Seven More Lies You'll hear At Electronic Stores
General Kanckers
1) "The Service Plan covers everything" In fact, it doesn't cover most
things. Don't believe any salesman who says it covers physical damage,
spills, cosmetic damage, etc. Also, after you have you machine replaced
(after 3 repairs), the Service Plan stops working. The salesman will act
like the replacement is a benefit, really it's so FS can wash their hands of
your buggy hardware.
2) "I'm going to give you a discount"
More often than not my co-workers would lie about high priced items,
claiming to take off hundreds of dollars on cables or warranties to trick
uninformed shoppers. Always shop around and find out how much things are
worth, and watch what the items scan in at instead of taking his word.
3) "This model is a Future Shop exclusive"
Danger Will Robinson. "Exclusives" are always a repackaged retail
product, usually with a slight cosmetic change, but bumped up several
hundred dollars. As my manager put it: "They move the speakers from the
bottom to the sides, repaint it and we mark it up". Salesmen make about
triple commission on these models, so there's strong incentive to push them.
4) "Setup will avoid hours of work"
This only applies to computers, but it's good to know. Most salesmen try
to push this on technophobes, saying that it's a complicated procedure
involving special tools. Really, they click through the Vista install, run
regedit to stop some software and burn a backup disk. Oh, and it's
automated. Unless your time is worth about 30 dollars an hour do it
yourself.
5) "You're saving on x"
With some products there are legitimate discounts available for
bundling, and managers have the authority to offer real discounts on
unbundled product. However, avoid bundles like "Pay 350 dollars for setup
and get free Office and Antivirus". You end up saving about 20 dollars on
Office and Antivirus, but you're paying 80 dollars for useless setup still.
If you're going for a discount refuse to tack on anything you don't want,
and try to push the salesman. It'll hurt his numbers to help you, but he
won't want to lose a big sale.
6) "You need Monster Cables/Setup/x to make this work well"
Anyone who reads Consumerist knows Monster Cables are a scam, so avoid
them like the plague. They make the salesman about 25 dollars per cable, and
leave you with very expensive copper. Similarly, some salesmen say computers
won't work well without setup, which less technically-inclined customers
tend to believe.
7) "You have to buy x"
Legally, the store is obligated to sell you any available (nondisplay)
product at the advertised price. Many stores "pre-setup" their laptops to
avoid making customers wait for setup. Salesmen see this as an excuse to
force the setup on you. Legally (at least in my store), if the customer
didn't want setup we had to give them the laptop at the sticker price, with
setup. If the salesman is too pushy ask for a manager, who will know the
rules a lot better.
Agent_C
Just these 7 ??? - Dude, I can think of at least 100 more!
Stay tuned...
A_C
Impmon
<Agent-C-h...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>Just these 7 ??? - Dude, I can think of at least 100 more!
And I can probably add another 100 on top of yours.
I had a Best Buy claim that unless I matched the printer brand to the
PC, they wouldn't work properly. I insisted on the one printer I was
buying and told them I would buy a new computer with the printer. They
have not been able to find a Kodak branded computer yet =)
Zomoniac
LOL! Apart from HP does anyone actually make both?!?!
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scoopex
1. PLEASE FUCKOFF GENERAL YOU SPAMMING MONG.
really real
> 6) "You need Monster Cables/Setup/x to make this work well"
> Anyone who reads Consumerist knows Monster Cables are a scam, so avoid
> them like the plague. They make the salesman about 25 dollars per cable, and
> leave you with very expensive copper. Similarly, some salesmen say computers
> won't work well without setup, which less technically-inclined customers
> tend to believe.
I was having real trouble finding an HDMI cable, or whatever they're
called, to hook up my PS3 to my tv set. The cheapest I could find was a
$50 Electrohome cable, but the salesman said they had trouble hooking
those up to some tv sets. I settled on an $80 Monster Cable. For $30,
did I buy peace of mind, or was I ripped off?
General Kanckers
"scoopex" <sco...@scoopex.co.uk> wrote in message
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> General Kanckers wrote:
>
> 1. PLEASE FUCKOFF GENERAL YOU SPAMMING MONG.
http://consumerist.com/356135/7-lies-youll-hear-from-salesmen-at-electronics-stores
Sanddancer
&
2. It's a UK group
There's a hint in the newsgroup title.
Hak
"really real" <reall...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Man you got ripped off in the worse way. Ass raped.
Just do a search on Monster Cable Ripoff and read the thousands of articles.
Calab
> I was having real trouble finding an HDMI cable, or whatever they're
> called, to hook up my PS3 to my tv set. The cheapest I could find was a
> $50 Electrohome cable, but the salesman said they had trouble hooking
> those up to some tv sets. I settled on an $80 Monster Cable. For $30, did
> I buy peace of mind, or was I ripped off?
You were ripped off... I paid $6.00 for my cable at monoprice.com.
HDMI is digital. It either works or doesn't... No fuzziness or blurryness
from low cost cables.
really real
Well, I live in Canada and we don't have access to six dollar HDMI
cables. I guess that's the price of having universal medical insurance.
Dan Sgambelluri
Agent_C
wrote:
>[...] was I ripped off?
Yes.
http://www.ehdmi.com
Calab
>
>>
>> You were ripped off... I paid $6.00 for my cable at monoprice.com.
>
>
> Well, I live in Canada and we don't have access to six dollar HDMI cables.
> I guess that's the price of having universal medical insurance.
Pssst... I live in Calgary. I'm sure that you can do better in Vancouver
than I can here.
Miles Bader
Er, did you notice the Newsgroups: line contains _eight_ newsgroups
(ps3, xbox, nintendo, TV, uk, not-uk, ...)?
[The original post is a spam/troll but man, how true it is... Sadly,
people are morons, and keep on going back for more.]
-Miles
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Moriquendi
@pd7urf1no:
>
>>
>> You were ripped off... I paid $6.00 for my cable at monoprice.com.
>
>
> Well, I live in Canada and we don't have access to six dollar HDMI
> cables. I guess that's the price of having universal medical insurance.
>
So do I. I've found HDMI cables for less then $10.
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really real
>>
>> Well, I live in Canada and we don't have access to six dollar HDMI
>> cables. I guess that's the price of having universal medical insurance.
>>
>
> So do I. I've found HDMI cables for less then $10.
>
Yeah, well your city isn't getting the Winter Olympics in two years
Doug Jacobs
> I was having real trouble finding an HDMI cable, or whatever they're
> called, to hook up my PS3 to my tv set. The cheapest I could find was a
> $50 Electrohome cable, but the salesman said they had trouble hooking
> those up to some tv sets. I settled on an $80 Monster Cable. For $30,
> did I buy peace of mind, or was I ripped off?
For $80, you could get 8 HDMI cables from monoprice.com...
I found a no-name electronics store that sells 6' HDMI cables for $15 each.
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Tony
"really real" <reall...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Cowtown already had the winter Olympics
Tony
"Miles Bader" <mi...@gnu.org> wrote in message
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> Sanddancer <n...@no.no> writes:
>> 1. This is an Xbox group
>> &
>> 2. It's a UK group
>> There's a hint in the newsgroup title.
>
> Er, did you notice the Newsgroups: line contains _eight_ newsgroups
> (ps3, xbox, nintendo, TV, uk, not-uk, ...)?
>
who cares..fucking losers do it all the time. Welcome to the usenet.
Miles Bader
>> Er, did you notice the Newsgroups: line contains _eight_ newsgroups
>> (ps3, xbox, nintendo, TV, uk, not-uk, ...)?
>
> who cares..fucking losers do it all the time. Welcome to the usenet.
My point, precisely.
-Miles
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Tarkus
> I was having real trouble finding an HDMI cable, or whatever they're
> called, to hook up my PS3 to my tv set. The cheapest I could find was a
> $50 Electrohome cable, but the salesman said they had trouble hooking
> those up to some tv sets. I settled on an $80 Monster Cable. For $30,
> did I buy peace of mind, or was I ripped off?
Good purchase. Hope you got some Bose speakers to go with it.
really real
>>>>
>>> So do I. I've found HDMI cables for less then $10.
>>>
>> Yeah, well your city isn't getting the Winter Olympics in two years
>
> Cowtown already had the winter Olympics
>
>
Yeah, but we're going to do the Olympics a lot bigger, and we're going
to use much more expensive HDMI cables than Calgary ever dreamed of.
really real
Well, Bose does cost twice as much as anyone else, because they have to
pay for all those advertisements. But they do make pretty good stuff,
don't they?
Sanddancer
> Sanddancer <n...@no.no> writes:
>> 1. This is an Xbox group
>> &
>> 2. It's a UK group
>> There's a hint in the newsgroup title.
>
> Er, did you notice the Newsgroups: line contains _eight_ newsgroups
> (ps3, xbox, nintendo, TV, uk, not-uk, ...)?
>
> [The original post is a spam/troll but man, how true it is... Sadly,
> people are morons, and keep on going back for more.]
>
> -Miles
>
Yes, I did. But this is still a UK Xbox group.
jolt
The description most often used for Bose sound is "no highs, no lows, must
be Bose. Take a look at the Google results.
Monster just follows the business model shown to be effective by Bose.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=no+highs%2C+no+lows+bose&btnG=Search
Doc
(alt.games.video.sony-playstation3,alt.games.video.xbox,alt.tv.tech.hdtv,alt.video.dvd,rec.games.video.nintendo,rec.games.video.sega,uk.games.video.playstation,uk.games.video.xbox)
Had you been diligent you would know that while there are UK and Xbox
groups listed, there are also plenty of non UK and Xbox specific groups
included in your reply.
Sanddancer Wrote:
> alt.games.video.sony-playstation3,alt.games.video.xbox,alt.tv.tech.hdtv,alt.video.dvd,rec.games.video.nintendo,rec.games.video.sega,uk.games.video.playstation,uk.games.video.xbox
Impmon
<the_pro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I had a Best Buy claim that unless I matched the printer brand to the
>> PC, they wouldn't work properly. I insisted on the one printer I was
>> buying and told them I would buy a new computer with the printer. They
>> have not been able to find a Kodak branded computer yet =)
>
>LOL! Apart from HP does anyone actually make both?!?!
Last I heard Dell owned Lexmark, and there are Apple branded printers
that goes with Macintosh, iBooks, and iMacs but that's about it.
Impmon
Funny I don't see the XBox or UK in the group I subscribed to when
this post came through. Oh wait, this post (and entire thread) has
been cross posted across multiple groups.
Next time, check if the post has been x-posted in more than 1 groups
before assuming the poster is so off topic he's missing the intended
group badly.
usenet
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Ray Blaak
Knock it off you morons. Stop the typical Canadian inferiority complex
bullshit.
I for one do not wish the olympics on anyone. Big waste of money that is.
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Sanddancer
I think you're missing the point. This is a UK Xbox group. Just
because the OP cross posted it across half of Usenet doesn't make ths
any less of a UK Xbox group and therefore completely off topic & of no
intrest to anyone in here.
Sanddancer
I did check. In fact I'm looking at the group list right now. It's the
last group listed and also the group I'm posting from.
It doesn't change the fact that this is a UK Xbox group as I mentioned
in my points above. my points about this being a UK Xbox group were far
more on topic in the UK Xbox group than the OPs post was in any of the
groups that he cross posted to.
really real
>
> Knock it off you morons. Stop the typical Canadian inferiority complex
> bullshit.
>
> I for one do not wish the olympics on anyone. Big waste of money that is.
>
Of course I share your anti-Olympics views. I would shut down the whole
spectator sports industry if I could, and provide the people with
intelligent drama to replace it.
The idea of wasting so much money on a ten day sporting extravaganza is
utterly absurd, except for the fact that in our world, the only way to
get governments to really spend money is to have a war or to have the
Olympics. Consequently, in Vancouver, we're getting a focus on our
dreadful street poverty. In China, the country is actually going to have
to do something about its dreadful air pollution.
I grew up swimming in a pool build for the British Empire and
Commonwealth Games. We also built Empire Stadium for that event, and
Elvis and the Beatles both played concerts there. Bread & Circuses, it
is indeed, but it seems to be the way of the world.
Jer
>
>>
>> Knock it off you morons. Stop the typical Canadian inferiority complex
>> bullshit.
>>
>> I for one do not wish the olympics on anyone. Big waste of money that is.
>>
>
> Of course I share your anti-Olympics views. I would shut down the whole
> spectator sports industry if I could, and provide the people with
> intelligent drama to replace it.
>
> The idea of wasting so much money on a ten day sporting extravaganza is
> utterly absurd, except for the fact that in our world, the only way to
> get governments to really spend money is to have a war or to have the
> Olympics. Consequently, in Vancouver, we're getting a focus on our
> dreadful street poverty. In China, the country is actually going to have
> to do something about its dreadful air pollution.
China won't do a damn thing about it. They'll just temporarily turn
things off in some twisted vain attempt to alleviate the situation, and
after everyone finishes waving their little flags in each other's faces,
things will be turned back on and it's game over.
>
> I grew up swimming in a pool build for the British Empire and
> Commonwealth Games. We also built Empire Stadium for that event, and
> Elvis and the Beatles both played concerts there. Bread & Circuses, it
> is indeed, but it seems to be the way of the world.
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Calab
> the OP cross posted it across half of Usenet doesn't make ths any less of
> a UK Xbox group and therefore completely off topic & of no intrest to
> anyone in here.
And you're missing the point... This is a Playstation 3 group... nothing to
do with the UK and nothing to do with the XBox.
Calab
> I did check. In fact I'm looking at the group list right now. It's the
> last group listed and also the group I'm posting from.
>
> It doesn't change the fact that this is a UK Xbox group as I mentioned in
> my points above. my points about this being a UK Xbox group were far more
> on topic in the UK Xbox group than the OPs post was in any of the groups
> that he cross posted to.
And it's still the Playstation 3 group... As long as you don't chop out the
other groups you've got nothing to complain about.
Miles Bader
> Consequently, in Vancouver, we're getting a focus on our
> dreadful street poverty.
Where are the bums in vancouver, anyway? I was there for about a week
last year, and only saw one the whole time I was there...
> In China, the country is actually going to have
> to do something about its dreadful air pollution.
I guess it doesn't help that -- so I've heard -- they're also trying to
increase auto usage, apparently with the bizarre view that it makes them
look better (more "first world")...
-Miles
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destitute of evidence that they themselves are sane.
Sanddancer
OK, and this is a UK Xbox group and nothing to do with monster cables
and all the rest of that crap.
Sanddancer
I'm not comlpaining. I'm just saying that this is a UK Xbox group. I
think I might have mentioned it once or twice. I'm not going to chop
groups out of my post, I'm replying to the post. Take that up with the
original poster.
really real
>
> China won't do a damn thing about it. They'll just temporarily turn
> things off in some twisted vain attempt to alleviate the situation, and
> after everyone finishes waving their little flags in each other's faces,
> things will be turned back on and it's game over.
>
Actually, they tried to turn everything off and it didn't work. It turns
out the air pollution is more pervasive than they thought. And whatever
they try to do after the Olympics, the world will have focused on clean
air for China and people will never forget how it was able to get clean.
It's a step, not the solution.
Impmon
[snip]
>It doesn't change the fact that this is a UK Xbox group as I mentioned
>in my points above. my points about this being a UK Xbox group were far
>more on topic in the UK Xbox group than the OPs post was in any of the
>groups that he cross posted to.
And it still doesn't change the fact you posted into alt.video.dvd
which I am subscribed in. Nothing about XBox here. And rarely
anything about UK here (occasional noob question like playing UK DVD
on USA players)
As I don't subscribe to any UK groups or any XBox groups, your post
alone is pointless and is quite OT.
Sanddancer
So take it up with the original poster like I did.
Doc
Are either of you smart enough to delete the non-relevant groups in
your reply. If either of you were this thread would be totally
irrelevant.
Bikini Whacks
sheltroni...@ifrance.com says...
Moriquendi
@pd7urf2no:
>
>>>
>>> Well, I live in Canada and we don't have access to six dollar HDMI
>>> cables. I guess that's the price of having universal medical insurance.
>>>
>>
>> So do I. I've found HDMI cables for less then $10.
>>
>
> Yeah, well your city isn't getting the Winter Olympics in two years
My City will never host either Olympics - far too small.
I can watch it on tv in HD - using my cheap HDMI cable.
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Bozos?
Do any real people actually buy those anymore?
Like paying $100,000 for a Yugo!
Backspace
>
> Well, I live in Canada and we don't have access to six dollar HDMI
> cables. I guess that's the price of having universal medical insurance.
In Canada you can get decent priced cables at NCIX.com but they are not
quite as cheap as monoprice in the States. I needed a 15ft DVI>HDMI
cable to hook to my LCD projector and the salesman at London Drugs
wanted to sell me a DVI>HDMI adapter that costs $50.00 and then he
wanted me to pay to have custom length of HDMI cable made because the
longest they had was 12ft for close to $200.00, I needed minimum of
15ft. Of course I knew where to get a 15ft cable for much cheaper that
didn't require any adapter, I just wanted to see what kind of scam he
would try to pull on me. I then informed him that I could buy a 15ft
DVI>HDMI cable from NCIX for $35.00 and he then claimed it wasn't good
enough quality. I told him he was FOS because digital either works or it
doesn't. He didn't even know the brand of cable I was buying from NCIX
so how the fuck would he know if it was good enough or not? I bought the
cable from NCIX for $35.00 and it works perfectly. I bought a dual link
DVI cable from NCIX for $8.99 too for my LCD monitor and it works
perfectly also.
Backspace
> Where are the bums in vancouver, anyway? I was there for about a week
> last year, and only saw one the whole time I was there...
Just about every person walking the street of Vancouver's lower east
side is homeless. Vancouver has a lot of transients and homeless people.
I don't refer to them as bums though as that is rude and a lot of people
are in that situation because they are mentally ill so it is not their
fault.