The real deal on PKing
Compaq User
a PK and have only killed 1 person EVER in my enitre history of the game.
(He deserved it) Lets take a look at the Victims side
You are strolling down the road to Britian, when suddenly a guy pops out
from being hidden. He Paralzes you and tosses some E bolts your way. You
die. He Says "U SUCK" and steals all your hard earned stuff. You run off
to be Rezed
Secenario 2, the Role playing PK
You walk down the road to Britian and a man tells you to stop. He askes for
all your gold and armor. You recall and he is left with nothing
See how dumb it is? I can see why PKs jump people. It's just like Nature.
Survivial of the fittest. I don't see any of you bitching about the "god
damn wolves who surprise and kill defencles deer, it isn't fair for the
deer." i can't belive how 1 sided people are, only thinking about
themselves. If you play a game that you can die in, You will die sooner or
later, and if you don't like it, go play chess
Eric A. Hall
> Secenario 2, the Role playing PK
> You walk down the road to Britian and a man tells you to stop. He
> askes for all your gold and armor. You recall and he is left with
> nothing
He could paralyze and demand "your money or your life." It's possible to
role play a highwayman without ganking every newbie you see.
Nick Pietrzak II
Tried to create a toll bridge with friends on at least 3 occasions. The
damn fools would cuss us while sitting there frozen, get para'd 2 or 3
times, until finally had to kill them or let them go. Further, the mages
would simply recall away. The loot was a quarter of what you could make
killing stupid monsters, and we put up with more out of character cussing
and general abuse than I've ever received at the hands of a PK.
The only successful PK's get together in LARGE groups, and storm one spawn
site after another, living by the rules of NEVER returning to the same site
that night, and never staying more than a few minutes. One offered to let
one of my guildies join, but warned "PKing is NOT PvP" meaning that
honorable fighting is NOT possible for reds given the current game
mechanics, and certainly not profitable.
Blame the anti-pk whiners for the current state of PKing. They asked for
it. We warned against it. Now you have to live with it.
-nick
(BTW, not a PK, just well educated on the subject)
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Jas
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> I think PKing is a two sided issue. You have to look at both POVs I am
not
> a PK and have only killed 1 person EVER in my enitre history of the game.
> (He deserved it) Lets take a look at the Victims side
>
> You are strolling down the road to Britian, when suddenly a guy pops out
> from being hidden. He Paralzes you and tosses some E bolts your way. You
> die. He Says "U SUCK" and steals all your hard earned stuff. You run off
> to be Rezed
>
> Secenario 2, the Role playing PK
> You walk down the road to Britian and a man tells you to stop. He askes
for
> all your gold and armor. You recall and he is left with nothing
>
Eric A. Hall
> The loot was a quarter of what you could make killing stupid monsters
> Blame the anti-pk whiners for the current state of PKing.
LOL, No, I'll blame you and your greed. You wanted more is all.
BigDaddy
specify what those initials meant so I am guessing here, tell me if im
wrong), So, wheres the other point of view you promised, as what I read are
the victims POV in 2 scenarios but miss the other POV!? Is it the POV of the
poor pker, left stranded in the middle of nowhere, with no loot from a dead
player who plays the game to get it, only to lose it to someone who doesnt
play the game, but kills those who do?
And since Im here, lets have another example of the victims side. Your
strolling down the road, minding your own business, killing defenseless deer
for the hides to make fine GM leather armor so youll look attractive to the
damn pkers, and 5, not ever 1 since I been playing, and Ive been on since
October 97, jump out, para, ebolt, para, ebolt, para, flamestrike, ebolt,
death! NOW THATS ROLEPLAYING RIGHT THERE BABY! Survival of the fittest, for
if you cant kill 5 pkers who jump your lonesome soul, you need to be
murdered! And if it is killing of poor defenseless deer, why isnt the deer
killer red, and labeled a murderer! Thats an easy answer, pkers who kill are
murdering scum, to be executed, made extinct even, and that seems to be
awful close to OSI's plan to segregate em!
I see why pkers jump people too, they are jackasses! Its easy to fix tho,
and no one seems to say it so I will. Make it so only and I do mean only red
and blue exist, no grey! Upon character creation, one must choose a path, as
all do who have ever played any single Ultima, except for online version.
Red or Blue, right there, decision made! Reds can only kill reds, no blue
killing! Blue cannot kill blue or red, a life of, and Ive heard this before
so I will quote, "boring monster AI-less killing, attack it, back up, heal,
do it again till its dead, babyland loving, chess playing, non-pking,
where's the fun in that at" day in UO!
Oh and your " i can't belive how 1 sided people are, only thinking about
themselves " comment is, well, one sided! You said and I quote again, " If
you play a game that you can die in, You will die sooner or
would say, if you dont like it, why not petition OSi to make available a
pk-less environment to play on, or wait until they segregate the non-pkers
from the scum, and let the scum kill themselves only as thats all they will
have access to! Your one sided argument is like it or "play chess"? Gonna
get flamed for that comment, and let me be the first, "Kiss my ass" !
Money is the root of all evil....and I just love roots!
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richar...@hotmail.com
play Ultima Online yet. I am concerned that, as a newbie in the game,
I will have a snowball's chance in hell of building up a character and
gathering equipment, because I will be PKed all the time. The fact
that UO has the reputation of being a land of PKers which says "screw
you" to new players.
Sure, I can go play chess. Maybe I will stick to check, or Everquest,
or whatever. Excessive unchecking PKing is going to drive people away
from the game.
UO is supposed to be a game. It is supposed to be fun. A lack of fun
will drive someone away.
Is it worth it, if you drive a bunch of people away from the game?
- Richard Hutnik
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Beneviste
Europa and have wandered all over the old and new lands. I have seen a few
PKs and even been killed twice, once by a red PK, once by a blue. The blue
was pretty honourable. Inidvidual shard experience may differ but on Europa
it doesn't seem to me to be a massive problem. However I have avoided
dungeons so far so maybe thats where they all are.
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Fleo
gettin myself into, having read alot of info before hand on the actual game
and all there is in it , and I must say that if PK'ers were'nt in this game
it would be a very boring game indeed.
To make a game like this without them would be a shame, it's what
roleplaying is all about.
I myself don't intend to become a PKer as it's not my style of playing (not
yet anyway) :) , but the beauty of the game is you can be what YOU want to
be and not what someone else says you have or ought to be.
Without PKers there would'nt be much of a thrill going through the
wilderness or into the dungeon's (not that I've been into any yet).
Fair enough PKers can be a pain but then again so can real life :).
I just lurve this game.
L. Atkinson. (Ermest) on atlantic.
BigDaddy <Black...@email.msn.com> wrote in message
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If
> you play a game that you can die in, You will die sooner or
> later, and if you don't like it, go play chess " ! Now a two sided
argument
> would say, if you dont like it, why not petition OSi to make available a
> pk-less environment to play on, or wait until they segregate the non-pkers
> from the scum, and let the scum kill themselves only as thats all they
will
> have access to! Your one sided argument is like it or "play chess"? Gonna
> get flamed for that comment, and let me be the first, "Kiss my ass" !
>
> Money is the root of all evil....and I just love roots!
> http://homepages.msn.com/TwitchTr/black_bartt/
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Draven
remotely familiar?
Started this game as newbie as one gets :)
Played for at least 3 months before i ever met my first Dreadlord (ya thats
what they where called back then, don't see manny theese days). In my very
naive newbie way i walked up to him (he was a X-bow pk, from the time when
there was quite a punch in those *sighs in the world of nostalgia*) well i
asked him why he was red, and instead of whacking this stupid little newbie
to take a bit of hides and leather gorgets from my corpse, he patiently
explained it to me (also gave me a few hints on how to improve skills etc.)
2 of his friends (also red's came up to him and we all started talking, they
where all quite mature players, and after checking if i had annything worthy
of a kill, they did not bother me at all (needless to say i had nothing of
interest).
Hours passed as i learned more and more of this great and new game called
"UO", all where they willing to share a bit of experience and a few hints
and tips (no.no sorry if you think this sounds like abusers, i must
dissapoint you, no "bugs") Well thing is after having talked about this and
that they started talking about the whole PK/PVP/evil roleplay idea, and
strangely they all saw some tough times comming, but not for them, for the
average Britannian. What they told me some two years or more ago would
happend to the Sosarian comunity became all to true, things like exploiters,
grey-killers, fame whores, karma killers and a general change in attitude
and powerplaying. I guess you can argue a lot about who actually bears the
responsibility of a great game going a bit "chaotic", but it wasent long
before the woods became impossible (and i DO mean impossible) to pass,
without getting whacked py PK's, well i didnt mind much at first, must admit
i'm quite a bad looser so in the end it annoyed me quite a bit. There had
been a real change in attitude (i'm still talking about the fairly early
days of the game), suddenly it was all about power, loot and money, mostly
power i guess. There where no consequences worth mentioning for being a pk,
and the prey was plenty (remember a lot of people had just started playing
back then). In time it changed, guess some lost interest and others where
afraid of the newly implememted stat loss thingy, but in the meantime a
whole new breed af sosarians had spawned...they karma killers, i quickly
decided that i missed my good old dreadlord's chasing me, instead of a blue
asshole who walked into a dungeon, gained enough karma, walked out and
killed poor little old me! Heh at least the old Dreadlord where easy to
recognise, and didnt pretend to be someone they where not!
A lot of time has passed now and there are still arguments for and against
pk'ing in this game (as clearly stated on this board)
I must say, the world would be boring without pk's and/or evil rpg's BUT i
could honestly be without the people who grey-kills you because your EV
mistargeted (especially when they bear a good title :) ) So come on all
Sosarians get togheter good AND evil, roleplay this game as it was intended,
live and die in this little virtual world and most important of all...have a
good time
Remember it's "only" a game, if my English where a bit better i would use a
very good prhase, on Danish however the word is "Eskapisme" (a bit of fun
escape from reality)
ANNYONE STILL AWAKE?????
*shees what a bunch of rubbish i just wrote :)*
Draven
[CUFQ3] LEGION
:)
rock'on ultima
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McCannon
kinds regards
Baron Mccannon{AMW} .
(Denmark)
Ronald
But to the beginners it is not fair. I have loads of money and stuff.
If i get killed it is interesting and makes me plot new tactics.
But when i was trying to move up in the world it has demotivated me
more than once.
If you get sick of being pked (you are probably someone who wanders
the world soletary) You must join a guild.
That way you have fun when a pk tries to move in,.
A tip for all newbies :
Put you stuff in the bank, travel light, travel fast
Put you stuff in the bank, travel light, travel fast
Put you stuff in the bank, travel light, travel fast
Put you stuff in the bank, travel light, travel fast
Put you stuff in the bank, travel light, travel fast
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Put you stuff in the bank, travel light, travel fast
Count Hope GM Hygloth Cloggies (Europe)
On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:34:41 -0600, "BigDaddy"
<Black...@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Hey, ummm, bub! You mentioned two POV's (points of view? as you didnt
>specify what those initials meant so I am guessing here, tell me if im
>wrong), So, wheres the other point of view you promised, as what I read are
>the victims POV in 2 scenarios but miss the other POV!? Is it the POV of the
>poor pker, left stranded in the middle of nowhere, with no loot from a dead
etc . . . . etc . . . .
Legion
-=Legion=-
Fleo <l.e.at...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> I've just started playing OU , only 3 days so far and I knew what I was
> gettin myself into, having read alot of info before hand on the actual
game
> and all there is in it , and I must say that if PK'ers were'nt in this
game
> it would be a very boring game indeed.
> To make a game like this without them would be a shame, it's what
> roleplaying is all about.
> I myself don't intend to become a PKer as it's not my style of playing
(not
> yet anyway) :) , but the beauty of the game is you can be what YOU want to
> be and not what someone else says you have or ought to be.
> Without PKers there would'nt be much of a thrill going through the
> wilderness or into the dungeon's (not that I've been into any yet).
>
> Fair enough PKers can be a pain but then again so can real life :).
> I just lurve this game.
>
> L. Atkinson. (Ermest) on atlantic.
>
> BigDaddy <Black...@email.msn.com> wrote in message
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> > Hey, ummm, bub! You mentioned two POV's (points of view? as you didnt
> > specify what those initials meant so I am guessing here, tell me if im
> > wrong), So, wheres the other point of view you promised, as what I read
> are
> > the victims POV in 2 scenarios but miss the other POV!? Is it the POV of
> the
> > poor pker, left stranded in the middle of nowhere, with no loot from a
> dead
Dynamo Dave
are more honorable than the BLUE PKs.....those guys are the real menace. At
least if u see Red u have a chance of recalling, and if u dont then either
prepare to die,,,,or run,,,,,or make a stand (not recommended).
I can remember breathing hard at the terminal after running from a red and
escaping. Of course that was not the case in the newbie days, I just died.
And it was frustrating, no it was beyond frustrating,,,,,,,my sole purpose
was to someday KILL all of them. I have learned however that several are
great roleplayers and are very honorable. (No i am not a red). I recently
meet a fella who attempted to kill me quickly, failed in his attempt, as
there wasnt the usual 3 or 4 of them attacking me. Decided that he would
say, "your armor or your life." As i was wearing crap armor, i decided to
give the armor and parlay with the guy.
I was amazed at how honorable the guy was.......... Unfortunately not all
Reds or Blue's are for that matter. Dont judge a book by its
cover........But i still dont stay around and chat when i see a group of
reds....(hehe)
David
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