Warlock class quests unbeaten?
Urbin
disenchanted by Mymule (then level 31, 225/255 enchanting). I decided to
take her up those next 4 levels to allow her to go to 275/300 in enchanting.
Things are progressing well (about 20% into 34, all mats in the bank).
Another 80% and a quick trip to Uldaman (two guildies will take me in
throught the back entrance).
Levelling up I picked up two more warlock quest lines: Tome of the Cabal and
the one to get some special robe (forgot its name but it starts off with
bringing a Robe of Aracana to Ratchet).
After playing a hunter, priest, druid, pally and warlock to various stages
between 26 (pally) and 67 (hunter), it seems that the warlock is the one
class that has by far the most class specific quests (followed by the druid,
but nearly as many). I have the impression that all my hunter got was the
taming quest at 10 and later the class quest at 50 to sunken temple (I never
got the petrified leaf from MC).
Is my impression true, that the warlock gets so many more class quests than
the other classes? Don't get me wrong, I love it (despite the fact that it
takes quite some travelling and thus slows my levelling down) as it makes
playing this class even more fun than it already is.
So far I recall the following quests:
- getting my voidwalker
- getting my succubus
- getting my felhound
- getting my cool hat (poisoning some poor noble in SW)
- getting my robes (not quite done with that)
and I assume another few at 40 and 50 for the mount and the next minion.
Cheers
Urbin, a happy warlock player
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Sunh (60), Nightelven Priest (PvE) @dunmorogh.de
Mymule (34), Gnomish Warlock (PvE) @dunmorogh.de
Juran (33), Nightelven Druid (PvE) @dunmorogh.de
Urs Steiner
Urbin wrote:
> Some time last week Urbin got the first BoE green drops that could not be
> disenchanted by Mymule (then level 31, 225/255 enchanting). I decided to
> take her up those next 4 levels to allow her to go to 275/300 in enchanting.
>
> Things are progressing well (about 20% into 34, all mats in the bank).
> Another 80% and a quick trip to Uldaman (two guildies will take me in
> throught the back entrance).
hint (though I'm not sure if this still works/will be fixed in the next
patch): you should also be able to train enchanting 300 (and some
corresponding recipes) in Outlands (either in Shattrath or in Honor
Hold/Thrallmar).
You're not 58 and can't pass the portal? Well, no problem because AFAIK
you can get ported even if not 58 (I've seen level 1 or 2 in Shattrath).
Urs
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the blessing".
vexx
> demonology specced).
>
> How the *^&^%* do you play an aff warlock?
>
Q: What is the best method of grinding? What pet should I use for grinding?
What is "drain tanking?
A: "Drain tanking" is generally the most efficient method of grinding as a
Warlock after 40. Basically, you're using Fel Concentration to help you use
Drain Life on the mob until it dies, while your Succubus is beating on it
and DoT's are ticking on it. Here is the general "drain tank" strategy:
1. Locate mob. Succubus should be out, with no auto-casts activated.
2. Open up with Immolate/Shadow Bolt.
3. Stack CoA and Corruption
4. Mob is in your face. Send succubus to attack.
5. Drain Life. Drain Life. Drain Life. Shadow Bolt if Nightfall procs.
6. Mob is dead. Dark Pact to regain mana. Succubus should have no auto-casts
activated so that all of her mana can be used for Dark Pact and the
emergency Seduce.
This strategy, of course, is made to be used with the Dark Pact build,
linked above.
Some Warlocks incorporate Siphon Life into their Drain Tanking strategy. The
common consensus is that Siphon Life is only mana efficient if it lasts its
entire duration. That means it can be added if you're fighting a tough mob.
As you obtain more and more damage gear, you may want to switch to the Imp
with Fire Bolt turned off. You'll have practically no pet DPS (a little bit
from Fire Shield), but the Imp's mana regeneration is just ridiculous at
later levels - just remember that you won't have Seduce to help deal with
ganks. Experiment and find what is better for you.
Catriona R
wrote:
>hint (though I'm not sure if this still works/will be fixed in the next
>patch): you should also be able to train enchanting 300 (and some
>corresponding recipes) in Outlands (either in Shattrath or in Honor
>Hold/Thrallmar).
>You're not 58 and can't pass the portal? Well, no problem because AFAIK
>you can get ported even if not 58 (I've seen level 1 or 2 in Shattrath).
You can indeed, get a lvl 65+ mage to portal you to Shattrath (or a warlock
to summon), and there's a Master Enchanter there on the Scryers Tier, who
teaches the same as the Uldaman enchanter does. My own enchanter is lvl 50
and getting all her training in Shattrath now - I just set my hearthstone
there :-)
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Urbin
> On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 10:48:57 +0100, Urs Steiner <inv...@darkstone.ch>
> wrote:
>
> >hint (though I'm not sure if this still works/will be fixed in the next
> >patch): you should also be able to train enchanting 300 (and some
> >corresponding recipes) in Outlands (either in Shattrath or in Honor
> >Hold/Thrallmar).
> >You're not 58 and can't pass the portal? Well, no problem because AFAIK
> >you can get ported even if not 58 (I've seen level 1 or 2 in Shattrath).
>
> You can indeed, get a lvl 65+ mage to portal you to Shattrath (or a warlock
> to summon), and there's a Master Enchanter there on the Scryers Tier, who
> teaches the same as the Uldaman enchanter does. My own enchanter is lvl 50
> and getting all her training in Shattrath now - I just set my hearthstone
> there :-)
Ah, thanks Urs and Catriona. I knew that I would not need to "stay" in
Uldaman to level up as all those enchants were now taught be the normal
trainers as well but I had not realised there was not even the need to get
to Uldaman to learn the new skill.
Thanks for that tip.
Cheers
Urbin
steve.kaye
> Is my impression true, that the warlock gets so many more class quests than
> the other classes? Don't get me wrong, I love it (despite the fact that it
> takes quite some travelling and thus slows my levelling down) as it makes
> playing this class even more fun than it already is.
I've not played one myself but my mate always seemed to be on a class
quest with his warrior.
steve.kaye
Jason Cavett
> On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 08:22:51 +0000 (UTC), Urbin <u...@dunmorogh.eu>
> wrote:
>
> >Is my impression true, that the warlock gets so many more class quests than
> >the other classes? Don't get me wrong, I love it (despite the fact that it
> >takes quite some travelling and thus slows my levelling down) as it makes
> >playing this class even more fun than it already is.
>
> the Druid with the various shapes, but nice to have to think about
> which demon to use... I even called an Infernal once over the weekend,
> just for fun :)
>
> I like the fact that there are a lot of class quests. Makes it
> interesting. I'm just two Large Brilliant Shards short of being able
> to get into the Dreadsteed quests... thats going to be fun.
>
> By the time I get to 70, I hope there will be a nice Demon-y epic
> flying mount for us too. I quite fancy a dragon...don't suppose we'll
> see that though.
>
> Now, I have a question for all the Affliction warlocks. (I'm
> demonology specced).
>
> How the *^&^%* do you play an aff warlock?
>
>
> Tried Succubus and Voidwalker on some standard (ie, non caster) mobs
> of my level.
>
> With all the damage, voidy couldn't hold aggro at all. Succy does
> better DPS than voidy but am I really supposed to be tanking the mobs?
>
> I tried fearing some and drain-life/life-tap to keep the mana up, but
> it was a lot of work compared to just having the Felguard out and
> having HIM tank and me dot and drain.
>
> --
> Bazz
> Moonglade
> Zunafrex - 63 Troll Hunter
> Malsis - 63 Orc Warlock
> Zasufex - 58 Troll Mage
> Malshakh - 53 Orc Warrior
> Verdant - 39 Troll Shaman
> Dhusidhe - 43 Blood Elf Rogue
> Kaitleen - 27 Blood Elf Hunter
> I like the fact that there are a lot of class quests. Makes it
interesting. I'm just two Large Brilliant Shards short of being able
to get into the Dreadsteed quests... thats going to be fun.
After you get those mats (Black Dragonscale, Large Brilliant Shards,
etc, etc.) there is one more quest that requires you to get 3 Arcanite
Bars. My suggestion is to already have them before you drop off your
Large Brilliant Shards.
Good luck!
Jason Cavett
> On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 08:22:51 +0000 (UTC), Urbin <u...@dunmorogh.eu>
> wrote:
>
> >the other classes? Don't get me wrong, I love it (despite the fact that it
> >takes quite some travelling and thus slows my levelling down) as it makes
> >playing this class even more fun than it already is.
>
Affliction doesn't really need the pet (although it helps).
Affliction actually does better by lengthening a fight (due to mana
regen/draining life/etc). Also, an advantage of affliction spec is
that it's not nearly as dependent upon the pet as demo spec is.
Personally, I like that I don't *need* my pet to deal out damage. At
the same time - affliction spec has a huge disadvantage as warlocks
don't have the same survivability that they would with demo spec.
Brian Westley
>On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 10:48:57 +0100, Urs Steiner <inv...@darkstone.ch>
>wrote:
>>hint (though I'm not sure if this still works/will be fixed in the next
>>patch): you should also be able to train enchanting 300 (and some
>>corresponding recipes) in Outlands (either in Shattrath or in Honor
>>Hold/Thrallmar).
>>You're not 58 and can't pass the portal? Well, no problem because AFAIK
>>you can get ported even if not 58 (I've seen level 1 or 2 in Shattrath).
>You can indeed, get a lvl 65+ mage to portal you to Shattrath (or a warlock
>to summon), and there's a Master Enchanter there on the Scryers Tier, who
>teaches the same as the Uldaman enchanter does. My own enchanter is lvl 50
>and getting all her training in Shattrath now - I just set my hearthstone
>there :-)
Yeah, my lvl 35 hunter has 277 enchanting now, and has never gone
into Uldaman. My 42 rogue is also hearthed in Shattrath, but he
can't go past 300 alchemy to do new xmutes until he gets to lvl 50.
---
Merlyn LeRoy
Urbin
> On 5 Mar 2007 05:38:39 -0800, "Jason Cavett" <jason....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >After you get those mats (Black Dragonscale, Large Brilliant Shards,
> >etc, etc.) there is one more quest that requires you to get 3 Arcanite
> >Bars. My suggestion is to already have them before you drop off your
> >Large Brilliant Shards.
>
> sigh.. 2 days cooldown. Still, it'll probably be quicker than waitng
> for Arc bars on the AH.
I assume you meant Alchemy instead of Enchanting. Unless both professions
offer Arcane Crystal -> Arcanite Bar transmution.
Cheers
Urbin
PV
>Levelling up I picked up two more warlock quest lines: Tome of the Cabal and
>the one to get some special robe (forgot its name but it starts off with
>bringing a Robe of Aracana to Ratchet).
This is for the enchanted gold bloodrobe. The last few steps used to make
it impossible before 37 or so without help, but the fire elementals were
nerfed from elites some time ago, and it's doable solo at 34-35 if you're
willing to take a lot of time killing each elemental (they will resist a
ton). It's a terrific robe, though you can replace it with a better one at
level 39 by running razorfen downs.
>After playing a hunter, priest, druid, pally and warlock to various stages
>between 26 (pally) and 67 (hunter), it seems that the warlock is the one
>class that has by far the most class specific quests (followed by the druid,
>but nearly as many). I have the impression that all my hunter got was the
And shamans, who have all the totem quests.
>Is my impression true, that the warlock gets so many more class quests than
>the other classes? Don't get me wrong, I love it (despite the fact that it
>takes quite some travelling and thus slows my levelling down) as it makes
>playing this class even more fun than it already is.
I do have to say, leveling a warlock is very fun because of all the class
quests. You'll get some all the way to 60. Some of the items, such as the
scythe, are major milestones and very satisfying to get.
>So far I recall the following quests:
>- getting my voidwalker
>- getting my succubus
>- getting my felhound
>- getting my cool hat (poisoning some poor noble in SW)
>- getting my robes (not quite done with that)
>and I assume another few at 40 and 50 for the mount and the next minion.
You also had your initial imp 'quest'. Still to do are the infernal and the
doomguard (neither of which I ever use), your class quest for the
bonescythe, and then finally the long and expensive, but very enjoyable
quest for your dreadsteed at 60. I'm hoping for a warlock flying mount
someday. Even if I still have to pay 5000 for the training, that's fine
with me.
Of the classes I've played, warlocks seem to be the most 'complete', in
that the most thought has been given to keeping them busy all during
leveling. There was hardly ever I didn't have a questline going in the
'warlock' category. *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.
PV
>Now, I have a question for all the Affliction warlocks. (I'm
>demonology specced).
>
>How the *^&^%* do you play an aff warlock?
Short answer, slow down. Now admittedly I haven't been an affliction
warlock since before BC, but I will tell you that I had no problems soloing
with my voidwalker when I was. The trick is to actually use your affliction
talents, and not nuke the living poop out of things. Also, as much as I
hate saying so, get improved drain soul. The extra aggro reduction is very
noticeable if you mostly stick to affliction spells.
>With all the damage, voidy couldn't hold aggro at all. Succy does
>better DPS than voidy but am I really supposed to be tanking the mobs?
Some people say yes - I HATE drain tanking and advise against it. Fully
empowered affliction does great damage, but you have to resist the
temptation to augment it by casting too many shadowbolts or incinerates
until your voidwalker has gotten way ahead of you in aggro.
>I tried fearing some and drain-life/life-tap to keep the mana up, but
>it was a lot of work compared to just having the Felguard out and
>having HIM tank and me dot and drain.
No argument there - I'm running a nightfall/felguard build right now, and I
rarely do anything but dot and lifedrain on single mobs, and I can do it
all day without stopping. I only end up drinking if I had to kill 3 or 4 at
once and went apeshit on seeds of corrruption. *
Jason Cavett
> On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:51:27 +0000 (UTC), Urbin <u...@dunmorogh.eu>
> wrote:
>
> >I assume you meant Alchemy instead of Enchanting. Unless both professions
> >offer Arcane Crystal -> Arcanite Bar transmution.
>
> I'll check AH and see which is more popularly listed.. if bars are
> there I'll go that route.
>
> So far, it's worked fairly well... hunter skinned for the dragonscales
> and that was a REAL grind... boring as hell.. how the WoW animals
> survive with some not having eyes, gizzards, lungs, hearts, scales and
> other bit's of anatomy is something thats always puzzled me) Mage
> brewed potions, Enchanter DE'd stuff for the shards (though I did buy
> three on AH).
>
> Sometimes I think it'll just be quicker to gather the 800g and buy a
> regular epic mount.
> --
> Bazz
> Moonglade
> Zunafrex - 63 Troll Hunter
> Malsis - 63 Orc Warlock
> Zasufex - 58 Troll Mage
> Malshakh - 53 Orc Warrior
> Verdant - 39 Troll Shaman
> Dhusidhe - 43 Blood Elf Rogue
> Kaitleen - 27 Blood Elf Hunter
Quicker, yes. As much fun? Depends on your point of view. I had a
good time collecting those mats and "learning" about the warlock
realm. And, because I grouped with a warlock who already had the
candle/wheel/lodestone, my entire total for my epic mount came to a
little over 300g (150 for the dust, 125 to the guy who provided the c/
w/l and a little more than 25g for mats I couldn't collect/get on my
own). That 500g savings is going to training my skill level for a
flying mount.
Plus, you *could* buy a mount. But, it wouldn't look NEAR as cool as
a Dreadsteed. ;-)
Jason Cavett
BTW - Does a mod happen to exist that can show you your pet's aggro
vs. your own? Something like that would be awesome.
Ishmaiel
>
> - Show quoted text -
You can use KTM agro-mod to keep track of you and your pets agro if
you'd like. Or just know that "If I cast this shadowbolt now he'll
agro on me"
Personally I think the lock class has some of the best quests, and it
really rounds out the classes background. Lets sacrifice hearts to get
my soul draining lust becon and such.
As far as affliction spec really just dotting it up and waiting is how
you do it. Like others have suggested using the succy is probably the
best that way you can pull agro to you when her health's low.
Though I haven't been full afflic spec ever, 17/0/44 Nightfall and
Shadowfury.
I really love the Seed of Corruption skill too :D
Did a random ony run on friday, when the whelps came and none of the
tanks picked it up (I think he was busy trying to land a rend or
something) loaded up a few seeds while a mage frost nova'd them and
unleashed a shadowfury. ALL the seeds procced and boom!!! So
satisfying, lifetap, drain on ony, dot her up...
I tend to get over zealous with it though :P
Brian Westley
...
>I do have to say, leveling a warlock is very fun because of all the class
>quests. You'll get some all the way to 60. Some of the items, such as the
>scythe, are major milestones and very satisfying to get.
Noooooo, the Abyss Shard rules! Don't take the scythe, you'll upgrade
it eventually, but the shard trinket is unique. Summons your VW with no
soul shard or mana needed, 30 min cooldown.
Generate shards while running around town or when grinding mats
in lowbie areas. Just have your pet 'stay' and run off to get
a soul shard refund and reuse every 30 minutes. Use it every
logoff and logon - 2 free shards!
---
Merlyn LeRoy
Jason Cavett
Oh man...that's an excellent idea.
:: wish I had picked up the Abyss Shard ::
:-\
joh...@gmail.com
I thought that trinket looked cool, but then I remembered "Pets aren't
the only thing I use shards for" and decided to pass.
PV
>> Sometimes I think it'll just be quicker to gather the 800g and buy a
>> regular epic mount.
Incidentally, epic mouint training went way down in price. The warlock or
paladin mount might actually be a bit more expensive than the bought one
now, when you take into account all the stuff you have to buy at each step.
Not to say you shouldn't get a dreadsteed, but it's not a trick to save
hundreds of gold anymore. *
PV
>BTW - Does a mod happen to exist that can show you your pet's aggro
>vs. your own? Something like that would be awesome.
Not that I've seen! KTMThreat doesn't show pet aggro unfortunately, and
I'm not aware of a threat mod that does. *
Jason Cavett
It went down? From what to what? Yeah, I know mount price went down,
but you still have to train in the ability to ride an epic mount and
that's what is expensive (900g total, or 800g with rep). Unless...you
have different info.
Urbin
> "Jason Cavett" <jason....@gmail.com> writes:
> >BTW - Does a mod happen to exist that can show you your pet's aggro
> >vs. your own? Something like that would be awesome.
>
> Not that I've seen! KTMThreat doesn't show pet aggro unfortunately, and
> I'm not aware of a threat mod that does. *
KTM works just fine both with my hunter and warlock pets.
Urbin
> PV <pv+u...@pobox.com> wrote:
> > it impossible before 37 or so without help, but the fire elementals were
> > nerfed from elites some time ago, and it's doable solo at 34-35 if you're
> > willing to take a lot of time killing each elemental (they will resist a
> > ton). It's a terrific robe, though you can replace it with a better one at
> > level 39 by running razorfen downs.
>
> Perhaps if I *really* wanted to invest a ton (relatively speaking) in
> consumables & gear it might work but it just really wasn't happening.
I got myself some help from a 37 druid and had my coals after about 10
elementals. I am now the proud owner of the robe (although my previous level
20 robe of stamina looked much nicer :-)
Cheers
Urbin, 20.2% missing to 35 ;-)
Devast8or
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> "Jason Cavett" <jason....@gmail.com> writes:
> >BTW - Does a mod happen to exist that can show you your pet's aggro
> >vs. your own? Something like that would be awesome.
>
> Not that I've seen! KTMThreat doesn't show pet aggro unfortunately, and
> I'm not aware of a threat mod that does. *
Older versions didn't. The one I have now (version 19.4) does work with my
pets. According to the changelog it also works with Soulshatter, though the
few times I've tried to keep an eye on it, it didn't seem to work.
Devast8or
Catriona R
wrote:
>On Mar 5, 4:23 pm, pv+use...@pobox.com (PV) wrote:
The training went down, it's now 600g, 540g with rep.
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Urbin
> On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 09:56:02 +0000, Catriona R wrote:
> > On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 10:48:57 +0100, Urs Steiner <inv...@darkstone.ch>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >hint (though I'm not sure if this still works/will be fixed in the next
> > >patch): you should also be able to train enchanting 300 (and some
> > >corresponding recipes) in Outlands (either in Shattrath or in Honor
> > >Hold/Thrallmar).
> > >You're not 58 and can't pass the portal? Well, no problem because AFAIK
> > >you can get ported even if not 58 (I've seen level 1 or 2 in Shattrath).
> >
> > You can indeed, get a lvl 65+ mage to portal you to Shattrath (or a warlock
> > to summon), and there's a Master Enchanter there on the Scryers Tier, who
> > teaches the same as the Uldaman enchanter does. My own enchanter is lvl 50
> > and getting all her training in Shattrath now - I just set my hearthstone
> > there :-)
>
> Uldaman to level up as all those enchants were now taught be the normal
> trainers as well but I had not realised there was not even the need to get
> to Uldaman to learn the new skill.
So, last night I did some work in Desolace, farming centaur ears, killing
enough Magram's to get the Gelkis rep, got myself an infernal stone, swam to
feathermoon for the flight path, flew back to Nijel's point, flew to Ratched
to hand the mats in, took the boat to BB to get my gold thread, hearthed
home to IF, flew to Arathi, with some help of a 37 druid got two coals,
headed across to Alterac and killed some ogres for knucklebones (getting
five tomes as well, now all I need is a group to get into that library),
killed some syndicat members for the signet rings, flew down to south shore
to hand it all in, on to the wetlands, took the boat, flew to Ratched and am
now the proud owner of that cool blood robe (name?). Flew to Gadget and went
to Shimmering flats to hand in the mats I had collected earlier, hearth back
to IF, flew to Loch Modan, walk into the Badlands and hand in the order with
Martek (name?). That took me to 1300 XP of level 35, killed five
wolves/coyotes: *DING*
Luckily one of my guild warlocks was in Shattrath and he ported me there. A
quick trip to the bank to get my enchanting mats, a run to the Scryer rise
and quick as nothing I was at 265. Now, according to my skilling guide I
needed a recipe from Darnassus (which I had not realised before or I would
have gone there to buy it in advance). Not a problem though, set my
hearthstone at the scryer inn, step through the portal to Darnassus, buy a
shield and the recipe, hearth back to Shattrath and a few minutes later I
have reached my target enchanting level of 275 and bought some more recipes.
I am now again able to disenchant anything Urbin might find on his
adventures, have quick access to most parts of Azeroth for later levelling
of Mymule and Urbin should have a nice stack of rested XP by now :)
Never set a foot into Uldaman. Thanks for all your tips.
Cheers
Urbin
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Mymule (35), Gnomish Warlock (PvE) @dunmorogh.de
mezz...@nowhere.com
>> Now, I have a question for all the Affliction warlocks. (I'm
>> demonology specced).
>>
>> How the *^&^%* do you play an aff warlock?
>>
>Q: What is the best method of grinding? What pet should I use for grinding?
>What is "drain tanking?
>A: "Drain tanking" is generally the most efficient method of grinding as a
>Warlock after 40. Basically, you're using Fel Concentration to help you use
>Drain Life on the mob until it dies, while your Succubus is beating on it
>and DoT's are ticking on it. Here is the general "drain tank" strategy:
>
>1. Locate mob. Succubus should be out, with no auto-casts activated.
>2. Open up with Immolate/Shadow Bolt.
>3. Stack CoA and Corruption
>4. Mob is in your face. Send succubus to attack.
>5. Drain Life. Drain Life. Drain Life. Shadow Bolt if Nightfall procs.
>6. Mob is dead. Dark Pact to regain mana. Succubus should have no auto-casts
>activated so that all of her mana can be used for Dark Pact and the
>emergency Seduce.
>
>This strategy, of course, is made to be used with the Dark Pact build,
>linked above.
>
>Some Warlocks incorporate Siphon Life into their Drain Tanking strategy. The
>common consensus is that Siphon Life is only mana efficient if it lasts its
>entire duration. That means it can be added if you're fighting a tough mob.
>
>As you obtain more and more damage gear, you may want to switch to the Imp
>with Fire Bolt turned off. You'll have practically no pet DPS (a little bit
>from Fire Shield), but the Imp's mana regeneration is just ridiculous at
>later levels - just remember that you won't have Seduce to help deal with
>ganks. Experiment and find what is better for you.
>
I'm an affliction Warlock. I have a macro that casts Siphon Life,
CoA, Corruption, Unstable Affliction, Immolation. So if the mobs lvl
is in green or lower i just dot them with SL, CoA and Corup, Life tap,
Life tap, Drain Life once or twice. By then the mob is dead. If the
mob's lvl is in yellow I tack on UA and the above. If the lvl is in
red then i tack on Immolation. Usually you don't get threat if you
don't use immolation.
I always send in the VW unless i want to break one off of the pack. I
let the VW aggro and then just dot them to death.
I love it when they make a run for me and then die at my feet.
lvl 50 warlock
mezz...@nowhere.com
wrote:
>On Mar 5, 4:18 am, Barry Freeman <b...@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 08:22:51 +0000 (UTC), Urbin <u...@dunmorogh.eu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Is my impression true, that the warlock gets so many more class quests than
>> >the other classes? Don't get me wrong, I love it (despite the fact that it
>> >takes quite some travelling and thus slows my levelling down) as it makes
>> >playing this class even more fun than it already is.
>>
>> Pretty much.. I love playing my warlock.. it's not as complicated as
>> the Druid with the various shapes, but nice to have to think about
>> which demon to use... I even called an Infernal once over the weekend,
>> just for fun :)
>>
>> I like the fact that there are a lot of class quests. Makes it
>> interesting. I'm just two Large Brilliant Shards short of being able
>> to get into the Dreadsteed quests... thats going to be fun.
>>
>> By the time I get to 70, I hope there will be a nice Demon-y epic
>> flying mount for us too. I quite fancy a dragon...don't suppose we'll
>> see that though.
>>
>> Now, I have a question for all the Affliction warlocks. (I'm
>> demonology specced).
>>
>> How the *^&^%* do you play an aff warlock?
>>
>> I transfered mine to the PTR and specced 43 points in Affliction..
>>
>> Tried Succubus and Voidwalker on some standard (ie, non caster) mobs
>> of my level.
>>
>> With all the damage, voidy couldn't hold aggro at all. Succy does
>> better DPS than voidy but am I really supposed to be tanking the mobs?
>>
>> I tried fearing some and drain-life/life-tap to keep the mana up, but
>> it was a lot of work compared to just having the Felguard out and
>> having HIM tank and me dot and drain.
>>
>> --
>> Bazz
>> Moonglade
>> Zunafrex - 63 Troll Hunter
>> Malsis - 63 Orc Warlock
>> Zasufex - 58 Troll Mage
>> Malshakh - 53 Orc Warrior
>> Verdant - 39 Troll Shaman
>> Dhusidhe - 43 Blood Elf Rogue
>> Kaitleen - 27 Blood Elf Hunter
>
>> How the *^&^%* do you play an aff warlock?
>
>Affliction doesn't really need the pet (although it helps).
>Affliction actually does better by lengthening a fight (due to mana
>regen/draining life/etc). Also, an advantage of affliction spec is
>that it's not nearly as dependent upon the pet as demo spec is.
>Personally, I like that I don't *need* my pet to deal out damage. At
>the same time - affliction spec has a huge disadvantage as warlocks
>don't have the same survivability that they would with demo spec.
I don't die too often anymore since I switched to affliction from
demonology. I do miss pulling a pet in 1/2 sec but that is all i
miss. I very seldom use any food or water and if i don't want to use
my pet i use the imp for a nice mana base.
What is the sense in being a warlock if your not going to use the pet.
Might as well be a mage.
Jason Cavett
> On 5 Mar 2007 09:46:56 -0800, "Jason Cavett" <jason.cav...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Plus, you *could* buy a mount. But, it wouldn't look NEAR as cool as
> >a Dreadsteed. ;-)
>
> a real warlock" better than anything else.
>
> So far, I've spent around 200g, I guess, so still well short of a
> standard mount cost.
>
> One of my guildies has the reusable stuff and said he'll help.
>
> I just hope it doesn't end there... want to see the standard flying
> mount and the epic for Warlocks now.
>
> --
> Bazz
> Moonglade
> Zunafrex - 63 Troll Hunter
> Malsis - 63 Orc Warlock
> Zasufex - 58 Troll Mage
> Malshakh - 53 Orc Warrior
> Verdant - 39 Troll Shaman
> Dhusidhe - 43 Blood Elf Rogue
> Kaitleen - 27 Blood Elf Hunter
> One of my guildies has the reusable stuff and said he'll help.
Yup. That will definitely help - saves you 250g. Be sure to thank
said guildy appropriately.
Have your guild run UBRS twice with you to farm Black Dragonscale
(make sure you have a skinner) and any BoE greens/blues that drop,
have one of your guildy enchanters disenchant it to try to get Large
Brilliant Shards. Honestly, it's pretty easy to collect most of the
mats w/out spending much money (as long as you're willing to take the
time). Ghost Mushrooms are the devil, though. :-p (I collected them
myself. Bah, haha.)
Jason Cavett
> On 6 Mar 2007 05:46:32 -0800, "Jason Cavett" <jason.cav...@gmail.com>
>
> Hunter went and farmed black dragonkin in Burning Steppes. Took a
> while, what with the bots and all. Had fun with them.. wait till they
> send in 'cat' then ping target with arcane shot. Send in MY cat
> (Mungojerrie) and have the benefit of two dps pets and two ranged
> attackers.. 61 elites going down in 20 seconds.. There must be some
> rudimentary intelligence or a geek at the keyboard every so often cos
> after a few of those, they'd logoff. tee hee
>
> The Potions of Shadow wotsit, my Alchemist mage made.. went and farmed
> Skull Rock cave for a couple of days for the 'shrooms.
>
> Large Brilliant Shards was a bit chaotic... send a few BC blues to my
> Warrior enchanter, got 3 LBS out of about 6 or 7 blues...sigh...
> eventually bit the bullet and bought the last 3 on AH.
>
> Just need the arcanite bars now. I'll probably buy the thorium and
> crystals on AH and have my Alchemist make them.. not in a hurry.
>
> Unless of course, there are 3 really cheap Arc bars on AH...
>
> --
> Bazz
> Moonglade
> Zunafrex - 63 Troll Hunter
> Malsis - 63 Orc Warlock
> Zasufex - 58 Troll Mage
> Malshakh - 53 Orc Warrior
> Verdant - 39 Troll Shaman
> Dhusidhe - 43 Blood Elf Rogue
> Kaitleen - 27 Blood Elf Hunter
Sounds like you're doing great.
Recommendation - if you're going to buy the thorium and arcane
crystals, do it sooner than later. You need 3 bars total and the
cooldown on the transmute is 24 hours.
:-)
Enjoy the dreadsteed! The fight for it is *extremely* fun. (Probably
my favorite battle in the whole game so far.)
AlphaWoolf
wrote:
>
>Is my impression true, that the warlock gets so many more class quests than
>the other classes? Don't get me wrong, I love it (despite the fact that it
>takes quite some travelling and thus slows my levelling down) as it makes
>playing this class even more fun than it already is.
>
>So far I recall the following quests:
>- getting my voidwalker
>- getting my succubus
>- getting my felhound
>- getting my cool hat (poisoning some poor noble in SW)
>- getting my robes (not quite done with that)
>and I assume another few at 40 and 50 for the mount and the next minion.
I don't recognize the hat quest, so maybe that's Alliance only or I
missed it. But there are more I can think of:
- quest for the Orb of Nora'hil (sp?) (+dmg offhand), quest pieces
come from SFK and BFD. You're beyond that.
- Rachet quest for an offhand or staff (I think mages get a similar
questline). That's doable late 30s.
- the 40 quest is just getting the felsteed, basically click accept
and then click complete and you're done.
- 2 quest lines at 50, one for a class item (very like other classes'
level 50 quests) and the other for the inferno spell (summons an
Infernal).
- 2 quest lines at 60, one for the dreadsteed and the other for Ritual
of Doom (summons a Doomguard). Many, many warlocks never bother with
doing the Doomguard quests because of it's relative uselessness and
the difficulty of the quest. *Real* warlocks suck it up and do it
regardless of the result. :)
Gnuthulhu, Undead Warlock
Fthagn, Undead Warrior
Rhyleya, Troll Hunter
Wydefoote, Tauren Shaman
Thunderhorn,US
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AlphaWoolf
>
>No argument there - I'm running a nightfall/felguard build right now, and I
>rarely do anything but dot and lifedrain on single mobs, and I can do it
>all day without stopping. I only end up drinking if I had to kill 3 or 4 at
>once and went apeshit on seeds of corrruption. *
Same build here, and I love it. Lately, I'm having thoughts of going
into Destruction to pick up Shadowburn though. There have been a few
instance fights where burst damage is really called for and I'm kinda
stuck when that happens (thinking of the VW adds on Vorpil in SL in
particular). I'm interested to know how you've dealt with situations
like that, and also what you think of the Demonic Tactics "nerf".
AlphaWoolf
I've seen KTM register Soulshatter and it shows my minion as well.
I've also seen Soulshatter resisted, which is something I didn't know
could happen. Let me tell you that *hurt*. :)
AlphaWoolf
>Urbin <ur...@dunmorogh.eu> writes:
>>Levelling up I picked up two more warlock quest lines: Tome of the Cabal and
>>the one to get some special robe (forgot its name but it starts off with
>>bringing a Robe of Aracana to Ratchet).
>
>This is for the enchanted gold bloodrobe. The last few steps used to make
>it impossible before 37 or so without help, but the fire elementals were
>nerfed from elites some time ago, and it's doable solo at 34-35 if you're
>willing to take a lot of time killing each elemental (they will resist a
>ton). It's a terrific robe, though you can replace it with a better one at
>level 39 by running razorfen downs.
>
See, I missed RFD on my first char completely (the warlock). I ended
up wearing the Bloodrobe well into 60! It's the one now-useless
class-specific item I have left in my bank. I spent a *lot* of time
in that robe!
AlphaWoolf
wrote:
Well, up until BC the scythe was a unique weapon model. Now you can
get polearms that look the same, so I finally DE'd it. I've never
been a fan of the trinket though. With the shard refund features in
place now you can exploit it somewhat but I haven't yet been in a
situation where it would have benefitted me. If I'm in a low-level
area my imp can kill things just fine.
Matt McLeod
> I don't recognize the hat quest, so maybe that's Alliance only or I
> missed it. But there are more I can think of:
The Alliance version starts in the Slaughtered Lamb in Stormwind,
has you grabbing materials from the Wetlands and Darkshire, and then
poisoning a noble who has been poking his nose into warlock business.
The hat itself is a really nice purple pointy one with pretty good
stats for the level. It was a real pity to have to stop wearing it,
but as a green it stopped being competitive about ten levels later.
Matt
ScratchMonkey
@gaspode.boggle.org:
> The Alliance version starts in the Slaughtered Lamb in Stormwind,
> has you grabbing materials from the Wetlands and Darkshire, and then
> poisoning a noble who has been poking his nose into warlock business.
Noble Brew. Fun little quest that you should do at the same time you do the
Stalvan chain in Duskwood, as one of the components is stolen from his
garden.
> The hat itself is a really nice purple pointy one with pretty good
> stats for the level. It was a real pity to have to stop wearing it,
> but as a green it stopped being competitive about ten levels later.
I kept that hat in my bank for a long time after upgrading to the chapeau
from Scarlet Monastery.
Now at 55 I'm wearing the Arcane Cover, a gift from a guildie:
http://www.thottbot.com/?i=Arcane%20Cover
I think it looks pretty nifty on a gnome.
ScratchMonkey
news:slrneunkjt...@stinky.trash.net:
> Levelling up I picked up two more warlock quest lines: Tome of the
> Cabal and the one to get some special robe (forgot its name but it
> starts off with bringing a Robe of Aracana to Ratchet).
I love that quest, because it's bought me many horses. I get very little
competition selling the Arcana daily for 5g.
Matt McLeod
> I kept that hat in my bank for a long time after upgrading to the chapeau
> from Scarlet Monastery.
>
> Now at 55 I'm wearing the Arcane Cover, a gift from a guildie:
>
> http://www.thottbot.com/?i=Arcane%20Cover
>
> I think it looks pretty nifty on a gnome.
I had one of those for a while.
At 63 my mage is now wearing:
http://www.thottbot.com/?i=57530
which looks particularly silly with the big pink beard. :)
Matt
PV
>Same build here, and I love it. Lately, I'm having thoughts of going
>into Destruction to pick up Shadowburn though. There have been a few
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt, spilled ketchup on it.
>instance fights where burst damage is really called for and I'm kinda
>stuck when that happens (thinking of the VW adds on Vorpil in SL in
>particular). I'm interested to know how you've dealt with situations
>like that, and also what you think of the Demonic Tactics "nerf".
Lack of burst damage doesn't bother me that much - my base damage is higher
than it would be in a heavy destruction build. Less bursts means less boss
aggro.
As for the nerf, don't care. It cost me a bit of damage, but I really
needed some more crit anyway. Generally speaking, complaining about nerfs
is a stupid waste of time - you adjust and move on. *
PV
>The hat itself is a really nice purple pointy one with pretty good
>stats for the level. It was a real pity to have to stop wearing it,
>but as a green it stopped being competitive about ten levels later.
The good news (if you like embracing the stereotype) is that there at least
two of those hats as quest rewards - the skywitch hat, and the red pointy
hat. The red one is pretty nice looking - I picked it up in Toshley's
station, I think. *
AlphaWoolf
wrote:
Sounds neat, but I don't know of any Horde equivalent to that.
Devast8or
"AlphaWoolf" <alpha...@yourcoatsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:ld7tu2hdkkil9jufl...@4ax.com...
>
> I've seen KTM register Soulshatter and it shows my minion as well.
> I've also seen Soulshatter resisted, which is something I didn't know
> could happen. Let me tell you that *hurt*. :)
>
Yeah, I found out why I didn't see soulshatter being picked up by KTM - the
master target has to be set :)
Didn't know soulshatter could be resisted, that's very nice to know, thanks.
Devast8or
AlphaWoolf
Yeah, it was on the screen just like when feign death is resisted on a
hunter. And then the boss pounded me into a jelly stain on the floor.
:)
As with feign death, proximity seems to play a role. Best to do
either without the mob right in your face.
Marypop
> Now, I have a question for all the Affliction warlocks. (I'm
> demonology specced).
>
> How the *^&^%* do you play an aff warlock?
Same answer as others ...
Dark pact is yoyr friend.
I usually do this for farm :
- get my imp out
- pull a mob all in instants (yes i don't even use immolate / SB anymore or
almost (if instant procs)!)
- so the 3 dots : drain life, corruption, agony (all improved)
- pull another one with the same dots
- and another one
- and another one ...
I know, it's just awfull isn't it ?
Everytime your imp has mana : dark pact to fill your own.
drain life on several mobs will fill your life.
Don't forget that your stuff should be different
+spell damage > stamina > all
Crits are not that important.
In case of trouble : instant cast your zone fear.
That's for farming mobs your levels.
If you have a bigger one, fear is your friend, along with immolation, and
why not SB.
And even if you don't use your pet a lot, it's not a mage at all
(destruction build is more mage-like)
You can stay contact with mobs, fights last longer but you finish with
plenty of life / mana
You don't drink you eat :p
Just have your void / succubus / dog for very specific fights, with tough
guys, tough adds, casters depending.
Have fun.