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LizzieW82

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Apr 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/19/98
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A while back, I proposed a tournament in the martial arts and fighting.
Well, Dammie proposed it, and I volunteered for the hosting job. The Political
situation here seems to be stabilzing, a vast majority favor Prince Vladimir,
sabbat and Cam alike.
Anyways, I pulled a few favors in and he okay'd it. We have a lovely ranch
area that is a form of Elysium. (I'll explain the rules of it in the offical
invatiation) He says we can use that. And a good friend of mine, Opuim, a
sabbat toredor, has offered her club Opuim's Den as a opening night party. So,
the basic plan right now is to have a welcome to the area/introduction thing at
Opuim's Den and then the next night have a tournament/showcase at the ranch.
The tenitive date is some time in June, one of the first two weekends
perhaps. Are there a serious number of us who will be unable to attend? Any
worries, ideas, concerns, thoughts etc?
I can provide a few havens for some of you if nessicary, though you will be
staying in the same building as a couple of my pupils and at least three other
kindred. (This may make some nervous, but I vouch for your safety)

V. Dawn-Runner
"And well, if you can't show off in the presence of God, what fucking good is
it?"TSM
Gothcode v3.1 available upon request

Simon Magid

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On 19 Apr 1998 20:46:21 GMT, lizz...@aol.com (LizzieW82) wrote:

> A while back, I proposed a tournament in the martial arts and fighting.
>Well, Dammie proposed it, and I volunteered for the hosting job. The Political
>situation here seems to be stabilzing, a vast majority favor Prince Vladimir,
>sabbat and Cam alike.
> Anyways, I pulled a few favors in and he okay'd it. We have a lovely ranch
>area that is a form of Elysium. (I'll explain the rules of it in the offical
>invatiation) He says we can use that. And a good friend of mine, Opuim, a
>sabbat toredor, has offered her club Opuim's Den as a opening night party. So,
>the basic plan right now is to have a welcome to the area/introduction thing at
>Opuim's Den and then the next night have a tournament/showcase at the ranch.
> The tenitive date is some time in June, one of the first two weekends
>perhaps. Are there a serious number of us who will be unable to attend? Any
>worries, ideas, concerns, thoughts etc?

* * * * * * * * * *

Well, pal, I'd love to attend but I can't fight worth a damn, so I'd
just make a laughingstock of myself if I turned up. Thanks for the
invite, though.

Yvette, Anarch

* * * * * * * * * *

Whether I can attend will depend on the will of my liege. But if she
gives me permission to join you, I should be greatly honoured to
accept your invitation.

Henrik, Tzimisce

* * * * * * * * * *

I will come if I can, but I greatly fear I shall be unable to manage,
as there is a Council meeting scheduled for that time. I cannot afford
to miss it, as my continued membership of the Order will be examined
during it...

Octavian Iliescu

* * * * * * * * * *

I cannot personally attend, but I mentioned it to a friend of mine.
She responded, 'An idiot should I be, to refuse an opportunity like
that one! Tell her that I accept...'

Martin Hiller, Hamburg
Brujah Iconoclast

* * * * * * * * * *

OOC: I'm away near the end of June (going to Bamberg in Germany), and
probably also at the start of July (Hopefully I'll be in the US by
then! :) ). With luck I'll still have at least partial Internet
capability most of the time...

Simon

Webwalker

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Apr 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/20/98
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Huh? I don't get it. What'd LizzieW82 mean by:

> A while back, I proposed a tournament in the martial arts and fighting.
> Well, Dammie proposed it, and I volunteered for the hosting job. The Political
> situation here seems to be stabilzing, a vast majority favor Prince Vladimir,
> sabbat and Cam alike.
> Anyways, I pulled a few favors in and he okay'd it. We have a lovely ranch
> area that is a form of Elysium. (I'll explain the rules of it in the offical
> invatiation) He says we can use that. And a good friend of mine, Opuim, a
> sabbat toredor, has offered her club Opuim's Den as a opening night party. So,
> the basic plan right now is to have a welcome to the area/introduction thing at
> Opuim's Den and then the next night have a tournament/showcase at the ranch.
> The tenitive date is some time in June, one of the first two weekends
> perhaps. Are there a serious number of us who will be unable to attend? Any
> worries, ideas, concerns, thoughts etc?

Argh. I'd _LOVE_ to attend, but I've got my own tourney to attend with my
kids both weekends, one in Vancouver and one in Fresno. Maybe if it could be
postponed by a couple of weeks...?) And Bryce has some kind of Pander
retreat or camping trip or Mutt-Bonding trip or something like that in
June, so he couldn't attend either. :(

(ooc: I'm going to be away for a May and June, earning my tuition for next
year, but if it's delayed till the beginning of July... otherwise, I'll
just wait till it comes 'round again. :) )

> I can provide a few havens for some of you if nessicary, though you will be
> staying in the same building as a couple of my pupils and at least three other
> kindred. (This may make some nervous, but I vouch for your safety)

No prob, for me.

> V. Dawn-Runner

Tasia

Luke Slater

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Apr 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/20/98
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On Sun, 19 Apr 1998, Simon Magid wrote:

> A while back, I proposed a tournament in the martial arts and fighting.
>Well, Dammie proposed it, and I volunteered for the hosting job. The Political
>situation here seems to be stabilzing, a vast majority favor Prince Vladimir,
>sabbat and Cam alike.
> Anyways, I pulled a few favors in and he okay'd it. We have a lovely ranch
>area that is a form of Elysium. (I'll explain the rules of it in the offical
>invatiation) He says we can use that. And a good friend of mine, Opuim, a
>sabbat toredor, has offered her club Opuim's Den as a opening night party. So,
>the basic plan right now is to have a welcome to the area/introduction thing at
>Opuim's Den and then the next night have a tournament/showcase at the ranch.
> The tenitive date is some time in June, one of the first two weekends
>perhaps. Are there a serious number of us who will be unable to attend? Any
>worries, ideas, concerns, thoughts etc?

* * *

Alas; although I should very much like to attend, I will be unable
to do so, having pressing buisness elsewhere. My regrets,
Radziwicz Schaerzeneschu.

* * *

Dear Ms Dawnrunner,
It is with the sincerest regret that I must decline your
invitation. My duties at the Chantry prevent me from taking much time out,
and I will not be able to make it.
Angelica.

* * *

I'd love to come, really. Unfortunately, I'm truly dire at all
forms of combat, armed and otherwise, having a shite belt in tai kwan
don't. Sorry, but I can't really afford the cost of travel just to
humiliate myself.
Michaeli Giovanni.

* * *

I'm afraid that something has come up, forcing me to decline your
invitation. Sorry love; maybe next time.
Pike.

* * *

Regretfully, I am going to be very busy in Sydney for a few
months, even if I could fight worth a damn, so I must decline.
Ash.

* * *

OOC: Unfortunately, I really don't think I can afford to bring any
of my characters to a party in exam term, especially as I'd almost
certainly miss the end of it. Still; try to have fun without me ::-)
Luke.

"Look ma! No brains!"


Rev. Connie Armchair

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Apr 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/20/98
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In article <199804192046...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, LizzieW82
<lizz...@aol.com> writes

> A while back, I proposed a tournament in the martial arts and fighting.
>Well, Dammie proposed it, and I volunteered for the hosting job. The Political
>situation here seems to be stabilzing, a vast majority favor Prince Vladimir,
>sabbat and Cam alike.
> Anyways, I pulled a few favors in and he okay'd it. We have a lovely ranch
>area that is a form of Elysium. (I'll explain the rules of it in the offical
>invatiation) He says we can use that. And a good friend of mine, Opuim, a
>sabbat toredor, has offered her club Opuim's Den as a opening night party. So,
>the basic plan right now is to have a welcome to the area/introduction thing at
>Opuim's Den and then the next night have a tournament/showcase at the ranch.
> The tenitive date is some time in June, one of the first two weekends
>perhaps. Are there a serious number of us who will be unable to attend? Any
>worries, ideas, concerns, thoughts etc?
> I can provide a few havens for some of you if nessicary, though you will be
>staying in the same building as a couple of my pupils and at least three other
>kindred. (This may make some nervous, but I vouch for your safety)
>
>V. Dawn-Runner
>"And well, if you can't show off in the presence of God, what fucking good is
>it?"TSM
> Gothcode v3.1 available upon request

Er, I'll decline due to being a physical retard, as will Tony (so he
just mumbled). If you need an independent observer though we'd be happy
to help. I'm very good at holding clipboards and stuff :)

- Rev. "Connie" Armchair.
- Now Proper Official Resident of The Camerilla City of Leeds.
- Holder of The Red Rubber Book Made of Toast.
- :) always.

- Visit us at Vinici's site at
http://members.tripod.com/~Mr_Ben/index-2.html
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- undoutably MaLkAvIaN

Sandra

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Apr 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/20/98
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On 19 Apr 1998 20:46:21 GMT, lizz...@aol.com (LizzieW82) wrote:

> A while back, I proposed a tournament in the martial arts and fighting.
>Well, Dammie proposed it, and I volunteered for the hosting job. The Political
>situation here seems to be stabilzing, a vast majority favor Prince Vladimir,
>sabbat and Cam alike.
> Anyways, I pulled a few favors in and he okay'd it. We have a lovely ranch
>area that is a form of Elysium. (I'll explain the rules of it in the offical
>invatiation) He says we can use that. And a good friend of mine, Opuim, a
>sabbat toredor, has offered her club Opuim's Den as a opening night party. So,
>the basic plan right now is to have a welcome to the area/introduction thing at
>Opuim's Den and then the next night have a tournament/showcase at the ranch.
> The tenitive date is some time in June, one of the first two weekends
>perhaps. Are there a serious number of us who will be unable to attend? Any
>worries, ideas, concerns, thoughts etc?
> I can provide a few havens for some of you if nessicary, though you will be
>staying in the same building as a couple of my pupils and at least three other
>kindred. (This may make some nervous, but I vouch for your safety)
>
>V. Dawn-Runner


Cana come nefer be der?

Sandra (Possibly Malkavian) ...Ummmm whas Malkavian?


LizzieW82

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Apr 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/20/98
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::Sheepish grin:: Well, my flair for the perfect lack of timing sufaces again.
So, over all June is a really bad time. Any suggestions. Vlad left it
deliberatly open ended time wise, the bastard probably was taking bets on how
much I changed the scheduale.
And for all of you who begged off claiming no talent, doesn't float. Come
watch, come socialize, show off in some other talent. God knows fighting is my
thing, but Serena just started laughing at me when I suggested teaching her.
And also, if nothing else, there will be a gathering the night before. Come
to that. The term tournament is misleading. Shall I say showcase instead?
Party? Take your pick.
V. Dawn-Runner

((OOC: Gotcha that June is bad, suggestions? I was thinking then cause I am out
of school, but I have plenty of free time till at least December.))

Simon Magid

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On 20 Apr 1998 22:01:18 GMT, lizz...@aol.com (LizzieW82) wrote:

>::Sheepish grin:: Well, my flair for the perfect lack of timing sufaces again.
>So, over all June is a really bad time. Any suggestions. Vlad left it
>deliberatly open ended time wise, the bastard probably was taking bets on how
>much I changed the scheduale.

Shit happens, Val. Don't worry, _I_ think August or September will be
soon enough. Remember, some people here will be leaving later in the
summer. Too, June, July and early August tends to be quiet months.
Prolly because the nights are a bit short that time of the year...

> And for all of you who begged off claiming no talent, doesn't float. Come
>watch,

Maybe.

> come socialize,

_Me_? Socialise? Can't I just show and be offensive the way I usually
am? <eg>

> show off in some other talent.

OK. I'll bring Hannibal and show my skill at elephant dressage. <g>

> God knows fighting is my
>thing, but Serena just started laughing at me when I suggested teaching her.
> And also, if nothing else, there will be a gathering the night before. Come
>to that. The term tournament is misleading. Shall I say showcase instead?
>Party? Take your pick.

Tournament is OK; it's just that we need to be _careful_ about weight
classes, so to speak. I do _not_ consider it a fair fight to match
myself against Radziwicz, for example...

Unless I get to choose weapons and shoot first from behind. In that
case, I'll be using cluster bombs. <g>

>V. Dawn-Runner

>((OOC: Gotcha that June is bad, suggestions? I was thinking then cause I am out
>of school, but I have plenty of free time till at least December.))

[OOC: As above. _I_ would like some time to relax and to work on the
party FAQ...]

Simon

Detective VanDam

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Apr 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/20/98
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Dear Valkeryrie Dawn-Runner,

In order to arrange for leave from my duties, I will need as much notice as
possible. The Precinct is booking vacations for the summer and I, despite my
age, do not have high seniority on the force. Please forward my invitation
to Cafe' Rose de la Nuit. I will be residing at the Order of AGVTM until I
can prepare a suitable haven.

I will require minimum one weeks notice, as I intend to travel to Phoenix by
rail. If there is a siding near the ranch that you might recommend, could
you include this information. I have a specially prepared car, that can
easily accommodate other Cainites who would require transportation. I will
require advanced notice to include ensure a safe and timely arrival.

Det. VanDam

David Townsend

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> A while back, I proposed a tournament in the martial arts and fighting.
> Well, Dammie proposed it, and I volunteered for the hosting job. The Political
> situation here seems to be stabilzing, a vast majority favor Prince Vladimir,
> sabbat and Cam alike.
> Anyways, I pulled a few favors in and he okay'd it. We have a lovely ranch
> area that is a form of Elysium. (I'll explain the rules of it in the offical
> invatiation) He says we can use that. And a good friend of mine, Opuim, a
> sabbat toredor, has offered her club Opuim's Den as a opening night party. So,
> the basic plan right now is to have a welcome to the area/introduction thing at
> Opuim's Den and then the next night have a tournament/showcase at the ranch.
> The tenitive date is some time in June, one of the first two weekends
> perhaps. Are there a serious number of us who will be unable to attend? Any
> worries, ideas, concerns, thoughts etc?
> I can provide a few havens for some of you if nessicary, though you will be
> staying in the same building as a couple of my pupils and at least three other
> kindred. (This may make some nervous, but I vouch for your safety)
>
> V. Dawn-Runner

> "And well, if you can't show off in the presence of God, what fucking good is
> it?"TSM
> Gothcode v3.1 available upon request

Whilst I would be happy to attend, not anticipating anything other
than a sound drubbibg, it rather appears that the timing might well
be awkward. I will attend as and when it is arranged, other
commitments allowing, naturally.

Lord Strange.


Webwalker

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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Huh? I don't get it. What'd Val mean by:

> ::Sheepish grin:: Well, my flair for the perfect lack of timing sufaces again.
> So, over all June is a really bad time. Any suggestions. Vlad left it
> deliberatly open ended time wise, the bastard probably was taking bets on how
> much I changed the scheduale.

Hows about September? The summers's really bad for me. All the kids are
out of school, and I'm going to be swamped. All that work to do, and so
much less time to do it in... argh!

> And for all of you who begged off claiming no talent, doesn't float. Come

> watch, come socialize, show off in some other talent. God knows fighting is my


> thing, but Serena just started laughing at me when I suggested teaching her.
> And also, if nothing else, there will be a gathering the night before. Come
> to that.

Wouldn't miss it. And this time, (if I remember correctly) there _will_
be a Truce in effect for the city, not just the Elysium, right?

> The term tournament is misleading. Shall I say showcase instead?
> Party? Take your pick.

Exhibition? Did you see the gymnastics exhibitions after the summer games
a couple years back? Maybe that kind of thing?

> V. Dawn-Runner

Tasia

> ((OOC: Gotcha that June is bad, suggestions? I was thinking then cause I am out
> of school, but I have plenty of free time till at least December.))

--
"Life is a ladder for climbing the wall
The higher you go the further you fall."
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SFryar

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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In article <199804192046...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, lizz...@aol.com
(LizzieW82) writes:

>A while back, I proposed a tournament in the martial arts and fighting.
>Well, Dammie proposed it, and I volunteered for the hosting job. The
>Political
>situation here seems to be stabilzing, a vast majority favor Prince Vladimir,
>sabbat and Cam alike.
> Anyways, I pulled a few favors in and he okay'd it. We have a lovely ranch
>area that is a form of Elysium. (I'll explain the rules of it in the offical
>invatiation) He says we can use that. And a good friend of mine, Opuim, a
>sabbat toredor, has offered her club Opuim's Den as a opening night party.
>So,
>the basic plan right now is to have a welcome to the area/introduction thing
>at
>Opuim's Den and then the next night have a tournament/showcase at the ranch.
> The tenitive date is some time in June, one of the first two weekends
>perhaps. Are there a serious number of us who will be unable to attend? Any
>worries, ideas, concerns, thoughts etc?
> I can provide a few havens for some of you if nessicary, though you will be
>staying in the same building as a couple of my pupils and at least three
>other
>kindred. (This may make some nervous, but I vouch for your safety)
>

Sounds like a lot of fun and I'd love to attend, Valkyrie, but... operating the
Cafe Rose de la Nuit, along with the business of the Primogen, will be taking
up most of my time, and it would be difficult for me to get away. Good luck
and have fun, though!

Charmaine
--------------------------------------------

As much as the tournament sounds like a lot of fun, Micki Channing has
"persuaded" me to get her security staff at Sanctuary whipped into shape, and
it's going to take a while to get them together. I'll also be attending a
Brujah Rant in New Orleans (I think) sometime in June, so, I must regretfully
decline your invitation, Ms. Dawn-Runner. Good luck with it, and it if goes
well, perhaps I might be able to attend next year's tournament. A Sheriff's
work is never done... <sigh>

Anthony
---------------------------------------------

Your martial arts tournament sounds cool, Valkyrie! Although I can't fight
very well (Anthony can really kick some serious butt, tho'), I'd love to come
down and see what's going on. Charmaine and Anthony are going to have their
hands full when the tourists show up this summer, and it'll be nice to get away
for a while from those _boring_ Ventrue Directorate meetings! Count me in!

Natalie Beaumont


Detective VanDam

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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>::Sheepish grin:: Well, my flair for the perfect lack of timing sufaces
again.
>So, over all June is a really bad time. Any suggestions. Vlad left it
>deliberatly open ended time wise, the bastard probably was taking bets on
how
>much I changed the scheduale.
> And for all of you who begged off claiming no talent, doesn't float.
Come
>watch, come socialize, show off in some other talent. God knows fighting
is my
>thing, but Serena just started laughing at me when I suggested teaching
her.
> And also, if nothing else, there will be a gathering the night before.
Come
>to that. The term tournament is misleading. Shall I say showcase instead?
>Party? Take your pick.
>V. Dawn-Runner
>
Members of the Order of AGVTM,

Vallyrie Dawn-Runner is hosting a Tournament, or what ever she wishes to
call her social event. We as members of the Order are obligated to attend,
if for not other reason, than to watch Yvette's nuke-em fireworks display.
<shudder>

I have never seen Vallyrie Dawn-Runner, display her martial skills. As luck
would have it, I was not at the Garou battle in Copenhagen, nor able to
assist in saving Yvette, in Chicago. This is the first martial event that I
will have attended in the New World and the first to be exclusively vampire
in nature.

The Opium Den, sounds like a highlight event. Though my stock of fine single
malt scotches, and Cuban cigars were destroyed with my haven. I was able to
recover a fine set of pearl handled six shooters, and silver spirs. It has
been several centuries since I have been on a horse, and I for one intend to
have some fun at the ranch.

Who knows, Vallyrie Dawn-Runner might have a secret barbecue sauce that we
can all try to guess the recipe. We all know how much fun these Parties can
be. I intend to ask Charmaine if she will teach me a few square dance steps
before the party begins. If you are worried about being embarrassed, just
come and watch an Elder square dance for the first time.

Det. VanDam

Luke Slater

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Simon Magid wrote:

> On 20 Apr 1998 22:01:18 GMT, lizz...@aol.com (LizzieW82) wrote:
>
>

> >((OOC: Gotcha that June is bad, suggestions? I was thinking then cause I am out
> >of school, but I have plenty of free time till at least December.))
>

> [OOC: As above. _I_ would like some time to relax and to work on the
> party FAQ...]
>

(OOC: Just for myself, I can not possibly attend anything before
October, since I have no Internet access at home.)
Luke.

"...that means she's double-crossing God, who may or may not
exist, and in any case is capable of forgiveness. The Mafia definitely
exists, and hews to a higher standard of obediance."
- Neal Stephenson, "Snow Crash"


David Townsend

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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The message <6hh9hd$pvn$1...@news.igs.net>
from "Detective VanDam" <gaud...@windsor.igs.net> contains these words:


> >::Sheepish grin:: Well, my flair for the perfect lack of timing sufaces
> again.
> >So, over all June is a really bad time. Any suggestions. Vlad left it
> >deliberatly open ended time wise, the bastard probably was taking bets on
> how
> >much I changed the scheduale.
> > And for all of you who begged off claiming no talent, doesn't float.
> Come
> >watch, come socialize, show off in some other talent. God knows fighting
> is my
> >thing, but Serena just started laughing at me when I suggested teaching
> her.
> > And also, if nothing else, there will be a gathering the night before.
> Come
> >to that. The term tournament is misleading. Shall I say showcase instead?
> >Party? Take your pick.
> >V. Dawn-Runner
> >

Whatever you may care to call it, I am sure that it will be a
stunning success, what?

> Members of the Order of AGVTM,

> Vallyrie Dawn-Runner is hosting a Tournament, or what ever she wishes to
> call her social event. We as members of the Order are obligated to attend,
> if for not other reason, than to watch Yvette's nuke-em fireworks display.
> <shudder>

> I have never seen Vallyrie Dawn-Runner, display her martial skills. As luck
> would have it, I was not at the Garou battle in Copenhagen, nor able to
> assist in saving Yvette, in Chicago. This is the first martial event that I
> will have attended in the New World and the first to be exclusively vampire
> in nature.

> The Opium Den, sounds like a highlight event. Though my stock of fine single
> malt scotches, and Cuban cigars were destroyed with my haven. I was able to
> recover a fine set of pearl handled six shooters, and silver spirs. It has
> been several centuries since I have been on a horse, and I for one intend to
> have some fun at the ranch.

I had not realised that your losses were quite so serious. If you
would care to drop me a line as to your immeadiate needs in the
above, I can probably replace much from my personal stocks and others
I should be able to order for you. I had a short period of collecting
distilleries in Scotland and, whilst many have gone bankrupt, I still
own the contents of the vats and the warehouses.

> Who knows, Vallyrie Dawn-Runner might have a secret barbecue sauce that we
> can all try to guess the recipe. We all know how much fun these Parties can
> be. I intend to ask Charmaine if she will teach me a few square dance steps
> before the party begins. If you are worried about being embarrassed, just
> come and watch an Elder square dance for the first time.

If anybody square dances, I swear that I will make George teach you
all the Morris Dance, then you will be sorry <g>.

> Det. VanDam

Lord Strange


Mark Bradley

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Apr 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/22/98
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Aw, man, a fighting tournament...let me go put in my CD recording of "Kung
Fu Fighting". ;>

I wanna go, very much (even though I can't fight fer beans, I wanna watch),
but dang my amphalang, I'm _real_ busy right now. Be right back, gotta
check the Bunsen burner...

Okay, I'm back. (I have to time that reaction _just_ right, or the crap
just blows up. ;p) Maybe I can make the next go round; I'm not in any
position to pull any favors right now.

Good luck to all the gladiators!

Natalie

[OOC: Ironically, I have the time to 'go' to the tournament OOC, but Nat
doesn't IC. ]

Stephanie Bradley at...@netcom.com

Dominique LeLaert.

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Apr 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/22/98
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A fighting Tournament eh? one recalls the duels one took as a mere neonate to
win the affections of the Elders (I assume I am about to get flamed by ever
member of the Sabbat for that comment, however regardless of their age, they
had power and they had beauty, two things as a sterotypical Toreador, I should
not pass up.) Regardless, where would this Tournament take place? Far be if for
me to volunteer to go one to one with some of the more combat orientated clans
I am sure a spectator or two would be advisable. Especially one who hold no
tithe to any sect and may ensure no, unnecessary, blood is spilt. Would the
host to this barbarism please post a copy of the rules upon this forum for all
to see.

Dominique LeLaert,
Clan of the Rose.


Simon Magid

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On 22 Apr 1998 07:35:32 GMT, MJS...@bolton.ac.uk (Dominique LeLaert.)
wrote:

>A fighting Tournament eh? one recalls the duels one took as a mere neonate to
>win the affections of the Elders (I assume I am about to get flamed

Ask, and ye shall receive. <eg>

> by ever
>member of the Sabbat for that comment,

They'll have to line up behind _me_, _I_ get first dibs on you.

Taking duels to impress your Elders? Oh great. Do me a favour and tell
me that they _weren't_ to the death, that you _didn't_ kill either
other Neonates or any hapless mortals pulled in for some of the
Elder's sicko little games. I'm assuming that, but even so, I'd like
confirmation.

And as for fun-and-games style duels to impress the Elders... well, if
you want to play circus clown it's your privilege. _I_ wouldn't, I
never had much dignity and what little I have is usually in tatters,
but I'd damn well draw the line there.

> however regardless of their age, they
>had power and they had beauty,

Well my Sire had _one_ of these at least. <g>

> two things as a sterotypical Toreador, I should
>not pass up.)

Ah, can't say as I blame you. If I could get a go at grabbing some of
the Elders' power (OK, let's be honest here, cash) I'd go for it, too.
<eg>

> Regardless, where would this Tournament take place? Far be if for
>me to volunteer to go one to one with some of the more combat orientated clans
>I am sure a spectator or two would be advisable. Especially one who hold no
>tithe to any sect and may ensure no, unnecessary, blood is spilt.

Hey, cool idea. I'll try to get hold of Stefan and see if he'll be
judge. I hope the poor fool hasn't gotten himself killed...

> Would the
>host to this barbarism

Heh. Great. This _isn't_ a display to feed the egos of the Elders, and
it immediately turns into 'barbarism'. Gah.

> please post a copy of the rules upon this forum for all
>to see.

Sorta a good point, really. I still think we might do well to postpone
it for a while, though.

>
>Dominique LeLaert,
>Clan of the Rose.

Yvette, Anarch

Dominique LeLaert.

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Let us cast our minds back to the yesr 1752 shall we? I was quite an age then
by todays standards but at that time and in europe one of my years was still
considered a neonate next to the likes of Mithras and others. Anyway, the city
was Florence, a marvellous city of deep peach rooftops and sandy cobbled
streets and I was in love, in love with my sire (as most Toreador are, and I
was no exception). However my perfect city and perfect existance was not
complete. My Sire, Marian had a suitor. Mr Henry Morgan (who for those of you
who like history was once the governor of Jamaica and for those of you who
don't a welsh Toreador show off with a boat). Now, Henry and I we good
friends, why should we not be. He was the famous and charming captain and I
was talk of the town, my musings, mostly influenced by my homeland were very
popular and even my grandsire had visited one of my readings. However he too
had eyes for my sire, so naturally I challenged him. I was at the time (and
still am) lucky enough to hold a sabre of good spanish steel and was hoping to
dally with it to impress so I called upon a public duel, little knowing that
Henry could swash his buckler with the best of them. The duel started and much
to my suprise I was given the fight, Henry, the better man let me past his
guard and I was victorious. I helped my friend to his feet and we have been
good friends ever since. However to the point, this was not my first duel in
the fair city of Florence, a custom grew around our fight and in a similar way
to a courtly joust, Young Toreador, Brujah and a few Gangrel now every year
fight to first blood for the chance of prestige amongst there fellows. Hardly
the schemes of an evil Elder Yvette now is it? I am sure we can do much better
than that.

Dominique LeLaert,
Autarkis, one time Anarch, one time Primogen, once is quite enough for me.


Francessca di Gabrielle

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LizzieW82 wrote:
> ((OOC: Gotcha that June is bad, suggestions? I was thinking then cause I am out
> of school, but I have plenty of free time till at least December.))

OOC: Sure, I'll have Francessca show up - just to see what fate throws
in my path to (A) stop her from showing up on time and (B) disappearing
in the middle :) !


Kellie

Webwalker

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Dominique thought, and when the smoke cleared, this appeared:

> A fighting Tournament eh? one recalls the duels one took as a mere neonate to

> win the affections of the Elders (I assume I am about to get flamed by ever
> member of the Sabbat for that comment, however regardless of their age, they
> had power and they had beauty, two things as a sterotypical Toreador, I should
> not pass up.)

Actually, I can emphasize a bit with you. Trying to prove myself to the
leaders of my pack after my embrace ...

> Regardless, where would this Tournament take place? Far be if for
> me to volunteer to go one to one with some of the more combat orientated clans
> I am sure a spectator or two would be advisable. Especially one who hold no
> tithe to any sect and may ensure no, unnecessary, blood is spilt.

> Would the host to this barbarism please post a copy of the rules upon


> this forum for all to see.

Barbarism? You obviously haven't seen two black belt martial artists go
at it, then. I can almost guarentee that a good duel between two masters
would grab your attention, if not downright transfix you...

> Dominique LeLaert,
> Clan of the Rose.

Bryce Calhoun
Clan of the Platypus

Simon Magid

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On 22 Apr 1998 12:52:15 GMT, MJS...@bolton.ac.uk (Dominique LeLaert.)
wrote:

<stuff on dueling and Yvette's critique of it snipt>

>Let us cast our minds back to the yesr 1752 shall we?

1752? Hold on. Lemme check my history books. Sounds like it was just a
few years before the French Revolution and the time Paine, Voltaire,
Locke and various others began to formulate stuff like 'The Rights of
Man' and suchlike.

> I was quite an age then
>by todays standards but at that time and in europe one of my years was still
>considered a neonate next to the likes of Mithras and others.

I've got news for you, pal. My Sire Karl is three centuries old and
_he_ is still practically a Neonate next to Mithras. I saw the guy
from a distance once, and I don't believe how tough he was.

> Anyway, the city
>was Florence, a marvellous city of deep peach rooftops and sandy cobbled
>streets and I was in love, in love with my sire (as most Toreador are, and I
>was no exception).

Well, this is limited to Toreador in what way? I was in love with my
Sire too. My love soured after a while, though.

> However my perfect city and perfect existance was not
>complete.

Well they couldn't very well be perfect, then. <g>

> My Sire, Marian had a suitor. Mr Henry Morgan (who for those of you
>who like history was once the governor of Jamaica and for those of you who
>don't a welsh Toreador show off with a boat).

OK.

> Now, Henry and I we good
>friends, why should we not be.

Both of you being Toreador showoffs, you had common interests. <g>

> He was the famous and charming captain and I
>was talk of the town, my musings, mostly influenced by my homeland were very
>popular and even my grandsire had visited one of my readings. However he too
>had eyes for my sire, so naturally I challenged him.

Gah. Poor Marian. If it had been _me_ two cockerel had been fighting
over in that way I woulda left town and changed my name. I mean,
Yvette who falls swooningly into the arms of the guy who swished the
better penis, I mean saber. My rep woulda been ruined.

> I was at the time (and
>still am) lucky enough to hold a sabre of good spanish steel and was hoping to
>dally with it to impress so I called upon a public duel, little knowing that
>Henry could swash his buckler with the best of them. The duel started and much
>to my suprise I was given the fight, Henry, the better man let me past his
>guard and I was victorious.

Sorta nice of the guy. Even so, if _I_ had discovered that I had two
suitors and that they'd been fighting over me I'd have taken the
humiliation of it out of their hides. Gah.

> I helped my friend to his feet and we have been
>good friends ever since. However to the point, this was not my first duel in
>the fair city of Florence, a custom grew around our fight and in a similar way
>to a courtly joust, Young Toreador, Brujah and a few Gangrel now every year
>fight to first blood for the chance of prestige amongst there fellows. Hardly
>the schemes of an evil Elder Yvette now is it? I am sure we can do much better
>than that.

Well I admit that, and I also admit that what young people consider
fun and games today will prolly seem strange to the kids two centuries
from now. So you can duel if you like to, pal, _I_ won't stop you. <g>

>Dominique LeLaert,
>Autarkis, one time Anarch, one time Primogen, once is quite enough for me.

Yvette, Anarch

Dominique LeLaert.

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I have had a couple of flames for my Barbarism crack have I not? Well, I shall
not retract my statement until I see for my self what sort of event the host
has in mind, however I do agree that some forms of combat can be quite
enchanting to say the least. It does one good however to look at the worst
case senario once in a while, for then, one might be pleasently surpised when t
all turns out smelling of Roses.


>
>> Dominique LeLaert,
>> Clan of the Rose.
>
>Bryce Calhoun
>Clan of the Platypus

Dominique LeLaert,
Clan of the over critical, pompous, showy and pointless

Detective VanDam

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>>A fighting Tournament eh? one recalls the duels one took as a mere
neonate to
>>win the affections of the Elders (I assume I am about to get flamed
>
>Ask, and ye shall receive. <eg>
>
>> by ever
>>member of the Sabbat for that comment,
>
>They'll have to line up behind _me_, _I_ get first dibs on you.
>
>Taking duels to impress your Elders? Oh great. Do me a favour and tell
>me that they _weren't_ to the death, that you _didn't_ kill either
>other Neonates or any hapless mortals pulled in for some of the
>Elder's sicko little games. I'm assuming that, but even so, I'd like
>confirmation.
>
>And as for fun-and-games style duels to impress the Elders... well, if
>you want to play circus clown it's your privilege. _I_ wouldn't, I
>never had much dignity and what little I have is usually in tatters,
>but I'd damn well draw the line there.
>
>> however regardless of their age, they
>>had power and they had beauty,
>
>Well my Sire had _one_ of these at least. <g>
>
>> two things as a sterotypical Toreador, I should
>>not pass up.)
>
>Ah, can't say as I blame you. If I could get a go at grabbing some of
>the Elders' power (OK, let's be honest here, cash) I'd go for it, too.
><eg>
>
>> Regardless, where would this Tournament take place? Far be if for
>>me to volunteer to go one to one with some of the more combat orientated
clans
>>I am sure a spectator or two would be advisable. Especially one who hold
no
>>tithe to any sect and may ensure no, unnecessary, blood is spilt.
>
>Hey, cool idea. I'll try to get hold of Stefan and see if he'll be
>judge. I hope the poor fool hasn't gotten himself killed...
>
>> Would the
>>host to this barbarism
>
>Heh. Great. This _isn't_ a display to feed the egos of the Elders, and
>it immediately turns into 'barbarism'. Gah.
>
>> please post a copy of the rules upon this forum for all
>>to see.
>
>Sorta a good point, really. I still think we might do well to postpone
>it for a while, though.
>
>>
>>Dominique LeLaert,
>>Clan of the Rose.
>
>Yvette, Anarch

Gentlemen and Ladies,

This tournament would be the perfect test of the Party FAQ's so I agree we
should hold out until then.

Det. VanDam

LizzieW82

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MJS...@bolton.ac.uk (Dominique LeLaert.) threw down the gauntlet by saying:
<Snippage>

>however regardless of their age, they
>had power and they had beauty, two things as a sterotypical Toreador, I
>should
>not pass up.) Regardless, where would this Tournament take place?

It would take place on a ranch near the Superstition mountians of Arizona.
And the party the night before will be held at a underground nightclub run by a
friend, called Opium's Den.

Far be if
>for
>me to volunteer to go one to one with some of the more combat orientated
>clans
>I am sure a spectator or two would be advisable. Especially one who hold no

>tithe to any sect and may ensure no, unnecessary, blood is spilt. Would the
>host to this barbarism please post a copy of the rules upon this forum for
>all
>to see.

::Intense silence:: Mister LeLaert, to say I am offended would be an
understatment. First of all, if you had said you would like to view as you are
unsuited to battle then fine. Using your clan as an excuse is foolish. I am a
Toreador and damn proud of my art. Fighting is an old and respected art form.
And if you are attending solely to prevent "Unnessicary bloodshed" alone, then
feel free to stay where ever you are. If you wish to come to witness a display
of talents and socialize, then I would be proud to have you.
The tournament is of course going to be carefully structured to prevent
danger, it is to the first blood or touch (depending on the event). This is
not a chance for us to join and butcher each other.
And your lack of faith in sect's being able to hold true is sad. Perhaps you
should not come if you have a problem with other sects. We offically are
Camarilla, but they ignore our existance. We gladly welcome the Sabbat to us,
and the clanless. If you agree to uphold the Masquerade and obey the prince
then you can stay.

>Dominique LeLaert,
>Clan of the Rose.

V. Dawn-Runner
Toreador/Warrior/Artist/Counsler to the Prince/and mostly Offended

LizzieW82

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>"Detective VanDam"
<Snippage of my bit>

>Members of the Order of AGVTM,
>
>Vallyrie Dawn-Runner is hosting a Tournament, or what ever she wishes to
>call her social event. We as members of the Order are obligated to attend,
>if for not other reason, than to watch Yvette's nuke-em fireworks display.
><shudder>

I hate to say it, but there is a definate foot down on the nukes. Vlad would
rather not have the desert around here turn into a radioactive sheet of glass.

>I have never seen Vallyrie Dawn-Runner, display her martial skills. As luck
>would have it, I was not at the Garou battle in Copenhagen, nor able to
>assist in saving Yvette, in Chicago. This is the first martial event that I
>will have attended in the New World and the first to be exclusively vampire
>in nature.

Well.... to be honest, a few of my students are ghouls. They may or may not
be there, but they all are aware of what we are.

>The Opium Den, sounds like a highlight event. Though my stock of fine single
>malt scotches, and Cuban cigars were destroyed with my haven. I was able to
>recover a fine set of pearl handled six shooters, and silver spirs. It has
>been several centuries since I have been on a horse, and I for one intend to
>have some fun at the ranch.

Opium's Den is not a nice place. Rather, not upscale. It caters to younger
mortals, bikers, punks, goths, and the freaks who fit in nowhere. And of
course the counterparts of the above groups in the kindred society. But
unsuprisingly, with Opium's crack security team, there has never been any real
trouble. It probably will be a dead (pardon the pun) night as is, infact I
belive it will be invitation only. But there may be a few of the regulars
there at the beginining helping set up.

>Who knows, Vallyrie Dawn-Runner might have a secret barbecue sauce that we
>can all try to guess the recipe. We all know how much fun these Parties can
>be. I intend to ask Charmaine if she will teach me a few square dance steps
>before the party begins. If you are worried about being embarrassed, just
>come and watch an Elder square dance for the first time.

Um, no. I don't cook, no need too. I will have food there, but no cooked by
my hand. And I don't squaredance. In fact I don't know any kindred who do.

>Det. VanDam

V. Dawn-Runner

LizzieW82

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OOC: How does September sound to you all? Or if you want, we can just delay it
till October and make it the Halloween party. Either way. <g>

Spider

Detective VanDam

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>>>A fighting Tournament eh? one recalls the duels one took as a mere
neonate to
>>>win the affections of the Elders (I assume I am about to get flamed
>>
>>Ask, and ye shall receive. <eg>
>>
>>> by ever
>>>member of the Sabbat for that comment,
>>
>>They'll have to line up behind _me_, _I_ get first dibs on you.
>>
>>Taking duels to impress your Elders? Oh great. Do me a favour and tell
>>me that they _weren't_ to the death, that you _didn't_ kill either
>>other Neonates or any hapless mortals pulled in for some of the
>>Elder's sicko little games. I'm assuming that, but even so, I'd like
>>confirmation.
>>
>>And as for fun-and-games style duels to impress the Elders... well, if
>>you want to play circus clown it's your privilege. _I_ wouldn't, I
>>never had much dignity and what little I have is usually in tatters,
>>but I'd damn well draw the line there.
>>

>>> however regardless of their age, they
>>>had power and they had beauty,
>>

>>Well my Sire had _one_ of these at least. <g>
>>

>>> two things as a sterotypical Toreador, I should
>>>not pass up.)
>>

>>Ah, can't say as I blame you. If I could get a go at grabbing some of
>>the Elders' power (OK, let's be honest here, cash) I'd go for it, too.
>><eg>
>>

>>> Regardless, where would this Tournament take place? Far be if for


>>>me to volunteer to go one to one with some of the more combat orientated
clans
>>>I am sure a spectator or two would be advisable. Especially one who hold
no
>>>tithe to any sect and may ensure no, unnecessary, blood is spilt.
>>

>>Hey, cool idea. I'll try to get hold of Stefan and see if he'll be
>>judge. I hope the poor fool hasn't gotten himself killed...
>>

>>> Would the
>>>host to this barbarism
>>

>>Heh. Great. This _isn't_ a display to feed the egos of the Elders, and
>>it immediately turns into 'barbarism'. Gah.
>>

>>> please post a copy of the rules upon this forum for all
>>>to see.
>>

>>Sorta a good point, really. I still think we might do well to postpone
>>it for a while, though.
>>
>>>

>>>Dominique LeLaert,
>>>Clan of the Rose.
>>

>>Yvette, Anarch
>
>Let us cast our minds back to the yesr 1752 shall we? I was quite an age


then
>by todays standards but at that time and in europe one of my years was
still

>considered a neonate next to the likes of Mithras and others. Anyway, the


city
>was Florence, a marvellous city of deep peach rooftops and sandy cobbled
>streets and I was in love, in love with my sire (as most Toreador are, and
I

>was no exception). However my perfect city and perfect existance was not
>complete. My Sire, Marian had a suitor. Mr Henry Morgan (who for those of


you
>who like history was once the governor of Jamaica and for those of you who

>don't a welsh Toreador show off with a boat). Now, Henry and I we good
>friends, why should we not be. He was the famous and charming captain and


I
>was talk of the town, my musings, mostly influenced by my homeland were
very
>popular and even my grandsire had visited one of my readings. However he
too

>had eyes for my sire, so naturally I challenged him. I was at the time


(and
>still am) lucky enough to hold a sabre of good spanish steel and was hoping
to
>dally with it to impress so I called upon a public duel, little knowing
that
>Henry could swash his buckler with the best of them. The duel started and
much
>to my suprise I was given the fight, Henry, the better man let me past his

>guard and I was victorious. I helped my friend to his feet and we have been


>good friends ever since. However to the point, this was not my first duel
in
>the fair city of Florence, a custom grew around our fight and in a similar
way
>to a courtly joust, Young Toreador, Brujah and a few Gangrel now every year
>fight to first blood for the chance of prestige amongst there fellows.
Hardly
>the schemes of an evil Elder Yvette now is it? I am sure we can do much
better
>than that.
>

>Dominique LeLaert,
>Autarkis, one time Anarch, one time Primogen, once is quite enough for me.
>

I remember your beautiful city of Florence, thought it was many years
earlier. The City State of Florence was one of the most advanced of the
Italian Cities. I did not spend much time in Florence, I was one my way to
save an Elder, Lady Sheila, of Clan Toreador, from the abduction by her Sire
Romulus. Romulus had made his haven beneath the great Flavian Amphitheater,
or Colosseum, in Rome. But that's another story.

I was impressed by the some of the amazing buildings of Florence. Take the
octagonal Baptistery of St. John is across the square from the cathedral and
the bell tower. There was a well established Cainite community in that city
at the time that didn't like visitors borrowing from their herd. I think
they would have nailed me to one to he doors if they would have caught me. I
have not been back for since the turn of the millenium. Dominique LeLaert,
is the Baptistery of St. John still there?

Det. VanDam

Detective VanDam

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>> >::Sheepish grin:: Well, my flair for the perfect lack of timing sufaces
>> again.
>> >So, over all June is a really bad time. Any suggestions. Vlad left it
>> >deliberatly open ended time wise, the bastard probably was taking bets
on
>> how
>> >much I changed the scheduale.
>> > And for all of you who begged off claiming no talent, doesn't float.
>> Come
>> >watch, come socialize, show off in some other talent. God knows
fighting
>> is my
>> >thing, but Serena just started laughing at me when I suggested teaching
>> her.
>> > And also, if nothing else, there will be a gathering the night before.
>> Come
>> >to that. The term tournament is misleading. Shall I say showcase
instead?
>> >Party? Take your pick.
>> >V. Dawn-Runner
>> >
>
>Whatever you may care to call it, I am sure that it will be a
>stunning success, what?
>
>> Members of the Order of AGVTM,
>
>> Vallyrie Dawn-Runner is hosting a Tournament, or what ever she wishes to
>> call her social event. We as members of the Order are obligated to
attend,
>> if for not other reason, than to watch Yvette's nuke-em fireworks
display.
>> <shudder>
>
>> I have never seen Vallyrie Dawn-Runner, display her martial skills. As
luck
>> would have it, I was not at the Garou battle in Copenhagen, nor able to
>> assist in saving Yvette, in Chicago. This is the first martial event that
I
>> will have attended in the New World and the first to be exclusively
vampire
>> in nature.
>
>> The Opium Den, sounds like a highlight event. Though my stock of fine
single
>> malt scotches, and Cuban cigars were destroyed with my haven. I was able
to
>> recover a fine set of pearl handled six shooters, and silver spirs. It
has
>> been several centuries since I have been on a horse, and I for one intend
to
>> have some fun at the ranch.
>
>I had not realised that your losses were quite so serious. If you
>would care to drop me a line as to your immeadiate needs in the
>above, I can probably replace much from my personal stocks and others
>I should be able to order for you. I had a short period of collecting
>distilleries in Scotland and, whilst many have gone bankrupt, I still
>own the contents of the vats and the warehouses.
>
Dear Lord Strange,

Your offer is most generous and appreciated. Please forward the cases to
Cafe' Rose de la Nuit. The loss of many of my personnal collections did
reveal that I have not yet overcome the attachment to material possessions.
I can not beleive how the loss of so many one of a kind objects can tear a
riff so deep in my soul (that's if I have one).

Charmaine has been helping me collect the insurance money and search for a
suitable haven in the Chicago Area. I like the Rack area, but there are so
few buildings left with character. I hesitate to build new, I have been
eyeing an old theater, but it reminds me too much of my haven in Paris. I
have a church I in London and Belfast, Warehouse in Toronto and Torino, 16th
centry stone house in Quebec, freighter in Montreal, barn in Edinburgh,
winery in Bordeaux, light house in Aberdeen, wind mill in Antwerpen, cheese
shop in Holland, factory in Hamburg, Inn in Ruhr, novelty shop in
Manchester, book store in Birmingham, farmhouse in Nantes, manor in Lyon,
and a bordellow in Marseille.

I am looking for something unique, I thing the old brewery building that
went out of business during proabishion, that couldn't compete with Millers
Brewery out of Millwalkie may be the my new haven. I will place a bid in,
this week and see if the owner will part with the place. I understand it has
special cellars, designed to be packed with lake ice, to keep the beer cool
in the summer, before refridgeration was invented.


>> Who knows, Vallyrie Dawn-Runner might have a secret barbecue sauce that
we
>> can all try to guess the recipe. We all know how much fun these Parties
can
>> be. I intend to ask Charmaine if she will teach me a few square dance
steps
>> before the party begins. If you are worried about being embarrassed, just
>> come and watch an Elder square dance for the first time.
>

>If anybody square dances, I swear that I will make George teach you
>all the Morris Dance, then you will be sorry <g>.
>

I do not know how to do a Morris Dance. Is it a British favourite of yours?
Are you suggesting hosting a party at in Britan after Vallyrie
Dawn-Runner's, so that we may dance the Morris Dance?

>> Det. VanDam
>
>Lord Strange
>
Det. VanDam

Luke Slater

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On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Simon Magid wrote:

> On 22 Apr 1998 12:52:15 GMT, MJS...@bolton.ac.uk (Dominique LeLaert.)
> wrote:
>
> <stuff on dueling and Yvette's critique of it snipt>
>

> >Let us cast our minds back to the yesr 1752 shall we?
>

> 1752? Hold on. Lemme check my history books. Sounds like it was just a
> few years before the French Revolution and the time Paine, Voltaire,
> Locke and various others began to formulate stuff like 'The Rights of
> Man' and suchlike.
>

> > I was quite an age then
> >by todays standards but at that time and in europe one of my years was still
> >considered a neonate next to the likes of Mithras and others.
>

> I've got news for you, pal. My Sire Karl is three centuries old and
> _he_ is still practically a Neonate next to Mithras. I saw the guy
> from a distance once, and I don't believe how tough he was.
>

Well most of us are Neonates compared to Mithras, so... Woah! You
_saw_ him? I didn't think he'd been around since before the turn of the
century! Shit!

> Yvette, Anarch

Angelica, very worried High Warden of St Pancras.

Dominique LeLaert.

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My dear Sir,
Firstly I write to you to bid my humblest of apologise for my snipe at
your idea to hold a tournament. However you must understand my sceptism. I
hold no lack of faith in your Sect sirrah, and wish you to know that I hold no
allegiance to any group that I may care to mention. I might mention that if I
had any lack of faith in the sabbat or the Camarilla of fulfill it's ideologies
to the letter I would not have invited both to my house in the first advertised
meeting of newsgroup kindred. Secondly, I would never use my clan for an
excuse to my lack of ability in any event, but it would be blind not to
recognise that simple fact that even though as a clan we are just as capable at
combat as any of the others, our Elders would be, let us say, most atypical to
embraces someone just for their fighting potential. I will no deny this
practice does occur (and I for one have no qualms against any choice one should
make for a childer) but you have to admit that it is rare within our clan. I am
not unknown to the rules of engagement myself and as the fashion dueled many a
night with my peers at the peek of the eighteenth century. Regardless, closing
my comment of Barbarism was unwarranted, however I do stand by my arms to the
fact that all bloodshed, be it on the field of honour or otherwise is, if not
for sustinance, unnecessary. I wish only to be reasurred, as simple as that.
I am sure I will not be the only one who will need to be convinced but hope we
could speak on the topics we disagree on at your gathering. I find it so
tiresome if everybody agrees in gestalt fashion, do you not?

Yours,
Dominique LeLaert,
Toreador.

SFryar

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In article <6hh9hd$pvn$1...@news.igs.net>, "Detective VanDam"
<gaud...@windsor.igs.net> writes:

<earlier tournament stuff snipped....>

>Members of the Order of AGVTM,
>
>Vallyrie Dawn-Runner is hosting a Tournament, or what ever she wishes to
>call her social event. We as members of the Order are obligated to attend,
>if for not other reason, than to watch Yvette's nuke-em fireworks display.
><shudder>

Considering that the fireworks display at the Grand Opening of the Cafe' Rose
de la Nuit didn't go as planned... this display should be interesting to watch.

>I have never seen Vallyrie Dawn-Runner, display her martial skills. As luck
>would have it, I was not at the Garou battle in Copenhagen, nor able to
>assist in saving Yvette, in Chicago. This is the first martial event that I
>will have attended in the New World and the first to be exclusively vampire
>in nature.

Okay, VanDam... ya got me! I almost forgot that I'm the Lord of the Dance of
the Order of the AGVTM, and therefore, I must be in attendance. I'll see if I
can get out of attending Rant '98 in New Orleans. To be honest... the last
really great Rant was back in 1995 when The Grateful Dead played their final
concert in Chicago. The Rants during the last couple of years have been so
boring, and they weren't much fun.

>The Opium Den, sounds like a highlight event. Though my stock of fine single
>malt scotches, and Cuban cigars were destroyed with my haven. I was able to
>recover a fine set of pearl handled six shooters, and silver spirs. It has
>been several centuries since I have been on a horse, and I for one intend to
>have some fun at the ranch.

Hmmm... Charmaine can help you with that, Detective. Prince Jonathan is
scheduled to visit Toronto next week to attend a meeting of the stockholders of
a well-known corporation. She could persuade him to bring back a box of cigars
and a case of fine single-malt scotch for you before he returns to Chicago.

>Who knows, Vallyrie Dawn-Runner might have a secret barbecue sauce that we
>can all try to guess the recipe. We all know how much fun these Parties can
>be. I intend to ask Charmaine if she will teach me a few square dance steps
>before the party begins. If you are worried about being embarrassed, just
>come and watch an Elder square dance for the first time.

Well, if Charmaine can't help you with those square dance steps, VanDam... I'd
be more than willing to try. <BG>

>Det. VanDam

Anthony Balthazar
Sheriff of Chicago
Lord of the Dance of the Order of AGTVM

Webwalker

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LizzieW82 thought, and when the smoke cleared, this appeared:

> OOC: How does September sound to you all? Or if you want, we can just delay it
> till October and make it the Halloween party. Either way. <g>

Sept is good for me. Anytime during the school year is good for me. :)

Luke Slater

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On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Detective VanDam wrote:

<SNIP>


> >If anybody square dances, I swear that I will make George teach
you
> >all the Morris Dance, then you will be sorry <g>.
> >
> I do not know how to do a Morris Dance. Is it a British favourite of yours?
> Are you suggesting hosting a party at in Britan after Vallyrie
> Dawn-Runner's, so that we may dance the Morris Dance?
>

Oh my God! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Damn your black heart George Fletcher. And as for you Van Dam.
You even think such a thing again, and I swear I will not rest until your
head adorns a wooden stick being bashed against another by two men with
bells on their ankles.
Michaeli Giovanni.

Simon Magid

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On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 00:50:57 +0100, Luke Slater <lj...@cam.ac.uk>
wrote:

>On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Simon Magid wrote:

>> I've got news for you, pal. My Sire Karl is three centuries old and
>> _he_ is still practically a Neonate next to Mithras. I saw the guy
>> from a distance once, and I don't believe how tough he was.
>>
> Well most of us are Neonates compared to Mithras, so... Woah! You
>_saw_ him? I didn't think he'd been around since before the turn of the
>century! Shit!

Well my _Grandsire_ said it was him anyway. She might have been lying
-- I can't rule that out, of course, she is like that -- but
considering that it was at a salon where you couldn't *spit* without
hitting Ventrue who were at least five centuries older than God I
wouldn't be willing to bet that it _wasn't_ him, either.

He was only present for about sixty seconds. All he did was to enter
the room and look a bit at all of us for a while, whisper something
into the ears of the Spaniard, and then leave. The way _every_ Ventrue
in the room fell silent when he entered and didn't start talking again
until a minute after he left seems to indicate to me that he was
_somebody_ they respected. After the Salon, I asked Bess who he was,
and she told me it was Mithras.

She _might_ have been shitting me. You never know, not with her. But
she might not have been, too.

> Angelica, very worried High Warden of St Pancras.

I don't blame you. He scared the shit out of _me_ too.

Yvette, Anarch

Sandra

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On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 23:10:40 +0100, David Townsend
<davidt...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

>> > ::Sheepish grin:: Well, my flair for the perfect lack of timing sufaces again.
>> > So, over all June is a really bad time. Any suggestions. Vlad left it
>> > deliberatly open ended time wise, the bastard probably was taking bets on how
>> > much I changed the scheduale.
>> >
>> > And for all of you who begged off claiming no talent, doesn't float. Come
>> > watch, come socialize, show off in some other talent. God knows fighting is my
>> > thing, but Serena just started laughing at me when I suggested teaching her.
>> > And also, if nothing else, there will be a gathering the night before.
>> > Come to that. The term tournament is misleading. Shall I say showcase instead?
>> > Party? Take your pick.
>> > V. Dawn-Runner
>> >
>
>Whatever you may care to call it, I am sure that it will be a
>stunning success, what?

You can count me in its been to long since I attended such and event
to many seem to run by the hours of light, If you'll book me a short
slot somewhere for a short demonstration I'll come prepared. In any
case it may prove an invaluable opportunity to some of you.

Lady Jane

SFryar

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In article <6hm2l2$u5$1...@news.igs.net>, "Detective VanDam"
<gaud...@windsor.igs.net> writes:

<other stuff about the tournament snipped...>

>>> Members of the Order of AGVTM,

>>> Vallyrie Dawn-Runner is hosting a Tournament, or what ever she wishes to
>>> call her social event. We as members of the Order are obligated to
>>>attend, if for not other reason, than to watch Yvette's nuke-em fireworks
>>>display. <shudder>

Just as long as dear Yvette keeps Hannibal on a leash... I can live with that.
;-)

>>> I have never seen Vallyrie Dawn-Runner, display her martial skills. As
>>>luck would have it, I was not at the Garou battle in Copenhagen, nor able
to
>>> assist in saving Yvette, in Chicago. This is the first martial event that
>>>I will have attended in the New World and the first to be exclusively
>>>vampire in nature.

<sigh...> I almost forgot about that... Since the Cafe' Rose de la Nuit does
house the Order of the AGVTM, I should be there, shouldn't I? <g>

>>> The Opium Den, sounds like a highlight event. Though my stock of fine
>>>single malt scotches, and Cuban cigars were destroyed with my haven. I was
able
>>>to recover a fine set of pearl handled six shooters, and silver spirs. It
>>>has been several centuries since I have been on a horse, and I for one
intend
>>>to have some fun at the ranch.

Oooooooh!!! Are you going to wear a cowboy hat, too, VanDam? I would love to
see you in your best cowboy outfit... <sweet smile>

>>I had not realised that your losses were quite so serious. If you
>>would care to drop me a line as to your immeadiate needs in the
>>above, I can probably replace much from my personal stocks and others
>>I should be able to order for you. I had a short period of collecting
>>distilleries in Scotland and, whilst many have gone bankrupt, I still
>>own the contents of the vats and the warehouses.

Prince Jonathan is going to Toronto next week, and he'd be happy to bring back
some Cuban cigars and a case of single-malt scotch for you....

>Dear Lord Strange,
>
>Your offer is most generous and appreciated. Please forward the cases to
>Cafe' Rose de la Nuit. The loss of many of my personnal collections did
>reveal that I have not yet overcome the attachment to material possessions.
>I can not beleive how the loss of so many one of a kind objects can tear a
>riff so deep in my soul (that's if I have one).

I know what you mean... It's tough when you lose things in a fire or any other
disaster, for that matter. It hurts when those things that give you comfort and
make a strange Haven seem more like home aren't there. The cases of Scotch
arrived safely and they are in the AGVTM meeting room.

>Charmaine has been helping me collect the insurance money and search for a
>suitable haven in the Chicago Area. I like the Rack area, but there are so
>few buildings left with character. I hesitate to build new, I have been
>eyeing an old theater, but it reminds me too much of my haven in Paris. I
>have a church I in London and Belfast, Warehouse in Toronto and Torino, 16th
>centry stone house in Quebec, freighter in Montreal, barn in Edinburgh,
>winery in Bordeaux, light house in Aberdeen, wind mill in Antwerpen, cheese
>shop in Holland, factory in Hamburg, Inn in Ruhr, novelty shop in
>Manchester, book store in Birmingham, farmhouse in Nantes, manor in Lyon,
>and a bordellow in Marseille.

Not only that, but the Rack has become so Yuppiefied in the past five years,
that it's a shame. All of the really good buildings are either being torn down
and made into parking lots, or renovated into cookie-cutter lofts to the point
of blandness. Wait a minute.... You lived in a warehouse, in Toronto? Ack!
<"Forever Knight" flashback kicks in at this point... >

>I am looking for something unique, I thing the old brewery building that
>went out of business during proabishion, that couldn't compete with Millers
>Brewery out of Millwalkie may be the my new haven. I will place a bid in,
>this week and see if the owner will part with the place. I understand it has
>special cellars, designed to be packed with lake ice, to keep the beer cool
>in the summer, before refridgeration was invented.

I went with VanDam last week to check the place out... There's lots of room for
his plants, and other items. It's fire-proof red brick, and all that it needs
is to have the wood replaced on the floors, posts and ceilings, and rolling
shutters installed on the windows. The electrical system was already being
brought up to code, an air conditioning system can easily be installed, and
there's all-new plumbing being installed. The cellars are large enough to hold
a large living room, and I think that the place would be just right for him...

>>> Who knows, Vallyrie Dawn-Runner might have a secret barbecue sauce that
>>>we can all try to guess the recipe. We all know how much fun these Parties
>>>can be. I intend to ask Charmaine if she will teach me a few square dance
>>>steps before the party begins. If you are worried about being embarrassed,
just
>>> come and watch an Elder square dance for the first time.

I'd be happy to teach you a few square dance steps, VanDam, although it's been
a while since I've danced the Texas Two-Step, so I might be a bit rusty...

>>If anybody square dances, I swear that I will make George teach you
>>all the Morris Dance, then you will be sorry <g>.

>I do not know how to do a Morris Dance. Is it a British favourite of yours?
>Are you suggesting hosting a party at in Britan after Vallyrie
>Dawn-Runner's, so that we may dance the Morris Dance?

LOL! Anthony would _love_ that, since he _is_ the AGVTM's Lord of the Dance...

>>> Det. VanDam

>>Lord Strange

>Det. VanDam

Charmaine


LizzieW82

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MJS...@bolton.ac.uk (Dominique LeLaert.) hung this out to dry:
>My dear Sir,

Valkyrie is fine, or Dawn-Runner. And incidentally it is Madam

> Firstly I write to you to bid my humblest of apologise for my snipe at
>your idea to hold a tournament.

Accepted.

>However you must understand my sceptism. I
>hold no lack of faith in your Sect sirrah, and wish you to know that I hold
>no
>allegiance to any group that I may care to mention. I might mention that if
>I
>had any lack of faith in the sabbat or the Camarilla of fulfill it's
>ideologies
>to the letter I would not have invited both to my house in the first
>advertised
>meeting of newsgroup kindred.

Okay, fine. But the impression you gave was that you felt the demonstrations
of fighting would decend into inter-sect war.

Secondly, I would never use my clan for an
>excuse to my lack of ability in any event, but it would be blind not to
>recognise that simple fact that even though as a clan we are just as capable
>at
>combat as any of the others, our Elders would be, let us say, most atypical
>to
>embraces someone just for their fighting potential. I will no deny this
>practice does occur (and I for one have no qualms against any choice one
>should
>make for a childer) but you have to admit that it is rare within our clan.

I was embraced for my talent in dancing and music. Elissa just didn't
realize the fight in me. <g> pardon the lame pun.
It is not the Elders fault that we are not as battle ready. I could teach
any kindred alive to fight. Not nessicarily to my level or to perfection, but
I could teach any to be able to defend themselves.

I
>am
>not unknown to the rules of engagement myself and as the fashion dueled many
>a
>night with my peers at the peek of the eighteenth century. Regardless,
>closing
>my comment of Barbarism was unwarranted, however I do stand by my arms to the
>fact that all bloodshed, be it on the field of honour or otherwise is, if not
>for sustinance, unnecessary. I wish only to be reasurred, as simple as that.
>I am sure I will not be the only one who will need to be convinced but hope
>we
>could speak on the topics we disagree on at your gathering. I find it so
>tiresome if everybody agrees in gestalt fashion, do you not?

First off, let me apologize for flying off the handle. I don't take insult
to me or my art well. (Not that many persons do.)
Feel free to feel that it is unnessicary, (This is not meant rudely sir,)
And as for arguments, please. I am sick of the Yes men and woman that surroud
the prince. Argue if you feel the need. Blind agreement is foolish, and a
good argument stirs the blood and make life interesting.

>Yours,
>Dominique LeLaert,
>Toreador.

V. Dawn-Runner

Detective VanDam

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<snip>

>>Who knows, Vallyrie Dawn-Runner might have a secret barbecue sauce that we
>>can all try to guess the recipe. We all know how much fun these Parties
can
>>be. I intend to ask Charmaine if she will teach me a few square dance
steps
>>before the party begins. If you are worried about being embarrassed, just
>>come and watch an Elder square dance for the first time.
>

> Um, no. I don't cook, no need too. I will have food there, but no
cooked by
>my hand. And I don't squaredance. In fact I don't know any kindred who
do.
>
>>Det. VanDam
>
>V. Dawn-Runner


Dear Valkyrie Dawn-Runner,

We will be travelling all the way to the old west, to a ranch and nobody you
know can square dance. Do you at least line dance?

Det. VanDam

Detective VanDam

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><Snippage>


>>however regardless of their age, they

>>had power and they had beauty, two things as a sterotypical Toreador, I
>>should


>>not pass up.) Regardless, where would this Tournament take place?
>
> It would take place on a ranch near the Superstition mountians of
Arizona.
>And the party the night before will be held at a underground nightclub run
by a
>friend, called Opium's Den.
>

> Far be if
>>for
>>me to volunteer to go one to one with some of the more combat orientated
>>clans
>>I am sure a spectator or two would be advisable. Especially one who hold
no

>>tithe to any sect and may ensure no, unnecessary, blood is spilt. Would
the
>>host to this barbarism please post a copy of the rules upon this forum for
>>all
>>to see.
>


> ::Intense silence:: Mister LeLaert, to say I am offended would be an
>understatment. First of all, if you had said you would like to view as you
are
>unsuited to battle then fine. Using your clan as an excuse is foolish. I
am a
>Toreador and damn proud of my art. Fighting is an old and respected art
form.
>And if you are attending solely to prevent "Unnessicary bloodshed" alone,
then
>feel free to stay where ever you are. If you wish to come to witness a
display
>of talents and socialize, then I would be proud to have you.
> The tournament is of course going to be carefully structured to prevent
>danger, it is to the first blood or touch (depending on the event). This
is
>not a chance for us to join and butcher each other.
> And your lack of faith in sect's being able to hold true is sad. Perhaps
you
>should not come if you have a problem with other sects. We offically are
>Camarilla, but they ignore our existance. We gladly welcome the Sabbat to
us,
>and the clanless. If you agree to uphold the Masquerade and obey the
prince
>then you can stay.
>

>>Dominique LeLaert,
>>Clan of the Rose.
>

>V. Dawn-Runner
>Toreador/Warrior/Artist/Counsler to the Prince/and mostly Offended


Dear Valkyrie Dawn-Runner,

It is your Toreador fascination for the art of war that I shall use as an
equalizer. With any luck you will poses the typical Toreador weakness in
this area, and I may have a chance by exploiting it. I was able to hold my
own versus Romulus, a Toreador with a similar love of the art of war. I
wonder if you will prove to be as vulnerable as he was?

Det. VanDam

Detective VanDam

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><SNIP>

>> >If anybody square dances, I swear that I will make George teach
>you
>> >all the Morris Dance, then you will be sorry <g>.
>> >
>> I do not know how to do a Morris Dance. Is it a British favourite of
yours?
>> Are you suggesting hosting a party at in Britan after Vallyrie
>> Dawn-Runner's, so that we may dance the Morris Dance?
>>
> Oh my God! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
> Damn your black heart George Fletcher. And as for you Van Dam.
>You even think such a thing again, and I swear I will not rest until your
>head adorns a wooden stick being bashed against another by two men with
>bells on their ankles.
> Michaeli Giovanni.
>
Good Evening Michaeli Giovanni,

It has been a while since anyone wanted my head on a stick. Nice to know
some customs never go out of date. What is wrong with a Morris Dance? Have
you seen Lord Strange dance this jig and feel it would be inappropriate to
embarrass such a stately gentleman, by asking him to display his skill? You
are concerned are you that Lord Strange may host a party? I think he would
make an excellent host, and it has been some time since I was last in
England.

Det. VanDam

Detective VanDam

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><earlier tournament stuff snipped....>

>
>>Members of the Order of AGVTM,
>>
>>Vallyrie Dawn-Runner is hosting a Tournament, or what ever she wishes to
>>call her social event. We as members of the Order are obligated to attend,
>>if for not other reason, than to watch Yvette's nuke-em fireworks display.
>><shudder>
>
>Considering that the fireworks display at the Grand Opening of the Cafe'
Rose

>de la Nuit didn't go as planned... this display should be interesting to
watch.
>
>>I have never seen Vallyrie Dawn-Runner, display her martial skills. As
luck
>>would have it, I was not at the Garou battle in Copenhagen, nor able to
>>assist in saving Yvette, in Chicago. This is the first martial event that
I
>>will have attended in the New World and the first to be exclusively
vampire
>>in nature.
>
>Okay, VanDam... ya got me! I almost forgot that I'm the Lord of the Dance
of
>the Order of the AGVTM, and therefore, I must be in attendance. I'll see if
I
>can get out of attending Rant '98 in New Orleans. To be honest... the last
>really great Rant was back in 1995 when The Grateful Dead played their
final
>concert in Chicago. The Rants during the last couple of years have been so
>boring, and they weren't much fun.

There are responsibilites that go with that title, and showing up at parties
is one of them.

>>The Opium Den, sounds like a highlight event. Though my stock of fine
single
>>malt scotches, and Cuban cigars were destroyed with my haven. I was able
to
>>recover a fine set of pearl handled six shooters, and silver spirs. It has
>>been several centuries since I have been on a horse, and I for one intend
to
>>have some fun at the ranch.
>

>Hmmm... Charmaine can help you with that, Detective. Prince Jonathan is
>scheduled to visit Toronto next week to attend a meeting of the
stockholders of
>a well-known corporation. She could persuade him to bring back a box of

cigars


>and a case of fine single-malt scotch for you before he returns to Chicago.


This is wonderful. I can't begin to thank all the Cainites who have helped
me out so far. It is most appriciated. I hope a simple "Thank You" will do.

>>Who knows, Vallyrie Dawn-Runner might have a secret barbecue sauce that we
>>can all try to guess the recipe. We all know how much fun these Parties
can
>>be. I intend to ask Charmaine if she will teach me a few square dance
steps
>>before the party begins. If you are worried about being embarrassed, just
>>come and watch an Elder square dance for the first time.
>

>Well, if Charmaine can't help you with those square dance steps, VanDam...
I'd
>be more than willing to try. <BG>


Will you be wearing the kilt, or will I? <BG right back at you>

>>Det. VanDam
>
>Anthony Balthazar
>Sheriff of Chicago
>Lord of the Dance of the Order of AGTVM

Det. VanDam

Detective VanDam

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><other stuff about the tournament snipped...>
>
>>>> Members of the Order of AGVTM,
>
>>>> Vallyrie Dawn-Runner is hosting a Tournament, or what ever she wishes
to
>>>> call her social event. We as members of the Order are obligated to
>>>>attend, if for not other reason, than to watch Yvette's nuke-em
fireworks
>>>>display. <shudder>
>
>Just as long as dear Yvette keeps Hannibal on a leash... I can live with
that.
> ;-)


I still have that ghouled mouse Iprepared if she brought that packaderm to
Chicago. I could rent the mouse out to any party host that needs protection.
I wonder if she will just ghoul a cat to handle my mouse, then I ghoul a dog
to handle her cat, this could turn into a zoo.

>>>> I have never seen Vallyrie Dawn-Runner, display her martial skills. As
>>>>luck would have it, I was not at the Garou battle in Copenhagen, nor
able
>to
>>>> assist in saving Yvette, in Chicago. This is the first martial event
that
>>>>I will have attended in the New World and the first to be exclusively
>>>>vampire in nature.
>
><sigh...> I almost forgot about that... Since the Cafe' Rose de la Nuit
does
>house the Order of the AGVTM, I should be there, shouldn't I? <g>


Have you considered the position of Den-Mother to the Order of AGVTM?

>>>> The Opium Den, sounds like a highlight event. Though my stock of fine
>>>>single malt scotches, and Cuban cigars were destroyed with my haven. I
was
>able
>>>>to recover a fine set of pearl handled six shooters, and silver spirs.
It
>>>>has been several centuries since I have been on a horse, and I for one
>intend
>>>>to have some fun at the ranch.
>
>Oooooooh!!! Are you going to wear a cowboy hat, too, VanDam? I would love
to
>see you in your best cowboy outfit... <sweet smile>

Not only do I intend to wear, a 10 gallon hat, but spirs as well. Silver if
I can arrange it, and a silver belt buckle. If I can arrange it, silver
bullets. I was a big fan of the Lone Ranger, who I would listen to three
nights a week on the radio.

>>>I had not realised that your losses were quite so serious. If you
>>>would care to drop me a line as to your immeadiate needs in the
>>>above, I can probably replace much from my personal stocks and others
>>>I should be able to order for you. I had a short period of collecting
>>>distilleries in Scotland and, whilst many have gone bankrupt, I still
>>>own the contents of the vats and the warehouses.
>
>Prince Jonathan is going to Toronto next week, and he'd be happy to bring
back
>some Cuban cigars and a case of single-malt scotch for you....
>
>>Dear Lord Strange,
>>
>>Your offer is most generous and appreciated. Please forward the cases to
>>Cafe' Rose de la Nuit. The loss of many of my personnal collections did
>>reveal that I have not yet overcome the attachment to material
possessions.
>>I can not beleive how the loss of so many one of a kind objects can tear a
>>riff so deep in my soul (that's if I have one).
>
>I know what you mean... It's tough when you lose things in a fire or any
other
>disaster, for that matter. It hurts when those things that give you comfort
and
>make a strange Haven seem more like home aren't there. The cases of Scotch
>arrived safely and they are in the AGVTM meeting room.


That's good news, but I gave them to the Order, and it just doesn't seem
right to take them back. They should be enjoyed by all.

>>Charmaine has been helping me collect the insurance money and search for a
>>suitable haven in the Chicago Area. I like the Rack area, but there are so
>>few buildings left with character. I hesitate to build new, I have been
>>eyeing an old theater, but it reminds me too much of my haven in Paris. I
>>have a church I in London and Belfast, Warehouse in Toronto and Torino,
16th
>>centry stone house in Quebec, freighter in Montreal, barn in Edinburgh,
>>winery in Bordeaux, light house in Aberdeen, wind mill in Antwerpen,
cheese
>>shop in Holland, factory in Hamburg, Inn in Ruhr, novelty shop in
>>Manchester, book store in Birmingham, farmhouse in Nantes, manor in Lyon,
>>and a bordellow in Marseille.
>
>Not only that, but the Rack has become so Yuppiefied in the past five
years,
>that it's a shame. All of the really good buildings are either being torn
down
>and made into parking lots, or renovated into cookie-cutter lofts to the
point
>of blandness. Wait a minute.... You lived in a warehouse, in Toronto?
Ack!
><"Forever Knight" flashback kicks in at this point... >


Don't remind me. I told you I think some writer was following me around and
secretly stealing my life. Let's not start this threat all over again
Charmaine. It makes me uncomfortable to know how close the Masquerade comes
to being broken.

>>I am looking for something unique, I thing the old brewery building that
>>went out of business during proabishion, that couldn't compete with
Millers
>>Brewery out of Millwalkie may be the my new haven. I will place a bid in,
>>this week and see if the owner will part with the place. I understand it
has
>>special cellars, designed to be packed with lake ice, to keep the beer
cool
>>in the summer, before refridgeration was invented.
>
>I went with VanDam last week to check the place out... There's lots of room
for
>his plants, and other items. It's fire-proof red brick, and all that it
needs
>is to have the wood replaced on the floors, posts and ceilings, and rolling
>shutters installed on the windows. The electrical system was already being
>brought up to code, an air conditioning system can easily be installed, and
>there's all-new plumbing being installed. The cellars are large enough to
hold
>a large living room, and I think that the place would be just right for
him...


Yes, and you did insist on decorating the place, so now that the insurance
money is in I have been wondering what you have in mind? I will handle the
security system and certain modifications to the building, but these
modifications should not be visible.

>>>> Who knows, Vallyrie Dawn-Runner might have a secret barbecue sauce that
>>>>we can all try to guess the recipe. We all know how much fun these
Parties
>>>>can be. I intend to ask Charmaine if she will teach me a few square
dance
>>>>steps before the party begins. If you are worried about being
embarrassed,
>just
>>>> come and watch an Elder square dance for the first time.
>
>I'd be happy to teach you a few square dance steps, VanDam, although it's
been
>a while since I've danced the Texas Two-Step, so I might be a bit rusty...


Well I will take your best rust, over some high priced dance instructor
anytime. Unless your high heals do grevious injury to my feet, I should
survive the foot stomping.

>>>If anybody square dances, I swear that I will make George teach you
>>>all the Morris Dance, then you will be sorry <g>.
>
>>I do not know how to do a Morris Dance. Is it a British favourite of
yours?
>>Are you suggesting hosting a party at in Britan after Vallyrie
>>Dawn-Runner's, so that we may dance the Morris Dance?
>
>LOL! Anthony would _love_ that, since he _is_ the AGVTM's Lord of the
Dance...


Then maybe Lord Strange will put on a Morris Dance demonstration.

>>>> Det. VanDam
>
>>>Lord Strange
>
>>Det. VanDam
>
>Charmaine
>

Det. VanDam

Detective VanDam

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><other stuff about the tournament snipped...>
>
>>>> Members of the Order of AGVTM,
>
>>>> Vallyrie Dawn-Runner is hosting a Tournament, or what ever she wishes
to
>>>> call her social event. We as members of the Order are obligated to
>>>>attend, if for not other reason, than to watch Yvette's nuke-em
fireworks
>>>>display. <shudder>
>
>Just as long as dear Yvette keeps Hannibal on a leash... I can live with
that.
> ;-)

I still have that ghouled mouse Iprepared if she brought that packaderm to
Chicago. I could rent the mouse out to any party host that needs protection.
I wonder if she will just ghoul a cat to handle my mouse, then I ghoul a dog
to handle her cat, this could turn into a zoo.

>>>> I have never seen Vallyrie Dawn-Runner, display her martial skills. As


>>>>luck would have it, I was not at the Garou battle in Copenhagen, nor
able
>to
>>>> assist in saving Yvette, in Chicago. This is the first martial event
that
>>>>I will have attended in the New World and the first to be exclusively
>>>>vampire in nature.
>
><sigh...> I almost forgot about that... Since the Cafe' Rose de la Nuit
does
>house the Order of the AGVTM, I should be there, shouldn't I? <g>

Have you considered the position of Den-Mother to the Order of AGVTM?

>>>> The Opium Den, sounds like a highlight event. Though my stock of fine


>>>>single malt scotches, and Cuban cigars were destroyed with my haven. I
was
>able
>>>>to recover a fine set of pearl handled six shooters, and silver spirs.
It
>>>>has been several centuries since I have been on a horse, and I for one
>intend
>>>>to have some fun at the ranch.
>
>Oooooooh!!! Are you going to wear a cowboy hat, too, VanDam? I would love
to
>see you in your best cowboy outfit... <sweet smile>

Not only do I intend to wear, a 10 gallon hat, but spirs as well. Silver if


I can arrange it, and a silver belt buckle. If I can arrange it, silver
bullets. I was a big fan of the Lone Ranger, who I would listen to three
nights a week on the radio.

>>>I had not realised that your losses were quite so serious. If you


>>>would care to drop me a line as to your immeadiate needs in the
>>>above, I can probably replace much from my personal stocks and others
>>>I should be able to order for you. I had a short period of collecting
>>>distilleries in Scotland and, whilst many have gone bankrupt, I still
>>>own the contents of the vats and the warehouses.
>
>Prince Jonathan is going to Toronto next week, and he'd be happy to bring
back
>some Cuban cigars and a case of single-malt scotch for you....
>
>>Dear Lord Strange,
>>
>>Your offer is most generous and appreciated. Please forward the cases to
>>Cafe' Rose de la Nuit. The loss of many of my personnal collections did
>>reveal that I have not yet overcome the attachment to material
possessions.
>>I can not beleive how the loss of so many one of a kind objects can tear a
>>riff so deep in my soul (that's if I have one).
>
>I know what you mean... It's tough when you lose things in a fire or any
other
>disaster, for that matter. It hurts when those things that give you comfort
and
>make a strange Haven seem more like home aren't there. The cases of Scotch
>arrived safely and they are in the AGVTM meeting room.

That's good news, but I gave them to the Order, and it just doesn't seem
right to take them back. They should be enjoyed by all.

>>Charmaine has been helping me collect the insurance money and search for a


>>suitable haven in the Chicago Area. I like the Rack area, but there are so
>>few buildings left with character. I hesitate to build new, I have been
>>eyeing an old theater, but it reminds me too much of my haven in Paris. I
>>have a church I in London and Belfast, Warehouse in Toronto and Torino,
16th
>>centry stone house in Quebec, freighter in Montreal, barn in Edinburgh,
>>winery in Bordeaux, light house in Aberdeen, wind mill in Antwerpen,
cheese
>>shop in Holland, factory in Hamburg, Inn in Ruhr, novelty shop in
>>Manchester, book store in Birmingham, farmhouse in Nantes, manor in Lyon,
>>and a bordellow in Marseille.
>
>Not only that, but the Rack has become so Yuppiefied in the past five
years,
>that it's a shame. All of the really good buildings are either being torn
down
>and made into parking lots, or renovated into cookie-cutter lofts to the
point
>of blandness. Wait a minute.... You lived in a warehouse, in Toronto?
Ack!
><"Forever Knight" flashback kicks in at this point... >

Don't remind me. I told you I think some writer was following me around and
secretly stealing my life. Let's not start this threat all over again
Charmaine. It makes me uncomfortable to know how close the Masquerade comes
to being broken.

>>I am looking for something unique, I thing the old brewery building that


>>went out of business during proabishion, that couldn't compete with
Millers
>>Brewery out of Millwalkie may be the my new haven. I will place a bid in,
>>this week and see if the owner will part with the place. I understand it
has
>>special cellars, designed to be packed with lake ice, to keep the beer
cool
>>in the summer, before refridgeration was invented.
>
>I went with VanDam last week to check the place out... There's lots of room
for
>his plants, and other items. It's fire-proof red brick, and all that it
needs
>is to have the wood replaced on the floors, posts and ceilings, and rolling
>shutters installed on the windows. The electrical system was already being
>brought up to code, an air conditioning system can easily be installed, and
>there's all-new plumbing being installed. The cellars are large enough to
hold
>a large living room, and I think that the place would be just right for
him...

Yes, and you did insist on decorating the place, so now that the insurance
money is in I have been wondering what you have in mind? I will handle the
security system and certain modifications to the building, but these
modifications should not be visible.

>>>> Who knows, Vallyrie Dawn-Runner might have a secret barbecue sauce that


>>>>we can all try to guess the recipe. We all know how much fun these
Parties
>>>>can be. I intend to ask Charmaine if she will teach me a few square
dance
>>>>steps before the party begins. If you are worried about being
embarrassed,
>just
>>>> come and watch an Elder square dance for the first time.
>
>I'd be happy to teach you a few square dance steps, VanDam, although it's
been
>a while since I've danced the Texas Two-Step, so I might be a bit rusty...

Well I will take your best rust, over some high priced dance instructor
anytime. Unless your high heals do grevious injury to my feet, I should
survive the foot stomping.

>>>If anybody square dances, I swear that I will make George teach you


>>>all the Morris Dance, then you will be sorry <g>.
>
>>I do not know how to do a Morris Dance. Is it a British favourite of
yours?
>>Are you suggesting hosting a party at in Britan after Vallyrie
>>Dawn-Runner's, so that we may dance the Morris Dance?
>
>LOL! Anthony would _love_ that, since he _is_ the AGVTM's Lord of the
Dance...

Then maybe Lord Strange will put on a Morris Dance demonstration.

>>>> Det. VanDam


>
>>>Lord Strange
>
>>Det. VanDam
>
>Charmaine
>

Det. VanDam

PKieferjr

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In article <199804192046...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, lizz...@aol.com
(LizzieW82) writes:

> Anyways, I pulled a few favors in and he okay'd it. We have a lovely ranch
>area that is a form of Elysium. (I'll explain the rules of it in the offical
>invatiation) He says we can use that. And a good friend of mine, Opuim, a
>sabbat toredor, has offered her club Opuim's Den as a opening night party.
>So,
>the basic plan right now is to have a welcome to the area/introduction thing
>at
>Opuim's Den and then the next night have a tournament/showcase at the ranch.
> The tenitive date is some time in June, one of the first two weekends
>perhaps. Are there a serious number of us who will be unable to attend? Any
>worries, ideas, concerns, thoughts etc?
> I can provide a few havens for some of you if nessicary, though you will be
>staying in the same building as a couple of my pupils and at least three
>other
>kindred. (This may make some nervous, but I vouch for your safety)
>
>V. Dawn-Runner


Letter from Johnathon Charles Matsuka:

I would be honored to attend the competition, but prior engagements force me to
forego the invitation. Perhaps in August or September.

JCM

Until then.....sayonara.


Email from Nick Barton:

Love ta go watch. Demos? Seminars? Mah last gig showed just how lackin' Ah
was. Mebbe Ah can pick up a few pointers. Looks like th' rest of th' crowd's
gonna be busy, so ya might wanna postpone that until somewhar between August
an' September. Get back ta me when ya can.

Nick


(OOC: Much as I'd love to, I suspect that I'd be the only one in attendance,
so a postponement might be a good idea.)

PKieferjr

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In article <199804222337...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, lizz...@aol.com
(LizzieW82) writes:

>OOC: How does September sound to you all? Or if you want, we can just delay
>it
>till October and make it the Halloween party. Either way. <g>

September appears to be reasonable. Like to take up the ongoing love interest
thread and develop further.

Paul

Webwalker

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Detective thought, and when the smoke cleared, this appeared:

>><other stuff about the tournament snipped...>
>>
>>Just as long as dear Yvette keeps Hannibal on a leash... I can live with
> that.
>> ;-)

> I still have that ghouled mouse Iprepared if she brought that packaderm to
> Chicago. I could rent the mouse out to any party host that needs protection.
> I wonder if she will just ghoul a cat to handle my mouse, then I ghoul a dog
> to handle her cat, this could turn into a zoo.

Cool! I've got a line on a White Rhino from the Toronto Zoo... though
I'm partial to ghouling a dozen or so Meercats instead... *evil laugh*

> Det. VanDam

Bryce

Simon Magid

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On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:03:55 -0400, "Detective VanDam"
<gaud...@windsor.igs.net> wrote:

>>Just as long as dear Yvette keeps Hannibal on a leash... I can live with
>that.
>> ;-)
>
>
>I still have that ghouled mouse Iprepared if she brought that packaderm to
>Chicago. I could rent the mouse out to any party host that needs protection.
>I wonder if she will just ghoul a cat to handle my mouse, then I ghoul a dog
>to handle her cat, this could turn into a zoo.

Hey, Dammie. You ever hear the song about the little old lady that
swallowed a fly? <eg>

Yvette, Anarch

Luke Slater

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On 23 Apr 1998, Webwalker wrote:

> LizzieW82 thought, and when the smoke cleared, this appeared:


> > OOC: How does September sound to you all? Or if you want, we can just delay it
> > till October and make it the Halloween party. Either way. <g>
>

> Sept is good for me. Anytime during the school year is good for me. :)
>

Likewise for me, which means October to early December.
Luke.

Luke Slater

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On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, Detective VanDam wrote:

> ><SNIP>


> >> >If anybody square dances, I swear that I will make George teach
> >you
> >> >all the Morris Dance, then you will be sorry <g>.
> >> >
> >> I do not know how to do a Morris Dance. Is it a British favourite of
> yours?
> >> Are you suggesting hosting a party at in Britan after Vallyrie
> >> Dawn-Runner's, so that we may dance the Morris Dance?
> >>

> > Oh my God! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
> > Damn your black heart George Fletcher. And as for you Van Dam.
> >You even think such a thing again, and I swear I will not rest until your
> >head adorns a wooden stick being bashed against another by two men with
> >bells on their ankles.
> > Michaeli Giovanni.
> >
> Good Evening Michaeli Giovanni,
>
> It has been a while since anyone wanted my head on a stick. Nice to know
> some customs never go out of date. What is wrong with a Morris Dance? Have
> you seen Lord Strange dance this jig and feel it would be inappropriate to
> embarrass such a stately gentleman, by asking him to display his skill? You
> are concerned are you that Lord Strange may host a party? I think he would
> make an excellent host, and it has been some time since I was last in
> England.
>
> Det. VanDam
>

Be silent fool. You know not of what you speak, for I have seen
the dance of the devil; and it is called Morris (the dance, not the
devil). Surely there can be no sight more terrifying under the sun than
that of five grown men prancing around with bells and hankies, banging
sticks together and crying hey nonny nonny.
Michaeli Giovanni.

Luke Slater

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And you're not responsible for the security of the Tremere
presence in London. Christ; Queen Anne's OK, but if the Big M decides he
wants his city back there's going to be hell to pay. I've always kind of
hoped he'd actually bought it when his _known_ Haven went down during the
Blitz. Ah well.
Angelica.

Simon Magid

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On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:28:32 +0100, Luke Slater <lj...@cam.ac.uk>
wrote:

>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, Simon Magid wrote:

<Mithras rumour snipt>

>> > Angelica, very worried High Warden of St Pancras.

>> I don't blame you. He scared the shit out of _me_ too.

>> Yvette, Anarch

> And you're not responsible for the security of the Tremere
>presence in London. Christ; Queen Anne's OK, but if the Big M decides he
>wants his city back there's going to be hell to pay. I've always kind of
>hoped he'd actually bought it when his _known_ Haven went down during the
>Blitz. Ah well.

Some of these Oldie van Moldies are mighty hard to kill, Angie. Just
ask Radziwicz if you want more stories of this kind. You can kill a
lick's body, but if she's famous it's a damn sight harder to kill the
legend surrounding her.

> Angelica.

Yvette, Anarch

SFryar

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In article <6hp3nl$4ls$1...@news.igs.net>, "Detective VanDam"
<gaud...@windsor.igs.net> writes:

>><other stuff about the tournament snipped...>

>>>>> Members of the Order of AGVTM,
>>>>> Vallyrie Dawn-Runner is hosting a Tournament, or what ever she wishes
>>>>>to call her social event. We as members of the Order are obligated to
>>>>>attend, if for not other reason, than to watch Yvette's nuke-em
>>>>>>fireworks display. <shudder>

>>Just as long as dear Yvette keeps Hannibal on a leash... I can live with
>>that. ;-)

>I still have that ghouled mouse Iprepared if she brought that packaderm to
>Chicago. I could rent the mouse out to any party host that needs protection.
>I wonder if she will just ghoul a cat to handle my mouse, then I ghoul a dog
>to handle her cat, this could turn into a zoo.

Hmmmm...... <smiling brightly> A zoo filled with ghouled animals? That's an
interesting idea, VanDam...

>>>>> I have never seen Vallyrie Dawn-Runner, display her martial skills. As
>>>>>luck would have it, I was not at the Garou battle in Copenhagen, nor
>>>>>able to assist in saving Yvette, in Chicago. This is the first martial
event
>>>>>that I will have attended in the New World and the first to be
exclusively
>>>>>vampire in nature.

>><sigh...> I almost forgot about that... Since the Cafe' Rose de la Nuit
>>does house the Order of the AGVTM, I should be there, shouldn't I? <g>

>Have you considered the position of Den-Mother to the Order of AGVTM?

Well... if the other members of the Order of AGVTM didn't object, I'd love to
be the Den-Mother to the Order of AGVTM. Thank you... I appreciate your
thoughtfulness.

>>>>> The Opium Den, sounds like a highlight event. Though my stock of fine
>>>>>single malt scotches, and Cuban cigars were destroyed with my haven. I
>>>>>was able to recover a fine set of pearl handled six shooters, and silver
spirs.
>>>>>>It has been several centuries since I have been on a horse, and I for one
>>>>>>intend to have some fun at the ranch.

>>Oooooooh!!! Are you going to wear a cowboy hat, too, VanDam? I would love
>>to see you in your best cowboy outfit... <sweet smile>

>Not only do I intend to wear, a 10 gallon hat, but spirs as well. Silver if
>I can arrange it, and a silver belt buckle. If I can arrange it, silver
>bullets. I was a big fan of the Lone Ranger, who I would listen to three
>nights a week on the radio.

I have a few calico-print cotton dresses in my closet, and it's been a while
since I've worn them... I think that I might have a good excuse to bring them
out of storage now...

>>>>I had not realised that your losses were quite so serious. If you
>>>>would care to drop me a line as to your immeadiate needs in the
>>>>above, I can probably replace much from my personal stocks and others
>>>>I should be able to order for you. I had a short period of collecting
>>>>distilleries in Scotland and, whilst many have gone bankrupt, I still
>>>>own the contents of the vats and the warehouses.

<Prince Jonathan's generous offer snipt, due to space limits....>

>>>Dear Lord Strange,
>>>
>>>Your offer is most generous and appreciated. Please forward the cases to
>>>Cafe' Rose de la Nuit. The loss of many of my personnal collections did
>>>reveal that I have not yet overcome the attachment to material
>>>possessions. I can not beleive how the loss of so many one of a kind objects
can tear a
>>>riff so deep in my soul (that's if I have one).

>>I know what you mean... It's tough when you lose things in a fire or any
>>other disaster, for that matter. It hurts when those things that give you
comfort
>>and make a strange Haven seem more like home aren't there. The cases of
Scotch
>>arrived safely and they are in the AGVTM meeting room.

>That's good news, but I gave them to the Order, and it just doesn't seem
>right to take them back. They should be enjoyed by all.

Thank you kindly, VanDam... Anthony had a glass last night when he stopped by
the Cafe' for a brief visit. He says that they are excellent!

>>>Charmaine has been helping me collect the insurance money and search for a
>>>suitable haven in the Chicago Area. I like the Rack area, but there are so
>>>few buildings left with character. I hesitate to build new, I have been
>>>eyeing an old theater, but it reminds me too much of my haven in Paris. I
>>>have a church I in London and Belfast, Warehouse in Toronto and Torino,
>>>>16th centry stone house in Quebec, freighter in Montreal, barn in
Edinburgh,
>>>winery in Bordeaux, light house in Aberdeen, wind mill in Antwerpen,
>>>cheese shop in Holland, factory in Hamburg, Inn in Ruhr, novelty shop in
>>>Manchester, book store in Birmingham, farmhouse in Nantes, manor in Lyon,
>>>and a bordellow in Marseille.

>>Not only that, but the Rack has become so Yuppiefied in the past five
>>years, that it's a shame. All of the really good buildings are either being
torn
>>down and made into parking lots, or renovated into cookie-cutter lofts to the
>>point of blandness. Wait a minute.... You lived in a warehouse, in Toronto?
>>Ack! <"Forever Knight" flashback kicks in at this point... >

>Don't remind me. I told you I think some writer was following me around and
>secretly stealing my life. Let's not start this threat all over again
>Charmaine. It makes me uncomfortable to know how close the Masquerade comes
>to being broken.

I won't mention it again, Detective... <smiling sweetly and adjusting halo>

>>>I am looking for something unique, I thing the old brewery building that
>>>went out of business during proabishion, that couldn't compete with
>>>Millers Brewery out of Millwalkie may be the my new haven. I will place a
bid in,
>>>this week and see if the owner will part with the place. I understand it
>>>has special cellars, designed to be packed with lake ice, to keep the beer
>>>cool in the summer, before refridgeration was invented.

>>I went with VanDam last week to check the place out... There's lots of room
>>for his plants, and other items. It's fire-proof red brick, and all that it
>>needs is to have the wood replaced on the floors, posts and ceilings, and
rolling
>>shutters installed on the windows. The electrical system was already being
>>brought up to code, an air conditioning system can easily be installed, and
>>there's all-new plumbing being installed. The cellars are large enough to
>>hold a large living room, and I think that the place would be just right for
him...

>Yes, and you did insist on decorating the place, so now that the insurance
>money is in I have been wondering what you have in mind? I will handle the
>security system and certain modifications to the building, but these
>modifications should not be visible.

Well... <thinking> You keep as much of the original brick work as possible,
along with several huge sheet-rock plaster panels to be put up on the walls to
give it a smooth surface. The wall can then either be wall papered, or wood
panelling (oak would be an excellent choice!) can be put up to give the rooms a
more refined and finished look. The staircases can be redone to get them in
shape (chrome bannisters and railings would be perfect!), and the bathrooms
(Two!) will have porcelain fixtures that have that marble look, and there will
be a whirlpool tub in the main bathroom...

The windows would be replaced with double-paned, reflective glass that diffuses
sunlight, and keeps the rooms warm in winter and cool in summer. The rolling
shutters can be operated manually (if there's a power outage) as well as
electronically... and they come in a soft nutral ivory color that blends in
perfrctly with the decor. There's also room for a fireplace... and a nice gas
fireplace would give the living room area plenty of warmth. There's enough
space to make two spacious bedrooms which can also be paneled with wood, and
enough space to create a walk-in closet in each bedroom area. Shall I go on?
<g>

>>>>> Who knows, Vallyrie Dawn-Runner might have a secret barbecue sauce that
>>>>>we can all try to guess the recipe. We all know how much fun these
>>>>>Parties can be. I intend to ask Charmaine if she will teach me a few
square
>>>>>dance steps before the party begins. If you are worried about being
>>>>>embarrassed, just come and watch an Elder square dance for the first time.

>>I'd be happy to teach you a few square dance steps, VanDam, although it's
>>been a while since I've danced the Texas Two-Step, so I might be a bit
rusty...

>Well I will take your best rust, over some high priced dance instructor
>anytime. Unless your high heals do grevious injury to my feet, I should
>survive the foot stomping.

I don't wear high heels (low heels are more comfortable for dancing), so you
don't have anything to worry about. It would be an honor to teach you how to
square dance...

>>>>If anybody square dances, I swear that I will make George teach you
>>>>all the Morris Dance, then you will be sorry <g>.

>>>I do not know how to do a Morris Dance. Is it a British favourite of
>>>yours? Are you suggesting hosting a party at in Britan after Vallyrie
>>>Dawn-Runner's, so that we may dance the Morris Dance?

>>LOL! Anthony would _love_ that, since he _is_ the AGVTM's Lord of the
Dance...

>Then maybe Lord Strange will put on a Morris Dance demonstration.

<BG> Let's hope so!

>>>>> Det. VanDam

>>>>Lord Strange

>>>Det. VanDam

>>Charmaine

>Det. VanDam

Charmaine

SFryar

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In article <6honcf$l32$1...@news.igs.net>, "Detective VanDam"
<gaud...@windsor.igs.net> writes:

>
>><earlier tournament stuff snipped....>


>>
>>>Members of the Order of AGVTM,
>>>
>>>Vallyrie Dawn-Runner is hosting a Tournament, or what ever she wishes to
>>>call her social event. We as members of the Order are obligated to attend,
>>>if for not other reason, than to watch Yvette's nuke-em fireworks display.
>>><shudder>

>>Considering that the fireworks display at the Grand Opening of the Cafe'
>>Rose de la Nuit didn't go as planned... this display should be interesting to
>>watch.

>>>I have never seen Vallyrie Dawn-Runner, display her martial skills. As


>>>luck would have it, I was not at the Garou battle in Copenhagen, nor able to
>>>assist in saving Yvette, in Chicago. This is the first martial event that
>>>I will have attended in the New World and the first to be exclusively
>>>vampire in nature.

>>Okay, VanDam... ya got me! I almost forgot that I'm the Lord of the Dance
>>of the Order of the AGVTM, and therefore, I must be in attendance. I'll see


if
>>I can get out of attending Rant '98 in New Orleans. To be honest... the last
>>really great Rant was back in 1995 when The Grateful Dead played their
>>final concert in Chicago. The Rants during the last couple of years have
been so
>>boring, and they weren't much fun.

>There are responsibilites that go with that title, and showing up at parties
>is one of them.

Of course! :-)

>>>The Opium Den, sounds like a highlight event. Though my stock of fine
>>>single malt scotches, and Cuban cigars were destroyed with my haven. I was
able
>>>to recover a fine set of pearl handled six shooters, and silver spirs. It
has
>>>been several centuries since I have been on a horse, and I for one intend
>>>to have some fun at the ranch.

>>Hmmm... Charmaine can help you with that, Detective. Prince Jonathan is


>>scheduled to visit Toronto next week to attend a meeting of the
>>stockholders of a well-known corporation. She could persuade him to bring
back a box of

>>>cigars and a case of fine single-malt scotch for you before he returns to
Chicago.

>This is wonderful. I can't begin to thank all the Cainites who have helped
>me out so far. It is most appriciated. I hope a simple "Thank You" will do.

We are most pleased to assist one of our own who is in need, Detective...

>>>Who knows, Vallyrie Dawn-Runner might have a secret barbecue sauce that we
>>>can all try to guess the recipe. We all know how much fun these Parties
>>>can be. I intend to ask Charmaine if she will teach me a few square dance
>>>steps before the party begins. If you are worried about being embarrassed,
just
>>>come and watch an Elder square dance for the first time.

>>Well, if Charmaine can't help you with those square dance steps, VanDam...


>>I'd be more than willing to try. <BG>

>Will you be wearing the kilt, or will I? <BG right back at you>

Well.... we both wore kilts to the Grand Opening of the Cafe' Rose de la Nuit.
So... it's my turn to wear the kilt, since I'm the Lord of the Dance of the
Order of AGVTM. :-)

>>>Det. VanDam

>>Anthony Balthazar
>>Sheriff of Chicago
>>Lord of the Dance of the Order of AGTVM

>Det. VanDam

Anthony Balthazar
Sheriff of Chicago, Lord of the Dance of the Order of AGTVM

Detective VanDam

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>>>Just as long as dear Yvette keeps Hannibal on a leash... I can live with
>>that.
>>> ;-)
>>
>>
>>I still have that ghouled mouse Iprepared if she brought that packaderm to
>>Chicago. I could rent the mouse out to any party host that needs
protection.
>>I wonder if she will just ghoul a cat to handle my mouse, then I ghoul a
dog
>>to handle her cat, this could turn into a zoo.
>
>Hey, Dammie. You ever hear the song about the little old lady that
>swallowed a fly? <eg>
>
>Yvette, Anarch

Didn't she wish she would die!, at the end of the song? If so yes I have.

Det. VanDam

Simon Magid

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On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 19:51:49 -0400, "Detective VanDam"
<gaud...@windsor.igs.net> wrote:

>>Hey, Dammie. You ever hear the song about the little old lady that
>>swallowed a fly? <eg>

>>Yvette, Anarch

>Didn't she wish she would die!, at the end of the song? If so yes I have.

>Det. VanDam

"And then the little old lady swallowed a horse.
She died, of course."

<eg>

Yvette, Anarch

Sebastian Giovanni

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tali...@inet.uni2.dk (Simon Magid) writes:
>MJS...@bolton.ac.uk (Dominique LeLaert.)
>wrote:
>
><stuff on dueling and Yvette's critique of it snipt>
>
>>Let us cast our minds back to the yesr 1752 shall we?
>
>1752? Hold on. Lemme check my history books. Sounds like it was just a
>few years before the French Revolution and the time Paine, Voltaire,
>Locke and various others began to formulate stuff like 'The Rights of
>Man' and suchlike.

Very true, unrest was ripe within the cities of Paris and the nobility were at
there most decadent, However the revelution itself did not take hold until at
least 30 years afterwards. For those with a blind eye to matters one could
ignore the violence under our very noses.

>
>> I was quite an age then
>>by todays standards but at that time and in europe one of my years was still
>>considered a neonate next to the likes of Mithras and others.


>
>I've got news for you, pal. My Sire Karl is three centuries old and
>_he_ is still practically a Neonate next to Mithras. I saw the guy
>from a distance once, and I don't believe how tough he was.

My point was that the Elders of the time were, to want of a better word, Elder.
I have met with my Lord Mithras on many an offical occasion in the past, and I
have to agree such Power and presence of mind and body is humbling even to the
most blaise of our kind.

>
>> Anyway, the city
>>was Florence, a marvellous city of deep peach rooftops and sandy cobbled
>>streets and I was in love, in love with my sire (as most Toreador are, and I
>>was no exception).
>
>Well, this is limited to Toreador in what way? I was in love with my
>Sire too. My love soured after a while, though.
>

I do not recall mentioning that this trait was but a Toreador malady, only that
the Toreador were prone to such foolishness.

>> However my perfect city and perfect existance was not
>>complete.
>
>Well they couldn't very well be perfect, then. <g>

Perfect, my dear is a subjective term, I look back on those times perhaps with
a sugar coating glaizing the Florentine sky, however I often recall not being
happy in such an idilic setting.

>
>> My Sire, Marian had a suitor. Mr Henry Morgan (who for those of you
>>who like history was once the governor of Jamaica and for those of you who
>>don't a welsh Toreador show off with a boat).
>
>OK.
>
>> Now, Henry and I we good
>>friends, why should we not be.
>
>Both of you being Toreador showoffs, you had common interests. <g>

Often the Darkest on enemies are the closest of friends for they share a
passion.

>
>> He was the famous and charming captain and I
>>was talk of the town, my musings, mostly influenced by my homeland were very
>>popular and even my grandsire had visited one of my readings. However he too
>>had eyes for my sire, so naturally I challenged him.
>
>Gah. Poor Marian. If it had been _me_ two cockerel had been fighting
>over in that way I woulda left town and changed my name. I mean,
>Yvette who falls swooningly into the arms of the guy who swished the
>better penis, I mean saber. My rep woulda been ruined.

I was in Love, my notions were sound. You must remember my dear that such
things as womens lib. and the freedom of rights were centuries away. This was
how things were done back then. In retrospect I believe my Sire to be secretly
happy that she had two up and coming Toreador under her spell and her whim.
She was not the one swooning I assure you, twas her obliging thrall.

>
>> I was at the time (and
>>still am) lucky enough to hold a sabre of good spanish steel and was hoping to
>>dally with it to impress so I called upon a public duel, little knowing that
>>Henry could swash his buckler with the best of them. The duel started and much
>>to my suprise I was given the fight, Henry, the better man let me past his
>>guard and I was victorious.
>
>Sorta nice of the guy. Even so, if _I_ had discovered that I had two
>suitors and that they'd been fighting over me I'd have taken the
>humiliation of it out of their hides. Gah.

Henry was and is a good man, and always had a soft spot for true romance. I
believe his inital interest in a duel was just to pick up my expectations
amongst the other Toreador. Friends such as these come along but once a life
time if you are lucky. Once an immortality even so.

>
>> I helped my friend to his feet and we have been
>>good friends ever since. However to the point, this was not my first duel in
>>the fair city of Florence, a custom grew around our fight and in a similar way
>>to a courtly joust, Young Toreador, Brujah and a few Gangrel now every year
>>fight to first blood for the chance of prestige amongst there fellows. Hardly
>>the schemes of an evil Elder Yvette now is it? I am sure we can do much better
>>than that.
>
>Well I admit that, and I also admit that what young people consider
>fun and games today will prolly seem strange to the kids two centuries
>from now. So you can duel if you like to, pal, _I_ won't stop you. <g>

I thankyou for your blessing and your wit, if only more of the cynical
generation were more acclined to look back on happier times and smile.

>
>>Dominique LeLaert,
>>Autarkis, one time Anarch, one time Primogen, once is quite enough for me.
>
>Yvette, Anarch

Yours in faith and friendship,

Simon Magid

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On 25 Apr 1998 14:55:03 GMT, MJS...@bolton.ac.uk (Sebastian Giovanni)
wrote:

> tali...@inet.uni2.dk (Simon Magid) writes:

>>1752? Hold on. Lemme check my history books. Sounds like it was just a
>>few years before the French Revolution and the time Paine, Voltaire,
>>Locke and various others began to formulate stuff like 'The Rights of
>>Man' and suchlike.
>
>Very true, unrest was ripe within the cities of Paris and the nobility were at
>there most decadent, However the revelution itself did not take hold until at
>least 30 years afterwards. For those with a blind eye to matters one could
>ignore the violence under our very noses.

Somehow I doubt this includes you, pal. You may sound a bit flighty to
me but I _do_ think you noticed it...

Damn hard to do anything about it, though. Exactly the same mess is
happening _today_ many places on the Earth, and God knows I haven't
been able to make much of a difference to it...

>>Well, this is limited to Toreador in what way? I was in love with my
>>Sire too. My love soured after a while, though.

>I do not recall mentioning that this trait was but a Toreador malady, only that
>the Toreador were prone to such foolishness.

OK. Got it.

Though I wonder whether that sort of 'folly' is necessarily a bad
thing. I was happier back then...

>>> However my perfect city and perfect existance was not
>>>complete.
>>
>>Well they couldn't very well be perfect, then. <g>
>
>Perfect, my dear is a subjective term, I look back on those times perhaps with
>a sugar coating glaizing the Florentine sky, however I often recall not being
>happy in such an idilic setting.

Play on words, pal. Ignore it, it's part of my standard routine. If
I'm not obnoxious once in a while I might lose my credibility. <g>

>>Both of you being Toreador showoffs, you had common interests. <g>
>
>Often the Darkest on enemies are the closest of friends for they share a
>passion.

All too true in some cases, I think.

>>Gah. Poor Marian. If it had been _me_ two cockerel had been fighting
>>over in that way I woulda left town and changed my name. I mean,
>>Yvette who falls swooningly into the arms of the guy who swished the
>>better penis, I mean saber. My rep woulda been ruined.
>
>I was in Love, my notions were sound. You must remember my dear that such
>things as womens lib. and the freedom of rights were centuries away. This was
>how things were done back then. In retrospect I believe my Sire to be secretly
>happy that she had two up and coming Toreador under her spell and her whim.
>She was not the one swooning I assure you, twas her obliging thrall.

Well that depends, pal. Granted that _you_ hadn't been exposed to
thoughts like that then -- they only appeared publicly a bit later,
following the French Revolution and so forth -- but I can guarantee
you that some women still thought them, that they were still
frustrated by having less status than men just because they didn't
have pricks. Several women even acted on these thoughts, though they
were unable to alter the mood very much.

>>Sorta nice of the guy. Even so, if _I_ had discovered that I had two
>>suitors and that they'd been fighting over me I'd have taken the
>>humiliation of it out of their hides. Gah.

>Henry was and is a good man, and always had a soft spot for true romance. I
>believe his inital interest in a duel was just to pick up my expectations
>amongst the other Toreador. Friends such as these come along but once a life
>time if you are lucky. Once an immortality even so.

Hold tight to him then, pal. I follow you completely. I have been
lucky enough to make a handful of such friends, and I damn well won't
lose them if I can do anything about it.

>>Well I admit that, and I also admit that what young people consider
>>fun and games today will prolly seem strange to the kids two centuries
>>from now. So you can duel if you like to, pal, _I_ won't stop you. <g>
>
>I thankyou for your blessing and your wit, if only more of the cynical
>generation were more acclined to look back on happier times and smile.

Well were those happier times really all that happy? And there was
cynics back then too, some of 'em of your own Clan. One night you
ought to meet Lady Diane, the Toreador Primogen of Copenhagen. Her
Childe, Faustine von Rath, was Embraced at the time -- in 1773 I think
-- and Lady Diane Embraced her specifically because she was a skilled
writer who wanted to improve the lot of women.

If you think that 'grrrls' only appeared with the word itself, you
haven't ever met these two. <g>

>Yours in faith and friendship,
>
>Dominique LeLaert,
>Clan of the Rose.

Yvette, Anarch

LizzieW82

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"Detective VanDam" <gaud...@windsor.igs.net> Wrote:
<Snippage>

>Dear Valkyrie Dawn-Runner,
>
>It is your Toreador fascination for the art of war that I shall use as an
>equalizer. With any luck you will poses the typical Toreador weakness in
>this area, and I may have a chance by exploiting it. I was able to hold my
>own versus Romulus, a Toreador with a similar love of the art of war. I

>wonder if you will prove to be as vulnerable as he was?

I have a weakness Detective. And I'll admit, I can get rather enthralled by
the sight of a good fight. But don't trust this to let you win. Just try me.
I am much much harder to beat than that. <eg>

>Det. VanDam

LizzieW82

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Det. VanDam wrote this while playing Cops n' Robbers:

>>Oooooooh!!! Are you going to wear a cowboy hat, too, VanDam? I would love
>to
>>see you in your best cowboy outfit... <sweet smile>
>
>Not only do I intend to wear, a 10 gallon hat, but spirs as well. Silver if
>I can arrange it, and a silver belt buckle. If I can arrange it, silver
>bullets. I was a big fan of the Lone Ranger, who I would listen to three
>nights a week on the radio.

Well, on the second evening feel free to wear what ever you will, depending
on you wishes. But for the opening party I would recommend a little lests
conspicuous. The area of Phoenix we will be in, is frequented by College
students, artist types (who come for the coffee houses) and other such persons.
And Opium's Den is a known hang out for punks, bikers, and goths. It would
get a bit of notice for you to walk around the area dress as you described
above. <g> Just a word of warning.
Also, it seems that right now the Tournament will take place in
September/October or such. Most likely the latter. ((OOC: i just found out
september may be hecktic.))

Detective VanDam

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>>>Oooooooh!!! Are you going to wear a cowboy hat, too, VanDam? I would
love
>>to
>>>see you in your best cowboy outfit... <sweet smile>
>>
>>Not only do I intend to wear, a 10 gallon hat, but spirs as well. Silver
if
>>I can arrange it, and a silver belt buckle. If I can arrange it, silver
>>bullets. I was a big fan of the Lone Ranger, who I would listen to three
>>nights a week on the radio.
>
> Well, on the second evening feel free to wear what ever you will,
depending
>on you wishes. But for the opening party I would recommend a little lests
>conspicuous. The area of Phoenix we will be in, is frequented by College
>students, artist types (who come for the coffee houses) and other such
persons.
> And Opium's Den is a known hang out for punks, bikers, and goths. It
would
>get a bit of notice for you to walk around the area dress as you described
>above. <g> Just a word of warning.
> Also, it seems that right now the Tournament will take place in
>September/October or such. Most likely the latter. ((OOC: i just found out
>september may be hecktic.))

COFFEE'S! <grin> I hope they make a good Espresso, Swiss Mocha Capachino
would do as well, with a shot of Baileys or perhaps a Spanish Coffee, or for
that matter a flaming Irish Coffee. I can hardly wait until October, and yes
I will keep the Lone Ranger outfit for the next night. I am thinging more of
a Clint Eastwood theme for the first night, losts of dust and a parched
throat. The Coffee's should wash most of that away.

>V. Dawn-Runner


Det. VanDam

Simon Magid

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On Sun, 26 Apr 1998 00:15:57 -0400, "Detective VanDam"
<gaud...@windsor.igs.net> wrote:

>>on you wishes. But for the opening party I would recommend a little lests
>>conspicuous. The area of Phoenix we will be in, is frequented by College
>>students, artist types (who come for the coffee houses) and other such
>persons.
>> And Opium's Den is a known hang out for punks, bikers, and goths. It
>would
>>get a bit of notice for you to walk around the area dress as you described
>>above. <g> Just a word of warning.
>> Also, it seems that right now the Tournament will take place in
>>September/October or such. Most likely the latter. ((OOC: i just found out
>>september may be hecktic.))
>
>COFFEE'S! <grin> I hope they make a good Espresso, Swiss Mocha Capachino
>would do as well, with a shot of Baileys or perhaps a Spanish Coffee, or for
>that matter a flaming Irish Coffee. I can hardly wait until October, and yes
>I will keep the Lone Ranger outfit for the next night. I am thinging more of
>a Clint Eastwood theme for the first night, losts of dust and a parched
>throat. The Coffee's should wash most of that away.

Shit. We're supposed to hold a party in a place that could be overrun
by Cappucinoians at any moment? This might not be all that good idea,
Valkyrie, for when the Cappucinoians strike, the Real Brujah and the
Genuine Gangrel can't be far behind them. <g>

*pause*

Er. This is the Piper's doing, isn't it? She's a Genuine Gangrel.
She's covering for the Cappucinoians, isn't she?

>>V. Dawn-Runner

>Det. VanDam

Yvette, Anarch

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>>>Hey, Dammie. You ever hear the song about the little old lady that
>>>swallowed a fly? <eg>
>
>>>Yvette, Anarch
>
>>Didn't she wish she would die!, at the end of the song? If so yes I have.
>
>>Det. VanDam
>
>"And then the little old lady swallowed a horse.
>She died, of course."
>
><eg>
>
>Yvette, Anarch

Yes, The rhyme is quite clear on that point.

Det. VanDam

Detective VanDam

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<snip>

>>>Just as long as dear Yvette keeps Hannibal on a leash... I can live with
>>>that. ;-)
>
>>I still have that ghouled mouse Iprepared if she brought that packaderm to
>>Chicago. I could rent the mouse out to any party host that needs
protection.
>>I wonder if she will just ghoul a cat to handle my mouse, then I ghoul a
dog
>>to handle her cat, this could turn into a zoo.
>
>Hmmmm...... <smiling brightly> A zoo filled with ghouled animals? That's
an
>interesting idea, VanDam...
>

NO!, Animal Rights will be picketing the Cafe' Rose de la Nuit, before you
even open to the public.

<snip>

>>Have you considered the position of Den-Mother to the Order of AGVTM?
>
>Well... if the other members of the Order of AGVTM didn't object, I'd love
to
>be the Den-Mother to the Order of AGVTM. Thank you... I appreciate your
>thoughtfulness.
>

You have my vote, do we have a second or any other contenders?

<snip>

>>Not only do I intend to wear, a 10 gallon hat, but spirs as well. Silver
if
>>I can arrange it, and a silver belt buckle. If I can arrange it, silver
>>bullets. I was a big fan of the Lone Ranger, who I would listen to three
>>nights a week on the radio.
>
>I have a few calico-print cotton dresses in my closet, and it's been a
while
>since I've worn them... I think that I might have a good excuse to bring
them
>out of storage now...
>

Sounds great, would you mind if I escort you to the Ranch from the Opium
Den? I understand from Valkyrie Dawn-Runner that the Opium Den is not the
place for such attire. We will have to wait for the second evening. The
Opium Den is a Coffee House, I wonder how their coffees compare to yours?

<snip>

>>>>Your offer is most generous and appreciated. Please forward the cases to
>>>>Cafe' Rose de la Nuit. The loss of many of my personnal collections did
>>>>reveal that I have not yet overcome the attachment to material
>>>>possessions. I can not beleive how the loss of so many one of a kind
objects
>can tear a
>>>>riff so deep in my soul (that's if I have one).
>
>>>I know what you mean... It's tough when you lose things in a fire or any
>>>other disaster, for that matter. It hurts when those things that give you
>comfort
>>>and make a strange Haven seem more like home aren't there. The cases of
>Scotch
>>>arrived safely and they are in the AGVTM meeting room.
>
>>That's good news, but I gave them to the Order, and it just doesn't seem
>>right to take them back. They should be enjoyed by all.
>
>Thank you kindly, VanDam... Anthony had a glass last night when he stopped
by
>the Cafe' for a brief visit. He says that they are excellent!
>

I hope more Cainite join the Order of AGVTM, I think we can make a
difference for betterment of all Cainite Society. If a few bottles of single
malt scotch will save us, then I say drink up.

<snip>


>
>>>Not only that, but the Rack has become so Yuppiefied in the past five
>>>years, that it's a shame. All of the really good buildings are either
being
>torn
>>>down and made into parking lots, or renovated into cookie-cutter lofts to
the
>>>point of blandness. Wait a minute.... You lived in a warehouse, in
Toronto?
>>>Ack! <"Forever Knight" flashback kicks in at this point... >
>
>>Don't remind me. I told you I think some writer was following me around
and
>>secretly stealing my life. Let's not start this threat all over again
>>Charmaine. It makes me uncomfortable to know how close the Masquerade
comes
>>to being broken.
>
>I won't mention it again, Detective... <smiling sweetly and adjusting
halo>

There may be a Vampire mole leaking story line information to Mortal Media.

By all means, I am hiring a magician (mortal illusionist), and a special
effects team to build some death defying traps. They beleive it to be a
movie studio, low budget, vampire movie. These guys did my last Haven and it
was marvelous. I foolishly did not expect an attack from within.

<snip>

>I don't wear high heels (low heels are more comfortable for dancing), so
you
>don't have anything to worry about. It would be an honor to teach you how
to
>square dance...
>

Good, a Caitiff can never learn too few skills. You never know when a square
dance may save your life.

<snip>

>>>LOL! Anthony would _love_ that, since he _is_ the AGVTM's Lord of the
>Dance...
>
>>Then maybe Lord Strange will put on a Morris Dance demonstration.
>
><BG> Let's hope so!
>
>>>>>> Det. VanDam
>
>>>>>Lord Strange
>
>>>>Det. VanDam
>
>>>Charmaine
>
>>Det. VanDam
>
>Charmaine
>

Det. VanDam

Detective VanDam

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><Snippage>
>
>>Dear Valkyrie Dawn-Runner,
>>
>>It is your Toreador fascination for the art of war that I shall use as an
>>equalizer. With any luck you will poses the typical Toreador weakness in
>>this area, and I may have a chance by exploiting it. I was able to hold my
>>own versus Romulus, a Toreador with a similar love of the art of war. I
>>wonder if you will prove to be as vulnerable as he was?
>
>I have a weakness Detective. And I'll admit, I can get rather enthralled
by
>the sight of a good fight. But don't trust this to let you win. Just try
me.
>I am much much harder to beat than that. <eg>
>
I didn't live this long jumping head first into every fight. I will study
your moves and develope a plan. I am sending for the tapes of the Garou
battle in Copenhagen. I will ask Egon to mail me a copy and see if you leave
an opening that can be exploited.

>>Det. VanDam
>
>V. Dawn-Runner


Det. VanDam

Simon Magid

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On Sun, 26 Apr 1998 04:22:11 -0400, "Detective VanDam"
<gaud...@windsor.igs.net> wrote:

>I didn't live this long jumping head first into every fight. I will study
>your moves and develope a plan. I am sending for the tapes of the Garou
>battle in Copenhagen. I will ask Egon to mail me a copy and see if you leave
>an opening that can be exploited.

Sorry, I needed a tape for a movie on the late-late-late show and
recorded it on top of that one, I didn't think anyone would want it.

Don't look at me like that! It was 'Killer Cheerleaders From The
Reaches Beyond The Centre Of The Earth Against The Buck Naked Nazi
Amazons Of Procyon', and I couldn't bear not to make a recording of a
masterpiece like that!

>Det. VanDam

Egon
Nosferatu Primogen of Copenhagen
A man of taste and style

OOC: Sorry for reactivating another Wake NPC, but Gaudreau asked for
it. :) -- Simon

Mark Bradley

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In article <354ffe55...@news.uni2.dk>, tali...@inet.uni2.dk (Simon
Magid) wrote:


> Sorry, I needed a tape for a movie on the late-late-late show and
> recorded it on top of that one, I didn't think anyone would want it.
>
> Don't look at me like that! It was 'Killer Cheerleaders From The
> Reaches Beyond The Centre Of The Earth Against The Buck Naked Nazi
> Amazons Of Procyon', and I couldn't bear not to make a recording of a
> masterpiece like that!

You've got a copy of that? Damn, can you make me a recording? I'll trade
you a copy of "Killer Klowns From Outer Space". ;>

> Egon
> Nosferatu Primogen of Copenhagen
> A man of taste and style
>

Natalie
Tremere Chica of Cleveland
A woman of no taste or style

Stephanie Bradley at...@netcom.com

LizzieW82

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"Detective VanDam" <gaud...@windsor.igs.net> wrote while playing Cops'n
Robbers:

>><Snippage>
>>
>>>Dear Valkyrie Dawn-Runner,
>>>
>>>It is your Toreador fascination for the art of war that I shall use as an
>>>equalizer. With any luck you will poses the typical Toreador weakness in
>>>this area, and I may have a chance by exploiting it. I was able to hold my
>>>own versus Romulus, a Toreador with a similar love of the art of war. I
>>>wonder if you will prove to be as vulnerable as he was?
>>
>>I have a weakness Detective. And I'll admit, I can get rather enthralled
>by
>>the sight of a good fight. But don't trust this to let you win. Just try
>me.
>>I am much much harder to beat than that. <eg>
>>
>I didn't live this long jumping head first into every fight. I will study
>your moves and develope a plan. I am sending for the tapes of the Garou
>battle in Copenhagen. I will ask Egon to mail me a copy and see if you leave
>an opening that can be exploited.

<eg> Go for it. It's nice to see that some people still respect fighting and
don't just rush into it. Look at the tapes. It might actully help. But I
should warn you, my style morphs itself and changes frequently as a practice
and refine, practice and refine it till it all blends together. Currently it
is a blend of dancing, martial arts, western sword fighting, hand to hand and a
little something I call talent. <g> It's all so blended together I just call
it what it is the Dance.


>>>Det. VanDam
>>V. Dawn-Runner
>Det. VanDam

LizzieW82

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tali...@inet.uni2.dk (Simon Magid) playing Scrabble wrote:
>"Detective VanDam"
><gaud...@windsor.igs.net> wrote:
>>>on you wishes. But for the opening party I would recommend a little lests
>>>conspicuous. The area of Phoenix we will be in, is frequented by College
>>>students, artist types (who come for the coffee houses) and other such
>>persons.
>>> And Opium's Den is a known hang out for punks, bikers, and goths. It
>>would
>>>get a bit of notice for you to walk around the area dress as you described
>>>above. <g> Just a word of warning.
>>> Also, it seems that right now the Tournament will take place in
>>>September/October or such. Most likely the latter. ((OOC: i just found out
>>>september may be hecktic.))
>>
>>COFFEE'S! <grin> I hope they make a good Espresso, Swiss Mocha Capachino
>>would do as well, with a shot of Baileys or perhaps a Spanish Coffee, or for
>>that matter a flaming Irish Coffee.

Yes, they do make very good coffee, some of the best in the Valley of the
Sun. But they also for others more inclined (rather less) serve various
alchol, soft drinks and of course the prequisit blood for us Kindred.
Evidently, Opium neglected to mention the large number of kindred who hang out
there. Including the Prince and half the Primogen. ArGH! I hate politics.

>> I can hardly wait until October, and yes
>>I will keep the Lone Ranger outfit for the next night. I am thinging more of
>>a Clint Eastwood theme for the first night, losts of dust and a parched
>>throat. The Coffee's should wash most of that away.
>
>Shit. We're supposed to hold a party in a place that could be overrun
>by Cappucinoians at any moment? This might not be all that good idea,
>Valkyrie, for when the Cappucinoians strike, the Real Brujah and the
>Genuine Gangrel can't be far behind them. <g>
>
>*pause*
>
>Er. This is the Piper's doing, isn't it? She's a Genuine Gangrel.
>She's covering for the Cappucinoians, isn't she?

Ah yes, but my Salubri contacts have enlisted the aid of Faeries to guard the
doors from the Cappucinoians and Real Brujah, and the Genuine Gangrel will be
occupied by an attack by the Not-So-Honest Lasombra looking at real estate.


>>>V. Dawn-Runner
>>Det. VanDam
>Yvette, Anarch

V. Dawn-Runner

Luke Slater

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On 25 Apr 1998 22:48:16 GMT, lizz...@aol.com (LizzieW82) whilst in
some breed of ecstasy spake thusly:

>Det. VanDam wrote this while playing Cops n' Robbers:


>>>Oooooooh!!! Are you going to wear a cowboy hat, too, VanDam? I would love
>>to
>>>see you in your best cowboy outfit... <sweet smile>
>>

>>Not only do I intend to wear, a 10 gallon hat, but spirs as well. Silver if
>>I can arrange it, and a silver belt buckle. If I can arrange it, silver
>>bullets. I was a big fan of the Lone Ranger, who I would listen to three
>>nights a week on the radio.
>

> Well, on the second evening feel free to wear what ever you will, depending

>on you wishes. But for the opening party I would recommend a little lests
>conspicuous. The area of Phoenix we will be in, is frequented by College
>students, artist types (who come for the coffee houses) and other such persons.
> And Opium's Den is a known hang out for punks, bikers, and goths. It would
>get a bit of notice for you to walk around the area dress as you described
>above. <g> Just a word of warning.
> Also, it seems that right now the Tournament will take place in
>September/October or such. Most likely the latter. ((OOC: i just found out
>september may be hecktic.))
>

In which case, I may well be able to find the time to attend,
of which I am glad.

Radziwicz.

(OOC: October is good for me).

SFryar

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In article <6hudkl$7gi$1...@news.igs.net>, "Detective VanDam"
<gaud...@windsor.igs.net> writes:

>>>>Oooooooh!!! Are you going to wear a cowboy hat, too, VanDam? I would
>>>>love to see you in your best cowboy outfit... <sweet smile>

>>>Not only do I intend to wear, a 10 gallon hat, but spirs as well. Silver
>>>if I can arrange it, and a silver belt buckle. If I can arrange it, silver
>>>bullets. I was a big fan of the Lone Ranger, who I would listen to three
>>>nights a week on the radio.

>> Well, on the second evening feel free to wear what ever you will,
>>depending
>>on you wishes. But for the opening party I would recommend a little lests
>>conspicuous. The area of Phoenix we will be in, is frequented by College
>>students, artist types (who come for the coffee houses) and other such
>persons.
>> And Opium's Den is a known hang out for punks, bikers, and goths. It
>would
>>get a bit of notice for you to walk around the area dress as you described
>>above. <g> Just a word of warning.

Hmmm... so, calico dresses are out of the question, then... Maybe I can get
away with wearing
black leather pants, a silk shirt and one of those charming bolo ties with
turquoise and silver trimmings. Or a pair of Wrangler jeans, silk shirt, bolo
tie, and a pair of those black Tony Lama boots with all of that fancy
scrollwork on them... Or.... I can dig up a couple of those Stevie Nicks-look
black lace dresses with the high collars from the back of my closet.
Decisions, decisions!
Poor Anthony will have lots of problems if he should appear at Opium's Den
wearing a kilt... <g>

>> Also, it seems that right now the Tournament will take place in
>>September/October or such. Most likely the latter. ((OOC: i just found out
>>september may be hecktic.))
>

>COFFEE'S! <grin> I hope they make a good Espresso, Swiss Mocha Capachino
>would do as well, with a shot of Baileys or perhaps a Spanish Coffee, or for

>that matter a flaming Irish Coffee. I can hardly wait until October, and yes


>I will keep the Lone Ranger outfit for the next night. I am thinging more of
>a Clint Eastwood theme for the first night, losts of dust and a parched
>throat. The Coffee's should wash most of that away.

I look forward to seeing you then, VanDam... Are you going to wear a faded
wool poncho, and a slightly battered ten-gallon hat? If so... I think I'll
wear my black lace dress, and share a Swiss Mocha cappuchino with a shot of
Bailey's (or Grand Marnier) with you.

>>V. Dawn-Runner

>Det. VanDam

Charmaine


PKieferjr

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In article <354367d2...@nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk>, lj...@hermes.cam.ac.uk
(Luke Slater) writes:

>> Also, it seems that right now the Tournament will take place in
>>September/October or such. Most likely the latter. ((OOC: i just found out
>>september may be hecktic.))
>>

> In which case, I may well be able to find the time to attend,
>of which I am glad.
>
> Radziwicz.
>
> (OOC: October is good for me).


Geez. No activity from May to October. Ah'm gonna be bored outta mah skull.

Nick Barton, Ventrue, small arms merchant.
"He who dies with the most toys....dies."

PKieferjr

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In article <6hus30$do4$1...@news.igs.net>, "Detective VanDam"
<gaud...@windsor.igs.net> writes:

>I didn't live this long jumping head first into every fight. I will study
>your moves and develope a plan. I am sending for the tapes of the Garou
>battle in Copenhagen. I will ask Egon to mail me a copy and see if you leave
>an opening that can be exploited.

Hey, VanDam. Make sure you're not looking to closely. You just might find
that her weakness is being covered by a .30-06.

>>>Det. VanDam
>>
>>V. Dawn-Runner
>
>
>Det. VanDam

Nick Barton, Ventrue, small arms merchant.

PKieferjr

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Magid) writes:

>Don't look at me like that! It was 'Killer Cheerleaders From The
>Reaches Beyond The Centre Of The Earth Against The Buck Naked Nazi
>Amazons Of Procyon', and I couldn't bear not to make a recording of a
>masterpiece like that!

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!

Oh, God! That was funny as hell!

Detective VanDam

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>>I didn't live this long jumping head first into every fight. I will study
>>your moves and develope a plan. I am sending for the tapes of the Garou
>>battle in Copenhagen. I will ask Egon to mail me a copy and see if you
leave
>>an opening that can be exploited.
>
>Sorry, I needed a tape for a movie on the late-late-late show and
>recorded it on top of that one, I didn't think anyone would want it.
>
>Don't look at me like that! It was 'Killer Cheerleaders From The
>Reaches Beyond The Centre Of The Earth Against The Buck Naked Nazi
>Amazons Of Procyon', and I couldn't bear not to make a recording of a
>masterpiece like that!
>
You did what? Well send a copy of the tape over anyway. I thing I missed
that movie and it does sound like a classic.

>>Det. VanDam


>
>Egon
>Nosferatu Primogen of Copenhagen


Det. VanDam

Detective VanDam

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<snip>

>>I didn't live this long jumping head first into every fight. I will study
>>your moves and develope a plan. I am sending for the tapes of the Garou
>>battle in Copenhagen. I will ask Egon to mail me a copy and see if you
leave
>>an opening that can be exploited.
>

> <eg> Go for it. It's nice to see that some people still respect fighting
and
>don't just rush into it. Look at the tapes. It might actully help. But I
>should warn you, my style morphs itself and changes frequently as a
practice
>and refine, practice and refine it till it all blends together. Currently
it
>is a blend of dancing, martial arts, western sword fighting, hand to hand
and a
>little something I call talent. <g> It's all so blended together I just
call
>it what it is the Dance.

A dance plays to a rythem, learn the rythem and I can predict the changes in
the Dance. I wonder what song plays in Valkyries head?

Detective VanDam

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>>I didn't live this long jumping head first into every fight. I will study
>>your moves and develope a plan. I am sending for the tapes of the Garou
>>battle in Copenhagen. I will ask Egon to mail me a copy and see if you
leave
>>an opening that can be exploited.
>
>Hey, VanDam. Make sure you're not looking to closely. You just might find
>that her weakness is being covered by a .30-06.
>
And who might have sold her such a weapon? Probably has the serial number
filed off.

>>Det. VanDam

Luke Slater

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On 26 Apr 1998 20:23:35 GMT, sfr...@aol.com (SFryar) whilst in some

breed of ecstasy spake thusly:

>In article <6hudkl$7gi$1...@news.igs.net>, "Detective VanDam"

Well, works for me. Being a biker I shouldn't have too much
trouble finding something to wear. As for the ranch, I think I'll have
to get me a pair of Levi's and a big shirt. Hope no-one expects us to
ride horses though. I was never any good at that, and besides, Shadow
would never forgive me.

>>> Also, it seems that right now the Tournament will take place in
>>>September/October or such. Most likely the latter. ((OOC: i just found out
>>>september may be hecktic.))
>>

>>COFFEE'S! <grin> I hope they make a good Espresso, Swiss Mocha Capachino
>>would do as well, with a shot of Baileys or perhaps a Spanish Coffee, or for
>>that matter a flaming Irish Coffee. I can hardly wait until October, and yes
>>I will keep the Lone Ranger outfit for the next night. I am thinging more of
>>a Clint Eastwood theme for the first night, losts of dust and a parched
>>throat. The Coffee's should wash most of that away.
>

If it's proper cowboy coffee it should wash - or eat - away
everything else as well :-)

>I look forward to seeing you then, VanDam... Are you going to wear a faded
>wool poncho, and a slightly battered ten-gallon hat? If so... I think I'll
>wear my black lace dress, and share a Swiss Mocha cappuchino with a shot of
>Bailey's (or Grand Marnier) with you.
>

If this is to be a western do, surely you'll want a big mug of
quintuple espresso, with a shot of rotgut to give it a little kick.

>>>V. Dawn-Runner
>
>>Det. VanDam
>
>Charmaine
>

Pike.

"I think we're all bugs and mice, and are only different
expressions of an all-inclusive cheese."
- Charles Fort.

Luke Slater

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On 26 Apr 1998 20:24:23 GMT, pkie...@aol.com (PKieferjr) whilst in

some breed of ecstasy spake thusly:

>In article <354367d2...@nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk>, lj...@hermes.cam.ac.uk


>(Luke Slater) writes:
>
>>> Also, it seems that right now the Tournament will take place in
>>>September/October or such. Most likely the latter. ((OOC: i just found out
>>>september may be hecktic.))
>>>

>> In which case, I may well be able to find the time to attend,
>>of which I am glad.
>>
>> Radziwicz.
>>
>> (OOC: October is good for me).
>
>
>Geez. No activity from May to October. Ah'm gonna be bored outta mah skull.
>

>Nick Barton, Ventrue, small arms merchant.
>"He who dies with the most toys....dies."

Well I'm sure you'll find something to do. Sell some guns or
something. Speaking of which, do you only sell wholesale or do you
ship individual items?
Pike.

OOC: If you need something to do, I think lots of us have
plenty of exams we'd be glad to let you sit :-)
Luke.

SFryar

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In article <6hurl0$dj7$1...@news.igs.net>, "Detective VanDam"
<gaud...@windsor.igs.net> writes:

><snip>

>>>>Just as long as dear Yvette keeps Hannibal on a leash... I can live with
>>>>that. ;-)

>>>I still have that ghouled mouse Iprepared if she brought that packaderm to
>>>Chicago. I could rent the mouse out to any party host that needs
>>>protection. I wonder if she will just ghoul a cat to handle my mouse, then I
ghoul a
>>>dog to handle her cat, this could turn into a zoo.

>>Hmmmm...... <smiling brightly> A zoo filled with ghouled animals? That's
>>an interesting idea, VanDam...

>NO!, Animal Rights will be picketing the Cafe' Rose de la Nuit, before you
>even open to the public.

Okay... It was just a thought, VanDam... No harm done. The Cafe' opened to
the public last month, and business is quite brisk, thank you... <g> The
tourists are starting to find the place, we've got a good crowd of regulars
coming in from the various offices in the area, and it looks like things are
getting off to a good start! This is going to be a good summer!

><snip>

>>>Have you considered the position of Den-Mother to the Order of AGVTM?

>>Well... if the other members of the Order of AGVTM didn't object, I'd love
>>to be the Den-Mother to the Order of AGVTM. Thank you... I appreciate your
>>thoughtfulness.

>You have my vote, do we have a second or any other contenders?

Anthony says that he'd second the motion....

><snip>

>>>Not only do I intend to wear, a 10 gallon hat, but spirs as well. Silver
>>>if I can arrange it, and a silver belt buckle. If I can arrange it, silver
>>>bullets. I was a big fan of the Lone Ranger, who I would listen to three
>>>nights a week on the radio.

>>I have a few calico-print cotton dresses in my closet, and it's been a
>>while since I've worn them... I think that I might have a good excuse to
bring
>>them out of storage now...

>Sounds great, would you mind if I escort you to the Ranch from the Opium
>Den? I understand from Valkyrie Dawn-Runner that the Opium Den is not the
>place for such attire. We will have to wait for the second evening. The
>Opium Den is a Coffee House, I wonder how their coffees compare to yours?

I'd love that, VanDam... Thank you! I'm sure that the coffee at the Opium Den
is good, but...
there's just something special about home-brewed coffee, tho'...

><snip>

>>>>>Your offer is most generous and appreciated. Please forward the cases to
>>>>>Cafe' Rose de la Nuit. The loss of many of my personnal collections did
>>>>>reveal that I have not yet overcome the attachment to material
>>>>>possessions. I can not beleive how the loss of so many one of a kind
>>>>>objects can tear a riff so deep in my soul (that's if I have one).

>>>>I know what you mean... It's tough when you lose things in a fire or any
>>>>other disaster, for that matter. It hurts when those things that give you
>>>>comfort and make a strange Haven seem more like home aren't there. The
cases
>>>>of Scotch arrived safely and they are in the AGVTM meeting room.

>>>That's good news, but I gave them to the Order, and it just doesn't seem
>>>right to take them back. They should be enjoyed by all.

>>Thank you kindly, VanDam... Anthony had a glass last night when he stopped
>>by the Cafe' for a brief visit. He says that they are excellent!

>I hope more Cainite join the Order of AGVTM, I think we can make a
>difference for betterment of all Cainite Society. If a few bottles of single
>malt scotch will save us, then I say drink up.

Ditto! :-)

><snip>

>>>>Not only that, but the Rack has become so Yuppiefied in the past five
>>>>years, that it's a shame. All of the really good buildings are either
>>>>being torn down and made into parking lots, or renovated into cookie-cutter
>>>> lofts to the point of blandness. Wait a minute.... You lived in a
warehouse,
>>>>in Toronto? Ack! <"Forever Knight" flashback kicks in at this point... >

>>>Don't remind me. I told you I think some writer was following me around
>>>and secretly stealing my life. Let's not start this threat all over again
>>>Charmaine. It makes me uncomfortable to know how close the Masquerade
>>>comes to being broken.

>>I won't mention it again, Detective... <smiling sweetly and adjusting
>>halo>

>There may be a Vampire mole leaking story line information to Mortal Media.

Perhaps... <looking innocent...>

Can't wait to see the results of all of our hard work!

><snip>

>>I don't wear high heels (low heels are more comfortable for dancing), so
>>you don't have anything to worry about. It would be an honor to teach you how
>>to square dance...

>Good, a Caitiff can never learn too few skills. You never know when a square
>dance may save your life.

That's quite true. It's always good to learn new skills. They can come in
handy at the most unexpected times!

><snip>

>>>>LOL! Anthony would _love_ that, since he _is_ the AGVTM's Lord of the
>>>>Dance...

>>>Then maybe Lord Strange will put on a Morris Dance demonstration.

>><BG> Let's hope so!

>>>>>>> Det. VanDam

>>>>>>Lord Strange

>>>>>Det. VanDam

>>>>Charmaine

>>>Det. VanDam

>>Charmaine

>Det. VanDam

Charmaine


Simon Magid

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On Sun, 26 Apr 1998 16:07:10 GMT, at...@netcom.com (Mark Bradley)
wrote:

>> Don't look at me like that! It was 'Killer Cheerleaders From The
>> Reaches Beyond The Centre Of The Earth Against The Buck Naked Nazi
>> Amazons Of Procyon', and I couldn't bear not to make a recording of a
>> masterpiece like that!

>You've got a copy of that? Damn, can you make me a recording?

Sure I can, I'll just have to figure out how to convert the damn shit
to NTSC. Shouldn't be a problem.

> I'll trade
>you a copy of "Killer Klowns From Outer Space". ;>

Nah, I don't want that one, it's crap. There were almost two minutes
total in it where there wasn't any violence going on at all, and I
don't like movies where they waste time explaining why they fight,
intellectual shit like that puts me off.

>Natalie
>Tremere Chica of Cleveland
>A woman of no taste or style

A woman after my heart. ;]

Egon, Nosferatu Primogen of Copenhagen
Applying for membership in the NSA ;] (no, not the National Security
Agency)

Detective VanDam

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<snip>

>
>Hmmm... so, calico dresses are out of the question, then... Maybe I can
get
>away with wearing
>black leather pants, a silk shirt and one of those charming bolo ties with
>turquoise and silver trimmings. Or a pair of Wrangler jeans, silk shirt,
bolo
>tie, and a pair of those black Tony Lama boots with all of that fancy
>scrollwork on them... Or.... I can dig up a couple of those Stevie
Nicks-look
>black lace dresses with the high collars from the back of my closet.
>Decisions, decisions!
>Poor Anthony will have lots of problems if he should appear at Opium's Den
>wearing a kilt... <g>

Good choice, I think Lady Francessca Di Gadrielle will be hard pressed to
match you. Yvette will be green with envy.

>>COFFEE'S! <grin> I hope they make a good Espresso, Swiss Mocha Capachino
>>would do as well, with a shot of Baileys or perhaps a Spanish Coffee, or
for
>>that matter a flaming Irish Coffee. I can hardly wait until October, and
yes
>>I will keep the Lone Ranger outfit for the next night. I am thinging more
of
>>a Clint Eastwood theme for the first night, losts of dust and a parched
>>throat. The Coffee's should wash most of that away.
>

>I look forward to seeing you then, VanDam... Are you going to wear a faded
>wool poncho, and a slightly battered ten-gallon hat? If so... I think I'll
>wear my black lace dress, and share a Swiss Mocha cappuchino with a shot of
>Bailey's (or Grand Marnier) with you.
>

Yes the poncho is the final piece I will add. I still need to arrange for a
white horse. Do you ride Charmaine?

>>Det. VanDam
>
>Charmaine


OOC: It has just occurred to me that with only 5 to 6 months to go to the
Party, a Toreadore must start planning now to have just he right outfit to
ware. We are going to have to rewrite the Party FAQ to make allowances for
this condition.


PKieferjr

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In article <6i110f$bhh$1...@news.igs.net>, "Detective VanDam"
<gaud...@windsor.igs.net> writes:

>>>I didn't live this long jumping head first into every fight. I will study
>>>your moves and develope a plan. I am sending for the tapes of the Garou
>>>battle in Copenhagen. I will ask Egon to mail me a copy and see if you
>leave
>>>an opening that can be exploited.
>>
>>Hey, VanDam. Make sure you're not looking to closely. You just might find
>>that her weakness is being covered by a .30-06.
>>
>And who might have sold her such a weapon? Probably has the serial number
>filed off.

Shame on you, son. Did Ah say someone sold her somethin'? Yer slippin'.

Mike

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OOC: Only five months? But the catalogue takes at least 28 days for delivery!
ehat if it's the wrong size or it needs to go back. Oh parties, what trouble
they bring.


Simon Magid

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On Sun, 26 Apr 1998 23:47:01 -0400, "Detective VanDam"
<gaud...@windsor.igs.net> wrote:

>>Don't look at me like that! It was 'Killer Cheerleaders From The
>>Reaches Beyond The Centre Of The Earth Against The Buck Naked Nazi
>>Amazons Of Procyon', and I couldn't bear not to make a recording of a
>>masterpiece like that!

>You did what? Well send a copy of the tape over anyway. I thing I missed


>that movie and it does sound like a classic.

Your copy is on the way, I've finally convinced my stupid videos to
convert tapes from VHS to NTSC. (NTSC, that's an abbreviation for
Never The Same Colour, right?)

And it is a classic. The body count in just the opening scene of it
was bigger than that of the conclusion of 'Commando'. Mmmm. ;]

SFryar

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In article <6i11fd$bq3$1...@news.igs.net>, "Detective VanDam"
<gaud...@windsor.igs.net> writes:

><snip>
>>
>>Hmmm... so, calico dresses are out of the question, then... Maybe I can
>get
>>away with wearing
>>black leather pants, a silk shirt and one of those charming bolo ties with
>>turquoise and silver trimmings. Or a pair of Wrangler jeans, silk shirt,
>bolo
>>tie, and a pair of those black Tony Lama boots with all of that fancy
>>scrollwork on them... Or.... I can dig up a couple of those Stevie
>Nicks-look
>>black lace dresses with the high collars from the back of my closet.
>>Decisions, decisions!
>>Poor Anthony will have lots of problems if he should appear at Opium's Den
>>wearing a kilt... <g>
>
>Good choice, I think Lady Francessca Di Gadrielle will be hard pressed to
>match you. Yvette will be green with envy.

Thanks for the compliment.... I'll have three suitcases full of cool clothes to
wear!

>>>COFFEE'S! <grin> I hope they make a good Espresso, Swiss Mocha Capachino
>>>would do as well, with a shot of Baileys or perhaps a Spanish Coffee, or
>for
>>>that matter a flaming Irish Coffee. I can hardly wait until October, and
>yes
>>>I will keep the Lone Ranger outfit for the next night. I am thinging more
>of
>>>a Clint Eastwood theme for the first night, losts of dust and a parched
>>>throat. The Coffee's should wash most of that away.
>>
>>I look forward to seeing you then, VanDam... Are you going to wear a faded
>>wool poncho, and a slightly battered ten-gallon hat? If so... I think I'll
>>wear my black lace dress, and share a Swiss Mocha cappuchino with a shot of
>>Bailey's (or Grand Marnier) with you.
>>
>Yes the poncho is the final piece I will add. I still need to arrange for a
>white horse. Do you ride Charmaine?

Yes, I do!! I was fortunate to go on moonlight rides when my Sire and I lived
in France back in the '20's. We stayed at the chateau of a wealthy French
Ventrue, Count Phillipe D'Almasie, on the outskirts of Paris. He loved to stage
the Hunt of Living Prey Salon for his guests. We'd chase after our intended
victim while we rode on horseback... It was amazing! Even after the Salon
ended, we'd still ride late at night. Oddly enough, the horses were never
afraid of me, even though I was a vampire.

>>>Det. VanDam

>>Charmaine

Charmaine

>OOC: It has just occurred to me that with only 5 to 6 months to go to the
>Party, a Toreadore must start planning now to have just he right outfit to
>ware. We are going to have to rewrite the Party FAQ to make allowances for
>this condition.

OOC: That's so true.... Charmaine's been going through her closets during
the past few nights, checking out her wardrobe for the occasion. She wants to
make sure that she'll have the right clothing to wear, so she'll blend in
easily.... but when you look like a taller (5' 11-1/2") version of Halle
Berry.... it's not that easy to blend in with the crowd. <bg>

StephiLyn


Detective VanDam

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<snip>

>>OOC: It has just occurred to me that with only 5 to 6 months to go to the
>>Party, a Toreadore must start planning now to have just he right outfit to
>>ware. We are going to have to rewrite the Party FAQ to make allowances for
>>this condition.
>>
>
>OOC: Only five months? But the catalogue takes at least 28 days for
delivery!
>ehat if it's the wrong size or it needs to go back. Oh parties, what
trouble
>they bring.


Ladies and Gentlemen,

Do Toreadors require a long lead time to prepare for parties? Or do all
Cainite require a great deal of preparation time and only the Toreadors are
being centered out as overly attentive to detail. I for one, like to plan
my outfit in advance. I did not a great deal of preparation for the Grande
Opening Party, and now I detect another trend to discover what kind of
attire will be appropriate for the next party.

It can take a long time to prepare an outfit, (Lord Strange has not managed
to open an all night Shopping Mall for Cainites in Chicago yet), I have to
have each outfit tailored. Ceremonial weapons are another matter, Nick has
not provided a list of weapons available for purchase (less nukes). This
means I have to spend weeks, looking for claymores, or silver bullets etc.

I think it is important to give at least one month minimum between parties
to discuss and acquire the correct outfit for the occasion. Now in the case
of the Tournament, we will require two outfits. One for the Opium Pit and
the other for the Ranch. I suspect a few will pack a travelling outfit, only
a few seem to care about the close they wear on leaving, (the last few party
outfits were ruined by blood and gore for most party goers).

I think Valkyrie Dawn-Runner, You have described the Opium Den will enough
for me to choose my first evening wardrobe, and I hope to ware a Lone Ranger
outfit at the Ranch, what is the dress warn during the events themselves?

Det. VanDam

Detective VanDam

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>>> Don't look at me like that! It was 'Killer Cheerleaders From The
>>> Reaches Beyond The Centre Of The Earth Against The Buck Naked Nazi
>>> Amazons Of Procyon', and I couldn't bear not to make a recording of a
>>> masterpiece like that!
>
>>You've got a copy of that? Damn, can you make me a recording?
>
>Sure I can, I'll just have to figure out how to convert the damn shit
>to NTSC. Shouldn't be a problem.
>
>> I'll trade
>>you a copy of "Killer Klowns From Outer Space". ;>
>
>Nah, I don't want that one, it's crap. There were almost two minutes
>total in it where there wasn't any violence going on at all, and I
>don't like movies where they waste time explaining why they fight,
>intellectual shit like that puts me off.
>
>>Natalie
>>Tremere Chica of Cleveland
>>A woman of no taste or style
>
>A woman after my heart. ;]
>
>Egon, Nosferatu Primogen of Copenhagen
>Applying for membership in the NSA ;] (no, not the National Security
>Agency)

Natalie, I'll trade you Attack of the Killer Tomatoes for Killer Klowns From
Outer Space. Egon, would you be interested in a copy of Three Stooges full
length movie, " The Three Stooges in Orbit" (1962). The Venician women are
out of this world for a copy of 'Killer Cheerleaders From The Reaches Beyond
The Centre Of The Earth Against The Buck Naked Nazi Amazons Of Procyon'.
BTW, is this movie subtitled?

Det. VanDam

Detective VanDam

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>>>>I didn't live this long jumping head first into every fight. I will
study
>>>>your moves and develope a plan. I am sending for the tapes of the Garou
>>>>battle in Copenhagen. I will ask Egon to mail me a copy and see if you
>>leave
>>>>an opening that can be exploited.
>>>
>>>Hey, VanDam. Make sure you're not looking to closely. You just might
find
>>>that her weakness is being covered by a .30-06.
>>>
>>And who might have sold her such a weapon? Probably has the serial number
>>filed off.
>
>Shame on you, son. Did Ah say someone sold her somethin'? Yer slippin'.
>
>Nick Barton, Ventrue, small arms merchant.


Nick Barton,

Are you saying you have your telephoto sites on Valkyrie Dawn-Runner? Why
didn't you just say so. You southern Cainites are so hard to understand, you
never come right to the point.

Det. VanDam

Simon Magid

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On Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:45:06 -0400, "Detective VanDam"
<gaud...@windsor.igs.net> wrote:

>Natalie, I'll trade you Attack of the Killer Tomatoes for Killer Klowns From
>Outer Space. Egon, would you be interested in a copy of Three Stooges full
>length movie, " The Three Stooges in Orbit" (1962).

The Three Stooges? A bit artsy-fartsy and highbrow for me, but OK,
I'll try it.

> The Venician women are
>out of this world for a copy of 'Killer Cheerleaders From The Reaches Beyond
>The Centre Of The Earth Against The Buck Naked Nazi Amazons Of Procyon'.
>BTW, is this movie subtitled?

Why in the world should it be? No-one talks in it anyway, all the
dialogue in it consists of moaning, screaming, howling, panting and an
occasional inarticulate roar or two.

>
>Det. VanDam

Mark Bradley

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In article <6i10in$bf9$1...@news.igs.net>, "Detective VanDam"
<gaud...@windsor.igs.net> wrote:

> <snip>

> A dance plays to a rythem, learn the rythem and I can predict the changes in
> the Dance. I wonder what song plays in Valkyries head?

"The Ride of the Valkyries", maybe?

*ducks and runs*


>
>
> >>Det. VanDam
> >V. Dawn-Runner
>
>
> Det. VanDam

Kill the wabbit,
Natalie

Stephanie Bradley at...@netcom.com

Mark Bradley

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In article <354aec6a...@news.uni2.dk>, tali...@inet.uni2.dk (Simon
Magid) wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Apr 1998 16:07:10 GMT, at...@netcom.com (Mark Bradley)
> wrote:
>

> >> Don't look at me like that! It was 'Killer Cheerleaders From The


> >> Reaches Beyond The Centre Of The Earth Against The Buck Naked Nazi

> >> Amazons Of Procyon', and I couldn't bear not to make a recording of a
> >> masterpiece like that!
>
> >You've got a copy of that? Damn, can you make me a recording?
>
> Sure I can, I'll just have to figure out how to convert the damn shit
> to NTSC. Shouldn't be a problem.
>
> > I'll trade
> >you a copy of "Killer Klowns From Outer Space". ;>
>
> Nah, I don't want that one, it's crap. There were almost two minutes
> total in it where there wasn't any violence going on at all, and I
> don't like movies where they waste time explaining why they fight,
> intellectual shit like that puts me off.

Alright. You've driven me to the point of desperation. I'll trade you a
copy of "Dead Alive". It's got zombies, killer rat-monkeys, decapitation,
removal of various limbs, an undead gastrointestinal tract with
personality, gore, blood, tapioca pudding, zombie sex, zombie babies, and
one kung-fu priest. Sure, there's a plot in there, but it shores up the
good stuff rather well. ;>

>
> >Natalie
> >Tremere Chica of Cleveland
> >A woman of no taste or style
>
> A woman after my heart. ;]
>

> Egon, Nosferatu Primogen of Copenhagen

> Applying for membership in the NSA ;] (no, not the National Security
> Agency)

Natalie

Stephanie Bradley at...@netcom.com

Simon Magid

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On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 02:23:38 GMT, at...@netcom.com (Mark Bradley)
wrote:

>> Nah, I don't want that one, it's crap. There were almost two minutes


>> total in it where there wasn't any violence going on at all, and I
>> don't like movies where they waste time explaining why they fight,
>> intellectual shit like that puts me off.

>Alright. You've driven me to the point of desperation. I'll trade you a
>copy of "Dead Alive". It's got zombies, killer rat-monkeys, decapitation,
>removal of various limbs, an undead gastrointestinal tract with
>personality, gore, blood, tapioca pudding, zombie sex, zombie babies, and
>one kung-fu priest. Sure, there's a plot in there, but it shores up the
>good stuff rather well. ;>

Hey, kid, don't worry, I intended to send you a copy anyway. I
consider it a duty to see to that kids get a proper education, which
includes making sure they have a chance to watch edifying movies. Your
copy is on its way.

And as for 'Dead Alive', I've already seen it. It was good, though a
tad more philosophical than I normally like. But as you said, the plot
didn't get in the way of the good stuff so I liked it anyway.

>Natalie

PKieferjr

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In article <6i3afo$m9g$1...@news.igs.net>, "Detective VanDam"
<gaud...@windsor.igs.net> writes:

Maybe yes, maybe no. Think Ah'm gonna say anything? Probably not. Never tell
'em everything. That way, you can keep an ace in th' hole fer when ya need it.

Nick Barton, Ventrue, small arms merchant.

SFryar

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In article <6i357d$goc$1...@news.igs.net>, "Detective VanDam"
<gaud...@windsor.igs.net> writes:

><snip>
>>>OOC: It has just occurred to me that with only 5 to 6 months to go to the
>>>Party, a Toreadore must start planning now to have just he right outfit to
>>>ware. We are going to have to rewrite the Party FAQ to make allowances for
>>>this condition.
>>>
>>
>>OOC: Only five months? But the catalogue takes at least 28 days for
>delivery!
>>ehat if it's the wrong size or it needs to go back. Oh parties, what
>trouble
>>they bring.
>
>
>Ladies and Gentlemen,

>Do Toreadors require a long lead time to prepare for parties? Or do all
>Cainite require a great deal of preparation time and only the Toreadors are
>being centered out as overly attentive to detail. I for one, like to plan
>my outfit in advance. I did not a great deal of preparation for the Grande
>Opening Party, and now I detect another trend to discover what kind of
>attire will be appropriate for the next party.

Well... It didn't take me too long to prepare the Grand Opening of the Cafe'
Rose de la Nuit (a grand total of two weeks, in fact!), and I already had that
rose-pink tuxedo that I wore to the party in my closet. However, I like to
have at least four to five different outfits (plus jewelry and shoes) on hand,
so I can make the right choice about what I want to wear to a particular party.

>It can take a long time to prepare an outfit, (Lord Strange has not managed
>to open an all night Shopping Mall for Cainites in Chicago yet), I have to
>have each outfit tailored. Ceremonial weapons are another matter, Nick has
>not provided a list of weapons available for purchase (less nukes). This
>means I have to spend weeks, looking for claymores, or silver bullets etc.

I didn't have any problems finding things to wear to the Wake last year,
either. You can never go wrong with a couple of designer suits; one in basic
black and one in soft gray. I'm able to get my clothes off-the-rack from the
major department stores in Chicago (thank goodness for personal shoppers!!!),
and I find that I don't have to have too many alterations made to the clothes
that I wear.

I have a special, climate-controlled closet on the third floor of my Haven
that's filled with most of the clothes that I wore, ten, twenty and even thirty
years ago. Isn't it amazing how some fashions can come back in style so
quickly... That's also the place where I have a dozen of those "Stevie Nicks
Gothic-style" dresses.

>I think it is important to give at least one month minimum between parties
>to discuss and acquire the correct outfit for the occasion. Now in the case
>of the Tournament, we will require two outfits. One for the Opium Pit and
>the other for the Ranch. I suspect a few will pack a travelling outfit, only
>a few seem to care about the close they wear on leaving, (the last few party
>outfits were ruined by blood and gore for most party goers).

Ah, yes.... I got a few bloodsatins on the jacket of my rose-pink tux, and I
had to have it dry-cleaned. Bloodstains *don't* come out when an article of
clothing is dry cleaned, and I had to have the jacket dyed black in order to
hide the bloodstains. When I leave to head for the ranch, I want to be
comfortable while I travel, so, I'll be wearing a pair of bluejeans, a pink
gingham shirt, a denim jacket, and a pair of comfortable shoes...

>I think Valkyrie Dawn-Runner, You have described the Opium Den will enough
>for me to choose my first evening wardrobe, and I hope to ware a Lone Ranger
>outfit at the Ranch, what is the dress warn during the events themselves?

My first evening wardrobe will be that black lace "Stevie Nicks Gothic-style"
dress that I'll wear to the Opium Den... and my traveling outfit will also be
worn at the Ranch. I'll also bring along a pair of black leather pants,
another pair of bluejeans, two blue chambray shirts... a pair of boots, a pair
of black, low heeled pumps (perfedt for dancing), a black leather jacket....
and another dress, along with appropriate undergarments and sleepwear. :-)

>Det. VanDam

Charmaine
Forever fashionable....


SFryar

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In article <6i3a9i$m6k$1...@news.igs.net>, "Detective VanDam"
<gaud...@windsor.igs.net> writes:

>>>> Don't look at me like that! It was 'Killer Cheerleaders From The
>>>> Reaches Beyond The Centre Of The Earth Against The Buck Naked Nazi
>>>> Amazons Of Procyon', and I couldn't bear not to make a recording of a
>>>> masterpiece like that!
>>
>>>You've got a copy of that? Damn, can you make me a recording?
>>
>>Sure I can, I'll just have to figure out how to convert the damn shit
>>to NTSC. Shouldn't be a problem.
>>

>>> I'll trade


>>>you a copy of "Killer Klowns From Outer Space". ;>
>>

>>Nah, I don't want that one, it's crap. There were almost two minutes
>>total in it where there wasn't any violence going on at all, and I
>>don't like movies where they waste time explaining why they fight,
>>intellectual shit like that puts me off.
>>

>>>Natalie
>>>Tremere Chica of Cleveland
>>>A woman of no taste or style
>>
>>A woman after my heart. ;]
>>

>>Egon, Nosferatu Primogen of Copenhagen

>>Applying for membership in the NSA ;] (no, not the National Security
>>Agency)
>

>Natalie, I'll trade you Attack of the Killer Tomatoes for Killer Klowns From
>Outer Space. Egon, would you be interested in a copy of Three Stooges full

>length movie, " The Three Stooges in Orbit" (1962). The Venician women are


>out of this world for a copy of 'Killer Cheerleaders From The Reaches Beyond
>The Centre Of The Earth Against The Buck Naked Nazi Amazons Of Procyon'.
>BTW, is this movie subtitled?

What???? You mean to tell me that no one here would like to have a copy of
"Plan 9 from Outer Space", "Class of Nuke-'em High" Parts 1 and 2 and "Det.
Kabukiman, N.Y.P.D." ? I also have copies of the the three "It's Alive"
killer-infant movies, too.

>Det. VanDam

Anthony
Brujah Sheriff of Chicago
(who has a crappy video library)

David Townsend

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from "Detective VanDam" <gaud...@windsor.igs.net> contains these words:


> <snip>
> >>OOC: It has just occurred to me that with only 5 to 6 months to go to the
> >>Party, a Toreadore must start planning now to have just he right outfit to
> >>ware. We are going to have to rewrite the Party FAQ to make allowances for
> >>this condition.
> >>
> >
> >OOC: Only five months? But the catalogue takes at least 28 days for
> delivery!
> >ehat if it's the wrong size or it needs to go back. Oh parties, what
> trouble
> >they bring.

You mean that you buy from catalogues. Oh, lawks, how gauche.

> Ladies and Gentlemen,

> Do Toreadors require a long lead time to prepare for parties? Or do all
> Cainite require a great deal of preparation time and only the Toreadors are
> being centered out as overly attentive to detail. I for one, like to plan
> my outfit in advance. I did not a great deal of preparation for the Grande
> Opening Party, and now I detect another trend to discover what kind of
> attire will be appropriate for the next party.

> It can take a long time to prepare an outfit, (Lord Strange has not managed


> to open an all night Shopping Mall for Cainites in Chicago yet), I have to
> have each outfit tailored. Ceremonial weapons are another matter, Nick has
> not provided a list of weapons available for purchase (less nukes). This
> means I have to spend weeks, looking for claymores, or silver bullets etc.

I sympathize to an extent but confess that, for myself, I do not have
such problems. Mayhaps it is because the Ventrue have been in London
for such a long period of time but gentlemen can always get the
tailors to visit. If there is a hurry, I know a man in Singapore who
can produce me a suit in 8 hours.
Should you have any problems acquiring any items, feel free to
contact me. Although I am not, as yet, establishing a mall, George
has offered to manage a mail-order servic for Kindred which would
supply those items which someimes causes raised eyebrows amongst the
more naif storekeepers.

> I think it is important to give at least one month minimum between parties
> to discuss and acquire the correct outfit for the occasion. Now in the case
> of the Tournament, we will require two outfits. One for the Opium Pit and
> the other for the Ranch. I suspect a few will pack a travelling outfit, only
> a few seem to care about the close they wear on leaving, (the last few party
> outfits were ruined by blood and gore for most party goers).

Only two outfits? Why do you think that I have to travel in a VC-10?

> I think Valkyrie Dawn-Runner, You have described the Opium Den will enough
> for me to choose my first evening wardrobe, and I hope to ware a Lone Ranger
> outfit at the Ranch, what is the dress warn during the events themselves?

For myself, being a traditionalist, I always fight duels in
shirtsleeves and britches. It is so much easier to throw away the
shirt when it has been made full of holes.

> Det. VanDam


Mark Bradley

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In article <6i3a9i$m6k$1...@news.igs.net>, "Detective VanDam"
<gaud...@windsor.igs.net> wrote:

[SNIP!]

> Natalie, I'll trade you Attack of the Killer Tomatoes for Killer Klowns From
> Outer Space.

Aw, Jean Claude, I've got that one already! I'll take a copy of "Motel
Hell" though, if you've got it.


> Egon, would you be interested in a copy of Three Stooges full
> length movie, " The Three Stooges in Orbit" (1962). The Venician women are
> out of this world for a copy of 'Killer Cheerleaders From The Reaches Beyond
> The Centre Of The Earth Against The Buck Naked Nazi Amazons Of Procyon'.
> BTW, is this movie subtitled?
>

> Det. VanDam

"Three Stooges in Orbit"? Is that better than "Snow White Meets The Three
Stooges"? I'll trade ya "The Raven", with Vincent Price, Christopher Lee,
and Peter Lorre. That's an all-time favorite around the chantry here. ;>

Mystery Tremere Theatre 2000,
Natalie

Stephanie Bradley at...@netcom.com

Mark Bradley

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In article <3546406...@news.uni2.dk>, tali...@inet.uni2.dk (Simon
Magid) wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 02:23:38 GMT, at...@netcom.com (Mark Bradley)
> wrote:
>

> >> Nah, I don't want that one, it's crap. There were almost two minutes
> >> total in it where there wasn't any violence going on at all, and I
> >> don't like movies where they waste time explaining why they fight,
> >> intellectual shit like that puts me off.
>

> >Alright. You've driven me to the point of desperation. I'll trade you a
> >copy of "Dead Alive". It's got zombies, killer rat-monkeys, decapitation,
> >removal of various limbs, an undead gastrointestinal tract with
> >personality, gore, blood, tapioca pudding, zombie sex, zombie babies, and
> >one kung-fu priest. Sure, there's a plot in there, but it shores up the
> >good stuff rather well. ;>
>
> Hey, kid, don't worry, I intended to send you a copy anyway. I
> consider it a duty to see to that kids get a proper education, which
> includes making sure they have a chance to watch edifying movies. Your
> copy is on its way.

Really? *blink blink* Thank you!
Boy, the other students are gonna have a fit when the tape gets here. I've
slowly but surely gotten them hooked on horror/gore/old sci-fi films, good,
bad, or otherwise. They are gonna love me.

Gives new meaning to the term 'embracing your inner child', doncha think?

[snip]
>
> >Natalie


>
> Egon, Nosferatu Primogen of Copenhagen

Natalie

Stephanie Bradley at...@netcom.com

Simon Magid

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On 28 Apr 1998 22:43:48 GMT, sfr...@aol.com (SFryar) wrote:

>What???? You mean to tell me that no one here would like to have a copy of
>"Plan 9 from Outer Space", "Class of Nuke-'em High" Parts 1 and 2 and "Det.
>Kabukiman, N.Y.P.D." ? I also have copies of the the three "It's Alive"
>killer-infant movies, too.
>
>>Det. VanDam
>
>Anthony
>Brujah Sheriff of Chicago
>(who has a crappy video library)

HEY! Did you call 'Plan 9' crappy? That's the best damn movie ever
made, I could watch it every night for a month without getting tired
of it!

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