Windows 9 Pro - upgrade or full?
Don
Here is my dilemma:
I have both Vista Ultimate, and XP Pro, installed on my current system.
Therefore I should be just fine getting the Windows 7 Pro upgrade disc
right? I mean, I do not plan on running either Vista 64 bit Ultimate, or Win
XP Pro any longer once I do my new system build. And yes I do understand I
will have to do a clean install So the thought of buying the full version
and giving MS another 100 bucks for it just nauseates me!
However --- I do not want to have to go through the hassle, of installing
Vista Ultimate on a brand new clean hard drive, just to be able to install
Windows 7 Pro upgrade. I mean if I ever decide to re-install, I would have
to install Vista first and then Windows 7? To me, that is just a big pain in
the ass.
Ok so how about this , at least for the initial install - I will be
assembling my new system, complete with a brand new hard drive. Can I just
plug my old hard drive in to another sata slot, and then when I boot from
the Win 7 upgrade disc, will it recognize I have a Vista or XP install on
that other hard drive, and then allow me to proceed installing Windows 7 on
my new hard drive? I sure don't want to have to install it on the old hard
drive that has Vista and XP.
I sure miss the days you could just insert the disc as proof of having
qualifying media to install...
My mind is mush I'm telling ya!!
Would appreciate any feedback on this,
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Don
BernieFlyer
"Don" <burnette...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Gee Don, your way in front of the pack with Windows 9. The rest of us are
just getting Windows 7.
Seriously, good luck. I will watch the replies with interest.
Bernie
Don
"BernieFlyer" <berni...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Gee Don, your way in front of the pack with Windows 9. The rest of us are
> just getting Windows 7.
>
> Seriously, good luck. I will watch the replies with interest.
>
> Bernie
Crap, dang typo. I just can't see the keys any more like I used to could.
Going to have to spring for that new keyboard with illuminated keys...
Obviously I meant to type Windows 7 Pro...
:)
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Don
Dallas
I just got back from a time-traveler's convention next week.
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Dallas
Ian D
install the Win 7 Pro Upg on a different disk or partition. Boot
from the Win 7 DVD to install, then regardless of the previous
disk letters, Win 7 will be on C: when it runs.
Also, do a custom install so that you can choose the installation
drive. You can enter the product key on installation, but uncheck
the activation box. You will then have 30 days to activate, actually,
up to 120 days if you use the rearm procedure. This will allow you
lots of time to adjust the Win 7 installation without having to go
through the reactivation hassles if you want to reinstall.
SnakeEyes
ROFL : ))) You break me up!!
I recently had a moment of weakness and purchased one of those snazzy
Logitech illuminated keyboards (after reading that Katy P. has
one)....gotta keep up. Well, this little honey is wonderful. It's so
very flat and the keys are soft to the touch....and, they are silent.
No more tap tapping and keeping the cats awake.
If I had one complaint, it would be the F (function) keys, which,
although fully useful with FSX, are not marked well for the program.
They are programmable keys, with icons on them for email, home page,
CD eject, etc. Those icons are illuminated. However, the number of
the key (F1, F2, F3,) is not, so when the room lights are dim, I have
to know the email key will activate the thrust reversers. In
addition, there is a button which will give you three levels of
illumination or turn it off. This feature is great when using the
simulator in dim light or no light at all, which I occasionally do.
It cost me $80 (CDN) on sale from $100 but I imagine it's cheaper in
the States or online.
Sorry I got off-topic from your OP, Don, but I didn't know how to help
you anyway. You mentioned the illuminated keyboard and I got all
excited : )
Arthur
Acacia
Buy the upgrade version.
Clean instal on the new hard-drive *without* entering your upgrade key just
leave the key fields blank and continue.
The windows installer will happilly run.
Choose *not* to activate.
Allow all updates to complete.
Once updates are complete activate manually at which time you get to enter
your upgrade key.
You will satisfy the upgrade EULA because you own qualifying previous
versions that you won't continue to use.
Don
"Ian D" <tau...@nowhereatall.com> wrote in message
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> As long as it sees a valid XP or Vista on a drive, you can clean
> install the Win 7 Pro Upg on a different disk or partition. Boot
> from the Win 7 DVD to install, then regardless of the previous
> disk letters, Win 7 will be on C: when it runs.
>
> Also, do a custom install so that you can choose the installation
> drive. You can enter the product key on installation, but uncheck
> the activation box. You will then have 30 days to activate, actually,
> up to 120 days if you use the rearm procedure. This will allow you
> lots of time to adjust the Win 7 installation without having to go
> through the reactivation hassles if you want to reinstall.
>
Thanks Ian,
So I should be able to put the new hard drive in, put the old hard drive
containing XP or Vista in as well, boot from the Win7 Pro upgrade , and
install on the new clean hard drive with no issue.
If it will work like that then that will be ok. I can always leave the XP
install on the old secondary hard drive to have just in case I ever need to
clean install again I guess.
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Don
Don
"SnakeEyes" <agals...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Lol, that is fine I am still in the market for a new keyboard as well -
appreciate the info!
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Don
Don
Thanks for the info.
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Don
"Acacia" <g...@geemall.com> wrote in message
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Iain Smith
> I just got back from a time-traveler's convention next week.
>
ROFL! Lucky I didn't have a mouthful of coffee! :-))
Iain
Rugby, UK
mdavis
you're running Vista Pro 64 or Vista Home Premium 64, you can "upgrade"
to a like level but not from HP to Pro. If you buy Pro, you must clean
install from HP. Also, you can't go from 32 bit any level to 64 bit
without a clean install. I know you're running Ultimate, so no worries
there. Just a "heads up" to anyone like myself who pre-purchased Win7
Pro while running Vista HP.
Acacia
> You want to be a bit careful on "upgrading" vs. a "clean install." If
> you're running Vista Pro 64 or Vista Home Premium 64, you can
> "upgrade" to a like level but not from HP to Pro. If you buy Pro,
> you must clean install from HP.
An upgrade to Seven Professional from Vista Home Premium is possible.
You upgrade Vista HP to Seven HP then do an anytime upgrade to Professional.
Step one.
Make a copy of the Vista dvd that has the small text file called ei.cfg
deleted.
Without that file when you run setup the installer will ask you which
version to instal because the media contains all versions (32 bit media has
all 32 bit versions, 64bit media has all 64 bit versions). The ei.cfg tells
the imstaller which version your key is good for.
In this case choose premium but *don't* enter you key or activate.
Once the lengthy upgrade has completed run the anytime upgrade to
Professional using your pro key. The anytime upgrade will complete very
quickly.
Having said that a clean instal is recommended to avoid registry issues.
> Also, you can't go from 32 bit any
> level to 64 bit without a clean install. I know you're running
> Ultimate, so no worries there. Just a "heads up" to anyone like
> myself who pre-purchased Win7 Pro while running Vista HP.
I upgraded to 7 pro from Vista hp susing the above method.
Don
"mdavis" <mlda...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Thanks for the info, however I have no intentions of doing an upgrade
install over my existing Vista install - since I am putting new motherboard
and processor in, I am going to clean install on a new hard drive.
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Don
mdavis
not entered the key yet, but will try to go to Win7 Pro since I
purchased that disk. My in-place install of Win7 HP 64 over Vista HP 64
went smooth as glass. Only glitch I had was a hung reboot during the
installation. I left it for about 15 minutes to make sure nothing was
going to happen (no disk activity during that time), did a hard reboot
and the upgrade installation completed. No other issues.
scott s.
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> What you do is this.
> Buy the upgrade version.
> Clean instal on the new hard-drive *without* entering your upgrade
> key just leave the key fields blank and continue.
> The windows installer will happilly run.
> Choose *not* to activate.
> Allow all updates to complete.
> Once updates are complete activate manually at which time you get to
> enter your upgrade key.
> You will satisfy the upgrade EULA because you own qualifying
> previous versions that you won't continue to use.
>
>
Some users report this method doesn't always work. An option is to
proceed as above, but instead of manually activating do a re-install
from DVD (custom/clean) and then the upgrade key should work.
scott s.
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Dudley Henriques
I'll tell you the truth. When changing operating systems to a new
version I don't hesitate to go the full route and do a clean pristine
install. I know it's a bit cheaper to do the upgrade but when and if
problems arise after the installation it's great to know there was
nothing left on the hard drive from the old system clashing with
something on the new one.
I might be overly cautious on things like this but the clean operating
system is my way to go with these things.
DH
John Ward
JW
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Don B
"Dudley Henriques" <dhenr...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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As do I - anytime I install a new OS, or a new MB, both of which I will be
doing, I do a clean install on a freshly formatted partition.
My dilemma I was figting in my mind, was how easy this would be to
accomplish using an " upgrade disc", rather than a full version disc...
:)
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Don
Dudley Henriques
> "Dudley Henriques" <dhenriq...@rcn.com> wrote in message
Being on a Mac for all my on line stuff I'm getting less and less
familiar with Windows. I still have XP installed on the PC for FSX but
haven't faced the 7 issue yet. I'll be upgrading soon to a new Falcon
Northwest Talon that comes with a new install of 7 so won't be faced
with what you are dealing with here.
I think however, all things considered, why don't you simply go all
the way and get the full version disk, format, partition, and install
it. Can't do better than that :-)
DH
Don B
"Dudley Henriques" <dhenr...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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Yeah, very true and I would like the convenience.- but I tend to be on the
conservative side, not wanting to really spend the extra money, and owning
two previous qualifying OS's.
We'll see - decisions decisions...
Thanks,
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Don
Dudley Henriques
> "Dudley Henriques" <dhenriq...@rcn.com> wrote in message
Best of luck with the upgrade.
DH
scott s.
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> Yeah, very true and I would like the convenience.- but I tend to be
> on the conservative side, not wanting to really spend the extra
> money, and owning two previous qualifying OS's.
> We'll see - decisions decisions...
For me it was a no-brainer to pick up the 3-pack upgrade at costco
for $120. The bits on the disk are identical. Only thing that
differs is what the key will unlock (and after install you can
buy a feature upgrade, but looking at the features, I don't see the
value of Pro or Ultimate).
My wife has Vista Home 64 on her laptop, and I have FS9 and FSX
installed there just for compatability testing. I'm thinking of
trying an "in-place upgrade" just to see how it goes.
scott s.
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