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Larry W. Virden

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Oct 13, 2009, 3:18:24 AM10/13/09
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So, I'm replaying Pokemon FireRed and have beaten the Elite 4. I want
to capture the legendary dog Raicune. I have a pokemon with sweet
scent, which is at a Lv 30+. I go to a grassy area, use a max repel to
keep away all the pokemon in that area under lv 30, then use sweet
scent . Instead of seeing the legendary dog, I see lv 3 and 4 pokemon.

Is there something besides beating the elite 4 that needs to happen
before the game starts the legendary dogs?

Chet Weaver

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Oct 13, 2009, 5:34:25 PM10/13/09
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All I can tell you is that they won't appear just anywhere. Which route
they're on when you boot up the game or fly to another area is determined
randomly, and they'll move to an adjacent route if you move to another area.
However, after seeing one once you'll be able to track its location on the
map.

-- Chet Weaver

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Larry W. Virden

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Oct 14, 2009, 7:48:46 AM10/14/09
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On Oct 13, 5:34 pm, "Chet Weaver" <zeroo...@aim.com> wrote:
>
> All I can tell you is that they won't appear just anywhere.  Which route
> they're on when you boot up the game or fly to another area is determined
> randomly, and they'll move to an adjacent route if you move to another area.
> However, after seeing one once you'll be able to track its location on the
> map.
>

Thanks. I've captured one of the three, then I restarted the game to
catch the next one. The first one I just stumbled over and I was
hoping someone had figured out a reliable way to "flush them out". I'd
read one of those web sites with pokemon questions and answers and had
tried their suggestion (sweet scent, max repel, lead pokemon at a
level higher than the pokemon found in the area). But of course you
are right - if I'm not in the area when it is, then it isn't going to
just show up. And sweet scent overrides max repel. Sigh.

I guess I'm stuck just working on things.

Anyone have a favorite FireRed reference file covering a) what items
wild pokemon are holding, b) what items trainer pokemon are holding,
and c) how much money is earned by defeating specific trainers?

If I have to wander the fields of the game, I can at least go around
collecting useful items....

Chet Weaver

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Oct 14, 2009, 7:05:42 PM10/14/09
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I generally go to Serebii.net.

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Larry W. Virden

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Nov 13, 2009, 11:03:33 AM11/13/09
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I am SO frustrated. I've been playing FireRed for nearly 3 months now.
Of course, that's not all day, every day. But I've logged nearly 200
hours on the game.
I still have not seen the legendary dog (I started with Squirtle) .
I've also not seen a shiney.

Sigh. This part is really frustrating for me. Once I see the dog, I
will catch it, migrate it over to my Pokemon Diamond game, and start
over for the last dog.
Grrrr...

I've tried a variety of things - beat the elite four a second time,
made certain I'd caught all the legendary birds, captured Mewtwo (on
my first Ultra ball toss!).
I keep thinking that surely there's something besides the national
pokedex that triggers the dog roaming the countryside or at least
triggers me SEEING the dog roaming the countryside.

Sigh.

Chet Weaver

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Nov 13, 2009, 4:53:10 PM11/13/09
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"Larry W. Virden" <lvi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I am SO frustrated. I've been playing FireRed for nearly 3 months now.
> Of course, that's not all day, every day. But I've logged nearly 200
> hours on the game.
> I still have not seen the legendary dog (I started with Squirtle) .
> I've also not seen a shiney.
>
You'll just have to keep at it. I've been playing since Pokemon Blue, and
I've never saw a wild Shiney aside from the Red Gyarados in Silver (which
doesn't count as it's not a random battle) until Pokemon Diamond.

> Sigh. This part is really frustrating for me. Once I see the dog, I
> will catch it, migrate it over to my Pokemon Diamond game, and start
> over for the last dog.
> Grrrr...
>
> I've tried a variety of things - beat the elite four a second time,
> made certain I'd caught all the legendary birds, captured Mewtwo (on
> my first Ultra ball toss!).
> I keep thinking that surely there's something besides the national
> pokedex that triggers the dog roaming the countryside or at least
> triggers me SEEING the dog roaming the countryside.
>
> Sigh.

Wish I could help you, but I don't know anything about FireRed or LeafGreen
that didn't occur in the original Red and Blue. Have you tried
GameFAQs.com?

-- Chet Weaver

"What's the fun of being cool if you can't wear a sombrero?"
- Hobbes, Calvin & Hobbes

Diamond Trainer Name: Minnie
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Current Goal: Complete National PokeDex
Event Pokemon Collected: "Lucario" Mew, "Rise of" Darkrai, Gamestp Deoxyx,

TRU Dragonite, "Sky Warrior" Shaymin, TRU Arceus


Larry W. Virden

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Nov 14, 2009, 6:21:56 AM11/14/09
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On Nov 13, 4:53 pm, "Chet Weaver" <zeroo...@aim.com> wrote:

>
> Wish I could help you, but I don't know anything about FireRed or LeafGreen
> that didn't occur in the original Red and Blue. Have you tried
> GameFAQs.com?

the tips that i've found there and elsewhere so far have not paid off
in a siting. So, I just keep trying things. Thanks for listening
though.

Chet Weaver

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Nov 18, 2009, 3:59:47 PM11/18/09
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"Larry W. Virden" <lvi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I found this by accident on Bulbapedia:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Roaming_Pok%C3%A9mon
Scroll down to Generation III Pokemon. In reference to the three Legendary
Beasts, it says, "These Pok�mon are only present in Pok�mon FireRed and
LeafGreen. The only one that will appear will be the one whose type weakens
the type of the player's chosen starter Pok�mon." So it looks like the only
one you can capture in your game is the one you already caught. If you want
the other two, you're going to have to find someone to trade with. Sorry.

-- Chet Weaver

"What's the fun of being cool if you can't wear a sombrero?"
- Hobbes, Calvin & Hobbes

Diamond Trainer Name: Minnie
Friend Code: 0988 8637 4610
Progress: Sinnoh League Champion (Feb. 15, 2009, 302:7 Hours)
Location: Survival Area

Time: 321 Hours since April 22, 2007
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Score: 20903
Current Goal: Complete National PokeDex, arrange a team to transfer to
HeartGold

Larry W. Virden

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Nov 19, 2009, 8:43:04 AM11/19/09
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On Nov 18, 3:59 pm, "Chet Weaver" <zeroo...@aim.com> wrote:
> I found this by accident on Bulbapedia:http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Roaming_Pok%C3%A9mon
> Scroll down to Generation III Pokemon.  In reference to the three Legendary
> Beasts, it says, "These Pokémon are only present in Pokémon FireRed and

> LeafGreen. The only one that will appear will be the one whose type weakens
> the type of the player's chosen starter Pokémon."  So it looks like the only

> one you can capture in your game is the one you already caught.  If you want
> the other two, you're going to have to find someone to trade with.  Sorry.
>


Well, the problem was, I think, that I was confused as to which one I
was seeking :blush: .
Anyways, I have great news to report! I have captured the second of
the three legendary dogs - one to go!
What I ended up doing was taking a lv 20ish Phanpy over to the grassy
area above my mom's home, using a Max Repel, and running around.
I know this is no guarantee to finding the dogs... but this is what
worked this time for me.

It is peculiar that, in firered, there isn't an ability or hold item
that makes it more likely one will encounter wild pokemon. There is,
of course, an attack.
What I discovered about the attack is that it overrides max repel.
That is, with Max Repel, you are "protected" against encounters with
pokemon of a lower level than the first pokemon in your team for N
steps. However, if your first pokemon knows sweet scent, and you use
it outside of battle, you are attacked by a wild pokemon, even if the
max repel is still in effect.

I had thought to use the combo to "flush out" high level pokemon, but
that didn't work out.

Anyways, after I transferred a variety of pokemon from the game to my
Pokemon Diamond (each one, of course, holding onto something
valuable), I restarted the game - this time, with Charmander.

Now I am working to raise a team to level 14 or 15 so I can take on
Brock. Alas, in the early part of the game, there is no water or grass
pokemon to capture to help beat the gym leader. At least once I hit lv
13 or so, Charmander will learn Metal Claw, Butterfree will have a
pretty strong special attack stat and Confusion, and my bird will have
a flying attack. Since I can't get or use Revives yet, that will have
to do in my effort to take him on.

Whee!

clueless

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Nov 26, 2009, 3:45:57 AM11/26/09
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Sweet scent??


"Larry W. Virden" <lvi...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> On Nov 18, 3:59 pm, "Chet Weaver" <zeroo...@aim.com> wrote:
>> I found this by accident on
>> Bulbapedia:http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Roaming_Pok%C3%A9mon
>> Scroll down to Generation III Pokemon. In reference to the three
>> Legendary

>> Beasts, it says, "These Pok�mon are only present in Pok�mon FireRed and


>> LeafGreen. The only one that will appear will be the one whose type
>> weakens

>> the type of the player's chosen starter Pok�mon." So it looks like the

Larry W. Virden

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Nov 30, 2009, 8:12:39 AM11/30/09
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On Nov 26, 3:45 am, "clueless" <cluel...@always.com> wrote:
>     Sweet scent??

Yes, sweet scent is the attack that causes an instance encounter with
a wild pokemon. Unfortunately, it also overrides max repel, leaving
you dealing with level 3 or 4 pokemon in the grass north of home
base.

So, I'm continuing to make some progress. Most of my team is now
around Lv 32. I have water, fire, bug, ground, grass, and something
else I can't remember on my team right now. I've beaten 4 gyms, as
well as the team rocket headquarters under the game corner. My latest
progress was to get down cycling road so that I will be able to move
along the bottom of the map. I think I only have 3 of the HMs (Cut,
Flash, Fly). I have gotten the various gizmos from the professor so
far (running shoes, itemfinder ... wasn't there something else?). I've
made my way through the haunted tower and gotten my cubone, thief'd a
thick club from another cubone, and raised it as a cubone until it
learned false swipe - it's about ready to be useful in catching
pokemon

Whee!

.

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Larry W. Virden

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Jan 14, 2010, 3:14:35 PM1/14/10
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Well, as of last week (during a snow storm we were driving through
from Chicago to central Ohio) I finally got the last of the 3
legendary dogs. I have only a small number of creatures that I need to
complete my Diamond pokedex. Alas, most of them are legendaries that
either are not available in games, or at least not the games I have
access to (Ho-oh, Celebi, Mew, etc.). There are 3 "normal" Pokemon I
still have been unsuccessful in getting due to various frustrating
events (my copy of ruby and sapphire are not readable by my Diamond
game - I suspect someone sold me a pirate version of then :-( ). I
haven't figured out how to see the various creatures so that I can
then try to trade for them.

Anything new about Heart and Soul? Perhaps a pre-sale freebie that's
worth investigating?

Chet Weaver

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"Larry W. Virden" <lvi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Anything new about Heart and Soul? Perhaps a pre-sale freebie that's
> worth investigating?

I think they're giving away Ho-Oh and Lugia figurines with pre-order.

-- Chet Weaver, who is going to have to update this sig now. Maybe later.

"What's the fun of being cool if you can't wear a sombrero?"
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Score: 22761

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