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Mar 26, 2008, 11:43:27 AM3/26/08
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Hitler had been doing phenomenally well in turning his country around
economically ever since he came to power. He did this by breaking
with the Jewish international bankers, and trading by barter, thus
bartering the surplus of goods Germany had, with the surplus of goods
Germany needed that another country had, without debts being incurred
on either side.

He, like Abraham Lincoln before him, simply issued what money was
needed on the authority of the German Government, which was backed by
the productivity of the German labour force, and not the empty
promises of Jewish international bankers, who in a country without
debt, could not function.

As a result of this policy, Germany was able to regenerate the social
and spiritual life of all its citizens.

As a result of a Germany being run for the benefit of the Germans as
oppose to for the benefit of Jewish bankers, the citizens of Germany
were able to make Germany the most powerful and prosperous state in
Europe in only a seven year period.

The Jews could not let this continue as they knew that it would spell
the death of their debt driven money system and so World War 2 starts
this year, in earnest. This war is about one thing, which money
system would survive. This is not a war between Germany and the
Allies, it is a war between Germany and the Jewish money power who are
in control of the Allied leadership and use them and their media to
propagandize the Allied populous into hatred of the Germans.

The Synagogue of Satan by By Andrew Carrington Hitchcock
http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrew.Carrington.Hitchcock/Synagogue.of.Satan/1936-1948.htm

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Mar 26, 2008, 11:48:36 AM3/26/08
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Following the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, there are now only
five nations on the world left without a Rothschild owned central
bank: Iran; North Korea; Sudan; Cuba; and Libya. Interestingly the
satellite state of Israel, more commonly known as the United States
government chooses to refer to these countries as, "rogue nations."

Lie detector

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"◄ iamthewitness.com ►" <dfgsdgt5...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> Hitler had been doing phenomenally well in turning his country around
> economically ever since he came to power. He did this by breaking
> with the Jewish international bankers, and trading by barter, thus
> bartering the surplus of goods Germany had, with the surplus of goods
> Germany needed that another country had, without debts being incurred
> on either side.
>
> He, like Abraham Lincoln before him, simply issued what money was
> needed on the authority of the German Government, which was backed by
> the productivity of the German labour force, and not the empty
> promises of Jewish international bankers, who in a country without
> debt, could not function.

Long on anti-semitism short on historical fact.

The end of hyperinflation associated with the Weimar Republic was brought
about in 1924 by a scheme which was nothing to do with Hitler but was the
brainchild of Hjalmar Schlact central banker. The old grossly inflated
papiermark was replaced at a rate of 1 trillion to one by a new Reichsmark.
The Reichsmark was pegged to a non-negotiable currency called the
Rentenmark. This was backed by mortgages against land of which of course
there is a limited supply. Holders of Reichmarks could hedge their holdings
by converting them into Rentenmarks which they could not spend or (I
believe) trade. Thus to spend their Rentenmarks holders had to reconvert
them back into Reichsmarks.

In 1924 Hitler was in prison.

The Reichsmark remained in use throughout the pre-war and war period being
finally replaced by the Deuschmark in 1948.

Sorry to let historical fact spoil a good propaganda exercise.

Michael Ceglar

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Mar 26, 2008, 12:32:36 PM3/26/08
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On 26 Mrz., 16:43, ◄ iamthewitness.com

<dfgsdgt546456...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hitler had been doing phenomenally well in turning his country around
> economically ever since he came to power.

That's simply wrong.
1939 his Reich was almost bankrupt.
1942 half of the german budget was made by robbery in Russia.

Producing nothing but weapons is always economical bullshit.

Michael

parr...@yahoo.com

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Mar 26, 2008, 2:21:31 PM3/26/08
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On 26 Mar, 17:24, "Lie detector" <truthsee...@large.com> wrote:
> "◄ iamthewitness.com ►" <dfgsdgt546456...@googlemail.com> wrote in messagenews:d9cc63bd-3097-430b...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

Similarly, wasn't the economic turnaroud of Hitler's Germany due
partly to Schacht's policy of deficit financing? This seems to belie
the original post's assertion that it was all built on the
productivity of German labour, with no debt in sight..

Bert Hyman

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Mar 26, 2008, 2:40:51 PM3/26/08
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dfgsdgt5...@googlemail.com
(=?UTF-8?B?4peEIGlhbXRoZXdpdG5lc3MuY29tIOKWug==?=) wrote in
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> As a result of this policy, Germany was able to regenerate the
> social and spiritual life of all its citizens.

Which I'm sure was a great advantage when they were formed into work
crews to bury their dead and pick up the rubble of their destroyed
cities.

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | be...@iphouse.com

abelard

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Mar 26, 2008, 4:21:16 PM3/26/08
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On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:21:31 -0700 (PDT), parr...@yahoo.com wrote:

>On 26 Mar, 17:24, "Lie detector" <truthsee...@large.com> wrote:

>> "? iamthewitness.com ?" <dfgsdgt546456...@googlemail.com> wrote in messagenews:d9cc63bd-3097-430b...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

yes...there were a slew of errors in the original post so i didn't
bother...he's obviously a disturbed fool...

there is a serious analysis...from my hitler page:-
http://www.abelard.org/hitler/hitler.htm
Silverman, Dan P.
Hitler’s Economy: Nazi Work Creation Programs, 1933 – 1936
• 1998, 0674740718 (hb), $45.00 [amazon.com]

"Hitler’s administration has been credited with applying
‘Keynesian’-type solutions[19] to the chaos existing in Germany prior
to his being raised to Chancellor[19a]; and this is probably a
reasonable assessment. Hitler started his government during a low ebb
in German economic fortunes. World-wide problems were aggravated in
part by the foolish behaviour of the Allies after the First World War.
Hitler probably gave confidence to the masses; but some believe
recovery was already under way and that statistics were widely
falsified (nothing new there!). However, Hitler had a major weapon
that was not available in the United States (the other economy in
greatest difficulties at the time): coercion."

sweden and britain also had heavy depression difficulties...

regards...

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Mar 26, 2008, 5:20:21 PM3/26/08
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'Long on anti-semitism short on historical fact. '

'Sorry to let historical fact spoil a good propaganda exercise. '

'there were a slew of errors in the original post so i didn't
bother...he's obviously a disturbed fool... '


Anyone who isn't a zionist shill want to reply?


abelard

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Mar 26, 2008, 5:25:14 PM3/26/08
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obviously you mean:-

"bugger facts, anyone infected by your mad cult want to reply"

must be lonely in that attic of yours to have you going seeking
support for your delusions

FACE

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On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:20:21 -0700 (PDT), in uk.politics.misc, in
thread Re: World War Two was not a war between Germany and the Allies, ?
iamthewitness.com ? <dfgsdgt5...@googlemail.com>, wrote

I think that you realize that you are completely nuts with this approach
to WWII and I think that you know that it has nothing to do with
"zionist shill"ing to notice that.

I noticed your post several hours ago and wondered who/what actually
believes you. That crypto-jew the pope, maybe?

Keep listening to Alex Jones and Hal Turner and watch out for the black
helicopters -- the ones with a red dot on the bottom are from the Black
Pope.....

FACE

parr...@yahoo.com

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Mar 27, 2008, 4:26:13 AM3/27/08
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On 26 Mar, 22:20, ◄ iamthewitness.com

<dfgsdgt546456...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 'Long on anti-semitism short on historical fact. '
>
> 'Sorry to let historical fact spoil a good propaganda exercise. '
>
> 'there were a slew of errors in the original post so i didn't
> bother...he's obviously a disturbed fool... '

You obviously are. HOw was an economy run on deficit finance "debt
free"?

>
> Anyone who isn't a zionist shill want to reply?

I already have, thanks.

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On Mar 27, 8:26 am, parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Anyone who isn't a zionist shill want to reply?
>
> I already have, thanks.

Zionists lie as instinctively and reflexively as genuine people
breathe.

Lie detector

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"? iamthewitness.com ?" <dfgsdgt5...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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Who was lying on this occasion?


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Mar 27, 2008, 5:10:28 AM3/27/08
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Since the fall of jewish international banking in Russia in 1991
(700,000 Jews left Russia for Israel after the collapse of their
communist rule), bartering has made up up to 80% of the economy in
some places. You can imagine how Russia has slipped off the Christmas
card list of the westrn countries still in the grip of the jewish
international bankers.

The Red Pattern of World Conquest
http://www.alor.org/Library/RedPatternofWorldConquest.htm
It is also true that Hitler's barter trade agreements, instigated in
an attempt to obtain raw materials from abroad, also provoked
considerable antagonism amongst commercial and financial groups in
other countries while his treatment of the Jewish people quite
naturally aroused the violent opposition of World Jewry. Whether he
was speaking as a financier or as a Jew is not clear, but before the
outbreak of war Mr. Bernard Baruch, one of the most powerful men
surrounding Roosevelt, insisted that "that fellow Hitler" was going to
be "licked". He also said in a release of a report of an interview
with Roosevelt in 1939, that, "If we keep our prices down, there is no
reason why we shouldn't get the customers from the belligerent nations
that they have had to drop because of the war. In that event Germany's
barter system will he destroyed."

http://www.savethemales.ca/001707.html
The Duke of Windsor:
The Duke was forced off the throne, not because of his lady friend but
because there were powerful people in England who viewed his pro-
Hitler attitude with real anger and some fear. Crystal Night had not
happened yet, but it became very obvious to Jewish groups both in
England and your country, that their co-religionists in Germany were
being mistreated and forced out of the country. I would imagine that
this created quite a bloc of anti-Hitler persons in the British
banking and finance community. Couple this unpleasant anti-Semitism
with Hitler's barter system that bypassed the British banking system
with its high-interest international loans, and you can understand the
anger and fear directed at the new King.

http://www.bellybuttonwindow.com/1999/russia/invest_in_russia.html
In Smolensk, a city near the Belarus border that dates to 863 and was
overrun by the armies of Napoleon and Hitler, barter now makes up 80%
of the economy, Vyrov said. Arranging trades is a complex and time-
consuming business. Many companies have at least one barter specialist
whose job is to find trading partners and put together swaps.

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Mar 27, 2008, 5:32:38 AM3/27/08
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"One of the fundamental causes of this war has been the
unrelaxing efforts of Germany since 1918 to secure wide
enough foreign markets to straighten her finances at the very
time when all her competitors were forced by their own debts to
adopt exactly the same course. Continuous friction was in-
evitable. Germany adopted a new monetary policy ... after which
Germany ceased to experience any financial difficulty."

In England the people suffer the burdens of heavy and increasing
taxation, but in Germany, the Times reports:

"Nothing is ever heard of the necessity of increasing tax-
ation, compulsory savings, or the issue of enormous public war
loans. Quite the contrary. Recently an important tax was
abolished. Public savings bank deposits touch new monthly
records again and again. Money is so plentiful that the interest
rate on Reich loans could recently be reduced from 4-1/2 to 4 per
cent.

These changes may well call for drastic readjustments in our
established conventions. A hidebound persistence in methods
and doctrines which were sound fifty years ago may easily
prove as costly in the financial and ecomomic field as actual
war. It might not lose the war; it would certainly lose the
peace."
(London Times, October 11 and 12 and November 13, 1940).

"Germany was trying to break the credit ring of the money
monopolists by the force of economic sanity and that was un-
forgivable. She was acting like a worker who went on strike against
system which deprived him of adequate food supplies though he
as quite willing to exchange his labor to pay for them.

"In 1937 Hitler said:

'Germany will enter into no obligations to pay for her im-
ports than she is capable of fulfilling. The German Govern-
ment thus takes the standpoint of the respectable mer-
chant who keeps his orders in harmony with his power to
pay. We laugh at the time when our national economists held
the view that the value of a currency is regulated by the gold
and securities lying in the vaults of a State Bank; and more
especially we laugh at the theory that its value was guaranteed
thereby. We have instead come to learn that the value of a cur-
rency lies in the productive capacity of a nation.

"The world financial monopoly stood aghast. If Germany succeeded
in her plan of economic penetration, other nations might follow
per example. The whole world would then exchange goods for goods
in a basis of equality and good fellowship. No one would want to
borrow and the financial pyramid of debt, from the apex of which
Almighty Finance ruled the world, would collapse. Humanity would
be well fed, but the financiers would lose their power.

"If the German monetary experiment had been allowed to develop
on the basis of a friendly exchange of goods it would have provided
the world with useful information to assist it in solving its
commercial problems.

What was a laudable effort on the part of Germany
has become a world war -- a war of ideas in which Hitler strives to
form a European economic monopoly opposed to the financial
monopolies of the world.

"Statesmen began to prepare the public mind for war. No mention
was made of the real causes of the crisis -- the bitter scramble for
world markets, the trickery and inhuman methods used to obtain
spheres of influence for surplus investments and for increasing the
burden of world debt. Statesmen again were preparing to sacrifice
the youth of their country on the bloody alter of Mammon.

As in peace, so in war. Humanity must be sacrificed to save a
worthless
economic system. .

"Once again the peoples were told that if they destroyed the
leader of the German nation all would be well with the world. Ger-
nany worshipped its leader. Britain trusted its Government. Both
peoples believed their leaders would save the world. It was a
tragedy of faith in men. One nation has to fight for a new economic
and political system the other to preserve the old ones.

Source: AMERICAN MANIFEST DESTINY AND THE HOLOCAUSTS, BY CONRAD GRIEB
(Liberty Bell, 1978), pp 233-236

It is a dangerous game to place people above profits. Like Abe Lincoln
and President John F. Kennedy, not long after he defied the interests
of international finance Adolf Hitler was dead.

The death of Twenty to Fifty Million gentiles is nothing to the jewish
criminal bakers when it comes to protecting thier rackets.

parr...@yahoo.com

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Mar 27, 2008, 6:04:58 AM3/27/08
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On 27 Mar, 09:40, ◄ iamthewitness.com

Do they?

You appear to have avoided my question, by the way:
How was an economy run on deficit finance "debt
free"?

parr...@yahoo.com

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Mar 27, 2008, 6:05:38 AM3/27/08
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On 27 Mar, 10:10, ◄ iamthewitness.com

<dfgsdgt546456...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Since the fall of jewish international banking in Russia in 1991

How does that answer my question: How was an economy run on deficit
finance "debt
free"?

parr...@yahoo.com

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On 27 Mar, 09:49, "Lie detector" <truthsee...@large.com> wrote:
> "? iamthewitness.com ?" <dfgsdgt546456...@googlemail.com> wrote in messagenews:9b5f0a3d-248d-42ad...@z38g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

>
> > On Mar 27, 8:26 am, parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> > Anyone who isn't a zionist shill want to reply?
>
> >> I already have, thanks.
>
> > Zionists lie as instinctively and reflexively as genuine people
> > breathe.
>
> Who was lying on this occasion?

Indeed! As I have stated several times, I think the creation of Israel
in 1947 was a bad idea. How this makes me a "Zionist" I really don't
know....

i...@the.computer

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Mar 27, 2008, 1:16:43 PM3/27/08
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Sounds like someone has his tin-foil hat on too tight. Either that got
confused on what the modeling glue is used for. Hint: not for sniffing...

Anon A. Mouse
<Agnostic Liberation Front>

z

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Mar 28, 2008, 1:57:56 PM3/28/08
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On Mar 26, 5:20 pm, ◄ iamthewitness.com

well, i've been waiting for the check of my cut of the proceeds of the
robbery of prewar Germany by the Jews for years. I'm afraid the
International Cabal has lost my forwarding address. I'll have to send
it my Elder of Zion.

jaf

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Mar 28, 2008, 5:32:12 PM3/28/08
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And FDR brought the US out of the WORLD WIDE depression in the same time
frame.
Without murdering 6 million Jews.
Without murdering 12 million Russians, Poles, Gypsies.

But the really big difference was when it was over.
The People of United States of America could hold their heads up and be
proud of what they did.
The People of United States of America became the worlds first superpower.

And 60 years after, We the People are the only superpower left.

Where are the nazis now?
In delusion. Still.


John
Free, English speaking, Citizen of The United States of America.
Live free or die!

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Kurt Knoll

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Mar 28, 2008, 7:09:20 PM3/28/08
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There you go goy you are either a blind American or a naive asshole. Tell us
how many wars did America instigate or were involved in since 1945. their
excuse hake always been the same and this is for democratize. How many time
did the Americans befriend deserve with smaller countries that gave the an
excuse to get involved. Don't Kidd yourself is very calculated when it make
this decisions. The latest scup I have is the American have rocket bases in
Kosovo or was it real planet that way. As one young American said to me in
1945 " America needs wars to keep their economy going.
Kurt Knoll.

"jaf" <m...@here.com> wrote in message news:wtdHj.132$s27.96@trnddc02...

Kharsis

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Mar 28, 2008, 9:13:41 PM3/28/08
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jaf wrote:
> And FDR brought the US out of the WORLD WIDE depression in the same time
> frame.
> Without murdering 6 million Jews.
> Without murdering 12 million Russians, Poles, Gypsies.
>
> But the really big difference was when it was over.
> The People of United States of America could hold their heads up and be
> proud of what they did.
> The People of United States of America became the worlds first superpower.
>
> And 60 years after, We the People are the only superpower left.

Not really correct. The British Empire was the world's first modern
superpower.

In ancient/medieeval times it would have been the Persians, then the
Greeks, then the Romans, then the Mongols


>
> Where are the nazis now?
> In delusion. Still.
>
>
> John
> Free, English speaking, Citizen of The United States of America.
> Live free or die!
>
>
>
> "? iamthewitness.com ?" <dfgsdgt5...@googlemail.com> wrote in
> message
> news:d9cc63bd-3097-430b...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

Kharsis

Kenneth McVay OBC

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Mar 28, 2008, 9:40:21 PM3/28/08
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In article <AUeHj.3409$rd2.2286@pd7urf3no>,
The Intellectual Leader of Holocaust Revisionism,
Kurt Knoll, the reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat,
<kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>There you go goy you are either a blind American or a naive asshole. Tell us
>how many wars did America instigate or were involved in since 1945. their
>excuse hake always been the same and this is for democratize. How many time
>did the Americans befriend deserve with smaller countries that gave the an
>excuse to get involved. Don't Kidd yourself is very calculated when it make
>this decisions. The latest scup I have is the American have rocket bases in
>Kosovo or was it real planet that way. As one young American said to me in
>1945 " America needs wars to keep their economy going.

61 Statements Demonstrating Leading Revisionist Scholar Kurt Knoll's
strict adherence to the high intellectual standards of Holocaust denial:

(See http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/k/knoll-kurt/ for the first 56)

57. "Zundel was an rye sore for the Jews nobody else ever did get
treated like him. America Canada and Germany are Jewish collaborators
but I think the have no other choice." <bvOFj.113560$pM4.36323@pd7urf1no>,
March 24, 2008

58. "What evidence ?. THe only evidens we have is the one sold to us by
you and the people you represent. You are metally under edjucatet"
<fVUFj.113097$w94.2544@pd7urf2no>, March 24, 2008

59. "And how can anyone document anything if they are not getting close
enough to the dough." <4tbGj.120093$pM4.8522@pd7urf1no>, Mar. 25, 2008

60. "Replying to his posting shows you how responsive you are. Could it be
somebody did step on your does." <H6XGj.709$Cj7.633@pd7urf2no>,
March 28, 2008

61. "Only a brain can tell you. Maybe you can tell us who did have sex
with the wholly marry I am curious." <CufHj.3469$rd2.986@pd7urf3no>,
March 28, 2008

--
"By refinishion you i mean you on their side definetly you
opinons are." (Kurt Knoll, Kitimat, B.C.'s Leading Revisionist
Scholar)
The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org/

Pat Flannery

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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:

For God's, Allah's, or YHWH's sake guys... this has nothing to do with
scale modeling building - so could you _please_ remove the
rec.models.scale newsgroup from replies on this thread from all future
postings regarding this particular thread?
If you want to know how to do a diorama of the Angel Of Death hitting
Egypt in 1,500 BC,or the UAR getting hit by the Israeli Air Force in
1967 AD, it's one thing - but shooting the breeze about the Israelis vs
the Arabs in a philosophical sense frankly doesn't interest us unless
you have detailed info on the camouflage of markings on the aircraft and
tanks on both sides during any conflict that you might supply.
You get us the straight poop on Syrian MiG-17 camouflage in 1967, and
indeed we are interested.
Or Egyptian T-54 tank camouflage details from the 1973 war, same thing goes.
Other than that, just please cut us out of your replies.

Pat

Bisquik

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What a dumb ass!

Sincerely,
A proud Catholic supporter of Israel! ;)


annon

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Jul 12, 2008, 8:33:00 AM7/12/08
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I can never fail to be suprised when holocaust deniers rear their ugly
heads once again.
Sure Hitler would have been a great politician if he wasn't a demented
racially bigoted freak bent on world domination. However in the end he
got just what he deserved, when he shot himself like the coward he was,
in his bunker before the russians could get to him.
For a man who showed no regret in sending countless children to their
deaths during the death throes of the third reich, he showed a singular
lack of the same courage when he failed to follow their example.
Those who seek to follow his path should face his consequences.
Take the hint.

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