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Strider

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May 27, 2004, 12:23:28 PM5/27/04
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If this isn't reason enough to stay indoors then you're clearly in need
of help.

This is the supposed story about how it died...

"The attached pictures are of a guy who works for the forest service in
Alaska.
He was out deer hunting. A large...large world record Griz charged him
from about 50 yards away. The guy unloaded a 7mm Mag Semi-auto into the
bear and it dropped a few feet from him. The thing was still alive so he
reloaded and capped it in the head. It was over one thousand six hundred
pounds, 12' 6" high at the shoulder standing up.

It's a world record. The bear had killed a couple of other people, not
including the one in the picture whose remains were found not far from
where the bear was killed, in what is believed to be the bears den.
Of course, the game department did not let him keep it. Think about it.
This thing on it's hind legs could walk up to the average single story
house and could look on the roof at eye level."

http://www.rozin-online.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/temp/tedbear1.jpg

http://www.rozin-online.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/temp/tedpaw.jpg

The other is of human remains and is not pretty. If you really need to
see it click my website link, it's on the forum entitled 'bears'.

--
www.stri.tk

"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will
fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."

Mike Kohary

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May 27, 2004, 12:40:37 PM5/27/04
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Strider wrote:
>
> The other is of human remains and is not pretty. If you really need to
> see it click my website link, it's on the forum entitled 'bears'.

Gruesome indeed. You should send that one in to rotten.com, if they haven't
posted it already.

Mike


Cannon Fodder

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May 27, 2004, 4:28:37 PM5/27/04
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The peeping Tom could have looked in a second story window.. That was
12' 6" at the SHOLDER... Factor in neck and head and you have 15' at
least... I'd want a Barrets .50 to hunt that thing with... (from
1000yds)...

Mike Kohary

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May 27, 2004, 4:48:57 PM5/27/04
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Strider wrote:
> Cannon Fodder proclaimed...

>
>> The peeping Tom could have looked in a second story window.. That was
>> 12' 6" at the SHOLDER... Factor in neck and head and you have 15' at
>> least... I'd want a Barrets .50 to hunt that thing with... (from
>> 1000yds)...
>
> It's a monster of myth. I want to know why it attacked people though
> (seriously) I thought bears were reclusive. Or is this story bollocks?

Mostly they are reclusive, but grizzlies have been known to attack people,
when hungry, encroached upon or threatened. It makes the news occasionally
around here (United States Pacific Northwest).

Mike


Strider

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May 27, 2004, 4:54:58 PM5/27/04
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Mike Kohary proclaimed...

> Mostly they are reclusive, but grizzlies have been known to attack people,
> when hungry, encroached upon or threatened. It makes the news occasionally
> around here (United States Pacific Northwest).

Well they obviously are known to attack people :)

Peter Lykkegaard

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May 27, 2004, 4:56:00 PM5/27/04
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Strider wrote:
> If this isn't reason enough to stay indoors then you're clearly in
> need of help.
>
Respect!

- Peter

Peter Lykkegaard

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May 27, 2004, 5:02:44 PM5/27/04
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Strider wrote:

> It's a monster of myth. I want to know why it attacked people though
> (seriously) I thought bears were reclusive. Or is this story bollocks?

I don't think so
Some background info for your pleasure
http://www.yellowstonegrizzly.com/pdfs/BearAttacks.pdf

- Peter


Strider

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May 27, 2004, 5:20:09 PM5/27/04
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Peter Lykkegaard proclaimed...

> I don't think so
> Some background info for your pleasure
> http://www.yellowstonegrizzly.com/pdfs/BearAttacks.pdf

Good stuff.

I think this pretty adequatly sums it up:

http://stri.no-ip.com/temp/bears.jpg

GeoTheCat

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May 27, 2004, 6:14:27 PM5/27/04
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Strider <email-...@signature.okies> wrote:

That story is pretty close to the truth. There were no bodies found
near the bear so someone has just made up that part. No one seems to
know where that gruesome photo came from. The actual gun used was a
338-caliber Winchester Magnum. One shot to the brain and 5 more to the
vitals. Scary thing is that it isn't a world record, not even the
largest in Alaska where it was killed!

NetLore site:

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl-grizzlybear.htm

Original news story:

http://www.adn.com/outdoors/v%2Dakcom/story/739717p%2D787512c.html

Erik

McGrandpa

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May 27, 2004, 6:50:07 PM5/27/04
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Strider wrote:
> Cannon Fodder proclaimed...
>
>> The peeping Tom could have looked in a second story window.. That was
>> 12' 6" at the SHOLDER... Factor in neck and head and you have 15' at
>> least... I'd want a Barrets .50 to hunt that thing with... (from
>> 1000yds)...
>
> It's a monster of myth. I want to know why it attacked people though
> (seriously) I thought bears were reclusive. Or is this story bollocks?

That was a grizzly, and while reclusive generally, are fiercely
territorial. They aren't exactly a predator, but are omniverous, large,
strong, and the Grizz is generally pissed off most of the time. The
Grizzly bear is second in size to the Polar bear. Normally.
McG.

McGrandpa

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May 27, 2004, 7:28:23 PM5/27/04
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Hey, thanks for posting that. I'd rather see the real info than a myth
any day :)
McG.


desert

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May 27, 2004, 7:57:11 PM5/27/04
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On Thu, 27 May 2004 16:23:28 GMT, Strider
<email-...@signature.okies> wrote:

dam shame the bear did`nt rip the fuck out of the yanky/yid shit in
the picture!

Neil Jones

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May 27, 2004, 8:31:00 PM5/27/04
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In article <qmjcb0t6hpnmp1viq...@4ax.com>, Cannon Fodder
<gonf...@airmail.net> wrote:

> least... I'd want a Barrets .50 to hunt that thing with... (from
> 1000yds)...

I think we should nuke it from orbit....

___
Neil
AKA HighVis

GeoTheCat

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May 27, 2004, 9:35:21 PM5/27/04
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desert <deser...@hotmail.com> wrote:


>
>dam shame the bear did`nt rip the fuck out of the yanky/yid shit in
>the picture!

Hmmm....I'm guessing you aren't a big Ted Nugent fan. :-)

Erik

Strider

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May 28, 2004, 2:29:49 AM5/28/04
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GeoTheCat proclaimed...

> That story is pretty close to the truth. There were no bodies found
> near the bear so someone has just made up that part. No one seems to
> know where that gruesome photo came from. The actual gun used was a
> 338-caliber Winchester Magnum. One shot to the brain and 5 more to the
> vitals. Scary thing is that it isn't a world record, not even the
> largest in Alaska where it was killed!

Shag me granny!

Cheers for that

Strider

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May 28, 2004, 2:30:29 AM5/28/04
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McGrandpa proclaimed...

> That was a grizzly, and while reclusive generally, are fiercely
> territorial. They aren't exactly a predator, but are omniverous, large,
> strong, and the Grizz is generally pissed off most of the time. The
> Grizzly bear is second in size to the Polar bear. Normally.

AHAHAHAH!!

My ploy to lure out all the bear supporters has worked.

Guards!

Strider

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May 28, 2004, 2:31:19 AM5/28/04
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Neil Jones proclaimed...

> I think we should nuke it from orbit....

Hehe

It just kept coming maaan!111

McGrandpa

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May 28, 2004, 6:23:36 AM5/28/04
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Supporter? Heh! Let one even look menacingly at me...*POW!*
Otherwise, I stay away from em :)
McG.

Strider

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May 28, 2004, 12:43:30 PM5/28/04
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McGrandpa proclaimed...

> Supporter? Heh! Let one even look menacingly at me...*POW!*
> Otherwise, I stay away from em :)

So you admit to being in the presence of a bear?!

Guards!

Where are those bastard guards?!?
Oh wait, we don't have any :/

Tim

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May 28, 2004, 12:49:49 PM5/28/04
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<GeoTheCat> wrote in message
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> desert <deser...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hmmm....I'm guessing you aren't a big Ted Nugent fan. :-)
>

I wouldn't mind seeing a bear posing with his Ted Nugent trophy. His guitar
playing alone drives animals to the brink.

Jethro[AGHL]

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May 28, 2004, 1:18:26 PM5/28/04
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I'm sure this was brought up before. I know I seen the pics.
Urban Legends confirms the bear but details are off.
http://www.snopes.com/photos/bearhunt.asp

--
Jethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Pinger
Reply Email: jeff (at) tibben (dot) ca

Strider

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May 28, 2004, 2:28:58 PM5/28/04
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Jethro[AGHL] proclaimed...

> I'm sure this was brought up before. I know I seen the pics.
> Urban Legends confirms the bear but details are off.
> http://www.snopes.com/photos/bearhunt.asp

Yeah, I think a bear story has been brought up before too. But not this
one. I may be wrong.

Civilian_Target

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May 28, 2004, 5:07:31 PM5/28/04
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The only scenario I can imagine being worse than getting killed by
that bear, would be if it was like that tiger in the Chinese zoo: A
little randy and decided it wanted some fun.

Civilian_Target

Skippy

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May 28, 2004, 5:50:52 PM5/28/04
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"Neil Jones" <ne...@designumbrella.com> wrote in message
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It's the only way to be sure!


McGrandpa

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May 28, 2004, 7:50:00 PM5/28/04
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Strider wrote:
> McGrandpa proclaimed...
>
>> Supporter? Heh! Let one even look menacingly at me...*POW!*
>> Otherwise, I stay away from em :)
>
> So you admit to being in the presence of a bear?!
>
> Guards!
>
> Where are those bastard guards?!?
> Oh wait, we don't have any :/

[ill mannered scowl overcomes him...low deep growl escapes broad furry
chest...then he just cracks up with mirth! ;)]

McGrandpa

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May 28, 2004, 8:27:20 PM5/28/04
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I think any of those bears is a safer bet for survival
than....Carcharodon carcharias. Especially in its own habitat.
Although they don't normally eat humans (neither do the bears) they've
attacked some (so have bears).

Either way, dead is dead. But JAWS feels to be an uglier way to die?

McG.


Cannon Fodder

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May 28, 2004, 9:10:52 PM5/28/04
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Ya don't meet many Great Whites on a leisurely stroll through the
woods... Bears are omnivorous and are like Cajuns... They'll eat
anything....

McGrandpa

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May 28, 2004, 10:11:45 PM5/28/04
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Cannon Fodder wrote:
> Ya don't meet many Great Whites on a leisurely stroll through the
> woods... Bears are omnivorous and are like Cajuns... They'll eat
> anything....

Which means that I would rather brave the woods knowing bear is around
than I would the ocean knowing there are GW's or Bull sharks near. See
The deep Blue Sea. Contributes to the mindless terror!
McG.

Strider

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May 29, 2004, 4:40:29 AM5/29/04
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Cannon Fodder proclaimed...

> Ya don't meet many Great Whites on a leisurely stroll through the
> woods... Bears are omnivorous and are like Cajuns... They'll eat
> anything....

Including each other :)

Spyder Barques

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May 29, 2004, 9:52:24 AM5/29/04
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"McGrandpa" <McGran...@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Cannon Fodder wrote:
> > Ya don't meet many Great Whites on a leisurely stroll through the
> > woods... Bears are omnivorous and are like Cajuns... They'll eat
> > anything....
>
> Which means that I would rather brave the woods knowing bear is around
> than I would the ocean knowing there are GW's or Bull sharks near. See
> The deep Blue Sea. Contributes to the mindless terror!
> McG.

Then never, ever go to the beach!
We spent last weekend in Panama City, FL. Sunday morning I took my little
girl to the beach and I kept a watch with Polarized glasses while she played
in the water. When I saw a four to five foot shark swimming past (didn't get
a real good look at it- probably a blacktip or sandbar shark). I told her to
get out of the water. It cruised on by and after it left we kept playing.
They're there, people just don't see them and they hardly ever bother
anyone. It's best not to swim very early or very late, because this is when
they cruise the beaches looking for food. Remember Chrissie? :-)
A couple of years ago my wife and I were standing on the state park pier in
Gulf Shores, AL watching a 10+ foot hammerhead swim around the pilings while
hundreds of people swam less than a hundred yards away. They never knew, and
the shark never bothered them.

--
Thad


McGrandpa

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May 29, 2004, 11:00:47 AM5/29/04
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Yeah, I do know about sharks. I have a healthy respect for them, and
also a healthy fear which I think perfectly acceptable since I'd be
entering the animals natural habitat and physical attributes place me
well within the food chain.
As it's said, most shark attacks aren't really attacks, but
investigative bites. We usually have difficulty withstanding a sharks
means of investigating :) I spent two years on a ship, 18 months of
that was at sea. I learned a lot about the ocean and its denizens then.
Probably more than I know about bears to tell the truth!
I know also the Bull shark is far more dangerous to humanity than the
Great White is.
McG.


Ben Cottrell

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May 29, 2004, 6:45:08 PM5/29/04
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Strider wrote:

>>Ya don't meet many Great Whites on a leisurely stroll through the
>>woods... Bears are omnivorous and are like Cajuns... They'll eat
>>anything....
>
> Including each other :)

Nah, bears wouldn't eat each other ;)


--
Ben Cottrell AKA Bench


"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as
kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills
and listening to repetitive electronic music." - Kristian Wilson,
Nintendo, Inc, 1989

Strider

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May 29, 2004, 6:47:56 PM5/29/04
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Ben Cottrell proclaimed...

> Nah, bears wouldn't eat each other ;)

Yeah. Americans are worse than bears!

Cannon Fodder

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May 29, 2004, 7:02:36 PM5/29/04
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They will if they're queer....

Cannon Fodder

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May 29, 2004, 7:03:25 PM5/29/04
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HeHe... Donner Pass.....

Spyder Barques

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May 31, 2004, 9:37:08 PM5/31/04
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"McGrandpa" <McGran...@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
news:zA1uc.28516$lY2....@fe1.texas.rr.com...

>
> Yeah, I do know about sharks. I have a healthy respect for them, and
> also a healthy fear which I think perfectly acceptable since I'd be
> entering the animals natural habitat and physical attributes place me
> well within the food chain.

That attitude is not only acceptable, but well-balanced and prudent IMHO.

> As it's said, most shark attacks aren't really attacks, but
> investigative bites. We usually have difficulty withstanding a sharks
> means of investigating :) I spent two years on a ship, 18 months of
> that was at sea. I learned a lot about the ocean and its denizens then.
> Probably more than I know about bears to tell the truth!

I've never seen a wild bear but I've seen a lot of sharks!

> I know also the Bull shark is far more dangerous to humanity than the
> Great White is.

Absolutely. They are very numerous, freshwater tolerant, and frequent
shallow water favored by bathers. Bull sharks worry me. I doubt I'll *ever*
see a Great White.


--
Thad


Spyder Barques

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May 31, 2004, 9:42:40 PM5/31/04
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"Cannon Fodder" <gonf...@airmail.net> wrote in message
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> HeHe... Donner Pass.....

The Donner Party was a leg-eatin' good time!
There must have been some Cajuns present.

--
Thad
wondering if they 'pinched the tails and sucked the heads.'


Cannon Fodder

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May 31, 2004, 11:21:07 PM5/31/04
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I've already posted my shark encounters... I like my current place in
the food chain... Going into the Gulf forfeits that place...

Strider

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Jun 1, 2004, 2:25:26 AM6/1/04
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Cannon Fodder proclaimed...

> I've already posted my shark encounters... I like my current place in
> the food chain... Going into the Gulf forfeits that place...

Well there is a certain flattery in the fact if you know you must be
chased, killed and eaten then it's because something thinks you tasty
enough to eat ;p

McGrandpa

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Jun 1, 2004, 4:19:59 AM6/1/04
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I've seen a few. All from the safety of the deck of a CG cutter :)
But those glimpses are as close as I ever want to come to those animals.
Bull sharks, different story. I've seen a few of those too. Landed
one on the beach while I was fishing, was about 4' long. Back then we
called them shovel nose. Don't ever think they don't get big. I saw
one brought in at Texas City Dike that was 15' long. Mouth was over 2'
wide. If one doesn't think that impressive, then watch as it snaps its
jaws at you....and I thought it was dead already...hell it was laying on
the ground.
McG.


McGrandpa

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Jun 1, 2004, 4:21:03 AM6/1/04
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Yup, ya sure got that right :)
McG.

McGrandpa

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Jun 1, 2004, 4:22:14 AM6/1/04
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Er...the order of occurance is usually chased, eaten and killed :o\
McG.

Strider

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Jun 1, 2004, 11:46:04 AM6/1/04
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McGrandpa proclaimed...

> Er...the order of occurance is usually chased, eaten and killed :o\
> McG.

Well that all depends on how hungry the bear is :)

Peter Lykkegaard

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Jun 1, 2004, 12:41:28 PM6/1/04
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"Strider" wrote

> McGrandpa proclaimed...
>
> > Er...the order of occurance is usually chased, eaten and killed :o\
>
> Well that all depends on how hungry the bear is :)
>
Hmm, If not very hungry that could be chased, eaten, chased, eaten,
chased...?

But the normal would be chased and killed while eaten

- Peter


Strider

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Jun 1, 2004, 12:47:57 PM6/1/04
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Peter Lykkegaard proclaimed...

> Hmm, If not very hungry that could be chased, eaten, chased, eaten,
> chased...?
>
> But the normal would be chased and killed while eaten

Well I'm thinking if he's not so hungry he might kill you then stash you
to have later with crisps (chips) and salsa :)

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