SMTP-Auth and Autotroll
Unexpected Guest
can anyone give me a tip how to deal with the SMTP-Auth at Autotroll?
As my ISP is requesting SMTP-Auth, I don't know what to do to get the
failure fixed.
Any help would be welcomed.
Thanks in advance
UG
Unexpected Guest
thanks for the quick answer!
I will give it a try and then report again.
Regards, UG
"Heiko Schlenker" <hsc...@gmx.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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>* Unexpected Guest <plam...@yahoo.de> wrote:
>
>> can anyone give me a tip how to deal with the SMTP-Auth at Autotroll?
>> As my ISP is requesting SMTP-Auth, I don't know what to do to get the
>> failure fixed.
>
> I recommend to install a local SMTP server (mailserver) that
> supports SMTP-AUTH:
> - <http://www.netwinsite.com/dmail/smtpauth.htm>
> - <http://www.arcorhome.de/newshamster/tgl/misc/hamster_en.html>
> - and probably:
> - <http://www.argosoft.com/rootpages/MailServerNetFree/Default.aspx>
> - <http://www.softstack.com/freesmtp.html>
>
> Picture:
> Autotroll -> local SMTP-server -> ISP SMTP-server
>
> Regards, Heiko
theAdmin
> can anyone give me a tip how to deal with the SMTP-Auth at Autotroll?
You may also try "Office Mail 2.0" at http://www.burrotech.com/om/
It acts as a shim between AT and your provider.
Unexpected Guest
Autotroll, I get the error message: "Pop3: Host not found"
No idea what I'm doing wrong, as om 2.0 itself works proper. No problem with
the auth to my ISP.
The frustration out of this made me place my question to this group ;-)
"theAdmin" <parsi...@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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theAdmin
> I already did. When I place the pop and smtp-codes, officemail gives me, to
> Autotroll, I get the error message: "Pop3: Host not found"
> No idea what I'm doing wrong, as om 2.0 itself works proper. No problem with
> the auth to my ISP.
> The frustration out of this made me place my question to this group ;-)
>
> On Jul 18, 2:21 pm, "Unexpected Guest" <plamb...@yahoo.de> wrote:
>
> > can anyone give me a tip how to deal with the SMTP-Auth at Autotroll?
>
>
> It acts as a shim between AT and your provider.
Let me know if you want some help with om2.0 or if you got the auth
issue resolved through another method.
Unexpected Guest
thanks to all for helping first. I really apreciate the offer for help with
om 2.0, as I don't get it going.
Here are some additional informations:
My System:
1) Vista 64 bit, running a firewall and virusprogramm
2) For Autotroll I have XP (SP3) running, installed on a SUN virtual
machine. Windows firewall, virusprogramm
Both systems run fine, except smtp:
I tried the following programms for smtp:
Hamster: I don't understand how to use this with all it's scripts and
variables and a help with full of programming code ;-)
Smthauth 1.04 and 2.01: Not possible to send mail. 1.04 sends a failure
message every time , with 2.01 I get the same problem as discribed in the
next step with om.
Freesmtp: Absolutely nothing happened
om 2.0: This is the one I like most and which I would prefer (as my main
target is still to get AT running, no matter what smtp I have to use).
1. I did connect AT to officemail, no problem.
2. I'm able to recieve mail ISP -> om -> AT (POP), no problem, also
recieving mail directly POP -> AT works fine.
3. I'm able to send mail from AT to om, but then the problem begins.
4. At om the outgoing mails stuck. That status line says "SMTP connected"
but the mail are not sent. As I have different mail accounts I tried
different smtp-adresses, but none worked. So the problems can't be my ISP,
must be sth. at my end of the pipe (exspecially because others do get om
running).
I have the following ideas:
None :-(
Maybe a conflict with the firewall of my host. I deactivated the windows
firewall on my vm, but this had no influence to the stuck mails.
I'm able to send mails on my vm by using Outlook express, absolutely no
problem.
I'm not that confirm with networks and server architecture, so I'm stuck in
the mud at the moment :-(
Greetings Matthias
"theAdmin" <parsi...@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Unexpected Guest
I have a new info.
I tried the smtp server of the last mail account that I had not tested yet.
Recieving and sending mails went without problem. Changed to the smtp adress
of my ISP (it is a test account, no contract signed yet) - no mail sending.
How do I have to interpret this?
Greets Matthias
"Unexpected Guest" <plam...@yahoo.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Unexpected Guest
When using the smtp adress of t-online (my DSL provider) it works fast and
without problems.
Trying yahoo or all-inkl.de (the ISP I have my test account) the outgoing
mails stuck, no matter what prot I use.
Could it be, some smtp-servers do not accept "foreign" auth at all?
Thanks & Regards, Matthias
"Heiko Schlenker" <hsc...@gmx.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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>* Unexpected Guest <had...@yahoo.de> wrote:
>
>> I tried the smtp server of the last mail account that I had not tested
>> yet.
>> Recieving and sending mails went without problem. Changed to the smtp
>> adress
>> of my ISP (it is a test account, no contract signed yet) - no mail
>> sending.
>>
>> How do I have to interpret this?
>
> Maybe your ISP uses submission
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Mail_Transfer_Protocol> and
> uses port 587 for email message submission instead of port 25.
>
> Regards, Heiko
Unexpected Guest
officemail is working in combination with AT ;-)
Thanks! for your help.
The problem was: om got a separate Auth-ID option field, which I filled with
ID and password.But there's also a field called "Always use mail from". This
special field has to be filled with the mailadress you want to register to
the smtp-server with.
This I didn't know and found out only by trying. I believe this is also the
reason, why the programm smtp-auth didn't work. False mail identification to
the server.
Regards, Matthias
"Heiko Schlenker" <hsc...@gmx.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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>* Unexpected Guest <plam...@yahoo.de> wrote:
>
>> "Heiko Schlenker" <hsc...@gmx.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>>>* Unexpected Guest <had...@yahoo.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I tried the smtp server of the last mail account that I had not
>>>> tested yet. Recieving and sending mails went without problem.
>>>> Changed to the smtp adress of my ISP (it is a test account, no
>>>> contract signed yet) - no mail sending.
>>>>
>>>> How do I have to interpret this?
>>>
>>> Maybe your ISP uses submission
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Mail_Transfer_Protocol> and
>>> uses port 587 for email message submission instead of port 25.
>>
>> No, that does not solve the problem.
>>
>> When using the smtp adress of t-online (my DSL provider) it works fast
>> and
>> without problems.
>> Trying yahoo or all-inkl.de (the ISP I have my test account) the outgoing
>> mails stuck, no matter what prot I use.
>
> According to <http://all-inkl.com/index.php?open=faq&sek=wichtig>,
> all-inkl.{com,de} uses ports 25 and 587. Yahoo and T-Online, too.
>
> The SMTP-AUTH standard specifies several authentication methods.
> Probably you are trying a method that isn't supported by your ISP.
>
> Yahoo.de supports LOGIN, PLAIN and XYMCOOKIE:
> #v+
> hschlen@humbert:/home/hschlen
> > telnet smtp.mail.yahoo.de 25
> Trying 217.12.11.250...
> Connected to smtp-de.mail.vip.ukl.yahoo.com.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> 220 smtp141.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ESMTP
> EHLO example.net
> 250-smtp141.mail.ukl.yahoo.com
> 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN XYMCOOKIE
> 250-PIPELINING
> 250 8BITMIME
> QUIT
> 221 smtp141.mail.ukl.yahoo.com
> Connection closed by foreign host.
> #v-
>
> All-inkl.de supports LOGIN and PLAIN:
> #v+
> hschlen@humbert:/home/hschlen
> > telnet smtp.all-inkl.de 25
> Trying 85.13.128.193...
> Connected to smtp.all-inkl.de.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> 220 dd10.kasserver.com ESMTP
> EHLO example.net
> 250-dd10.kasserver.com
> 250-PIPELINING
> 250-SIZE 102400000
> 250-VRFY
> 250-ETRN
> 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN
> 250-AUTH=LOGIN PLAIN
> 250 8BITMIME
> QUIT
> 221 Bye
> Connection closed by foreign host.
> #v-
>
> T-Online.de supports LOGIN and PLAIN:
> #v+
> hschlen@humbert:/home/hschlen
> > telnet smtpmail.t-online.de 25
> Trying 194.25.134.115...
> Connected to smtpmail.t-online.de.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> 220 fwd02.t-online.de T-Online ESMTP receiver fmsad1725 ready. /
> T-Online ESMTP receiver smtpmail.t-online.de ready.
> EHLO example.net
> 250-fwd02.t-online.de ready.
> 250-SIZE 52428800
> 250-8BITMIME
> 250-AUTH=LOGIN PLAIN
> 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN
> 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
> 250 HELP
> quit
> 221 2.0.0 fwd02.t-online.de closing. / Closing.
> Connection closed by foreign host.
> #v-
>
> Regards, Heiko