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eddy

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Nov 21, 2009, 3:17:28 PM11/21/09
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My warrior is currently a miner/blacksmith but I'm wondering if this
is worthwhile in the long run. Originally i learnt BS to make armour
as the AH seemed expensive but either the stuff i can make is too high
level for me or I already have better. Would engineering be of more
lasting use? BS does have skelington keys and sharpening stones but I
think there are no stones in the ore mined in Outlands. Any
suggestions gratefully received.

ASKF

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Nov 21, 2009, 4:02:46 PM11/21/09
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eddy ytrede sig i <efigg5hnj4q8pjbq7...@4ax.com> med
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Stick with BS.

Most proffessions have a problem below lvl 300. The crafting level will
constantly lag behind your char level, meaning that the mats you need to
make items suitable for your level, will be avalible in higher level
areas.

BS will let you add extra sockets on some items, while Engineering will
just be fun to play with, and generaly a money drain.
--
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"When you try to change a mans paradigm, you must keep in mind that he
can hear you only through the filter of the paradigm he holds."
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eddy

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On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:02:46 +0100, ASKF <nos...@askf.dk> wrote:

>eddy ytrede sig i <efigg5hnj4q8pjbq7...@4ax.com> med
>dette:
>
>>My warrior is currently a miner/blacksmith but I'm wondering if this
>>is worthwhile in the long run. Originally i learnt BS to make armour
>>as the AH seemed expensive but either the stuff i can make is too high
>>level for me or I already have better. Would engineering be of more
>>lasting use? BS does have skelington keys and sharpening stones but I
>>think there are no stones in the ore mined in Outlands. Any
>>suggestions gratefully received.
>
>Stick with BS.
>
>Most proffessions have a problem below lvl 300. The crafting level will
>constantly lag behind your char level, meaning that the mats you need to
>make items suitable for your level, will be avalible in higher level
>areas.
>
>BS will let you add extra sockets on some items, while Engineering will
>just be fun to play with, and generaly a money drain.

ahh thanks for the tip, its usefull to have info from someone who has
been through the wars

Shiflet

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Nov 21, 2009, 5:45:37 PM11/21/09
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"eddy" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
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Blacksmithing and jewelcrafting are considered the top 2 professions for
high end characters. Blacksmithing because it lets you add sockets to your
gloves and bracers, JC because you get to use the JC special gems.


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Nov 21, 2009, 7:03:56 PM11/21/09
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"eddy" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message news:efigg5hnj4q8pjbq7...@4ax.com...

Anyone can buy stones on AH and use them now.

Crafting professions are all expensive and time consuming to level , and
character xp/quest levelling is now very fast so it can easily outstrip the craft.
Levelling a craft when at a higher level 77-80 is much easier with more gold and simply
easier to
get around the world and go back and power level it in a day or two.
Then you can choose the endgame maximum craft level items
with limited use rather than struggling for ages at 60 for many items
with short term use.

For a first player 2 gathering is better , of mining/skinning/herb ,
they give buffs that mostly keep pace with or exceed zone and level
and return gold as you go.

If you are already in outland 58+ then stick with bs but develop it only
as convenient, otherwise maybe drop bs for skinning.

Most of the crafts give similar levels of advantage at the higher levels,
and are similarly hard to level.
It depends on what niche of play you prefer, which you won't know until you get there :-)

Engineering sucks to level and has little to produce income ,
BS sucks more to level and is marginally better income,
mining feeds both well.
Once you have an 80 and good gold reserves you will probably roll a new character , level
it to get
extra professions slots and consider going for 2 craft on the main.

Warriors as a class are the most expensive and suckiest to level, you chose really
really well for a first character , not, so did I :-)
Most things in WOW are are a lot of DOH ! learning experiences :-)
To get a character quickly to 80 for the gold you may want to roll a DK
once you have a 55, they level blindingly fast.

At least consider rolling one for a day and see how it goes.
As a hard-slogging warrior you may really appreciate the magic 'I win' buttons.
DK emerge from training around 58 with all blue equipment,
give it mining/skinning and a few hours to level the skills to outland level
then ride the gravy train to 80, although they don't really need any gathering professions
it is easy to do along the way.

Or not, it depends on what you enjoy, a DK may be exactly what you do not like.


ThomasH

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Nov 21, 2009, 7:51:35 PM11/21/09
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ASKF wrote:
> Stick with BS.
>
> Most proffessions have a problem below lvl 300. The crafting level will
> constantly lag behind your char level, meaning that the mats you need to
> make items suitable for your level, will be avalible in higher level
> areas.
>
> BS will let you add extra sockets on some items, while Engineering will
> just be fun to play with, and generaly a money drain.

First: I agree: stick on BS! But.... Next to being a very funny
profession, Engineering is a useful profession. I have Jeeves now (yes,
THAT is a little moneysucker), a portable mailbox, these are very well
appreciated in raids. Furthermore I have a cheap cloak enchant of 23
agility + a parachute (yes, FUN! hehe). Also, the glove enchant (hand
mounted pyro rocket?) seems to score pretty well.

But generally you're correct, of course :-) The best combo of
professions is BS / JC, if I'm correct.

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Greets, Thomas.
Bulgaroth (Hunter), Latigo (DK), Darkhulk (Druid), and Smallwall
(Paladin) on Argent Dawn EU.

Brent Stroh

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Nov 21, 2009, 9:51:50 PM11/21/09
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eddy <n...@spam.com> wrote:

Professions are generally more a "nice to have" than required; if you start
serious raiding where every point counts, each profession has a unique
boost. They're more or less balanced with each other.

That said, I know blacksmiths can make some nice BoE epic gear which can
speed up getting geared for raiding once you hit 80; I'm not sure what the
BoP options look like to tell you how worthwhile it would be to keep the
profession.

Depending on how you use it, a crafting profession tends to cost money; a
gathering profession will make it. You can make money crafting, but the
tradeoff is play time spent watching the castbar for your crafting skill
and time spent standing in the AH or at a mailbox.

Until 80, I've never really seen a major benefit from any crafting. I tend
to skill up as I go, though, because I lack the patience to try and craft
1-450 once I reach max level.

Not a particularly specific answer, I'm afraid.


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Ralinth - Warlock (80) : Magorg - Hunter (48) : Ralethian - Paladin (60)
Rakhalga - DK (80) : Meedak - Mage (60) : Rahuraluna - Shaman (60)
Relikag - Warrior (10)

eddy

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:47:01 AM11/22/09
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On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:51:50 -0600, Brent Stroh <bms...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>eddy <n...@spam.com> wrote:
>
>>My warrior is currently a miner/blacksmith but I'm wondering if this
>>is worthwhile in the long run. Originally i learnt BS to make armour
>>as the AH seemed expensive but either the stuff i can make is too high
>>level for me or I already have better. Would engineering be of more
>>lasting use? BS does have skelington keys and sharpening stones but I
>>think there are no stones in the ore mined in Outlands. Any
>>suggestions gratefully received.
>
>Professions are generally more a "nice to have" than required; if you start
>serious raiding where every point counts, each profession has a unique
>boost. They're more or less balanced with each other.
>
>That said, I know blacksmiths can make some nice BoE epic gear which can
>speed up getting geared for raiding once you hit 80; I'm not sure what the
>BoP options look like to tell you how worthwhile it would be to keep the
>profession.
>
>Depending on how you use it, a crafting profession tends to cost money; a
>gathering profession will make it. You can make money crafting, but the
>tradeoff is play time spent watching the castbar for your crafting skill
>and time spent standing in the AH or at a mailbox.
>
>Until 80, I've never really seen a major benefit from any crafting. I tend
>to skill up as I go, though, because I lack the patience to try and craft
>1-450 once I reach max level.
>
>Not a particularly specific answer, I'm afraid.

Thnaks to those who replied, some very interesting stuff to think
about.

Shiflet

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:00:55 AM11/22/09
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"Brent Stroh" <bms...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> That said, I know blacksmiths can make some nice BoE epic gear which can
> speed up getting geared for raiding once you hit 80; I'm not sure what the
> BoP options look like to tell you how worthwhile it would be to keep the
> profession.

There's no BS bop epics, only the boe ones. If you're going for the
professions for gear, there's no gear you HAVE to be a BS to use, you can
get them all on AH/have a BS make them for you. However, if you're a BS you
CAN add sockets to your gloves and bracers though which is a nice advantage.


ASKF

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Nov 22, 2009, 4:42:24 AM11/22/09
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>ASKF wrote:
>> Stick with BS.
>>
>> Most proffessions have a problem below lvl 300. The crafting level will
>> constantly lag behind your char level, meaning that the mats you need to
>> make items suitable for your level, will be avalible in higher level
>> areas.
>>
>> BS will let you add extra sockets on some items, while Engineering will
>> just be fun to play with, and generaly a money drain.
>
>First: I agree: stick on BS! But.... Next to being a very funny
>profession, Engineering is a useful profession. I have Jeeves now (yes,
>THAT is a little moneysucker), a portable mailbox, these are very well
>appreciated in raids. Furthermore I have a cheap cloak enchant of 23
>agility + a parachute (yes, FUN! hehe). Also, the glove enchant (hand
>mounted pyro rocket?) seems to score pretty well.

I'm leveling a mage atm. with Engineering, and have had good use of some
googles, and I look forward to make some nice ammo for my hunter.

In the more hardcore wow vanilla guilds, hunters and rogues was often
requested/demanded to have Engineering, because of the Jumber Cables and
the Repair Bots was very popular too. Beside that, palladins did benefit
a lot from the explosives, since they were the only class without ranged
abilities.

>But generally you're correct, of course :-) The best combo of
>professions is BS / JC, if I'm correct.

It is now, since they're the only ones with shared synergy. Non of the
others have any speciality that works with other professions.

I normally just tell people to do the professions they like, as long as
they have gathering skills of a kind to make the needed money.

Peter Knutsen

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Nov 22, 2009, 7:05:26 AM11/22/09
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Brent Stroh wrote:
[...]

> Depending on how you use it, a crafting profession tends to cost money; a
> gathering profession will make it. You can make money crafting, but the
> tradeoff is play time spent watching the castbar for your crafting skill
> and time spent standing in the AH or at a mailbox.
[...]

I still like Alchemy a lot, though. Herbalism on one or two characters
(or more - excess herbs tend to sell well in the AH), and then Alchemyy
on one (not necessarily one that has Alchemy), and all your characters
can get boosted with potions, especially potions of Troll's Blood (my
favorite), Strength or Agility. Healing and Mana potions are much less
attractive than they were a year or two ago, but still nice to have.


--
Peter Knutsen
sagatafl.org

Jamie Kahn Genet

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Nov 22, 2009, 8:23:52 AM11/22/09
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eddy <n...@spam.com> wrote:

I think you're on the right track. My DPS pally has got a fair benefit
from that combo.

Herbalism/Alchemy is also a good choice - herbalism gives a healing
spell and flasks and potions are always helpful.

Enchanting and a gathering skill is a decent combo for melee classes -
not that one directly helps the other, but the usual pairing of
tailoring (making cloth items) with enchanting is a bit of a waste on a
plate wearing warrior. Enchanting your gear will help a lot as you level
and there are some real nice high end enchants too that everyone wants.
A gathering profession will help you pay for your character's upkeep, or
you can help out an alt who needs extra mats. Skinning's crit bonus is
nice. Mining gives a strength bonus. Herbalism has the aforementioned
healing spell. All good for your class.

I doubt engineering is a good choice for a warrior - it has more caster
and hunter gear than melee. But some of the gadgets might come in handy.
However I'd say it's a sub-optimal choice.

My advice would be to stick with your original choices - I reckon
they're a good match for any warrior.

HTH,
Jamie Kahn Genet
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If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

Shiflet

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Nov 22, 2009, 5:41:53 PM11/22/09
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"Jamie Kahn Genet" <jam...@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote in message
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> Mining gives a strength bonus.

Stam bonus, not strength.


Da 4 Horsemen.

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Nov 22, 2009, 6:48:17 PM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 2:41 pm, "Shiflet" <rshif...@charter.net> wrote:
> "Jamie Kahn Genet" <jami...@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote in messagenews:1j9m3a2.1rgrua81qqmvl0N%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz...

>
> > Mining gives a strength bonus.
>
> Stam bonus, not strength.

I actually have on the most unusual combos for a warrior.
Enchantings / Herbalism. Warriors are very gear dependent , so the
extra stats really help out. It's a money drainer at times, though I
have been making nice money DE purples and blues in raids.
Herbalism is a nice money maker, and being a warrior its nice to have
an emergency heal with Lifebloom, and I combine that with engraged
regeneration (or whatever that spell is ) you can get to full health
very quickly every 2-3 minutes. Comes in handy in raids when I pull
some more aggro.


I was just wondering, someone said JC / BS is best combo..but dont you
need gems for JC? I would think mining / JC would be better, or
Mining / BS since you dont have to pay mats...can anyone correct me or
explain why? I'm thinking of doing mining / blacksmithing on a
pallie .

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"Da 4 Horsemen." <ajj...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 22, 2:41 pm, "Shiflet" <rshif...@charter.net> wrote:

>engraged regeneration (or whatever that spell is ) you can get to full health
>very quickly every 2-3 minutes.

Also if you aren't tanking.
Glyph of Enraged Regeneration

Your Enraged Regeneration ability heals for an additional 10% of your health over its
duration.
and Glyph of Bloodthirst Increases the healing done by your Bloodthirst ability by
100%.


also bloodcraze.

But glyph slots are in short supply :-)

>I was just wondering, someone said JC / BS is best combo..but dont you
>need gems for JC? I would think mining / JC would be better, or
>Mining / BS since you dont have to pay mats...can anyone correct me or
>explain why? I'm thinking of doing mining / blacksmithing on a
>pallie .

You have other characters with gathering to feed them,
DK with mining is a quick way to get a gatherer.
Chicken and egg, you have to go there in order to be able to afford
not to be there. Or buy gold and put the whole lot at risk,

If you only infrequently need new mats an 80 can make more gold much quicker
than the effort to level a gatherer character, other than a DK, so just buy them.

Considering levelling a character from lvl1 ? think,
'I could be making 5-10 gold a minute on an 80 instead'
For the fun of levelling an alt you are missing 100k+ gold for spending the
time on an 80..in a boring grind.
Alternatively slightly less income from a slightly slower progression on the 80...
but you get there eventually, and probably better skilled and equiped.


RN

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Nov 22, 2009, 8:18:24 PM11/22/09
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:48:17 -0800 (PST) "Da 4 Horsemen."
<ajj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I was just wondering, someone said JC / BS is best combo..but dont you
> need gems for JC? I would think mining / JC would be better, or
> Mining / BS since you dont have to pay mats...can anyone correct me or
> explain why? I'm thinking of doing mining / blacksmithing on a
> pallie .

Yes, normally, both BS and JC go with mining. I suppose that whoever
suggested BS/JC combo assumed that you had either another miner able to
supply you with mats or sackfuls of gold to buy them. However, it IS
possible to level both these professions on one char only, too: you max
mining and one of the crafting professions, then mine for loads of mats of
all levels and stash them in your bank, then you abandon mining and pick up
another crafting profession, and level it using the mats you gathered
earlier. Then you're fucked when another extension comes and the
professions are extended accordingly. That is, unless you managed to level
another miner or earn tons gold in the meantime. ;)

Actually, I've been wondering if Blizz will allow for a third profession
someday... Maybe when there are more of them overall, so not to make
choices too easy. My JC rogue's so into engineering, RP-wise, but I can't
imagine her giving up on mining.

Cheers!
--
RN ==================================================
Like a rock, like a planet, like a fucking atom bomb!
================================================== BR

Shiflet

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:43:14 AM11/23/09
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"Da 4 Horsemen." <ajj...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I was just wondering, someone said JC / BS is best combo..but dont you
need gems for JC? I would think mining / JC would be better, or
Mining / BS since you dont have to pay mats...can anyone correct me or
explain why? I'm thinking of doing mining / blacksmithing on a
pallie .

They said it's best because the boosts from those 2 professions give you
more stats/damage/whatever you gem for than ANY other profession combo
available, not because it saves you money. If you want your character to be
the best they can be, you DO have to either pay for the mats or have an alt
to do the mining for you-being the best doesn't come free.


Jamie Kahn Genet

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Nov 23, 2009, 1:09:43 AM11/23/09
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Shiflet <rshi...@charter.net> wrote:

Opps, what was I thinking? Be daft if it was strength which is useless
for most classes.

Jamie Kahn Genet

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Nov 23, 2009, 3:06:09 AM11/23/09
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Shiflet <rshi...@charter.net> wrote:

I personally don't think it's worth it, but for some people the game is
maximising their stats in any way possible - which is all good, but not
my priority.

Steve Kaye

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> "eddy" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message news:efigg5hnj4q8pjbq7...@4ax.com...
>> My warrior is currently a miner/blacksmith but I'm wondering if this
>> is worthwhile in the long run. Originally i learnt BS to make armour
>> as the AH seemed expensive but either the stuff i can make is too high
>> level for me or I already have better. Would engineering be of more
>> lasting use? BS does have skelington keys and sharpening stones but I
>> think there are no stones in the ore mined in Outlands. Any
>> suggestions gratefully received.
>
> Anyone can buy stones on AH and use them now.
>
> Crafting professions are all expensive and time consuming to level

Except Alchemy for a levelling character. I've tried to level most
professions at the same time as levelling my characters and Alchemy is
the only one where I didn't need to either grind for materials or buy
them from the AH to catch the skill up to my level.

As long as you take the time to pick all herbs that you pass, you have
more than enough herbs to keep Alchemy going. (My alchemist is level 74
and about 400 or so alchemy skill with no grinding or buying)


> Engineering sucks to level and has little to produce income ,
> BS sucks more to level and is marginally better income,
> mining feeds both well.

I didn't find Engineering that hard to level compared to Blacksmithing.
I got stuck at the Thorium levels on BS.... you need far, far too much
Thorium and I couldn't be bothered grinding for it and I wasn't prepared
to pay so much money to buy it on the AH.

steve.kaye

Shiflet

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Nov 23, 2009, 4:33:51 AM11/23/09
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"Jamie Kahn Genet" <jam...@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote in message
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> I personally don't think it's worth it, but for some people the game is
> maximising their stats in any way possible - which is all good, but not
> my priority.

Not mine either, but he was asking which professions were "best" so I was
giving the answer the standard high end player picks.


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"Steve Kaye" <nos...@giddy-kippers.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
>> Engineering sucks to level and has little to produce income ,
>> BS sucks more to level and is marginally better income,
>> mining feeds both well.
>
> I didn't find Engineering that hard to level compared to Blacksmithing. I got stuck at
> the Thorium levels on BS.... you need far, far too much Thorium and I couldn't be
> bothered grinding for it and I wasn't prepared to pay so much money to buy it on the AH.

I admit I am biased, first char was mining/engineer and I wasted too much time on
all the bits of eng thinking it mattered.
Then way too much time thinking surely there would be a payoff..
Then it was nearly max , and I can't just dump it on that character because it cost
soooooo much time and effort and I never ever , ever, want to level it again.

Perhaps others feel that way about the first try, all the deadends
and disappointing results.
Second and later crafting professions go much smoother because you
have more reserves, know the ropes, can fill in gaps with a high level character easier
.. and just don't care as much about the waypoints on the path to max level.
First character levelling they are roadblocks, second they are small speedbumps.
Oh, look, bs needs 42 TS to max.
first 80-ish : that could be some weeks away,
second 80-ish or respec : I just happen to have 5x20 stacks left over in this bank
vault,
ding max, thank you and goodnight.


Steve Kaye

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> "Steve Kaye" <nos...@giddy-kippers.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:hedia9$61d$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>>> Engineering sucks to level and has little to produce income ,
>>> BS sucks more to level and is marginally better income,
>>> mining feeds both well.
>> I didn't find Engineering that hard to level compared to Blacksmithing. I got stuck at
>> the Thorium levels on BS.... you need far, far too much Thorium and I couldn't be
>> bothered grinding for it and I wasn't prepared to pay so much money to buy it on the AH.
>
> I admit I am biased, first char was mining/engineer and I wasted too much time on
> all the bits of eng thinking it mattered.

Well, that's coming at it from a different situation than I came at it.
I did Engineering and Blacksmithing on characters that were level 60+
when I had level 70s to fund them.

I did Engineering on my DK when Wrath came out and it didn't cost too
much money when you take into account all the materials that I gathered
from raising mining to 300.

I did Blacksmithing in a similar situation. I got it to 200+ whilst
levelling and then let it lapse as it was too hard to keep up with
levelling without a lot of grinding but I continued to save the
materials that I gathered from mining. I later tried to catch up with
the banked materials supplementing with AH bought materials. I gave up
when I saw how much more Thorium I needed and how much grinding or money
it would have taken to finish.

But, really, we aren't disagreeing here. You said that engineering
sucks to level and BS sucks more and I agree with you. It's just that I
think that BS sucks a *lot* more. :)


> Then way too much time thinking surely there would be a payoff..

This also changes the way that you think about it. I knew that
engineering wasn't going to pay off financially and took it for the
novelty items, particularly the flying machines.

steve.kaye

ThomasH

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Nov 23, 2009, 1:52:18 PM11/23/09
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Yep indeed. A friend of mine is very good at making money in the easiest
ways. He's got all crafting professions and still manages to rake in 2k
gold per week, mainly through selling Dragon eyes (he has 3 chars with
JC...)

Three 80's and no gatherers, it's possible, even easy.

But that's also not me.I've got a crafting + a gathering profession on
my three 80 mains:
- My hunter is Engineering / Skinning (was Engi / mining before, but i
like the 40 crit rating from the skinning).
- My Druid is Leatherworker / Skinning. Thinking of going mining
(stamina ftw) on this dude because he's a tank, but I hate levelling mining!
- My DK is mining / JC. He tanks too, so he'll keep the mining.
- My pally is engineering / mining, though i never levelled the mining
seriously. This char is on hold. I loved levelling the pally, but I
prefer my other chars at 80.

ThomasH

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Nov 23, 2009, 1:53:07 PM11/23/09
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Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
> Shiflet <rshi...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> "Jamie Kahn Genet" <jam...@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote in message
>> news:1j9m3a2.1rgrua81qqmvl0N%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz...
>>> Mining gives a strength bonus.
>> Stam bonus, not strength.
>
> Opps, what was I thinking? Be daft if it was strength which is useless
> for most classes.

And so it's stamina, only useful to tanks, and kinda useful on a SV
hunter... mwah ;-)

ThomasH

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Steve Kaye wrote:
> But, really, we aren't disagreeing here. You said that engineering
> sucks to level and BS sucks more and I agree with you. It's just that I
> think that BS sucks a *lot* more. :)
>
>> Then way too much time thinking surely there would be a payoff..
>
> This also changes the way that you think about it. I knew that
> engineering wasn't going to pay off financially and took it for the
> novelty items, particularly the flying machines.

Yeah same here. On my hunter, the first professions I got were
engineering and mining, but I sucked at levelling either. At 60, i
dropped engineering for skinning. Then when I was 70 for a while, I
wanted to have repair bots, my own ammo, a nice helmet and a flying
machine, so I read a levelling guide and relearned it. It wasn't
actually that hard a grind, because I knew which way to level it most
smoothly.

Levelling guides are really recommended when you want to speedlevel a
profession. I use free and legit ones like these, of course:
http://www.wow-professions.com/wowguides/wow-engineering-guide.html

Jamie Kahn Genet

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:04:12 PM11/23/09
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ThomasH <T123H456remo...@techemail.com> wrote:

> Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
> > Shiflet <rshi...@charter.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "Jamie Kahn Genet" <jam...@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote in message
> >> news:1j9m3a2.1rgrua81qqmvl0N%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz...
> >>> Mining gives a strength bonus.
> >> Stam bonus, not strength.
> >
> > Opps, what was I thinking? Be daft if it was strength which is useless
> > for most classes.
>
> And so it's stamina, only useful to tanks, and kinda useful on a SV
> hunter... mwah ;-)

Not so if you PvP, but in PvE I suppose you're not wrong.

ThomasH

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:59:31 PM11/23/09
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Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
>>>>> Mining gives a strength bonus.
>>>> Stam bonus, not strength.
>>> Opps, what was I thinking? Be daft if it was strength which is useless
>>> for most classes.
>> And so it's stamina, only useful to tanks, and kinda useful on a SV
>> hunter... mwah ;-)
>
> Not so if you PvP, but in PvE I suppose you're not wrong.

Ah, true, but I try to think about PvP as little as possible ;-)

DarkRose

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:44:31 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 21, 4:02 pm, ASKF <nos...@askf.dk> wrote:
> eddy ytrede sig i <efigg5hnj4q8pjbq781vh80ta5utpl9...@4ax.com> med
> dette:

>
> >My warrior is currently a miner/blacksmith but I'm wondering if this
> >is worthwhile in the long run.  Originally i learnt BS to make armour
> >as the AH seemed expensive but either the stuff i can make is too high
> >level for me or I already have better.  Would engineering be of more
> >lasting use?  BS does have skelington keys and sharpening stones but I
> >think there are no stones in the ore mined in Outlands.  Any
> >suggestions gratefully received.
>
> Stick with BS.
>
> Most proffessions have a problem below lvl 300. The crafting level will
> constantly lag behind your char level, meaning that the mats you need to
> make items suitable for your level, will be avalible in higher level
> areas.
>
> BS will let you add extra sockets on some items, while Engineering will
> just be fun to play with, and generaly a money drain.
> --
> Allan Stig Kiilerich Frederiksen
> "When you try to change a mans paradigm, you must keep in mind that he
> can hear you only through the filter of the paradigm he holds."
> -Myron Tribus

I was always told especially for tanks (don't know what your spec is)
that Mining/BS or BS/JC is the best combo, Mining gives toughness
(+health) and BS gives 2 extra sockets. JC gives the JC-only gems, so
either way, both are good combos.
For a DPS warrior, BS/JC would probably be better.

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