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AirRaid

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May 22, 2007, 5:29:17 PM5/22/07
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Phantasy Star IV: The Return of Alis

Perhaps one of the least-known titles in the Phantasy Star franchise -
Phantasy Star IV never saw a commercial release. Developed within
Sonic Team shortly after the release of Phantasy Star III - Phantasy
Star IV was to be the magnum opus of the Phantasy Star series for it's
time. A game so large, that the only medium which could justifiably
hold it was the Sega CD (though a stripped down Genesis version was
also planned). It originally weighed in at over 240MB, much of which
was fully digitalized music and FMV cutscenes. Though it also sported
game maps 20 times the size of previous games and highly detailed 3D
dungeon sequences similar to the first game.

Unfortunately, due to sagging sales of the Sega CD and numerous delays
in the project - Phantasy Star IV was eventually scrapped and
production resources were transfered to Phantasy Star: End of the
Millenium.

Had Phantasy Star IV been allowed to finish development, it would have
followed the events of Phantasy Star III and the continuing struggle
against Dark Force. It's a fairly safe bet that at some point, Alis
Landale would have made a return as well. Though part of the game
still lives on through Phantasy Star: End of the Millenium. For
example, the anime cutscenes which some consider to be the birth cries
of modern FMV cutscenes, were inspired by the actual FMV cutscenes of
it's unreleased companion.

http://www.phantasystarwiki.com/index.php?title=Phantasy_Star_IV:_The_Return_of_Alis


GamePro July 1992 article
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/6806/mdcdpsivcs2.jpg


SegaBase:
http://www.eidolons-inn.net/tiki-index.php?page=SegaBase+Sega+CD

In terms of software, the biggest news by far was with the Phantasy
Star RPG series - the closest thing Sega had to Square's Final Fantasy
franchise - with two Mega CD titles announced as being in development.
The more notable of the two was the all-new title The Return of Alis,
which was to take place immediately after the events depicted in
Phantasy Star 3 and tell the story of the fight against a revival of
the intergalactic slave trade. This new installment in the saga would
be 20 times the size of the earlier game and would incorporate both
audio and anime clips.


Sega cancelled the planned Sega CD release of Phantasy Star 4, opting
instead for a cartridge-based Genesis game that bore little
resemblance to its original Sega CD concept.

_____________________________________________________________________

What a game that incarnation of PSIV would've been--on MegaCD/Sega CD,
even a cut-down cartridge version on Genesis.

No doubt later, the full CD version would've appeared in collections
for Saturn, Dreamcast, Playstation2, Xbox, IBM PC, etc.

Dispite the vague decription of the story, I think it would've been a
much better Phantasy Star than End of the Millenium.

BelPowerslave

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May 22, 2007, 5:50:46 PM5/22/07
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AirRaid wrote:

God, what a sad little life you lead. Do you actually go out and just
research stuff to spam groups with, do you really have that much time on
your hands?

Bel
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Air Raid

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May 22, 2007, 9:43:47 PM5/22/07
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On May 22, 4:50 pm, BelPowerslave <b...@whipassgaming.com> wrote:

> God

<snipped silly troll post>

you think that was spam? wow what a dunce.

learn what spam actually is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam

"Spamming is the abuse of electronic messaging systems to send
unsolicited bulk messages, which are generally undesired. While the
most widely recognized form of spam is email spam, the term is applied
to similar abuses in other media: instant messaging spam, Usenet
newsgroup spam, Web search engine spam, spam in blogs, mobile phone
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is also called junk mail. Some email clients or servers have spam
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http://spam.abuse.net/overview/whatisspam.shtml

"What is spam?

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Spam costs the sender very little to send -- most of the costs are
paid for by the recipient or the carriers rather than by the sender.

There are two main types of spam, and they have different effects on
Internet users. Cancellable Usenet spam is a single message sent to 20
or more Usenet newsgroups. (Through long experience, Usenet users have
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spam is generally advertizing or massive posting of the same exact
thing over & over, making a newsgroup or message board unreadable,
with excessive flooding. etc. which I don't do.

BelPowerslave, you silly, bitchy, unappreciative fucktard.

Jack (www.villagebbs.com)

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May 22, 2007, 11:20:10 PM5/22/07
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Interesting, I didn't know a CD version of PS was ever in development.

I guess it will remain lost forever. Do we know how much (if any)
actual work was done on it? I guess at least some cutscenes if they
'inspired' others.

Interesting.

= numsix
= http://www.villagebbs.com


Alexander Triebull

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May 28, 2007, 8:30:06 AM5/28/07
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The only PS project on a CD/DVD I knew was the PS2 port. It was a completly
redone game.

"Jack (www.villagebbs.com)" <lup...@villagebbs.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1179890410....@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

AirRaid

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May 29, 2007, 2:36:40 PM5/29/07
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On May 22, 10:20 pm, "Jack (www.villagebbs.com)"


I don't know of any confirmed actual work done for the CD or cartridge
version of
PSIV: The Return of Alis. nothing of it has been seen in magazines or
the internet as far as I'm aware.

There is however, some -definite- early work done for PSIV: End of The
Millenium
(which I remind everyone is a different game) that was cut out of the
released version. There's the first-person PSI-like dungeons, cinema
scenes recapping the previous 3 games & introducing the new cast, and
Darkforce.

http://www.phantasy-star.net/art/compendium/3dps4.jpg
http://www.efkm.com/dezoris/ps_mem1.jpg
http://www.efkm.com/dezoris/ps_mem2.jpg
http://www.efkm.com/dezoris/ps_mem3.jpg
http://www.phantasy-star.net/art/segaart/ps4quad.gif
http://www.imagepup.com/up/MiAz_1180463537_darkforce.jpg

If you have EGM August 1992, you can see 1 or 2 more of the unused
cinema screens.


AirRaid Mach 2.5

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May 30, 2007, 12:36:16 AM5/30/07
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> If you have EGM August 1992, you can see 1 or 2 more of the unused
> cinema screens.

I found the above mentioned article thanks to archive.org -- I saved
the image, uploaded it to a hosting site.

http://www.imagepup.com/up/AYZt_1180499258_PSIVpreview.jpg

Note the cinema of Chaz kneeling, overlaid on a view of Motavia and
the Palman asteriod belt.

Still, nothing at all on the totally scrapped PSIV: The Return of
Alis.

AirRaid Mach 2.5

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May 30, 2007, 12:46:48 AM5/30/07
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yeah totally unrelated.

what you're talking about are the Sega 3D Ages low-budget remakes of
the first two games.

Phantasy Star: Generation 1 (2003)
Phantasy Star: Generation 2 (2005)

A remake of Phantasy Star 4 was planned, but nothing has been seen.
Maybe sometime this year in Japan? ....since the others were 2 years
apart.

The three remakes were supposed to ship on one collection in the
U.S.;
Phantasy Star Trilogy. This can't happen until the 3rd remake, PSIV,
is completed & released in Japan--something that's up in the air and
probably won't happen now that we're fully into a another generation
of consoles.

I'd like a high-budget remake of the first game on Xbox 360, PS3 with
high production values, expanded story & quest. something that blows
people away as the original PS did in 1987/1988.

On May 28, 7:30 am, "Alexander Triebull" <dotnewz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The only PS project on a CD/DVD I knew was the PS2 port. It was a completly
> redone game.
>

> "Jack (www.villagebbs.com)" <lup...@villagebbs.com> schrieb im Newsbeitragnews:1179890410....@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

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