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Brooks

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Jul 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/24/99
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(I know this was asked a little bit ago by someone else, but I still
don't understand)

I tried casting it out in the wilderness, where no one was around,
because I heard fighting these was a good way to raise me swords skill.
So I cast it, it chases me, I -try- to whack at it, generally get my ass
kicked. Ran for a while, until it wore out.

Thinking they were pretty tough, I grabbed some regs, and went out to
find a tough monster or two. No, not trolls, I can kill them.. No, not
ettins, I can kill them too. It'd be neat in the orc fort, but I might
obliterate some poop sap.

So I got myself into a place where I was standing on a ridge, with a
couple of Cyclopian Warriors below me. I cast blade spirits on one of
them. <puff> didn't work (hey, I'm not that good aof a mage :). Try it
again, <puff>.. After about four trys, it finally works! I can tell,
because my mana goes down, and my magery skill jumps up a .1 or so. But
nothing ever appears. Try it a few more times, a lot of <puff>ing, and a
couple of times it _appears_ to work, but nothing appears.

So I cast it behind the Cyclopeans, the evil bastards that they are, and
it just sits there. Until it gets pissed at me (it turned red, and
shadowed my movement; like any attacking monster would do). Fortunatly, I
was above it on a ridge, so it didn't get me.

Keep trying. Another one, same thing. Finally I cast fire field on the
Cyclopians, (hit my BS too, btw) and for some reason, the BS started
attacking them after that. ?! My BS got one of them, but I didn't have
enough regs to keep trying; so I just recalled back to town.

What am I doing wrong? Do I need to have higher magery before I can
target a creature with these things? Someone mentioned that they'd attack
anything that moved; but the Cyclopeans moved around, and it still didn't
attack them.

I don't understand. Any help would be appriciated!

Brooks

Jarlaxle

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Jul 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/24/99
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The trick is to cast it right next to them....get it as close to them
without actually targeting them.
This works for me all the time fighting Ophidians.

Brooks wrote in message ...

Matt (The Original)

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Jul 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/25/99
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You have to cast on the square directly next to the monster you are
attacking. It will hit it when it appears, and will keep attacking the
target. When it's done it will choose another target. It will usually go
after another player, so it's always good to not use them around people. If
you cast it ON the monster, it will make the sound, take the mana, but
nothing will appear.

Matt

Brooks

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Jul 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/25/99
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In article <7nepsf$24h$1...@ffx2nh3.news.uu.net>, mal...@angelfire.com
says...

> The trick is to cast it right next to them....get it as close to them
> without actually targeting them.
> This works for me all the time fighting Ophidians.

Next to them, right next to them... Got it. I'll try it! Thanks!

Brooks

Travis R

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Jul 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/27/99
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Blades only attack thing with semi hight intelligence. And if u target too
close they will poof and nothing happen cuz location is blocked. And if u
target too far, they wont attack. To get them to attack if they aren't, just
attck the blade then run off the screen and back. Do this back and forth
action over and over and for some reason they will atack the monster much
easier, u can do this over and over to make one BS kill many creatures

Matt (The Original)

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Jul 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/27/99
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Travis R wrote in message ...

>Blades only attack thing with semi hight intelligence.

You mean high strength. Blade spirits only attack high strength. >EVs<
will only attack high intelligence, which is why a couple novice PKs have
killed themselves by casting EV on my warrior. :) They cast it right beside
me, and I play dumb while they cast it, then laugh and get in their way and
slow them up as it heads straight for them. :)

To get them to attack if they aren't, just
>attck the blade then run off the screen and back. Do this back and forth
>action over and over and for some reason they will atack the monster much
>easier, u can do this over and over to make one BS kill many creatures


Now this I didn't know! That's some damned useful info. I suspect you
could do the same by attacking and then casting invisibility on yourself. I
do that with a daemon pal, and a large group of monsters. All the monsters
gang bang the daemon, who chops through them all, and leaves their bodies
littering the place. :) Just see that the daemon stays alive, by casting
protection on them, and the occasional heal, and they will take down droves
of enemies. Just don't expect a daemon to hold his own against an ogre lord
or elder wyrm... :)

Kim Rivers

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Jul 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/30/99
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My experience with blade spirits is thus:

They never want to attack what I want them to. (well, okay, they HAVE, but
not lately! It's all in placement, I suspect, placement and that STR thingie)

Don't try to target the monster, it will poof.

If they don't target the monster, they will inevitably target a friend. :)

Okay, that said, almost everything I know about blade spirits I have learned
by hunting silver serpents. Here's an anedote for you:

I was a-huntin' silver serpents. For those who get huffy about people
trapping
monsters and then BSing them to death (with or without blade spirits, but
the talking takes longer - har! :) I *did* try to melee one once.

Got the little critter down to 1/3 Hps and then it bit me. No, really bit me.
Suddenly I am dying of poison. Cure/Greater Heal/cure!

Alas, not only are the snakes speedy, but their poison is speedier.

I Was Dead.

If anyone has tactical tips on how to cure that UltraNasty poison that they
and some of those Ophidian types do, feel free to share.

Will Greater Cure potions do the trick? I heard that if your HPs are too low
nothing you can do will abort the poison; of course your HPs drop like Bill
Clinton's pants once you've been SuperduperPoisoned.

Anyway: So now I afford the snakes the Run Away Screaming that they deserve.

When I see them, I put a hill between me and them. It's a lot easier if I'm
on the hill and they aren't, but I'll take it any way I can get it (however,
I don't take American Express. Apologies to those who don't see VISA
commericals on TV).

Then I BS them.

Of course yesterday I ran smack into a little stumpy swamp tree, it bit me and
yes,

I Was Dead. So was my horse.

Poor horsie.

I was a bit worried that by the time I ran back to town and back, my little
bones would have disappeared and while I generally carry nothing I'd really
be unhappy to lose, one wishes to preserve what they
could. It wasn't the dying that bugged me (well, that fame loss didn't feel
good...) it was the Stuff.

Didja Ever Notice: When you are standing over a body, waiting for it to go to
bones so you can take stuff without going grey (note: this is not necesarily
looting; you may be wanting to hold it for a friend while he's dashing off
to be rezzed, but NOT wanting to take the flag because any Tom, Dick and Harry
notoPk might dash up), it takes FOREVER for it to turn to bones. We're talking
glacial. Ping times to Siege Perilous are faster and that's saying something.

However, if YOU die and YOUR the one dashing to a healer and back, the time it
takes for your body to not only turn to bones, but to turn to bones and then
disappear totally, stuff and all, is about 1.5 milliseconds.

At any rate, I squeaked into my ICQ and lo, My Hero did consent to come rez me
nearer the swamp and help fend off the Giant Toads, giant Snakes, little
Snakes, alligators and of course, that Silver Serpent while I grabbed my stuff
back.

Of course he asked for precise directions to where I was, and while I had taken
a moment to look at the radar and get a reasonable approximation of where "I"
was, it's a swamp for crying out loud. "Turn left at the little pear shaped
hummock" wouldn't do.

I told him to meet me at the bridge leading to the swamp and give him as
precise
instructions to THERE as I could.

Then I promptly got lost on the way to the bridge (oops, too far south.... hey,
another silver... have eto remember spot... oops, too far West..), but
suffice to say I got there and was rezzed and healed.

We dashed back.

My bones were slooooowly sinking into the swamp. I approached with caution
knowing that Mr "My Poison is More Deadly than YOUR Poison" was slinking about.
Thanks to UOA, I could see the lable "a silver serpent" juuuuuust off the
screen
to the southwest; fortunately for me, I had chosen to come in from the north.

I warned my friend and edged to my bones. My friend went south and promptly
ran back off the screen with the silver in hot pursuit. I had remarked to him
yesterday that silvers moved FAST for a monster; he had pooh poohed me. I saw
a bit of blood from behind his horse; I hoped the poison hadn't kicked in.

I grabbed my stuff thinking that once I get my regs, at least I can try to BS
the silver while it stood over my friend's lifeless body :)

A giant toad eyed me from across the swamp and decided to hop on over to try
to eat me.

First lesson in Stuff Recovery: always grab a weapon first. I did and while
I was pretty much standing there in chain mail pants and nothing else I beat
on it while I grabbed the rest of my things.

I'm happy to stay that even only in pants, my skills are such that giant toads
are Not An Issue. My friend showed up again, alive, as I finished off the toad
and finished recovering my stuff. Hah!

"Silver Serpents are FAST!" he announces. As if this were news. :)

I remind him that I had told him that yesterday and that he hadn't believed me.
He danced around that fact by saying that well, in the past, he'd always
run *first* upon seeing them.

Well, sure, it's easy to outrun something that isn't chasing you, I think, but
choose not to pursue this. :) He had, after all, come all this way to save
my bones.

The silver is trapped, he says, and he announces he'll just go over and kill
it.

No no no! I run after him.

Yes, he says.

The serpent meanwhile, is glaring at me from atop a little hummock in the
swamp.
Hiss, it says. Hiss.

No no no! The little twerp had killed me and taken my fame, I wanted it back
by golly. And silvers give me "a lot of fame".

My enthusiasm won out, and indeed, I delivered a mighty (well, two fizzles
later)
blade spirit which, of course, didn't target the monster.

I solved that problem by running back and forth to "lure" the blade spirit
"over"
the serpent. I don't have to go off screen like the other guy suggested, but
it
does seem that after a few times, of kinda keeping the BS and the eventual
target together, heated words are exchanged and things turn to blows between
them. Then it's stand back, pop a little spell at the BS to make sure it
gets miffed at me when it's done "just in case" and wait.

Of course my tank mage/mage-warrior/not sure what he's doing with his char
buddy has to get his two cents in and he does some flame strike. Then is a
little let down when he discovered that not only are silver's quick and deadly
but they seem to have a really high resist. :)

At any rate, the silver was dispatched, I was hale and hearty and fully
equipped
once more and my friend got an urgent ICQ and had to leave. Seems the
nightmare
we'd been following around in Britain was about to go untame. But that's
another story...

(I'd hate to have been that owner. Although I hope it's the guy who scammed
me... :)


kim

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DSMITH3

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Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
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My favorite is a not to bright Pk who, while chasing me, decided to cast
blade sprits on my character, a master bard........hehe.....I waited.
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JNTF

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Aug 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/4/99
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This here be a very fine tale, it do. Me thinks it might even be true.

Jerry of Woodcliff, Pacific

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>
> My experience with blade spirits is thus:

...Snip...

Kim Rivers

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Aug 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/8/99
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Jerry said:

//This here be a very fine tale, it do. Me thinks it might even be true.

//Jerry of Woodcliff, Pacific

Well thank you! Too bad I can't remember what I wrote. :)

Bryan Wright

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Aug 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/27/99
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The blade spirit will attack moving targets only so youve got to get the
monsters to move after you cast it! try the fire field after it works great.
good luck

Brooks wrote:

DSMITH3

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Aug 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/28/99
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Sorry to correct you, but the target does not have to be moving. I use
Blades for Cyclops exclusively. You have to target just to the side of one
of the feet, usually the furthest one you can see, so that when it is cast
it will start next to but not on the foot. The center of the target cursor
is just off of the foot and the blade needs that one open square to work.
It will "poof" if no room is available, and just sit there if too far away.
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Sean Eaton

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Aug 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/30/99
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Get a life

Korth

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Aug 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/31/99
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Why keep replying messages with "Get a life" (I've seen many of those from
you already)? Mental...?...

Cheers,
Korth

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Uwe Fischer

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The fourth post from you that I have to read from you today, showing a
little bit of assholism:( Now I stop to count.

Regards
Grizwood, Temple Knight (MTB), Drachenfels


Sean Eaton schrieb in Nachricht <37CAFF70...@home.com>...


>Get a life
>
>Bryan Wright wrote:
>>
>> The blade spirit will attack moving targets only so youve got to get the
>> monsters to move after you cast it! try the fire field after it works
great.
>> good luck

*snip*

J.R.Parker

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Aug 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/31/99
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Here is the scoop about blades. when you cast them you need to make sure
that thereis no way they can get to you because if they miss there target
they will go for the first human target available. ackkkk. Yes they will
turn you grey if they go for someone else. Now if you have a target you
want to cast as close as you can to the target. If you get a white puff on
screen and you lose mana then you were to close to target. If you cast
again and blade just sits there untill it comes after you or some other
human then you were to far away from your target. Blades are very hard
sometimes toget to attack what you want. Its trial and error with them.
Make sure you can dispel the blade if you call it. This will keepit from
killing you or a friend.
Some times if you hide your self after you cast blade and it just sits
there it may attack the monster.
My advise is if blade does not attack then dispel it and wait for mana and
cast again. :) I have been playing since the first week so you have any
more questions just ask. :)

Bryan Wright <bryan....@netscape.com> wrote in message
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> The blade spirit will attack moving targets only so youve got to get the
> monsters to move after you cast it! try the fire field after it works
great.
> good luck
>

J.R.Parker

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Aug 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/31/99
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no kidding.
Korth <kort...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Why keep replying messages with "Get a life" (I've seen many of those from
> you already)? Mental...?...
>
> Cheers,
> Korth
>
> Sean Eaton <xe...@home.com> wrote in message
> news:37CAFF70...@home.com...
> > Get a life
> >
> > Bryan Wright wrote:
> > >

Bobby Killsmith

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Sep 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/1/99
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They go after the bearest blue, as far as I know. If there's no one else
around , that's you. If you happen to be able to target a spot close enough
to a monster; that is, the monster is within the limits of its whirring
blades, they will do combat. If you miss, it comes after you. If it's a
spot where there's not enough room, I think that's where you get the 'poof'
& you're down the mana and nothing happens.

....far as I
can tell anyway... BK

Drake

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Sep 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/1/99
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Good rule I live by with blades as a mage is this: don't use blades in
public areas (read dungeons) until you can cast dispel in the 6th circle
with little problem.

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| Here is the scoop about blades. when you cast them you need to make sure
| that thereis no way they can get to you because if they miss there target
| they will go for the first human target available. ackkkk. Yes they will
| turn you grey if they go for someone else. Now if you have a target you
| want to cast as close as you can to the target. If you get a white puff
on
| screen and you lose mana then you were to close to target. If you cast
| again and blade just sits there untill it comes after you or some other
| human then you were to far away from your target. Blades are very hard
| sometimes toget to attack what you want. Its trial and error with them.
| Make sure you can dispel the blade if you call it. This will keepit from
| killing you or a friend.
| Some times if you hide your self after you cast blade and it just sits
| there it may attack the monster.
| My advise is if blade does not attack then dispel it and wait for mana
and
| cast again. :) I have been playing since the first week so you have
any
| more questions just ask. :)
| Bryan Wright <bryan....@netscape.com> wrote in message
| news:37C6C324...@netscape.com...

Adam Burr

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Sep 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/1/99
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In article <7qjprv$s0f$1...@news.cet.com>, Drake <dr...@nospam.org> wrote:
>Good rule I live by with blades as a mage is this: don't use blades in
>public areas (read dungeons) until you can cast dispel in the 6th circle
>with little problem.
>
And even then, you should usually think twice before casting it. :>

Madman Across the Water

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The MAG

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Same for Energy Vortex :)

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