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Lurker

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Nov 6, 2009, 11:49:49 AM11/6/09
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I have recently returned to WoW and started leveling my Shaman (was at 70,
now at 73). It seems when I spec Resto, all I get are whispers wanting DPS.
When I spec DPS, I get tells wanting a healer. Grrrr. Is there a limit to
the cost to respec? Currently, I am not in a guild so I stay DPS to solo
level. Someone said that you can dual-spec? How does this work?

John Gordon

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Nov 6, 2009, 12:00:31 PM11/6/09
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In <hd1k6l$k2o$1...@news.eternal-september.org> "Lurker" <s-mo...@invalid.invalid> writes:

> Someone said that you can dual-spec? How does this work?

See your trainer and pay 1000 gold. This gives you a blank talent tree
as your second spec which you can then fill out as normal. You can switch
between the specs as often as you like, but you can't do it while in combat
and it drains all your mana. Glyphs are saved separately per spec also.

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Shiflet

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Nov 6, 2009, 12:24:30 PM11/6/09
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"Lurker" <s-mo...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>I have recently returned to WoW and started leveling my Shaman (was at 70,
>now at 73). It seems when I spec Resto, all I get are whispers wanting
>DPS. When I spec DPS, I get tells wanting a healer. Grrrr. Is there a
>limit to the cost to respec?

There is a cap, but I forget what it is.

> Someone said that you can dual-spec? How does this work?

Once you're level 40+, you go to your class trainer, tell them you want to
buy dual spec, and pay them 1k gold. From then on, you have 2 totally
seperate talent trees with seperate glyphs and seperate skill bars that you
can switch between at no charge anytime you want provided you're not in
combat.


PV

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Nov 6, 2009, 12:40:39 PM11/6/09
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"Lurker" <s-mo...@invalid.invalid> writes:
>When I spec DPS, I get tells wanting a healer. Grrrr. Is there a limit to
>the cost to respec? Currently, I am not in a guild so I stay DPS to solo

A respec never costs more than 50 gold. if you don't respec for a month,
the price drops (5g a month?) until you reach the minimum, which is either
10 or 15g.

>level. Someone said that you can dual-spec? How does this work?

Spend 1000g once, and you gain the ability to have two spec trees that you
can switch between at any time you're not in combat. Note however - you
need to repurchase glyphs for the alternate spec (once). I had a rather
embarassing incident recently when I used my alternate spec - I was setting
it up for the sole purpose of turning the warlock skill "suppression" on
and off because I was readjusting gear. I went into a ToC raid with my
alternate spec active, and the fight began...

Start fight with lifetap. Hey, the glyph didn't work. Maybe it glitched,
lifetap again. Hey! Maybe I had my fingers on the wrong keys. Lifetap
again. What the hell? Lifetap again in frustration. And then, with my health
at like 14, a fire lands directly on top of me and I'm dead. Of course, I
figured out the problem a few seconds AFTER dying. *
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like corkscrews.

Devast8or

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Nov 6, 2009, 12:41:26 PM11/6/09
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"Shiflet" <rshi...@charter.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:b%YIm.7054$de6...@newsfe21.iad...

>
> "Lurker" <s-mo...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hd1k6l$k2o$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>I have recently returned to WoW and started leveling my Shaman (was at 70,
>>now at 73). It seems when I spec Resto, all I get are whispers wanting
>>DPS. When I spec DPS, I get tells wanting a healer. Grrrr. Is there a
>>limit to the cost to respec?
>
> There is a cap, but I forget what it is.
>

50 gold. It increases by 5 gold per respec to you reach the cap. If you
don't respec it goes down by 5 gold per month (I think it's per month).

Devast8or


ald

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Nov 7, 2009, 12:16:31 AM11/7/09
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:40:39 -0600, pv+u...@pobox.com (PV) wrote:

>"Lurker" <s-mo...@invalid.invalid> writes:
>>When I spec DPS, I get tells wanting a healer. Grrrr. Is there a limit to
>>the cost to respec? Currently, I am not in a guild so I stay DPS to solo
>
>A respec never costs more than 50 gold. if you don't respec for a month,
>the price drops (5g a month?) until you reach the minimum, which is either
>10 or 15g.

I'm pretty sure the minimum is 5G, that's what my Warrior just paid.
10G was a couple minutes later when I'd realized I'd made a mistake
(and after turning on the Preview Talents feature).

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Ashen Shugar

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Nov 7, 2009, 12:41:51 AM11/7/09
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I think it was ald <10317...@compuserve.com> that wrote something
like...

The very first respec is 5g, (or was it maybe even 1g?) but it never
again drops back that low.

Ashen Shugar
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Steve Kaye

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Nov 7, 2009, 12:08:27 PM11/7/09
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Ashen Shugar wrote:
> I think it was ald <10317...@compuserve.com> that wrote something
> like...
>
>> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:40:39 -0600, pv+u...@pobox.com (PV) wrote:
>>
>>> "Lurker" <s-mo...@invalid.invalid> writes:
>>>> When I spec DPS, I get tells wanting a healer. Grrrr. Is there a limit to
>>>> the cost to respec? Currently, I am not in a guild so I stay DPS to solo
>>> A respec never costs more than 50 gold. if you don't respec for a month,
>>> the price drops (5g a month?) until you reach the minimum, which is either
>>> 10 or 15g.
>> I'm pretty sure the minimum is 5G, that's what my Warrior just paid.
>> 10G was a couple minutes later when I'd realized I'd made a mistake
>> (and after turning on the Preview Talents feature).
>
> The very first respec is 5g, (or was it maybe even 1g?) but it never
> again drops back that low.

The first is 1g, next is 5g and it goes up 5g each time to a maximum of
50g. When it's above 15g it drops 5g per month that you've not
respecced to a minimum of 15g.

steve.kaye
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Lurker

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Nov 8, 2009, 2:05:04 PM11/8/09
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"Steve Kaye" <nos...@giddy-kippers.co.uk> wrote in message
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Thanks everyone. I finally got 1k gold and bought the dual spec... awesome!
Now my Shaman has a DPS and Resto spec. Of course, I have not received a
group invite since...lol. That will come though.


Urbin

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Nov 9, 2009, 3:27:51 AM11/9/09
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:00:31 +0000 (UTC), John Gordon wrote:
> In <hd1k6l$k2o$1...@news.eternal-september.org> "Lurker" <s-mo...@invalid.invalid> writes:
>
> > Someone said that you can dual-spec? How does this work?
>
> See your trainer and pay 1000 gold. This gives you a blank talent tree
> as your second spec which you can then fill out as normal. You can switch
> between the specs as often as you like, but you can't do it while in combat
> and it drains all your mana.

Just out of curiosity, I only have dual spec on two of my characters who
both use mana. How does it work for warriors and rogues who start fights
with an empty rage and energy bar (and DK for that matter), do they loose
anything when switching spec or do they have a slight advantage in dual spec
downtime?

Cheers
Urbin

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Shiflet

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Nov 9, 2009, 3:54:27 AM11/9/09
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"Urbin" <ur...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Just out of curiosity, I only have dual spec on two of my characters who
> both use mana. How does it work for warriors and rogues who start fights
> with an empty rage and energy bar

Can't answer your question, but just FYI, rogues don't start with an empty
energy bar, their bar is full UNTIL they start attacking, then it decreases
as they use attacks.

> Cheers
> Urbin


Urbin

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Nov 9, 2009, 4:01:57 AM11/9/09
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Oops, that just shows it's been too long since I played my level 14 rogue. I
mixed up combo points and energy :-)

Catriona R

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:34:39 AM11/9/09
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On 9 Nov 2009 09:01:57 GMT, Urbin <ur...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:54:27 -0600, Shiflet wrote:
>>
>> "Urbin" <ur...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:slrnhffkk7...@stinky-local.trash.net...
>>
>> > Just out of curiosity, I only have dual spec on two of my characters who
>> > both use mana. How does it work for warriors and rogues who start fights
>> > with an empty rage and energy bar
>>
>> Can't answer your question, but just FYI, rogues don't start with an empty
>> energy bar, their bar is full UNTIL they start attacking, then it decreases
>> as they use attacks.
>
>Oops, that just shows it's been too long since I played my level 14 rogue. I
>mixed up combo points and energy :-)

You might have also confused them with druids, who DO start with an
empty energy bar on switching to catform ;-) There is now a talent
which lets them regenerate energy whilst out of catform, and start on
full energy but without that I believe they still start on 0 energy
until it regens. And it used to be that way for all druids before 3.0.
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Ashen Shugar

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Nov 9, 2009, 6:27:41 PM11/9/09
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I think it was Urbin <ur...@invalid.invalid> that wrote something
like...

>On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:00:31 +0000 (UTC), John Gordon wrote:
>> In <hd1k6l$k2o$1...@news.eternal-september.org> "Lurker" <s-mo...@invalid.invalid> writes:
>>
>> > Someone said that you can dual-spec? How does this work?
>>
>> See your trainer and pay 1000 gold. This gives you a blank talent tree
>> as your second spec which you can then fill out as normal. You can switch
>> between the specs as often as you like, but you can't do it while in combat
>> and it drains all your mana.
>
>Just out of curiosity, I only have dual spec on two of my characters who
>both use mana. How does it work for warriors and rogues who start fights
>with an empty rage and energy bar (and DK for that matter), do they loose
>anything when switching spec or do they have a slight advantage in dual spec
>downtime?
>
>Cheers
>Urbin

Warriors don't have a care in the world about changing spec mid
whatever. I can be flying along in prot spec from having tanked an
instance, land, change to a dps spec and hit charge as soon as the
spec's changed (and I've changed my gear).
Casters are So Out of Luck. ;p

Urbin

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:46:22 AM11/10/09
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:27:41 GMT, Ashen Shugar wrote:
> I think it was Urbin <ur...@invalid.invalid> that wrote something
> like...
>
> >On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:00:31 +0000 (UTC), John Gordon wrote:
> >> In <hd1k6l$k2o$1...@news.eternal-september.org> "Lurker" <s-mo...@invalid.invalid> writes:
> >>
> >> > Someone said that you can dual-spec? How does this work?
> >>
> >> See your trainer and pay 1000 gold. This gives you a blank talent tree
> >> as your second spec which you can then fill out as normal. You can switch
> >> between the specs as often as you like, but you can't do it while in combat
> >> and it drains all your mana.
> >
> >Just out of curiosity, I only have dual spec on two of my characters who
> >both use mana. How does it work for warriors and rogues who start fights
> >with an empty rage and energy bar (and DK for that matter), do they loose
> >anything when switching spec or do they have a slight advantage in dual spec
> >downtime?
>
> Warriors don't have a care in the world about changing spec mid
> whatever. I can be flying along in prot spec from having tanked an
> instance, land, change to a dps spec and hit charge as soon as the
> spec's changed (and I've changed my gear).

Thanks, I assumed it would be like that but didn't know.

> Casters are So Out of Luck. ;p

:-)

Cheers
Urbin

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Ashen Shugar

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Nov 10, 2009, 8:35:38 AM11/10/09
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I think it was Urbin <ur...@invalid.invalid> that wrote something
like...

>On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:27:41 GMT, Ashen Shugar wrote:
>> I think it was Urbin <ur...@invalid.invalid> that wrote something
>> like...
>>
>> >On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:00:31 +0000 (UTC), John Gordon wrote:
>> >> In <hd1k6l$k2o$1...@news.eternal-september.org> "Lurker" <s-mo...@invalid.invalid> writes:
>> >>
>> >> > Someone said that you can dual-spec? How does this work?
>> >>
>> >> See your trainer and pay 1000 gold. This gives you a blank talent tree
>> >> as your second spec which you can then fill out as normal. You can switch
>> >> between the specs as often as you like, but you can't do it while in combat
>> >> and it drains all your mana.
>> >
>> >Just out of curiosity, I only have dual spec on two of my characters who
>> >both use mana. How does it work for warriors and rogues who start fights
>> >with an empty rage and energy bar (and DK for that matter), do they loose
>> >anything when switching spec or do they have a slight advantage in dual spec
>> >downtime?
>>
>> Warriors don't have a care in the world about changing spec mid
>> whatever. I can be flying along in prot spec from having tanked an
>> instance, land, change to a dps spec and hit charge as soon as the
>> spec's changed (and I've changed my gear).
>
>Thanks, I assumed it would be like that but didn't know.

I guess if you did have any rage saved up from a previous fight, you'd
lose it. But chances are if you're changing specs as a warrior,
you're going to be changing stances too, so you'd end up losing a lot
of your rage anyway. And you usually get enough rage from charge to
get the ball rolling anyway, so starting at 0 isn't all that big a
deal.
The only way I see if ever being an issue is if they changed things so
you could change your spec while in combat. I think we're at least 2
expansions away from that even being considered.

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