Steep approach short field landing at St Barts
Ian D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGP8VsrH8ts&feature=related
Iain Smith
> Here's what can be done with a Twin Otter
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGP8VsrH8ts&feature=related
>
Wow, that's incredible! Not seen that before - thanks Ian.
Iain
Rugby, UK
WayPoint
> Here's what can be done with a Twin Otter
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGP8VsrH8ts&feature=related
>
>
Nice! :-)
Usual approach is to float for 2/3 of the strip - then drop into the
drink at the other end.
TOCA
"Ian D" <tau...@nowhereatall.com> skrev i meddelelsen
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> Here's what can be done with a Twin Otter
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGP8VsrH8ts&feature=related
>
Looks like what I do every time I fly GA in my sim ;o)
Tommy C, Denmark
TOCA
"WayPoint" <waypoint...@yahoo.com.au> skrev i meddelelsen
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ROTFL
Had completely forgotten it was that airport, untill now :o)
Tommy C, Denmark
ManhattanMan
> Here's what can be done with a Twin Otter
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGP8VsrH8ts&feature=related
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displayed....... :)) Geez, even hit the first turn off!!!
ManhattanMan
After a bit of deja vu, here's a '62 shot of landing a Grumman S2F on a
carrier, and notice the overhead throttles...
http://www.members.cox.net/drpics/S2F.jpg
WayPoint
Yeah - the pilot did one of those "come over darling" turns as he swung
onto the taxiway. (The co-pilot just about band his head on the pilots
shoulder) lol :-))
B
Danny
and FS10. Great place to exercise the sphincter muscle.
Danny
"Ian D" <tau...@nowhereatall.com> wrote in message
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ManhattanMan
> That airport is very well rendered in FlyTampa's Princess Juliana for
> FS9 and FS10. Great place to exercise the sphincter muscle.
>
Well thanks Danny, another $39 shot!! :)
http://www.members.cox.net/drpics/st%20bart.jpg
I had some addons for St Bart, Saba, & St Marteen in FS-9, but I don't
remember them being this hard to land. Geezz, I came over the hill
@140' 60kts, and I still couldn't make the turn off - of course some
reverse thrust like the Beav has would help. That guy was an artist!
FlyTampa really nailed the scenery, right down to having people on the
hill taking pictures...
I'm still getting used to the C-206 also, it's a floater, I had two go
arounds before finally getting it down - plus increased the brake
sensitivity to max after a good landing at Saba, but the brakes still
had me off the end of the runway. That's my story, and I'm sticking to
it........
Ian D
"ManhattanMan" <um...@binlaidon.com> wrote in message
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If you look around the Youtube St Barts videos, there's one
of a C-206 landing the other way, from the beach direction.
The plane skimmed the beach before landing, and there were
people nearby. Maybe the wind was from the other direction.
ManhattanMan
I almost opted for that choice, but was dead set to land on 10. Also
found out if you get too low too soon, the damn runway view disappears
behind the hill - that place is a definite challenge and I may have to
go fire up the old 3G P4 PC that's now in the wifes office, and see how
the FS-9 St Bart compares - IIRC it was freeware, nicely done but
nowhere near as nice as FlyTampa, and I know I didn't have this much
difficulty getting in there.
Ian D
You can't compare the short landing capabilities of a C-206 vs a
Twin Otter. The St Barts Ry 10 approach isn't very challenging
for the STOL capabilities of a Twin Otter. The definition of STOL
is the ability to come to a full stop within 1500' of clearing a 50'
obstacle. I think the normal operating spec for the Twin Otter,
is a full stop within 1000' of a 50' obstacle, and it can do it in much
less, depending on load.
Ian D
Eddie
wrote:
>Here's what can be done with a Twin Otter
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGP8VsrH8ts&feature=related
I don't know why everyone is so excited, including the comments on the
youtube link. This is not a big deal.
I used to fly as a flight attendant on an Otter (20 passenger) when I
worked for JetAir Hawaii back in the 70's (not much pay but a hell of
a lot of fun!) And when we had no passengers (which was frequently)
the pilot would do STOLs all the time. Folks, this is a STOL
aircraft! It's designed to do STOLs. Iirc the pilot could land in 50
feet with a good head wind (always blows in HI) and full flaps.
The scariest landings was at Kaanapali in Maui. Back then had sugar
cane on both sides of a narrow strip. Usually it was landing with
nose pointing NW on a runway heading NS. Scared the hell out of
passengers. Another scary time was taking off from a private strip in
Molokai. iirc it was called Murray ranch, or Murphy ranch, something
like that. Anywayz, the grass strip had barbed wire fence on either
side and we'd take off *downhill* for a couple hundred yards then it
would drop to about a 45 degree down slope. Wheeeeeee!
Eddie
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Ian D
"Eddie" <hawa...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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As an STOL aircraft, the Dash 7 has the Twin Otter beat. I've been
on a Dash 7 that went from stopped to airborne in the 200' width of
a cross runway. It could really flatten you into your seat back. The
Dash 7 is about 3 seats longer than the original Dash 8, but with twice
the power, 4 PT6's. Also, it can use reverse thrust on steep landing
approaches just like its big brother, the DH Buffalo.
Eddie
wrote:
>
>As an STOL aircraft, the Dash 7 has the Twin Otter beat. I've been
>on a Dash 7 that went from stopped to airborne in the 200' width of
>a cross runway. It could really flatten you into your seat back. The
>Dash 7 is about 3 seats longer than the original Dash 8, but with twice
>the power, 4 PT6's. Also, it can use reverse thrust on steep landing
>approaches just like its big brother, the DH Buffalo.
>
>
I don't think we ever did a takeoff using STOL power. Guess it was
too costly. I did once experience zero gravity when the pilot decided
to do a steep fast dive with me in the back. Since I wasn't strapped
in I floated like a feather. They thought it was funny. I didn't!
Eddie
donbutts
Ian D wrote:
> Here's what can be done with a Twin Otter
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGP8VsrH8ts&feature=related
>
wow great landing. Thanks for that Ian
check this also.. is this the same place?
http://www.st-barths.com/guidepgs/private_air.html
Butts
NZ
FS9
(will try it with a big iron :-/ )