14,14,11
7,15,12,15,22
18,18,22,29,77

Total: 389 arrows.
Has anyone achieved better solutions than these?

Hareendra Yalamanchili

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Dec 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/11/96
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hyal...@mit.edu (Hareendra Yalamanchili) wrote:

Oops. It's a total of 386 arrows.

Hareendra Yalamanchili
hyal...@mit.edu

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