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Devast8or

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Dec 8, 2006, 6:05:21 PM12/8/06
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I took up mining recently, hoping it will make me some cash when people
start needing metal for jewelcrafting. But how exactly does it it work?

There's prospecting where you need ores, yeah? I think I read that was only
the green ores that worked with that, is that true?

And then you need bars to craft the items as far as I could see on thottbot.

So if the above is true, I should be able to safely smelt the copper ores I
have to bars, yeah?

Also, I saw a vendor selling a jewelcrafting kit today - has it already been
implemented in the game? I thought it wouldn't come before TBC?

TIA

Devast8or


Catriona R

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Dec 8, 2006, 6:20:48 PM12/8/06
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On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 00:05:21 +0100, "Devast8or"
<inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>I took up mining recently, hoping it will make me some cash when people
>start needing metal for jewelcrafting. But how exactly does it it work?
>
>There's prospecting where you need ores, yeah? I think I read that was only
>the green ores that worked with that, is that true?

Nope, white ores only - the green ones aren't prospectable.

>And then you need bars to craft the items as far as I could see on thottbot.

Yep, it's basically all bars, gems and the occasional other
miscellaneous trade goods items.

>So if the above is true, I should be able to safely smelt the copper ores I
>have to bars, yeah?

Depends if you have enough gems or not - if you do feel free to smelt
them, if not prospecting is handy for getting more, although it's very
random what you get. On beta I went through tons of prospecting and
rarely actually got whatever gem I wanted ;-)

>Also, I saw a vendor selling a jewelcrafting kit today - has it already been
>implemented in the game? I thought it wouldn't come before TBC?

It seems the pre-TBC patch added a lot of TBC things to the game which
aren't really needed yet - from what I can tell new questgivers for
blood elves and draenei are in already (which makes no sense at all
lorewise for them to just appear out of nowhere, I'm not too happy
with this happening without any kind of event to explain it :-/) and I
believe the jewelcrafting recipes and kits etc are in as well. Seems
that the latest patch basically is TBC as it was on beta a few weks
back, just you can't access the new zones, but all the Azeroth changes
are in, including jewelcrafting supplies.

Btw for anyone who's not cottoned on, there's a couple of actual items
on vendors - a +shadow dmg ring and a stealth/attack power trinket
(the trinket is BoP) - my personal belief is that these items being
available is a bug and they should in fact be the *recipes* for the
items (both are listed on thottbot as being makeable with
jewelcrafting, but there's no way to learn the recipes!), but you may
as well buy them while you can :-)

The ring is at Light's Hope Chapel, the trinket is at Stonard for
Horde and I have no idea if it's available to Alliance or if their
vendor correctly has the recipe instead of the item ;-)

Snowblade

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Dec 8, 2006, 7:17:05 PM12/8/06
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"Catriona R" <catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 00:05:21 +0100, "Devast8or"
>
> It seems the pre-TBC patch added a lot of TBC things to the game which
> aren't really needed yet - from what I can tell new questgivers for
> blood elves and draenei are in already (which makes no sense at all
> lorewise for them to just appear out of nowhere, I'm not too happy
> with this happening without any kind of event to explain it :-/)

Kind of like Columbus just showing up on the shores of America. We need to
keep an eye on these strange beings to see if they intend us any harm :-/


Devast8or

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Dec 8, 2006, 8:13:04 PM12/8/06
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"Catriona R" <catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 00:05:21 +0100, "Devast8or"
> <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> >I took up mining recently, hoping it will make me some cash when people
> >start needing metal for jewelcrafting. But how exactly does it it work?
> >
> >There's prospecting where you need ores, yeah? I think I read that was
only
> >the green ores that worked with that, is that true?
>
> Nope, white ores only - the green ones aren't prospectable.

Oh, ok. got it the other way around then. Good thing I haven't smelted all
that copper ore yet then :)

> >And then you need bars to craft the items as far as I could see on
thottbot.
>
> Yep, it's basically all bars, gems and the occasional other
> miscellaneous trade goods items.

Ok

> >So if the above is true, I should be able to safely smelt the copper ores
I
> >have to bars, yeah?
>
> Depends if you have enough gems or not - if you do feel free to smelt
> them, if not prospecting is handy for getting more, although it's very
> random what you get. On beta I went through tons of prospecting and
> rarely actually got whatever gem I wanted ;-)

Ah, but I'm not gonna take up jewelcrafting. I'm gonna mine and sell all the
stuff to the rich people trying to powerlevel it when TBC is released.

> >Also, I saw a vendor selling a jewelcrafting kit today - has it already
been
> >implemented in the game? I thought it wouldn't come before TBC?
>
> It seems the pre-TBC patch added a lot of TBC things to the game which
> aren't really needed yet

Yeah, I've been surprised a few times. Didn't know arenas would come in this
patch either.

> Btw for anyone who's not cottoned on, there's a couple of actual items
> on vendors - a +shadow dmg ring and a stealth/attack power trinket
> (the trinket is BoP) - my personal belief is that these items being
> available is a bug and they should in fact be the *recipes* for the
> items (both are listed on thottbot as being makeable with
> jewelcrafting, but there's no way to learn the recipes!), but you may
> as well buy them while you can :-)
>
> The ring is at Light's Hope Chapel, the trinket is at Stonard for
> Horde and I have no idea if it's available to Alliance or if their
> vendor correctly has the recipe instead of the item ;-)

Nice to know. I'll go check out that ring right away.

Devast8or


Vladesch

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Dec 8, 2006, 9:46:50 PM12/8/06
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"Catriona R" <catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 00:05:21 +0100, "Devast8or"
> <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>I took up mining recently, hoping it will make me some cash when people
>>start needing metal for jewelcrafting. But how exactly does it it work?
>>
>>There's prospecting where you need ores, yeah? I think I read that was
>>only
>>the green ores that worked with that, is that true?
>
> Nope, white ores only - the green ones aren't prospectable.

Hmm, arnt gold and silver (and truesilver) green?

>
>>And then you need bars to craft the items as far as I could see on
>>thottbot.
>
> Yep, it's basically all bars, gems and the occasional other
> miscellaneous trade goods items.
>

Just open mining (in the general spell tab) and theres recipes to convert
ore to bars. You need to be next to a forge.

>>So if the above is true, I should be able to safely smelt the copper ores
>>I
>>have to bars, yeah?
>
> Depends if you have enough gems or not - if you do feel free to smelt
> them, if not prospecting is handy for getting more, although it's very
> random what you get. On beta I went through tons of prospecting and
> rarely actually got whatever gem I wanted ;-)

All the metals you mine are 1 ore => 1 bar (with the exception of dark iron
which takes more ores). Gems arnt used for smelting.
The only time you *might* want to sell ore instead of bars is when they are
useful for skiling up mining (gold I think fits this category)

>
>>Also, I saw a vendor selling a jewelcrafting kit today - has it already
>>been
>>implemented in the game? I thought it wouldn't come before TBC?
>
> It seems the pre-TBC patch added a lot of TBC things to the game which
> aren't really needed yet - from what I can tell new questgivers for
> blood elves and draenei are in already (which makes no sense at all
> lorewise for them to just appear out of nowhere, I'm not too happy
> with this happening without any kind of event to explain it :-/) and I
> believe the jewelcrafting recipes and kits etc are in as well. Seems
> that the latest patch basically is TBC as it was on beta a few weks
> back, just you can't access the new zones, but all the Azeroth changes
> are in, including jewelcrafting supplies.
>
> Btw for anyone who's not cottoned on, there's a couple of actual items
> on vendors - a +shadow dmg ring and a stealth/attack power trinket
> (the trinket is BoP) - my personal belief is that these items being
> available is a bug and they should in fact be the *recipes* for the
> items (both are listed on thottbot as being makeable with
> jewelcrafting, but there's no way to learn the recipes!), but you may
> as well buy them while you can :-)
>
> The ring is at Light's Hope Chapel, the trinket is at Stonard for
> Horde and I have no idea if it's available to Alliance or if their
> vendor correctly has the recipe instead of the item ;-)

I believe the trainer for jewelcrafting is going to be in the expansion
zones, so without the expansion you will never be able to train it.


Catriona R

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Dec 9, 2006, 5:46:48 AM12/9/06
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On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 02:13:04 +0100, "Devast8or"
<inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>
>"Catriona R" <catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:c6sjn2d3tqmltf5pr...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 00:05:21 +0100, "Devast8or"
>> <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >I took up mining recently, hoping it will make me some cash when people
>> >start needing metal for jewelcrafting. But how exactly does it it work?
>> >
>> >There's prospecting where you need ores, yeah? I think I read that was
>only
>> >the green ores that worked with that, is that true?
>>
>> Nope, white ores only - the green ones aren't prospectable.
>
>Oh, ok. got it the other way around then. Good thing I haven't smelted all
>that copper ore yet then :)

Hehe yeah, you're fine to smelt green ores to bars though as they're
only used in bar form - all are pretty useful too, I found I needed
quite a bit of each to skill up. Btw dark iron isn't used in anything,
nor are the quest-related ores like rethban, bloodstone etc.

>> >So if the above is true, I should be able to safely smelt the copper ores
>I
>> >have to bars, yeah?
>>
>> Depends if you have enough gems or not - if you do feel free to smelt
>> them, if not prospecting is handy for getting more, although it's very
>> random what you get. On beta I went through tons of prospecting and
>> rarely actually got whatever gem I wanted ;-)
>
>Ah, but I'm not gonna take up jewelcrafting. I'm gonna mine and sell all the
>stuff to the rich people trying to powerlevel it when TBC is released.

Ahhh, good plan ;-) I'm stocking up beforehand for my priest, I'm not
rich so not prepared to pay the inflated prices for it ;-) Luckily
having skilled it up to 250 once I have a fair clue of roughly what
quantities I need... unless Blizz change something of course, which I
bet they do :-)

Sprite

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Dec 9, 2006, 6:16:23 AM12/9/06
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"Devast8or" <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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I got a nice looking design for Jewelcrafting yesterday, it makes a blue
ring with some decent +spell damage for ~lvl 40. Not too shabby! I
could've sold it for a few gold I'm sure if I weren't supporting my friend's
jewelcrafting efforts (so he in turn can make me pretty things, ofc)

--
Sue


lis...@red-dwarf.lan

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Dec 9, 2006, 11:40:53 AM12/9/06
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On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:20:48 +0000, Catriona R
<catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote:

>The ring is at Light's Hope Chapel, the trinket is at Stonard for
>Horde and I have no idea if it's available to Alliance or if their
>vendor correctly has the recipe instead of the item ;-)

thanks, cat... rogues, priest and warlock kitted out :)

lis...@red-dwarf.lan

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Dec 10, 2006, 7:32:47 AM12/10/06
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On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 13:16:50 +1030, "Vladesch" <vlad...@yah00.c0m.au>
wrote:

>All the metals you mine are 1 ore => 1 bar (with the exception of dark iron
>which takes more ores).

bronze bar = 1 copper ore +1 tin ore

Catriona R

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Dec 10, 2006, 7:57:29 AM12/10/06
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Not quite, 2 bronze bars = 1 tin bar + 1 copper bar, so it's still
effectively 1 for 1 ;-)

Lowky

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Dec 10, 2006, 10:56:17 AM12/10/06
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Catriona R wrote:
>
>
> The ring is at Light's Hope Chapel, the trinket is at Stonard for
> Horde and I have no idea if it's available to Alliance or if their
> vendor correctly has the recipe instead of the item ;-)

didn't see this ring on Stormrage US. Is it the quartermaster or is
someone else selling it?

Catriona R

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Dec 10, 2006, 10:56:53 AM12/10/06
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:56:17 -0500, Lowky <fuck-you@spammersmustdie>
wrote:

Trade goods guy - as makes sense for if it should be the recipe
instead of the item, as the new recipes are all on standard trade
goods people.

Tor Iver Wilhelmsen

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Dec 10, 2006, 1:00:02 PM12/10/06
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Catriona R <catrion...@totalise.co.uk> writes:

> Not quite, 2 bronze bars = 1 tin bar + 1 copper bar, so it's still
> effectively 1 for 1 ;-)

And 1 steel = 1 iron + 1 coal - but coal isn't an ore so it still
holds. :)

lis...@red-dwarf.lan

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Dec 10, 2006, 1:40:45 PM12/10/06
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d'oh!

/slaps self :)

ScratchMonkey

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Dec 10, 2006, 7:48:04 PM12/10/06
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Catriona R <catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote in
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> The ring is at Light's Hope Chapel, the trinket is at Stonard for
> Horde and I have no idea if it's available to Alliance or if their
> vendor correctly has the recipe instead of the item ;-)

Woot! I got the trinket! It's in the inn, upstairs to the right as you
enter. You can see it on my toon here:

http://matureasskickers.net/wowroster-apgw/char.php?
name=Unscratch&server=Aerie%20Peak

The tooltip reads:

Figurine - Black Pearl Panther
Soulbound
Unique
Trinket
Requires Level 38
Equip: Increases your stealth slightly.
Use: Increases attack power by 90 for 15 sec.
Cooldown remaining: 11 sec

Sorry, I don't remember the price. It was probably 1-2g.

PV

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Dec 11, 2006, 11:42:26 AM12/11/06
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"Devast8or" <inv...@invalid.invalid> writes:
>There's prospecting where you need ores, yeah? I think I read that was only
>the green ores that worked with that, is that true?

It's the opposite - prospecting works with copper, tin, iron, mithril, and
thorium (and the new BC metal, the name of which escapes me).

>And then you need bars to craft the items as far as I could see on thottbot.

Correct.

>So if the above is true, I should be able to safely smelt the copper ores I
>have to bars, yeah?

Prospecting is a way to find jewels without mining for them. It takes 5
ores, and destroys them, leaving some vendor trash, and (hopefully) one or
more gems that you could have found mining that type of mineral. It's a way
of getting gems without banging rocks.

So, at least at this point, you're probably best off with bars, and banking
all the gems you find while mining at the same time.

>Also, I saw a vendor selling a jewelcrafting kit today - has it already been
>implemented in the game? I thought it wouldn't come before TBC?

There are recipes out in the world, but you can't learn the skill yet. *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.

PV

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Dec 11, 2006, 11:44:57 AM12/11/06
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lis...@red-dwarf.lan writes:
>>All the metals you mine are 1 ore => 1 bar (with the exception of dark iron
>>which takes more ores).
>
>bronze bar = 1 copper ore +1 tin ore

Yes, but you get *2* bronze bars out of it. *

Eric D. Braden

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Dec 11, 2006, 11:55:11 AM12/11/06
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There's a suprise when you use it!!!! It's great...panther
figurine..think Drizzt... Just a little more info, the cooldown is 5
minutes.

Nick Vargish

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Dec 11, 2006, 11:59:48 AM12/11/06
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Ring of Bitter Shadows
Binds when equipped
Unique-Equipped
Finger
Requires Level 52
Equip: Increases damage done by Shadow spells and effects by up to 20.

Costs 6g 71s 86c


There is also a recipe for a necklace being sold by the Trade Goods
vendor in Stormwind's trade district (one of the shops on the right as
you enter the city).

Nick

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int main(c,v)char *v;{return !c?putchar(* /* cc -o sig sig.c */
v-1)&&main(0,v+1):main(0,"Ojdl!Wbshjti!=ojdlAwbshjti/psh?\v\1");}

lis...@red-dwarf.lan

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Dec 12, 2006, 3:18:45 PM12/12/06
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 18:48:04 -0600, ScratchMonkey
<ScratchMonk...@sewingwitch.com> wrote:

>Sorry, I don't remember the price. It was probably 1-2g.

70s if i remember correctly

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